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First , let me say what a pleasure it

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is to be here in Brazil , uh first in

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Brasilia now here in uh in Rio . And as

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I think many of , you know , this is

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the 2/100 anniversary , this year of

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diplomatic relations between the United

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States and Brazil , something that we

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will be highlighting and celebrating

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throughout the rest of the year . It's

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exactly a year ago that the President

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and President Lula met . And

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I think one of the things that stood

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out from that meeting was a common

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desire , a common objective , a common

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goal to leave the next generation , a

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better future . Those were President

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Lula's words . It's also President

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Biden's commitment . And I think what

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we're seeing in so many different areas

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is the United States and Brazil working

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closely together to do just that . Um I

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had the pleasure and privilege of

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spending some time with President Lula

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yesterday in Brasilia . I'm grateful to

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him for the time that he dedicated end

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to the depth and richness of the

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conversation we had . And as I

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reflected on what we talked about so

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much of it was this common agenda

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between our countries to try to build

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effectively a better future for our

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people , focusing on the areas and on

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the issues that really have an impact

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in their daily lives . We're all seized

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with the obligation of contending with

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the one existential threat to humanity

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and that's climate change . And our

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countries have been leaders on that .

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Of course , the the rainforest , the

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Amazon is one of the world's greatest

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natural resources when it comes to

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actually effectively dealing with

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climate change carbon emissions .

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President Lula put it this way when he

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was at the White House with President

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Biden to take care of the Amazon

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rainforest . Today is to take care of

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the planet Earth and to take care of

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the planet Earth is to take care of our

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own survival . I don't think anyone

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could put it any better . So the United

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States is working side by side with

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Brazil to support its efforts to

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preserve the rainforest to combat

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deforestation . We're putting resources

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into that . We're engaged with many

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other countries around the world to

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encourage them to participate and with

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Usaid and other organizations in the US

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government . We're working in very

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practical concrete ways to help with

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support the management and preservation

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of the rainforest . In 2025 Brazil will

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head up the COP cop 30 in Belem . This

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is a very important opportunity to

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advance progress on the many different

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ways in which all of us are dealing

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with climate change . And we applaud

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Brazil's leadership . Another area

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where Brazil is leading and the United

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States has partnered with Brazil is on

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dealing with the challenge of food

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insecurity and global hunger . Here .

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I'm proud of the fact that the United

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States has invested billions of dollars

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over the last few years . Both to deal

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with emergency situations that we face

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the world has faced as a result of

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climate change COVID and conflict

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including Russia's aggression against

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Ukraine . Since 2021 the United States

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has invested $17.5 billion in trying to

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support food security for people around

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the world . But it's not only the

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emergency assistance that counts . And

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I discussed this with , with President

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Lula . It's the work we are doing to

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invest in productive capacity around

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the world for countries from Africa to

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Latin America to well beyond that is

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the answer to the , the challenge of

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food insecurity . We have many

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initiatives underway that are doing

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just that adapting our agricultural

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systems , our food production systems

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with Brazil , we have a partnership to

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bring artificial intelligence and other

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technologies to improve the soil in

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countries . And one of the things that

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we found and is at the heart of one of

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our own major new initiatives vex our

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vision for adapted crops and soil is

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when you have resilient and nutritious

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seeds , resilient to climate change and

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other extreme weather patterns . When

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you have strong soil , anything is

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possible . And this initiative with

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Brazil is working to do just that . And

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that means that what we then put into

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the ground on top of the , the seeds

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and soil like fertilizer will be much

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more effective . So we're working to

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develop crops that use nutrients , more

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efficiently , more effectively ,

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lowering costs , lowering dependencies

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and at the same time , lowering

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emissions , it's joined with climate

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change . So another powerful example of

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where our two countries are working

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together in common purpose . And then

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of course , President Biden , President

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Lula are joined profoundly by their

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commitment to protecting worker rights ,

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to defending and strengthening labor

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around the world . I think both

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presidents see it the same way workers

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labor are at the heart of our successes

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as countries . We are both building

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economies from the bottom up and the

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middle out here again , the partnership

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for workers' rights that the two

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presidents signed , stopping worker

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exploitation , focusing on forced labor

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on child labor , promoting rights

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around the world . Here again , our

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countries are joined and we have a

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joint action plan as well to eliminate

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racial and ethnic discrimination and

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promote equality , equitable access to

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education , to health care , to justice ,

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particularly for people of African and

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indigenous origin . I mention all of

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this because it was really at the heart

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of the conversation that I had with

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President Lu yesterday . And aspects

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are also at the heart of the G 20

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agenda which Brazil is leading . And

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the other main purpose of this visit

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was to take part in a meeting with the

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Foreign Ministers led by Foreign

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Minister of Y to prepare the agenda for

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the leaders when they have the meeting

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of the G 20 leadership toward the end

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of this year . Here again , Brazil and

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the United States are working very

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closely together as partners and it's

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the United states' purpose in this to

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support and make a success of Brazil's

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presidency of the G 20 . Um in all of

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the areas of focus that Brazil has set

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forward , whether again it comes to

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advancing the rights of , of workers

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and laborers , whether it comes to

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dealing with climate change , food

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security , whether it comes to

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reforming the institutions that shape

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how countries interact around the world .

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We are working hand in hand with Brazil

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on that . Now , the scope , the

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scale of some of these global

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challenges is immense and I know that

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there are times when it feels like

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those challenges are outpacing our

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collective capacity to tackle them .

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But I think what the G 20 can

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demonstrate , it's demonstrated in the

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past and I believe it will demonstrate

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it in the future is that no , we

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actually do have the capacity when

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we're working together to effectively

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meet the moment to meet the challenges

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that we're facing to actually address

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the needs of the people that we

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represent the United States for its

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part is working to do that . And we had

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some discussion of these issues in the

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context of the G 20 on Ukraine , there

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is a strong palpable desire among

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virtually all of the G 20 for the

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Russian aggression to end and for peace

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to prevail in a way that upholds the

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rights of Ukrainians to their freedom ,

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to their future , to the territorial

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integrity of their country . And that

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was very clear in the meetings that ,

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that we had over the last two days ,

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the conflict in Gaza between Israel and

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Hamas , we're focused intensely on

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trying to get an agreement that results

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in the release of the remaining

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hostages and that produces an extended

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humanitarian cease fire . And again ,

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those are goals that I think virtually

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everyone in the G 20 shares , Haiti an

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area that is close to home and close to

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the hearts of Americans and Brazilians

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alike . We see a situation that

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continues to deteriorate particularly

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when it comes to the profound

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insecurity as a result of gangs that

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are running rampant , not only in

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Porter Au Prince , but increasingly

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beyond . We see a state that's on the

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verge of becoming a failed state and

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the result is that people are suffering

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tremendously , not only from the

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violence , including sexual violence ,

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but just from the inability to get the

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basic necessities of life . Today , we

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had a meeting that involved a number of

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countries , all of whom will be

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contributing to the mission to help

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provide renewed security for Haiti that

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was endorsed by the United Nations last

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fall and that we're now making making

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real . We have a commitment from Kenya

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to lead this effort in support of the

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Haitian National Police . And today we

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had a , as I said , a meeting with ,

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well , more than a dozen countries ,

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each of whom is contributing or plans

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to contribute significantly to this

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mission , with personnel , with

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equipment , with training and with

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financial resources . And I think today

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we had at least another $120 million

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committed to that effort . We're

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working together to deal with irregular

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migration . A challenge that countries

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around the world are facing in this

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moment . This is simply put a

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challenge of historic proportions . We

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see more people on the move now around

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the planet , not only in our own

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hemisphere but around the planet , more

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people than ever before since we've

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been recording these numbers . But here

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again , we're working collectively to

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try to address the challenge and then

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in so many other places around the

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world where there is a conflict where

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there is insecurity . Ah the United

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States working with other countries is

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trying to make a change and trying to

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make a difference whether it's in Sudan ,

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whether it's in Eastern DRC , Ethiopia ,

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Somalia . Ah we're working in all of

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these places to try to deal with

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insecurity and also more broadly in

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Africa with a very strong affirmative

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agenda which I was able to highlight on

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my recent visit . Finally , beyond

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security , we are putting together new

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coalitions of countries and

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organizations to meet shared challenges

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in new ways . We have a global

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partnership now to direct investment in

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infrastructure in ways that uh create a

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race to the top , not a race to the

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bottom to make sure that as we pursue

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infrastructure projects in countries

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around the world and direct investment

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in that direction , we're doing it in a

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way that doesn't saddle countries with

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debt that respects the rights of

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workers , the environment .

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Transparency . that coalition including

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here in Brazil is increasingly focused

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on concrete projects and putting the

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resources into them . We have countries

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well , more than 100 countries that

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have come together to meet a global

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methane pledge , the largest single

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contributor to global warming to cut

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emissions by 30 methane emissions by

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30% by 2030 . That will have a powerful

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impact . And as I've discussed many

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times , we now have a global coalition

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to deal with what is now the number one

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killer of Americans at age 18 to 49

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synthetic opioids in the case of the

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United States fentaNYL . But in the

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case of many other countries , we see

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methamphetamines , we see ketamine . We

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see traMADol . This is one of the new

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challenges that increasingly countries

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around the world are being attentive to

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because they need to be . And this was

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also a subject at the G 20 . Finally ,

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even as we're trying to work on issues

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of peace and security , even as we're

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dealing with these broad transnational

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challenges that no one country can

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effectively deal with alone . We also

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have to be reinvesting in and updating

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the international institutions that

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bring us all together to deal with

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these challenges . That was the subject

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of today's session of the G 20 . We

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have to have institutions that are more

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reflective of the world as it is today ,

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not the world as it was when these

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institutions were created . Most of

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them . 80 years ago , we have to have

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institutions that are more responsive

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and more effective in meeting the

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challenges of today . So the United

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States has been leading in these

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efforts too . We're leading the effort

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to expand the United Nations Security

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Council , both in terms of permanent

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and non permanent members so that it

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better reflects today's world , today's

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realities . We're looking and working

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to sharpen the UN s focus on the most

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critical emerging issues of the day and

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emerging opportunities . Starting with

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artificial intelligence . The

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resolution that we have before the

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United Nations General Assembly is a

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way to set a foundation to make sure

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that artificial intelligence is used in

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a way that is safe , that's trustworthy

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and that actually advances progress on

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issues that matter to people including

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achieving the sustainable development

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goals . We're working to make the

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international financial institutions

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more responsive , more effective , more

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efficient in ways that create access to

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capital for countries that need it to

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concessional financing and to dealing

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with the huge debt burdens that so many

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countries face . We're amplifying the

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voice of emerging markets and

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developing countries throughout these

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institutions . And we're working as

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well to mobilize private capital , to

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make sure that it's directed the right

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places in the right ways , in all of

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these ways , the United States is

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helping to lead the effort to make sure

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that the institutions that bring us

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together and where we're working

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together are more reflective of today's

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world and more effective in meeting its

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challenges . This is in so many

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ways , a moment of tremendous testing

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for all of us in the more than 30 years

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that I've been engaged in these issues

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in government . I can't think of a time

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when there's been a greater

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multiplicity , a greater complexity , a

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greater interconnectedness of the

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challenges we're facing . And I think

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that only underscores the importance of

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doing more than ever before in working

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together in cooperating , in

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coordinating and communicating the

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powerful reality is this no one country

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alone has the capacity to deal with

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these challenges effectively . But when

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we work together , when we focus our

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efforts on common goals , I think we've

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demonstrated in the past and we will

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demonstrate in the future that there's

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nothing we can't actually achieve .

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Thank you . We'll first go

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to Courtney mcbride from Bloomberg News .

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Courtney , I'm getting my pen out in

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case there are multiple questions and

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I'll try to keep it brief and onto one

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topic . Mr Secretary . Thanks despite

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the US and other countries' efforts to

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isolate Russia which yesterday you

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called the world's leading exporter of

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instability . It remains actively

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engaged on the global stage including

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with Foreign Minister Lavrov's

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participation in this week's

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ministerial . Um So how does that fact

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complicate efforts to respond

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collectively to global challenges and

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how did it affect this week's meetings

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and then continuing on Russia . Um

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President Biden said that new sanctions

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are coming tomorrow in connection with

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the two year anniversary of the full

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scale invasion of Ukraine as well as

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the death of Alexei Navalny . The

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Kremlin reportedly has warned Navalny's

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widow not to return to Russia and his

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mother is complaining that the Russian

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government is pressuring her into a

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secret burial . How did the US and its

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allies and partners hope to influence

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or alter Russia's behavior when

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previous sanctions have not had that

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effect and further is a state sponsor

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of terrorism designation , possible way

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to further influence Russia . Thank you .

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Thanks . So first , I think

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again , if you were in the room over

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the last two days when it came to , for

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example , the discussions that we had

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about the Russian aggression against

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Ukraine and not just against Ukraine

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against the very principles that at the

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heart of the international system that

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we were here to talk about and

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hopefully to strengthen . I think if

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you're in that room as Foreign Minister

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Lavrov was you heard a very strong

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chorus coming from , not as I said ,

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not just the G7 countries within the G

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20 . But for many others as well about

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the imperative of ending the Russian

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aggression , restoring peace , making

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sure that Ukrainians are the ones who

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decide their own future , preserving

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the territorial integrity of the

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country . Um That's increasingly clear .

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So I think , um , in a sense , uh it's

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actually quite a useful reminder

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to Russia about what virtually the

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entire world thinks of this aggression

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and the strong desire to see it end .

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And again , there are two reasons for

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that . One is the fact that it's an

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aggression against the , the principles

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at the heart of the system . The other

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is that it's had consequences for

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countries and people around the world ,

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rising food prices , rising energy

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prices that have afflicted people uh

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largely because of this Russian

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aggression . Now we've been able to

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address that in increasingly effective

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ways , including Ukraine by pushing the

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Russian Navy back and getting access to

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the Black Sea . Again , exports to the

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Black Sea from Ukraine now exceed what

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they were before the Russian aggression

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in February of 2022 . But I think

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countries around the world are seeing

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the impact it's having on them . And

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it's another reason they want it to

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stop in terms of

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new measures and additional sanctions ,

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stay tuned , they will be

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forthcoming . And I just say this about

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Mr Navalny , someone

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truly heroic in his life in

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his work . But the fact that

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Vladimir Putin saw it necessary to

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persecute poison and in prison , one

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man speaks volumes . Not

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about Russia's strength under Putin ,

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but its weakness . And I think again ,

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countries around the world , including

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in the G 20 were very clear about what

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they thought about what happened to

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Mister Navalny . We'll go to Fernando

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David with Band TV .

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Hello , Mr Secretary . Uh , it's a

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pleasure to have the opportunity of

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address you . Uh , I'd like to

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ask you what is your personal opinion ,

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not the United States but yours , Mr

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Blink about uh President Lula's

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statement comparing the situation in

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Gaza with the Holocaust . And in

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addition , if you believe that this

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kind of statement could spoil frustrate

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the Brazil government plans of uh

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presented at these uh two days

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of G 20 especially uh

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the deep changes proposed in the Un

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Security Council with the inclusion of

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another countries such as Brazil .

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Thank you . Thank you very much . First ,

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let me repeat something . I said a few

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minutes ago , the quality of

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the conversation , the exchange with

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President Lula , I on behalf of the

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United States could not have been more

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pleased with . And I'm grateful to him

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for all of the time , he dedicated to

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our meeting , but also again , the

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substance of it . And as I said , we

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were focused almost entirely on the

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very important and powerful common

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agenda that the United States and

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Brazil share when it comes to the big

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challenges of our , of our moment and

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doing so in ways that improves the

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lives of people in Brazil , the United

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States and uh and around the world ,

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that was almost the entirety of uh of

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our conversation . And it's reflective

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of the fact that in so many ways , the

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the vision that President Lula brings

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is the same vision that President Biden

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has . And as a representative of

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President Biden , my purpose was really

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to continue to , to deepen that common

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approach and continue to look at

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practical ways we can , we can advance

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it now . We also have differences on

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some issues in the way we , we approach

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them . And on this particular

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question , obviously , the , the

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comparison of Gaza to the holocaust ,

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we profoundly disagree , but that's

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also something that friends do . We can

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have these disagreements , even

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profound disagreements on one

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particular issue or , or I should say

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even an aspect of the issue and still

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continue all of the vital work that

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we're doing together . And also we're

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joined in having the , the shared

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objectives in this moment of getting

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hostages out , getting an extended

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humanitarian , cease fire in along with

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more humanitarian assistance and ending

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the conflict . That's a shared

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objective . So I think it's important

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to know that was the the nature of our

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conversation of our exchange . And

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we're committed , we remain committed

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to advancing our common agenda both

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between the United States and Brazil

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directly , as well as through Brazil's

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leadership of the G 20 . We'll go to

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Simon Lewis with Reuters .

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Um Thank you , um Secretary Lincoln .

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Um I wanted to ask a little bit of uh

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more on the , on the Gaza question . Um

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coming to the G 20 meetings last year ,

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uh You were able to kind of garner

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widespread support from members of the

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G 20 with your position on Russia . Um

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you know , even citing un charter

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principles um that were being breached

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by the invasion of Ukraine this year ,

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we got most of the members of the G 20

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or many members of the G 20 are calling

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for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza in

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contradiction with your own position .

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You know , highlighted by the fact that

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the US was , was forced to use a veto

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at the UN um on that issue . So

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comparing that last year to this year ,

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uh is your support for Israel and its

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war leaving you isolated uh and has it

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put you on the back foot ? Um And in a

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related couple of points , um there

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are continuing warnings over the

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humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza ,

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deconfliction issues and looting ,

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meaning trucks getting aid in uh may

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get into Gaza , but they don't actually

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reach those in need . WFP has said it's

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suspending crucial food deliveries to

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the north of Gaza and the UN assessment

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mission that you've spoken about uh

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hasn't gone ahead . What are you doing

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to address this dire situation ? And um

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can you say whether Israel is really

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doing all it can to co-operate with

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those efforts . Thank you . Thanks

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Simon . So , first with regard to the

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Un Security Council resolution , it's

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important to start with the , with this

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clear fact and proposition that

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resolution would not in and of itself

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resulted in a cease fire . The question

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before us is what is the most effective

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way to move forward , move forward in a

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way that gets hostages out , gets an

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extended humanitarian , cease fire and

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ultimately leads to the end of the

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conflict . And in our judgment ,

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the best way to do that is to do

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exactly what we're doing right now ,

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which is to work intensely on an

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agreement on the hostages . This is

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something I'm involved in virtually

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every single day , including here

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alongside my colleagues . The CIA

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director , Bill burns the White House

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Middle East coordinator Brett mcgurk .

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We're in constant communication and

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working every aspect of this because

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that is the quickest path , the most

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effective path to get to where everyone

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wants to go , including everyone at the

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G 20 . And as I said , the Security

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Council resolution in and of itself

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would not produce that . And indeed the

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concern that we had with this

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particular resolution was twofold .

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One was the fact that it was actually

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silent as to hostages . Second ,

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the timing of it was such that at the

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very moment when again , the best path

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forward is to see if we can reach an

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agreement on the hostages , anything

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that might in any way

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undermine that confuse that disrupt

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that effort is simply counterproductive

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to what everyone wants to achieve . Now ,

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in terms of what people want to achieve .

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Actually , we all share the same goals .

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Everyone wants to see an end to this

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conflict as soon as possible . Everyone

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wants to see an end to the suffering of

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Children , women and men in Gaza who

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so many innocents who've suffered and

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continue to suffer so terribly who are

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caught in this crossfire of hamas'

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making . We all want to see that end as

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quickly as possible . And I think all

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of us are united in wanting to see

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after Gaza the

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path forward to a genuinely durable ,

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sustainable peace to make sure that

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this never happens again for Israelis

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and never happens again for

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Palestinians . So we're united in that

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and again , in terms of some of the

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particulars , everyone supports trying

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to reach AAA hostage agreement ,

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everyone supports having an extended

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humanitarian cease fire to allow that

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agreement to go forward as well as to

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dramatically increase humanitarian

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assistance . Everyone supports finding

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a way to end the conflict and move to

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this path to a durable solution . So

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I found a lot of commonality on that .

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Now , we again , there may be

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differences over , over tactics

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and there may be there are differences

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over the Security Council resolution .

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But if we're trying to focus on

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actually getting results , actually

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making a change , making a difference ,

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we think what we're focused on is the

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uh the best way to do that in terms of

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assistance getting in . What I can tell

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you is this , there are two things that

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are a challenge . One is actually

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getting the assistance into Gaza . And

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here this is something we've been

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working on pretty much every single day

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over the last four months and over time ,

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we were able first of all to open the

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gates to start to allow assistance in .

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That was a product of our intense

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engagement and diplomacy then to expand

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the places through which assistance was

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getting through , uh as well as to

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expand the assistance itself . All of

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this has taken a lot of sustained work ,

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but it's also accurate that every

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step along the way , we've encountered

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obstacles , we continue to encounter

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them and we're dealing with them . Ah

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virtually every day . Then once

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assistance is inside of Gaza , that's

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not enough because it actually has to

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get to the people who need it and they

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are too . There have been many

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obstacles that we're trying to work

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through every single day , including

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making sure that convoys can proceed in

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a way that ensures the safety of those

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who are conducting them . And that

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means deconfliction , it means

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coordinating and that has been

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insufficient . So we're working to

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improve that as well as to make sure

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that as you pointed out , assistance

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gets not only to people throughout the

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southern part of Gaza , but actually

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gets to the many people who need it who

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remain in the North , some 350,000

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people who will remain above the Wadi

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Gaza . So what I can tell you is this ,

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we are working this quite literally

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every single day through our own envoy

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for assistance . Ambassador David

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Satterfield and his team through the

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work that I and many others in the

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government are doing , engaging with

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the different institutions of the

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United Nations , engaging with the

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Israeli government , with the Egyptians ,

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with the Jordanians . The bottom line

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is this though , we need more aid to

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get in through more places to reach

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more people . That's the bottom line .

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And we want to make sure that we

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deliver on that every single day ,

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we were engaged when an issue

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arises , we tackle it and

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we look to see that there's an adequate

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response . So , you know , you can take

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this issue issue by issue , obstacle by

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obstacle . But what we have seen is

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when we've brought up a problem that's ,

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that's arisen , generally speaking .

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Yes , the the Israelis have engaged it ,

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but we continue to be in a situation

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where again , not enough is getting in

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in the first place and once it's in ,

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it's not effectively getting to

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everyone who needs it that has to be

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addressed . Final question Camilla .

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There are Fula DEA Pala .

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Hi Mr Secretary . Uh before the G 20

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Chancellor's reunion . Russian Foreign

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Minister Lavrov criticized the

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politicization of G 20 for addressing

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issues such as the war in Ukraine . Uh

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How do you see this uh statement ?

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And have you had any conversation with

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Mr Lro during the G 20 meeting or in

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the dinner last night ? Thank you .

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The second part of the question . First ,

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I didn't have any direct conversations

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with Foreign Minister Lavrov , but we

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certainly , well , I heard him speak in

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the meetings and I imagine you heard me

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speak and many others as well . Second ,

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in terms of the so-called politization

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of the , the G 20 I think Foreign

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Minister Viera and a number of other

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colleagues addressed this very

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effectively themselves . If we're not

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able to deal with issues of peace and

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security , then it's going to be if not

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impossible , at least that much harder

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to actually deal with what we're trying

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to accomplish through the G 20 . If you

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have conflict , if you have insecurity ,

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then actually making progress on food

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security , on the energy transition ,

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on dealing with climate change , on

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working to defend and uphold worker

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rights . No , that's either impossible

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or much more difficult . So it's very

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much within the province of the G 20 to

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be talking about these issues and

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hopefully to find common ways forward .

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I think that's what the people that we

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represent expect of us . It's , it's

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actually what pretty much people around

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the world expect of us because the G 20

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even though it represents the world's

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20 largest economies is in many ways

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also representative of the

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entire global majority even countries

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that are not at the G 20 table ,

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although we had a lot of invited

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countries to this session and I applaud

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Brazil for doing that . So , no , I

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think it's clear that this is not the

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politicization of the G 20 . On the

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contrary , we have a responsibility to

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try to come together , find a way

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forward on geopolitical issues that may

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be divisive because if we don't do that ,

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the entire rest of the agenda is going

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to be very , very difficult to achieve .

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Thanks everybody . Thank you . Thank

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you .

