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Uh I'm gonna sit here because we're

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gonna basically be presenting um so

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great segue from the previous presenter ,

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uh the , the Statistic . So what is ,

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what , who are we , where we have ? Uh

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The Chief Digital Artificial

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Intelligence Office was developed in

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2022 . It previously was uh used to be

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part of what they call the joint

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artificial intelligence . Um

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Simplistically , our mission is to

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maximize data sharing uh to provide

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operability across the services and the

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cravat demands . Uh We do that and we

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recently sponsored the uh 2024 excuse

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me , 2020 3d MD uh Data Analytics and A

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I strategy um which you guys can

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actually go and look up and it will

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really start to paint a picture of what

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we're going to present here today . Um

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So who am I ? I am rich . Got to keep

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it . I lead the health portfolio . I'm

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the Chief of Health Data and Analytics

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at the Chief Digital Artificial

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Intelligence Agency . And then I have

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uh Doctor Charles Bosch , he is my lead

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data scientist . And today we're

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actually going to walk through a

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particular product uh line that we've

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been working for quite some time and

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show how you can actually get return on

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investment related to readiness . Um

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You know , we've worked , everybody's

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chasing metrics um for what , whatever

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reason or purpose , whether that's all

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the way up to the depth se . And so

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even the depth se dep is looking at how ,

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how do we evaluate our force , how do

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we evaluate our readiness ? Um How do

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we look holistically across on what's

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our return on investment ? Um So that's

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what we're gonna be discussing today ,

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our overall objectives . Um without

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reading the slides , I'll simply put

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this today . We're here to introduce

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who CD A O is , who we're partnering ,

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what we're working on . And then we're

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gonna go through a particular uh

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machine learning model that showed a

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return on investment that we did with

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the Armed Forces , Wellness Centers .

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And then the last piece is the aspect

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of privacy . Um So when we talk about

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big big data exchange and data

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interoperability , it's key that we

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always uh look at it from the privacy

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components . Um Whether that's wearable

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devices , whether that's the medical

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information , but how do we collect

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that big data um to be able to drive uh

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decision making and outputs . So again ,

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a little bit about two CD A O is and

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what our mission is . Uh CD OS mission

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is the to accelerate dod adoption of

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data analytics and A I from the

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boardroom to the battlefield . Uh Hence

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the title today is how can we drive

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readiness and let the let from the

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boardroom to the battlefield . Um If

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you look on the right hand side of this

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image right here , you can see that it

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starts with quality data , then it is

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driven by insightful analytics and

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metrics . And that actually how we get

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to respond to A I . Um everybody's like ,

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oh , it's a I it's fancy , it's cool ,

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right ? Um So , and , and there is ,

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there's a lot of great capability about

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A I but it starts with foundation , the

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quality data , the collection of the

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data um where we actually store that .

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How do we put that into a data la

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concept or what we call API management

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um to be able to get access to that to

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actually drive the insightful analytics

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and um uh the psychoanalytic and

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metrics who is the health portfolio .

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So the health portfolio actually uh

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sits underneath what we call business

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analytics . And the purpose of the

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health portfolio is um simplistically

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is we focus on public health metaphor

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of human performance . It's where all

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three of those bubbles on the right

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hand side um come together and are

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currently our structure on the block .

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You'll see that we have uh we have what

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they call customer focussed , lot of

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efforts and then we have core funded ,

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lot of efforts . So our core funding

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line of efforts is um again ,

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maximizing data sharing to support

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combatant transit services . Um Our

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customer focused line of effort is we

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are working with Total Force Fitness um

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to help establish the Total Force

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fitness framework . And that includes

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the analytical piece and the uh

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respective data sources that are needed

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to be able to drop measures and metrics

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for total force fitness . Um

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Additionally , we have , we have

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another use case , we're working with

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us Metcom . And that's really how we

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increase the efficiency and the

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throughput of bringing in recruits into

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the Meps locations and getting them

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through the Meps locations at a faster

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speed uh given the quantity of data .

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And then the last piece uh a little bit

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more about the the health portfolio .

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And this again ties to the strategy

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that I talked about earlier . Um It's

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around our service offerings and how we

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um plan to achieve enter enterprise

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wide data access and availability . Um

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Some of you guys may have heard of

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Ivanna , but Ivanna is one of our

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platforms that we work on and it is

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considered the Dod Federated data

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catalog . Um So our initiative there is

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to bring in all the respective data

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sources , at least at minimum from a

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catalog perspective . If it can be

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connected to an API we would be able to

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post that and show that . Um But to be

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able to go and find what data do I need ,

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what data elements do I need ? How do I

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tie readiness to healthcare to physical

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to all the other um different domains

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whether that's under H two F or under

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to force fitness . So we do that

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through data discovery , data catalog ,

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and data access , uh and data analytics .

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And the last thing I would say is um CD

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O is a platform agnostic . So we're

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working across uh with all services .

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Um Some of you guys made from an army

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perspective , their big platform is

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called Vantage . Um So we have direct

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connections working with Vantage . Uh

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Navy operates on a platform called

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Jupiter . It sits on top of the and the

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Air Force has one quality vision . Um

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So again , feeding back off the

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previous conversation you had . Um the

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services in the grad fans are thinking

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through this of how we integrate and

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how we connect these together . And so

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we provide , we help provide the tech

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stack . Uh whether that's on a payment

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data is a capability or another um

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platform to be able to provide the

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tools and capabilities um to be able to

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integrate data uh over . So for today's

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purpose , though , we're gonna really

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start diving into the readiness

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prediction model . Um So with that

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being said , I want to turn over to

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doctor Trump that's been leading this

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effort for quite some time um on my

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team and to talk through the readiness

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and the TFF framework and specifically

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the outcomes that we've seen .

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So the original task was identify the

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measures and metrics for the total

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course fitness domains that should be

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recommended in policy and processes for

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all the programs including physical

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fitness . So at the time , we asked ,

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ok , there's two ways to do this . You

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need to look at the commonality between

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the measures of metrics or you can look

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at your definition of individual

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readiness and we can see what physical

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fitness and other metrics predict load

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on individual readiness .

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And they said we don't have a

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definition of , right . I was like ,

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huh , we're the office of personnel

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Raiders . And I was new to the military

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and I was like , Moneyball came out

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like 15 years ago . You don't have

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money ball in the military . You don't

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have s metrics on soldiers yet . And

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they're like , well , and I read Drug

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club , one tactical readiness , nuclear

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readiness , no individual readiness .

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And we listened to a lot of the

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stakeholders , we went to SOCOM , we

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went to different research environments

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like army , a group and they talked

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about how the closest thing they had

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for a definition , a measurable

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definition . And then you can predict

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so you can do back and stuff was

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individual medical readiness . But

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that's what not what they meant . That

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was the checklist of , can you get out

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the door ? Have you done your will ?

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Have you done your vaccines ? Really ?

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What they meant was , can you deploy

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and can you complete your deployment

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without coming back early for disease

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found in ? So we wrote that down and

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that is how the chairman's draft

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definition of individual ratings ,

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individual ratings too . So then what

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we decided to do is ok , let's see if

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we can measure that per service . And

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then let's see if we can predict that

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per service . But before we try to fix

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something , we can't predict something

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that's random . So we decided to look

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at a bunch of deployments from 2011 to

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2017 and say when you look at the

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deployment and you look at the timeline

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of the deployment , the disease , no

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battle injury happened randomly like

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uniformly throughout the deployment or

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did it look like a resiliency issue ?

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Like the fallout rate of a marathon

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that has just been predictable and

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preventable ? So to the

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left shows the disease , non Matal

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injury timing for appointment to the US

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army in 2011 and 2017 . So we decided

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to try to predict this . So we found a

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research environment that already had a

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lot of the data you need across a

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medical , dental , physical um

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deployment history and the rest . And

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we said , let's reuse that platform

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because they already had a good

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research facilitation , IRB . They had

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to do that , they put it all together .

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So Google tried to commit suicide which

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is top of 3500 but disease not bowel

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injury is 7% . You can use A I models

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to predict a 7% outcome . So we did

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and predicted it really well at the

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unit level really well . We're not at

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the individual level , when you add up

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all the individual level predictions ,

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you can see at the unit level , which

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ones we're gonna have 2% force loss ,

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4% force loss and 6% force loss in

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theater . Based on what we knew about

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the deployment , what we knew about the

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service numbers before they deployed ,

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that's pretty valuable to commanders ,

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to trainers , to all the rest ,

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especially if you can start breaking

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down to why or what measures of me . So

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we bucket it down . Also the types of

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metrics . Type one , pure predictors is

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what I mean by pure predictors . You're

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not gonna change policy , you're not

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gonna do anything but still predict

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your outcome . That's type one top

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right patch of

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this . It's hard to see on the map . So

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this is your failure rate , this is

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your variable . So we wanted to see

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things that moved , ok ? And the first

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one was the , we saw something

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that 0 to 6 of this thing , what would

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happen . But once you have 6789 of

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these things , your failure went

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through the roof . That was was the

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number of central nervous system drug

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prescriptions within the 12 months

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before the 0.06 or 56789 Hill .

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It goes up by now , not need it between

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the doctor and patient and tell them

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they can't have a prescription .

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They're getting all these prescriptions

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for a reason . But if you're forced to

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plan and you know , you have a unit

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that's hopped up on 6789 central

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nervous system and drugs and they're

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gonna have more disease , no injury

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than the other unit . You might want to

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overstep that unit . So it's relevant

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from a protection perspective , even if

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you're not going to change policy or

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intervene in any way within the service

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number or the soldier . Second one ,

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this is policy relevant barriers . We

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looked at the to call ratio that was

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monotonic in the way that you think .

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But the more interesting ones was

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months since last deployment , we

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actually saw a really interesting help

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from zero to here was around 24 months

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every extra month to dwell . After your

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last deployment , the failure rate went

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down and then there was an area where

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the failure was flattened from 24 to 36

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months and then afterwards started to

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go back up . Now this is a correlation

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one . So it's not causation . So you

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can't say , well , this is people being

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rusty or this is selection , but it's

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still interesting information that can

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help in form one flow policy . So that

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went up to the chairman , Secretary of

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Defense . And they said now I want this

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thing to inform all sorts of policy ,

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not just TFF policy reading this policy

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and we want to move it to an

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operational system . Last one is where

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I went for your community . We found we

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thought looked like a magic pill .

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Where did you take the pill ? Then we

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rate from disease , not that injury

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went down . The more dose response in

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terms of the decrease in disease on

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bowel got . And so when we looked up ,

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what is this magic pill ? And it was

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how the army Wellness Centers were

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keeping track of their appointments .

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They send a prescription for someone to

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go , but they actually went , it showed

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up in the the prescription records . So

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we can see the number of army . Now

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their armed forces on the center visits

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and that they have a dose response to

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increase readiness is to find that it

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decreases as like failure or force loss

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from people . So it's a pretty hard

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connection to readiness . And so that

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also then became the highlight . And I

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think one of the reasons um well , our

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arm armed forces was army will centers .

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Now our borders law centers are a rich

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evidence base to do what they're doing .

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But we helped uncover a direct tie of

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their evidence based practice to a

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reading this outcome . And this type of

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man can be used for a couple of things

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can help evaluate the good programs out

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there . If you have a good program , be

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like track your participation , give it

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to someone like CD L and they can

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directly tie your actions to reminisce

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if you have one because there's models

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for that . The second one is this could

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be given to commanders . But then you

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have a spreadsheet that says here's the

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forecasted readiness of your troops

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based on historic data for the rest .

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But we're gonna get the privacy in a

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second . I understand . Now , we good .

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Uh , we ask a question like , what is

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it that is a matter which domain

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they're , they're interacting with or

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is it just they're interacting with the

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wallet ? And does it matter why they're

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going , like , uh it's kind of

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important that the model also control

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for their physical fitness , their

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height , their weight , their other

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factors . Because if you only look at

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the people who went to arm and Wellness

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Center , their failure rate was higher

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than the , than the , than the average

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soldier . So the acts , the way the

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numbers I like to use is if the , if

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the failure rate on average was 4% the

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people who were being prescribed an

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army Wellness Center visit had a

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failure rate around 8% . But if they

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went , it dropped to 6% and because

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we're controlling for the factors that ,

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that then would have sent them to a

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Wellness Center in the first place ,

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their height , their weight , other

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risk factors , that's why we're picking

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up the positive effect of actually

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going to the Wellness Center as opposed

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to being identified with someone at

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risk who would be told to go in the

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first place . And that is why bringing

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together all of the data from the

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physical fitness domain , from the ,

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from from everything is important so

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that you can control those other

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factors to the extent possible that the

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data and the mathematical models allow

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and , and to answer your question

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further related to uh does it matter

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which domain ? Um this when , when this

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was done ? Uh a couple of years ago ,

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um we , we were not looking at

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specifically domains , we were again

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just looking at individual readiness

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and what can we predict on individual

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readiness ? Uh Fast forward , we are

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now specifically starting to look at

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each domain . Um The focus right now is

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really the framework . What what data

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do we need to be able to collect under

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each of the domains and what are the

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respective measures and metrics that

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drive individual readiness um under

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each of those domains ? Um And

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specifically , you know , uniquely here

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is Total Force fitness framework has

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eight domains . I know that HTF has the

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five . So we're looking at the eight

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specific domains under total force

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answer how long until that , until you

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have like information this year ?

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Yeah , great segue . Let me , let me

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jump into privacy and uh no , thanks .

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Um All right . So

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that one again ,

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in the research environment of a AG and

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the research protocols , we got access

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to health services . Half the

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predictive power of whether or not

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service members can complete what it

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comes from the health records and half

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come from other records . You cannot do

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it without the medical record , you

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can't do it with just the medical

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record and the outcome variable is

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normally trained on si pr outcomes .

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When were you supposed to , when did

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you come back ? Did you come back early ?

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And , and the more precise definition

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of that SI R ? So you need to have

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access to those data elements from

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electronic health records that we've

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demonstrated that it readiness in order

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to run these models . And there's ,

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there's exemptions for that . There's ,

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there's 12 exemptions in HP A that

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allow for things like public health

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that allow for a central government

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function including military command .

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And so it's feasible that you could say ,

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hey , we need these exact data elements

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so we can run a readiness prediction

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model and then run it with the physical

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data , with the other data that's

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required . But there's been some snacks .

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So that , that's what we're gonna , I'm

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just gonna hit on privacy real quick to

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given the time . So privacy is I I

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introduced this at the beginning . It's

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a component that we have to consider

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and think of . Um in the research

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environment , it's relatively easy . We

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can go through the research exemption .

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We will be able to get access to this .

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Um Matter of fact , DH a privacy civil

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liberties office um calls herself

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because they have over 500 data sharing

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agreements , but 90% of their data

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sharing agreements is for research

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purposes that tells us we have the gap

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of the ability to actually

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operationalize this . But we have these

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gaps because we don't fully understand

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how to use the authority given to us ,

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whether that authority is again through

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us as CD A O or the authority that's

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actually given entitled to and uh

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uniform service code to the actual

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combat commands and the services . So

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here's some of the , the interesting

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authoritative uh documents . Um Again ,

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I'm gonna hit on a couple of things .

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Um The first one I wanna hit on is the

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one on the left hand side . And it was

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uh the memo that came out from the de

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se de called Creating Data Advantage

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memo came out on Cinco de Mayo of May

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2021 in May 2021 . We were in the

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middle of the pandemic . The DEVS de

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released a memo to say creating data

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Advantage memo that all dod data should

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be to the maximum extent possible share .

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I say this because what's interesting

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is I've been told by legal and other

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people that she didn't mean health day .

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We were in the middle of a opinion

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surely when she said all day , she

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meant all day . Fast forward . Here we

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are to answer the gentleman's questions

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earlier . How where is our blockers ?

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Our blockers is trying to get the the

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prediction power of the health record

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and combining that in the readiness

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data , combining that with people data ,

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combining that with wearable data . And

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then actually getting , once we push

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that readiness . We need to be able to

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have it at the right classification

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level because now we're showing a

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classification based on a vulnerable

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potential vulnerability to a particular

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location um that does not exist on the

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health side . They have a nipper

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environment . We got to be able to

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bring that from nipper , use a cross

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domain solution and get into a sipper

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capability . So here

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is the , using Charles analogy , here's

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the magic pill . There's 12 exemptions

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in under I A law . The first one is

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required by law and the one that

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applies to you'll , you'll hear it

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under HIPA L it's called central

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government functions , but in dod uh M

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60 25 18 , which is actually our HP A

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manual , it says military command

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authority , military command

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authority allows for the services and

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the combatant commands of any

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individual wearing a uniform underneath

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their command to be able to get access

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to the respective data they need .

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Historically , in the nineties , this

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was done predominantly if I was a

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commander of a unit and I needed to ask

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something about a readiness , then I

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had that right to be able to talk to

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that provider and get that information

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um with the exception of mental health .

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And so some other areas . Um but now

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we're in a world of big data and so we

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should be able to look at this from a

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unit perspective . So this is the magic

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piece we are continuing to advocate for

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this um be able to talk to the services

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in the command to start trying to

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exercise this . It allows us to be able

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to bring that data start doing the

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prediction power , combine that with

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the physical and the other domains . Um

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So with that being said , um this is

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our closure . So open it up to any

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questions . Yes sir .

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Hey , so uh as , as you guys go through

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this , you're in sync . How long do you

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reasonably think it'll take before the

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06 level commands ? And the H two F

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performance teams are able to nest

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their mops and their modes within this

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larger total force fitness metric

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system . Realistically . Um My opinion ,

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I think we're looking at , I , I think

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we're still looking at core foundation .

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OK ? And a necessary precondition .

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So this was tasked the CEO to make

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available throughout the enterprise .

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But in order to get the data , you need

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to serve military mandatory and the CD

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O is not a military mandatory . So CEO

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S in this position to make it available

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and make those with military command

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authority aware of a thing that can

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predict readiness if they ask for it

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and assert their military command

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authority . And then there's two ways

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that you can use this capability in

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short order . The best one is program

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of data , put it in a research market

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and you guys are all army . So army

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analytics group is fine and use them to

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rerun the right explanation model . But

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add the data from your programs into it

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to get a return on the basement on each

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of your programs . That's probably the

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most tactical parochial one for you

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guys here . But at the same time , if

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you're doing that , because you want to

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man , if you also have the remit of

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informing your command on the readiness

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of your service members , they can go

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up their chain and ask for this . They

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can ask this 12 or they can ask for it

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on . But it has to be the services that

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ask for this capability that's

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available with CD A . What's the lowest

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authority level that can request that ?

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There's a disagreement between DH A and

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HHS on the answer to that question .

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What is the , there is

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PC LT is assisting in bringing

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resolution of that question . Yeah ,

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our , our , we recently . So yeah ,

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we're working with privacy , civil

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liberties , transportation to help uh

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and health affairs . Uh General Counsel

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is also addressing but really it's

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right now , the only thing we're going

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off of is the , the requests that are

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in place today . So of course , volume

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speaks works . The D DJ PC L

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OS is comfortable with the individual

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commander , low level commander

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requesting data on their direct troops .

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They're very comfortable with that . Um

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They are less comfortable on ball , but

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there has been uh questions about that

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that have been circulated on what that

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means . And we've seen more success in

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lower level units and commands at a

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small um uh

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population . Then we have a large

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population . That's , it gets scary

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when you get into larger populations .

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We have time for maybe one more

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question . All right . Yes , sir , sir .

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So when you're identifying low-level

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populations , are you talking for gay

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and below ? Or battalion below ? Just

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battalion battalion below ? Ok .

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Thanks . Thank you .

