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Ok , good morning . Every no , try that

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again . Good afternoon , everyone . Uh

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Just a few things at the top and then

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happy to jump in and take your

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questions . Uh So earlier today ,

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Secretary Austin spoke with Ukraine's

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Minister of Defense Umarov regarding

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Ukraine's most pressing security

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assistance needs . The secretary and

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the minister discussed the ongoing US

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security assistance efforts following

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the passage of the national security

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supplemental including the recent $1

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billion presidential drawdown package

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and $6 billion in Ukraine security

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assistance initiative . Announcements ,

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Minister Umarov provided an update of

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dynamics on the battlefield as well as

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the impact of Russia's continued aerial

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attacks across Ukraine . Additionally ,

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Secretary Austin also met today with

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his Majesty King Abdullah the second

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today to discuss regional areas of

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mutual concern and op opportunities for

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co-operation . A readout of their

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meeting will be available on

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defense.gov later today . Now I'd like

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to provide an update on our efforts

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with USA ID to search humanitarian

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assistance into Gaza through the joint

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logistics over the shore capability or

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also known as J Lots . As of today ,

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the US military has completed the

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offshore construction of the Trident

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pier section or the causeway which is

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the component that will eventually be

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anchored to the Gaza shore . And as I

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mentioned last week , construction of

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the floating pier section has also been

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completed . So as of today , the

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construction of the two portions of the

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J lots , the floating pier and the

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Trident pier are complete and awaiting

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final movement offshore . As you know ,

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late last week , Centcom temporarily

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paused moving the floating pier and

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Trident pier toward the vicinity of

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Gaza due to sea state considerations .

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Today , there are still forecasted ,

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high winds and high sea swells which

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are causing unsafe conditions for the J

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lots components to be moved . So the

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pier sections and military vessels

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involved in its construction are still

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positioned at the port of Ashdod .

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However , as Centcom stands by to move

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the pure into position in the near

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future and again in partnership with

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USA ID , we're loading humanitarian aid

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onto the MV Sagamore which is currently

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in Cyprus . The Sagamore is a cargo

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vessel that will use the JLO system and

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will make trips between Cyprus and the

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offshore floating pier as us aid and

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other partners collect aid from around

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the world . And as we've previously

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briefed aid delivered to the floating

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pier will then be trans loaded onto us

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military logistics support vessels and

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subsequently transported to the Trident

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Pier or the causeway where it will be

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loaded onto trucks for onward delivery

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and distribution by humanitarian

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assistance . NGO S switching gears .

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I'd like to highlight the start of a

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new exer of , of exercise , Astral

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night . A US European command

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integrated air and missile defense

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Capstone exercise , which is part of

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the defense department's large scale

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global exercise 2024 program . This two

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week exercise now in its sixth year

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will feature live flying and simulated

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combat scenarios focused in Poland and

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the Baltic States . Nearly 5000

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military members and more than 50

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aircraft from six NATO nations which

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include Estonia , Latvia , Lithuania ,

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Poland , the United Kingdom and the

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United States will participate side by

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side , strengthening our ability to

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operate as one cohesive force . Astral

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knight underscores the importance of

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integrated air and missile defense in

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protecting allied military forces and

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critical assets from aerial threats

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such as missiles or drones and

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demonstrates our unwavering commitment

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to the security and readiness of our

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allies in Europe . And with that , I'd

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be happy to take your questions . I'll

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start off with Lita . Thank you ,

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Sabrina . Um uh two things . One , can

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you give us an update on the soldier

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who's being held in Russia ? Do you

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have a sense ? Uh Apparently there's

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like a July 2nd , uh either trial or

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some sort of date . Do you have some

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sort of sense of what's happening there ?

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Um If you could just fill in the blanks

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and do you know , is it a violation

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of a regulation of some sort ? Does he

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face face discipline in action because

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he did not seek or receive

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authorization for the international

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travel if that's clear and then I have

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a quick follow up . Ok . So I'll start

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with , uh , I'll start with this and

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then happy to take your uh additional

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questions . So , um , for more

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information , um I would refer you to

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the army , but what I can tell you from

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here is that staff Sergeant , Gordon C

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black enlisted in the US Army as an

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infant infantryman and wasn't in , was

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enlisted as an infantryman in 2008 . He

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was most recently assigned to Eighth

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Army US forces . Korea at Camp

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Humphreys in the Republic of South

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Korea on April 10th , black out process

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from eighth army and signed out on

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permanent change of station uh to leave

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en route to Texas . However , instead

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of returning to the US , uh black flew

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from Korea through China . Um and then

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to Vladivostok , Russia for personal

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reasons . Um As of right now , uh

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Black is in current , is currently in a

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pretrial detention facility . Um It's

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my understanding he will remain there

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until um his next hearing and , and I'm

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not sure on that date . I refer you to

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State Department on that . Um The army

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has opened an administrative

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investigation to determine the facts

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and the circumstances surrounding his

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travel . Um But to your question on um

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you know , will there be consequences

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for his actions ? That's something that

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the army is going to look into through

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their investigation . Um But official

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or any leave to , um , Russia strictly

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prohibited . And that's pursuant to the

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dod foreign clearance guide , which of

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course is also informed by the State

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Department guidelines , which right now

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I believe that is at , um , I believe

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it's , it's category four which is do

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not travel to Russia . Um So that's the

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sort of overview of where things stand

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right now . Um And then just very

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quickly on the , on the pier , will the

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Sagamore wait in Cypress until the pier

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is actually um attached to the

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shoreline and at , at a certain point ,

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do you have sort of an even an eta on

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when the sea states might be calm

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enough to do it ? Is the aid process

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ready ? So that once the sea state

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calms down , that can start . So , um I

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believe they will uh the , the Sagamore

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transiting to , to , you know , the

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floating pier will happen in

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conjunction when it's when everything

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is sort of ready to fit into place . Um

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I don't think one would happen without

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the other . Um So uh aid is continuing

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to get loaded on . Um Once the

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commander feels that , you know , the

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Sagamore is ready to leave and that the

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sea states have calmed , um We will

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position the J lots into place . Um I

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don't have an exact date for you

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because it is of course , weather and

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environment depending . Um But we're

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hoping for later this week . Um But

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that does depend , of course on the

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environmental conditions and , and

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security conditions as well . But um

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right now we're , we're focused on the

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environmental conditions surrounding

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the anchoring of that pier . Laura .

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Thanks Serena . I have one follow up

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and then a different question on the

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Sagamore , how much aid can that ship

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hold in terms of truckloads ? And is

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this the only ship that's taking

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advantage of the pier ? I guess I'm

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wondering like kind of the throughput

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of aid and how that's going to work ?

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How many trucks a day ? Um You know , I

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don't have an exact estimate on how

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much , how many like pallets it can

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load . Um I'm happy to get back to you

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on that one . I think it will vary just

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on how much , you know , different

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things that are packed onto it . Um And

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then I'm sorry , in terms of it will

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just be the only one going back and

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forth from the floor trying to get a

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senior defense visual told us , I think

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last week that it's that it's gonna ,

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the JL is gonna be a lo to provide 100

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and 50 trucks a day at full operational

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capability . But um that just seems low

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to me considering that the maritime

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route , it seems like a ship would hold

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more than that . Well , I mean , you

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have to remember this is a temporary

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pier . This is not the best way to get

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humanitarian aid into Gaza . The best

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way are through those land routes . And

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we do want to see those opened up . We

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do want to see aid continue to flow in

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through those land crossings . Um This

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is just one , it's meant to help

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augment , um to help complement other

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uh ways that aid can get in . Not just

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do land routes , but of course , we're

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also doing those airdrops that you

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continue to see us do on a regular

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basis . Um I mean , 100 50 trucks is at

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its , you know , when it's fully

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operational . Um , I think you're ,

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what you're gonna see at the very

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beginning is a , um , crawl walk run

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scenario was we're going to start with ,

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you know , an additional small amount

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of a trucks to flow in to make sure

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that the system works , that the

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distribution works and then you'll see

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that increase . Um , of course , when

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we get to full operational capacity .

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Um , but that's something that the

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commander is continuing to work through .

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Uh , for more a like for more aid

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questions on the Sagamore and what it's

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holding , I would refer you to USA ID .

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And then just on a separate topic is

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the US considering the use of private

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military companies to help distribute

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aid in Gaza . Um I'm not aware of that ,

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but that's something that , um , USA ID

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would be able to speak more to the

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distribution of aid once it gets into

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Gaza . Um , so I'd refer you to them .

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I also realized that you asked about

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the Sagamore being the only ship going

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back and forth . Um Just as a reminder ,

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commercial ships can also go up to that

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floating pier . It's the military ships ,

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the LC US and the LSVS that take the

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aid from the floating pier to the

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causeway that is only military but

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commercial ships can go up once there

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other ships can , once they um once aid

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is loaded in Cyprus inspected , it goes

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to the floating pier to the US has

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asked for a humanitarian plan for any

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Rafah operation . Have you guys

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received anything from the Israelis

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about how they're going to handle

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humanitarian effort , especially if

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Rafah Gate closes . Well , we've had

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conversations with the Israelis . There

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was a delegation here a few weeks ago

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that , you know , gave a general broad

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overview of their plans . We are not

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supportive of a large ground incursion

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into Rafa . We are very concerned that ,

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you know , there are over 1 million

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people sheltering there . We want to

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make sure that civilian casualties are

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limited that there is no harm done . Um

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So we have made those concerns , voiced

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both , both publicly and privately .

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Give us a sense of what they said to

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you about their humanitarian plan . I

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as you can appreciate just not going to

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get into um closed door discussions .

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But as you know , and as we regularly

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read out , uh the secretary has regular

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calls with Minister Galan and um other

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folks from this building with their

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counterparts as well . So we're

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certainly in touch with the Israelis .

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Um , but , uh , we certainly do not

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support and have expressed our views on

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a major ground operation within Rafah .

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Say you satisfied with what you're

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hearing about their humanitarian plan .

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Um , I mean , again , I'm not gonna get

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into private conversations . We wanna

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see a co , we wanna see a concrete plan

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that will take into account , um , the

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over 1 million people that are there

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right now . Uh We don't support a large

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ground operation in Tarafa . I work my

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way down . I think Pat mentioned the

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security situation as one of the

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factors that could impact the timing of

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the pier of the coast of Gaza has have

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the Israeli strikes and sort of limited

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operation in Rafah changed your view of

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the security situation . Are you now

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more concerned about it ? Given what

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happened yesterday in Rafah , we're

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certainly taking into account the

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security consideration but still

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nothing has changed . We're still

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moving forward with um , the

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implementation of J Lots . Uh We do

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need these sc state conditions to study .

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Um And until they do , we're just not

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able to move that into the , into the

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um into its location at this time . But

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of course , the security situation is

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something that we're going to monitor .

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And if that does impact anything , when

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it comes to um the J Lots uh mission ,

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we would , we would let you know and I

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realize your policy on sending weapons

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to Israel as a whole has not changed ,

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but officials are saying some shipments

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have been paused . What are the , what

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message are you trying to send to

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Israel with those odds of shipments ?

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So , I don't have a , I've seen those

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reports . I don't have a comment and I

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certainly wouldn't comment on specific

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cases or shipments . Um , what I can

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reiterate is that our commitment to

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Israel's security remains ironclad .

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You've seen that since October 7th ,

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you've seen a surge security assistance

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to Israel . Um , you've seen us come to

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the defense of Israel as recently as a

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few weeks ago when Iran launched

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attacks towards , um , Israel , we also

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were able to pass an emergency

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supplemental that searched additional

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security assistance to Israel . So , um ,

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well , I'm not going to comment any

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further . I can tell you that our

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commitments to Israel's security

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remains the same . Thank you , Sabrina .

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Were you given any heads up from your

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Israeli counterparts about this latest

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operation into Rafah ? What is your

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understanding ? You said we do not

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support the major operation . Is this

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part of a major operation or limited ?

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What is the information available to

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you ? Our understanding is that this

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was a , um , a very limited operation

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designed to cut off , um , hamas'

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ability to smuggle more weapons and

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funding into Gaza . Um , that is our

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understanding right now . Um , this

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just happened , uh I think very early

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morning hours here . So we're

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monitoring the situation . We're in

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touch with our Israeli counterparts .

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We're going to see how this unfolds ,

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but I just don't have more for you to

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offer on like what this operation is .

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Other than that , according to the this

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operation and prior Israeli steps

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basically cut off all humanitarian

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aid into Gaza . All crossings are shut

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down in this one area . Rafah ,

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obviously , uh you've been insisting

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and the secretary and every read out

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that there should be an urgent increase

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uh in humanitarian aid is this

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operation and the closing of the Rafa

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crossing meet uh your uh uh

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objectives in terms of the humanitarian

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situation in Gaza . Well , we don't

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support the closing of these land

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routes . We want to see humanitarian

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aid to continue to get in . Um And so I

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think that was something that the

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president spoke to in his call with

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Prime Minister Netanyahu is that we do

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want to see these crossings open .

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Karem Shalom has been closed for , I

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think a bit now . Um So we do want to

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see more aid be able to get through

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these crossing . That is a commitment

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that the Israeli government has made

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that they will um again , we are we are

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continuing to monitor the situation on

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the ground to Lara's question earlier ,

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we know land routes are the best , most

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effective , efficient way to get

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humanitarian aid in . And we know that

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the humanitarian situation in Gaza is

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dire . Um And so people need the the

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medical supplies , the food , the water .

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Um , that is something that we want to

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see continue to get in . And we have

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been told that these crossings will

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open back up . Um , in the meantime ,

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you know , we've also continued to

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conduct humanitarian airdrops within

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Gaza . And should we get to the time

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and point where we're able to position

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this temporary pier off the coast of

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Gaza that will also help with

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humanitarian aid getting in or a

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question on Rafa to follow up on Friday

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and then a question on the soldier in

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Russia and in the discussions about

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what you call the general broad

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overview of , of Israel's Rafa plans .

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Was there discussion about this limited

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operation or was there no discussion

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about this previously with you between

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America and Israel ? So we don't have

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more to share in terms of the

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conversation between Minister Galan and

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Secretary Austin . Um But as you can

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appreciate they talk pretty regularly .

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Uh their conversations are already are

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very direct , um very frank with each

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other . Um But I'm just not going to go

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into more details on that . Um How soon

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Rafa could function again as , as one

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of the most important crossings ? That

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would be something for the for the

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Israeli government to speak to . I I

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can't speak to that . And then the

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follow up question on on staff , Gordon

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Black , is there any suspicion or

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concern that in his relationship with

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his Russian girlfriend or while in

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Russia , he compromised sensitive

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information . And is that part of the

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ongoing investigation ? I'd refer you

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to army for more information on that .

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As I mentioned , there is um an

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administrative investigation underway

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um to determine the facts to determine

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what exactly happened here , um the

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surrounding his travel , but I just

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don't have morphing on that . Yes , Joe

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Biden administration is required to

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notify Congress by tomorrow if Israel

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violated international law without

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humanitarian aid since October is a

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department . What's the department's

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assessment in terms of either one of

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those have they violated or have they

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withheld humanitarian aid ? So I

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believe you're referring to the NSM and

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that's something that I would have to

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refer you to state to speak to the

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Pentagon assessed that Israel has

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violated national law or with

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humanitarian . I don't have anything to

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add on to this one . This is something

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that the State Department is putting

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together . It's a report to Congress

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that is , you know , do every however

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many in increments , but I just don't

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have more at this time to offer on the

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NSM , in particular human rights watch

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came out with a report and said there

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was a March 27th attack on emergency

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and relief workers , several of them in

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southern Lebanon um by Israel and

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they say that a US made J Dam was used

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as well as a £500 Israeli bomb . Um It

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killed like I said , these several uh

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individuals who were civilians and

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there's been no evidence of a military

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target at the site . Are you guys aware

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of this ? Um , how close , I mean ,

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we've seen , you've said before that

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there are no conditions on us ,

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military weapons or weapons provided to

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Israel . Are you guys tracking these

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kinds of things at all ? And are you

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aware of this attack ? So I'm not going

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to get into specific incidents and I

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can't confirm those reports that you're

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citing us weapons being used . What I

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can tell you is that uh

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we have been very clear that we want to

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see Israel comply with humanitarian

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laws and the laws of armed conflict .

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Um This is something that it's an

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interagency process um that uh between

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the state department , other agencies ,

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we are reviewing our findings will also

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go into the NSM . Um for more on that .

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I'm just not going to get ahead of that

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process as you can appreciate . I'd

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refer to the State Department just one

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last one . The uh the I has returned to

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the Red Sea . Um We saw a statement a

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couple , I guess a couple weeks ago now

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that it had gone into the sixth fleet

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into Europe . Can you say anything ?

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And then , you know , on April 23rd

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Centcom released or put out a tweet and

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said there were sixteens deployed to ,

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to the A Aor didn't say specify where

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can you say anything about ? Can you

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give us any updates on this . Um I

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guess uh mission to counter deter the

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houthis is the IC . Has it been

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deployed ? Has it been , has the

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deployment been extended ? Um So I

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don't have anything for you on any

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changes to our force posture with the

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IC or anything additional . Um You have

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uh the positioning of our assets there

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for the exact reason to um help with

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deterrence . Um and our , and our , and

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our efforts when it comes to operation

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Prosperity Guardian , which is to

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ensure that commercial shipping through

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the Red Sea , that Ba M the Gulf of

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Aden can continue freely without the

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harassment of Houthi attacks . Um

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You've seen Centcom put out , you know ,

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regular updates on when there are

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engagements . Um But I don't have

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anything more to , to read out at this

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time on the Ike Liz . Thanks . Um Last

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week , Secretary Austin told lawmakers

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he was concerned over a quote , lack of

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execution in terms of um Israel's plans

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to evacuate civilians from Gaza . Um Is

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that still the case ? Is he still

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concerned about the lack of execution ?

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I think we are concerned about any type

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of um ground operation , large ground

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operation within Rafah that does not

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take into account that very large

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civilian population . Uh So yes , the

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Secretary's words still absolutely

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stand to today from Joseph's question .

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Um So was the US si brought back into

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the Red Sea to counter the Houthis

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because there were increased attacks

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when it was in the Eastern Med II . I

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again , I don't have the , the list of

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attacks that happened when she was not

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in the Red Sea , but , you know , we ,

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we have other partner nations that are

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part of operation , prosperity ,

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Guardian and others that are not that

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were engaging when the houthis did fire

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attacks um , unlawfully at commercial

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vessels . Um I think I read out when ,

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you know , when she , I said that she

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would be back soon , she has returned ,

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but I just don't have more for you on

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um anything additional or any extension .

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Um I'm just gonna go to the phones

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before I forget and then come back into

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the , to the room here . Uh Jared Zuba ,

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I'll monitor . Hi , Sabrina . Thanks

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for doing this . Um I understand that

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uh Israeli officials told the White

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House counterparts that last night's

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Rafah operation in Rafah was limited .

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Um But what preparations are you seeing ?

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Uh the Israeli military make , does it

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look like they're setting up for uh

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broader ground clearing major ground

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operations or does it look like they're

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preparing for something more precise

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and targeted and surgical ? Thanks .

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Thanks , Jared for the question . So ,

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in terms of what they're doing their

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actual planning , um when it comes to

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any operation , I would refer you to

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the ID F to speak to that . Um What I

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can tell you . Um And I'm not trying to

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sound like a broken record here . What

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I can tell you is publicly and

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privately . We've been very clear that

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we do not support a large ground

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incursion in Tarafa given the um

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incredibly large civilian population

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that is currently sheltered there . Um

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And , and so , you know , I just have

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to reiterate that point again . Um All

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right . Uh Next question JJ Green WTO P .

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Hey Sabrina , thank you . Um Two quick

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questions about the uh staff sergeant

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black . Um First one , can you address

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the significance of an active duty

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service member being in Russian custody ?

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Given Russia's efforts to , I guess ,

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essentially seek out and find and

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capture Americans and to use them for

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political purposes or geopolitical

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purposes . Can you address the

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significance ? First of a , an active

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duty US service member being in Russian

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custody ? Uh Thanks JJ . So

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be before I start going down . Um uh

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This line , I would just remind you

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that the army is looking into this .

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They have an administrative

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investigation underway to determine the

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facts and circumstances around this

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travel . Um You have to remember that ,

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yes , this is an active duty service

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member , but he was on leave at the

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time . And so , uh you know , all we

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know is that he went to Russia for

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personal reasons . Um I don't have more

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to share as that is that the army is

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continuing to look into this incident .

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Um And for further questions on his

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condition or next steps , I'd refer you

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to the State Department for more on

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that . And I'm sorry , did you have a

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follow up ? You know , actually I'll

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skip that , but thank you for answering

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that question . All right , I'll come

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back in the room . Yes . Right over

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here , sir . The sorry , the CFI

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proposal that Hamas they said they will

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accept it is the same offer that's been

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on the table for a long time . And have

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you reviewed it with your partners ? So

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I would refer you to the State

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Department and as you are probably

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aware , um the bill burns is in the

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region and sort of leading these

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negotiations . So I I don't want to

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speak from here about um the ceasefire

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hostage negotiations that are taking

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place other than that they are underway .

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Um And you know , we have a

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representative at the table as well uh

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working to see um to ensure that

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that a ceasefire could be put into

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place if a cease , if a ceasefire were

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to be put into place , that obviously

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would increase chances of more

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humanitarian aid to get in to Gaza and

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of course , release more hostages ,

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which is obviously something we want to

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see . Russia . Vladimir Putin ordered

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his forces to rehearse for a non

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strategic nuclear weapon . How do you

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look at it and have you seen any change

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in Russia's posture on nuclear ? How do

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we look at what Russia announced ? We

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look at that as completely

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irresponsible . We have not seen any

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reason to adjust our own nuclear

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posture . We haven't seen any

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indications that Russia plans to use a

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nuclear weapon , but it's deeply

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irresponsible and we're going to

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continue to monitor what's happening in

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the region . Yeah . Thank you , Sabrina .

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You've been saying for months now ,

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this administration that you're against

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a major military operation of Rafa and

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they told over 100,000 people to

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evacuate in eastern Rafa . And that

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sounds like a lot of people . So ,

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what's the definition of a major

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military operation ? What makes a

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limited military operation ? What's a

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major military operation ? Is there an

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acceptable number of civilians that can

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be put at greater risk for the Pentagon ?

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Like how , how do we know what's major ?

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Sure . Um , look as you can appreciate

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not going to get into more specifics on

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like their operations . And some of the

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things that they brief us on a major

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military operation would put at risk

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civilian lives , anything that puts at

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risk civilian lives within Rafah is

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something that we are not supportive of .

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We do not want to see a population ,

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but over 1 million people who were ,

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you know , directed there . Um When

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other operations were going on in the

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north and the west were forced into

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Rafah , we don't want to see the

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civilian population put at risk knowing

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that also there is um uh tremendous

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hurdles of also getting humanitarian

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aid in medical supplies in . And so any

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type of military operation must take

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into account that large concentration

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of civilians . And right now , we

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haven't seen a cred , we , we need to

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see a credible plan that would protect

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those civilians . Um And so we're

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continuing to urge and speak to our

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Israeli counterparts about that plan .

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Um , and I'll just say about that so

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that , you know , over 100,000 people

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were taught to leave the area . That

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sounds like an alarming development

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because they can be put at greater risk .

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So this line that's drawn in the sand .

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How do you make sure that Israel

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doesn't cross that ? Yeah , again , I'm

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not putting a specific number on it on

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like how many people or need to leave

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or how many , uh you know , what a

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large scale operation looks like

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because I'm not going to detail their

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own plans and what they share with us .

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That's something for them to speak to .

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What I can tell you is we have a large

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population of civilians that are

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sheltered in Rafah . They need to be

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protected if there is any type of

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operation or any type of major ground

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incursion um in into Rafa . And um we

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want to see those civilians protected

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and to move over 1 million people

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that's gonna take a lot of time . So ,

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uh we're , we're continuing to work

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with our Israeli counterparts . Um And

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I'll just leave it at that . Yeah , in

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the back Carla , thanks . I uh vo I was

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told by a US military official that uh

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in , that some of the diplomatic

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clearances for flights have been denied ,

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that's forced extended deployments the

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day to day life sustainment is

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continuing very via commercial contact .

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Uh , contract transportation . These

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raise a lot of questions . I mean ,

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what's going on with the US forces in

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right now ? Are they allowed to leave ?

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Are they getting the medical supplies

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and equipment and ammunition , et

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cetera ? Everything that they need ? Uh

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And why is , what reason is giving the

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Pentagon for why they're denying some

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of the diplomatic clearances ? I direct

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you to the CNSP to speak to why they're

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denying some of the diplomatic

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clearances . Um We are working

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with the CNSP on what our orderly

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withdrawal looks like . Um As of right

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now , our forces in still continue to

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have access to the necessary food ,

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water , medical supplies that they need .

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Um But this is of course , something

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that we are working towards on what

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that orderly withdrawal looks like .

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There have been some cases where some

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of our service members have um have

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left um for unforeseen

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circumstances . Um Right now , as I

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think we briefed um a few weeks ago ,

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we will have another delegation led by

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someone from the Department of Defense

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that will go to Nyame to continue these

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conversations about the orderly

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withdrawal that um visit hasn't

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happened yet . So until that does and

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until um parameters are put around for

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these negotiations on what the orderly

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withdrawal looks like . Um We're still

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in a bit of this holding pattern until

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we can have those conversations uh real

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quickly on Russia . Um There have been

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requests uh for the Pentagon to kind of

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detail how Russia is able to use

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Starlink because Starlink is also

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contracted with dod . Um Do you have

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any details to provide on how Russia is

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able to use that on the battlefield and

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what the Pentagon and others are doing

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to try to prevent that from happening ?

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I don't have anything specific on

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Russia using Starlink as you know , our

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our contract with Starlink is for the

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Ukrainians to use , but I don't have

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anything more specific on Russia using

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starlink , Rio . Thanks so much . My

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question is about the South China Sea .

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Um Recently , we have seen the Chinese

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dangerous options towards Philippines

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vessels , but recently Chinese

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government argued that there was a

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temporary special agreement with the

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former Philippine President Duterte in

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2016 and about the restricted

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access by Philippine vessels . Um and

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China accused the Philippine side of

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the recent tensions . So , can I ask

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for your comment on this Chinese crane ?

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Are you talking about like the firing

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of water can and things like that

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towards Philippine vessels ? Yes . And

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the China claims that there was a

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hidden agreement um with the Philippine

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side . Uh I'm not exactly clear or

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maybe not understanding about an

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agreement that you're referring to ,

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but of course , we continue to monitor

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what's happening in the South China Sea .

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We continue to uh be alarmed when these

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incidents happen . Um whether it be

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with uh Philippine vessels or other

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vessels , um We want to be able to see

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the , you know , the , the um freedom

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of navigation to be upheld . So of

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course , we're going to continue to

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monitor uh what's happening there with

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our partners and allies . Yeah , thank

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you . Uh My question is about um

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another country in Africa , Chad . Um

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Could you give me the update on the

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situation in Chad ? Has the withdrawal

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of the , um has the withdrawal

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withdrawn been completed or are there

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any us personnel remaining in the

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country ? Um Thanks for the question .

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So I actually don't have much of an

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update other than what we provided last

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week , which is that there were some

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military personnel that did uh uh leave

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the country , some of which were

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already scheduled to rotate out . Um We

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do still have military personnel in the

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country at the embassy . Um But I don't

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have more of an update for you on that

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other than that's basically where we

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were last week . So the situation has

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not been changed um because there was

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on a presidential election . Uh Yes .

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Yeah , we're continuing our

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conversations with the government , but

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I just don't have more to share at this

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time . I'll come back in a sec . Let me

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just go . Uh I have two more on the

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phones . And then happy to come back in

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the room , uh Heather us and I thanks

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so much . Um , so the houthis have said

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that they're going to stop all ships

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that enter their operation or zone of

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operation in the Red Sea . Um , so I

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have as well as uh target ships that

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they can reach with any of their

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weapons including in the meds . So I

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have two questions . The first is , uh ,

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if there's been any talk of updating

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the presence in the Red Sea in order to

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come this latest threat . And then the

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second one , is there any concerns

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about or I guess how is the US prepared

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to protect ships that are going to be

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bringing in aid in the med to the

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temporary pier uh from any potential

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Houthi attacks , considering that the

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Houthis might not recognize those as

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aid ships versus commercial ships going

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towards Israel . Ok . Thanks Heather

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for the question . I I , well , we

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candid , I missed a bit of the first

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part but um in terms of aid ships

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getting into to the Eastern Med and

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you're talking about aid being

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transported from the floating pier to

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the causeway . Um as we have said

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before , we have assurances from the ID

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F that they would be providing security

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around um around that transport . So

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whether it's uh uh any attacks from any

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group , um The ID F uh of course , will

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be providing that um security in terms

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of um And I I apologies . I , I did

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miss a little bit of the first part of

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your question . Um In terms of any

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posture changes um in the Red Sea ,

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there are no posture changes again ,

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operation , prosperity , Guardian . Um

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Is uh something that continues to work

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every single day in a coalition to

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ensure the freedom of navigation

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through the Red Sea and the Gulf of

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Aden . Um I don't have any posture

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changes to announce today from , from

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the podium . Uh ok . And then last

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question from the phone , I'm happy to

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come back in the room . Uh Jeff Shool

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task and purpose . Thank you . I

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understand the army has launched an

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administrative investigation into staff

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Sergeant Black . Um I'm just um

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curious , does dod have any indications

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that he may have been lured to Russia

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as part of an effort by Russian

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intelligence to detain him . Jeff . I

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appreciate the question . Uh This is

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something that the army is looking into ,

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which is why they've been , uh ,

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they've launched an investigation to

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determine the facts and the

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circumstances of his travel and I just

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don't have anything more to add at this

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time . Uh Happy to come back in the

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room . Ok . We'll do two more show and

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three more media is showing pictures

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that General Carilla is in Egypt . Can

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you tell us what he's doing there ? And

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if he has any other uh schedule , I'd

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refer you to Sam for more details . Um

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I don't have more on his travel . He

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does you , you know , regularly travel

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to the region . I think he was there if

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not last week , the week before . Um ,

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but I don't know his other schedule

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stops , but Sam would be able to

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provide that information , would be

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able to tell me if that's any part of

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uh Director Burns's travel to the to

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Egypt as well today . Not , not to my

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awareness . No . So my question

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about this Israeli invasion of , of

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Rafa , you said it's your understanding ,

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this is a limited operation . It aims

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to or at uh cutting off Hamas

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capabilities or ability to smuggle

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weapons and money . Um However , the

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process of bringing humanitarian aid

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through Rafah is controlled by both

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Egypt and Israel and Israelis do screen

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uh shipments before they get into Rafah .

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Um Were you presented by any

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information from Israel that proves

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that still Hamas has the ability to

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smuggle weapons and money through Rafa

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so far is that international

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organizations including the U and

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Humanitarian and NGOS have been

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complaining about Israel

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measures that are delaying the entry of

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humanitarian aid to through screening

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and other steps . I think we've also

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been very public in our , in our

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process to control them . Let me just

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finish . So , so we've been very public

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and called from this podium from other

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podiums across you know , the inner

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agency that we want to see more

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humanitarian aid get into Gaza . Um It

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was directed by the president , um that

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we set up a maritime corridor to surge

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aid in because not enough is getting in .

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So we also are concerned with how much

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aid is getting in to Gaza . And that's

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also why you've seen Centcom take the

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measures that they have to do these

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airdrops . Um So I , I just , I

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appreciate the question but I think

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also you have to remember that this

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government has been calling for it

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repeatedly . We want to see more um to

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your question on Hamas and being able

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to smuggle weapons . Um

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Unfortunately , I just can't speak to

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the intelligence on that . But what I

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can tell you is that we're continuing

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to monitor the situation on the ground .

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We've been very clear about um any type

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of large scale incursion in Tarafa .

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And we know we know how large that

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population is down there and we know

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how dire the humanitarian situation is .

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So we do not want to see a large scale

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ground incursion in Tarafa . Um Again ,

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we're continuing to monitor what's

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happening on the ground . This just

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happened earlier , you know , early

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hours this morning . Um So I just don't

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have more , more to share at this time .

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So I , I understand and , and your

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point is well taken , I'm not talking

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about the US government effort to bring

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in more uh aid or uh complaining about .

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But this shows the contradiction which

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is to say Israel is in control of what

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flows or does not flow into Gaza

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without controlling Rafah where they

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actually had that incursion or invasion ?

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So are you taking what the Israelis are

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providing you at face value in terms of

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the aim of this operation is to cut off

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their ability to smuggle weapons and

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money or are you going to actually look

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into those allegations ? We believe

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what they are saying that this was a

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limited operation that it was to cut

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off the movement the traffic of

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weapons into Gaza through the Rafah

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crossing . But again , it's something

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that we're going to continue to monitor

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this just happened um , earlier , you

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know , a few hours ago . So , uh let us

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continue to monitor what's happening on

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the ground . Aaron last question with

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Israel , you keep using the word

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ironclad , but now how , how is it such

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an ironclad relationship when we have ,

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um , we're expected to delay the

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shipment of munitions there . So what

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makes it so ironclad now that we're

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delaying shipments ? Well , what makes

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it ironclad ? Erin is since October 7th ?

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You've seen this government surge ,

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humanitarian , security assistance and

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humanitarian support to Israel . Um So ,

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so let me , let me just finish . So

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you've seen us continue to support

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Israel . I don't need to remind you of

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the attack that happened a few weeks

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ago . Um on Israel from Iran where the

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US partnered with Israel and other

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coalition forces to defeat that attack .

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Um Again , I don't have a comment on

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specific cases or shipments . But what

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I can tell you is through our actions

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and through what you've seen since

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October 7th , that's what we mean when

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our commitment to Israel is ironclad

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because we continue to stand by our

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partner and ally in their fight against

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a terrorist organization who continues

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to use civilians as human shields . But

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we also have hard conversations with

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our friends and that's what you

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continue to see the secretary do at his

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level and others across this um across

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the inter agency do as well . So

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yesterday morning , uh with general

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writer , he said that we had not seen a

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detailed plan about Rafa , um was , had

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we seen any plan prior to them uh

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entering Rafa ? Well , as I mentioned ,

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and a few weeks ago , there was a

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delegation that was here that , you

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know , briefed us broadly on their

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plans for Rafa . Um We have continued

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to engage um uh the Israelis and I

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think there was a read out at that time

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from the White House on some of those

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meetings . Um We're continuing to

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engage our Israeli counterparts . I

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just don't have more to share on their

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plans , not the delegation , but

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yesterday before they entered , did we

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know that they were going to go , had

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they talked to Secretary Austin prior

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to entering a couple of hours before ?

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Yeah , I think I answered that , I

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think or , and answered , uh asked that

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question , look , I'm just not going to

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get into private , more details on the

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private conversations between uh

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Secretary Austin and Minister Gallant .

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Um Those conversations do happen often .

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They're frank , they're very direct .

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Um And I'll just leave it at that .

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They're listening to Secretary Austin .

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I do , I do actually think that and ,

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and the reason why is because since the

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beginning , we have seen the Israelis ,

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the ID F make decisions that have been

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influenced and impacted by

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conversations with the secretary and

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other people across this um department

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and the agent , the interagency . Um So

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yes , we do feel like they are

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listening . Ok , thanks everyone .

