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Ok , good afternoon , everybody . I

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want to thank everyone for joining us

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for this kickoff event . As we roll out ,

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President Biden's fy 25 budget request

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for the Department of Defense . This

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afternoon we have joining us at 35th se

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Deputy Secretary of Defense , Kathleen

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Hicks and the 12th vice chairman of the

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Joint Chiefs of Staff , Admiral

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Christopher Grady , Deputy Secretary

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Hicks will provide some opening

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comments and then she'll be followed by

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Admiral Grady who will also provide a

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few comments . Once they're finished ,

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I'll call on members of the audience

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for questions and with that , I'll turn

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it over to Deputy Secretary Hicks .

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Terrific . Thank you to Eric and good

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afternoon to everyone . Um It's really

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a pleasure to be with you here today

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alongside Admiral Grady to discuss

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President Biden's fiscal year 25

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defense budget request . I'd first like

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to take a moment to recognize that as I

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stand before you today , Congress has

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not yet passed the fy 24 defense budget .

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So before I begin , I want to highlight

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how devastating the failure to pass

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last year's budget request is to

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ensuring our national defense and

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global security last year , the

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department released the most strategy

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aligned budget in dod history . It

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allocated critical resources consistent

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with our defense priorities as outlined

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in the 2022 national defense strategy

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and the President's national security

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strategy , we buckled down and did our

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homework . Our primary goal was to

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fortify our national defense against

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emerging and enduring threats to our

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nation and the international order as

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we know it . First and foremost , the

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fy 24 budget treats our pacing

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challenge to the People's Republic of

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China with the urgency . It requires

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directing resources to sustain and

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strengthen us deterrence . It delivers

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a combat credible joint force , one

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aimed at deterring and have called upon

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defeating foreseeable and future

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threats . And it makes a series of

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investments in our most powerful and

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valuable asset are people and ensuring

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that we can recruit , retain , train

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and equip them so that they remain

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resilient , ready and focused on

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fulfilling their mission . Congress's

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inability to pass the Fy 24 budget .

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Holding back much needed funding

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hinders our ability to execute that

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strategy . The department has no way

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around that reality . Instead , we have

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been strapped with a series of

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continuing resolutions . Crs are a

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significant constraint on our ability

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to advance our defense strategy ,

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forcing the department to operate with

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one hand tied behind our back for

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months out of the year . Even as we

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confront new and evolving security

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challenges each and every day , we

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cannot continue this cycle of

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continuing resolutions . We also cannot

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continue punting the ball on our

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supplemental funding request in support

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of Ukraine in its fight against Russian

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aggression . And we cannot continue to

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stall an approved supplemental funding

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for Israel and humanitarian assistance

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in Gaza to help contain the spread of

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conflict and promote regional stability .

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And we cannot pass up on a critical

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opportunity to support our allies and

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partners in the Indo Pacific with

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supplemental funding for foreign

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military assistance and financing . So

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we need Congress to come together . The

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world is watching what we do in this

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moment . It's tracking whether we can

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unite and overcome the headwinds facing

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our national security and our democracy

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and our adversaries in particular are

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observing our willingness to step

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forward for our allies and partners .

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So we must continue to make progress

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critical to rejecting power and

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protecting our people in our republic .

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Progress that will stoke innovation and

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bolster our ability to upgrade our

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systems , acquire new capabilities and

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launch new initiatives , progress that

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increases the resilience and lethality

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of the joint force . Progress that

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advances our multi domain power ,

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strengthening our ability to deter

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strategic attacks against the United

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States , our allies and partners and

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progress that enables us to develop

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capabilities and operational concepts

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needed to deter aggression pace to the

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growing multi domain threat posed by

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the PR C in the Indo Pacific . This

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progress cannot wait . Our nation must

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meet its responsibility to our forces

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to pass on time appropriations so that

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these goals can be realized this year's

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fy 25 defense budget request at

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$849.8 billion would build on

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an advance generational military

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investments we've put in motion over

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the past several years for the fourth

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year in a row . Our budget furthers our

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goals to defend the nation , take care

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of our people and succeed through

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teamwork unlike our prior budgets .

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However , the fy 25 request is capped

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by the Fiscal Responsibility Act

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because of these statutory caps and as

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good stewards of taxpayer dollars , we

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made smart responsible choices to work

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within those limits . The result is a

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strong focus on executability and

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necessary emphasis on near term

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readiness and people investments . But

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to be clear , we must grow the defense

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budget in the out years of our future

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years defense program . If we want to

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achieve the goals of the national

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defense strategy , especially in the

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face of rapid modernization by the PR C .

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Now , budgets are statements of

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priorities and we used a rigorous

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process guided by our strategy to

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arrive at the resourcing determinations .

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We've made that process included close

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dialogue and collaboration among senior

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dod leaders representing every defense

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component , military service and

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combatant command . Together , we

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remained singularly focused on

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identifying the programs and plans that

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best meet the demands of today's war

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fighters and their families while

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making smart investments in the future .

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That's vital because since day one ,

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Secretary Austin and I have emphasized

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the urgency to innovate . One key focus

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in innovation is overcoming

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institutional challenges that inhibit

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our ability to accelerate delivery of

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critical capabilities to the war

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fighter at speed and scale . That's the

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goal of replicator including its first

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focus area on all domain triable

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autonomous systems and many similar

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initiatives the department has underway .

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So even under the fy 25 cap , we

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continue to make investments in basic

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research , advanced technology

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experimentation , artificial

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intelligence and cyber and space

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capabilities . And we are committed to

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robust procurement , sending strong

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market signals to industry . Take for

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instance , space last year , our

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investments in space capabilities were

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the largest ever . The fy 25 budget

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continues . The department's commitment

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to space investing nearly $34 billion

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to keep space safe for military ,

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civilian and commercial operations in

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support of our first ever national

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defense industrial strategy were

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increasing investments in casting and

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forging more than double that of last

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year . Other key investments focus on

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strengthening our munitions and defense

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industrial base and improving the

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resilience of our supply chains so that

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we can deliver what our war fighters

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need when they need it . For example ,

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the fy 25 budget request makes an

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historic investment in the submarine

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industrial base to increase production

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and reduce backlogs will continue to

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work together to increase munitions

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investments . And I appreciate

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Congress's partnership in ensuring that

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we have the authorities . We need to

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get the right capabilities in the hands

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of our war fighters , allies and

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partners . Top of their list is

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Multiyear Procurement Authority , which

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is a proven and powerful tool to meet

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immediate threats , support the defense

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industrial base and surge and maintain

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munitions procurements . We've awarded

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our first four multiyear procurement

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contracts . We've made significant

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investments in the munitions industrial

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base and we know that multiyear

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procurement will be even more effective

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when we receive appropriations that

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allow us to move out on these

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authorities . Our investments will go

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toward deepening our relationship with

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our allies and partners . And these

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robust investments reflect our nation

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at our best , sparking innovation

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leading with our allies and partners

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and defending our democracy against

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those forces that would do us harm our

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fy 25 budget request also upholds our

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commitment to our people , the service

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members , military families and

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civilians who work tirelessly to defend

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this nation day in and day out . As

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Secretary Austin said our success in

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defending the nation and maintaining

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readiness is inexorably linked to their

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success . That's why this budget

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focuses on their economic stability and

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family support . The cores of our

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taking care of people initiatives . The

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budget funds must pay items related to

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quality of life and quality of service

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such as a 4.5% pay raise for our

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service members that builds on raises

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for the past three years in a row ,

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including last year's 5.2% pay raise .

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With this budget , our service members

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will have received an 18% increase in

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base pay during this administration .

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But we know that competition

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compensation excuse me about is about

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more than just pay . It's about

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increasing the number of child

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development centers where military

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families can educate their Children and

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the number of providers in those

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centers . It's about the conditions on

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ships and in barracks . It's about what

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we're doing to build healthy and

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resilient communities and that's why

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the must pay items in this budget also

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include basic housing allowance ,

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increases facility investments in safe

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quality family housing to enhance

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deterrence and improve critical

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operational infrastructure , making

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health care , healthy food and child

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care more accessible including

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increasing pay for childcare providers

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and building a safer workplace ,

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including efforts to combat sexual

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assault and to prevent suicide and

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eliminate barriers to care . All must

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haves not nice to haves that enable our

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total force to thrive so that they

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maintain focus on their mission and it

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doesn't end there . We are only able to

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successfully defend the nation because

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of the support of the American people .

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We work to earn and maintain their

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trust each and every day by being good

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stewards of taxpayers hard earned

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dollars . And we know that a good

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measure of trust lies in our progress

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toward a clean audit . I'm proud to

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highlight that several weeks ago , the

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US Marine Corps became the first

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military service to achieve a clean

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audit , the level of rigor and

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discipline and teamwork involved in

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achieving this milestone serves as a

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model for teams across the department

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moving forward and brings us one step

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closer to achieving an overall clean

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report by 2027 . As required by law ,

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we will continue to improve our

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performance and optimize our processes ,

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practices and systems across the

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department to deliver the nation's

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warfighter and taxpayers as effectively

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and efficiently as possible . This

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budget advances our nation's defense in

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the face of an historically challenging

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strategic resource and operational

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environment . Our military readiness

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depends on our ability to pass timely

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appropriations , fy 24 fy 25 and every

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year thereafter . So I cannot emphasize

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this enough . We need predictable ,

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adequate , sustained and timely funding ,

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full stop . We cannot afford any more

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lost time time that we cannot buy back .

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So we urge Congress to work together to

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pass this budget request and last

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year's and the national security

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supplemental too , with the requisite

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urgency that our nation's defense

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demands with the right tools and timely

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resources . We can meet all of our well

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established defense priorities and

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outpace our competitors as we've so

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carefully planned and together we will

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thank you . Thank you , Secretary Hicks

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and thank you for your leadership . So ,

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on behalf of the chairman and the joint

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force , welcome here to this briefing

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today . And it is a privilege to

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represent the 2.1 million total force ,

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soldiers , sailors , airmen , marines

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and Guardians . As we discussed , the

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Department of Defense's fiscal year

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2025 president's budget request like

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our fy 23 and 24 submissions . Before

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this , we are approaching the fy 25

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budget request with our national

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defense strategy and our national

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military strategy . At the front of our

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mind as our north star , our

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$849.8 billion budget pride prioritizes

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national security through integrated

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deterrence , campaigning and building

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enduring advantages to ensure that the

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joint force is able to defend the

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homeland deter strategic attacks and

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aggression all while positioning the

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joint force to prevail in conflict if

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necessary . Our strategy driven

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approach is focused on the security

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challenges of today while also

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modernizing the joint force to meet the

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challenges of tomorrow . Delivering on

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the strategic discipline that is at the

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heart of the national military strategy

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for integrated deterrent . The fy 25

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budget requests funds critical to uh

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investments in our national enterprise

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that nuclear enterprise and missile

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defense along with space capabilities

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which will allow the joint force to

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address key modernization priorities

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while also ensuring that we build the

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capabilities to support critical kill

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webs . And it continues to invest in

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priority areas that will enable the

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department to strengthen our cyberspace

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activities and to expand our long range

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fires capabilities to support

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campaigning . The department is

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investing in readiness initiatives for

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operations , training and maintenance

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while also prioritizing exercises and

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experimentation that will allow the

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joint force to support our critical

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theaters including indo paycom and

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Europe we do this through investments

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in things like missile defense ,

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resilient , communications and

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interoperability initiatives . So

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critical with our allies and partners ,

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the joint force also looks to build out

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our enduring advantages . This includes

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investing in our people , the center of

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the universe . It is also a means for

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us to continue to fund in invasion

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through replicator and other efforts .

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Meanwhile supporting the defense

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industrial base and supply chains ,

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using multi year procurement

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authorities reduces costs and provides

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a consistent demand signal to our

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industry partners as we still await the

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fy 24 appropriations , I want to

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reiterate that the joint force is best

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positioned to maintain and build on our

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enduring advantages . When we receive

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sufficient , timely sustained and

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predictable funding and a return to

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predictable and routine resourcing will

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help ensure that the joint force

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continues to meet the nation's national

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security needs . Our current strategic

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advantage gives us confidence against

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any adversary but our competitors and

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our adversaries have not stopped

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advancing their capabilities . So we

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must continue to adapt , advance and

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innovate at speed and at scale across

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all domains , prioritizing China as the

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pacing challenge and Russia as an acute

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threat . Our strategy driven budget

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does exactly that it recognizes the

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need to invest in key areas to

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translate the national defense strategy .

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The national military strategy and the

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joint war fighting concept into

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operational capabilities required to

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deter our strategic competitors while

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resourcing our strategy and making the

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necessary investments . The joint force

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can and will remain the most capable

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force in the world for decades to come .

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So , thank you for joining us today ,

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madam secretary . Thank you for your

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leadership and your words today . And

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again , it is my distinct privilege to

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be here and represent the commitment

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and the dedication of our entire joint

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force . Ok . Now we'll go to questions

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Tara up from a P HI , Secretary Hicks .

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I wanted to first ask about Ukraine , a

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senior defense official who briefed us

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in advance of this budget said that dod

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is actually about $10 billion in the

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hole when it comes to Ukraine . And I

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wanted to get your thoughts on how do

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you replenish that ? How do you get the

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munition stocks back to where they need

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to be without a supplemental ? And if

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we go into another cr um and then uh

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for admiral Grady , um I wanted to see

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if you could just talk , talk to us

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about the readiness impact of having

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yet another cr on ship availability on

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squadrons , getting flight hours , the

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real life impacts that uh you see in

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the forces . Uh So , uh thanks very

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much on the issue of the supplemental

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and in particular , the $10 billion

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replenishment that would be provided

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for under that supplemental . Um We

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don't foresee a uh likely alternative

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outside of uh the supplemental funding

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or having that money added into an

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appropriation bill in order to achieve

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uh the replenishment that we need . So

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we are absolutely laser focused right

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now on , on making the case to the

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American people about the need for that

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supplemental , about the $50 billion

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roughly of investment that flows back

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to the US economy um and supports

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businesses large and small throughout

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the country . Um And also helps warm up

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our industrial base for our own war

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fighters so that they can get the

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munitions they need in a timely manner

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when crises arise . So what happens if

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you don't get the replenishment , you

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don't get the 10 billion , we don't get

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the 10 billion . We would have to find

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other means . Uh We , right now , we're

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very much focused on the need for that

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supplemental . Yeah , continuing

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resolutions are always a challenge and

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uh and certainly it , it , it requires

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us to make difficult decisions going

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forward . You're very familiar with

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things like new starts and how it might

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impact uh personnel initiatives or , or ,

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or shipbuilding and ship maintenance .

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As you , as you point out munitions

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production , replenishment , those kind

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of things um as to our ability to

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maintain readiness . Um as the deputy

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said , readiness and what we need to

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fight tonight remains at the forefront

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of uh of our budget deliberations uh

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this year and I'm pretty confident that

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we will be able to maintain thing ,

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things like uh flying hours and uh and

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ship depot maintenance going forward .

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We have to keep a really close eye on

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it though , because sometimes that

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becomes a bill payer . Uh Thanks to the

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secretary and the chairman that has not

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to this point . And uh we'll , we'll

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watch it very closely . We'll go to

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Mike Stone from Reuters . Next thanks .

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Um uh madam secretary ,

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I don't see a line in this budget for

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replicator . Can you tell us uh what's

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gonna be spent this year next year on

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project replicator ? And for Admiral

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Grady , can you tell us the top two

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things that China should take note of

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in this budget ? Uh There's a huge

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increase , for instance , in um long

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range anti ship missiles . Are there

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other things that we should look at as ,

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as sending a signal to deter China ?

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Sure . So um I , as I've said publicly

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before the level of effort spending to

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think about and replicator in fy 24 is

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around uh 500 million in an fy 25 is

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around 500 million . That's sort of the

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sum total of what we anticipate . This

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is a pathfinder . It's largely about

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reducing barriers inside our system in

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a process that the vice chairman and I

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run . Um But obviously there are

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dollars associated with getting the

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actual um uh thousands on the 18 to 24

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month timeline out the door . It is my

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um uh fervent view that uh follow on to

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that is a significant investment

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potential that is not about replicator .

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That is about what the services are

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gonna be able to do on autonomy once

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we're able to lower those barriers

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through that initial investment . So I

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I think any adversary should look at

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the budget and notice at least three or

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four things . The first is the

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continued sustainment of funding for

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the uh nuclear enterprise and the

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reprioritization and uh modernization

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of the nuclear triad that shows you our

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strong commitment to the importance of

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that of that mission area . Secondly ,

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is space . Um The Deputy secretary

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talked about that . Um And as we think

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to the future and where we're going to

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win , I think it would become one of

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our great uh uh asymmetric advantages

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along with the undersea . So I would

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look hard at what we're doing in space .

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Um And then uh I guess the third one

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would be the readiness that I just

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talked about 100 and 47 billion out of

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849 . That's a big chunk of money and

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readiness . So we are ready right now

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uh for a fight tonight . OK , Tony

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Cacio Bloomberg . One quick question .

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There's $500 million for Taiwan . It's

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the first time ever PD A . Can you talk

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a little bit about the rationale for it ?

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Is it a message to China and why 500

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million versus some other larger figure

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for Adam o'grady is the head of the JR ?

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Were there any in the joint

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requirements Oversight Council ? Were

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there any investments that you're , you

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pushed in the 25 budget to reflect

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lessons from the Ukraine War that the

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United States needs to counter . So on .

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Um presidential driving on authority

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for Taiwan , we were provided authority

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um in the 24 NDA A um I believe uh uh

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24 . Um And so this was our first

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opportunity the 25 budget to be on

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cycle to put forward funding in support

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of that authority . Um We believe 500

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million is executable . It represents a

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strong uh down payment on the

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authorized level . And o obviously fits

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with , we need to fit within the , the

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Fiscal Responsibility Act cap . So

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that's how we got to the amount there .

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What it will do for us is allow us uh

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just as the uh replenish for Ukraine

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allows us , it provides that backfill

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for the services for anything that we

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provide to Taiwan . We then would be

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able to look at how to keep ourselves

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ready in those same areas . So that 500

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million will allow us to backfill

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ourselves for um items that we might

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provide to Taiwan . Yeah , lots to

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learn from uh what's happening in

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Ukraine right now . Um And as you know ,

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the J Rock takes a look at all of those

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things and they make recommendations

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based on capability gaps that we might

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assess . We don't necessarily direct

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funding , it can't direct funding , but

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we identify uh gaps in which then can

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be lead to requirements . I think too

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that I would point to you are uh both

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manned and unmanned systems . Um

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And uh particularly in the unbanned

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systems , how we deliver effects on the

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battlefield , whether they're ISR so

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sensing on the battlefield or then

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delivering kinetic and un uh non

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kinetic effects . Both of those then

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are something I think we're really

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learning um in the , in the situation

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in Ukraine and oh , by the way , it

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isn't just in one domain , it's across

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all domains to include the maritime

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being funded , any investments in this

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budget , you could point to reflecting

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on what you just said . Yeah , I think

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what uh uh if , if you were to lurk the

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work of the uh of the joint counter UAs

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office and the work that they're doing

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to uh which is also playing out in uh

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in the situation in the Middle East ,

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you can see where those requirements

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are translating into how we think about

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that . Fight Louis Martinez from ABC ,

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please . I'm Secretary um Chairman

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Rogers is already out with a statement

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saying that while this budget keeps up

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with the Fiscal Responsibility Act , uh

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he says it's not keeping pace with

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inflation uh as a top line . And with

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four adversaries , I'd just like to get

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your thoughts on that because he's

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looking forward um as as to future that

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actually the way this budget is

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structured right now uh puts us at a

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disadvantage in the future . And A I'd

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like to ask you about uh the Red Sea

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operations . Uh What is the current

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burn rate for operations there ?

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Because if you already have , let's say

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more than 200 uses of million , excuse

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me , 200 uses of missile anti missile

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systems . Um How uh how are you able to

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replenish that in the future ? Uh Given

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all the other constraints that you're

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under for Ukraine as well ? Ok . So the

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Fiscal Responsibility Act is the law .

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Um We also think it represents an

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opportunity to get timely

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appropriations . And as I commented

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here , that's our priority uh on time

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adequate appropriate um um

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appropriations , the uh back and forth

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over top line inevitably will occur

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over the course of the , the coming

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congressional cycle . We obviously look

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forward to engaging Congress . Um But I

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just really have to stress what we

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believe in , in this department ,

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whatever can get us to actually a

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bipartisan agreement that produces

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appropriations is high priority for us .

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So if that's the fr A , um and as I

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said , it is already the law that is

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absolutely fine with us . I will also

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stress , as I said in my comments , we

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believe we need out year growth that ,

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that fr A for 25 we can make the

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strategy work um As long as we can

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realize that out year growth , um

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particularly for some of the longer

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term investments that we have to grow

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capabilities . For example , after 2030

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capabilities that would produce after

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2030 . Yeah , thank you . Uh The

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situation of the Red Sea is a dynamic

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one as you know , I'm sure you've been

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following it . Um , you talk about , uh ,

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the , uh , munitions expenditure rate .

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So certainly something that we , uh ,

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we watch very closely , very proud of

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the , of the work of your joint force

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at sea . Um , and , and what they have

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been able to do to protect shipping and ,

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uh , and really to back up the

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international rules based order there

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and freedom of navigation as to the as

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to the burn rate . I see we won't get

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into the specifics of , you know , what

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we're shooting and how much suffices to

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say I'm very comfortable that we have

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enough of what we need and that we are

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a learning organization . And so as we

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apply the concepts of defense in depth ,

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it isn't always an expense of SM two

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missile they could shot at a UAs we've

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learned how to use other systems , uh

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and , uh have rapidly adjusted to , uh ,

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uh this concept of defense att . Um And

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that's what gives me great confidence

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that we'll be able to sustain that as

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long as it takes to change the calculus

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over there . Ok . We're about out of

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time . So I think we're gonna wrap it

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up right there . I do appreciate

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everybody for coming , uh , for coming .

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And I wanna thank , uh , Deputy

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Secretary Hicks and vice chairman , uh ,

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Grady as well . Thank you very much .

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Thank you .

