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To Lamy's 70th anniversary ,

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celebrating launch Tools , Excellence

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in health care from 1953 to present .

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This is the LP D session . This is

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session number two . Um the exit for

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back to the room and to my right , your

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left bathrooms are out the hall of the

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the dining facility to the right

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today . We have the honor to welcome

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Donna Pratt us army sergeant who is

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going to be here discussing a lawyer

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testimony . She deployed to Iraq in

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2008 and worked in the army where she

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maintained weapons and equipment as an

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expression of her devotion to her job

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and country . She prayed over the

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arsenal and her fellow soldiers before

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each mission . Even while in severe

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pain , due to foot and ankle injuries ,

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when several soldiers in the unit were

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injured by an improvised explosive

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device . The day after she was sent

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home for a medical , medical treatment ,

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she became overcome with survivors

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guilt and a form of post traumatic

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stress disorder . She quotes it tore me

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apart . This one time . I wasn't there ,

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someone got hurt . Donna says she came

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through our doors in our halls in May

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2009 and medically retired

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from the military . She's also quoted

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as saying , the wounded warrior project

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really kick started my recovery both

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physically and emotionally with the

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wounded warrior project . I have been

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in more places have done more things

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than I ever thought I could do today .

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I would like to welcome us army

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Sergeant Donna Pratt to the podium for

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her testimony .

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Yes . Yes , I am retired

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United States army Sergeant , Donna

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Pratt . But before I

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earned that awesome title , I was born

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to Sandra Farmer and Ira Farmer .

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These were my great parents . I grew up

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in the Midwest , Chicago , Illinois .

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Actually , I'm sure some of you heard

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of it . It is the place we call

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affectionately , the windy city . It is

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the home of Al Capone , a well

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known mobster , but I'm no mobster .

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I just love the rich history of my

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hometown . I'm from the city with the

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best deep dish pizza ,

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the 2016 world series winning

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Chicago Cubs , the Beast .

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I go bears . Also second city

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improv comedy club that produce

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comedians like Dan Ackroyd . Um

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John Tina Fey and David Foley .

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Did you know they all start on Saturday

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Night Live ? All right . I was

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raised on the south side of Chicago ,

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the inner city . My parents provided a

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loving home for

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me and my younger brother . We did

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all kinds of stuff together playing

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board games , doing

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homework . My mom in her early years

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was a seamstress and a tailor . She

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made most of our family's clothes .

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We looked good

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before my dad met my mom . He was a

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hard worker . He was drafted into the

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United States army . He was a great

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soldier . He fought in World War Two .

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And guess what ? He was here in Germany

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many , many moons ago . So , needless

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to say my brother and I , we had

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plenty of routine and structure in our

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home . Even though we had structure ,

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my mom made things fun .

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She made sure that my brother and I

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stayed on the right path and always had

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good grades in school .

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Let me tell you another thing about my

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mom . She had a way of getting us to do

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our chores . She would trick us .

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She would like crank up the music ,

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turn it on to like the hits of the

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seventies . My brother and I would

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dance , dance and

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clean away .

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She tricked us

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even when my brother and I were little ,

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my dad , he still was a hard worker .

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He worked as a carpenter for the local

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bus company , the Chicago Transit

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Authority , but we just call it C T A .

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All right . So now this is the part of

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my story when I tell you how I got that

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awesome title . I know you're thinking

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it's because I've been speaking about

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so highly of my dad being a great

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soldier . Did I mention

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I had several uncles that were soldiers ?

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One of them even fought in Vietnam . No ,

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that's still not how I got that great

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title . My oldest stepbrother , he was

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also a soldier and some of even my

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first cousins , they were in the

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military . I looked up to them all

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but having all the honorable family in

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history . That's not why I decided to

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join the army . I'm gonna give it to

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you straight . No chaser .

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I joined . After high school , I had

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three art scholarships . Three

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I decided art wasn't the career choice

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I wanted . So I didn't take any of the

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scholarships . I really joined

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the army to get out of my loving

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city of Chicago to make a better life

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for my nothing

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noble or pain for reasons .

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I am my first time for eight years .

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Don't laugh my first

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job . I was a graphic illustrator . Yes .

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Doing art . My unit , they

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drew some of the propaganda that was

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disseminated by the Air Force and

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efforts to stop the Desert Storm

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conflict before it started doing that

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eight year enlistment . I decided to

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get out right after . I just didn't

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think the army was for me ,

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but that didn't end my army

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career .

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I got that awesome title of

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United States army sergeant . Don Pratt .

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Still not gonna tell you why I got that

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awesome title yet . I got out .

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Few years go by . We all know that bad

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thing happened 9 11 .

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Now I'm a little bit older . I

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wanna say a little bit wiser making

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better decisions . I felt compelled

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to reenlist . I went back in the

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military knowing I could possibly

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deploy , deploy to Iraq

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for freedom and the pride of my country .

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When I real enlisted , I got a new job .

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I was a sergeant . I maintained the

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arms room . I supplied fixed weapons .

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I prayed over every , every single

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weapon that left my arms room . I

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kept an adequate account of everything

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that came in and out . I took my job

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seriously . I had now become a

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proud member of the seven oh third

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support battalion from Fort Stewart

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Georgia home with Third ID .

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I was honored to be with a battalion

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that earned several military honors for

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his service on the war on terrorism .

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Getting the presidential unit citation

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for its service in the opening weeks

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and months of operation Iraqi Freedom .

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Shortly after I reported for duty with

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seven a third , we try , we deploy ,

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I deployed to Iraqi Operation Freedom .

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Five , we were at forward operating

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base which is located south of Baghdad .

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Our mission was to support our mission

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as a support battalion was to aid and

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assist the 10th Mountain Division on

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their mission to eliminate our enemy .

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We offer support by bringing or fixing ,

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we uh fixing vehicles . We brought

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food arms and even medical attention

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and supplies were needed . I went on

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several missions to aid 10th Mountain

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by supplying weapons and even ammo .

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I have some awesome and not so awesome

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memories . I can remember my first time

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going out to a little small village .

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They look like little castles

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even being here today . I still think

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they look like castles . I also

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remember seeing like my , the major

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sandstorm , the sand had begun to

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rise . It started approaching

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and the sky was beautiful . It was the

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best shade of purple I've ever seen .

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Yes , I got a chance to see beauty

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within chaos . I also

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saw plenty of things that I still can't

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bring my mouth to talk about ,

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including the mission that got me

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medically evacuated and sent back to

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Germany right here where I

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stand today . I came here on a

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stretcher to be evaluated to see if I

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needed to have emergency surgery or if

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I can be sent back to my home base in

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Fort Stewart on that last mission

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before I got medically evacuated . I

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suffered torn ligaments , torn tendons ,

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nerve damage to both feet and ankles

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and to top it off . I had tumors in my

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uterus coming back to the States

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when your unit is still deployed , it

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sucks . I was medically

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evacuated seven months into a 15 month

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deployment when I came back .

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I felt so I'm sure most of

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you know , here in this room when you

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join the military , you form a strong

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bond . So I felt like I was letting my

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team , my army family down cause I

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got taken out of the fight . I was

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depressed and on top of needing

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surgeries . So we in

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pain , I remember being in a wheelchair

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thinking life was horrible .

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I tried to stay positive but I could

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not .

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Things just to me seem like it was

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almost the end . I was put in the W T U

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which is the word transition unit .

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It's a unit to assist military

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while they're injured or ill . I had

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two surgeries on both feet and ankles .

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I had a full hysterectomy . I had , I

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had a , her surgery having all those

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surgeries . It took a long time for me

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to recover during my 2.5 years in a

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wheelchair . This is when my

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story changes . There's a military

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organization . I just wonder what

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ever ask me to join the soldier ride

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and if you've been listening a

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wheelchair . So I kindly declined .

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They didn't give up on me . I was told

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when the Warrior Project had a bike

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that would , they would adjust to fit

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my conditions . When the warrior told

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me about this bike , it's called a hand

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cycle . And

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the ride was like a multiple day ride

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experience when I went

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on my first ride . Truly , it was

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more than an experience . It saved my

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life . I found out about adaptive

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sports .

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And with that , I can say when the

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Warrior Project saved my life .

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When I got invited to that ride ,

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there was another worry in my unit . He

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was about 21 . He was paralyzed from

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the waist down . I thought he would

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benefit more from the ride than I . So

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I asked , can he take my place ?

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But the great organization with the

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word project being , they let us both

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go . I know he and I

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both lives would change that day .

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I can speak for myself . It taught me

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new skills . It helped me begin a new

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life of confidence .

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Pride functions as a unit , no matter

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what your skill level , a

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family part of a unit , they left no

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one behind . At

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least when I went ,

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I was able to see how I can be whole .

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Again . On that ride , I developed a

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model for myself , which is , I don't

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adapt to life . I make life adapt to me .

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I want you to hear it again . I don't

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adapt to life . I make life adapt to

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me . Let's , let's

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fast forward a little bit . I told you

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I got that awesome title . Retired

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United States

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after getting medically retired from

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the army . Now . Also

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proud of what was the beginning to be

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accomplishments with my new life ? I

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think I earned it . There's so many

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wonderful programs with wounded warrior

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project . I've been able to join in on

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several like project Odyssey . It's a

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program that's designed for veterans

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living with PTSD and other invisible

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invisible wounds . The program

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physically and mentally prepares you

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for life . They push you to the

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limits limits . You didn't even know

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you can do , you can do

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W W P helped me grow into the person

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you see before you , I was the shy

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inner city Chicago girl

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before you for not even

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being speak to two people .

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Now , I can speak to a room of hundreds .

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Being here today means a lot to me . I

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didn't even realize how much I needed

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this coming here through

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was the start of something I thought

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was bad . It was something I thought

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was going to end my life . Also , when

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I was in that wheelchair , they told me

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I would never walk again . As you see ,

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I'm standing here before you today , I

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got my limitations , but I'd rather be

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here now than any place else in the

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world . I wanna thank you

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for having me and I really appreciate

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you listening and I'm that awesome

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retired United States army sergeant ,

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Donald Pratt .

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Thank you very much

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as we continue our testimonies . I'd

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also like to welcome up to the podium

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and that's corporal Larson , his

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18th birthday less than a month after

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watching the events of 9 11 unfold .

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Mike Larson joined the marines , his

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high school on entrance on entrance ,

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entrance test meant he could choose

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practically any job he wanted and he

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wanted to choose the infantry . He said

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they go where the action is . I want to

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go and fight just knowing wounded

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warriors project is always there . If I

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need anything has helped greatly , they

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have your back . They are there for you ,

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Mike . I'd like to welcome you to the

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podium and welcome to the Thank you .

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Thank you . I run Mike Larson . Um

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I was born and raised in Florida . I

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grew up in , I was born in Gainesville ,

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Florida . Um , my mom and dad moved

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down from Wisconsin to Florida . Um ,

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we lived there about five years , they

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got a divorce and my mom met my stepdad

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there and we moved down to South

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Florida . So I grew up down there my

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whole life , fishing , um playing

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sports , doing all that kind of stuff ,

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had a very active lifestyle . Um My mom

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had three kids is me , my brother , my

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older brother and younger sister and

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then my stepdad had three boys . We're

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all similar in age . My oldest

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stepbrother is about three years older

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than me . And then there's the next one ,

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he's the middle one . He's two years

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older and then there's me and my

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younger step brother and my younger

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sister . So we had a big family . We

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were always together doing stuff ,

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riding bikes , um playing football ,

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all that type of stuff as kids . So we

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had a pretty big family . It was very

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competitive as , you know , the third

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in line . I was kind of in the middle

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of the whole pack . I always had to

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fight my way through everything , fight

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for food at the table , that type of

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deal . Um Fight , I always had to play

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like twice as hard because everyone's

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always bigger than me . So we play

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baseball or football . I had to really

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like to go the extra mile to overcome

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the they're all taller and bigger and

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faster , stronger type deal . So that

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kind of growing up , that kind of way

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always gave me that grit , that fight

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fighting can do type of spirit type

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deal . Um So one day when I was 17 ,

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I was sick at home . My buddy was at

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home too . He usually drove me to

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school . He skipped school that day .

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Um , I was actually sick at home

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anyways , didn't skip school . But , um ,

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so he called me up and he's like , Mike ,

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what are you doing ? I was like laying

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in bed , I'm sick . He's like , turn on

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the TV . I was like , why , what's

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going on and he's like , just turn on

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the TV . So I got out of bed and went ,

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turned on the TV . And I'm watching the

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news . It's like on every channel

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flicking through and it was the Twin

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Towers . The first tower had been hit

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and I was reading a little scroll , um ,

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to figure out what was going on because

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it was just like smoke and stuff . And

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as I'm watching it , the second plane

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flew into the other tower and you could

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like , literally it was live . So you

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could see people jumping on the tower ,

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um , to their death basically . And

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sitting there watching that , I was

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just in shock and kind of , I was sad ,

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went through a whole range of emotions .

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I was sad , I would , I didn't know

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what to do and then I started to get

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angry watching it thinking about like ,

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these are innocent people just sitting

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there at work and this is happening to

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them . They have to deal with this . So

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it stuck with me . Um And then the war

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kicked off and I was like , this is

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what I can do to help . I'm gonna join

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up . So I talked to my mom about , I

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kind of had a hint at hint to her at

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what I was getting at like , hey , how

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would you feel if one of us joined the

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military ? And she's like , no , none

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of you are going , you're gonna either

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get injured or you're gonna die over

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there . Um And that kind of stems from

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because her , my grandfather , he was

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in the navy um back in the Korean War

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which I found out later . Um He was a

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submarine , he was a corpsman in the

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navy . He uh he fought in Korea .

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They , I don't know where he fought ,

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but I'm assuming as a corpsman , he was

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probably with the marines fighting

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frozen chosen or something like that .

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Um Came back stateside , he became a

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submarine or he actually was on the

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first submarine trip to Antarctica . So

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he was there named a mountain after

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himself was Mount in Antarctica . And

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that's him . Uh funny story with that

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is he some rich person paid him to

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plant a flag on a mountain in a , in a

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and he did it , he planted the flag ,

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got the mountain named and came back

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and he gave him a different flag than

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the one he planted on the mountain ,

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which I now have . Um So if anyone's

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related to that rich guy , let me know ,

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got his flag . So I think that's where

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she was hesitant about it . So I waited

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at , I was 7 16 when the towers got hit

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and my birthday is October . So I

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turned 17 . I had to wait another year

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to come around and I enlisted on my own

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behind my mom's back . It's kind of

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funny because in high school I , I

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never really knew what I was gonna do

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up until that point . Um My step dad

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was a roofer . I did that with him on

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summers . It's a terrible job . Don't

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ever do it . Um So I knew I didn't want

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to do that . Everyone that's a roofer

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will tell you that too . This is not a

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career , don't do it . You do it for

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three months in the Florida Sun .

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You'll not want to do it either . Um So

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I was going , I drew for the school

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newspaper , I was an artist there . Um

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I like that , but there's not really

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any money in that unless you Walt

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Disney and you could create a whole

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theme park and stuff , but I'm not that

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talented . Um So I did auto , auto

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mechanics . They had a program in high

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school . I was pretty smart . I got

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straight A s few BS later on in high

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school . Um , so I entered this program

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where they trained . I went to my first

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year of high school . I did all the

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normal courses , knocked out a whole

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year's worth of academics . And then

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the next three years I could do half my

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school time at a vocational school for

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auto mechanics . And then I go back to

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high school for two classes . So as I

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was doing that at the time , I

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graduated that I was gonna work for

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Toyota as an auto mechanics until 9 11

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happened , which worked out too because

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I also worked at a car dealership and

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mechanics there . Told me the same

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thing the roofers did . Like , you

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don't wanna be a mechanic , don't do

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that . So I was like , all right , cool .

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And I'm glad today that I didn't do

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that because that is a miserable job

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too . Um It's just a lot of work and

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then they all pay you commissions now

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and you don't make any money for the

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work you do . It's not worth it . Um So

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18th birthday , I signed up for the

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Marine Corps . Um , good friend of mine .

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He had joined when I was 17 . He

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already was joining the Marines . He

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left the following summer , he actually

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came back . Um He was on recruiting

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duty in October at my high school and

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he , he never knew like , I never

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showed any interest or anything in it .

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So I walked up to him , I was like ,

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hey , um , I wanna join the Marines and

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he was like , oh , good joke . I was

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like , no , I'm serious . And he's like ,

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for real . And I was like , yeah , so I

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was like , because they have to recruit

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so many people or they're on recruiting

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duty otherwise they get in trouble and

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they have to get sent back . It's kind

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of like free leave you can use if you

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don't have the accrued leave . So I did ,

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I went up to him . He finally , I

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convinced him that I was serious . He's

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like , all right , meet me after school ,

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I'll take you over to the recruiting

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office . I go into the recruiting

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office and he's like , oh , I got a guy

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they want , he wants to join , they

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give you a , like a pre type . It's

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like a competency test . So I took that

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and I got like a 99 on it and he was

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like , wow , this is awesome . You did ?

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Great . And I was like , ok , cool .

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When do I pick my job ? And he's like ,

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well , that's just a pretest you're not

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in yet . You used to have all this

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stuff we have to do . So I did all the

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paperwork and stuff , um , went back

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and forth with , um , um ,

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and I , the recruiter , like , told me

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he's like , did you tell your mom and I

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was like , no , I did . And he's like ,

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all right , I'll go with you . He came

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with me to the house and we told my mom

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or whatever , they signed up and she

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was all mad and crying and it was a

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whole ordeal . Um But he talked to her

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and I talked to her and she was kind of

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on board with it after that point . So

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then I did the was the next step . Went

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down to Miami Maps took that test . Um

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I don't remember what I got on it , but

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after I got done , the guy , like you

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can do any job in the Marine Corps you

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want with that score . So I was like ,

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ok , cool . I wanna be infantry and

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he's like , do you wanna look at other

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jobs ? And I was like , no infantry is

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where it's at . It's what I wanna do .

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I wanna fight , I wanna be in the

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action and Marine Corps infantry is the

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best there is . And he's like , oh yeah ,

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that's what I like to hear . He , he

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loves infantry too . And um , so I just

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did that . Didn't even look at another

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job . Um I spent that was in

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October . I didn't get my boot camp

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date . It was in July , it was supposed

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to be June . It got pushed back to July .

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Um , 2003 . So I was in a pool .

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You have to go like every week you have

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to go to the recruiting office and then

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you do running pull ups , sit ups just

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to get you prepared for Marine Corps

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boot camp . Um , and I did weight

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training in high school was one of my

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electives , um , because it was either

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that or band . So I was pretty good .

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Um , I had a pull up bar in my house .

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I was always doing pull ups . I did ,

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uh , I think my record was like 40 pull

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ups at one point when I was young and I

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could do like two .

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But , uh , so I went to boot camp July

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2003 , which is the worst time ever to

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go to Paris Island in case you were

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wondering , I thought Florida was hot

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but summers in the swamp is just

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miserable , worse than roofing . Um ,

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and then they have a bunch of bugs like

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we have mosquitoes , but they have seen

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police , they have big mosquitoes that

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make our mosquitoes look sad and sickly .

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Um , so that was a terrible experience .

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And then , um , nobody ever told me

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that the Marine Corps basically runs

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all the time . I thought it just like

29:23.526 --> 29:25.692
worked out . So they run a lot . We're

29:25.692 --> 29:27.803
talking about three miles a day every

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day . We're only doing calisthenics and

29:30.510 --> 29:32.621
that type of stuff . So , I was a big

29:32.621 --> 29:34.843
guy . I was like £200 when I went into

29:34.843 --> 29:37.359
boot camp muscle . I came out 100 and

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£40 . I was like a skeleton

29:41.760 --> 29:43.482
everyone thought I was sick or

29:43.482 --> 29:45.427
something like they don't feed you

29:45.427 --> 29:47.593
there . I was like , no , all we do is

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cardio all day long . Um , so I

29:49.709 --> 29:51.765
graduated boot camp . I think it was

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October . I came home for a month and

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then I went to infantry school . Also .

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The worst time ever to go to North

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Carolina . Toward the Marine Corps

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School of infantry is so I go to North

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Carolina . I think it was December . It

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was like November , middle November . I

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was there December , January , February

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and it was cold . I'm from Florida . I

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just did . The only other place I'd

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ever gone was Wisconsin in summer time ,

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which is nice . It's perfect weather .

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Um , so my second state I ever visited

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was South Carolina , which was horrible .

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And I got to go to North Carolina in

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the winter where in Florida this winter

30:31.800 --> 30:35.430
is like 50 55 . Maybe the coldest it

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gets on . We have to do

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at school of infantry . You have to dig

30:41.691 --> 30:43.858
fighting holes and stuff . We did that

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in January , like second week of

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January . It was zero degrees outside

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and there's two , it's me and another

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guy in a fighting hall . They didn't

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let us bring any of our cold weather

30:54.581 --> 30:58.150
gear . So we're just in our B D US . Um ,

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and that was it . I think we had a

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light fleece on no gloves , nothing

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else . Zero degrees . It's snowing . I

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was excited . I was like , oh , this is

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cool . I see snow . I've never seen

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snow before in my life . This is great .

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And I look over and my , the guy in the

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hall with me is like turning blue and

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he's like shaking . He ended up passing

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out and , um , he had to call the

31:20.469 --> 31:22.469
Corman , he got hypothermia . I was

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like , people were dropping left and

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right . So that was fun . Um , good

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intro into the infantry . So we did

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that . Um I left towards the end

31:34.880 --> 31:37.260
of your school of infantry training .

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You're mixed in with other people .

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Like a lot of them are reservists which

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I didn't know um when they finish

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school of infantry , they get to go

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home . So they were all like , oh

31:47.469 --> 31:49.580
whatever , getting ready to go home ,

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there was six of us that were active

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duty out of , I think it was 30 people

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in my platoon . Um And for two or

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three weeks leading up to the

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graduation , they were like telling us

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that we're gonna go to Hawaii as our

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duty station . So we were super excited ,

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super pumped like , yes , we're going

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to Hawaii . I was excited because I did

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not want to go to any place north of

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Florida . Um And two days

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before we were gonna , um we're gonna

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do our promotions , get our graduation

32:21.687 --> 32:24.680
ceremony , get out all the they called

32:24.689 --> 32:26.911
us formation and they're all laughing .

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They're like platoon sergeants and C O

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and stuff . They're all laughing or

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whatever . And then they come over and

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then they , they call us up and they're

32:36.958 --> 32:39.680
like , hey , Larson , all the other

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guys like , sorry , but your

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orders changed , you're going to 29

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Palms , California . And we're like , I

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was like , cool California . I'll take

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it . I like California now . 29 Palms .

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California is like the worst place you

32:54.547 --> 32:56.658
can ever get deployed to or stationed

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if you're in the Marine Corps . It is

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literally in the middle of the Mojave

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desert and there is probably 13 palm

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trees there . Um They call it 29 stumps .

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So we didn't realize that until we got

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there , which it was depressing . Um So

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yeah , six of us go over to 29 Palms

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and um get ready . We joined the fleet .

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Um Anything in the Marine Corps

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Infantry that's good comes with bad .

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So we get to the fleet and they're like

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welcome to the fleet and they just haze

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the out of us for like three weeks

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straight . We're just getting thrashed

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and we're cleaning . It's a lot of

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cleaning in the infantry . They don't

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tell you that in the recruiting office .

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Um we field day constantly . If we're

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not training , we're fielding , getting

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ready for inspections . So as the new

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guys to the , to the infantry unit ,

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we're getting hazed , we were cleaning

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our rooms and going to formations every

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day . I was like , this is not what I

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signed up for . This is not the

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infantry that I wanted to join . Um ,

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so anyways , we get , um , they tell us

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that we're gonna go to Iraq . Um , so

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we did four months of training leading

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up to our first deployment . We got

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deployed to Al Anbar province and a

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little city called Ari . It's on the

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west side of Iraq . It's near the

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Syrian Jordanian border . So we deploy

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there . Um All of our senior marines

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have never deployed yet . The only

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deployment they went to was Okinawa ,

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Japan where they did jungle warfare .

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They were all super nervous , super ,

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like you could kind of feel it that

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they were scared to be there and it

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kind of rubbed off on us as we looked

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up to them being junior marines or

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whatever . And you could see there a

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lot of hesitation , a lot of like

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timidness , which is , I hadn't

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experienced that yet in the Marine

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Corps , everyone's pretty assertive ,

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they know what they're gonna do . Um So

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it made us all a little shaky and a

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little on edge . Luckily that

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deployment was , was pretty smooth for

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the most part . A lot of I E DS , um A

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lot of learning we did . Uh my first

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patrol , they made me point man , which

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was not the job I wanted . But um so

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the first patrol I ever did was at

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night time and first time ever using M

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B G s because in school of infantry ,

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we were supposed to do with M B G s but

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they didn't have enough . So I never

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got them . So I'm navigating through

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the desert which was hilly and I'm from

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Florida where there's not hills . Um ,

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and we were like , making our way

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around stumbling . We weren't anywhere

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near covert or anything . People are

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falling , you have rifles falling ,

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tripping . It was a mess . You have no

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peripheral vision when you're wearing M

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B G s . So you cannot see like anything

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really in front of you . It's kind of

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like if you played Oculus or any kind

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of V R and you're like have it in the

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mode where you could see around . It's

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like that all the time , no depth

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perception . Um And one of my buddies ,

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we were , we were making our way back

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to the to the gate . We kind of did a

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patrol outside of the wire and made a

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big loop and came back to the gate . Um

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And I was just walking , we're all

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walking in the line and my buddy that's

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behind me , he's like all of a sudden

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you just disappeared . What happened

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was I was walking straight and because

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I couldn't see down in front of me here ,

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there was like a culvert ditch and it

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was like six ft down . So I just

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stepped and just face planted right

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into the bottom of the ditch . Then he

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saw it all of these N P G s like , yeah ,

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you're just walking and he just

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disappeared and then he was walking and

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then he comes down in the hole too

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because I didn't alert anyone . I fell

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in there . I'm not gonna tell anyone

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else . They'll figure it out . It's

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like four of us ended up in the ditch

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and then finally the rest of the patrol

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stopped and waited for us to climb out

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of it . Um , so that was pretty funny .

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And then on that deployment too ,

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they did the first Ripper Sweep , um

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which was initially we pushed from 27

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Fox company , which that's who I was

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with . They called us on , tapped us to

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go to Fallujah . So we geared up and

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everything , got all our Humvees and

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things like that and we pushed to

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Fallujah drove there . I think it was

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like an hour , 40 minute drive ,

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something like that . Um I don't

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remember how long it was . It was a

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week long thing that we took to go

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there . They surrounded the city and

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everything they were there for . We

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were there for like three , I think it

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was about three days just camping

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around Humvees around the Fallujah and

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then they just called it off . They're

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like , no , go back . So we drove all

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the way back . Um We just dealt with a

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lot of I E DS and small arms fire type

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deal . We get a lot at that base there .

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We had uh shared it with the air wing

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unit there , so we had power intermit

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intermittently kind of went out every

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night but pretty uneventful there . So

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we come back to the States and that's

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when they push in and finally take

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Fallujah . We're um we do

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67 month deployments . You come back

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for six months and then you go for

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another deployment for seven months .

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So we had uh three weeks of leave ,

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everyone weren't home . We came back

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and then they slowly work you up to uh

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full deployment strength . So we

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started training again to go back to

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Iraq . The Fallujah battle is going on .

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We're getting , you know , we're

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watching the news and stuff like that ,

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seeing what's going on . We get a

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leadership change changes over every

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two years in the Marine Corps or after

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and before every deployment . So we

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have new captain , we have new platoon

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ss um new captain . We got , he's like

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really motivated gung ho guy . Um We're

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like , finally , we got the like good

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leadership . We're gonna do good this

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time . Uh We're doing all this extra

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training that he's like you guys need

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to be ready . You're gonna be the tip

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of the spear this and that . So we're

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doing all these like hard core training

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scenarios and stuff like that . We set

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up a Mount town in 29 Palms . Uh We

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were the first unit to actually use it .

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It's still there . Now , it's this

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giant mount training , uh mounts

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military operations on urban terrain .

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So it's like what you do in Iraq , go

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in buildings , that type of stuff ,

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clear it , we help set that up . Uh

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We're the first unit to use it . It's

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still used there . Now , if you go to ,

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um , you do mount training out there ,

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that's the same facility . But when we

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did it , it was like five boxes stacked

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on top of each shell . Um , so that was

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pretty cool . We do all this cool

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training and then a month before our

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deployment , we find out that we're

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gonna go to Fallujah and our captain

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decides he doesn't want to go to

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Fallujah . So retires um instead of

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deploying with us . So we're all kind

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of upset again . It's like now we're

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going in to Iraq with , you know ,

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unsteady leadership again . But this

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time , at least all of us young guys

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that were in the first deployment were

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now all now leaders , um senior

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leadership positions , team leaders ,

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uh squad lead , some of the our seniors ,

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the good ones that were there , the

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first appointment stayed in re enlisted

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and now there are our squad leaders .

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Um Platoon sert are all pretty good for

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the most part . So we were all locked

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in , excited and then we got a new CEO

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um and the officers in the Marine Corps ,

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they can come from any other um M OS

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and work an infantry unit , leadership

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position . So this guy was from , I

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think like an S shop S two S3 ,

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something like that , which was like

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paperwork , desk work type deal . So no

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infantry experience previously . Not a

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good start . We go to Iraq , go to

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Fallujah . We're stationed on the out

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like I think it's west outside part of

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Fallujah . Um We had black , there was

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an E C P which is an entry checkpoint .

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Um We worked traffic in and out of the

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city . There's like servant teams kind

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of like when you come up to your gate

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here to get on the base here . Um

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Little more rudimentary sandbags , sco

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bears that type of stuff . And then we

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had a dam that we worked as well . Uh

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We would rotate , we had four platoons ,

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1st , 2nd , 3rd and a weapons platoon .

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Each platoon would rotate between those .

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We had two at black , one at E C P and

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then one at the dam at all times . Um

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Voting is coming up around . I think it

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was October , October

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2005 . Iraqis are getting ready for

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voting . So the battalion commander ,

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it's like let's clear out the town .

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We're gonna do this big raid . We're

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gonna hit every , we hit every house in

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the whole town , outskirt of everything

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all at once . Um This giant operation ,

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it was pretty cool . Um We had kind of

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did some training like that where we

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went with a whole company and we did

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like this big snake they call it and we

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just kind of went in and raided all

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these houses at the same time . It was

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really cool . So , that's what we did

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there . Um , our platoon , we did it ,

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uh , no real action . Nothing too bad .

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Uh , found a few weapons , few

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explosives like that . Didn't take any

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real small arms fire , nothing like

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that . Weapons platoon was with our CEO

42:29.510 --> 42:31.969
um , they were securing a school near

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there and , uh , I , I'm in the humvee

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at this point because we're already

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finished . We hear we're all on the ,

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on the radio and we hear our captain ,

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this new captain or whatever , he's

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yelling at them to go in . And I

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recognize one of the guys on the radio

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who's telling to go f himself , we're

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not going in there . Um And then what

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happened was in the doorway of the

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school . They had put an I E D in there

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explosives that was gonna trigger and

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they had told him that and he was in so

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insistent that they go in there . Um

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But they wouldn't wanna go in because

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they're gonna get blown up and die . So

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the battalion commander ended up

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getting on the horn and told him to

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stand down . And uh so he got fired

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right after that . They took him off ,

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put him in uh camp Fallujah behind it

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is in some , we saw him later . He was

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in a , like a trailer behind the door .

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He had like a little tiny desk . Um

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When , when you swung open the door ,

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it would , it would hit his desk so he

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was on the no , no list for a while

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there . I don't know what ever happened

43:33.482 --> 43:35.538
to him , but I'm sure it was nothing

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good , hopefully . Um So we get another

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uh new C O in country there . It was

43:40.320 --> 43:42.389
the same type of situation . No ,

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infantry experience . Very new . Um

43:46.120 --> 43:49.050
Never listened to a lot of orders . Um

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27 , you're getting a theme here . 27

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has a lot of bad leadership . Um

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especially the time I was in just poor

43:55.760 --> 43:58.899
decision making , things like that . So

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we get the new CEO um that was

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October November , December ,

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November . We're , we're kind of

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working with them , figuring them out .

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We , we see , we know his flaws at the

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after like a couple of weeks , we could

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figure out what you're good at and what

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you're not good at and how we can get

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around uh working with you . But so

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what happened in November was they were

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the , um it was , were

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fighting at that point putting in like

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explosives in your O P S . So orders

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had come out O P S observation post not

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to reuse the same observation post more

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than once . If you do go back to that

44:40.052 --> 44:42.275
observation post , you have to sweep it

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with metal detectors . Well , um we ,

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he ignored that . We always use the

44:47.969 --> 44:51.290
same P S which nobody liked . Um So

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we're doing patrols November , we start

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doing the platoon , the second platoon

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that was in black , they would go out

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for a week at a time and just do

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patrols . You would sleep wherever ,

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take over a house , sleep on the roof .

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Um Because what they were doing was on

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the MS R that ran into Fallujah . They

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were planting I E DS at night time and

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stuff like that . So these patrols were

45:15.540 --> 45:17.707
set up to try to prevent that . We had

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to do observation posts on the roadways

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at night on the main MS R and there was

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only so many houses you can do there .

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So sometimes we would sleep in ditches

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and stuff like that in the desert . So

45:28.651 --> 45:31.610
we started that up um to last two weeks

45:31.620 --> 45:34.489
of November . Um That was us , that was

45:34.500 --> 45:37.300
my , um my platoon , we were all out

45:37.330 --> 45:40.459
with four squads at that point in time .

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I was a team leader , um training to be

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a squad leader as a lance corporal ,

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which is unheard of . Um So I had kind

45:48.419 --> 45:51.149
of had my own squad and we were doing

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different operations . We were out for

45:53.639 --> 45:55.639
one week . We were supposed to come

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back in . Um They denied us to come

45:58.520 --> 46:01.350
back in because the other weapons

46:01.360 --> 46:03.919
platoon just came back in or whatever

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and they were tired . So we stay ,

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stayed out an extra week , um doing the

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same stuff . We're just tired , there's

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no showers , there's nothing out there .

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Um It's hot in the day time , just

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exhausted . So we want to come back in .

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It's like November 30th 31st .

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Um , C L wouldn't let us come back in

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this point . We're in Flower Factory ,

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which is Observation post . We're

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living out there . We took it over , um ,

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from weapons platoon and

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December 1st comes , we want to go back

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again again . He said , all right .

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Well , we're gonna do a promo promotion

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ceremony first . Everyone got mad

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because why would we do a promotion

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ceremony in an observation post would

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just drive two blocks down the road to

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and do it there . It's not that big a

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deal . Most of the people were getting

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Wayne Coral , which is given to you .

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They had actually rated it like the

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month prior . Um So it was nothing

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special . No need to do it there . He

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insisted on it . Everyone's yelling at

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him or staffs are clay who was there .

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He's cursing them out and stuff on the

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radio like no , no , no , we're doing

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it . So it's night time . We got

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security set up . We're doing , we do

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the , he does the promotion ceremony .

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We're all together , which is stupid .

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You have 40 infantry marines standing

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in the middle of this flower factory ,

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which is not a real factory at all .

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It's a brick wall , probably the size

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of a football field , maybe not even

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half a football field . Uh Just a brick

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wall that used to pound flour in it .

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And that's why it was called the Flower

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Factory . So we're in the middle of

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this standing there . Um He does a

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promotion ceremony , bunch of P F CS G

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L couple got that was a big deal .

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Um And when you get promoted in the

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Marine Corps , we wear um metal

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chevrons and they like to hit you on

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the Chevron and jam it into your

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collarbone . So we did all that to the ,

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all the boots and the corals and stuff

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like that . Um , and then they're like ,

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ok , go back . So I was walking , I

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took about six steps , 6 to 10 steps

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forward and I was going back to my

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humvee to relieve the guy that was in

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the turret providing security . Um ,

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and I heard , hey Larson , I turn

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around and then just darkness like I

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don't know what the heck happened . I ,

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and that's when the ID went off .

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Basically , I wake up , I can't hear

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anything . I can't see anything . I

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have no idea what happened . I just

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hear it ringing in my ears and I open

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my eyes and , um , I just can't see

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like there's all this sand in my eyes

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and it hurts like I'm blinking , it's

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hurting . Um , I , I don't know what

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happened at that time . I just wake up .

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I thought my grenade had went off ,

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like maybe I pulled the pin or we got

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hit by a mortar . So I try to get up .

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Um , I'm like , trying to sit up and I

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couldn't get up . I , I couldn't move

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my arm . I couldn't move my leg . I can

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only move my left arm . So I was like

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freaking out . And um I just hear this

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voice and it was the last voice that I

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wanted to hear . At that point in time ,

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we had this guy named Kimball Kimba

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from Oklahoma . I don't know about all

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people from Oklahoma , but Kimball was

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not the best representative of , of

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Oklahoma . He , every time we talk to

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him it's one word answers , maybe a

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sentence he says at the most and he

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mumbles it and he kind of like it out .

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He sound like the guy from Blade if you

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ever saw that movie , Billy Bob Thorn ,

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Larson . Like , why did you join the

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Marine Corps ? Kill Bodies ? So

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when I wake up , I could finally like ,

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kinda hear stuff I , I could kinda like

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see a little bit and I see Kimba

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face over my face and I was like , God

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it , this is the last verse I want to

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hear and I think I said it out loud . I

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was like , f Kim or something

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like that because like , uh immediately

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after one of my other buddies gray was

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like my best buddy . He like , pushed

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Kim aside and he was like , Larson .

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Are you all right ? And I was like , I

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don't know , I can't see anything . You

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got all the scene in my eye and he was

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like , can't move my arm or nothing .

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What the heck ? And he's like , I'll be

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all right and he like , poured a bunch

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of water on me , which didn't help

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because it was like drowning me . Um

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But I'm still messed up and then I

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can't move or whatever . I'm trying to

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figure out what's going on . Nobody's

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telling me anything . Um I just

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remember like every time I blink the

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sands digging into my eyeballs . Um

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and still trying to figure out what

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happened . Like , I'm , I'm kinda

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reaching around to feel what's going on .

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I couldn't feel anything . Um And then

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do Jordan , the Corman comes over ,

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does some stuff and you're gonna be all

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right , like what he did was hit me

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with morphine . Um I remember laying

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there , it seemed like forever . It was ,

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I think it was 15 , 20 minutes . It

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actually took them to get me in the

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humvee . Uh What happened was uh the

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rest of the , there was 10 , all 40 of

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us were in this flower factory , the

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555 millimeter artillery shells blew up

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which pressure plate activated a 155

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shells like about the size of my leg .

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Here , there was five of those buried .

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So it was a massive explosion . Uh We

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had one squad that was about two miles

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away uh doing the MS R coverage as

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well and he said they thought the sun

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rose , that's how bright it was and

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large of an explosion . It was the

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largest explosion at the time . Uh

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December 1st 2005 . So what happened

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was , um , we all got blown up . 10

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people were seriously , 10 people died

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in that explosion . But at that time ,

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uh , the two Corpsmen we had , who were ,

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there were trying to work on them . And

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the problem was they got blown up too ,

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so they had to wake up and then realize

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what was going on and start working on

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people . So Doc Jordan , he got blown

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up , knocked out right next to me ,

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actually woke up a little bit after I

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did . And when he realized what was

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going on , started going right to work

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on me and then moved on . Um The

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problem was two things why we took so

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long to leave one , they couldn't find

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stash a clay and two , the first

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sergeant , we had had no idea what to

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do . So he was just sitting there in

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shock and awe , like paralyzed , not

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able to talk or do anything . So , um

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they ended up like , finally I think

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someone slapped him or punched him in

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the face or whatever and just rounded

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everyone up . They loaded up all the

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people that they , that weren't dead to

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the Humvees . And we took off to

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Fallujah Medical uh Clay .

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Unfortunately , they found him . He got

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blown over the wall into the darkness

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and we found him like a couple hours

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later . So I go to Fallujah Medical .

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Um This sound like I'm conscious or

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whatever , talking , everyone's talking

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to me trying to keep me awake because

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I'm tired . I'm just like , I'm so

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tired , I've never been so tired in my

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life at that point . Um So everyone's

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talking to me , they're doing this and

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that . Get the Fallujah medical . Um

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They cut off all my and stuff like that .

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They go to work on me , they're

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stabilizing me . People just coming in .

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I can only see people over me . So it's

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like someone here , someone here this

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and that um , finally like , whatever ,

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they're like , I think I heard someone

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say like , oh , I , I think we got it

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all or whatever and I was like , I'm

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tired , I'm gonna go to sleep and the

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guy's like , go , go to sleep and I was

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like , I'm going to sleep and that was

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it and I woke up , it was just in and

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out of it from that point on . Um , one

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point I woke up and someone told me , I

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think it was in Baghdad woke up in a

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room . Um , and it , it was an

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operating room . I think it was

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operating in the hallway or something .

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I don't know , there's all these

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doctors over me doing work on me and I

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was like , I gotta go pee and they're

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like , don't go pee . And I was like ,

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I gotta go pee and I went pee . And so

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it was like a lady because she's like ,

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because I got her

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so that I think they knocked me out .

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After that I woke up in a tent at one

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point somewhere . And all these , like

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people that weren't really that injured

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were there and they're eating pizza . I

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remember that because someone was like ,

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you want pizza and they're just , like ,

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nodded off again and then at some point

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in time , I guess they shipped me here .

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Um , I woke up here , I don't , I think

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was , I think it was in the IC U here .

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I don't remember that . I woke up in a

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big room . Um I couldn't , my arm was

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in a like stabilized . I couldn't move

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it . I think it was a big foam square .

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They put me in and it was like this .

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Um I had external fixator on my right

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leg and then I was in traction . So it

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was like up in the air and then my face

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was all charred . I had the sand blast ,

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the blast hit me all on my right side

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here . Um And the sand like blast hit

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my whole face . So it was like half my

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face was black , kind of looked like

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two face from the batman comic book .

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Um , still have that sand in my lip and

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stuff like that . Um So I woke up here ,

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Doc Jordan was here with me in one of

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our boots called Dion . They had minor

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injuries . Dion ended up getting

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shipped back . Doctor stayed with me um ,

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until I left , uh , Walter Reed in

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February of 2006 . Um , but I remember

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here , I woke up at one point and

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then , um , I had no idea what happened

55:56.389 --> 55:58.389
at this point too . This is , I got

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here , we got it blown up . December

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1st . I think it was here , December

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10th , December 12th , that time frame .

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Um , so he , and then he told me what

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happened and I remember crying . I was

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sad . Um He's like , yeah , we lost 10

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guys and he told me who they were . I

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couldn't remember half of them because

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my brain got rattled . Um But it was

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upsetting to hear that and I think it

56:26.520 --> 56:29.199
was the next day we got interviewed by

56:29.209 --> 56:33.090
CNN here . Um on the news ,

56:34.120 --> 56:36.176
they did a live broadcast which they

56:36.176 --> 56:38.398
confused me with Doc Jordan . Do Jordan

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is not a hard guy to recognize because

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he's a big huge black guy , bald and

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he's like really black . It's like

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Wesley Snipes kind of dark black . Um

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So I don't know why she asked us like

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10 questions . Each wrote down a bunch

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of our information . We go live and

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then she , she's asking me his

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questions , they have his name over my

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feed , my name over him and she's

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asking him my questions , asking me his

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question . It was a mess . I didn't

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find that out till later though because

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I don't remember doing the interview

57:13.308 --> 57:15.530
was on a lot of morphine at that time .

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So , uh my mom told me later , she was

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like , yeah , they didn't even have the

57:20.342 --> 57:23.179
right people . Uh Next big I did a lot

57:23.189 --> 57:25.411
of interviews here . I don't know why .

57:25.411 --> 57:27.411
Um Someone told me like , oh , it's

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just good to , to tell your story or

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whatever . Uh , next big guest we had

57:32.439 --> 57:36.370
here was the W W E and um , I

57:36.379 --> 57:38.820
met with a bunch of the wrestlers there .

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Um Triple H was the first guy I talked

57:42.479 --> 57:45.020
to . Um , they had some female

57:45.030 --> 57:47.340
wrestlers who I don't remember . And

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the big show came in , he was that , I

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remember that one because they had the

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big hospital doors here and he had to ,

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like , duck down to come through . Um ,

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um , and then he came over , he

57:59.219 --> 58:01.330
actually took our picture and we were

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on the cover of stars and stripes . Um ,

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for that , I guess it's weekly . I

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don't know when it comes out . Um , and

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then Mick Foley , I talked to , talked

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to me for a while . He's actually like ,

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graduated from an Ivy League school . I

58:14.441 --> 58:16.719
think it was Yale or one of those . Um ,

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and he told me , well , he's like , oh ,

58:18.997 --> 58:18.520
where are you going next ? And I was

58:18.530 --> 58:20.697
like , I don't , I don't know . And do

58:20.699 --> 58:22.866
Jordan was with me , he's like , hey ,

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you're going to , um , National Naval

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Medical Center in Maryland . He's like ,

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oh , he's like my old college

58:28.921 --> 58:31.032
girlfriend is a doctor there . And so

58:31.032 --> 58:33.032
if you get doctor . So , and so I'm

58:33.032 --> 58:35.143
like , I don't even remember the name

58:35.143 --> 58:37.199
right after he told me , um , he's ,

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he's like , oh , if you could talk to

58:39.310 --> 58:41.421
whoever , um , tell her you met me or

58:41.421 --> 58:43.643
something like that , I was like , ok ,

58:43.643 --> 58:45.755
um , which actually was a funny story

58:45.755 --> 58:47.810
because she was one of my doctors at

58:47.810 --> 58:51.199
Walter or Medical Center . Um , so that

58:51.209 --> 58:53.376
was cool . I met the commandant here ,

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which I don't remember . He remembered ,

58:55.653 --> 58:57.765
told me about it when I met him again

58:57.765 --> 59:00.870
in Maryland . Um Here though , the care

59:00.879 --> 59:03.820
was really good . I remember they , I

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have like the side nerve was taken out

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on my leg , nerve was taken out and

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they gave me this pump thing . It was

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like an experimental um pain management

59:14.433 --> 59:16.600
system or whatever . And it was one of

59:16.600 --> 59:18.767
the first people that got it here . Um

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I think it worked . I don't know , I

59:21.056 --> 59:23.278
didn't really feel any pain while I was

59:23.278 --> 59:25.278
here . So that was good . They also

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have me doing physical therapy and

59:27.222 --> 59:26.989
stuff like that while I was in the room .

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I remember that walking around , which

59:29.590 --> 59:31.812
I didn't do when I got to Walter Reed ,

59:31.812 --> 59:34.034
I sat there for two months . So it took

59:34.034 --> 59:36.257
me about a month to learn to walk again

59:36.257 --> 59:38.257
after that . So I flew from here to

59:38.257 --> 59:40.368
Walter Reed or National Naval Medical

59:40.368 --> 59:44.169
Center to Walter Reed . Now , um did

59:44.179 --> 59:46.290
the same stuff there . I did a lot of

59:46.290 --> 59:48.123
surgeries I think I had about 20

59:48.123 --> 59:50.290
different surgeries throughout my time

59:50.290 --> 59:52.489
there . I had the largest piece of

59:52.500 --> 59:54.722
shrapnel they ever took out of a living

59:54.722 --> 59:56.833
person there . So I had that record ,

59:56.833 --> 59:58.979
had the second longest surgery , um ,

59:58.989 --> 01:00:01.045
that my surgeon had ever done in his

01:00:01.045 --> 01:00:03.959
career , which was 18 hours . Uh , they

01:00:03.969 --> 01:00:06.270
put a titanium rod in my femur . My

01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:08.899
femur had been fractured . Um , he's

01:00:08.909 --> 01:00:11.131
like , it'll be a two small incisions ,

01:00:11.131 --> 01:00:13.187
about two inches big . One up high ,

01:00:13.187 --> 01:00:15.353
one up low . And it'll be like an hour

01:00:15.353 --> 01:00:17.520
long surgery . It'll be super fast and

01:00:17.520 --> 01:00:19.919
nothing to worry about . Woke up . I

01:00:19.929 --> 01:00:21.985
think the surgery was like eight AMI

01:00:21.985 --> 01:00:23.985
woke up and it was like four in the

01:00:23.985 --> 01:00:26.096
morning or something like that or the

01:00:26.096 --> 01:00:28.262
next morning and I was like , what the

01:00:28.262 --> 01:00:30.485
heck happened ? He's like , well , it's

01:00:30.485 --> 01:00:32.919
complicated . Uh , I guess part of the

01:00:32.949 --> 01:00:35.060
inside of the femur , he couldn't get

01:00:35.060 --> 01:00:37.116
the rod in . End up having to like ,

01:00:37.116 --> 01:00:39.969
slice my whole thigh and took all this

01:00:39.979 --> 01:00:42.090
work . He's like , yeah , we even ran

01:00:42.090 --> 01:00:44.368
out of your blood . I'm being negative .

01:00:44.368 --> 01:00:46.479
So it's kind of a rare type . I guess

01:00:46.479 --> 01:00:48.535
we ran out of your blood and we were

01:00:48.535 --> 01:00:50.535
just giving you plasma for like the

01:00:50.535 --> 01:00:53.310
last two hours . Um , but he's like ,

01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:55.264
at least he got the second longest

01:00:55.264 --> 01:00:57.320
surgery . I have data record . I was

01:00:57.320 --> 01:00:59.487
like , cool . Um , while I was there ,

01:00:59.487 --> 01:01:01.598
I met a lot of different people too .

01:01:01.598 --> 01:01:03.431
Um , President Bush I met at the

01:01:03.431 --> 01:01:07.199
hospital , uh , Alex Trebek Henry

01:01:07.209 --> 01:01:09.840
Rollins , I was a huge black flag fan .

01:01:09.850 --> 01:01:12.072
So that was cool . The person to meet ,

01:01:12.072 --> 01:01:15.760
uh , left there got sent home , came

01:01:15.770 --> 01:01:19.649
back there to get , you know , orthotic .

01:01:19.659 --> 01:01:22.949
They actually saved my leg . Um , the

01:01:22.959 --> 01:01:24.792
doctor had said if it was a year

01:01:24.792 --> 01:01:26.515
earlier , they would have just

01:01:26.515 --> 01:01:28.626
amputated it right away . Um , he was

01:01:28.626 --> 01:01:30.848
like you could still amputate it if you

01:01:30.848 --> 01:01:32.737
want . But at that point , I just

01:01:32.737 --> 01:01:34.848
wanted to get out of the hospital and

01:01:34.848 --> 01:01:36.959
was tired of surgery and morphine and

01:01:36.959 --> 01:01:39.126
all that . So I kept it , but I had to

01:01:39.126 --> 01:01:41.459
come back to get an orthotic to walk in .

01:01:42.040 --> 01:01:44.290
Um , so I came back and I was there at

01:01:44.300 --> 01:01:46.300
Walter Reed National Human Medical

01:01:46.310 --> 01:01:48.421
Center for about another month . Um ,

01:01:48.421 --> 01:01:51.600
so from May on , I was on my own at

01:01:51.629 --> 01:01:54.760
home . My unit , battalion commander

01:01:54.770 --> 01:01:57.750
called me like September and he's like ,

01:01:57.760 --> 01:01:59.927
hey , Lance corporal Larson , how's it

01:01:59.927 --> 01:02:02.149
going ? I was like , good . He's like ,

01:02:02.149 --> 01:02:04.149
what are you up to ? I'm like , I'm

01:02:04.149 --> 01:02:06.316
just at home . He's like , ok , like ,

01:02:06.316 --> 01:02:08.538
are you coming back to the unit ? I was

01:02:08.538 --> 01:02:08.330
like , I don't know , you guys tell me

01:02:08.340 --> 01:02:11.780
what to do . This is 2005 , I guess

01:02:11.790 --> 01:02:13.957
they didn't . And that , that was like

01:02:13.957 --> 01:02:16.080
the first seriously injured me and my

01:02:16.090 --> 01:02:18.312
buddy Grady was first seriously injured

01:02:18.312 --> 01:02:20.423
people that they ever dealt with , so

01:02:20.423 --> 01:02:22.534
they weren't really sure what to do .

01:02:22.534 --> 01:02:25.560
Um , so I ended up getting retired in

01:02:25.570 --> 01:02:29.149
2006 from the Marine Corps . Um ,

01:02:29.159 --> 01:02:31.510
floundered around for a while . Uh , I

01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:33.689
can't , I couldn't run at that point .

01:02:33.699 --> 01:02:36.070
The , I had this flimsy plastic brace .

01:02:36.310 --> 01:02:38.199
I usually went through them a lot

01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.366
because they're meant for like , older

01:02:40.366 --> 01:02:42.310
people , like , in their sixties ,

01:02:42.310 --> 01:02:44.254
fifties . Me being a young guy . I

01:02:44.254 --> 01:02:46.310
would go through them , like , every

01:02:46.310 --> 01:02:48.421
month . Um , but there's not a lot of

01:02:48.421 --> 01:02:50.532
jobs I can do . It was infantry , had

01:02:50.669 --> 01:02:52.891
no real prior work experience . Usually

01:02:52.891 --> 01:02:54.947
infantry marines when they get out ,

01:02:54.947 --> 01:02:57.002
they do police work , firefighting ,

01:02:57.002 --> 01:02:59.113
that type of thing , which weren't an

01:02:59.113 --> 01:03:01.225
option for me . So I bounced around ,

01:03:01.225 --> 01:03:03.336
um , doing a lot of odds and ends . I

01:03:03.336 --> 01:03:05.336
worked at Pizza Hut for a while . I

01:03:05.336 --> 01:03:07.502
worked at Sears . I sold insurance . I

01:03:07.502 --> 01:03:09.558
think I had like 15 jobs between the

01:03:09.558 --> 01:03:11.502
job I had in from when I got out .

01:03:11.502 --> 01:03:13.725
Eventually I got a job with the va they

01:03:13.725 --> 01:03:15.891
had a program where they hired wounded

01:03:15.891 --> 01:03:18.002
vets to do project management because

01:03:18.002 --> 01:03:20.280
it was a field that they were short in .

01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:22.502
So I T project management , information

01:03:22.502 --> 01:03:24.613
technology . So I went to a school in

01:03:24.613 --> 01:03:26.836
Maryland for two years , learned how to

01:03:26.836 --> 01:03:28.836
do it while I was there . I had met

01:03:28.836 --> 01:03:30.891
this army guy who was in the program

01:03:30.891 --> 01:03:33.002
with me and he's like , oh , have you

01:03:33.002 --> 01:03:35.225
ever heard of wounded warrior project ?

01:03:35.225 --> 01:03:37.280
And I was like , yeah , they call me

01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.447
every month and ask me how I'm doing ,

01:03:39.447 --> 01:03:41.725
he's like , no , it's not what they do .

01:03:41.725 --> 01:03:43.836
That's wounded warrior regiment . And

01:03:43.836 --> 01:03:45.891
the Marine Corps has wounded warrior

01:03:45.891 --> 01:03:48.113
regiment , which they just call you and

01:03:48.113 --> 01:03:47.439
ask you if you're doing how you're

01:03:47.449 --> 01:03:49.505
doing . If you need anything , stuff

01:03:49.505 --> 01:03:51.449
like that , he's like , project is

01:03:51.449 --> 01:03:54.070
completely different . He's like , um ,

01:03:54.699 --> 01:03:56.866
come to an event with me or whatever ,

01:03:56.866 --> 01:03:58.866
see how it goes . So we went to our

01:03:58.866 --> 01:04:01.032
event . The first event I ever did was

01:04:01.032 --> 01:04:04.879
Chucky Cheese . It was good because I

01:04:04.889 --> 01:04:07.270
had a , a daughter at that time um when

01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.729
she was three , but he came along , he

01:04:09.739 --> 01:04:12.229
had no kids . It's kind of weird . Uh

01:04:13.060 --> 01:04:15.629
What's wrong with this guy anyway , so

01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:17.750
we were playing games . I was beating

01:04:17.750 --> 01:04:19.806
him out on this and that . Um and he

01:04:19.806 --> 01:04:21.972
kind of kept doing that with me like ,

01:04:21.972 --> 01:04:24.139
oh there's this other event going on .

01:04:24.139 --> 01:04:26.250
Do you wanna come ? We did a bunch of

01:04:26.250 --> 01:04:28.417
Comic Cons in New York . Um stuff like

01:04:28.417 --> 01:04:30.472
that because I used to read comics ,

01:04:30.472 --> 01:04:32.583
like I was an artist in high school .

01:04:32.583 --> 01:04:34.917
So I drew comic books , stuff like that .

01:04:34.917 --> 01:04:36.917
And he was into comics too . He was

01:04:36.917 --> 01:04:39.028
actually in Walter Reed Army Hospital

01:04:39.028 --> 01:04:41.250
at the same time . I was in uh National

01:04:41.250 --> 01:04:43.250
Medical Center . So we were kind of

01:04:43.250 --> 01:04:45.417
down the road . Um So he was always in

01:04:45.417 --> 01:04:47.417
the comic books . I had been in the

01:04:47.417 --> 01:04:49.639
comic books . He was like , let's go to

01:04:49.639 --> 01:04:49.580
Comic Con New York or whatever it was a

01:04:49.989 --> 01:04:52.540
event , we went out to meet all these

01:04:52.550 --> 01:04:54.550
celebrities , artists , things like

01:04:54.550 --> 01:04:56.661
that . It was a great experience . Um

01:04:56.661 --> 01:04:58.717
So I kept doing those type of things

01:04:58.717 --> 01:05:00.939
and before that , like , I had a lot of

01:05:00.939 --> 01:05:03.050
problems , I would just sit at home ,

01:05:03.050 --> 01:05:05.879
drink all the time . Depressed ,

01:05:05.889 --> 01:05:08.056
couldn't do anything , didn't wanna be

01:05:08.056 --> 01:05:10.222
around , people , didn't like people .

01:05:10.222 --> 01:05:12.278
Um Especially if you're from another

01:05:12.278 --> 01:05:14.445
branch because Rings are like almighty

01:05:14.445 --> 01:05:16.445
or whatever . We think we're better

01:05:16.445 --> 01:05:18.389
than everyone else , especially if

01:05:18.389 --> 01:05:20.500
you're infantry . Um So it's still in

01:05:20.500 --> 01:05:23.060
that narrow , simple minded mindset .

01:05:23.429 --> 01:05:26.899
Um So he and he was an army guy which

01:05:26.909 --> 01:05:29.020
first , I kind of didn't want to talk

01:05:29.020 --> 01:05:30.965
to him because of that , but doing

01:05:30.965 --> 01:05:32.965
those events and that type of thing

01:05:32.965 --> 01:05:34.965
with him kind of got me out of that

01:05:34.965 --> 01:05:36.965
funk , got me out of that groove of

01:05:36.965 --> 01:05:39.076
just drinking all the time . Uh Being

01:05:39.076 --> 01:05:41.159
less depressed and introduced me to

01:05:41.169 --> 01:05:44.600
this whole new mindset and , you know ,

01:05:44.610 --> 01:05:47.250
view of , of people in general , not

01:05:47.260 --> 01:05:49.969
just other branches . Um And I kind of

01:05:49.979 --> 01:05:52.659
realized like everyone's pretty similar .

01:05:52.669 --> 01:05:55.340
We all had different experiences , took

01:05:55.350 --> 01:05:57.572
them differently but it all affected us

01:05:57.572 --> 01:06:00.649
in some way , shape or form . Um And

01:06:00.979 --> 01:06:03.219
there's different stages to that type

01:06:03.229 --> 01:06:05.451
of recovery and that type of thing . Uh

01:06:05.451 --> 01:06:07.396
Some people are still in the early

01:06:07.396 --> 01:06:09.673
stages . Some people are more advanced ,

01:06:09.673 --> 01:06:11.896
uh things you pick up along the way . I

01:06:11.896 --> 01:06:13.951
kind of realize all that . Now I did

01:06:13.951 --> 01:06:16.639
back then . Um So it was really good .

01:06:16.649 --> 01:06:19.399
Um That's , that's how project like

01:06:19.409 --> 01:06:21.631
helped me out was going to those events

01:06:21.631 --> 01:06:23.860
getting out and about , um got me out

01:06:23.870 --> 01:06:25.981
of my depression , my drinking , that

01:06:25.981 --> 01:06:28.429
type of stuff and then made me like ,

01:06:28.560 --> 01:06:30.919
change my view of people and have more

01:06:30.929 --> 01:06:32.929
respect for people and that type of

01:06:32.929 --> 01:06:35.159
thing . Um I've done other things with

01:06:35.169 --> 01:06:38.280
them . I've done Solder Rides , uh did

01:06:38.290 --> 01:06:40.623
Project Odyssey , which was really good .

01:06:40.623 --> 01:06:43.360
Um If you have PTSD , severe PST S D or

01:06:43.370 --> 01:06:46.110
any kind of PTSD um struggling with

01:06:46.120 --> 01:06:48.287
your emotions or things like that , do

01:06:48.287 --> 01:06:50.287
a project that will really help you

01:06:50.287 --> 01:06:53.500
helped me . I was pretty late , like ,

01:06:53.550 --> 01:06:55.790
and I was pretty good with PTSD at that

01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:58.889
point . Um So I kind of went and saw

01:06:58.899 --> 01:07:01.810
how I used to be , there's people there

01:07:01.820 --> 01:07:04.379
that are all different stages . Um But

01:07:04.389 --> 01:07:06.278
you're able to help those kind of

01:07:06.278 --> 01:07:08.389
people like , hey , this thing helped

01:07:08.389 --> 01:07:10.556
me try this , that type of deal . It's

01:07:10.556 --> 01:07:12.611
very good . It's a week long thing .

01:07:12.611 --> 01:07:14.778
They usually take you someplace nice .

01:07:14.778 --> 01:07:16.722
We went to Hawks Cay in Key West ,

01:07:16.722 --> 01:07:18.889
which is like super expensive resort .

01:07:18.889 --> 01:07:20.833
You can go fishing there , which I

01:07:20.833 --> 01:07:22.945
didn't get to do kind of bummed out .

01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:26.840
But um , so I've done that , those type

01:07:26.850 --> 01:07:28.739
of things with them that's really

01:07:28.739 --> 01:07:30.961
helped me . I've never really used some

01:07:30.961 --> 01:07:33.128
of the other ones but they do a lot of

01:07:33.128 --> 01:07:35.183
other great work . Uh Benefits , big

01:07:35.183 --> 01:07:37.239
thing . People use them for now . Um

01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:39.611
One of our buddies , they just helped

01:07:39.611 --> 01:07:43.110
him get 100% with the va so , and now I

01:07:43.120 --> 01:07:45.064
do this , which I never would have

01:07:45.064 --> 01:07:47.120
thought before . I it was , couldn't

01:07:47.120 --> 01:07:49.287
even like , uh Donna said , I couldn't

01:07:49.287 --> 01:07:51.398
even talk to two people , let alone a

01:07:51.398 --> 01:07:55.360
whole room full of people . So that's

01:07:55.370 --> 01:07:56.510
it . Any questions

01:08:09.939 --> 01:08:11.995
Donna and Mike ? I want to thank you

01:08:11.995 --> 01:08:14.050
from the bottom of our art for being

01:08:14.050 --> 01:08:15.939
here and uh presenting . Uh But I

01:08:15.939 --> 01:08:17.995
really wanna thank you guys for your

01:08:17.995 --> 01:08:17.649
service . I wanna thank you for your

01:08:17.660 --> 01:08:20.009
dedication . I wanna thank you . This

01:08:20.020 --> 01:08:22.020
is the most . I wanna thank you for

01:08:22.020 --> 01:08:24.020
those tests . Thank you very much .

01:08:24.020 --> 01:08:23.729
Let's do my

01:08:28.179 --> 01:08:30.401
um So that ends this session , the next

01:08:30.401 --> 01:08:32.235
session will happen in at 2 15 .

01:08:32.235 --> 01:08:34.123
That'll be uh command Major Clark

01:08:34.999 --> 01:08:37.148
presenting . Why does it matter ? And

01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:39.270
uh currently going over on the heaton

01:08:39.270 --> 01:08:42.338
is Major General David who will be

01:08:42.349 --> 01:08:43.909
there until 3 30 .

