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All right . Well , first , welcome and

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thank you for attending the panel today .

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Really appreciate it . Uh It's great to

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see everybody . I can see a lot of

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networking going on , which is already

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fantastic and we'll make sure that that

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continues throughout the day . But

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before we move on , I'd like to take a

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moment to welcome the president of the

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United States Army Warrant Officer

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Association CW five , Mike Dye . The

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War Roster Association has been a

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steadfast advocate for our cohort and

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we are fortunate to have their

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continued support . Please join me in

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welcoming , welcoming Mike to the stage .

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Thanks Erin . Good morning , everyone .

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It's a pleasure to be here . Thank you .

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First of all , to uh a USA our partner

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for allowing us to participate uh in

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this breakfast . We've been having

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these Warrant Officer breakfast in wop

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Ds now for the last several years . And

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I think we're seeing a continuing

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growing audience . Uh First of all , I ,

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I can ask , where are the company grade

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warrant officers ? If you're a company

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grade warrant officer , please raise

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your hand . All right , everybody look

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around and see that they are . I like

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to say this So these events

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are , are , are awesome for us as

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senior leaders , right ? We go back to

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our units , you know , we're , we're

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participating , we're hearing from our ,

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our general officers , our senior

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armory leaders , right ? But the folks

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that are gonna be leading us in the

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next fight and down the road in the

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years to come are these young warrant

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officers , right ? So we need to do

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everything we can to make sure that we

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bring them , we share the information

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that's put out here and prepare them

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for what they're gonna be facing when

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we all decide to take the uniform off .

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All right , cool . All right . So , um ,

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again , as part of a pleasure being

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here as the president of Warrant

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Officer Association . If you're

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familiar with us , we're a member of

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the mil larger military coalition , uh ,

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35 organizations , 5.5 million

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people . Um , so soldiers , veterans

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from all the military , our president

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of the T MC Jack Dui is here . So USA W

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A is just one of the associations , um ,

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that advocate for the military and the

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association advocates on behalf of

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specifically of the warrant officers .

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And if you haven't seen yet for the

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first time ever , we actually have a

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kiosk out in the parking area up in ,

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in , uh , hall B so please stop by

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there , um , and see us up there as

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well . So with that , um , I'd like to

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introduce our next guest speaker ,

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Chief one officer five , Doug England

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began his military service in 1986 and

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became a uh one H helicopter repairer

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and crew chief . He served with

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distinction in Desert Storm ,

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transitioned to the Colorado National

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Guard and later returned to active duty ,

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graduating from the warrant officer

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basic course and flight school . 75

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England's career highlights include

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serving with the 1/60 Special

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Operations Aviation Regiment Airborne

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and as a senior warrant officer advisor

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to the Secretary of the Army for talent

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management . Over his career , he

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logged more than 7000 flight hours and

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34 combat tours , executing over 2500

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missions in support of the global war

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on terrorism . Since retiring CD five ,

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England has pursued public service and

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now works for Bell Textron as a

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regional representative at Fort

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Campbell . He holds a bachelor's degree

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in aviation management and is a highly

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decorated , including two silver stars

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and three distinguished flying cross

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medals . City Five England and his wife

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Christina have been married for 33

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years and are proud parents and

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grandparents . At this time , I'd like

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to introduce Doug England .

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Well , uh , good morning and uh let's

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get motivated . We're gonna talk about

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war officer stuff . They , um , the ,

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the biggest thing is , you know , I ,

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even though I've been retired four

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years , I still bleed , I still bleed

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brown , right ? Is that , is that the

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right color for anyways ? It's still

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there . But they , uh , you know , it's ,

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it's , it's good to have pride . It's

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good to have and know the legacy . It's

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good to know where we came from and

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where we're at today and that's what

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we're going to talk about . And so

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that's where I'm excited to be . Uh

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Thanks to Phyllis Wilson and paving the

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path being on the , the board of

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directors for a USA , there's a warrant

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officer that sits on the executive

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board of a USA to help kind of shape

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where things go for a USA . And our

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first in person meeting is this

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December . I do have the honor of being

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on uh the chief staff of the Army's

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retiree council to bring up what

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warrant officer issues and challenges

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for retention , uh retirement , those

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things . So I'll be working in unison

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with the three leaders up here uh to

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help express that to our senior

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leadership . But I do want to , uh ,

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before we get into uh the panel , I

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wanna emphasize the external , the

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outside view looking into the warrant

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officer cohort . It's amazing , the

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technical expertise that is viewed from

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industry that's viewed from the public

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and how uh how valuable the warrant

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officer profession is and how well

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sought after the warrant officers are

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for industry . You have no idea how

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marketable you are because you are

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experts within experts and you are a

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profession within a profession of , of

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soldiers . So you should put uh pat

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yourself on the back , but they , uh

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you know , with the uh uh with the

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initiatives of chief staff of the army

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starting with transformation .

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Transformation means to in this case

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for the uh for the discussion now is

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policy , I cannot express the and what

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we've witnessed the sensitivity of

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compo one changes , compo two changes ,

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how they cross pollinate when it comes

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to federal recognition , all that . So

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keep that in mind that it is a very

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difficult task to solve . You have

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policy and you have law and these three

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well esteemed leaders up here are gonna

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answer a lot of those questions . But

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before we get into it , I do want to um

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uh introduce , we do have the first

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Chief Warrant Officer of the , of the

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army , which is a feat in itself to get

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to get a position on with the chief of

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staff of the army , the se uh the uh uh

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sergeant major of the army to start

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growing in that position . So , Aaron

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Anderson , congratulations being the

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first Chief Warrant Officer of the Army .

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And it's ,

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it is not without the hard work of

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Yolanda Dixon Carter . If she was here

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today , I'd give her a big hug for the ,

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the what she paved and she had the

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vision and uh to have you as first

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selected and it was a selected , a very ,

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very hard selection almost down to an

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assessment of , of who was uh selected

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for that position . So ,

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congratulations . So , moving on down ,

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we , the difficult task right now that

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Brian , seriously , you and I have

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worked in the uh the Pentagon before

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being the uh command Chief Foreign

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Officer of the National Guard . I will

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mention that uh Brian , he's the the

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command Chief War officer or National

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Guard , but he has 54 territories and

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states that have 54 good ideas and

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competing requirements . So

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congratulations to , to being the uh

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command chief officer of the uh for the

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National Guard . And then we also have

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LaShawn White CW five . White is the

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command Chief war officer for , for the

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Reserves also has challenges of , of

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citizen soldiers and you're getting

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into that , that , uh , uh , really

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only 10% are really activated . What do

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you do , uh , for those warrant

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officers that have a profession of a

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different field , then they come into

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the Reserves and that now there may be

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a signal warrant or they're an aviator

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or something that's completely

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different for it . The challenges they

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have from Compo two and Compo three is

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something that is very hard to

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understand if you're a compo one . So

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without further ado , I'd like to open

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it up for panels and , uh , and , uh ,

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we're gonna go straight into , uh , to

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questions or we're gonna go down to

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opening statements . Yeah , we'll ,

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we'll go to opening statements . Can

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everybody hear me ? Ok . Ok . All right .

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That's great . Well , first and

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foremost , thank everybody for being

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here today . Uh It's so great to see

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this room full and we can talk about

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warrant officer issues . So this is

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gonna be fantastic . Uh , in the course

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of coming into the job , I've gone out

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and done a lot of leader engagements

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and I always find it's better when

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there's dialogue and discussion . So ,

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uh the three of us up here are gonna

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put forth a few ideas as we get into

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this and then we're gonna pretty

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quickly open it up for dialogue and

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discussion because as much as maybe you

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wanna hear what we wanna talk about ,

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I'm also interested to hear what you

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wanna talk about and what's on your

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mind . Um So the first thing I would

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tell you is that um as warrant officers ,

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uh we are definitely the , the future

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is looking bright for the cohort . Uh

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General Braga mentioned a few

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initiatives that we had going on . So

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talking about things that we're doing

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in UAs and counter UAs things that you

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so is doing in the robotics field . Um

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There's a lot of emerging both for us

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and there's a lot of appetite . If you

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look at the FD us that have come across

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that we , as we've developed the multi

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domain task forces , the theater fires

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elements , the composite watercraft

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organizations , a lot of those are

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increases in warrant of officer

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authorization . So you can see that the

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demands out there . Um And I , and I

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think that's pretty important . Um

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Other things that we have going on .

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Well as Mr England mentioned , uh we

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created the warrant officer of the army

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position and that's , you know , and I

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would definitely give uh my thanks and

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gratitude to Miss Dixon Carter and it's

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too bad . She couldn't be here today ,

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but she put a lot of work into that .

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Um And , and just appreciate her

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efforts . We'll continue to mature the

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position as we move forward . Uh It'll

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be a iter of process . Um You know ,

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there's been 17 sergeants major of the

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army and everyone builds on the , the

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previous and so we'll continue to work

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down that path as well . Um And it'll

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be good , so , really appreciate for

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that . Uh I think as the chief sees the

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position , obviously , we're gonna use

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the position to take care of the cohort ,

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but also looking at army problems and

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then solving army problems through a

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warrant officer lens . So we have a

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little bit different lens than uh maybe

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they've seen before uh up in the front

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office and we'll continue to pursue

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that pathway and try to generate good

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options for the army , senior leaders .

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So I think that'll be good uh other

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areas uh that we continue to move on

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our CW five management . So on the

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compo one side of the house , I think

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we uh are in a pretty good spot with

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taking our CW fives out of the AM two

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process and having them managed by Bob ,

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I would say 70% of the cohort is

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already doing that or is moving that

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direction . So I think that's a good

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thing . I would say we still have a

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little bit of a challenge managing our

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0 11 Alpha uh authorizations on the ,

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on the uh compo one side . And so more

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work will be done there . I think uh

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we'll talk about that as we go into the

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next panel . So I'm not going to dwell

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on that , but more work to be done

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there . Um So ,

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you know , looking at things that we're

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doing across the army uh in terms of

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the chief's priorities . So if you're

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not tracking the priorities , so war

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fighting , delivering combat ready

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formations , continuous transformation

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and then stored in profession . So

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those are kind of the bins and the

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focus areas for the army and underneath

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each of those bins , there's a , a

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warrant officer role in all of that as

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integrators . So if you look at the

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transformation and contact brigades or

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the tick brigades that have been

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established . So uh third 10th mountain ,

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uh second to the 25th and then second

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Brigade of the 101st , those are tick

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brigades . Uh There's a lot going on

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there . So things in the UAs counter

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UAs world where we're looking at

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transformation , doing things

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differently . Um Looking , looking at

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integrating ew into that piece . And if

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you're not tracking second , the 101st

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has developed a um multifunctional

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reconnaissance company to kind of bind

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all those things and bring them

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together and it's really powerful . Uh

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We learned a lot of lessons when they

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did their latest J RT C rotation . Uh A

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lot going on there and warn officers

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are all part of that . So uh pretty

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powerful . Um Other areas that I've

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seen recently looking at things that

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we're doing in the in the area of

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advanced manufacturing . If you're not

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tracking , that's really 3d 3d printing ,

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printing . Um But there's additive and

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subtractive manufacturing . Uh warrant

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officers playing a key role there , uh

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both at the tactical edge and then

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looking at what we can do uh in a

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garrison environment . So that's really

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good . Um Some of the areas uh that ,

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that we've worked on uh in the past

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that still need a little bit of

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attention . I would tell you from about

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2016 to 2019 , we were assessing on the

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compo one side for a different four

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structure . Um We were very much

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tailored to coin . We probably uh

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shorted ourselves a little bit . Uh

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We've done a lot uh moving forward to

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get after that problem and I'd like to

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recognize uh C W-4 camp Fry over there

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with the warrant officer recruiting

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company . Over the last for years ,

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we've made our mission minus a handful

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every year and this year we made 100%

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admission uh minus 180 alpha and 351

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Yankee . And that's a very unique M Os .

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Uh and , and the 180 Alphas are kind of

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internally uh recruited . So , uh hats

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off and if we could give a round of

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applause to Chief Fry and the team ,

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so , job really well done . I know that

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you'll have an opportunity to speak uh

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in a little while here and look forward

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to hearing what you have to say . I

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think it's gonna be great , but um ,

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it's important that we maintain those

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sessions numbers to keep the cohort

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healthy . So um really good there . Uh

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The other thing , if you listen to the

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secretary's speech carefully yesterday ,

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she talked about uh stability . And one

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of the things that I hear every time

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that I go out is stability and quality

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of life are more important than

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monetary compensation when it comes to

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retaining warrant officers . So

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specifically talking to our W threes

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and W fours and so we are working with

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G one DM PM to really get after uh some

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tangible things that we can do to

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provide that stability . Uh You know ,

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yesterday it was mentioned , maybe

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going from a three year movement cycle

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to a five year movement cycle , maybe

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there's some of that uh working with

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Chief Lawrence and the Talent

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Innovation Division . I think there's

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some other options on the table there .

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And so we'll continue to pursue those

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options . Um But as for the cohort ,

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what I just asked from you is continue

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to be innovative , continue to be

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visionary , continue to uh focus on

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your area . I would say your point of

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view and your voice matters for warrant

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officers . If we want to sit at the

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table , we always have to be present .

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And so do that be present . Um Provide

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those options , provide that menu of

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options to leadership and continue to

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drive us down the road of

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transformation . So uh really important

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now before we go to these two gentlemen ,

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to my right and left , as General Braga

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mentioned as well , you know , we're up

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here as all three compos as , as a

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joint army and that's how we're gonna

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fight . We're never gonna fight again

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as just compo one or , or compo two or

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compo three . Uh So it was really

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important for me to have these

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gentlemen up here with me so we can

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cover all the bases on all three

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compost . And I look forward to the

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dialogue and discussion . I think in

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the interest of time , I'll kind of cap

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it there . And uh what I'd like to do

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is turn it over to CW five Brian .

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Seriously from Army National Guard .

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Brian . Thank you , Aaron . Hey , good

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morning , everybody . I'm grateful to

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be here . Hey , Doug , the advantage of

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having 54 different armies as I get 54

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different ideas and some of those ideas

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are really , really good . Um One of

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those ideas I'll focus on just real

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quick is the warrant officer candidate

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session program . So when we initiated

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that a few years ago when some of the

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states down in region three like Chief

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Jolly . Uh let's see , going way back

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Mississippi prior to you Doug or Chief

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Dukes , Tommy Smith . So ,

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you know , when I first saw that thing ,

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I didn't know what to think about it

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for sure . Um But hey , let , let me

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tell you what our numbers are this year .

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So the U or the National Guard's

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mission this year was 840 to assess 840

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warrant officers . The Army National

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Guard this year assessed 960 warrant

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officers . And that doesn't count the

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20 additional warrant officers that the

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54 slow rolled and rolled into this

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year . Um , but anyway , but still good

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job 960 we've never got that in the

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Army National Guard . Um , so I'm super

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happy about that and I attribute that

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to that Warrant Officer Candice session

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program . It seems like the

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organizations that are implementing

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that program , uh , tend to assess a

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third , more warrant officers a year

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than those that don't . Um , and what

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that does is it gets people ready to

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improve their GT scores . It helps them

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put their packets together . So , what

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we found in the past is we'd have

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soldiers going to their drill weekend

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and they would tell their training NCO

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or their readiness NCO . Hey , I want

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to become a warrant officer and these

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are M day soldiers , right ? And this

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training NCO ranks . His NCO says , hey ,

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get to me during the week , right ? And

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then , and then we'll help you put your

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packet . Soldier goes home and nothing

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happens that month and then the next

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month they come back . And so what we

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decided to do is come up with a program

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where we , when we identified somebody

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that wanted to be a warrant officer ,

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we could split them out , send them to

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that organization and have them start

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getting ready . And what we do is we

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take our w ones that have just got done

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with warrant officer can at school who

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haven't went to WO BC . And we have

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those individuals mentor those new

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warrant officers . So it doesn't cost

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us really anything , but it helps us

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cross the finish line to get those

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warrant officers assessed . Anyway .

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Thank you 54 . Good job . Great

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accession . Um Again , Warrant Officer ,

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Warrant Officer end strength continues

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to grow across all three compos .

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Although we made that headwind in compo

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two again , we grew another as soon as

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Fy or as soon as September 1st rolled

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around , we increased in end strength

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another 107 warrant officers and the

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next fy will assess another 56 . So

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we're starting to flat out a little bit .

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Um but we gotta be somewhere around

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1000 of sessions a year to close that

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gap and get to 100% . And it's just not ,

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it's all three compos , you know , 200

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plus warrant officers that we've been

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growing a year since um since 2000 . So ,

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warrant officer , especially technical

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and strength continues to grow and in

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the foreseeable future it will . So we

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need to keep our foot on the gas pedal .

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Um The Army National Guard has a new

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director , Lieutenant General John

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Stubbs . Um He's full of energy . Um

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All of his lines of effort are nested

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with that of um the chief of staff of

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the army . Uh those of war fighting ,

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delivering combat ready formations ,

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transformation in combat and profession

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of the arms . And what General Stubbs

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says , he adds to all those ready for

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combat , ready for combat , ready for

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combat and ready for combat . So , you

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know , as we progress , I'm excited to

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have a new director . He's full of

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energy . Um I'm grateful to have um

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Aaron with us and also LaShawn , you

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know , we talk regular , we , we're ,

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we're advocating for you . We're not

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disconnected at all . So I want to know

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that we're here for all of your issues .

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Just not one compliment . Thanks .

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That's all I have . Hi , good morning .

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Can you hear me ? So , first thing I

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wanna start off by saying is , is , is

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like Brian said , we're connected ,

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we're always engaged , we're always

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talking to each other and we're always

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trying to find out those ideas because

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we can't do it alone . And we've

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learned that over the years in Compo

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three , we have our own challenges ,

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but we also have some surprises and

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some great things that have come about .

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So we have a new leadership , new CS M ,

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we have a new commander and our

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commander is just as fiery as the

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National Guards , new Commander . So uh

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there are things that they have in

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common . Uh He has his four lines of

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effort which are building combat ready

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formations , mobilize and deploy . You

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don't really hear that a lot from ,

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from , from the compo three side of the

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house that , that is a primary

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objective to mobilize and deploy , but

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also to adapt and transform and to take

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care of our families . That is one of

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his key initiative to take care of our

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families . So when I align my four

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objectives , I put them out there as my

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four bs one is to be visible because as

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warrant officers , we have to learn if

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we want to grow new warrant officers ,

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we have to be visible and we find that

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as a challenge , sometimes , sometimes

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we're so integrated in our work that we ,

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we don't take the time to step out and

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to train those new people that could

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come behind us when we're talking about

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our reserve formations , you know ,

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it's hard to get in front of everybody

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at one time . We're talking drill

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weekends . When you have just a little

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bit of time , you have two days to make

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things happen . You know ,

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unfortunately , for a lot of us as

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senior positions . You don't have

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enough time to get out there and talk

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to every warrant or every soldier and

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pull them in and say , hey , I need you

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to do this because the boss wants

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something too time is valuable . But

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you have to find that way to be visible .

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Not only just be visible , you gotta be

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engaged because if you're not being

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engaged and you're not taking that seat

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at the table , someone's gonna take it

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from you is happening every day . We

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see it all the time and it's not just

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doing drill weekend for , for compo

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three or Compo two . It's getting on

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those meetings that you don't wanna get

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on those Wednesday night meetings ,

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those Thursday night meetings ,

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sometimes you have to get engaged in a

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way that's gonna take time off your

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plate . You may have to put in a 1380

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for points . You may get paid , you may

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get reimbursed and sometimes you won't .

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But when you put on this rank and you

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put on that position of authority ,

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whether it's the senior supply warrant

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or the senior maintenance warrant ,

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you're putting in a position of

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authority where people are looking up

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to you . People are really looking up

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to you and they're counting on

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everything that you do . Next is the b

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family oriented . We can't do this

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without our families doesn't matter

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what compo you are . If your family

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doesn't support you , you can't do this

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efficiently or effectively you will not

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have the desire to do it . And

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sometimes you just wanna just tap out ,

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make sure that your family is behind

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every idea and they are within every

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idea . Don't make this be about you and

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your supervisor's decision . Family

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first . It's one of general hardest

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priorities . It's one of my priorities ,

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family first . And the last thing I ask

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is them to be ready because if you're

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not ready , we fail .

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If you as an individual have not taken

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the time to be ready , whether it's

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fitness , whether it's mental health ,

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whether it's just being able to take

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some time to yourself , watch the

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football game or just being with

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friends , something that just picks

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your day of and brings life back to you .

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If you're not ready , the formation

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isn't ready . So across the armed

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reserve , we're seeing some growth .

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We're right now at 79% . What I warrant

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officer population , it's not where we

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wanna be . But , you know , we're at

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3575 as of yesterday and that

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fluctuates 5 to 10 each day . We wanna

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make sure that the numbers keep going

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in whatever we can keep in . We know

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we're gonna have people retire . We

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know we're gonna have people say , hey ,

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it's time to do something else in life

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and there's nothing wrong with that .

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But we want . But what we really want

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to do is make sure that our middle

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management that we're still growing ,

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our middle management . And that's what

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some of the , one of the problems we're

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not seeing , you know , how do we keep

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our twos and our W threes engaged

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enough to make W-4 and W five . So

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we've looked at new initiatives across

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the Armed Reserve and across the other

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compos as well that we hope that will

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engage people and help them out and

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wanna inspire them to continue service .

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Um Our five and E five and five

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initiative , it has done well in

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building our NCO population from our E

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fives and E Sixes . We set around 90%

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in those categories . Unfortunately ,

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we also said that 61% in our E Sevens .

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We said at 70% in our E nines .

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Now , we're at 91% in our E eight . So

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hopefully we'll spread it out and we

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can bring some of those E fives and

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sixes along the way . So the same pool

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that we're recruiting from as warrant

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officers , our senior NC Os are

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recruiting from as well . So I don't

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see that as a challenge as long as we

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continue to grow and our recruiting

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efforts continue . But other than that ,

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it's a great army . It's a great army

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day and I'm proud to serve with you .

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Thank you .

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OK . So we're gonna open it up uh to

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some questions and uh kind of keep it

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at a policy level . But if it's , if

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it's a branch issue , try to keep it at

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a at a branch issue , we're looking at

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a holistic , you know , uh army big

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picture look . So if there's like some

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technical things that like you want to

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bring up , maybe uh we keep those uh

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sidebar . But what are your questions

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right now and calling on ? So uh in

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really in no order , uh do we have

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questions out there ? You want to get

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some answers to force structure on the

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horizon ? What does transformation and

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contact mean ? What does that mean for

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the warrant officer cohort ? What does

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it mean for the uh the ranks ? Any

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questions of the heart ? Hi

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CW five , Deanna Hughes , CCWO for um

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army medical command . So as you know ,

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I've started two CCWO positions , we

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have several other uh individuals in

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the audience who have also started CCWO

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positions and are sitting in that

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position when I was writing the white

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paper for this last position . It was

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interesting to me to see how really

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compo two led the way with that with

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all of their state CCW OS and then

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Compo three really embraced the CCW OS

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and then Compo one with the exception

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of aviation and Special Forces was a

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little bit slow and medical ,

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especially slow as we just got ours in

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the last couple of years . But what I

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found is as we fill more of these

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positions and we take more of these

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leadership roles and we sit at the

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table we lean in , where is the policy

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behind uh that behind what we're

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doing to indicate where our authority

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lies , our responsibilities lie . And

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just even down to the protocol , is

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that something the three of you are

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working together to build that um

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policy now to show , what does that

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mean with that mil per message that

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we're part of the command team and how

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will that be codified ? Well , Miss

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Hughes , I'll go ahead and take the

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first swing at this and then open it up .

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But I think it continues to be an

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editor of process . So we had the

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Miller message which laid out the

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definitions and responsibilities for

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CCWO . And then so a um we're working

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right now for the appropriate

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regulations to make sure those are

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updated . Um I , in terms of the

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protocol piece of this , I think that

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will continue to develop , I would say

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uh as I look at things , I don't think

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that there's gonna be in the near term ,

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a mandate to have CCW OS in the

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formation . So I can tell you like at

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first core and seven ID , just within

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the last six months , they've

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established CCWO positions . So I think

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that momentum is gonna continue and

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part of it is those individuals getting

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in place and then showing good value

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and good return on investment for being

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in those positions , just frankly being

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present . Uh and showing as warrant

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officers , we do have that different

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lens and we come to you with a menu of

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different options . So I think part of

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that is on us as a cohort as well to

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show value uh in the positions that we

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do have . And we'll continue to mature

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that as we move down the road . And

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with that , I'd , I'd open it up to ,

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to Brian and LaShawn . Go ahead . So

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here's kind of what I'd say because II ,

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I have 54 different armies to look at .

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right ? And here's what's gonna be

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really important for you and all those

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new CCW OS , if you go in and you do a

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really , really good job , then your

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commanding general is gonna elevate you

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to the level that you need to be at .

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If you don't do such a good job , then

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the person that has to replace you has

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a lot of making up to do . So it is key

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when you go in , you go in and , and ,

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and you're running fast and hitting

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hard . I don't worry about the protocol

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piece because the army has a protocol

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regulation that they never follow .

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Right . So , so , so that I don't worry

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about it , like , you know , Aaron and

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I were sitting four rows back today ,

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right ? Or yesterday or five or even

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maybe six . But II , I don't worry

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about that proportion because again ,

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what I have seen is if you're , if you

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as AC CWO are doing the job you're

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supposed to be doing and acting as that

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advisor to your commander , you'll get

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elevated quickly . So I think it all

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has to do with doing what you're

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supposed to do and showing that your

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value and once you show your value ,

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then that will further the CCWO brand ,

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I definitely agree with that . It's ,

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it's one of the challenges that we find

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when we're dealing with uh commanders

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and we've all seen it as warrant

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officers . You've been in a position

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where someone , some time in history

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has upset some young officer and that

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young officer has not forgot about that .

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And throughout those ranks of becoming

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a senior leader in the army and a war ,

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I , I've dealt with that recently ,

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I've had senior leaders say , hey , um

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not really sure what to do with you .

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Not sure what AC CW OS role is .

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And so you just really have to take it

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positive , stay engaged and , and

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there's certain things that yes in the

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back of your mind , you say I deserve

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that , right ? And , but you also have

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to say , you know , is it worth the

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fight ? And what does that fight take

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away from uh the ability to do things

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in the future ? And I'll bring up one

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that I've brought up uh many times

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before . Um the , at the 377 TSC

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when I was AC CWO , that's the largest

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two star command in the total dod ,

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35,000 soldiers , 10,000 civilians ,

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no parking spot for the CCW

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G one got a parking spot . G two , got

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a park spot . G three got a parking

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spot . Jag , got a parking spot ,

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chaplain . Got a parking spot . The CCW ,

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oh , the , the , the DC GS , a major

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chief of staff , there's parking spots .

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CCWO does not , but what I did

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do was went in there and stayed engaged

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and in the back of my mind and , and my

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senior warrants within the command ,

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they let me know why you don't have a

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parking spot and , and they did and ,

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and they were justified in saying so ,

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but I said that the , the time for that

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fight isn't right now , that time is

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coming . But it was hard . I'm gonna

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tell you , I found my own little spot

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but it was hard . Not , not , yeah ,

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every once in a while just out of uh ,

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spite I would take some but ,

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but , uh , but it is , there is certain

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protocol things that , that we need

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and it's not because we need it as an

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individual . We need it because the

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rest of the staff needs to see it . And

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when that commanding general and Sar

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Major starts treating you as part of

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the command team and you're traveling

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together and , and seeing things

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together and engage in the meetings

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together . But if you're going just to

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be the , the , the , the , the , the

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door stop or to carry a bag , you're

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going for the wrong reason , you have

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to be physically engaged in the meeting ,

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you have to be value added and you have

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to let whoever your boss is or the

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people with your boss because they have

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a voice too because they're whispering

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too . Why did we bring this person ?

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That's a seat we could have had on the

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plane for someone else . You have to be

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value added . And if you're not , you

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know , then pick your fights and choose

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your fights carefully and , and to

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maybe even help out and where a USA and

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other councils , we look at what

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authority versus authorization is . So ,

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you know , every warrant officer is

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appointed by the Secretary of the Army ,

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by warrant . And so they do not warrant

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officer ones do not have the , they're

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not authorized to take the authority of

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606 100-20 . You know , all those

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authorities that are bequeathed to a

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commander because they're a

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commissioned officer doesn't come until

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you become C W-2 . So you're authorized

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as AC W-2 because you now commission

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and he met those levels of background

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and vetted process to be of good

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character to have those authorities .

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But what does that mean now as , as a

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command , Chief , warrant officer ? So

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that's the work to be done . So you're

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authorized to kind of fill those

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positions . But what does that truly

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mean ? Uh It's almost like the uh the

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commands are made of battalion brigade

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and things they don't have authority

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over soldiers . The commander still

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does . So where does that fit in with

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the , the command Chief Warrant Officer ?

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So that's , that's , uh , that's the ,

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the answer is to be dissected and

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researched to help them come up with

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the uh , solutions any more , any more

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questions .

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OK . Uh Those that don't know me CV

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five F the command Chief Warrant

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Officer at U So , um , you know , when

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I was the commandant at our Warrant

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Officer Institute , a guy named Pat

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Nelli came knocking on my door and uh

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CWV five Nelli again , he , he asked me ,

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he said , hey , so I'm looking at

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developing my senior warrant officers

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in the reserve to be CCW OS . Like ,

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where did you learn to be AC CWO ? And

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I had to stop and think about it . I'm

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like , why was this developed over time

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by the guys who are ahead of me ? Um So

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I , I think we're getting there . Um

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Some of you might have some comments or

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ideas for the , for the group on how to

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do that , but I was recently out at

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Fort Huachuca with Mr Davis , spoke to

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a bunch of M I warrant officers , you

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know , and the question came up when I

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talked about leadership . It's like ,

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OK , well , how do , how do we , how

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are we leaders but still technical

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experts in our career field ? And I

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think it's just that mindset of , hey ,

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when you're W 1 W-2 , you're a , you're

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a technical expert in your career field .

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You're focused on being a doer . But

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then we need to get our more warrant

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officers in the mindset of like , OK .

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Now , as I become a W three Junior W-4 ,

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I'm kind of understanding how my

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technical expertise then integrates

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into the larger processes . And then as

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I become a W-4 W five , now , more of

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an innovator , um but I'm still a

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leader , I'm still a leader , but I'm

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still focused on my technical expertise .

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But that changes over time of what that

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focus is of your technical expertise .

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And that's the way we're going to

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develop these warrant officers to be

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future CCW OS in the future . So uh

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maybe you have awesome comment . Those

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are great comments and thoughts and

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appreciate you uh standing up and , and

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mentioning that I would say as we look

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at our Warrant Officer PM E Continuum ,

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um We've recently modernized that and

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at this point , I think we have

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irreversible momentum on the , the PM E

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Continuum , which is good and part of

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that continuum is a warrant officer

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master course for nominative W five .

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So I think we still have a little bit

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of work to do in figuring out what

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exactly nominative means because I

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think it means something , some

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different things to different people at

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this point . But , but we'll work on

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that and , and we'll get that figured

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out and once we hash out the nominative

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piece of that , um we'll get them to

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the warrant officer master course ,

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which right now um is tied in with the ,

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the Preman course or the , the

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commander's core course that they do

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out at Fort Le Fort Leavenworth ,

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Kansas . Um So we're , we're heading in

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that direction . I think if we had

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additional money and additional

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resources , maybe we could do more . Um

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I think on the NCO side of the house ,

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they have a , a senior leader , of

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course , uh they have SLC and MLC , I

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think um there's a course out of

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Leavenworth that that's really good

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where they're bringing in folks from

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industry . Um you know , folks who are

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internal to dod a and other places and

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kind of getting them spun up . I

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wouldn't say it's like how the army

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runs , but um it's , it's a really good

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polishing course . So I think we need

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to continue to look at options like

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that .

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I , hey , I um CW five ,

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Paul Sanki uh net com command chief

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Foreign Officer uh just to build on CW

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Five Hughes's question . Um As we're

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looking at CCWO positions , is there

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going to be any defined criteria for

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designating a position , CCWO ? Uh you

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know , types of organizations who has

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the authority to do that . Um There ,

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there's this , you know , we have , we

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have theater signal commands underneath

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Netcom Ones , star commands , they are

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not CCW OS . Um We're not sure if they

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should be or not because there's really

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no defined criteria . Well , I , I

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would just tell you , that , what we

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should do is look at that by branch and

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as you take it foundation level , what

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aviation and sf have done . I think

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that's kind of the foundation they

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didn't ask anybody to define what the

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CCWO was , they defined it for

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themselves . And I think that's the

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path that the rest of the branches need

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to take for those positions like that .

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I don't think you need department of

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the Army coming down saying , you know

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what it is or what it is . And I think

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you can , you should probably tackle

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that at the , the proponent or the

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branch level . Would , would be my

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comment . Good

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morning . Uh CW three , Kim Ferrante

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from the 126 Army band , Michigan Army

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National Guard . I just had a quick

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question about the 420 tango position ,

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uh talent acquisition technician . Uh ,

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right now that's not applicable and the

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National Guard just wondered if you had ,

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if there was a , a reasoning behind

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that , what the thought process was and

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what the plan is for that moving

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forward , if there isn't , uh ,

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potentially going to be an opportunity

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within the guard . So not that we

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couldn't take a swing at that , but we

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just happen to have the subject matter

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expert on 420 Tigers here . And so Chad ,

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we're gonna pitch that over to you if

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you want to comment on that piece .

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Thank you , sir . How you doing ? I'm

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AC W five Bowen . Uh down at the

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Adjunct General School . Can I get that ,

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uh get the question again ? I want to

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make sure I understood it was it just

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basically question when it's going to

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be open to the guard or why it wasn't ?

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Oh , sir , both . Ok . So

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we had to start from somewhere . I'm

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gonna be honest and basically the

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decision initially was to open it to

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all three components , but because we

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were doing it so quickly , leadership

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from all the components were a little

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hesitant because we weren't sure how it

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one was going to be developed , the

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authorizations , the training , the

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money behind it , right ? And the bill

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payers . So we took it slow . We wasn't

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sure about Compo two and Compo three

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yet . So we started with Compo one and

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if you've recently looked , we have now

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opened it up now to Compo three . So

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Compo two obviously was going the

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thought process behind why we're

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waiting is because the model you have

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already is already what we're trying to

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get to because that individual already

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is a retention uh recruiting and um

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attrition , right ? So that model

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already you can already kind of have

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and there's some little differences in

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the guard than we have the other

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components . So once we figure Compo

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two out and or I'm sorry , Compo one

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and Compo three out , then we'll have

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to start putting together some teams to

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figure out how do we bring in Compo two

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into this process because it's a little

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different in each one . Did I ? Yeah ,

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I think that , I think that's good ,

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Chad . And then we'll go over to Mr

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Searcy because he had a comment . Hey ,

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lo look , here's the deal . The

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recruiting retention battalions within

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the 54 are pretty robust organizations ,

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right ? And they have that whole

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marketing sale and they have some

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senior NC OS that are doing senior NC

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OS and whole teams that are doing

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things and the market allow analysis

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that the 420 talent talent acquisition

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technician would be doing . Um Look , I

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am not willing right now to take 011

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alpha positions and convert those to

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420 tangles . And the reason why is I

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don't want to take and make a new

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warrant officer and say , hey , you are

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going to live in Draper Utah . You're

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gonna work in Draper Utah for the next

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20 years in the recruiting and

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retention battalion with no opportunity

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to move everywhere . Because remember

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the 54 we have borders all the way

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around our states . And so if I make a

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420 tango in in the

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organization , I've got to figure out

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how to manage that 420 tango for 20

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years . So , so we're being very , very

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cautious about the way we do this now ,

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that being said , am I willing to send

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maybe some of my , we all know we have

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like two or three warrants in our

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warrant , our recruiting retention

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battalions because they're doing the

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warrant officer recruiting , they're

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doing the specialty branch . Some of

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them are even budget officers . I mean ,

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so we've got a lot of warrants in our

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recruiting and retention battalions ,

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but I'm gonna be very slow to do that

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and watch and let the army learn just

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like they watched us during IPs A .

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Right . So , so , so , so I'm gonna ,

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I'm gonna let them own this one this

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time , right ? Um We don't have to take

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one for the team all the time . I did

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go there . Yeah , I did . Right . Um So ,

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so , so we're gonna , we're gonna watch

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now , now what I'm not opposed to if we

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can get the funding in school seats , I

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am not opposed to sending some of our

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warrants officers that work in our

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recruiting and retention battalions to

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the 420 tango course to see what we

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gain from it . That would kind of be

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the next step that I would wanna do

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within Compo two is , is send some

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people to that course because here's my

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concern . If we don't make sure in

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Compo two that we have a touch point

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with the 420 tango M Os , we're gonna

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quickly lose ground because we're not

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gonna know what they're doing in the

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market , right ? So , so that's kind of

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where I'm gonna wait and see , but

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let's probably send somebody but not

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change their M Os . Does that make

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sense ? It ? And it may be well known .

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It's well known for these three

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individuals and others that work in

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Pentagon . But there's a difference

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between title 10 and title 32 authority .

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So the reason why Compo one and Compo

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three seem to be in unison first for

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something new like this , it's one law

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one policy that it affects both that it

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has to go to A PP , then it has to

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affect title 32 and there is only one

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regulation out there that's specific

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for warrant officers and it only

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resides in Compo two . So that's ,

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that's , that's also those are those

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layers that maybe kind of help . Uh

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Some of the reasons why there's a delay

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for Compo two . So I will add that ,

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you know , even though we have started

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the , you know , the , the slow train

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on Compo three , they , we have our

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challenges as well with uh moving the

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420 tango . Um So I , I did have to

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take a sneak peek with Miss Bourne this

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morning and he said , you know , we

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have about 200 applicants out there ,

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but commanders are , are , are

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concerned as well because they're like ,

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what warrant am I going to lose or what ,

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what M Os am I gonna lose ? And what

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bill payer ? I mean , we have some

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critical shortages um for in Compo

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three when it comes to warrant officers

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that uh might be , you know , the

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gateway to avenue for some of them to

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get out of those critical M OS , our

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eight nineties , they're deploying

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every two years . You just can't find

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AMMO techs . They're just not , they're

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just not hanging out on the block . And

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so we , we , we don't want them hanging

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out on the block either . So you got a

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AMMO tech that decides , uh , you know ,

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maybe 420 is a , is a little easier

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life than deploying every two years .

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You know , our 923 is our f our fuel

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warrants . We , we are short in some M

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Os s and very critical M OS is where we

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deploy a lot . And a lot of people

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don't realize how much those M Os is

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deployed and this may be an opportunity

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for them to take a break . And so

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commanders are actually calling , hey ,

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am I gonna lose this person ? Is this

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is or could they switch over ? We don't

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know that , you know , it just depends

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on what that individual feels about

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their M OS that they're currently in

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and if they wanna take the jump at

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jumping over to something new , so it ,

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it , it could be some challenges . Uh

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and we will see we'll work through it

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together . So we're about 10 minutes

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out . So are there any uh branch chiefs

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in here from centers of excellence ?

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Are there , do we have any that are in

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here ? So we have quite a few . So if

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you have branch issues , uh please get

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with them afterwards . We have about 10

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minutes of questions . So CW five ,

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Nelson Medical Center of Excellence

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CCWO and this one is , as I look at our

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low density warrant officer , M OS is

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because of the way the Army Reserve and

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Guard are structured . What I'm seeing

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is , there's not necessarily a career

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path I'll use 678 is a great example .

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I have eight W three authorizations

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that are in compo two . However ,

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there's no development side to really

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get somebody there . And it's the same

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concept in other M OS s where if you're

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more combat support or more combat

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service support centric . Has there

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been any work with Congress or anybody

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understanding the title 10 title 32 to

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create cross paths where somebody can

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start in the Reserves or in the Guard

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where there's a lot of authorizations

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move over and fill the other side and

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then move back because otherwise you

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have career fields that essentially are

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not , you know , there's no start , no

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end for them . And so that's part of

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where I think we run into retention and

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recruiting issues if you have to start

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at one level . And that's basically

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going back to kind of the 420

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conversation . So how do you create a

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20 year path and an M Os , it's

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probably 1 to 2 deep within a state or

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within the guard structure , you know ,

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you know , that that is a great

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question and kind of one of the areas

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that I'm gonna have to look to solve

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that because of the way medical is

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within the National Guard is I'm gonna

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have to look more at , I would say our

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medcom or our med debt TDAS . Um III I

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just became aware of this when I was

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down visiting you , you know , 30 days

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ago . So I haven't had a lot of time to

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look at it , but I think probably where

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we do this is we're going to have to

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put some of those feeder admiral . We's

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in our med debt TD A now that will help

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alleviate another problem we're having

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in our med debt TDAS as not having

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equipment to standard or not even

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having the right equipment . So as I

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look through command plan and as I work

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with our Force Management branch , uh

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and I expect you to give me some more

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data on this in an email , I would

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expect that within those med debts ,

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we're gonna have to build some of those

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feeder M Os s within our TDAS , within

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our med debt detachments . And that's

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probably the only avenue that we're

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gonna have to build those people

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because really a lot of the medical

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requirements reside in Compo three ,

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not necessarily Compo two , right ? Uh

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So that's kind of , that's probably the

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only avenue is to work through the TDAS

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that I have to build some of those

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feeder M Os

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s .

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Correct . We see the same thing with

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our two seventies , all those , all

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those low density M OS S , there's not ,

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but again , the most of those , most of

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the upward abi ability of those are

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going to be resided within the TD A ,

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within , within the state . We're going

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to have another professional

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development tomorrow and it's gonna dig

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really deep into some of the talent

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management and some of the other , you

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know , below the top level decision

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making and policy . So any more

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questions on higher level policies that

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said the Chief of Staff , the Guard

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Bureau and oar and you know , at that

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level where , what are some questions ?

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And then good morning gentlemen . Yes ,

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I , I'll hand it to you . So I got you .

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I got you . Good morning . Gentlemen .

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Please share your experiences on

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leveraging commissioned officers as

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well as other decision makers and

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policy writers in modernizing the

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Warrant Offices of Force . We have been

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attending these meetings and hearing

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all these great ideas for years now and

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it , it seems that they're not getting

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anywhere . So how at and we're then

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held responsible for fixing our own

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problems . So how are we leveraging ,

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what are your experiences in leveraging

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your influence as CCW OS in moving us

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forward into the future ? Who's gonna

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be first to take that one ? That's a

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good question . That's a really good

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question . I'll take that . Uh you know ,

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and , and you know , you don't know

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whether to say Doctor Sanchez or Chief

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Sanchez . Doctor Chief Sanchez , Doctor

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CW five , Sanchez . Um I will say

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that in um uh one of the things that

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we've done is , is make sure that the ,

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the leadership knows that uh that we

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are one trying to better the program

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and make sure that we get something out

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there ahead of them that they can

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understand . So , uh you know , I wanna

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give props to Miss Wilson . Um Miss

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Miss Phyllis Wilson , as you know , was ,

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was uh was the , is a former CCWO of

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the Armed Reserve and what she did

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while she was the CCWO , she created AC

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CWO handbook . Um A few

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years later , Mr Nelligan who was also

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CCW of the Armed Reserve , he ,

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he adjusted the CCW handbook , bringing

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it up to , to staff level and , and

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letting them go into it . So I have a

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handbook that , that , that now I have

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to put some additions to it and talk to

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the command about and make sure that ,

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that what they want , what they and

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some things that they don't want to

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hear , but what we believe as warrant

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officers as CCW OS are something that

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we can use as a tool . It's not a one

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size fits all , but it is a tool that ,

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that the CCW Os before me have put

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together and said , hey , look , if I

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have to leave something behind , this

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is something that I can leave out there

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that will assist us in our oar slash .

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Uh armor Reserve population of what we

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need to do and how we need to get

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things . Right now . We've begun AC CW

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orientation course within the Armed

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Reserve and it is open to compo one and

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two . Some people in this room have

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actually attended it . It's , it's

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nothing out . It's not formal , but it

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is something that we have uh people

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from HR C come in , we have people from

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our G one come in . It's just something

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tools that you can use . If you're in a ,

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a leadership position or AC CWO

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position or wanting to be AC CWO , that

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you can come in and say , you know what ,

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hey , look , if , if , if , if I had to

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do this again , if I had to start it

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again , what would I do better ? The

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teacher's policy protocol comes in and

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talks , our , our 357 comes in and

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talks and it tells about these are the

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policies that you need in place in

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order to make change as a warrant

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officer within , you know , your

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organization , whether it's the one

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star level , two star level . But these

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are some of the things that you need to

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know in order to affect change when

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talking to your go . So those are some

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of the things that we've done around

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that around that point . Now , it's ,

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it's not an easy task , but that's why

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we're warrant officers . You have to

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have that confidence to walk in the

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room and say , hey , this , this is

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what I am looking at and this is where

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I think you sir or you ma'am should

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look at because these are the

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challenges that we face across the

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board and you need to know that they're

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happening . It's not all about roses

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and , and , and , and , and kettlebells

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and , and , and we have a voice as well

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and that's what they don't understand .

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You know , we are a small population

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when it comes to most organizations .

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Some of us are in an organization of

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one , but you're the subject matter

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expert and you have to convince that

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leadership , whether it's standing at

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their doorstep or whether it's just

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showing them by action that you know

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what you're doing , it's being in their

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face and it's letting them know that

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the answers that you're providing them

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is a trusted answer . Ok . So , uh I'll

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take one . I think the senior leaders ,

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at least my senior leaders or the

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senior leaders I work for will pretty

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let us much let us do anything we want .

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Um , I remember I was in a meeting one

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day where we didn't have enough

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instructors at a couple of the

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schoolhouses and one of the civilians

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because again , we have the same

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problems our senior leaders have is we

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got civilians rolling against us all

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the time , right ? Um And , and the

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civilian said , well , we can't give

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them warrant officers for the

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schoolhouse because that's gonna hurt

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readiness . And I'm like , well , and ,

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and the deputy director is like , well ,

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if we don't give them people , we're

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gonna continue to lose and redness is

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gonna go down eventually . So we have

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people that are constantly rowing

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against us . But I think our biggest

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problem is us . Um We're not on the

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same message and until we get on the

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same message as a cohort , we're gonna

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struggle to get senior leaders to

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believe us . we , we have to be on the

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same message saying the same things ,

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saying the same problems identifying

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the same issues because you know , if

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we've got like if you enter in all the

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54 and all the centers excellence and

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we're all saying different things to

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our two stars because that's the ,

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that's that we all , most of us all

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report the two stars , some of us three

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stars . Actually , a lot of us report

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to three stars too , probably half and

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half , right ? And maybe one to a four

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star , right ? So or two anyway , um so

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we have got to make sure we're on

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message . Um So look when Aaron put

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stuff out saying , hey , this is the

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direction that we're going and we all

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vote , say this is the direction we're

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going , we need to be very , very

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careful to undermine our own team . So

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I would just kind of put that out there .

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We can do whatever we want as long as

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we are working together . But if we're

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not working together . We're going to

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continue the way we have been in the

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past . That's good . I don't have

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anything additional to add to that ,

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but just in the interest of time , if

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we could go over to Mr Taylor and then

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we'll wrap it up with closing comments .

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Thanks for the opportunity . So CW five ,

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Danny Taylor C com and Sustainment

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Center of Excellence at Fort Greg Adams .

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So about three years ago , there was an

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army directive that came out that was

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pushed by the army talent management

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task force . Now , talent innovation

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director that allowed a regular army

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warrant officer to retire and

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transition into the guard in the

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Reserve . And there was a subsequent pp

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that was published by National Guard

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Bureau interested in . Are we seeing or

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have we seen gains from that program

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from into the Guard and the Reserve to

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help boost our numbers for certain M Os

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S uh whether in this , you know , 54

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states and territories or on the compo

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three side . So just curious to hear

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your thoughts . Thanks . I have one

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potential applicant . So , yes ,

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I will , I will tell you that it has

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been a challenge . Uh and , and

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where that has been a challenge is a

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lot of people who retire from , from ,

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from active duty . Um

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One they don't wanna give up pay for

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drill pay , you know , and that has

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been the biggest thing to actually stop

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pay , drill pay . And then come back .

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Um , the one that is a potential

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candidate right now wants to continue

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flying . So they're getting ready to

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retire from active duty as a pilot and

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there's a potential to continue flying

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in the armed Reserve . So they , they

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love flying . So they don't wanna ,

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they don't mind giving up that , that ,

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that active duty pay . And I think

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that's one of the things that have to

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go back and look at Budget Congress and

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say , do we really have to take away

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pay or stop pay ? Because it's a , it ,

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that is , I think that's our biggest

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roadblock right there . It , it ,

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everything looks smooth across the

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table until it was , you have to stop

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your retirement pay in order to get

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that , that drill pay . And that has

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been the biggest , biggest role . I've

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received lots of inquiries . Uh Lots of

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uh lot of people have said , you know

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what , this is something I really wanna

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continue serving , but it has come down

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to every last one of them that I talked

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to . I really have to stop my reserve ,

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my retirement pay . Not sure if I

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really wanna do that . Oh , and then I

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gotta stop my va pay because a lot of ,

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a lot of our retirees have a nice

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little va check coming in and to have

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to give that up for a drill pay . That ,

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that is some of the stuff that we we ,

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that's a big challenge for us when it

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comes to that program , program is out

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there and , and for , we are coming

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short on our time , but , uh , that

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authorization was only for Compo two .

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so they , uh , so we could talk more

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about that and we have Tennessee here .

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That was the first state to adopt that .

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And , uh , it was really , you can't go

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to , you can't go to reserve title 10 .

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You can only go to a title 32 status

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and maintain your retirement pay . So ,

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so do Danny to answer your question .

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We've assessed three , um , 33 retirees ,

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one sf one Aviation . I can't remember

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what the flavor , the other one is .

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The aviator that we assessed , uh does

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not collect va or does not collect pay

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because he doesn't want to forego his

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va or his paycheck . But his side

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hustle is , he's an IP A GS 13 IP in

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the California National Guard . So he's

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content just to collect his GS paycheck

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and then forego getting drill pay .

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Ok . Uh closing comments . Uh We're

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right at our time starting . Uh , let's

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go backwards . Council 32 and one . Oh ,

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I , I think the , the one thing I just

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wanna leave to the team is , uh , we

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are a team and , and we have to work

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together and if we don't show a united

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front as warrant officers , then they

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will separate us . Uh And when I say

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they , it could be any entity . I'm not

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just talking about our leaders that we

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work for any entity will separate us .

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Uh We're already a small population and

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we have to learn that we , we are

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unique . We have to reach out to each

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other and don't step on anyone else's

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footsteps . If you have AC W-2 out

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there , that's the fuel warrant . Don't

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be afraid to call them just because

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you're ac W five . If you're not the

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subject ma matter expert , please reach

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out to the person that is , you know ,

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it builds relationships and it shows

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confidence in those younger warrants

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that they are needed and trusted as

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well . And if you try to steal that

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thunder across the board , we're gonna

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kill our population and you're gonna be

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the last CW five of your organization

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cal go real quick because I've said

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enough . Hey , I am grateful for all of

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your service . I appreciate you all

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being here . Hey , this room is full .

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So give yourself all a hand , right ?

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And , and then the last thing I'll say

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is , hey , we always like to say that

01:00:01.108 --> 01:00:03.274
our W ones and W twos are our greatest

01:00:03.274 --> 01:00:05.163
recruiters , but you are also our

01:00:05.163 --> 01:00:07.386
greatest recruiters because when you're

01:00:07.386 --> 01:00:09.497
talking , you have access to soldiers

01:00:09.497 --> 01:00:11.441
and NC OS . And so always take the

01:00:11.441 --> 01:00:13.386
opportunity to ask the enlisted to

01:00:13.386 --> 01:00:15.608
become warrant officers . Never , never

01:00:15.608 --> 01:00:17.770
pass up the opportunity because they

01:00:17.780 --> 01:00:20.010
respect you , they respect the ranks .

01:00:20.020 --> 01:00:22.530
So , so every person recruiter , thanks

01:00:23.550 --> 01:00:25.717
and , and a quick ration compo all not

01:00:25.717 --> 01:00:27.939
compo one as the chief H officer of the

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Army . Exactly . Well , first of all ,

01:00:30.419 --> 01:00:32.363
thank you everybody for being here

01:00:32.363 --> 01:00:34.586
today . Uh It's really powerful to look

01:00:34.586 --> 01:00:36.808
across the room and see uh everybody in

01:00:36.808 --> 01:00:38.929
here who's been asking really good

01:00:38.939 --> 01:00:41.199
intelligent questions and who's I think

01:00:41.209 --> 01:00:43.600
focused in a lot of right areas . Um As

01:00:43.610 --> 01:00:46.320
you go through the rest of the A USA

01:00:46.330 --> 01:00:48.497
events , I would just ask you to think

01:00:48.497 --> 01:00:50.608
about the four focus areas that we've

01:00:50.608 --> 01:00:52.497
established for the army . So war

01:00:52.497 --> 01:00:54.760
fighting , uh building combat ready

01:00:54.770 --> 01:00:57.159
formations , continuous transformation

01:00:57.169 --> 01:00:59.336
and then stewarding the profession and

01:00:59.336 --> 01:01:01.120
see where you inside your own

01:01:01.129 --> 01:01:03.739
organization , formation fit into that

01:01:03.750 --> 01:01:05.917
and the things that you can do to help

01:01:05.917 --> 01:01:08.100
us transform as an army . The power of

01:01:08.110 --> 01:01:10.300
the warrant officer cohort is it's

01:01:10.310 --> 01:01:12.939
transformative and so just continue to

01:01:12.949 --> 01:01:15.379
dig in your area uh and look for those

01:01:15.389 --> 01:01:17.570
ways where we can continue to get

01:01:17.580 --> 01:01:19.739
better . Um I wanted to take this

01:01:19.750 --> 01:01:22.379
opportunity to scan across the room and

01:01:22.389 --> 01:01:24.445
look at everybody in the eyeball and

01:01:24.445 --> 01:01:26.389
say thank you for what you do on a

01:01:26.389 --> 01:01:28.919
daily basis . Um It's noticed at the

01:01:28.929 --> 01:01:31.040
department level . Um We're out there

01:01:31.040 --> 01:01:33.040
getting after it . So thank you for

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what you do . Thank you for your

01:01:34.873 --> 01:01:36.985
families and for them allowing you to

01:01:36.985 --> 01:01:39.151
continue to serve um really appreciate

01:01:39.151 --> 01:01:41.096
it . And with that , I think we'll

01:01:41.096 --> 01:01:43.207
close it up and back over to you that

01:01:43.207 --> 01:01:45.780
concludes uh today's uh uh session

01:01:45.790 --> 01:01:47.623
we're gonna have another session

01:01:47.623 --> 01:01:49.568
tomorrow at 10 o'clock . It's with

01:01:49.568 --> 01:01:51.846
headquarters dag one talent management .

01:01:51.846 --> 01:01:54.530
Uh , the M IC OE uh , 011 , billets ,

01:01:54.580 --> 01:01:56.802
alpha billets PM E and we're gonna talk

01:01:56.802 --> 01:01:59.024
about the warrant officer , uh , career

01:01:59.024 --> 01:02:02.620
or the , uh , commander . Ok .

01:02:02.939 --> 01:02:05.161
And if you can't stay until , uh , uh ,

01:02:05.161 --> 01:02:07.719
1015 , uh , we're actually going to

01:02:07.729 --> 01:02:10.580
reconvene , uh , for that portion of it .

01:02:10.590 --> 01:02:12.479
We're moving , moving it to today

01:02:12.479 --> 01:02:14.729
instead of tomorrow . So stick around .

01:02:16.090 --> 01:02:17.889
So 1015 , we'll reconvene .