WEBVTT 00:03.880 --> 00:06.102 Master Guns . Thank you for coming in . 00:06.102 --> 00:07.991 Thank you for having me . This is 00:07.991 --> 00:10.810 awesome . Uh So uh I am the development 00:10.819 --> 00:13.399 advisor on this base . And what that is 00:13.409 --> 00:15.590 is as close as I can get it to how the 00:15.600 --> 00:17.920 core is is . I'm my first sergeant . Uh 00:17.930 --> 00:20.152 I don't deal with the problems . I deal 00:20.152 --> 00:22.569 with making sure that they develop both 00:22.579 --> 00:24.690 professionally and personally whether 00:24.690 --> 00:26.746 it is to stay in the military or get 00:26.746 --> 00:28.801 out of the military . Ok , good . Uh 00:28.801 --> 00:31.600 And uh after reading your bio and uh 00:31.610 --> 00:35.360 talking with major about you in general , 00:35.369 --> 00:37.049 uh I had some questions about 00:37.099 --> 00:39.419 specifically like training and 00:39.430 --> 00:42.130 intelligence and how we incorporated 00:42.139 --> 00:45.439 into what we do kind of thing . So my 00:45.450 --> 00:48.200 first question for you , Mr Guns is uh 00:48.209 --> 00:52.020 with Intel getting to 00:52.029 --> 00:54.630 us , what do you think we should be 00:54.639 --> 00:58.159 doing with it ? What I mean by that is 00:58.169 --> 01:01.549 that we get a monthly brief on what is 01:01.560 --> 01:04.050 going on either with certain countries 01:04.059 --> 01:06.790 or just certain policies , you know , 01:06.800 --> 01:09.589 whether it's a balloon in the sky or uh 01:09.599 --> 01:12.330 exercises happening around countries of 01:12.339 --> 01:15.589 interest . Um What should we be doing 01:15.599 --> 01:17.959 as an enlisted force with that ? 01:17.970 --> 01:20.379 Information . Yeah . So a few things , 01:20.389 --> 01:22.720 right . So you have information and 01:22.730 --> 01:24.952 then intelligence , intelligence should 01:24.952 --> 01:26.952 come with a caveat of an analytical 01:26.952 --> 01:30.309 thought or a decision or an idea that 01:30.319 --> 01:32.541 that kind of takes all that information 01:32.541 --> 01:34.875 and says based on everything we've seen , 01:34.875 --> 01:36.930 whether that's open source , whether 01:36.930 --> 01:39.152 that's imagery , signals intelligence , 01:39.152 --> 01:41.263 human intelligence , whatever it is , 01:41.263 --> 01:43.263 here's our analytical assessment of 01:43.263 --> 01:45.375 that . And in terms of the military , 01:45.375 --> 01:47.597 and I would say even far more important 01:47.597 --> 01:50.919 than just an enlisted cop or cadre is 01:50.989 --> 01:53.156 we want to make decisions based on the 01:53.156 --> 01:55.322 intelligence that's out there . So the 01:55.322 --> 01:57.545 air force should be building capability 01:57.599 --> 02:00.160 in order to defeat an adversary that 02:00.169 --> 02:02.225 adversary comes from . We understand 02:02.225 --> 02:04.058 the adversary more based on that 02:04.058 --> 02:06.002 intelligence , same thing with the 02:06.002 --> 02:07.836 Marine Corps or any of the other 02:07.836 --> 02:09.891 services . And so in space command , 02:09.891 --> 02:11.947 what we're focusing on and you often 02:11.947 --> 02:14.058 hear about is we've got to be able to 02:14.058 --> 02:16.113 see characterize and understand that 02:16.113 --> 02:18.336 adversary or that competitor in space . 02:18.336 --> 02:20.280 And so we're trying to get as much 02:20.280 --> 02:22.447 understanding of the domain and making 02:22.447 --> 02:24.391 sure the joint force has a healthy 02:24.391 --> 02:26.558 appreciation and respect for that . So 02:26.558 --> 02:28.558 that when we're doing missions , we 02:28.558 --> 02:28.429 understand where satellite 02:28.440 --> 02:30.860 communications come from . ISR , 02:31.089 --> 02:32.978 surveillance and reconnaissance , 02:32.978 --> 02:34.867 precision navigation and timing . 02:34.867 --> 02:37.119 Anything we do in the armed forces , 02:37.130 --> 02:39.470 the great enabler is space . And so 02:39.479 --> 02:41.646 it's an understanding of that domain . 02:41.646 --> 02:43.479 It's an understanding of all the 02:43.479 --> 02:45.423 domains , air land , sea space and 02:45.423 --> 02:47.423 cyber and the intelligence gives us 02:47.423 --> 02:49.479 that critical information so that we 02:49.479 --> 02:51.257 understand where we need to put 02:51.257 --> 02:50.850 resources , where we need to do 02:50.860 --> 02:52.693 education , training and conduct 02:52.693 --> 02:55.729 exercises so that we're executing and , 02:56.130 --> 02:58.369 and able to deter an adversary or 02:58.380 --> 03:00.580 defeat if we have to . Definitely , 03:00.589 --> 03:02.922 that's awesome . I appreciate that . Uh , 03:02.922 --> 03:04.811 with that in mind , you mentioned 03:04.811 --> 03:08.320 exercises . Um , we , we , when we do 03:08.330 --> 03:10.552 exercises , we're pretty ground pound , 03:10.552 --> 03:12.663 right ? Like you have an objective in 03:12.663 --> 03:14.719 front of you , you either you know , 03:14.719 --> 03:17.690 execute or you avoid usually right , 03:17.699 --> 03:20.380 one facet or another space is a whole 03:20.389 --> 03:22.611 different ball game . And a lot of us , 03:22.611 --> 03:24.667 if we said we're gonna exercise with 03:24.667 --> 03:26.833 space , right ? We don't really have a 03:26.833 --> 03:28.889 way of doing that in your opinion or 03:28.889 --> 03:31.056 based off of what you've seen , how do 03:31.056 --> 03:32.722 you think we should be either 03:32.722 --> 03:35.110 exercising or adjust to incorporate the 03:35.119 --> 03:37.410 space to be with that ? Yeah , we , we 03:37.419 --> 03:39.586 actually do . It may be transparent to 03:39.586 --> 03:41.970 anyone but to your first statement you 03:41.979 --> 03:44.090 made if we have an adversary in front 03:44.090 --> 03:46.201 of us . Well , how do we know that we 03:46.201 --> 03:47.757 likely got that from , from 03:47.757 --> 03:49.757 intelligence ? And that likely came 03:49.757 --> 03:51.757 from a space based capability if we 03:51.757 --> 03:53.979 want to effectively communicate whether 03:53.979 --> 03:56.035 I've got a war fighter on the ground 03:56.035 --> 03:58.830 trying to talk to a pilot to get ground 03:58.839 --> 04:01.080 support , air support , they're likely 04:01.089 --> 04:03.200 using something that requires a space 04:03.200 --> 04:05.145 based terminal . If we're going to 04:05.145 --> 04:07.367 conduct cyber operations , likely we're 04:07.367 --> 04:09.533 going to use a satellite capability in 04:09.533 --> 04:11.700 order to enable that access . So while 04:11.700 --> 04:13.922 we may not see it and feel it and touch 04:13.922 --> 04:16.033 it directly , almost everything we do 04:16.429 --> 04:18.429 to include simple things that we go 04:18.429 --> 04:20.540 through in our daily life , like just 04:20.540 --> 04:22.596 pulling up the phone and doing a gps 04:22.596 --> 04:24.596 and how do I get to a restaurant or 04:24.596 --> 04:27.029 withdrawing money from an ATM all of 04:27.040 --> 04:29.207 that requires space based capability . 04:29.207 --> 04:32.140 And so I think the challenge is on 04:32.149 --> 04:34.205 space command and the space force to 04:34.205 --> 04:35.982 make sure the joint force fully 04:35.982 --> 04:37.880 understands that capability . The 04:37.890 --> 04:40.001 beautiful thing is , is for decades , 04:40.001 --> 04:42.168 we've done so well that many of us can 04:42.168 --> 04:44.390 take it for granted because it's always 04:44.390 --> 04:46.390 been there . But we know we have an 04:46.390 --> 04:48.557 adversary that's put out capability in 04:48.557 --> 04:50.899 a non kinetic , in a kinetic way where 04:50.910 --> 04:53.021 they want to try and deny and degrade 04:53.021 --> 04:55.077 our , our use of space as that great 04:55.077 --> 04:57.243 enabler . And so if we can't use space 04:57.243 --> 04:59.410 based capabilities , this is where the 04:59.410 --> 05:01.466 basics and fundamentals come in . As 05:01.466 --> 05:03.521 non commissioned officers and junior 05:03.521 --> 05:05.688 officers , we're gonna have to be able 05:05.688 --> 05:05.049 to do things like using a map and 05:05.059 --> 05:07.170 compass . We're gonna have to be able 05:07.170 --> 05:09.281 to use tactical communications . If , 05:09.281 --> 05:11.503 if you're in the maritime forces , when 05:11.503 --> 05:13.670 was the last time you executed under m 05:13.670 --> 05:15.726 emissions control ? When is the last 05:15.726 --> 05:17.892 time you use a sextant to navigate all 05:17.892 --> 05:20.059 those basic things that we've done for 05:20.059 --> 05:22.170 centuries , we're going to have to be 05:22.170 --> 05:24.281 able to open up the books and be able 05:24.281 --> 05:26.115 to do that again . So that great 05:26.115 --> 05:28.115 enabler of space has been there and 05:28.115 --> 05:30.281 it's allowed us to fight and win . But 05:30.281 --> 05:32.448 if it's not , we don't have the option 05:32.448 --> 05:31.489 to say , well , we're going to go home 05:31.500 --> 05:33.556 and hide , we're going have to still 05:33.556 --> 05:35.611 fight and win . And those basics and 05:35.611 --> 05:35.320 fundamentals are critical to that . 05:36.940 --> 05:38.829 It's a very good point actually , 05:38.829 --> 05:40.996 especially just the the basics of land 05:40.996 --> 05:42.996 and those kinds of things , right ? 05:42.996 --> 05:45.218 That something we do take for granted , 05:45.218 --> 05:47.384 especially with GPS and those kinds of 05:47.384 --> 05:49.551 things . And it's one , it's one thing 05:49.551 --> 05:51.773 to do that under nice conditions . It's 05:51.773 --> 05:53.829 beautiful out . Right . Right now in 05:53.829 --> 05:53.450 Denberg Space Force space , the sun is 05:53.459 --> 05:55.792 out , but can you do it when it matters ? 05:55.792 --> 05:57.792 Right . So when it's cold and wet , 05:57.792 --> 06:00.070 when you're tired and hungry , uh when , 06:00.070 --> 06:02.237 when rounds are coming down range over 06:02.237 --> 06:04.181 your head , so tough and realistic 06:04.181 --> 06:06.403 training is critical too because likely 06:06.403 --> 06:08.570 we're not going to get a beautiful day 06:08.570 --> 06:10.626 in combat , right . It's going to be 06:10.626 --> 06:12.292 hard , arduous conditions and 06:12.292 --> 06:14.515 challenging conditions . We're going to 06:14.515 --> 06:13.929 have to fight our way through that , 06:14.730 --> 06:16.786 especially if we're looking at doing 06:16.786 --> 06:18.786 like island hopping and , and those 06:18.786 --> 06:20.952 kinds of things , the the air force is 06:20.952 --> 06:23.149 going into a multi capable airmen but 06:23.260 --> 06:25.959 uh concept called ace uh agile Combat 06:25.970 --> 06:29.540 employment where we set up on an 06:29.549 --> 06:31.970 island temporarily , 72 hours , 06:31.980 --> 06:34.091 whatever . And then we move on to the 06:34.091 --> 06:36.202 next one . That's just something that 06:36.202 --> 06:38.258 we're working on . Right . So , it's 06:38.258 --> 06:40.369 very doctrinally similar to where the 06:40.369 --> 06:42.147 core is going when we call Eabo 06:42.147 --> 06:43.813 expeditionary advanced basing 06:43.813 --> 06:45.924 operations . We've done this before . 06:45.924 --> 06:48.091 Look at World War Two , Tarawa , Iwo , 06:48.220 --> 06:50.387 Jima . You name it Guadalcanal . We've 06:50.387 --> 06:52.553 done this before . Um , we got to dust 06:52.553 --> 06:54.664 off those publications and see how it 06:54.664 --> 06:56.831 worked . What we can learn from that . 06:56.831 --> 06:58.998 History is a great teacher and whether 06:58.998 --> 07:01.164 it's the Air Force and doctrinally how 07:01.164 --> 07:00.089 they're going to support the combatant 07:00.100 --> 07:03.149 commanders or the Marine Corps . Um In , 07:03.160 --> 07:05.382 in our terminology , it's all been done 07:05.382 --> 07:07.438 before . We , we can do this again , 07:07.438 --> 07:09.660 but we've got to train under these hard 07:09.660 --> 07:12.000 conditions in a contested and degraded 07:12.010 --> 07:14.130 coms environment . And maybe when we 07:14.140 --> 07:16.196 don't have sat , maybe when we don't 07:16.196 --> 07:18.309 have GPS , maybe when we don't have 07:18.320 --> 07:20.799 persistent ISR . So you and I may have 07:20.809 --> 07:22.980 grown up in a time in Desert , excuse 07:22.989 --> 07:25.170 me , in Iraq and Afghanistan where you 07:25.179 --> 07:27.399 can walk into the operations floor and 07:27.410 --> 07:30.959 24 7 . See UAV feeds and watch the live 07:30.970 --> 07:33.619 live combat . That's likely not going 07:33.630 --> 07:36.100 to be the case in a future scenario . 07:36.510 --> 07:38.566 Very much . So , that's terrifying . 07:38.566 --> 07:40.788 Actually , we've become spoiled in that 07:40.788 --> 07:43.279 sense . Uh So that's , that's good . 07:43.329 --> 07:45.570 You mentioned uh you know , us 07:45.600 --> 07:47.959 participating in those exercises or , 07:47.970 --> 07:50.640 you know , uh embracing the realism of 07:50.649 --> 07:52.649 it and those kinds of things . What 07:52.649 --> 07:54.649 would you expect out of the , those 07:54.649 --> 07:56.871 coordinating those kinds of exercises , 07:56.871 --> 07:58.982 the cadre themselves and that kind of 07:58.982 --> 08:00.982 stuff . Is there something that you 08:00.982 --> 08:03.038 always demand out of others that are 08:03.038 --> 08:05.093 coordinating these things or putting 08:05.093 --> 08:07.205 those things on ? Well , I , what I , 08:07.205 --> 08:09.427 what I don't like to see necessarily is 08:09.427 --> 08:11.760 we are , are already there in the fight . 08:11.760 --> 08:13.927 My questions are gonna be , how did we 08:13.927 --> 08:13.899 get to the fight ? How did we 08:13.910 --> 08:16.179 logistically sustain the fight ? How do 08:16.190 --> 08:18.357 we communicate ? How did we , you know 08:18.820 --> 08:20.820 what we call tip fit ? So how do we 08:20.820 --> 08:22.598 flow the force there , flow the 08:22.598 --> 08:25.040 capabilities there ? And so we've got 08:25.049 --> 08:27.269 to exercise all of that and that often 08:27.279 --> 08:29.390 starts in the information environment 08:29.839 --> 08:31.617 and challenging the information 08:31.617 --> 08:33.783 environment which is constant and then 08:33.783 --> 08:35.839 you'll see things non kinetically in 08:35.839 --> 08:37.950 cyber space before we're even getting 08:37.950 --> 08:39.895 on an aircraft or a ship to get to 08:39.895 --> 08:41.895 wherever that fight is . And so the 08:41.895 --> 08:44.340 realism of the fight should start with 08:44.349 --> 08:46.880 getting the execution order , getting 08:46.890 --> 08:49.239 the , the , the the troops secured and , 08:49.250 --> 08:51.306 and , and , and on their aircraft or 08:51.306 --> 08:53.472 however they're getting there and then 08:53.472 --> 08:55.694 exercising the part just to get there . 08:55.694 --> 08:57.806 And I don't know that we often uh put 08:57.806 --> 09:00.028 enough realism in that because if I was 09:00.028 --> 09:02.719 the adversary , I would make sure it's 09:02.729 --> 09:04.673 a , it's an away game . I would do 09:04.673 --> 09:06.673 everything I could to make sure you 09:06.673 --> 09:08.618 can't even get there . And , and I 09:08.618 --> 09:10.785 think , you know , our adversaries and 09:10.785 --> 09:10.239 our competitors are out there . They're 09:10.250 --> 09:12.679 not stupid . They realize this . So 09:12.690 --> 09:15.023 that's where I think we got to exercise . 09:15.023 --> 09:17.190 I would really focus on a red cell . I 09:17.190 --> 09:20.159 will have a red cell um , unconstrained 09:20.369 --> 09:23.130 based on the actual capabilities of 09:23.140 --> 09:25.196 adversaries that are out there and , 09:25.196 --> 09:27.418 and having them really challenging us . 09:27.599 --> 09:29.766 And the good thing is , is when you do 09:29.766 --> 09:31.877 that , when you challenge yourself in 09:31.877 --> 09:33.988 training , you potentially bleed less 09:33.988 --> 09:36.155 in combat . Right . Very much . Yeah , 09:36.155 --> 09:38.210 that's , uh it's a very good point . 09:38.210 --> 09:40.043 I'm happy this is being recorded 09:40.043 --> 09:42.266 because I'm definitely wanting to write 09:42.266 --> 09:42.239 this stuff down and I did not come 09:42.250 --> 09:44.306 prepared for that . So thank you for 09:44.306 --> 09:46.528 mentioning that the modern technology . 09:46.528 --> 09:48.750 Let's hope it works out , no doubt . Um 09:48.750 --> 09:50.917 That , that , that's very much true in 09:50.917 --> 09:53.400 that sense . Um One thing that we have 09:53.409 --> 09:55.631 not gotten away from and adding another 09:55.631 --> 09:57.742 service as an example hasn't helped , 09:57.742 --> 09:59.799 but uh we don't all speak the same 09:59.809 --> 10:02.659 language . Um As far as like , you know , 10:02.669 --> 10:05.729 if we , we call in something uh to a 10:05.739 --> 10:07.739 sister service , right ? Like if we 10:07.739 --> 10:09.795 call it into the core or the Navy or 10:09.795 --> 10:12.017 something like that , they're , they're 10:12.017 --> 10:14.239 expecting a different type of nine line 10:14.239 --> 10:16.461 or something like that . Although we do 10:16.461 --> 10:18.628 have some universal kind of language . 10:18.628 --> 10:21.619 Uh where do you see uh in your opinion , 10:21.630 --> 10:23.686 like a stop gap where , where do you 10:23.686 --> 10:26.369 see where we aren't speaking the same 10:26.380 --> 10:28.602 language and something that we maybe we 10:28.602 --> 10:30.713 should start focusing on ? So that we 10:30.713 --> 10:32.880 can easily work with sister services , 10:32.880 --> 10:34.602 especially in that constrained 10:34.602 --> 10:36.880 environment . I'll give you a scenario . 10:36.880 --> 10:39.102 So I've , I've served at the joint task 10:39.102 --> 10:41.158 force , full accounting and I was in 10:41.158 --> 10:44.390 Laos many years ago and our a S3 50 10:44.400 --> 10:46.511 helicopter pilot was from New Zealand 10:46.700 --> 10:48.849 and I had to execute a medevac on a 10:48.859 --> 10:50.803 service member of mine . I was the 10:50.803 --> 10:52.748 assistant team leader . And so I'm 10:52.748 --> 10:55.349 dealing with a LAO official who didn't 10:55.359 --> 10:58.119 speak very good English , um didn't 10:58.130 --> 11:00.241 speak English very well if you will . 11:00.241 --> 11:02.463 And , and I had a New Zealand pilot who 11:02.463 --> 11:05.429 had a really challenging accent . Um 11:06.659 --> 11:09.150 Prior to that day , one , we had 11:09.159 --> 11:11.570 rehearsed specific call signs and words 11:11.580 --> 11:13.691 we were going to use . And so when we 11:13.691 --> 11:15.636 had to execute that medevac and it 11:15.636 --> 11:17.636 wasn't a major medevac , this was a 11:17.636 --> 11:19.469 twisted ankle and so it would be 11:19.469 --> 11:22.109 different under heavy gunfire and that 11:22.119 --> 11:24.320 sort of thing . Um But the key is we 11:24.330 --> 11:26.497 got to rehearse and exercises . And so 11:26.497 --> 11:28.770 joint doctrine is critical . Joint 11:28.780 --> 11:31.109 terminology is critical . And then 11:31.119 --> 11:33.008 really if you've heard any of the 11:33.008 --> 11:35.175 service chiefs or the chairman talk or 11:35.175 --> 11:37.341 the talk , they always talk about , we 11:37.341 --> 11:39.397 do this with our partners and allies 11:39.397 --> 11:41.452 and so we've got to incorporate them 11:41.452 --> 11:43.563 into these exercise when and where we 11:43.563 --> 11:45.730 can . And that's where I was , I would 11:45.730 --> 11:45.280 use that , you know , one of our , our 11:45.289 --> 11:48.489 great examples in modern history of 11:48.500 --> 11:51.419 success in combat when we knew Japan 11:51.429 --> 11:53.651 had , had been able to get into some of 11:53.651 --> 11:55.596 our code and understand what we're 11:55.596 --> 11:57.651 saying is we reached out and we used 11:57.651 --> 11:59.707 the Navajo Code talkers . And so the 11:59.707 --> 12:01.762 strength of that diversity there and 12:01.762 --> 12:03.985 that , that powerful capability that we 12:03.985 --> 12:05.929 had allowed them to communicate in 12:05.929 --> 12:07.818 their native tongue and gave us a 12:07.818 --> 12:09.929 strategic advantage there . So we got 12:09.929 --> 12:11.985 to learn from history . We've got to 12:11.985 --> 12:13.596 train and exercise in a real 12:13.596 --> 12:15.485 environment with our partners and 12:15.485 --> 12:17.890 allies . Um so that we can embrace and 12:17.900 --> 12:20.067 understand those challenges beforehand 12:20.219 --> 12:22.275 and then figure out ways to mitigate 12:22.275 --> 12:25.119 those . Do you think history is 12:25.130 --> 12:27.400 repeating itself ? Well , history 12:27.409 --> 12:30.210 repeats itself . I would say what we 12:30.219 --> 12:32.386 need to do as military members is make 12:32.386 --> 12:34.663 sure we give our , our elected leaders , 12:34.663 --> 12:37.750 our diplomats and everyone else , all 12:37.760 --> 12:40.229 of the we we need to be ready so that 12:40.239 --> 12:42.650 they can negotiate peace and they can 12:42.659 --> 12:44.826 make sure that we can deter conflict . 12:44.979 --> 12:47.201 So we don't have the luxury of saying I 12:47.201 --> 12:49.035 don't think it's going to happen 12:49.035 --> 12:51.090 tomorrow . We've got to be ready for 12:51.090 --> 12:53.201 potential actions and that gives them 12:53.201 --> 12:55.312 those diplomats and those leaders the 12:55.312 --> 12:57.479 buffer to negotiate and make sure that 12:57.479 --> 12:59.423 we can continue to have a peaceful 12:59.423 --> 13:01.729 environment . So I don't know , I hope 13:01.840 --> 13:04.007 it doesn't repeat itself . I certainly 13:04.007 --> 13:06.118 haven't served in combat many times , 13:06.118 --> 13:08.799 would love to see global peace break 13:08.809 --> 13:11.359 out . But I'm not optimistic of that . 13:11.369 --> 13:13.591 And so as a service member , especially 13:13.591 --> 13:15.813 a senior list of , of space command . I 13:15.813 --> 13:18.091 can tell you we are heavily focused on , 13:18.091 --> 13:19.925 on war fighting . We are heavily 13:19.925 --> 13:22.147 focused on readiness . That's why we're 13:22.147 --> 13:21.359 here . This week , I brought all my 13:21.369 --> 13:23.591 senior list of leaders out to make sure 13:23.591 --> 13:26.140 that we talked about this . We in a , 13:26.150 --> 13:28.372 in a highly classified environment , we 13:28.372 --> 13:30.539 talked about the threat . We know what 13:30.539 --> 13:32.594 the issues and challenges are and we 13:32.594 --> 13:34.817 are laser focused on making sure we are 13:34.817 --> 13:36.706 ready for our commanders . That's 13:36.706 --> 13:38.706 amazing . I appreciate that comment 13:38.706 --> 13:40.928 specifically . One last thing for you . 13:40.928 --> 13:42.869 Uh I do a lot with our brand new 13:42.880 --> 13:44.609 generation coming through , uh 13:44.619 --> 13:48.409 preparing them to get into not the job 13:48.419 --> 13:50.719 itself but just become a war fighter or 13:50.729 --> 13:53.419 get into an operational mindset . Uh Is 13:53.429 --> 13:56.419 there anything that you think I either 13:56.429 --> 13:58.596 you would pass along as a message or I 13:58.596 --> 14:00.707 could pass along as a message so that 14:00.707 --> 14:02.830 these new airmen and guardians coming 14:02.840 --> 14:05.909 in are that laser focus to , you know , 14:05.919 --> 14:08.229 ensure they're ready for that war . So 14:08.239 --> 14:10.640 I came in in 1993 January 93 to be 14:10.650 --> 14:12.761 exact . That was a couple of days ago 14:12.761 --> 14:15.099 and my major had served in Vietnam . 14:15.859 --> 14:17.748 And so for a while I was that new 14:17.748 --> 14:19.970 generation as well . What I would offer 14:19.970 --> 14:22.789 to folks is we get some , some folks 14:22.799 --> 14:25.679 get focused on their A FSC , their M OS 14:25.690 --> 14:28.510 job rating , whatever you would say is 14:28.520 --> 14:30.742 we got to get in the mindset of this as 14:30.742 --> 14:32.853 a profession . So we just had the NFL 14:32.853 --> 14:35.076 draft , the college football season was 14:35.076 --> 14:37.242 over , but the professionals continued 14:37.242 --> 14:39.353 to train and prepare and get ready so 14:39.353 --> 14:41.353 that they would have a higher draft 14:41.353 --> 14:43.298 rating . That's what we need to be 14:43.298 --> 14:45.187 mindful of is we are professional 14:45.187 --> 14:47.298 combat athletes . We consistently are 14:47.298 --> 14:49.353 training , are getting ready . We're 14:49.353 --> 14:49.330 reading , we're studying , we're 14:49.340 --> 14:51.640 preparing , we're exercising , we're 14:51.650 --> 14:53.799 executing physical activity , all of 14:53.809 --> 14:56.159 the things we need to do so that we can 14:56.169 --> 14:59.440 be ready again , hoping that conflict 14:59.450 --> 15:01.506 doesn't break out . But we got to be 15:01.506 --> 15:03.672 ready for a lot of things , especially 15:03.672 --> 15:05.839 in the air force and the Space force , 15:05.839 --> 15:05.760 right ? Humanitarian disaster relief 15:05.770 --> 15:07.992 operations . We're going to need you to 15:07.992 --> 15:09.826 either execute the kneel the non 15:09.826 --> 15:12.048 combatant evacuation . Maybe there's an 15:12.048 --> 15:14.103 earthquake where we've got to rescue 15:14.103 --> 15:16.048 third country nationals , American 15:16.048 --> 15:18.048 citizens . We got to be ready for a 15:18.048 --> 15:20.214 variety of things . And so thinking of 15:20.214 --> 15:22.381 us as professional combat athletes , I 15:22.381 --> 15:24.381 think is critical and professionals 15:24.381 --> 15:26.048 don't have time off . They're 15:26.048 --> 15:25.940 consistently preparing . They're 15:25.950 --> 15:28.006 reading the books , they're studying 15:28.006 --> 15:30.159 the remaining fit , not getting fit , 15:30.169 --> 15:32.809 remaining fit for that fight or 15:32.820 --> 15:34.931 whatever that is and they provide all 15:34.931 --> 15:37.098 of those options so that the commander 15:37.098 --> 15:39.098 can decide how they're going to use 15:39.098 --> 15:38.780 those . And that commander could be the 15:38.789 --> 15:40.900 commander in chief , the Secretary of 15:40.900 --> 15:42.900 Defense or a local unit commander . 15:43.409 --> 15:45.353 That's amazing . I appreciate that 15:45.353 --> 15:47.631 comment . Um One last question , sorry . 15:47.919 --> 15:51.330 There was a book that we could , we 15:51.340 --> 15:53.659 should be reading . What would you 15:53.669 --> 15:55.669 recommend ? Yeah , that's easy . So 15:55.669 --> 15:58.219 it's , it's um uh by Victor Frankl , 15:58.479 --> 16:01.059 it's Man Search for Meaning . And III I 16:01.070 --> 16:03.014 use that . There's , I can , I can 16:03.014 --> 16:05.181 actually list 100 books because I read 16:05.181 --> 16:07.348 a lot . But I would say Man Search for 16:07.348 --> 16:09.403 meaning is critical because it gives 16:09.403 --> 16:11.514 perspective . It gives , it gives a , 16:11.514 --> 16:13.681 this is an individual who went through 16:13.681 --> 16:15.792 the holocaust who lost his family and 16:15.792 --> 16:17.848 he came out um in , in some ways , I 16:17.848 --> 16:19.903 would say in a , in a post traumatic 16:19.903 --> 16:21.959 growth , he grew from that and , and 16:21.959 --> 16:23.890 taught us uh a lot of tremendous 16:23.900 --> 16:26.580 lessons . Um that book right there . 16:26.590 --> 16:28.868 When you think you're having a bad day , 16:28.868 --> 16:30.868 when you think you're going through 16:30.868 --> 16:33.034 some challenges , you read what Victor 16:33.034 --> 16:35.090 Frankel wrote , what he went through 16:35.090 --> 16:37.146 and how he came out . I won't say he 16:37.146 --> 16:39.312 came out better , but he came out much 16:39.312 --> 16:41.146 stronger . On the other end is a 16:41.146 --> 16:43.257 remarkable book . There's , there's a 16:43.257 --> 16:43.250 ton of books that are out there . I 16:43.260 --> 16:45.427 think the end of the world is just the 16:45.427 --> 16:47.149 beginning gives us this unique 16:47.149 --> 16:49.460 perspective on , on China and , and , 16:49.469 --> 16:51.890 and quite frankly , some issues within 16:51.900 --> 16:54.067 our own nation that we should probably 16:54.067 --> 16:56.233 be proud of and see that as strength . 16:56.233 --> 16:58.400 Um And so there's a ton of books but , 16:58.400 --> 17:00.567 but Victor Frankel's is the number one 17:00.567 --> 17:02.733 book I recommend to everybody . That's 17:02.733 --> 17:04.789 awesome . Yes , sir . Yeah . Again , 17:04.789 --> 17:07.011 thank you for your time coming out just 17:07.011 --> 17:09.233 to be in general , right ? Bringing all 17:09.233 --> 17:08.989 these senior leaders with you and that 17:09.000 --> 17:11.222 kind of stuff , but also giving us your 17:11.222 --> 17:14.189 time uh with this um any closing 17:14.199 --> 17:16.532 comments for yourself ? Hey , thank you . 17:16.532 --> 17:18.643 Thanks for all , all you do . I think 17:18.643 --> 17:20.979 we we in the the profession of arms 17:20.989 --> 17:23.211 just need to realize we gotta take this 17:23.211 --> 17:25.433 serious . Um We don't come to work , to 17:25.433 --> 17:27.656 do a job , It's to execute a profession 17:27.656 --> 17:29.878 and to make sure that our , our leaders 17:29.878 --> 17:32.569 have options . And so whether you're in 17:32.579 --> 17:34.690 public affairs , helping to share our 17:34.690 --> 17:36.849 story , it's critical the information 17:36.859 --> 17:38.859 environment . There's a reason that 17:38.859 --> 17:40.970 Secretary Mattis made information the 17:40.970 --> 17:43.026 seventh War fighting function . It's 17:43.026 --> 17:45.081 important that we tell our story and 17:45.081 --> 17:47.303 tell our truth and tell our narrative . 17:47.303 --> 17:49.470 So whether you're doing that , whether 17:49.470 --> 17:51.526 you're administration or logistics , 17:51.526 --> 17:53.692 infantry special operations or space , 17:53.692 --> 17:55.915 it , it , it doesn't matter . We've got 17:55.915 --> 17:57.915 to make sure that we're ready and I 17:57.915 --> 18:00.137 don't say that in a hyperbolic manner . 18:00.137 --> 18:03.859 I mean that sincerely awesome . Thank 18:03.869 --> 18:05.640 you . Thank you . Yep .