WEBVTT 00:00.560 --> 00:03.319 Hey , good morning everyone . I'm uh 00:03.329 --> 00:05.320 General Charlie Flynn . I'm the 00:05.329 --> 00:07.551 commander of us Army Pacific . I'm just 00:07.551 --> 00:10.520 gonna open a little bit before uh 00:11.890 --> 00:15.630 these three great uh officers here talk 00:15.640 --> 00:17.751 in more detail about the multi domain 00:17.751 --> 00:19.862 task force , but a couple of points I 00:19.862 --> 00:22.084 wanna make in the beginning . The first 00:22.084 --> 00:25.829 is um this formation is the 00:25.840 --> 00:29.360 signature organization of the 00:29.780 --> 00:32.250 organizational change at the 00:32.259 --> 00:34.569 operational level of the army . 00:35.939 --> 00:38.369 And you know , a few short years ago , 00:38.380 --> 00:41.159 this was merely a concept and then it 00:41.169 --> 00:44.759 had a uh we'll call it like a draft 00:45.400 --> 00:47.540 M to and then it went into an 00:47.549 --> 00:50.830 experimental M to . And now it's a , 00:51.909 --> 00:55.880 it is an organization that is uh 00:55.889 --> 00:58.180 got four battalions , it's got a 00:58.189 --> 01:00.189 sustainment battalion , it's got an 01:00.189 --> 01:02.133 integrated air and missile defense 01:02.133 --> 01:04.022 battalion . It's got a long range 01:04.022 --> 01:06.245 precision fires battalion and then it's 01:06.245 --> 01:08.300 got a multi domain effects battalion 01:08.300 --> 01:10.411 and the task force headquarters . But 01:10.411 --> 01:12.633 again , it's the signature organization 01:14.209 --> 01:18.160 at the operational level of the change , 01:18.169 --> 01:20.336 the operational change that's going on 01:20.339 --> 01:22.450 or the operational transformation and 01:22.450 --> 01:24.849 contact that's going on in the army . 01:25.500 --> 01:27.611 That's the first point I want to make 01:27.611 --> 01:31.430 the Second point I want to make is um 01:31.459 --> 01:34.230 the acceleration and learning and the 01:34.239 --> 01:37.540 acceleration in uh integration of 01:37.550 --> 01:41.110 capabilities . Interoperability with uh 01:41.120 --> 01:45.110 technical and procedural elements 01:45.360 --> 01:47.527 is really crucial because the learning 01:47.527 --> 01:49.709 that we're gaining from these 01:49.720 --> 01:53.190 organizations being uh in the Pacific 01:53.199 --> 01:56.550 but in the theater army and at the 01:56.559 --> 02:00.150 operational level to integrate all 02:00.160 --> 02:03.220 of the other service components , 02:03.730 --> 02:06.180 lethal and non lethal capabilities . 02:08.279 --> 02:11.919 So acceleration learning capability 02:11.929 --> 02:14.679 integration and the experimentation 02:14.690 --> 02:17.479 that is going on while that force is 02:17.490 --> 02:21.039 forward operating . Um and it is 02:21.050 --> 02:23.910 gaining and maintaining contact in all 02:23.919 --> 02:27.910 the domains 24 73 65 . And from 02:27.919 --> 02:30.300 that acceleration from the 02:30.309 --> 02:33.139 experimentation from the learning that 02:33.149 --> 02:35.550 is also being shared by countries in 02:35.559 --> 02:37.699 the region . So an example , I see an 02:37.710 --> 02:39.419 Australian officer here , the 02:39.429 --> 02:41.262 Australians established the 10th 02:41.262 --> 02:43.580 Brigade which is its version of a multi 02:43.600 --> 02:46.380 domain task force . The Japanese , I 02:46.389 --> 02:48.445 see them in the audience . They have 02:48.445 --> 02:50.667 cross domain strike , they've got tight 02:50.667 --> 02:53.000 tall missile systems . So they are also , 02:53.000 --> 02:55.056 you know , cross domain multi domain 02:55.056 --> 02:58.990 very similar . These kinds of gains 02:59.270 --> 03:01.990 are being made in the region because 03:02.000 --> 03:03.869 again , back to the signature 03:03.880 --> 03:06.270 organization at the operational level 03:07.039 --> 03:10.529 of the change that's going on with land 03:10.539 --> 03:14.440 based forces in in a theater that 03:14.449 --> 03:17.610 is otherwise , you know , known as 03:17.619 --> 03:19.619 being an air maritime theater . And 03:19.619 --> 03:21.730 then it is not it's a joint theater , 03:21.730 --> 03:23.952 it's got joint challenges , it requires 03:23.952 --> 03:25.897 joint solutions and the land power 03:25.897 --> 03:28.899 forces are an important element of that . 03:29.550 --> 03:31.630 And then the last point I'm going to 03:31.639 --> 03:33.809 leave you with is yes , there are 03:33.820 --> 03:37.250 material uh capabilities and 03:37.259 --> 03:39.580 solutions , uh 03:39.589 --> 03:42.500 weapons , um 03:42.710 --> 03:45.660 munitions technologies that are coming . 03:47.039 --> 03:49.529 And while those are important , they 03:49.539 --> 03:52.059 are not as important as the 03:52.070 --> 03:54.181 organizational changes that are being 03:54.181 --> 03:57.580 made in uh 03:57.589 --> 04:01.490 the theater army . And it's not just 04:01.500 --> 04:03.889 the multi domain task force . This 04:03.899 --> 04:07.520 gentleman on the far left on the stage 04:07.529 --> 04:10.080 is Colonel John Harvey . He's the 04:10.089 --> 04:12.311 director of the theater fires Element . 04:12.449 --> 04:14.116 We have a theater information 04:14.116 --> 04:16.282 directorate , we have a theater strike 04:16.282 --> 04:18.449 effects group . There's a space , this 04:18.449 --> 04:21.279 is information , this is lethal and non 04:21.290 --> 04:23.401 lethal targeting all brought together 04:23.401 --> 04:25.623 at the operational level at the theater 04:25.623 --> 04:28.100 army so that the multi domain task 04:28.109 --> 04:29.970 forces can take the long range 04:29.980 --> 04:32.202 precision fires from hypersonics to mid 04:32.202 --> 04:34.089 range capability to prism the 04:34.100 --> 04:36.267 integrated air missile defense from if 04:36.267 --> 04:38.410 I to tha to patriot , the IB CS to LT 04:38.420 --> 04:41.329 MS , et cetera , et cetera to include 04:42.260 --> 04:45.459 future vertical lift sustainment 04:45.470 --> 04:48.399 capabilities , distributed forces , 04:48.410 --> 04:50.959 networked forces , meshed forces , 04:51.839 --> 04:54.799 cellular forces all in support of the 04:54.809 --> 04:58.429 joint force , all in support of the 04:58.440 --> 05:01.269 joint combined and multinational force . 05:01.700 --> 05:04.190 And so the power of what we're doing 05:04.200 --> 05:07.450 out there . Yes , there are material 05:07.459 --> 05:10.170 solutions coming . Yes , the weapons 05:10.179 --> 05:12.660 are arriving and we're testing them out . 05:12.670 --> 05:14.859 We're learning we're employing , we're 05:14.869 --> 05:18.700 deploying but the organizational change 05:18.709 --> 05:20.670 that's going on at the operational 05:20.679 --> 05:23.899 level at the , at the operational level , 05:23.910 --> 05:27.750 core theater co core 05:27.760 --> 05:31.440 enabling . That is the real secret 05:31.450 --> 05:33.561 sauce in what we're doing out there . 05:34.040 --> 05:36.151 That is the real secret sauce of what 05:36.151 --> 05:38.320 we're doing out there . Weapons are 05:38.329 --> 05:41.119 important but weapons and material are 05:41.130 --> 05:43.149 not going to win . Organizational 05:43.160 --> 05:45.660 change is what's going to drive our 05:45.670 --> 05:48.190 solutions . It , it's gonna drive 05:48.200 --> 05:51.880 learning and it has an assurance value . 05:51.890 --> 05:54.429 Given the examples . I pointed out at 05:54.440 --> 05:56.551 least between Australia and Japan and 05:56.551 --> 05:58.718 there's others to go . but it also has 05:58.718 --> 06:00.829 a deterrent value as well when you're 06:00.829 --> 06:02.773 out using these systems and you're 06:02.773 --> 06:04.996 bringing these organizations together , 06:04.996 --> 06:06.773 that is real change . There are 06:06.773 --> 06:09.239 concrete examples of this happening and 06:09.250 --> 06:11.306 uh I'm just excited about what these 06:11.306 --> 06:13.528 guys are commanding , leading and doing 06:13.528 --> 06:15.540 for the theater army and I'll stop 06:15.549 --> 06:17.605 there and turn it over to you guys . 06:17.605 --> 06:20.700 Have fun . Good luck . Yeah , thanks , 06:20.709 --> 06:23.260 sir . So uh General Flynn started out 06:23.269 --> 06:24.936 talking about the theater and 06:24.936 --> 06:27.102 transformation at the theater above at 06:27.102 --> 06:29.325 that four star headquarters . So to set 06:29.325 --> 06:28.859 the stage for the multi domain task 06:28.869 --> 06:30.813 forces , what I would argue is the 06:30.813 --> 06:32.869 delivery arm direct out of that four 06:32.869 --> 06:35.202 star headquarters with the capabilities . 06:35.202 --> 06:37.313 I bring , I'm gonna talk a little bit 06:37.313 --> 06:39.425 about how we got to where we were and 06:39.425 --> 06:39.070 what capabilities we now have at the 06:39.079 --> 06:41.023 four star level that did not exist 06:41.023 --> 06:44.350 previously . So prior to 2021 the last 06:44.359 --> 06:46.415 time that the army service component 06:46.415 --> 06:48.637 headquarters saw any kind of capability 06:48.637 --> 06:50.859 added was in the late nineties when the 06:50.859 --> 06:53.081 A SCC was empowered with an S one and S 06:53.081 --> 06:54.915 four bolstered staff to do their 06:54.915 --> 06:56.415 theater uh set the theater 06:56.415 --> 06:58.581 responsibilities . So then in 2021 you 06:58.581 --> 07:00.581 see the introduction of the theater 07:00.581 --> 07:02.803 fires element , the organization that I 07:02.803 --> 07:04.748 happened to lead . The interesting 07:04.748 --> 07:04.429 thing about theater fires element is 07:04.440 --> 07:06.607 it's completely cross cutting in its , 07:06.607 --> 07:08.718 in its design , the multi domain task 07:08.718 --> 07:10.940 forces were designed that way as a unit 07:10.940 --> 07:13.119 with units that do that . The TFE the 07:13.130 --> 07:15.352 theater fires element was brought in by 07:15.352 --> 07:17.241 that way , by structure , we were 07:17.241 --> 07:19.186 brought in to two problems for the 07:19.186 --> 07:21.408 theater army one , the user pac theater 07:21.408 --> 07:23.519 army had a challenge to be able to do 07:23.519 --> 07:25.686 active targeting for targets of ground 07:25.686 --> 07:27.852 commander's interest that brought with 07:27.852 --> 07:29.963 it about 40 military intelligence and 07:29.963 --> 07:32.130 targeting professionals to stand up to 07:32.130 --> 07:31.850 target development work center . The 07:31.859 --> 07:33.970 other side of that was that the joint 07:33.970 --> 07:36.081 staff assessment for us to be a JTF . 07:36.081 --> 07:38.081 The headquarters is we needed to be 07:38.081 --> 07:40.026 able to fight those joint and army 07:40.026 --> 07:42.137 fires that meant we had to stand up a 07:42.137 --> 07:44.081 fully operational joint fires four 07:44.081 --> 07:45.859 which came with the rest of the 07:45.859 --> 07:48.192 personnel . So for the last three years , 07:48.192 --> 07:47.660 that's been the path was to 07:47.670 --> 07:49.837 operationalize those two aspects . But 07:49.837 --> 07:51.837 what we quickly found was there was 07:51.837 --> 07:53.614 more capacity there . And so in 07:53.614 --> 07:55.781 addition to that , now what you'll see 07:55.781 --> 07:57.948 and what I'm going to , I'll come back 07:57.948 --> 07:56.869 to you here in just a minute is how 07:56.880 --> 07:58.991 we're now supporting and enabling the 07:58.991 --> 08:01.047 multi domain task forces through the 08:01.047 --> 08:03.158 joint targeting process . The theater 08:03.158 --> 08:05.213 fire zone was just the start of what 08:05.213 --> 08:07.047 was to be continued change . And 08:07.047 --> 08:09.047 adaptation at the four star level , 08:09.047 --> 08:11.269 General Floyd mentioned the , the the T 08:11.269 --> 08:11.029 A the theater information advanced 08:11.040 --> 08:13.089 attachment that actually comes into 08:13.100 --> 08:15.211 structure at the four star level next 08:15.211 --> 08:16.933 year . However , we've already 08:16.933 --> 08:19.100 operationalized that ahead of schedule 08:19.100 --> 08:20.878 by converting our existing G 39 08:20.878 --> 08:23.044 information detachment and taking them 08:23.044 --> 08:25.156 and purposing them forward in theater 08:25.156 --> 08:26.878 to do the information advanced 08:26.878 --> 08:29.429 attachment mission set . Now with some 08:29.440 --> 08:31.496 addition to the guard and then we'll 08:31.496 --> 08:33.718 continue to build that capacity as they 08:33.718 --> 08:35.829 shape that information environment as 08:35.829 --> 08:37.496 they help take for all of the 08:37.496 --> 08:39.551 competition level targeting that has 08:39.551 --> 08:39.380 been done throughout the theater 08:39.390 --> 08:41.530 against uh some of our , our uh our 08:41.619 --> 08:43.940 adversaries and elements . The third 08:43.950 --> 08:45.894 element that will come will be the 08:45.894 --> 08:47.783 theater space effects group which 08:47.783 --> 08:50.006 General Flynn talked about . That's two 08:50.006 --> 08:52.172 years out . We will see a very similar 08:52.172 --> 08:54.283 concept of the T ad more people , six 08:54.283 --> 08:56.394 level detachment command . There will 08:56.394 --> 08:58.339 be an extension from the four star 08:58.339 --> 09:00.561 command to go out and actually do . And 09:00.561 --> 09:00.309 that's the key that I'd like to leave 09:00.320 --> 09:02.320 you with today is so now with these 09:02.320 --> 09:05.340 three capabilities , the TFE the T A 09:05.359 --> 09:07.303 and the T CIG , in addition to the 09:07.303 --> 09:09.650 existing Cyber staff , we have , we now 09:09.659 --> 09:12.820 can extend capability directly from the 09:12.830 --> 09:14.886 four star headquarters level . We do 09:14.886 --> 09:16.719 that through the joint targeting 09:16.719 --> 09:18.886 process . But more importantly , we do 09:18.886 --> 09:20.941 that either by taking the activities 09:20.941 --> 09:22.941 and actions that we can do directly 09:22.941 --> 09:25.163 with the authorities that General Flynn 09:25.163 --> 09:27.330 has and do those four theaters as part 09:27.330 --> 09:29.386 of deterrence . Or we can do them to 09:29.386 --> 09:31.386 set conditions and partner with the 09:31.386 --> 09:33.497 multi domain task force as they bring 09:33.497 --> 09:35.663 all of the capabilities that they have 09:35.663 --> 09:37.774 organically to bear . And with that , 09:37.774 --> 09:36.640 I'm going to turn it over to Colonel 09:36.650 --> 09:38.483 Charles Keane , the first N BT F 09:38.483 --> 09:40.150 commander to talk about those 09:40.150 --> 09:42.206 capabilities . If you go to the next 09:42.206 --> 09:44.940 slide , please . Good morning . My name 09:44.950 --> 09:46.839 is Charles Kane , the first multi 09:46.839 --> 09:49.061 domain task force commander . I'm going 09:49.061 --> 09:51.061 to talk really first in concept and 09:51.061 --> 09:53.228 then we'll show an application because 09:53.228 --> 09:56.340 the ability to work in all domains . Um 09:56.349 --> 09:58.640 It's a little difficult . So I'll talk 09:58.650 --> 10:00.872 in concept real quick and , and why and 10:00.872 --> 10:03.094 what we're , what we're brought to bear 10:03.094 --> 10:05.261 or why we're why we're here . You talk 10:05.261 --> 10:07.650 about the ability to apply capabilities 10:07.659 --> 10:10.099 in each one of the domains to have an 10:10.109 --> 10:13.320 effect in three dimensions , the 10:13.330 --> 10:15.239 physical dimension , the human 10:15.250 --> 10:17.583 dimension and the information dimension . 10:17.799 --> 10:19.966 At the same time , our adversaries are 10:19.966 --> 10:22.320 those that we mightn't be competing 10:22.330 --> 10:24.386 against , are doing the same thing , 10:24.386 --> 10:26.441 utilizing capabilities in all of the 10:26.441 --> 10:28.669 domains to achieve effects in the 10:28.679 --> 10:32.059 dimensions . We're task organized and 10:32.070 --> 10:33.737 built in order to apply those 10:33.737 --> 10:37.419 capabilities within four battalions and 10:37.429 --> 10:39.890 21 separate companies and batteries . 10:40.049 --> 10:42.160 I'll go through the quick description 10:42.160 --> 10:44.809 of this . And before I do that , I'd 10:44.820 --> 10:48.010 like to talk about the see sense , make 10:48.020 --> 10:51.099 sense , understand and effect . And I 10:51.109 --> 10:53.299 didn't talk about the fixed , the fine 10:53.309 --> 10:57.229 fixed track target assess because it's 10:57.239 --> 10:59.183 a little different . It's not just 10:59.183 --> 11:01.406 about long range precision fires . It's 11:01.406 --> 11:03.628 about the ability to understand how our 11:03.628 --> 11:05.739 adversaries are using capabilities in 11:05.739 --> 11:07.683 each one of the domains to achieve 11:07.683 --> 11:09.906 those effects and to be able to counter 11:09.906 --> 11:12.072 that to achieve a relative advantage . 11:12.072 --> 11:12.049 Now , we're broken down into four 11:12.059 --> 11:14.309 separate battalions . The first being 11:14.320 --> 11:16.489 the full build here . So I'll go from 11:16.500 --> 11:18.722 right to left on the slide and describe 11:18.722 --> 11:20.889 each one of the battalions . The first 11:20.889 --> 11:22.667 one is the multi domain effects 11:22.667 --> 11:24.889 battalion with total of six subordinate 11:24.889 --> 11:26.778 companies underneath them . Space 11:26.960 --> 11:29.182 company , the ability to understand how 11:29.190 --> 11:31.450 we , how we are using space and how 11:31.460 --> 11:33.571 space affects the land domain and how 11:33.571 --> 11:35.516 our adversaries are . The extended 11:35.516 --> 11:37.738 range sensing and effects company . You 11:37.738 --> 11:39.904 could think from the stratosphere down 11:39.909 --> 11:41.909 and the ability and the terrestrial 11:41.909 --> 11:44.020 layer , the ability to understand and 11:44.020 --> 11:47.380 in a sense , the environment , the 11:47.390 --> 11:49.750 information dominance company , the 11:49.760 --> 11:51.919 ability to not only protect our own 11:51.929 --> 11:53.762 networks , but to understand how 11:53.762 --> 11:56.040 information is used in the environment . 11:56.040 --> 11:57.873 The signal company as we're task 11:57.873 --> 11:59.818 organized and deployed in multiple 11:59.818 --> 12:01.929 small teams across the , across the A 12:01.929 --> 12:03.707 or we have to maintain multiple 12:03.707 --> 12:06.859 networks at various levels of security . 12:06.940 --> 12:08.884 And then the military Intelligence 12:08.884 --> 12:10.996 company , not only for the analytical 12:10.996 --> 12:13.273 capability that provides the formation , 12:13.273 --> 12:15.700 but for that forward edge capability to 12:15.710 --> 12:18.280 pull down assets from the joint force 12:18.289 --> 12:20.640 or intelligence from the joint force or 12:20.650 --> 12:22.960 national means . Then our long range 12:22.969 --> 12:25.510 fires battalion capabilities , three 12:25.520 --> 12:27.464 separate capabilities that we have 12:27.464 --> 12:29.687 organic to our organization . The first 12:29.687 --> 12:31.853 is the standard high mars . So we have 12:31.853 --> 12:33.964 batter high mars the ability to place 12:33.964 --> 12:36.187 those at various locations to achieve a 12:36.187 --> 12:38.187 positional advantage . The midrange 12:38.187 --> 12:40.131 capability we fielded one , we are 12:40.131 --> 12:42.242 fielding a second one now that is the 12:42.242 --> 12:44.359 ability to fire SM six and T las at a 12:44.369 --> 12:46.739 distance . Then you have the long range 12:46.750 --> 12:49.049 hypersonics weapons battery . It's not 12:49.059 --> 12:51.115 just a concept , that's a thing . We 12:51.115 --> 12:52.948 have the equipment , it's in our 12:52.948 --> 12:54.892 formations and then the ability to 12:54.892 --> 12:57.059 support that over long distances , the 12:57.059 --> 12:59.115 integrated fires protection . So not 12:59.119 --> 13:01.119 only do we have to see sense , make 13:01.119 --> 13:03.341 sense , understand and effect , we also 13:03.341 --> 13:05.397 have to be able to protect ourselves 13:05.397 --> 13:04.890 and protect our partners in the joint 13:04.900 --> 13:07.210 force . We're in the development . Now , 13:07.219 --> 13:09.275 what was originally designed for the 13:09.275 --> 13:11.497 integration of the iron dome system and 13:11.497 --> 13:13.719 structure is now transition for the for 13:13.719 --> 13:15.775 the application of the indirect fire 13:15.775 --> 13:17.719 protection capability currently in 13:17.719 --> 13:19.830 development and testing as we , as we 13:19.830 --> 13:21.719 speak now . And that gives us the 13:21.719 --> 13:23.663 ability to protect against rockets 13:23.663 --> 13:26.299 missiles , U A up to cruise missiles 13:26.770 --> 13:29.103 and the Ford Ford support company there . 13:29.750 --> 13:32.280 And while in concept . It's the 13:32.289 --> 13:34.345 application of these capabilities in 13:34.345 --> 13:36.456 small teams across the a or where the 13:36.456 --> 13:38.622 distance and ranges matter where we're 13:38.622 --> 13:40.622 achieving positional advantage . We 13:40.622 --> 13:42.900 also have to sustain it and sustain it . 13:43.270 --> 13:45.609 The application if this is done for the 13:45.619 --> 13:48.289 ability to sustain it with our partners , 13:48.299 --> 13:50.466 with the joint force that were side by 13:50.466 --> 13:52.521 side and with that , I'll transition 13:52.521 --> 13:54.632 over to Mike Rose . Well , he'll talk 13:54.632 --> 13:56.855 about how we do this in a constant form 13:56.855 --> 14:00.340 of transition . Thanks , shows . OK . 14:00.940 --> 14:02.773 Hey , good morning , everybody . 14:02.773 --> 14:04.884 Colonel Mike Rose . I'm the commander 14:04.884 --> 14:04.640 of the third multi Domain task force . 14:06.140 --> 14:08.669 You guys roll . Hey , so I'm gonna talk 14:08.679 --> 14:11.510 a little bit about our strategy to , to 14:11.520 --> 14:14.880 work the transformation . Uh First , I 14:14.890 --> 14:17.112 want to highlight that the , the MDT FS 14:17.112 --> 14:19.710 are moving fast , but our adversary has 14:19.719 --> 14:21.775 moved fast and has continued to move 14:21.775 --> 14:23.775 fast . So we have to accelerate our 14:23.775 --> 14:26.159 pace at every turn . The way that we're 14:26.169 --> 14:28.169 moving fast in the Inter Pacific is 14:28.169 --> 14:30.280 that now that we have two domain task 14:30.280 --> 14:32.336 forces . The third multi domain task 14:32.336 --> 14:34.447 force which just stood up in 2022 has 14:34.447 --> 14:36.558 accelerated our learning based on the 14:36.558 --> 14:38.950 lessons learned from years of , of 14:38.960 --> 14:41.071 development ahead of time . For first 14:41.071 --> 14:44.549 MDT F , we're synchronizing our 14:44.559 --> 14:46.615 efforts and therefore we're covering 14:46.615 --> 14:48.830 more ground and we're moving quickly . 14:49.070 --> 14:51.126 We're not covering down on the exact 14:51.126 --> 14:53.237 same technologies in every case , but 14:53.237 --> 14:55.237 we're figuring out how we can learn 14:55.237 --> 14:54.659 lessons from different types of 14:54.669 --> 14:56.836 technologies , different solutions and 14:56.836 --> 14:58.836 then finding that best of breed and 14:58.836 --> 15:00.780 integrating it into our , into our 15:00.780 --> 15:02.900 formations . We work across all three 15:02.909 --> 15:05.359 of the temporal time frames for 15:05.369 --> 15:07.425 transformation that that the army is 15:07.425 --> 15:10.840 using uh transform in contact , 15:12.729 --> 15:14.929 de uh deliberate transformation and 15:14.940 --> 15:17.162 concept driven transformation can you ? 15:20.640 --> 15:22.751 But our heaviest investment is really 15:22.751 --> 15:24.973 in the experimentation that we're doing 15:24.973 --> 15:27.780 every single day in the theater and 15:27.789 --> 15:29.845 what we've dubbed the operational or 15:29.845 --> 15:31.900 theater transforming contact . Now , 15:31.900 --> 15:33.956 it's not the exact same transforming 15:33.956 --> 15:35.845 contact that the that the army is 15:35.845 --> 15:38.011 working . But it is our focus to get . 15:38.011 --> 15:37.859 After those , those problem sets that 15:37.869 --> 15:40.091 General Flynn described at that theater 15:40.091 --> 15:44.039 army level and referencing back to what 15:44.049 --> 15:46.320 the secretary talked about yesterday 15:46.500 --> 15:48.719 fielding to learn is really one of the 15:48.729 --> 15:50.785 one of the biggest components of our 15:50.785 --> 15:52.840 strategy . It's getting that cutting 15:52.840 --> 15:55.007 edge capability into soldiers hands in 15:55.007 --> 15:57.007 formations that have an operational 15:57.007 --> 15:58.951 mission , putting them in the real 15:58.951 --> 16:01.007 world laboratory of the Indo Pacific 16:01.007 --> 16:03.062 and then giving feedback back to our 16:03.062 --> 16:05.173 industry partners back to our back to 16:05.173 --> 16:06.785 our developers , back to our 16:06.785 --> 16:09.007 requirements . Writers as General Flynn 16:09.007 --> 16:11.369 mentioned operational form in contact , 16:12.359 --> 16:15.140 who has assurance and deterrence value , 16:15.820 --> 16:18.710 right ? We we are presenting new 16:18.719 --> 16:21.109 dilemmas by having perceptible 16:21.119 --> 16:23.190 capabilities that our adversaries in 16:23.200 --> 16:25.450 many cases have not considered in their 16:25.460 --> 16:28.549 planning . So we're we're working to to 16:28.559 --> 16:30.640 introduce new things to not only to 16:30.650 --> 16:32.706 assure our allies and partners , but 16:32.706 --> 16:36.239 also to create those dilemmas and that 16:36.250 --> 16:38.139 operational level , theater level 16:38.139 --> 16:41.369 transforming contact informs our 16:41.440 --> 16:43.551 deliberate transformation efforts and 16:43.551 --> 16:45.469 our and our con concept driven 16:45.479 --> 16:47.312 information , our transformation 16:47.312 --> 16:49.368 efforts . And I'll talk a little bit 16:49.368 --> 16:51.479 about how , how we actually do that . 16:52.280 --> 16:54.447 So the MD TF says the army's signature 16:54.447 --> 16:56.113 transformation formations for 16:56.113 --> 16:58.280 transformation , we've conditioned our 16:58.280 --> 17:00.280 forces to rapidly integrate new 17:00.289 --> 17:03.760 capabilities through operation pathways 17:03.770 --> 17:05.659 in the environment . So operation 17:05.659 --> 17:07.770 pathways , as many have heard General 17:07.770 --> 17:09.826 Flynn talk about is the way that the 17:09.826 --> 17:11.714 theater army campaigns to achieve 17:11.714 --> 17:11.569 positional advantage in the Indo 17:11.640 --> 17:14.660 Pacific . That is a , that is mechanism 17:14.670 --> 17:16.837 and a vehicle for us to put new things 17:16.837 --> 17:19.003 into the theater in the environment in 17:19.003 --> 17:21.226 various different locations and see how 17:21.226 --> 17:23.337 they see how they work . See it gives 17:23.337 --> 17:25.170 us the opportunity to validate , 17:37.569 --> 17:40.199 clear out a non programmer record . I'm 17:40.209 --> 17:42.320 just gonna give you a couple of quick 17:42.320 --> 17:44.320 examples before we open it up to to 17:44.320 --> 17:46.542 questions . So we we absolutely are are 17:46.542 --> 17:48.380 invested in programs of record 17:48.390 --> 17:51.280 development and these often are are 17:51.290 --> 17:53.579 large , large systems , requires a 17:53.589 --> 17:55.422 large investment and acquisition 17:55.422 --> 17:57.920 strategy not commercially available . 17:58.000 --> 18:00.739 Often our our kinetic systems and , and 18:00.750 --> 18:03.170 and and things like that . So a couple 18:03.180 --> 18:06.939 of couples here that that we're working 18:06.949 --> 18:09.000 on one is Charles mentioned the 18:09.010 --> 18:11.329 midrange capability . So the midrange 18:11.339 --> 18:13.780 capability we fielded it , we have put 18:13.790 --> 18:15.800 it into the theater , but we're 18:15.810 --> 18:17.977 learning less about how we can improve 18:17.977 --> 18:20.199 the next evolutions of that . How do we 18:20.199 --> 18:22.310 make it more mobile how do we make it 18:22.310 --> 18:22.260 smaller ? How do we make it more agile ? 18:22.459 --> 18:24.515 How do we employ it most effectively 18:24.599 --> 18:26.599 and how do we sustain it ? A lot of 18:26.599 --> 18:28.839 those lessons are feeding back into to 18:28.849 --> 18:30.905 our RDT and E and , and acquisitions 18:30.905 --> 18:33.540 professionals to improve and enhance 18:33.550 --> 18:35.439 that new operational capability . 18:35.439 --> 18:38.500 Another example is the tactical 18:38.510 --> 18:41.949 intelligence and access node , the 18:41.959 --> 18:45.560 TITAN which is both TFS have fielded a 18:45.569 --> 18:48.020 prototype of that . It allows us to at 18:48.030 --> 18:51.319 the edge integrate terrestrial airborne 18:51.329 --> 18:53.880 stratospheric and space sensors and 18:53.890 --> 18:57.109 data using A I and ML systems to 18:57.119 --> 18:59.175 accelerate our ability to understand 18:59.175 --> 19:02.160 the environment . 22 examples there , 19:02.359 --> 19:04.137 we've got space capabilities in 19:04.137 --> 19:06.137 prototype that are feeding into the 19:06.137 --> 19:08.081 next gen that , that the army will 19:08.081 --> 19:10.415 field and , and scale . And then lastly , 19:10.415 --> 19:12.780 we're helping with development of A ID 19:12.790 --> 19:15.380 P the , the army intelligence data 19:15.390 --> 19:17.930 platform which , which need , we need 19:17.939 --> 19:20.150 to be able to satisfy our targeting 19:20.160 --> 19:21.271 requirements . Just 19:25.920 --> 19:29.189 know for places that we're trying to 19:30.020 --> 19:33.439 heavily inside the SNT and the RDTNE 19:33.449 --> 19:36.369 fields informing what those 19:36.380 --> 19:38.547 requirements are actually need to look 19:38.547 --> 19:40.491 like into the future . But putting 19:40.491 --> 19:42.520 capability that is needed that is 19:42.530 --> 19:44.474 available and that meets threshold 19:44.474 --> 19:46.560 requirements today into the hands of 19:46.569 --> 19:48.569 soldiers and then feeding that back 19:48.569 --> 19:50.680 into the community to improve what it 19:50.680 --> 19:54.119 looks like in the future . A lot of a 19:54.189 --> 19:56.800 lot of these capabilities reside in 19:56.880 --> 19:59.770 computing things that exist in the 19:59.869 --> 20:02.579 electromagnetic spectrum , things that 20:02.589 --> 20:04.478 require automation and artificial 20:04.478 --> 20:06.239 intelligence these are techno 20:14.969 --> 20:17.390 we were invested in their development 20:17.400 --> 20:20.380 to inform what that deliberate and then 20:20.390 --> 20:23.160 concept driven transformation starts to 20:23.170 --> 20:25.226 look like . So just a couple of very 20:25.226 --> 20:27.392 quick examples from the extended range 20:27.392 --> 20:29.503 sensing and effects , we've got to be 20:29.503 --> 20:31.670 able to sense as far as we can shoot . 20:31.670 --> 20:33.781 Charles laid out that we can , we can 20:33.781 --> 20:35.670 shoot pretty far . But we need to 20:35.670 --> 20:37.837 develop those sensors , those payloads 20:37.837 --> 20:40.059 and the platforms to deliver them to to 20:40.059 --> 20:42.226 close the distances . These are things 20:42.226 --> 20:42.020 that are somewhat unique to the multi 20:42.069 --> 20:43.902 domain task forces . So our high 20:43.902 --> 20:45.847 altitude platforms , high altitude 20:45.847 --> 20:47.958 balloons , long endurance UAs in some 20:47.958 --> 20:50.069 cases , they can stay up , stay aloft 20:50.069 --> 20:53.229 for several days at a time and provide 20:53.709 --> 20:55.890 C relay ISR other command and control 20:55.900 --> 20:58.189 capabilities it forward in the theater 20:58.260 --> 21:00.371 that otherwise would not exist at the 21:00.371 --> 21:02.599 ranges that we're talking bespoke 21:02.609 --> 21:04.900 sensors that our intelligence community 21:04.910 --> 21:07.729 informed that may not ever scale but 21:07.739 --> 21:09.572 have that , that provide us some 21:09.572 --> 21:11.517 advantage against adversary threat 21:11.517 --> 21:13.560 capabilities . Tho those have to be 21:13.569 --> 21:17.319 continuously employed , assessed and 21:17.329 --> 21:20.260 then improved as our adversaries evolve 21:20.270 --> 21:23.250 their capabilities . And 21:24.170 --> 21:26.699 one last note on uh on cap that working 21:26.709 --> 21:29.020 on commercially available and publicly 21:29.030 --> 21:31.930 available information as an ISR source , 21:32.089 --> 21:34.089 how do we integrate those available 21:34.099 --> 21:36.390 data sources to help us understand the 21:36.400 --> 21:39.359 environment , make decisions and and 21:39.530 --> 21:41.863 coordinate with our allies and partners . 21:41.863 --> 21:44.760 Both of us have exercised the combined 21:44.979 --> 21:47.239 information and affects fusion cell , 21:47.250 --> 21:49.361 which is our ability to rapidly share 21:49.361 --> 21:51.583 information , classified level with our 21:51.583 --> 21:53.639 partners to help them with their all 21:53.639 --> 21:55.583 domain awareness . We , we do that 21:55.583 --> 21:57.639 routinely in the environment and and 21:57.639 --> 21:59.750 Charles has a persistent presence out 21:59.750 --> 22:01.750 there doing uh do doing one all the 22:01.750 --> 22:03.750 time . OK . Last note on allies and 22:03.750 --> 22:06.569 partners . So this , this is a , is a 22:06.579 --> 22:08.690 heavy investment for us as general uh 22:08.690 --> 22:10.801 General Flynn laid out . Uh We've got 22:10.801 --> 22:12.690 investment with Australian and UK 22:12.690 --> 22:16.280 partners JGSDF um with Singapore 22:16.290 --> 22:18.568 Malaysia , the Philippines , of course , 22:18.609 --> 22:21.099 uh Thailand , uh more and more of our 22:21.109 --> 22:23.670 partner uh interoperability becomes , 22:23.739 --> 22:25.461 becomes very important in this 22:25.461 --> 22:27.517 particular theater . The key terrain 22:27.517 --> 22:29.128 and the dependencies and the 22:29.128 --> 22:31.295 relationships and the familiarity is a 22:31.295 --> 22:33.461 central part of our employment because 22:33.461 --> 22:35.572 the proximity to the threat is what , 22:35.572 --> 22:37.683 what essentially matters for , for us 22:37.683 --> 22:39.979 to be effective . On the last note on 22:39.989 --> 22:42.599 that , what we view that as a , as a 22:42.609 --> 22:45.099 strategic advantage , the multi domain 22:45.109 --> 22:47.109 interoperability that we're working 22:47.109 --> 22:48.942 towards is a capability that our 22:48.942 --> 22:51.579 adversaries absolutely cannot figure 22:51.589 --> 22:53.700 out a way to effectively counter . So 22:53.700 --> 22:55.867 the more we invest in , in that in our 22:55.867 --> 22:57.645 ability to work inter oerly and 22:57.645 --> 22:59.756 interchangeably with those allies and 22:59.756 --> 23:01.978 partners with multi domain capabilities 23:01.978 --> 23:03.700 is , is one of those strategic 23:03.700 --> 23:05.811 advantages that we're working to , to 23:05.811 --> 23:07.867 bring . And with that , I'll uh I'll 23:07.867 --> 23:07.795 pause for any questions that you have 23:07.805 --> 23:08.805 for any of us . 23:12.329 --> 23:15.939 Yeah . Uh 23:16.069 --> 23:18.291 Thank you , Patrick Tucker from defense 23:18.291 --> 23:20.291 one . I wonder if you could go back 23:20.291 --> 23:22.402 briefly to what you described as this 23:22.402 --> 23:24.579 uh iron dome , uh uh anti missile uh 23:24.670 --> 23:27.439 coas capability . How much is it sort 23:27.449 --> 23:29.979 of like the iron dome uh per se ? And , 23:29.989 --> 23:32.380 and also are any of the lessons that 23:32.390 --> 23:34.612 are coming out of the Red Sea right now 23:34.612 --> 23:36.446 and out of Ukraine , how is that 23:36.446 --> 23:38.557 informing your broader approach to uh 23:38.557 --> 23:40.890 counter UAs and counter missile defense ? 23:40.890 --> 23:43.057 So I'll take that one , the uh I'm not 23:43.057 --> 23:45.112 gonna talk to iron dome because iron 23:45.112 --> 23:47.223 dome , we no longer have the system . 23:47.223 --> 23:50.380 Um But I , but it will be in terms of 23:50.390 --> 23:52.668 our integrated air and missile defense . 23:52.790 --> 23:54.660 Our if PIC capability is what is 23:54.670 --> 23:57.069 filling that gap when we gave the iron 23:57.079 --> 23:59.190 dome away and then we're changing the 23:59.190 --> 24:03.160 structure to adjust accordingly . Um In 24:03.170 --> 24:05.439 the , in the FIC I talked through is 24:05.449 --> 24:07.439 currently in development and we're 24:07.449 --> 24:09.699 testing it today . We have soldiers out 24:09.709 --> 24:11.876 there testing the system . I mean , we 24:11.876 --> 24:14.098 will be employing it in the next couple 24:14.098 --> 24:16.098 of years . As the formation grows , 24:16.098 --> 24:18.265 we'll transition from structure of two 24:18.265 --> 24:20.376 iron dome batteries to a structure of 24:20.550 --> 24:23.020 three Ific batteries giving us nine 24:23.030 --> 24:25.308 platoons worth of capability out there . 24:25.308 --> 24:27.474 And then in terms of lessons learned . 24:27.859 --> 24:29.970 Absolutely . Watching what's going on 24:29.970 --> 24:32.192 in Centcom . Absolutely watching what's 24:32.192 --> 24:34.359 going on in ucom , taking every one of 24:34.359 --> 24:36.470 those lessons that we could , that we 24:36.470 --> 24:38.581 could apply to our theater and seeing 24:38.581 --> 24:40.692 how it affects us in a constant state 24:40.692 --> 24:42.692 of learning across the organization 24:42.692 --> 24:45.026 from the theater down to the unit level , 24:45.026 --> 24:47.192 trying to understand especially in the 24:47.192 --> 24:49.526 counter UAs and what's happening in the , 24:49.526 --> 24:51.415 in the Air Domain and in the Laal 24:51.415 --> 24:51.410 Domain there , Air Latal . 24:57.020 --> 25:00.170 I understand . Thank you , uh Colonel 25:00.180 --> 25:02.013 uh Thanks all of you for a great 25:02.013 --> 25:04.069 presentation . Uh Colonel Rose , you 25:04.069 --> 25:06.069 mentioned the importance of working 25:06.069 --> 25:08.180 with allies and partners . Um Are you 25:08.180 --> 25:10.291 also looking at capabilities that the 25:10.291 --> 25:12.347 allies and partners might bring that 25:12.347 --> 25:14.513 could be experimented in exercises and 25:14.513 --> 25:16.791 then brought into us capabilities ? We , 25:16.791 --> 25:18.791 we , we certainly are interested in 25:18.791 --> 25:20.847 that and , and the way that we learn 25:20.847 --> 25:22.791 what's working well for them is is 25:22.791 --> 25:25.013 through our pathways , exercises . It's 25:25.013 --> 25:27.236 through subject matter exchanges , it's 25:27.236 --> 25:29.458 through bilateral discussions . So we , 25:29.458 --> 25:31.513 we're certainly open to that . I , I 25:31.513 --> 25:33.513 wouldn't say that we've got current 25:33.513 --> 25:35.736 ongoing efforts , but we're through our 25:35.736 --> 25:37.791 work together , we're informing each 25:37.791 --> 25:39.958 other's capability . This is not a one 25:39.958 --> 25:42.180 way learning relationship for certain . 25:42.180 --> 25:44.291 And I would just add to that , that , 25:44.291 --> 25:46.458 that , that's part of the advantage of 25:46.458 --> 25:48.513 having things like the T A , the tig 25:48.513 --> 25:50.736 and the TFE now because now at the , at 25:50.736 --> 25:52.847 the theater , fires element level , I 25:52.847 --> 25:54.902 can go forward . In fact , I was , I 25:54.902 --> 25:57.069 have a partner right now sitting right 25:57.069 --> 25:59.124 behind you , I was just there and in 25:59.124 --> 25:58.969 that , we are talking about their 25:58.979 --> 26:01.035 capability , our capability , how we 26:01.035 --> 26:03.224 need to , to get closer to information 26:03.234 --> 26:04.901 exchange , how we're going to 26:04.901 --> 26:06.901 incorporate them into the targeting 26:06.901 --> 26:08.901 processes . So that as we move into 26:08.901 --> 26:10.845 exercises such as Yam Skura , it's 26:10.845 --> 26:13.123 months ahead of us . How do we do that ? 26:13.123 --> 26:15.290 Integration at the targeting level and 26:15.290 --> 26:17.345 the execution level seamlessly . But 26:17.345 --> 26:19.456 prior to 2021 my organization was six 26:19.456 --> 26:21.567 people . There was no capacity at the 26:21.567 --> 26:23.790 theater level for General Flynn to send 26:23.790 --> 26:25.790 fires professionals , space , cyber 26:25.790 --> 26:27.790 information operations out into our 26:27.790 --> 26:29.845 partners to actually do that kind of 26:29.845 --> 26:30.901 collaborative work 26:43.439 --> 26:45.495 if I could give one quick example of 26:45.495 --> 26:48.140 how that works . So at the rim of the 26:48.150 --> 26:50.650 Pacific , we had an integrated 26:50.660 --> 26:53.430 operation center with our Japanese 26:53.439 --> 26:57.189 allies to integrate multiple different 26:57.199 --> 26:59.829 types of fires . And so , you know , 26:59.839 --> 27:03.050 being able to , to interoperate uh you 27:03.060 --> 27:05.150 know , in a singular command and 27:05.160 --> 27:07.310 control node with multinational 27:07.319 --> 27:09.541 different systems , it , it really is , 27:09.541 --> 27:13.329 it , it , it , it's a way to do that uh 27:13.790 --> 27:15.939 force multiplying of of different 27:15.949 --> 27:18.180 capability , synchronizing us fires , 27:18.189 --> 27:20.719 synchronizing uh Japanese delivered 27:20.729 --> 27:22.859 fires as well as airborne fires with 27:22.869 --> 27:25.036 the joint force . I mean that relevant 27:25.036 --> 27:26.989 example in the , in the recent uh 27:27.640 --> 27:29.807 recent campaigning that we've done out 27:29.807 --> 27:29.329 there , 27:42.609 --> 27:44.165 we got a question up here , 27:53.189 --> 27:54.745 gentlemen , thanks for your 27:54.745 --> 27:56.967 presentation . Uh Quick question . What 27:56.967 --> 27:59.133 are any of the uh TT PS that have come 27:59.133 --> 28:01.133 out of the multi domain task forces 28:01.133 --> 28:03.133 that have bled out into the regular 28:03.133 --> 28:04.160 army formations ? 28:07.920 --> 28:11.880 Hm . So , so 28:11.890 --> 28:14.859 I'll talk a uh some concepts and how 28:14.869 --> 28:16.925 that applies , how that , how , what 28:16.925 --> 28:19.500 we're doing could apply to um the 28:19.510 --> 28:21.739 tactical level divisions and below . 28:22.010 --> 28:24.288 And you could just talk about like how , 28:24.288 --> 28:25.843 how we're testing different 28:25.843 --> 28:27.954 capabilities , aerial capabilities to 28:27.954 --> 28:31.079 extend networks and the ability to do 28:31.089 --> 28:33.459 this at the ranges that we need to do 28:33.469 --> 28:35.849 it for our operations over maritime 28:35.859 --> 28:37.915 choke points . You pick , you pick a 28:37.915 --> 28:40.137 location , we're trying to achieve that 28:40.137 --> 28:42.650 those same ranges and those same the 28:42.660 --> 28:45.180 duration or the time we could keep 28:45.189 --> 28:47.540 those aero platforms airborne , 28:48.310 --> 28:50.650 absolutely could apply to a division 28:50.660 --> 28:53.170 and absolutely could apply to a brigade . 28:53.550 --> 28:55.859 So it's capabilities like that , then 28:55.869 --> 28:58.130 our ability to fuse information or to 28:58.140 --> 29:01.489 fuse combat information risk type , the 29:01.500 --> 29:03.556 reconnaissance , surveillance target 29:03.556 --> 29:05.778 acquisition , acquisition information , 29:06.119 --> 29:08.119 fuse it to make it intelligence and 29:08.119 --> 29:10.063 intelligence to make it target and 29:10.063 --> 29:12.008 target would actually do something 29:12.008 --> 29:14.230 about it and working those not only the 29:14.230 --> 29:16.063 networks to do that to pass that 29:16.063 --> 29:17.841 information , but the different 29:17.841 --> 29:19.897 capabilities to fuse it all together 29:19.897 --> 29:22.119 and then actually how you're passing it 29:22.119 --> 29:24.341 to somebody that can affect it both non 29:24.341 --> 29:26.563 kinetic and kinetic . So all those same 29:26.563 --> 29:28.452 techniques , whether it's network 29:28.452 --> 29:30.675 establishment , whether it's passing of 29:30.675 --> 29:32.952 data , whether it's the fusion of data , 29:32.952 --> 29:35.175 whether it's passing the shooters , the 29:35.175 --> 29:37.175 templates associated to it , all of 29:37.175 --> 29:39.341 that is applicable across the echelons 29:39.341 --> 29:41.397 of the army . And , and just all the 29:41.397 --> 29:43.452 information that we're doing all the 29:43.452 --> 29:45.508 lessons learned that we're doing out 29:45.508 --> 29:45.130 there . We're passing it not only to 29:45.140 --> 29:47.219 the enterprise army to inform 29:47.229 --> 29:49.173 development transformation at that 29:49.173 --> 29:51.173 level , but passing it on through , 29:51.173 --> 29:53.396 through different forms to the tactical 29:53.396 --> 29:55.451 element . So they could see how it's 29:55.451 --> 29:57.785 applicable and then hopefully employ it . 29:57.785 --> 29:59.785 So you , you ask about multi domain 29:59.785 --> 30:01.896 task force , but o obviously it's all 30:01.896 --> 30:01.819 the way up at the theater level , right ? 30:01.829 --> 30:03.718 So you know what , what , what is 30:03.718 --> 30:05.829 unique for user PAC is that we have a 30:05.829 --> 30:07.996 standing fires for integrated with the 30:07.996 --> 30:10.162 joint fires forces and our partner and 30:10.162 --> 30:12.218 our uh and our sister services . But 30:12.218 --> 30:14.051 unlike the other two predominant 30:14.051 --> 30:16.218 theaters , while we're on our toes and 30:16.218 --> 30:18.410 postured , we're not actively engaged 30:18.420 --> 30:20.670 in conflict . So , so that gives us 30:20.680 --> 30:22.791 this really rich environment . I call 30:22.791 --> 30:24.780 it an incubator for kill chain 30:24.790 --> 30:26.679 experimentation , right ? Because 30:26.679 --> 30:28.901 technologies can come in and out and we 30:28.901 --> 30:30.957 can put them into the floor , we can 30:30.957 --> 30:33.012 create our own exercises , we can do 30:33.012 --> 30:34.957 these , these , these supercharged 30:34.957 --> 30:37.068 digital experiments where we've got M 30:37.068 --> 30:39.234 DTs at one end or maybe we've got JSOC 30:39.234 --> 30:41.123 sock back at another end or we're 30:41.123 --> 30:43.012 coming all the way back and we're 30:43.012 --> 30:45.068 pushing the edges of those kill webs 30:45.068 --> 30:47.290 and kill chains to find efficiencies to 30:47.290 --> 30:49.290 find where tech can help . And then 30:49.290 --> 30:49.272 we're feeding that back through our 30:49.312 --> 30:51.423 support of Project convergence . Four 30:51.423 --> 30:53.479 last year , project Convergence five 30:53.479 --> 30:55.645 will happen at our headquarters . Part 30:55.645 --> 30:57.812 B will happen at our headquarters this 30:57.812 --> 30:59.812 year at USER PAC , all of that on a 30:59.812 --> 31:01.868 live network , using live systems to 31:01.868 --> 31:03.868 track live objects out in the space 31:03.868 --> 31:06.034 that then goes back to the Fort sill , 31:06.034 --> 31:08.090 it goes back to the ad A center , it 31:08.090 --> 31:10.256 goes back to all those locations . But 31:10.256 --> 31:12.423 I'll tell you even more specifically , 31:12.423 --> 31:14.645 if I'll dial that one more , it's , you 31:14.645 --> 31:16.868 know , the midrange capability and long 31:16.868 --> 31:18.868 range hypersonics only exist in one 31:18.868 --> 31:18.706 place and that's joint base , Lewis 31:18.715 --> 31:20.604 mccord and they only work for one 31:20.604 --> 31:22.826 commander in live space right now . And 31:22.826 --> 31:24.979 that's real fun . So , so our work at 31:24.989 --> 31:27.160 the theater level of developing those 31:27.170 --> 31:29.503 data paths , those discrete kill chains , 31:29.503 --> 31:31.837 what it takes to get an SM six shot off , 31:31.837 --> 31:33.892 what it takes to get a Tom Hawk shot 31:33.892 --> 31:36.170 off working with the B CD for airspace , 31:36.170 --> 31:38.281 working with the uh the Navy elements 31:38.281 --> 31:40.337 that we do all of that then enriches 31:40.337 --> 31:42.920 the the information way hopefully to 31:42.930 --> 31:44.986 accelerate what's going to happen in 31:44.986 --> 31:47.319 Europe as they feel the same capability . 31:47.319 --> 31:49.208 So we feel like that incubator is 31:49.208 --> 31:51.430 producing tangible results that then go 31:51.430 --> 31:53.652 back either whether it's informing on a 31:53.652 --> 31:55.763 vendor or informing on a capability , 31:55.763 --> 31:55.469 finding a gap in data that we need 31:55.479 --> 31:58.829 closed or providing an actual physical , 31:59.010 --> 32:02.119 you know , pathway chart of full of 32:02.130 --> 32:04.241 information that Europe can just pick 32:04.241 --> 32:06.297 up and go as soon as they have those 32:06.297 --> 32:10.089 capabilities . I I had just one 32:10.099 --> 32:12.155 other piece to this and it struck me 32:12.155 --> 32:14.155 when Harvey was ta when uh John was 32:14.155 --> 32:16.300 talking . So , so it's really easy to 32:16.310 --> 32:18.421 do that , right ? It's really easy to 32:18.421 --> 32:20.588 say where I do multi domain operations 32:20.588 --> 32:22.699 and it's , and it's going to happen . 32:22.699 --> 32:25.290 But the devils in the details and , and 32:25.300 --> 32:26.910 how you integrate all these 32:26.920 --> 32:29.489 capabilities , how you train at the 32:29.500 --> 32:32.489 individual level with the uniqueness of 32:32.500 --> 32:34.500 what we're trying to employ . You , 32:34.500 --> 32:36.833 throw every experiment out on top of us , 32:36.833 --> 32:39.056 you try to figure out not only how to , 32:39.056 --> 32:41.420 how to fly it , how to pass it , how to 32:41.430 --> 32:44.719 connect it , but then you transition 32:44.729 --> 32:46.951 that individual to the collective , the 32:46.951 --> 32:49.062 small teams . How do you employ it in 32:49.062 --> 32:51.229 small teams ? Then you put small teams 32:51.229 --> 32:53.451 together . How do those two small teams 32:53.451 --> 32:55.562 work together ? You throw them out in 32:55.562 --> 32:57.673 the environment , how those two small 32:57.673 --> 32:59.896 teams work together , not only together 32:59.896 --> 32:59.510 but with their partners with the joint 32:59.520 --> 33:01.576 force that we're operating all . And 33:01.576 --> 33:03.576 then , then you throw in timing and 33:03.576 --> 33:05.687 tempo . So I talked at the individual 33:05.687 --> 33:07.742 level , the small collective level , 33:07.742 --> 33:09.964 then you talk about timing and tempo of 33:09.964 --> 33:11.687 the , the integration of these 33:11.687 --> 33:13.631 capabilities . And that's the work 33:13.631 --> 33:15.576 we're doing across the joint force 33:15.576 --> 33:17.687 through the theater , fires , element 33:17.687 --> 33:19.742 through user pack and multiple extra 33:19.742 --> 33:21.298 exercises , joint partner , 33:21.298 --> 33:23.464 multinational exercises throughout the 33:23.464 --> 33:25.631 course of the year where we're , where 33:25.631 --> 33:27.798 we're working through the specifics of 33:27.798 --> 33:29.853 every one of these plays where we're 33:29.853 --> 33:31.853 bringing the teams together to work 33:31.853 --> 33:33.798 game plans and where we're working 33:33.798 --> 33:35.964 through . How do you do this over time 33:35.964 --> 33:38.660 and space in the environment ? So it's 33:38.670 --> 33:40.520 multiple echelons of training , 33:40.530 --> 33:43.229 multiple echelons of rehearsals that 33:43.239 --> 33:45.461 that is happening throughout the course 33:45.461 --> 33:47.295 of the year through operations , 33:47.295 --> 33:49.239 pathways through army experimental 33:49.239 --> 33:51.350 programs like PC C joint experimental 33:51.350 --> 33:53.819 programs that were continually evolving . 33:53.829 --> 33:55.719 We're generating capabilities , 33:55.729 --> 33:58.062 organizing to employ those capabilities , 33:58.062 --> 34:00.285 employing those capabilities , learning 34:00.285 --> 34:02.520 from it rents repeat , keep going and 34:02.530 --> 34:04.141 we can't do it fast enough . 34:07.770 --> 34:09.770 Hi , good morning . Uh Colonel Jeff 34:09.770 --> 34:11.770 Crueler Air Force uh ISR Guy . As I 34:11.770 --> 34:13.937 look at the things I've done out there 34:13.937 --> 34:15.548 in the Pacific and , and the 34:15.548 --> 34:17.714 interaction you guys have to have with 34:17.714 --> 34:20.048 the 6/13 and those joint fires elements . 34:20.048 --> 34:22.270 I mean , you see fundamental changes in 34:22.270 --> 34:24.381 the way that the B CD does present uh 34:24.381 --> 34:26.381 the it like what's going on in that 34:26.381 --> 34:28.548 particular operational realm . So I'll 34:28.548 --> 34:30.714 talk , I'm former fifth B CD commander 34:30.804 --> 34:34.564 year plus ago that it was a plan though . 34:34.594 --> 34:37.745 But the , so , so a lot of this is the 34:37.754 --> 34:39.532 definition , the answer to your 34:39.532 --> 34:41.544 question . Absolutely . We need 34:41.554 --> 34:43.721 coordinations similar to what the B CD 34:43.725 --> 34:45.781 provides with the Air Force , but we 34:45.781 --> 34:47.836 need it with a lot of joint commands 34:47.836 --> 34:49.781 and that it depends on the command 34:49.781 --> 34:51.892 relationships that are established in 34:51.892 --> 34:55.669 the theater where the like from those 34:55.679 --> 34:57.568 command relationships , who's the 34:57.568 --> 34:59.512 supported and supporting command , 34:59.512 --> 35:01.879 defined the supported command owns the 35:01.889 --> 35:04.219 timing and tempo and then the process 35:04.229 --> 35:06.330 that they have in order to integrate 35:06.340 --> 35:08.451 all these capabilities to meet timing 35:08.451 --> 35:10.396 and tempo , it might be a numbered 35:10.396 --> 35:12.618 fleet . It might be the Air force for a 35:12.618 --> 35:14.673 certain operation . And it's all how 35:14.673 --> 35:16.784 we're trying to create convergence to 35:16.784 --> 35:18.896 enable joint force maneuver . Right ? 35:18.896 --> 35:21.062 And , and it could be so we're working 35:21.062 --> 35:23.284 it across multiple services at multiple 35:23.284 --> 35:25.340 echelons . But that co ordination is 35:25.340 --> 35:27.229 important because it just doesn't 35:27.229 --> 35:29.507 happen . Everyone could say any sensor , 35:29.507 --> 35:31.562 any shooter . It doesn't , you can't 35:31.562 --> 35:33.239 sustain that over time , over 35:33.250 --> 35:35.830 repetitions . And you can't get things 35:35.840 --> 35:38.062 in position that need to be in position 35:38.062 --> 35:40.173 just like the air force . They got to 35:40.173 --> 35:42.118 fly somewhere , they need to be in 35:42.118 --> 35:41.899 position . There has to be a plan for 35:41.909 --> 35:43.742 it . That integration happens at 35:43.742 --> 35:46.020 different times across the joint force . 35:46.020 --> 35:47.909 We just have to be a part of it , 35:47.909 --> 35:49.853 either us , the B CD , the TFE and 35:49.853 --> 35:52.076 we're working through different ways to 35:52.076 --> 35:51.560 do that . 35:56.959 --> 35:59.015 I was just gonna follow up on that , 35:59.015 --> 36:01.989 you know , for you may know this , but 36:02.000 --> 36:04.000 for many in the audience that don't 36:04.000 --> 36:06.820 know this every single day , there's a 36:06.830 --> 36:09.052 battlefield co-ordination detachment of 36:09.052 --> 36:11.870 artillery men , there's uh soldiers 36:11.879 --> 36:14.290 from 5/100 M I out of the theater M I 36:14.300 --> 36:17.209 brigade and the 94th AM DC . They do 36:17.219 --> 36:20.020 not work in my headquarters . They go 36:20.030 --> 36:23.760 and work in pa pack A AOC every single 36:23.770 --> 36:27.719 day that plug of army soldiers 36:27.729 --> 36:31.389 and leaders does intel fusion targeting 36:31.729 --> 36:35.179 um joint targeting . Um and they 36:35.189 --> 36:37.909 are uh doing the integrated air and 36:37.919 --> 36:40.409 missile defense for PAC AF . And so the 36:40.419 --> 36:43.060 point I'm making here is that is not a 36:43.070 --> 36:45.070 joint organization , that's an army 36:45.070 --> 36:47.292 organization doing joint things for the 36:47.292 --> 36:49.379 joint force every single day . It's 36:49.389 --> 36:51.260 built that way through an army 36:51.270 --> 36:53.689 organization to do it . Why is that 36:53.699 --> 36:55.755 important ? Because what I'm talking 36:55.755 --> 36:57.921 about with the theater fires element , 36:57.921 --> 36:59.977 that's about 100 and 20 people . The 36:59.977 --> 37:01.643 theater information advantage 37:01.643 --> 37:04.629 directorate is 60 people . The theater 37:04.639 --> 37:06.929 uh strike effects or f space effects 37:06.939 --> 37:09.360 group , that's another 120 . I mean , 37:09.370 --> 37:12.320 the army is putting an investment into 37:12.330 --> 37:15.850 the operational and theater uh armies 37:16.320 --> 37:18.800 at the operational level of war to do 37:18.810 --> 37:20.969 lethal and nonlethal targeting in all 37:20.979 --> 37:24.239 domains . That's over 200 37:24.250 --> 37:26.879 people in the theater . Army doing the 37:26.889 --> 37:29.310 work to integrate these multi domain 37:29.320 --> 37:31.250 task forces which you see two 37:31.260 --> 37:33.316 represented here by the commanders . 37:33.316 --> 37:35.204 But there's a third one that's uh 37:35.204 --> 37:37.371 that's going to the Pacific . So these 37:37.371 --> 37:40.419 capabilities and these organizations 37:40.429 --> 37:42.370 that are army organizations , but 37:42.379 --> 37:44.323 they're built to support the joint 37:44.323 --> 37:45.768 force . Why ? Because the 37:45.768 --> 37:47.823 interdependencies of the joint force 37:47.823 --> 37:50.600 are required through land forces . 37:51.500 --> 37:53.611 Those land forces have to bring these 37:53.611 --> 37:55.500 things together . I mean space it 37:55.500 --> 37:57.667 starts and it ends on the ground . The 37:57.667 --> 37:59.556 largest consumer of space is army 37:59.556 --> 38:02.709 forces are land based forces . So the 38:02.719 --> 38:05.889 point I'm making here is like this , we 38:05.899 --> 38:08.719 concede no domain in the Pacific , we 38:08.729 --> 38:11.340 can't lose in any one of them . So the 38:11.350 --> 38:13.949 strength that we have to apply not just 38:13.959 --> 38:15.959 in the air domain , not just in the 38:15.959 --> 38:18.181 maritime domain . Not just in the space 38:18.181 --> 38:20.929 and cyber domain , there is also 38:20.939 --> 38:22.995 strength that's required in the land 38:22.995 --> 38:25.409 domain to integrate all of these things 38:25.639 --> 38:27.806 and the interdependencies of the joint 38:27.806 --> 38:29.919 force , they're reliant upon land 38:29.929 --> 38:32.262 forces , bringing these things together . 38:32.620 --> 38:34.676 And that's the value I think of what 38:34.676 --> 38:36.676 we're talking about up here and the 38:36.676 --> 38:39.040 learning and experimenting . And again , 38:39.050 --> 38:40.550 you know , when you're out 38:40.550 --> 38:42.772 experimenting and you're dialing in new 38:42.772 --> 38:44.717 capabilities , you're bringing new 38:44.717 --> 38:46.661 technologies , you're bringing new 38:46.661 --> 38:48.828 organizations and you're going through 38:48.828 --> 38:50.439 concept development with new 38:50.439 --> 38:52.272 organizations , capabilities and 38:52.272 --> 38:54.050 technologies . That's where the 38:54.050 --> 38:56.272 exponential gains are made in assurance 38:56.272 --> 38:58.494 because of the increased confidence and 38:58.494 --> 39:00.494 increased interoperability with our 39:00.494 --> 39:02.439 allies and partners . But also the 39:02.439 --> 39:04.606 deterrent effect that you have on your 39:04.606 --> 39:06.606 adversaries because we need to keep 39:06.606 --> 39:08.828 them guessing , right ? We need to keep 39:08.828 --> 39:10.494 them guessing . We need to be 39:10.494 --> 39:12.717 introducing these things and we need to 39:12.717 --> 39:14.772 be changing our plays , our playbook 39:14.772 --> 39:16.772 and how we operate every single day 39:16.772 --> 39:20.179 that keeps them um in an 39:20.189 --> 39:22.078 uncomfortable position and that's 39:22.078 --> 39:24.022 exactly where we need them to be . 39:24.022 --> 39:26.133 Thanks everybody . Have a great day . 39:26.133 --> 39:28.078 Have a nice time . See you later . 39:32.870 --> 39:35.659 Thank you us Army Pacific . Coming up 39:35.669 --> 39:37.750 next at Warriors Corner , we will 39:37.760 --> 39:40.189 welcome integrated assurance , 39:40.199 --> 39:42.310 strengthening Indo Pacific Land Power 39:42.310 --> 39:44.889 Network and employing intellectual NC 39:44.899 --> 39:47.439 OS as the linchpin of interoperability . 39:47.590 --> 39:50.040 Coming up at 10 minutes right here at 39:50.050 --> 39:51.060 Warriors Corner .