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Good morning everyone . It is

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11 a.m. And we are going to get started .

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My name is Shauna MacNeil and I am the

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Deputy program Manager supporting Mr

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Tim Williams . As we set up this

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Department of the Air Force University

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affiliated Research Center or you arc .

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This is a first for the Air Force and

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this will also be the first Hbcu led

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you are . So I want to welcome you all

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to this event . This is the first of

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several as we come together to make

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sure that we provide as much

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information as possible to potential

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applicants so that they have the

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information they need to provide us

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with a competitive proposal . This is a

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historical time and we in the

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Department of the Air Force are

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grateful that you have interest in this

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you arc . So in case you didn't know

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you should have heard when you logged

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in this speeding will be recorded .

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Well it is being recorded right now

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and without further ado move right

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on to the next slide .

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So these are the people that you will

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be hearing from today and I'll

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go through our overview , We're going

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to start out with hearing about our

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Industry Day purpose . So this is

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something that we're calling a mini

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Industry day leading up to the big

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event in august and hopefully you all

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have heard about that and you'll hear

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more later on , you'll hear about the

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agenda for today , we'll get background

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on how this all came about and what

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this will be about moving forward .

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You'll hear requirements , We're going

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to be giving information about

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expectations for the proposal

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preparation and what we want to see in

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a proposal wow will also give you

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information about the broad agency

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announcement that will be posted and

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then you'll hear about awards . Um

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there will be a Q and a session at the

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end , but as you will hear , we are

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open to answering questions throughout

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the event today and without further ado ,

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I'm going to turn it over to Mr Tim

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Williams . Hey , thank you so much Sean .

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Hey , can you hear me ? Just to make

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sure my mic is still transmitted

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awesome , awesome . Hey uh so thanks

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Shauna is MS McNeil stated I am Tim

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Williams . Uh you are project lead and

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I cannot tell you how excited I am ,

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how emotional this is for me . Um

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really getting this program off and

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running um is dr Coleman and the

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Secretary of the Air Force Mr Kendall

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stated it's long overdue and I don't

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think that anybody would begrudge that

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point . Um we don't have a whole lot of

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time today , so , so let's get right to

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it . Um and Sean has stated this is the

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first to events that will be conducting

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at the Action Officer level . Action

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officer level for me means the folks

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that are rolling up their sleeves and

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will be us in terms of the government

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preparing other requirements and then

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you uh from the university perspective ,

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your offices of sponsored research ,

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your scientists are your controller

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types and other individuals will be

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involved in this . So us getting

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together and uh and getting after the

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best products both from the government

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and then from the proposals . The

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second event that we have scheduled is

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for 29 July but those of you who have ,

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excuse me For those of you who have

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visited our website um you see that

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there are placeholders both for 29 July

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as well as the large industry day that

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Dr . Coleman will lead on nine August

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um Those will be populated very soon

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you have the opportunity to register

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for for those upcoming events as well

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uh but in addition to my team providing

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you with the requirements , this is

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your opportunity to ask questions and

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shape the final broad agency

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announcement uh also known as funding

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opportunities , we absolutely want to

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hear from you , your input is important

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and please do not hesitate to raise a

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hand , Excuse me , come off of your

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microphone . Oh come off of mute . And

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uh and interject immediately . This is

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I would much rather us ask questions

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and ensure that we have properly

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answered your questions versus uh you

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know , train what we call back in the

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army training to to the standard versus

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training to time . This is a great

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opportunity for you to to help shape

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this as we continue to move forward .

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Um and if you do as you do , if you do

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have questions please when you come off

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of your off a mute , just give us your

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name , your organization and your

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institution school and ask your

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question will be capturing this because

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what we want to do is ensure that there

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is A comprehensive understanding of the

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questions and the answers that we

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provided across the board and we will

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post that information within the 48

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hours following this event . Next slide

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please ,

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for those of you that signed in early

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you saw the schedule , I won't belabor

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the point . Well attempt attempt to

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stay on time . But again , what's most

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important is the dialogue that will be

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created which absolutely leads to

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understanding both from the government

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side and from your perspective we will

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have multiple opportunities to cover

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all of this information as I stated

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previously . Uh So don't think that

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this is your only opportunity to engage

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next slide please .

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So let's start up just a little bit

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with a background on how we arrived at

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where we are today . Um We have known

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that the federal government requires a

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diverse national stem workforce .

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That's not at question at all . Uh

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There have been some opportunities for

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underrepresented populations , stem

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populations . Uh and they are

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increasing . However , we also know

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that we can do better to further

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increase the representation within D .

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O . D . This program . This you are is

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not a panacea by any stretch of the

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imagination but it is one of the

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efforts that we can impact . We the

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department , the Air Force can impact

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directly and we need to pursue it . Um

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the areas in gray represent the

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Department of Defense's Department wide

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stem strategy to diversify the

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stem workforce . The major attributes

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of those four areas are inspiring

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community engagement and D . O . D .

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Stem programs attracting the current

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and future stem workforce , increasing

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participation of underserved and

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underrepresented stem groups and

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advancing the efficiency and

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effectiveness of stem education ,

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workforce development and more

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importantly and really important to us

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is evaluating the our effectiveness .

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Uh and we'll talk about that too as we

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continue with this presentation and

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with the discussion today , our efforts

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are to bake in from the very beginning .

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The requirements for this you are ,

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which is a five year comprehensive

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review and so providing that

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understanding initially . So that you

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identify within your proposals those

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requirements as we move forward . Will

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uh in uh in essence uh save us time

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identify those areas so that we are

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evaluating from the onset . Next slide ,

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please sean .

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So how do we settle on tactical

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autonomy . Excuse me . We've made

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progress and autonomy writ large within

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the Department of Defense , but we do

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have a ways to go . The three areas

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that you'll hear continually talked

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about today really are lines of effort .

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Our trust in mission autonomy um and

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entrust admission , admission of time .

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It will require a degree of

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predictability for comprehensive except

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acceptance . We must achieve

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predictable behavior and strong

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assurance as well as ethical operations .

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The second major line of effort is

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collaboration between platforms and it

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will require increased capacity and

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data driven machine learning to achieve

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acceptable levels of interoperability .

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And the third and final , major line of

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effort is the human machine teaming .

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Um This will be required in the

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foreseeable future to mitigate the

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absence of reliability , whether real

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And or perceived if you think about , I

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think it was 1856 or so when the first

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elevators were installed in buildings .

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Um they were big , they were staples in

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big cities , sky skyscrapers as well as

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tall buildings . Uh and for over 100

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years they had elevator operators that

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were there to um to assist the

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customers in some parts

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as a result of perceived absence of

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reliability . And so those are the

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things that we're looking to tackle .

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That third and last line of effort is

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specifically related to human and

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machine teaming . Next slide please .

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But then more specifically this is how

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we arrived at the point that we're at

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today . There was a cacophony of

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seemingly unrelated events uh

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that began between strangers uh that

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we're thinking big and they had an eye

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towards shattering the status quo . Uh

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my boss who you'll get to meet here

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probably in the next couple of weeks .

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Uh Mr wanda Rooney was directed to

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establish a diversity equity inclusion

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and accessibility office . That was a

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direct report to the Secretary of the

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Air Force That occurred back in 2019 .

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She met my new boss , dr victoria

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Coleman , the chief scientist of the

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Air Force . And they were discussing

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and asking about big ideas specifically

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within the diversity equity inclusion

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and accessibility arena . They did

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realize that not a single one of the 14

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Department of Defense University

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affiliated research centers were led by

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historically black college , a minority

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serving institution . And this is

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exactly the kind of thing and program

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that they wanted to uh to to really

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make a visible and a definitive change

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as it related to underrepresented and

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underserved populations . So they grab

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their colleagues and colleagues of

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colleagues of like minds within the

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Department of the Air Force and the

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Department Defense uh to develop a plan .

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Um although the fiscal year 22 nd A is

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referenced here previous . N . D . A N .

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D . A . S also advocated for these

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advances as well . Next slide , please

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excuse me . But then with the support

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within the Department of the Air Force

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and Department of Defense and guidance

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from policy , the team presented the

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plan to the Secretary of the Air Force

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Mr Kendall On 25 March . He approved

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the plan and we've been off to the

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races ever since and we are running

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very very fast ah from inception to

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to us issuing an award . We're

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talking just a little bit over 8.5

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months . Um that is really on on

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steroids in terms of expediting this

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process in this plan to get the things

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done that need that need to be done so

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in in in in in support of that . We're

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building this plan . We're seeking

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approval from our U . S . D .

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Undersecretary Defense research and

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engineering counterparts while

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conducting outreach and engagement . So

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you can imagine the level of activity

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that that is pervasive at this point in

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time for us to be able to do that . And

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I think we do have some representatives

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from uh the U . S . D . R . And D .

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Research and Engineering here . Again

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they've been part of this process from

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the from the onset . Um The chief

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scientist is the program sponsor . Uh

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The Air Force Research Laboratory or A .

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F . R . L . You'll see that that phrase

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coin is providing the contracting

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activities and a whole lot more at this

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point in the at this stage of the of

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the process . Uh And then lastly the

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concept Development Management office ,

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my home office is providing the

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oversight and the management as we

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build these plan . Working with these

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different organizations . Um We are

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advised by the undersecretary of

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Defense for Research and Engineering ,

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Undersecretary of Defense for

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acquisition and sustainability as well

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as the undersecretary of Defense for

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personnel and readiness and they have

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been critical to this uh this evolution .

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Uh And we continue to work hand in hand

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to ensure that we're meeting not only

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the intents of the department defense ,

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but as we reach out and have these

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conversations with the prospective

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proposals that we're meeting those

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intense as well . The next flash on

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and from a program description

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perspective , this program will

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establish an hBCU led university

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affiliated research center consortium

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uh to conduct research focused on

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tactical autonomy . Most important to

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this effort is the transition of the

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technical research into practical

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application and I can't emphasize that

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enough . That has been one of the

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things as we started and I came on

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board back in april time frame and had

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discussions with as many university

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affiliated research centers as possible

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to include the organization ,

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undersecretary of Defense for Research

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and Engineering About challenges that

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they've had over the last 50-60 years

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as it related to two you are . And

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their biggest point of contention or

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concern , I'm gonna call it contention

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was the transition of the technical

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research into practical application .

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And so we have to be focused within

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that specific arena . We don't want

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research that's sitting on the shelf .

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We want to be able to utilize this

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within the Department of Air Force ,

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specifically in Department Defense at

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large . Now , the phrase that dr

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Coleman likes to use is opening the

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door from the research lab to the war

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fighter and she's absolutely right . As

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a matter of fact , she's out of the

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ground as we speak in europe um , at an

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exercise event , understanding from the

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ground and the tactical level , some of

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the concerns and issues they have

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within their equipment and she will ,

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you know , bring that information back .

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But it's about creating that connective

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tissue between those what we do from a

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scientific perspective to to what the

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warfighter requires . Excellent ,

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please .

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So the objectives of the program . Our

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objectives include identifying creative

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approaches to autonomy research to

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enable our mission sets , minimize the

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human supervision . And there are

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geared towards operations that are

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complex and unpredictable and

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unpredictable environments in multiple

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operating areas . As you can see that

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we've identified airspace , cyberspace

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ground and see that was intentional .

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We know where the department of the Air

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Force , but as we become the subject

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matter experts with the , with the ,

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with this specific you are , we want to

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ensure that we are able to to identify

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and continue to be speeds across the

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spectrum . And again , that's that gets

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after that those multiple operating

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areas , we must enable early access to

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future stem professionals . We must

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increase opportunities for historically

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black colleges and universities today

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and other minority serving institutions

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and minority institutions in the future .

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Excuse me ? Anyone that has ever heard

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me speak about this um , and telephone

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calls and email conversations , uh what

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whatever the case may be in any venue ,

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they know that my catchphrases that

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this will be the best you are within

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within the Department of Defense of the

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14 that they have and that starts here

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and it starts today with us creating

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these uh relationships with the

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universities that I can propose and the

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universities that will support um as we

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continue to move forward . But I I that

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will absolutely continue to be my

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catchphrase because we will be the best

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you work within D . O . D . Shawna next

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slide please . So I'll briefly cover

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the major areas really the three

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primary areas that we're looking at .

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And then you get to no longer hear my

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voice , get a change , we'll bring up

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our technical smes after this .

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But those three major areas for the

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requirements are we anticipate the

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experts will follow suit . My experts

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will come up and they'll they'll have

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the conversations with you . But from a

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technical perspective we're looking at

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basic and applied research uh in what

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we stated before those three lines of

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effort , which is the trust admission

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autonomy of the collaboration between

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platforms and of course the human

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machine teaming from the consortium

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perspective we're looking at are two

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classified universities that will lead

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the consortium of historically black

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colleges and universities with at least

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one on the path to achieving an R one

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classification . Uh You know , within

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the five years we're not that's not a

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specific requirement that it has to be

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done but definitely we want to ensure

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that we're making progress towards that .

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Uh and we want to ensure that we're

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establishing a state of the art

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research facility . We want to assemble

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the talented researchers , increase the

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pool of available talent and establish

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an ecosystem of business , government

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and academia to transition the

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technology back to what we were

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referencing before to the warfighter .

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The education uh component is about

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supporting the K through 12 and post

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secondary education programs and

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activities . And with that being said ,

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I will be followed by dr juan Vasquez

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and he'll discuss uh specifically the

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technical requirements for the program .

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Thanks tom . So what I'm gonna do is

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I'm gonna give you a real world example

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to cover the next four slides . I think

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it'll actually help ground the

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discussion . I'm not gonna I'm not

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gonna read through each of the slides

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because they're kind of eye charts and

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they're there for your background . Um

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and and also thanks tim his his energy

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level is contagious . He's recovering

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from covid , you wouldn't know it but

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uh this is this is him at low energy

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anyway , so which is wonderful . So so

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let me give you this quick example .

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Let's talk about a couple of aircraft

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demand and unmanned aircraft

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cooperatively working to basically

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execute emission of detect targets I .

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D . Targets and then maybe even engage

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and attack the targets enemy forces .

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And the I'm gonna use this example to

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hit the three main areas and the first

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ones on the next chart . If we go to

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that one . Um and and understand that

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what we're talking about here is , you

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know , how do we bring trust into the

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the between the autonomous system the

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the the the man system in this case .

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Um And again I'm I know I'm using this

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this aircraft example but I also want

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you to think outside that box a little

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bit . I mean these could be business

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processes where an acquisition

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specialist is working with contract

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data . It doesn't all have to be you

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know a classic engagement type Air

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Force missions . There's there's a lot

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of Air Force missions that this kind of

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thing could this work could apply to .

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But I'll keep this example because it

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helps ground it . So let's say that the

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manned aircraft gives authority to the

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unmanned aircraft to execute some

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portion of the mission that ultimately

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you know attacking the enemy aircraft .

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But but collateral damage can be in

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play here . So we have to be very

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careful about what the autonomous uh

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portion of the mission can can execute .

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So in this trust area assume that that

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the manned aircraft has given what we

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call bounded authority to the unmanned

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aircraft . And maybe that bounded

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authority means he'll only allow them

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to do the detection and the I . D .

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Portion but not the attack . And that

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may be because we just haven't built

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the level of trust between the

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autonomous aircraft and and the manned

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aircraft . So um they they may not

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give authority to all parts of the

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mission in which case it's bounded

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authority . That's just one kind of

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simple example but as we advance our R

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and D . And some of the things you'll

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see in the bullets in this chart as we

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collect more mission data to establish

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higher levels of trust in the models

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that are used with uh , with with the

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unmanned system . We may be able to

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hand off more of the mission to it as

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we improve our test and evaluation

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validation verification processes um ,

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in these very , very challenging

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complex systems like the one example

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I'm giving then then as we increase

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that trust , then we we can we can give

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more authority . So that's really what

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this area is about is trying to build

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that kind of relationship . Okay , next

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slide . Now let's talk about

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collaboration between the platforms .

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So we have this very large surveillance

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area and both of the aircraft , the

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manned and unmanned aircraft have to

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optimize their detection of this area .

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And so the collaboration between them

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is very important . And and at times we

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need the two aircraft to operate

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completely independent of each other

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and then have periods of communication

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between them to update what , what the

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view of the surveillance area looks

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like . So as as again , as we advance

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our research and development a couple

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of bullets you see here is we can

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improve the distribution of the

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workload between the man and unmanned

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platforms . We can make it better as we

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as we advance the R and D . Uh and then

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also this idea of compose ability at

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the bottom one of the one of the last

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bullets . They're allowing the

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solutions to combine together to

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accomplish a task that independently

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couldn't have done well . In other

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words the manned aircraft wouldn't have

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had enough surveillance , you know

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coverage to really cover the area . So

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it needed the unmanned system and and

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how we make those work together . Okay

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next slide . And in the last area being

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the human machine interface and Hugh

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machine teaming uh aspects is

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understand that that is the unmanned

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aircraft tries to optimize its search

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pattern . It has to communicate back to

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the manned aircraft . And what does it

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avoid ? What does it send in terms of

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information and how does it avoid uh

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overloading the humans Right while it's

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still optimizing the search . So so

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that that communication method and what

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information is shared is there is an

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area of research , you know how do we

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basically allow the human teammate to

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have a good mental model of what the

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tactical autonomy system is doing its

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often doing its thing and while it's

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office doing its thing what is it going

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to communicate back to the human to let

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it know where it's succeeding , where

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it's failing and what needs to be done

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next . And and also how do we reduce

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the cognitive workload as an example

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here in one of the bullets of a human

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right ? Uh just because you put an

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autonomous system in play . I've seen

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this in studies before many times . We

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build this really cool autonomous

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capability . But we don't actually

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reduce the workload cognitive workload

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of the individual . They spend as much

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time interacting with the cognitive

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with the autonomous model as as if they

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had just done the work on their own .

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So that's a key thing . You know , we

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have to do these studies in the right

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way . We have to build the right kind

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of experiments to validate that . Okay .

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And then I'll close with with just a

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general statement that , you know , we

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in the Air Force have a lot of assets ,

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we we have a lot of equipment both in

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terms of um you know , compute we have

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a lot of test environments for for

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aircraft and such . So so those are the

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kinds of resources that we want to

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bring to bear in this uh through this

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you arc , you know , we're going to

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share what we have both in terms of ,

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you know , equipment but also expertise

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in working with you . And so so think

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about that as as you you you figure out

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your strategy forward that you that you

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consider that there's gonna be a lot of

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government furnished capabilities along

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with the talent that you're bringing

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into this into this fight . If you want

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to call it a fight uh to to solve the

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overall problem and I think that's

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important . We're gonna build those

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relationships . That's what john and

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TIM are all about . They're gonna help

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build those relationships between us .

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The S and S and F . R . L . For

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instance , and and you and the you are

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okay . I think I'll stop there unless

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there any question . If not , I'll hand

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it back to two . Mhm .

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A dr Vasquez , thanks so much . And yes ,

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this is a really um good opportunity

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time . Now , if you do have any

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specific questions , especially as we

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talked about the technical requirements

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or anything that we've stated thus far ,

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please don't hesitate to come off your

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microphone . This is for much for you

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uh in terms of helping to shape the

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broad agency announcement as we move

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forward as it is for everyone else . Uh

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Then I don't mind being interrupted .

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So the consortium , the recipient

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uh the the the proposal that that is

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selected um well lead the consortium .

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And we're looking uh specifically for

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an R . Two classified the university ,

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excuse me , to create an open and

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collaborative team of experts focused

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on planning and executing the tactical

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autonomy program requirements . Uh You

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add in in uh in de facto become uh the

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Department of Defense subject matter

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experts for long term expertise within

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the tactical autonomy arena . Next

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slide please ,

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as you're looking and thinking about

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the planning for the consortium . The

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plan should identify the development of

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a consortium coordination plan ,

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agreement between the lead and the

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supporting universities . Um They

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should outline the responsibilities of

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the League and what those supporting

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historically black colleges and

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universities uh , and the staff and

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faculty are going to do in terms of

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required support for managing this

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effort . The league will have the

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overarching responsibility for meetings

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for deliverables for annual production

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planning , program evaluation and

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outreach and distribution of funding

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for structure and operation planning .

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You should summarize the organization ,

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the governance structure and management ,

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the allocation and distribution of

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funding , the performance , evaluation

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and improvement plans as required as

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well as the education and training

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requirements for the next generation .

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The consortium plans should identify

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how the tactical autonomy stem

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objectives will be coordinated ,

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distributed and achieved . I

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think , you know , I'll answer one of

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the prevailing questions that has come

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to our attention via multiple channels ,

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is he does the , does the Department of

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Defense currently have university

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affiliated research center uh , that is

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organized in a consortium fashion The

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answer to that question is yes . The

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stevens Institute of Technology , The

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Systems , the Engineering Research

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Center based out of New Jersey . You

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may have , if you see it , you'll see

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sit sort with just just the acronym for

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for those words , they're out of New

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Jersey there , led by dr danish

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verma and uh , the stevens Institute

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has , is the lead and I think today

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currently they have about 22

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universities that are supporting that

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effort . They've learned some very

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valuable lessons . Uh , dr verma has

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been instrumental in my understanding

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about how to craft and formulate what

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we should be looking for , what the

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university should be planning for , and

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a lot of that has been communications

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on the front end . He said that was a

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huge lesson that he learned . Um he

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spent a good considerable portion of

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his budget as he was building out this

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consortium team to go and visit the

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universities and understand what their

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proficiency ease and expertise is in uh

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and uh so that as requirements came

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across the board , he knew exactly the

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university he should be speaking with

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and the specific primary and uh

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investigators that were available to

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accomplish the task that were coming

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down . So that was critical I think ,

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and in in in in his development and he

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continues to be a resource for us uh

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and anybody else to use and he said

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that he definitely make himself

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available uh before I transitioned to

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Dr Nathaniel boy who's our education

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lead uh to talk their specific pieces ,

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It looks like we may have some

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questions that have come up in the chat .

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Either you can present those if they

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are questions and or the person who had

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written it in . Uh please come off . Um

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you identify yourself and let us know

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how we can answer over Hi Mr Williams ,

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this is brian , thank you , We do have

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a couple of questions . One from Mr

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Zachary smith , he asked , will the

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deck in the recording of this

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presentation be shared ?

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Yes , Mr smith , Absolutely . Um

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the presentation should be available

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and at the very end of our discussion

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here today uh the um you're gonna see

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the link to the website . Mr Ripoll

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brian ripple is going to post that link

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as soon as it's it's done . So you have

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the recording immediately depending

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upon the questions That are generated

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today . We want to make sure that we

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capture them as within our facts portal

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to frequently asked questions and with

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the appropriate response and within 48

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hours . Excuse me . That information

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will be posted as well And the slides ,

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most importantly those were gonna be

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posted within that 48 hour timeline as

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well . So no later than and then this

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friday the information will be

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available for you , writ large over

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Thank you . The next question comes

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from Mr victor McCrary who asked does

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the recipient organization have to

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demonstrate financial , administration

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and administration of security

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requirements such as C . U . I . Or

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classified ? Yeah . Hey , so uh I think

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it's Mr Mccreary , what's your name ?

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It's probably dr mccreary . Um Yes ,

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yes it is . And let me just introduce

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myself . I'm victor McCrary . Vice

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President for research at the

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University of the District of Columbia

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and Vice chair of the National Science

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Board , awesome , awesome . A sir , a

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pleasure meeting you . I did recognize

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that name from the distribution list

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and I knew that I think there was a PhD

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component associated with it . So you

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can call me just don't call me late for

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dinner please sir . We'll make sure

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that happens . I got somebody else that

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had said to me , hey tim you got this

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over lunch . Are you planning to send

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me lunch ? So I can , I don't have to

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worry about stepping away . So I got

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you covered doctor mccreary . Uh no ,

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really , really good questions . And

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and that information will be contained

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lexi . Thanks for coming out . I think

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you're about to jump into , but thanks

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for coming off of your mic . Uh it will

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be covered in the broad agency

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announcement , those specific

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requirements as they relate to

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financials as well as there is a

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security portion that will be included

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as well . Um and you will just , you

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will have a responsibility for writing

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to those requirements lexi that I

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capture that correctly or that I'm

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missing the Lexus , our contract

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specialist and she always keeps me

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pushing me in the right direction . No ,

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that's great . Um , and just you know ,

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just to give you the information . Now ,

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the primary ingredient will be

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responsible financially and for

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security requirements of course . Um ,

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everything flows down right . Um , so

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it's down to the consortium members as

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well . If you have them working on

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something that might be classified ,

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they will also be required to get a

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facility clearance and personal

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clearances . They will need to manage

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their financial and budget similar so

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they can report things to you . Um So ,

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but the ultimate responsibility will be

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with that prime University that

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receives the award . Let me ask you a

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follow on question because those

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security uh , flow down from the uh ,

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d . and everything that people will

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have to have for that . Does that also

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require that people who work on

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projects in the consortium for the ,

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you are , you have to have U . S .

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Citizenship ? Um , so if they are

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working on something that's classified ,

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um , they other portions of it , if

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they're working on the grant , um ,

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basic and applied research portion of

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it . No , they would not be required to .

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But if it is on the contract and it's

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classified then yes , they would . And

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would you and I don't know if you

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thought of this , but I know this is an

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open discussion about when you put out

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the B . A a could that lead institution .

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If they're the recipient could they

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also contract out the

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financial and security requirements

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long as they meet your nice palm and

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Defar requirements to handle the

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finances and the security . Hmm .

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Uh , that's an interesting concept . Um ,

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I think we probably need to explore

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that a little further . I'm just saying

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there might be some of us who already

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have affiliations with certain you arcs .

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And so if in the process , the

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recipient , while they can build up

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their both their finance and gets their

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CSOs in place to do it . Good

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flow those , those responsibilities to

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say another , you are with the

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understanding that that you are has no

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governance function . All it doing all

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that's doing is processing contracts

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and clearances while they get this up

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to speed . Um That might be that might

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be something to consider because then

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it would give the recipient some time

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to build that up you know because right

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now starting a been issue and having to

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do that and will require that might

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disqualify many recipients

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understand we will definitely take that

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in consideration . Thank you . Thank

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you know dr those are excuse me . Those

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are really really good questions and

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exactly what we're trying to get after

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within this discussion today .

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There may be specific instances either

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with your university or other

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universities that have similar kinds of

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concerns uh and we want to be able to

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address those because the beauty of

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this is I know my team right now

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they've captured this specific issue .

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We're gonna take this to our security

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personnel and ask that so we can get

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you the definitive answer . That's 100%

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right in the quarters of policies uh uh

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and the guidance that that's been

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published and capture that into our

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verbiage to as we move forward so that

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we can reduce any ambiguity as it

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relates to this specific issue and

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others . So thank you for bringing that

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up uh and we will capture that as I

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said it before and then get the

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definitive uh no nonsense answer back

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out to your post haste any

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additional questions while we've got a

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pause in here , I think we've gone from

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2 to 7 . Looks like uh rip into mr

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ripple in terms of the conversation in

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the chat . Yes Mr Williams . That's

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right . We have a comment from mr R

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chris who says non hbcu can it include

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R one institutions ? Mr chris feel free

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to amplify if you need to . Yeah ,

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what I mean is if if anarchy

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Hbcu is a lead institution , can it

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include other hbc US as well as

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uh M . S . A . S . And R . One

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institutions . Yeah . Hey , so sir ,

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that is a really , really mr Kristo dr

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chris . Excellent question . So and

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this has even come up in my

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conversations with dr Coleman . So here

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is the the short sweet acid and I'll

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expound upon it just a little bit . The

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short sweet answer is any funding from

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this from the Department of the Air

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Force ? Excuse me in this case , also

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receiving funding from the Under

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Secretary of Defense Research and

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Engineering and undersecretary of

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Defense for acquisition and

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sustainability total $12 million .

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Right . And then lexi she's gonna miss

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potter is gonna talk about this here in

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a little bit that funding is going to

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historically black colleges and

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universities period full stop if you

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happen to bring in an R . One

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institution for pro bono work or I

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think I can't remember the verbs that

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we use but basically in kind they're

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providing or you're providing

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researchers to that university as a

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result of you doing that , there is a

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cost associated with it . They are

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providing you something in kind back .

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They can be included the funding from

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the funding line though we cannot fund

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and will not fund through this effort .

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Anyone that is not a historically black

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college and university period . Full

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stop . Does that help answer your

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question ? Absolutely , thank you . I

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think you say as pro bono in one of the

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slides , so that confirms it , thank

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you . And that information to is is

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even better explained . Uh and the

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language that will be included in the B .

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A . So that there are no issues for

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missing . Thank you so much uh for the

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Institutes of Higher Education

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providing pro pro bono or any kind of

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support . And we will explicitly

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stating that out in the in the broad

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agency announcement . But thank you for

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the question . Thank you . Thank you .

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So that I think that kind of answers

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the next question which came from eric

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muth with north Carolina A and T . Uh

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he stated , what role do you see for

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non hbcu universities ? Yes , you

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addressed my question . Thank you very

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much . Hey dr good seeing you , how are

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you ? Thank you sir .

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Okay . Um

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let's see . Next question comes from

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victor Gavin , given your focus on

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transition , are you accepting of

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industry partners as well ?

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Oh absolutely . Uh thank you so much

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for that . Um We don't have a lot of

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discussion about that here in the uh

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in the presentation but it's an

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excellent question because one of the

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things that are available for your

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utilization um that's not directly tied

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to the this basic broad agency

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announcement is something called the

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Mentor Protege program and then sean if

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you would remind me uh so I can get the

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link out to everybody that's here . Um

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But it's a D . O . D . Program

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sponsored by the undersecretary of

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Defense for acquisition and

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sustainability . Uh The MPP is the

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Mentor Protege program and what the

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intention behind that program is is it

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takes small businesses that you may be

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working with locally and regionally

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within your community , You may be

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doing business with them today . Um Say

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for instance , it's the tim Williams .

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Whatever tim Williams has never done

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any contracts with the federal

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government , whether the department ,

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defense or otherwise . What this mentor

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Protege program and the funding that's

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earmarked is set aside to do is to take

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tim Williams company partner him

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with uh someone larger within a defense

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industrial base . Thank you . Your

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Raytheon's North of romans that you're

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all these other big players that do

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this on a routine basis um ensure that

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I have the appropriate skill sets ,

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whether they be training certifications

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uh that I've set up accounts on grants

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dot gov or whatever the requirements

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are in order for that small business

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now to capitalize maybe as it's

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associated with maybe in other areas at

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the end of this the there are no cost

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then . So the cost that the larger

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business within the defense industrial

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base would incur as well as the cost

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associated excuse me , that small

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business uh to get to the point where

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they're able to to complete compete uh

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and uh and and receive contracting

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opportunities and actions uh they are

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funded by this program . Uh And so that

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is a huge huge piece . You know , we

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talk about ecosystem , ecosystem ,

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ecosystem within between academia ,

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department , Defense the defense

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Industrial base . Specifically that is

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one method that will be available for

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use in order to to to accomplish those

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those objectives . I hope that answers

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your questions and not too much of a of

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a roundabout way over . No it does .

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Thanks a lot appreciate it . And tim

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that answered al Sweets question as

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well . So you don't have to go to that

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question . Hey I am killing two birds

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with one stone as we're rolling through

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this thing . I'm loving it anything

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else victor McCrary added but we

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could sub to a R one U . A . R . C .

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For non research contractual services .

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You can sub if there is you can sub to

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anybody you want us up to as long as

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they are not getting funding off of

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this vehicle . So if you to an R one

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institution because of like we said

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before either pro bono work that

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they're doing or in kind R and D

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support as long as dollars from this

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broad agency announcement are not going

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to that are one institution . I don't

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think that they're gonna be any

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concerns or issues with you doing that .

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Great question . Okay . I think that

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was the last question . Unless I missed

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something , please speak up everybody .

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If if you have a question good , this

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is eric music . I have a question about

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kind of the relationship with the Air

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Force as this goes forward . So , you

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know when the stevens , when cirque was

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stood up at stevens institute , really

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the the lead was selected and then they

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sort of built the consortium after it

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was funded . So my understanding of

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this is it's built the consortium as

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part of the proposal . And so I'm

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interested in learning about the

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partnership with the Air Force and A .

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F . R . L . And what the expectation is .

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And let's say this , the Newark is

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funded , It's january and we start

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activity . What what does that look

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like ? What does it look like ? Um as

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we begin to grow this consortium ,

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stand it up , build out the

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capabilities etcetera , what does the

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collaboration with the Air Force look

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like a doctor with a really excellent

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excellent question . Um I'm gonna see

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how it can be efficient in my responses

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to you . Uh So let me start with

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uh specific relationship with

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the Air Force , whoever is the

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selected uh to lead this consortium

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uh at the end of the day , you got me ,

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you'll have me and some uh

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litany of you know , we've got some

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requirements out for our palm cycle .

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That long story short , there should be

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about seven individuals or so that

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number may have been flow that are

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going to be dedicated to ensuring the

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success of this university affiliated

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research center contracting personnel

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FMS uh me as a program Manager , deputy

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program manager , security folks

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Working uh to enable uh this effort .

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And so you will have that access 24 7

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365 or anything related to this

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specific . You are the intention behind

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that is we become the connective tissue

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when you aren't available to attend .

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Chief Scientist of the Air Force

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meetings , a Pharrell requirements that

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are coming out , things that are

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happening within the Department of the

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Army , Department of the Navy as a

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relates specifically tackle autonomy .

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We are your if I could use a military

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phrase , we are your pathfinders or

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your scouts . So we're out there in the

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community specifically as it relates to

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D . O . D . Looking for additional

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opportunities , being able to present

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that back to you . But really being

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that bridge between the Department of

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Defense , specifically Department , the

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Air Force and the and the academic

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institutions . But again available all

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the time . Um So that is that

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partnership , what we will have

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established to as part of our charter

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is a board of advisors to dr

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Coleman , those will be senior level

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individuals within the Department of

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Defense , both the Air Force and D . O .

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D specifically ustr any U S D A N S and

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U S D P and R . And they will convene

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at a minimum of a quarterly basis and

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what they'll be looking at our part of

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your your your question . The second

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part was you should have annual

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production plans , you should have a

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long term roadmap coming out of this

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that talks about , you know , here's my

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and production plan if I win this uh

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contract focused in three these three

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major areas as well as the subordinate

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operational imperatives I think is what

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we call them . Uh there are six of

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those , this is what we're planning to

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do that first year , which is pretty

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solid . And then out for the toll of

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five years , here is our roadmap and

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then this is what we think we're going

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to look like . Uh as we start to

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prepare for the five year comprehensive

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review . So that gives us the , you

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know , short and long term planning uh

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anticipate expectations from you and it

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helps not only you and the university

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with the UR management team , but it

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also helps with us explaining to the

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larger Department of the Air Force .

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These are things that we anticipated

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achieving in a year out to five years

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as we do this , coordination , these

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are opportunities for certain

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technologies to transition out of

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practical apple out of theory and

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research and the hypotheses into

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practical applications and we always

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want to under promise and over deliver .

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And so that's the mindset that we're

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gonna take because again , this will be

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the best you are in the Department of

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Defense . And so I I think I've either

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directly answered the questions that

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you had or at least tapped around or

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giving you some other ideas and and and

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thought processes as we look at ,

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continue to develop this . Oh , the one

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other piece that I missed . So within

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the university and what we just talked

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about as it relates to the consortium

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coordination plan , that's truly your

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ability to work with were the lead ,

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whatever school that is , tim Williams

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University , I've got lexie potter ,

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that's part of my consortium University .

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I've got Shauna MacNeil , another part

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of my consortium University . I am

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establishing the metrics the governance ,

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the funding lines , how are we going to

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do all these things and that will be

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part of my annual and long term

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production planning . Uh and we have

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created this relationship where I know

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as the lead university information

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comes in , say that it is some of the

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softer skills and not necessarily

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heavily in the science technology

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engineering and math trusted mission

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autonomy is um is one was just talking

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about part of that is ethical autonomy .

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That's a softer skill that may not be

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resident in my university , but Shauna

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Macdonald University or lexi potter

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University may have a legal department

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or have a law school are doing a lot of

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work within that arena . So I know as

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the lead , when I have requirements

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that are related to that , I'm getting

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my 2-3% pass through and it's going VFR

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director Sean Archer Lexi , I'm not

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even gonna , you know , pretend that

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I'm going to do anything with that .

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And so that's the kind of thought

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process of mindset we'd like you to

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have again . Another question that has

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come up . Well , do we have to have

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relationships with the universities

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that will be part of the consortium If

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I'm gonna be the leaders were building

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out that plan now we don't need

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anything definitively in writing . We

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do expect though and have an

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anticipation that you've had

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conversations with the potential

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schools that can support based on your

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understanding of a larger plan . I

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think I need these types of

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universities in order for us to

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facilitate the requirements of the

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Department of the Air Force has laid

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those out . I hope that helps if you've

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got follow ons , we've got time to , to

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get after those , but this is a

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critical part of what we're trying to

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accomplish over ? Hello . This is

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Charles . Weather ford at florida A and

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M . University . Hello Doctor Weather

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ford , how are you ? Very good . How

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are you doing ? I am awesome . So I

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have a question about the consortium

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and how we can construct it . So we are ,

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you know , looking at consortium

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members now but occurs to me that after

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the award is made to a lead , can we

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add other HBC use to the consortium in

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order to maximize the capability of

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that consortium ? Dr Weatherford is

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like you read my mind , I was

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absolutely thinking about that .

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Perfect , perfect question . Uh , so as

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part of the consortium coordination

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plan and planning , um , everything is

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not going to be perfect . Uh , in terms

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of additions , hey , we realized going

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in we thought x but we've got these

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additional requirements for why at any

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point in time you can identify other

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institutions that you need to bring on

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board in order to support and further

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the efforts that you're currently

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working . Um , you develop that you

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make the recommendations back through

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us , the management team from the

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government side will propose that and I

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don't see any reason why I would ever

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be a no , but we propose that back to

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Dr Coleman who has a lead . She gives

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us the stamp of approval and we're off

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to the races and doing what we need to

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do . Let's do the flip side . I've got

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a university that said they could do X ,

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y and Z , but they were only able to do

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X our under our ,

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our um ,

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I was gonna say understanding but

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that's not really right . Our

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anticipation for the lead university is

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you've covered that in your consortium

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coordination plan , you know that the

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university is not performing to

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standard for whatever reason , there

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could be a litany of reasons why that

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you have an ability to do performance

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improvements no different than , you

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know , working with an individual . If

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they still fail to achieve the desired

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requirements based on the performance

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improvement planning that you've done

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working with them , you absolutely have

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the authority to recommend removal of

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the university from the , from the

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consortium . Again , that

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recommendations , well founded goes up

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to through me to DR Coleman . DR

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Coleman gives you the thumbs up . We're

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off to the races again uh and uh and

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continue to execute along these

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requirements . I hope that helps . It

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does , thank you very much . Yes sir .

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All right . How we doing ? Okay . Mr

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Williams . I see a hand up from victor .

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Mccreary , come on , Mr Mccreary , come

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on . No , no , no , I think you I think

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you answered that question already . So

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let me just lower that hand down .

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Thank you . Very good . I have a

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question Yes sir . Doctor , how

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about H B C U S that are not our can

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we include those in our consortium and

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share funds with those institutions ?

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Absolutely , you are not . You could

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have let me answer this to to wait .

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Mhm . Say again . Tim Williams

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University and lexi potter University .

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Both of us are our two classified

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institutions according to the Carnegie

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Research Foundation classification . Ah

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tim , I do better lexie wins the

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proposal and she says , hey tim you

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have some really unique requirements .

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I understand you're an archer

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institution . Would you be willing to

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work with us within this specific arena ?

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And Tim says yes . So I can now or lexi

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now can have our two institutions that

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are also supporting this contortion ,

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the same thing for schools that are

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three or below , as long as they're H B

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C U s or have no classification at all .

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If they are bringing to bear some

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capabilities that you deem necessary in

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pursuit of these requirements .

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Technical education , excuse him .

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Consortium or otherwise you have the

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authority to expend the funding to

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bring those institutions uh into your

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into your consortium over . Thank you

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sir . This is Annika from Bowie

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State University , Assistant Vice

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President for Research . My question is

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kind of a follow on to that as a our

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three emerging institution . We

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certainly have capabilities to bear on

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this opportunity . Can we connect

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with different institutions that are

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leads in essence be on more than one

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application because we know what we can

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offer dr sequoia . Yes ,

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absolutely . If you know that you have

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a capacity and capability in a certain

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area , this be a is a broad agency

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announcement , it will be out to the

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masses as you're reviewing these

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requirements . You say , we've got a

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really , really good uh capacity and

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capability to do X , Y and Z within

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that broad agency announcement . My I

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highly recommend and advocate for you

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to reach out to every all 12 R two on

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the question . 11 are two classified

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institutions today and offer your what

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you can bring to bear . That is a the

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additional way of conducting uh these

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institutions . But the Department of

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the Air Force Department , Defense do

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not want to get involved in is

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directing . We don't want to be

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punitive or directing in nature that

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says howard or or fam you or whoever

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you have to use X , Y and Z . We want

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you to bring the best of the best . And

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uh part of that is Doctor , I hope I'm

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saying your name right . Uh

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uh you know dR has come to us and you

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may find yourself in 11 of the plans

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because you have something so unique or

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such , you know , such a great

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capability that every one of the lead ,

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potential leads have identified um you

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as a as a member of the plan . And

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that's perfectly fine , perfectly

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acceptable . Thank you . Yes , ma'am .

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Yes , tim . We have another question .

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Does the recipient of course ,

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Consortium institution have to have

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folks holding clearances ? It's not a

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requirement uh anticipate that and and

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if you need to ask , follow on , please

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come off of um you know , it is not a

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requirement going in , we anticipate

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within the first probably six months

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we'll probably be removing moving from

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some basic research into some

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classified correction , some basic

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research to imply research . We

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anticipate those things happening down

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the road as we stated at the very

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beginning of this , the chief scientist

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of the Air Force is your sponsor . Uh

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There are sponsorship requirements that

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we have as a result of this . As I was

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stating earlier , one of the positions

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that I have to hire for and I do have

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access to other organizations in the

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interim is security folks . So they're

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gonna help to get you ? That is So the

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issues and the are gonna help us

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process the security personnel .

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Security requirements we may have uh

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there's likely to be as we develop this

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and move down the road into the future

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uh requirements for um classified

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spaces especially as we get into that

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applied potentially prototyping

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advanced technology kinds of things .

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Uh So we're anticipating those , those

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kinds of efforts moving forward . So

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Doctor Williams . That was my question .

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I was just gonna say it is part of

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being part of a consortium or what have

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you if we can so demonstration where we

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have faculty members who are holding

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tickets . Uh That is helpful . It is it

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is definitely helpful . It's not but it

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does not preclude those who don't have

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that from applying and potentially

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being accepted so yes , thank you .

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Thank you . Dr McLeary . What else do I

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have out there ? Okay , it looks like

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we are caught up right now . Alright ,

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awesome . Doctor Nathan . Your boy .

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Thank you for your patience . Uh Dr

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Boyd has done some phenomenal work

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force uh you know , really really

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digging into and identifying well these

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education requirements are so I am

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going to give my voice a break uh in

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transition to Dr Nathaniel Boyd and

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he'll cover the stem education over .

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Thanks tim , Good morning everyone . So

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I have just one slide , but I was told

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yesterday that I get as much time as I

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need and I've had my coffee so I might

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set a record for the most time on one

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slide on this thing . So I'm just

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kidding , but I do want to just give

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you an overview of what the department

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does in terms of some education and why

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this is so important . Um and really ,

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you know , really drive the point home

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that this you work is going to be a

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little bit different um in than the

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existing you works in terms of really

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baking in the stem education pieces

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into the overall plan and requirements .

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But you know , in my conversations with

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folks in the department and in in the

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community , I do not think this is

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going to be an issue at all for hbcu es

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especially as you all have a large

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community impact . And so um really , I

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just want to kind of get the point

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across of like what our office does and

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why why we think this is really really

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important piece of this you are . Um

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and so really , you know , as a

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department , the D . O . D . Is both

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investing in emerging technologies but

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increasingly paying attention to our

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stem workforce . Excuse me . And

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really our our department is committed

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to providing a wide variety of these

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high quality stem education

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opportunities . Um and really from the

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spectrum all the way from pre K to PhD

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and post post ed . Uh and so this this

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could include but aren't limited to

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competition , professional development ,

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paid internships , scholarships , um

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which the latter which allows high

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school and postsecondary students to

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work along some of the department's

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premier scientists and engineers um in

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some of these very very well renowned

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defense facilities facilities . Um and

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really one way that the department is

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able to provide all of this is through

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our strategic partnerships . Um and in

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particular I think within um within

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OsD , within the services , I think

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we're increasingly realizing that you

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arcs are very important partners um

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within the department that really can

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provide and and enrich some of this

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pipeline activities . So you know ,

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we , I think this is really , really

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important and I'll just share with you

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a couple of statistics that um is

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really kind of driving our efforts here .

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But overall the D . O . D . Has about

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300,000 stem professionals . They

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employ over half just under half Of

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the total federal stem workforce , many

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of these professionals serve as science

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and engineers and they work in more

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than 60 defense laboratories and

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centers spanning across 200 locations

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around the world um importantly and I

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just talked to my colleague this

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morning to confirm these numbers um and

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focus on here from P and R . May may

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slap my hand a little bit , but I just

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want to say that um you know we're

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tracking our office tracks in

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particular the civilian sne workforce

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numbers . Um and right now we're

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looking at about 19.4% of the stem

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professionals across the O . D .

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Identifies racial and ethnic minorities

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and specifically . 6.5% of these are

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african american and so you know , as

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part of one of our strategic elements

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that that Mr Williams mentioned in the

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beginning of this presentation , we are

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hyper focused on building this pipeline

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from the ground up to support some of

01:00:01.730 --> 01:00:04.520
the challenges in the S and T .

01:00:04.520 --> 01:00:06.687
Workforce that we have going forward .

01:00:07.110 --> 01:00:09.230
So a couple of the things that our

01:00:09.230 --> 01:00:11.670
department tracks um and really

01:00:11.670 --> 01:00:14.410
encourages and connects folks with is

01:00:14.420 --> 01:00:17.730
um focusing on outreach programs that

01:00:17.730 --> 01:00:19.970
partner with our duty science and

01:00:19.970 --> 01:00:21.859
engineers that include mentorship

01:00:21.859 --> 01:00:24.730
coaching and other volunteer activities .

01:00:25.110 --> 01:00:28.980
Um And during fy 2020 D d offered

01:00:28.990 --> 01:00:31.170
a broad range of these activities and

01:00:31.180 --> 01:00:35.070
overall had a collective 221 programs

01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:37.420
serving nearly one million students and

01:00:37.420 --> 01:00:40.330
30,000 educators . Um and these efforts

01:00:40.330 --> 01:00:42.552
are reflective of the entire department

01:00:42.552 --> 01:00:44.790
including the Air Force . So really I

01:00:44.790 --> 01:00:48.600
think um you know that is a bird's eye

01:00:48.600 --> 01:00:51.180
view of of you know what our department

01:00:51.180 --> 01:00:53.402
is doing , what our office is doing and

01:00:53.402 --> 01:00:56.210
what we're paying attention to . And we

01:00:56.210 --> 01:00:58.640
have been graciously been invited to

01:00:58.640 --> 01:01:00.850
this effort to kind of advise and

01:01:00.850 --> 01:01:03.940
really help the Air Force really figure

01:01:03.940 --> 01:01:06.320
out how best to go about including

01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:10.100
these tenants in the U . Arc the UR

01:01:10.100 --> 01:01:12.980
plans . So I'm not going to read the

01:01:12.980 --> 01:01:15.830
slide to you , but I think most

01:01:15.830 --> 01:01:18.490
importantly here , uh you know , a lot

01:01:18.490 --> 01:01:20.712
of what I just mentioned this , you arc

01:01:20.712 --> 01:01:22.990
is going to be focused on pulling in

01:01:22.990 --> 01:01:26.110
the stem workforce , focused on

01:01:26.120 --> 01:01:28.680
autonomy . And so this includes some of

01:01:28.680 --> 01:01:31.060
the ethics that that Mr Williams

01:01:31.060 --> 01:01:32.920
mentioned earlier , as well as

01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:34.809
curriculum development related to

01:01:34.809 --> 01:01:36.910
autonomy , including autonomy ethics

01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:39.640
and really focusing on , you know ,

01:01:39.640 --> 01:01:42.830
coming up with efforts To achieve

01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.062
equitable access to this education in K

01:01:45.062 --> 01:01:47.480
through 12 efforts across different

01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:49.202
geographic areas and different

01:01:49.202 --> 01:01:51.091
populations that are historically

01:01:51.091 --> 01:01:53.202
underrepresented in the stem fields .

01:01:53.202 --> 01:01:55.424
Um and so I think the overall goal from

01:01:55.424 --> 01:01:57.536
the stem piece is just to promote the

01:01:57.536 --> 01:01:59.647
wide spread understanding of autonomy

01:01:59.647 --> 01:02:01.840
principles . And I think that um you

01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:03.896
know , H . B . C . U . S are are are

01:02:03.896 --> 01:02:06.770
well poised to kind of to make an

01:02:06.770 --> 01:02:10.060
impact in that area . So I think with

01:02:10.060 --> 01:02:14.020
that that is all I have um I will

01:02:14.020 --> 01:02:17.430
say that we are still formulating some

01:02:17.430 --> 01:02:20.890
of the metrics that we would like for

01:02:20.890 --> 01:02:23.112
the you are to provide and we're trying

01:02:23.112 --> 01:02:25.223
to decide how specific we want to get

01:02:25.223 --> 01:02:28.190
or allow the UR . Um applicants to kind

01:02:28.190 --> 01:02:30.760
of come up with their own metrics that

01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:33.038
are most relevant to their communities .

01:02:33.038 --> 01:02:36.080
So um and if there are no questions ,

01:02:36.090 --> 01:02:38.930
I will leave it to Miss butter .

01:02:40.200 --> 01:02:41.200
Mhm .

01:02:43.700 --> 01:02:46.620
A a doctor boy . Thank you so much . A

01:02:46.620 --> 01:02:48.731
Lexus . You're coming . I'm dr excuse

01:02:48.731 --> 01:02:50.898
me , Miss potter , excuse me if you're

01:02:50.898 --> 01:02:53.064
coming off a mute , I did see a couple

01:02:53.064 --> 01:02:56.010
of questions Mr ripple . Uh That came

01:02:56.010 --> 01:02:58.288
in . Some of it was related to funding ,

01:02:58.288 --> 01:03:00.399
which is probably a really good segue

01:03:00.399 --> 01:03:02.400
for miss potter over . Yes , that's

01:03:02.400 --> 01:03:05.330
correct . We have a question that came

01:03:05.330 --> 01:03:07.940
in Is the funding $12 million

01:03:07.940 --> 01:03:09.770
$2 million

01:03:09.770 --> 01:03:13.520
$12 million dollars a

01:03:13.520 --> 01:03:17.120
year ? You know , I we I'm definitely

01:03:17.120 --> 01:03:19.231
gonna cover that in my slides . So if

01:03:19.231 --> 01:03:21.453
it's all right , I'll just go ahead and

01:03:21.453 --> 01:03:21.400
go through them and if there's still

01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:23.511
questions remaining on that , then we

01:03:23.511 --> 01:03:25.511
can touch base on that again . Very

01:03:25.511 --> 01:03:27.470
good . Thank you , ma'am . Good

01:03:27.470 --> 01:03:29.692
afternoon . I am lexie potter the grant

01:03:29.692 --> 01:03:31.748
and contracting officer for this you

01:03:31.748 --> 01:03:33.692
work ? Um Glad that we got the fun

01:03:33.692 --> 01:03:35.859
stuff out of the way . Now we'll cover

01:03:35.859 --> 01:03:37.914
the business aspect . So some of you

01:03:37.914 --> 01:03:40.081
might get excited . Other of you might

01:03:40.081 --> 01:03:41.803
want to pull out a pillow . Um

01:03:41.803 --> 01:03:43.970
basically I'm going to cover what's in

01:03:43.970 --> 01:03:46.240
the B . A . And what we want to help

01:03:46.240 --> 01:03:48.630
you to prepare the best proposal to

01:03:48.630 --> 01:03:52.300
submit . Uh So for proposal preparation

01:03:52.310 --> 01:03:54.740
we're looking for proposals that

01:03:54.740 --> 01:03:57.160
demonstrate and articulate a clear and

01:03:57.160 --> 01:03:59.049
unique and innovative approach to

01:03:59.049 --> 01:04:01.271
achieve the technical requirements that

01:04:01.271 --> 01:04:03.382
we just discussed . We're looking for

01:04:03.382 --> 01:04:05.604
new and creative solutions and advances

01:04:05.604 --> 01:04:07.771
and knowledge understanding technology

01:04:07.771 --> 01:04:09.827
um that are state of the art . We're

01:04:09.827 --> 01:04:12.049
looking for the proposal to demonstrate

01:04:12.049 --> 01:04:13.938
a clear and complete creative and

01:04:13.938 --> 01:04:17.260
achievable approach um For developing

01:04:17.260 --> 01:04:19.850
and leading a consortium of HBC us , as

01:04:19.850 --> 01:04:23.020
tim mentioned . Uh the goal is to get

01:04:23.020 --> 01:04:25.370
at least one university from R to to an

01:04:25.370 --> 01:04:29.220
R . one um utilizing this consortium .

01:04:30.090 --> 01:04:32.620
We also are looking for proposals to

01:04:32.620 --> 01:04:34.453
depict management structure that

01:04:34.453 --> 01:04:36.231
supports the development of the

01:04:36.231 --> 01:04:38.050
ecosystem in autonomy related

01:04:38.050 --> 01:04:40.650
disciplines between academia , the

01:04:40.660 --> 01:04:42.882
Department of the Air Force D . O . D .

01:04:42.882 --> 01:04:45.104
Small businesses and local and regional

01:04:45.104 --> 01:04:48.590
regional communities um with specific

01:04:48.590 --> 01:04:50.757
goals of establishing autonomy related

01:04:50.757 --> 01:04:52.930
infrastructure , establishing autonomy

01:04:52.930 --> 01:04:54.819
related business partnerships and

01:04:54.819 --> 01:04:56.930
establishing a long term relationship

01:04:56.930 --> 01:04:59.300
with the Air Force and D . O . D . Um

01:04:59.990 --> 01:05:02.212
So those are some essential things that

01:05:02.212 --> 01:05:04.434
we're looking for . Um And if you wanna

01:05:04.434 --> 01:05:06.490
go to the next slide , we have a few

01:05:06.490 --> 01:05:06.330
more that we'll be looking for in the

01:05:06.330 --> 01:05:07.010
proposal

01:05:18.510 --> 01:05:20.566
gonna be able to move that forward .

01:05:44.490 --> 01:05:46.712
It looks like we have a little bit of a

01:05:46.712 --> 01:05:50.060
glitch . Uh mr Ripoll . Would you mind

01:05:50.060 --> 01:05:53.780
sharing slides , are you guys

01:05:53.780 --> 01:05:57.140
seeing the yeah , we're just seeing you

01:05:57.140 --> 01:06:00.950
now , miss potter . Okay , I'm

01:06:00.950 --> 01:06:03.117
sorry , it's saying . My connection is

01:06:03.117 --> 01:06:06.210
unstable right now . Okay , I don't

01:06:06.210 --> 01:06:08.266
know if you can hear us , but we can

01:06:08.266 --> 01:06:10.880
still see you . Um uh and and have you

01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:13.150
on the screen uh Miss McNeil , are you

01:06:13.150 --> 01:06:15.206
there or did your connection dropped

01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:17.647
Tim ? I I can take care if you want me

01:06:17.647 --> 01:06:19.591
to . I thank you so much , sir , I

01:06:19.591 --> 01:06:21.890
appreciate it one second . No problem .

01:06:21.900 --> 01:06:23.980
And Miss Potter , I think we were on

01:06:23.980 --> 01:06:26.790
slide number 22 or 23 .

01:06:33.780 --> 01:06:36.090
Okay , can you see sled ? I know

01:06:37.080 --> 01:06:40.930
Uh 21 went up . Okay , well ,

01:06:40.940 --> 01:06:43.500
I have presentation mode . Sorry ? Oh

01:06:43.500 --> 01:06:47.490
good , thank you . Dr Vasquez .

01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:51.720
Okay , there we go . Okay , so what

01:06:51.720 --> 01:06:53.553
we're also looking forward to be

01:06:53.553 --> 01:06:55.776
included in the proposal is to identify

01:06:55.776 --> 01:06:57.998
stem education research development and

01:06:57.998 --> 01:07:00.164
related activities to support K 12 and

01:07:00.164 --> 01:07:01.998
postsecondary education programs

01:07:01.998 --> 01:07:05.250
activities . Um what Mr Boyd was Dr

01:07:05.250 --> 01:07:07.620
Boyd was talking about previously . Um

01:07:07.630 --> 01:07:09.519
we're looking to see those in the

01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:12.100
proposal . We're also looking for um

01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:14.391
you know , information to promote the

01:07:14.391 --> 01:07:16.447
widespread understanding of autonomy

01:07:16.447 --> 01:07:18.447
principles and methods to create an

01:07:18.447 --> 01:07:20.391
educated workforce and the general

01:07:20.391 --> 01:07:22.558
public able to use products enabled by

01:07:22.558 --> 01:07:24.724
autonomous systems and adapt to future

01:07:24.724 --> 01:07:26.947
societal and economic changes caused by

01:07:26.947 --> 01:07:29.058
autonomous systems . So , I know this

01:07:29.058 --> 01:07:31.058
is a lot of information , these are

01:07:31.058 --> 01:07:33.169
really just the key things that we're

01:07:33.169 --> 01:07:35.336
gonna be looking for in the proposal ,

01:07:35.336 --> 01:07:37.558
The B A . Will be um more specific . We

01:07:37.558 --> 01:07:39.613
just kind of want to give you a good

01:07:39.613 --> 01:07:41.836
idea of what we're gonna be looking for

01:07:41.836 --> 01:07:43.891
in the proposal . Um And speaking of

01:07:43.891 --> 01:07:46.002
that , the B . A . A . Um if you want

01:07:46.002 --> 01:07:48.780
to go to the next slide please , the B .

01:07:48.780 --> 01:07:51.280
A . A . We do have a number listed for

01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:53.502
it . So be on the lookout for that . It

01:07:53.502 --> 01:07:55.447
will be posted to grants dot gov .

01:07:55.447 --> 01:07:57.410
We're looking to release that next

01:07:57.410 --> 01:08:01.160
month um sometime and with

01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:03.690
proposals that will be due in october

01:08:04.170 --> 01:08:06.680
Uh following that we're looking for an

01:08:06.680 --> 01:08:09.200
award data around eight December with

01:08:09.200 --> 01:08:11.256
performance to begin one February of

01:08:11.256 --> 01:08:14.750
2023 once that B . A . Has been

01:08:14.750 --> 01:08:18.400
posted , all questions will be sent to

01:08:18.410 --> 01:08:20.577
the email address listed at the bottom

01:08:20.577 --> 01:08:23.080
of the screen . Um and we can answer

01:08:23.080 --> 01:08:25.247
those for you specifically for the B .

01:08:25.247 --> 01:08:28.010
A . A . Slide . So our anticipated

01:08:28.010 --> 01:08:30.010
award , we are looking to award one

01:08:30.010 --> 01:08:33.080
grant and possibly one contract to one

01:08:33.080 --> 01:08:36.070
university and then that consortium

01:08:36.070 --> 01:08:38.070
will be managed by that one awarded

01:08:38.070 --> 01:08:40.800
university . Um I say that we may do

01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:43.022
one grant and one contract , I'll get a

01:08:43.022 --> 01:08:45.189
little bit more specific on what we're

01:08:45.189 --> 01:08:47.300
looking for in terms of that . Um but

01:08:47.310 --> 01:08:48.921
definitely one grant and the

01:08:48.921 --> 01:08:51.032
possibility of the contract depending

01:08:51.032 --> 01:08:53.680
on what , how the proposal is given to

01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.590
us . Um And if we see what kind of

01:08:56.590 --> 01:08:58.890
needs that were seen in those , The

01:08:58.890 --> 01:09:01.390
estimated value for a is a total of $60

01:09:01.390 --> 01:09:04.390
million $12 million dollars per year .

01:09:05.170 --> 01:09:08.770
It would be a five year grant um and or

01:09:08.770 --> 01:09:11.430
contract with an anticipated period of

01:09:11.430 --> 01:09:13.720
performance . Beginning one February

01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.680
2023 through 31 , 2028 . Um

01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.910
after the five years uh you are re

01:09:19.910 --> 01:09:22.780
certification occurs um to determine

01:09:22.790 --> 01:09:25.220
the continuation of the york and would

01:09:25.220 --> 01:09:28.330
occur every five years thereafter for

01:09:28.330 --> 01:09:29.941
the grant , it would be cost

01:09:29.941 --> 01:09:32.280
reimbursable um and the contract type

01:09:32.290 --> 01:09:34.123
is to be determined at this time

01:09:36.270 --> 01:09:38.492
eligibility um This has been previously

01:09:38.492 --> 01:09:40.603
mentioned um eligibility requirements

01:09:40.603 --> 01:09:44.250
are to um an hbCU that has a Carnegie

01:09:44.250 --> 01:09:46.472
foundation classification of our two or

01:09:46.472 --> 01:09:49.230
higher . In addition to those , um it

01:09:49.240 --> 01:09:51.140
has to go to a qualified and

01:09:51.140 --> 01:09:53.610
responsible university and those are

01:09:53.610 --> 01:09:57.310
based off of the definitions in 32 CFR

01:09:57.320 --> 01:10:00.610
22.4 15 for a grant and for

01:10:00.610 --> 01:10:04.050
9.1 for a contract . Um and just to

01:10:04.050 --> 01:10:06.050
give you a heads up at a minimum we

01:10:06.050 --> 01:10:08.670
will be checking fattest and SAM so if

01:10:08.670 --> 01:10:10.560
you are not current in SAM um I

01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:13.270
recommend that you um log into SAM dot

01:10:13.270 --> 01:10:16.160
gov and um register if you need to or

01:10:16.160 --> 01:10:18.860
get it updated and fastest if you know

01:10:18.860 --> 01:10:21.360
you have any adverse reporting on there .

01:10:21.360 --> 01:10:23.360
Just be prepared to discuss that in

01:10:23.360 --> 01:10:26.030
your proposal . The fund types

01:10:26.040 --> 01:10:28.610
predominantly with the Air Force calls

01:10:28.610 --> 01:10:31.090
6.2 funds . We use those for applied

01:10:31.090 --> 01:10:33.880
research And then we may also utilize

01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:37.080
6.1 funds which is for basic research .

01:10:38.860 --> 01:10:40.860
The selection process will be using

01:10:40.860 --> 01:10:42.638
will be merit based competitive

01:10:42.638 --> 01:10:45.300
procedures . Those are specifically

01:10:45.300 --> 01:10:48.880
defined in 32 CFR 22.3 15 .

01:10:49.260 --> 01:10:51.650
We will also be doing a cost analysis

01:10:51.650 --> 01:10:53.872
to determine that the price is fair and

01:10:53.872 --> 01:10:56.280
reasonable um to help prepare for that .

01:10:56.290 --> 01:10:59.660
If you have a rate agreement with D H H

01:10:59.660 --> 01:11:02.280
S or O N R , um if you're looking to

01:11:02.280 --> 01:11:04.113
close anything out with them , I

01:11:04.113 --> 01:11:06.169
recommend getting that taken care of

01:11:06.169 --> 01:11:08.860
right away . We'll be using that to

01:11:08.870 --> 01:11:11.980
verify your f and a rate . If your

01:11:11.980 --> 01:11:14.091
fringe rates are not included in your

01:11:14.091 --> 01:11:16.258
rate agreement , then just be prepared

01:11:16.258 --> 01:11:18.313
to explain how you um have developed

01:11:18.313 --> 01:11:20.202
those fringe rates in your budget

01:11:20.202 --> 01:11:22.330
justification along with any other

01:11:22.340 --> 01:11:23.950
costs you have will require

01:11:23.950 --> 01:11:27.610
justification as well . Next

01:11:27.610 --> 01:11:30.450
slide . So our principal evaluations

01:11:30.450 --> 01:11:34.080
like a selection criteria , um the two

01:11:34.080 --> 01:11:36.191
that are the most important to us are

01:11:36.191 --> 01:11:38.247
the technical merits of the proposed

01:11:38.247 --> 01:11:40.136
research and development . We are

01:11:40.136 --> 01:11:42.302
looking for new creative solutions and

01:11:42.302 --> 01:11:44.413
advances in knowledge , understanding

01:11:44.413 --> 01:11:47.060
technology and state of the art . And

01:11:47.060 --> 01:11:48.782
we're looking at the potential

01:11:48.782 --> 01:11:50.893
relationship of the proposed research

01:11:50.893 --> 01:11:52.949
and development to the Department of

01:11:52.949 --> 01:11:55.004
Defense missions . Um This should be

01:11:55.004 --> 01:11:57.004
demonstrated through the consortium

01:11:57.004 --> 01:11:59.171
plan that is clear , complete creative

01:11:59.171 --> 01:12:01.116
and achievable to accomplish those

01:12:01.116 --> 01:12:02.893
objectives and demonstrate that

01:12:02.893 --> 01:12:05.227
ecosystem that we've been talking about .

01:12:05.227 --> 01:12:08.230
Um these two principal factors are

01:12:08.230 --> 01:12:10.510
equal and important to us and they meet

01:12:10.510 --> 01:12:13.000
the minimum requirements that are

01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:16.470
listed in 32 CFR 22.3 15 C

01:12:17.450 --> 01:12:19.460
next slide Additionally we have two

01:12:19.460 --> 01:12:21.860
more evaluation and selection criteria

01:12:21.870 --> 01:12:23.814
and they are the likelihood of the

01:12:23.814 --> 01:12:25.648
proposed effort to develop a new

01:12:25.648 --> 01:12:27.648
research capability and broaden the

01:12:27.648 --> 01:12:29.870
research base in support of us national

01:12:29.870 --> 01:12:31.703
defense . And then we'll also be

01:12:31.703 --> 01:12:34.450
looking at the adequacy of current or

01:12:34.450 --> 01:12:36.450
planned facilities and equipment to

01:12:36.450 --> 01:12:39.280
accomplish that research . Um So these

01:12:39.280 --> 01:12:42.410
additional requirements they are when

01:12:42.410 --> 01:12:44.410
they're combined with the principal

01:12:44.410 --> 01:12:46.632
ones , they are not as important as the

01:12:46.632 --> 01:12:50.590
principal . Okay so I mentioned that

01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:52.878
we may be doing a grand and a contract .

01:12:52.878 --> 01:12:54.989
So these definitions will help you to

01:12:54.989 --> 01:12:57.450
kind of write your proposal in what you

01:12:57.450 --> 01:12:59.670
have in mind of what you would

01:12:59.670 --> 01:13:01.892
negotiate whether you want to grant our

01:13:01.892 --> 01:13:04.003
contract for it . Uh Grant is a legal

01:13:04.003 --> 01:13:06.170
instrument where the principal purpose

01:13:06.170 --> 01:13:08.380
is to transfer a thing of value to a

01:13:08.380 --> 01:13:10.770
recipient to the universities to carry

01:13:10.770 --> 01:13:12.937
out a public purpose . That is the key

01:13:12.937 --> 01:13:15.680
word in a grant is that the research

01:13:15.680 --> 01:13:17.569
that's being done serves a public

01:13:17.569 --> 01:13:20.650
purpose rather than um for the direct

01:13:20.650 --> 01:13:23.940
benefit of the federal government . And

01:13:23.940 --> 01:13:26.107
for it to be a grant . We don't expect

01:13:26.107 --> 01:13:28.107
there to be significant involvement

01:13:28.107 --> 01:13:30.218
from the federal government and there

01:13:30.218 --> 01:13:32.384
is no fee or profit that is allowed on

01:13:32.384 --> 01:13:34.750
a grant . The terms and conditions for

01:13:34.750 --> 01:13:37.890
a grant um are under the D . O . D .

01:13:37.890 --> 01:13:39.834
Research and development , general

01:13:39.834 --> 01:13:42.020
terms and conditions . The link to

01:13:42.020 --> 01:13:44.450
those is listed in the slide here as

01:13:44.450 --> 01:13:46.760
well as um titled to code of federal

01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:50.540
regulations . Part 200 next slide . The

01:13:50.540 --> 01:13:52.820
other option that we have is to do a

01:13:52.820 --> 01:13:55.990
contract which is a mutually binding

01:13:55.990 --> 01:13:57.879
legal relationship obligating the

01:13:57.879 --> 01:13:59.768
seller to furnish the supplies or

01:13:59.768 --> 01:14:02.101
services and the buyer to pay for those .

01:14:02.101 --> 01:14:04.110
Again , the significance of this is

01:14:04.110 --> 01:14:06.830
that you're doing this directly for the

01:14:06.830 --> 01:14:09.170
government that um the public that

01:14:09.170 --> 01:14:11.540
isn't just for a public purpose uh

01:14:11.550 --> 01:14:13.717
something a vehicle that we're looking

01:14:13.717 --> 01:14:16.020
at um for a contract could be an

01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:18.529
Indefinite delivery and different

01:14:18.529 --> 01:14:20.473
quantity contract which is a legal

01:14:20.473 --> 01:14:23.220
instrument that allows us to order

01:14:23.230 --> 01:14:25.460
research off of it . Um more

01:14:25.460 --> 01:14:27.682
information on that can be found in far

01:14:27.682 --> 01:14:29.900
16.5 . Um along with the terms and

01:14:29.900 --> 01:14:31.900
conditions are found in the federal

01:14:31.900 --> 01:14:35.290
acquisition regulation so that

01:14:35.290 --> 01:14:37.840
concludes the business piece of this .

01:14:37.850 --> 01:14:41.040
Um uh You can go ahead and go to the

01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:44.640
next slide . Um We are , there was our

01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:46.640
point of contact information if you

01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:48.696
need to get a hold of me or tim with

01:14:48.696 --> 01:14:50.807
questions but we are going to open it

01:14:50.807 --> 01:14:52.862
up properly after a short break here

01:14:52.862 --> 01:14:55.029
with questions and answers just to lay

01:14:55.029 --> 01:14:57.084
the ground rules for these . Is that

01:14:57.084 --> 01:14:59.140
all Q . And A's . Will be documented

01:14:59.140 --> 01:15:00.807
for the record and for future

01:15:00.807 --> 01:15:02.807
distribution . Um All of our verbal

01:15:02.807 --> 01:15:04.862
answers what we have answered so far

01:15:04.862 --> 01:15:06.890
and any that may come . Um We will

01:15:06.890 --> 01:15:09.001
provide you with the best answer that

01:15:09.001 --> 01:15:11.223
we can but know that we may follow that

01:15:11.223 --> 01:15:13.960
up with any corrections or revisions

01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:15.930
that made to that . Uh We may have

01:15:15.930 --> 01:15:17.819
misspoke or we need to add to for

01:15:17.819 --> 01:15:20.097
clarifications and then the official Q .

01:15:20.097 --> 01:15:22.041
And A . S . Will be distributed to

01:15:22.041 --> 01:15:24.720
registered parties um That registered

01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:27.950
on that the event right ? Um And we'll

01:15:27.950 --> 01:15:31.480
send those out to you so tim I'll turn

01:15:31.480 --> 01:15:34.110
it over to you to talk about break or

01:15:34.110 --> 01:15:36.332
what you want to lead into next on this

01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:39.050
two . Hey now a miss potter thank you

01:15:39.050 --> 01:15:42.950
so much . The it's like mr

01:15:42.950 --> 01:15:45.230
ripple is bringing the slides down . Uh

01:15:45.240 --> 01:15:48.640
So we are at 12 15 . Oh that's

01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:50.820
perfect timing is really really done

01:15:50.820 --> 01:15:53.060
well . Um And we do have a break

01:15:53.060 --> 01:15:55.227
schedule for you for for for you right

01:15:55.227 --> 01:15:57.450
now . Um Let us

01:15:59.340 --> 01:16:03.120
let us uh let us take that that

01:16:03.120 --> 01:16:05.180
that that break we've got several

01:16:05.180 --> 01:16:07.520
questions that have already come in and

01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.576
if there are additional questions we

01:16:09.576 --> 01:16:11.798
want to be able to answer those . Uh So

01:16:11.798 --> 01:16:14.530
let's do just a quick um um Echo break

01:16:14.540 --> 01:16:17.710
and uh 1215 started . We'll come back

01:16:17.710 --> 01:16:21.030
here no later than 1225 and we'll

01:16:21.030 --> 01:16:23.110
continue with questions and uh make

01:16:23.110 --> 01:16:25.221
sure that we answer everything we can

01:16:25.221 --> 01:16:28.290
for you today over . Sounds good thank

01:16:28.290 --> 01:16:29.830
you . All right . Huh .

01:22:45.400 --> 01:22:48.820
They doctor martin or Mateen . No the

01:22:48.820 --> 01:22:51.330
media hasn't started back yet . Excuse

01:22:51.330 --> 01:22:53.497
me we still have about three minutes .

01:23:11.100 --> 01:23:12.020
Thank you .

01:24:17.090 --> 01:24:20.950
Excuse me miss potter . It looks like

01:24:20.950 --> 01:24:23.117
we got like a minute left if you could

01:24:23.117 --> 01:24:26.250
please . And preparation of us coming

01:24:26.250 --> 01:24:30.180
off of off the break . Uh take a look

01:24:30.180 --> 01:24:33.070
at the question at 12:04 from Dr .

01:24:33.070 --> 01:24:36.710
McCrary . We'll start there

01:24:37.290 --> 01:24:40.090
will do and answer questions going

01:24:40.090 --> 01:24:40.920
forward .

01:25:01.390 --> 01:25:02.390
Mhm .

01:25:13.090 --> 01:25:16.990
Alright , I have 1225 and so you know ,

01:25:16.990 --> 01:25:19.550
I'm a stickler for time so please go

01:25:19.550 --> 01:25:23.260
ahead . Sure . Okay , so there's one

01:25:23.260 --> 01:25:25.500
question I expect as all you works

01:25:25.500 --> 01:25:27.722
business development strategy will have

01:25:27.722 --> 01:25:29.556
to be included in the proposal ,

01:25:29.556 --> 01:25:32.990
correct ? Um Yeah , I do believe that

01:25:32.990 --> 01:25:34.712
we can we cover that under the

01:25:34.712 --> 01:25:37.610
consortium . Piece of it . Um Yeah .

01:25:38.190 --> 01:25:40.710
Operation and consortium that will need

01:25:40.710 --> 01:25:44.270
to be included in there . The second

01:25:44.270 --> 01:25:46.270
question I went along with that . I

01:25:46.270 --> 01:25:48.326
assume the lead will have Sika three

01:25:48.326 --> 01:25:50.740
exception . So um as I mentioned before

01:25:50.740 --> 01:25:53.870
this will be merit based competition .

01:25:53.880 --> 01:25:56.910
So um we are using that

01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:00.100
22 CFR um I think it's 2

01:26:00.100 --> 01:26:03.830
35 reference um that stating how it's

01:26:03.830 --> 01:26:05.997
competitive . So there is no exception

01:26:05.997 --> 01:26:08.108
to competition to this . This is this

01:26:08.108 --> 01:26:12.030
is considered competitive . Thank you

01:26:12.040 --> 01:26:14.140
Miss potter and I apologize to I was

01:26:14.140 --> 01:26:16.196
going to take that first piece about

01:26:16.196 --> 01:26:18.418
the business development strategy . You

01:26:18.418 --> 01:26:21.230
got it ? No , I am sorry . No , you did

01:26:21.230 --> 01:26:23.452
a really good job . That's perfect . Uh

01:26:23.452 --> 01:26:25.950
So Doctor May , he was asking about the

01:26:25.950 --> 01:26:28.310
slides . Yes sir , these will be posted

01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:30.791
No less than 48 hours . We just wanna

01:26:30.791 --> 01:26:34.190
ensure Uh that the discussion today did

01:26:34.190 --> 01:26:35.912
not lead to any changes in the

01:26:35.912 --> 01:26:38.023
information . Uh so we'll review that

01:26:38.023 --> 01:26:40.357
and we'll have those posted in 48 hours .

01:26:40.357 --> 01:26:43.500
The slide deck that Dr . Vasquez had up

01:26:44.380 --> 01:26:46.602
during the meeting is the website where

01:26:46.602 --> 01:26:48.824
that information is available and we'll

01:26:48.824 --> 01:26:50.991
and we'll drop it into the chat box to

01:26:50.991 --> 01:26:53.102
uh mr ripple . If you would just take

01:26:53.102 --> 01:26:55.390
that From slight 29 I think it is and

01:26:55.390 --> 01:26:57.112
just drop it in the chat box .

01:26:57.112 --> 01:27:00.430
Everybody can access the the york

01:27:00.550 --> 01:27:02.717
lick where everything will be posted .

01:27:03.080 --> 01:27:06.310
Okay ? So I've got one from dr McCrary .

01:27:07.480 --> 01:27:11.410
Uh This is an FM . I don't know if Miss

01:27:11.410 --> 01:27:14.380
Rebecca buck came in today but it says

01:27:14.380 --> 01:27:17.020
in our rates can we include cost of

01:27:17.020 --> 01:27:19.470
money ? Um I am fearful of saying a

01:27:19.470 --> 01:27:23.380
word on that , so I'm gonna keep my

01:27:23.380 --> 01:27:26.220
lips closed if miss buck if you are

01:27:26.220 --> 01:27:28.980
available uh to answer that , please

01:27:28.980 --> 01:27:31.320
feel free . Um If not we'll capture

01:27:31.320 --> 01:27:34.360
this one . Actually I have that one tim .

01:27:34.740 --> 01:27:36.962
Um So I'm assuming you're asking if you

01:27:36.962 --> 01:27:39.184
can if that can be included in your F .

01:27:39.184 --> 01:27:42.160
And a rate um explicitly putting that

01:27:42.170 --> 01:27:45.500
in your proposal is not allowed . Um If

01:27:45.500 --> 01:27:47.833
you're if D . H . H . S . R . O . And R .

01:27:47.833 --> 01:27:50.100
Have approved your rate agreement to

01:27:50.100 --> 01:27:52.211
include it in . There is some part of

01:27:52.211 --> 01:27:54.378
it then it would be allowable but as a

01:27:54.378 --> 01:27:56.720
separate cost , it would not be for the

01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:57.700
grant

01:28:00.990 --> 01:28:04.360
and that was from , I want to make sure

01:28:04.360 --> 01:28:06.527
we answer the question . If there's no

01:28:06.527 --> 01:28:08.527
follow on if there's a follow on to

01:28:08.527 --> 01:28:10.638
that just come off of you and then uh

01:28:10.638 --> 01:28:14.180
we'll address it . Uh So dr McCrary .

01:28:14.180 --> 01:28:15.791
Thank you . You said are you

01:28:15.791 --> 01:28:17.624
considering a third vehicle as a

01:28:17.624 --> 01:28:19.791
cooperative cooperative agreement ? We

01:28:19.791 --> 01:28:22.890
specifically , excuse me . We

01:28:22.890 --> 01:28:24.946
specifically had conversations about

01:28:24.946 --> 01:28:27.480
greatness . I won't get into the

01:28:27.480 --> 01:28:30.310
technical jargon from my contracting

01:28:30.310 --> 01:28:32.550
speak that's here right now . But she

01:28:32.550 --> 01:28:34.910
convinced me why for this initial

01:28:34.910 --> 01:28:37.620
portion as we're looking at the broad

01:28:37.620 --> 01:28:39.620
agency announcement and the initial

01:28:39.620 --> 01:28:41.842
vehicle that gets out . It does not and

01:28:41.842 --> 01:28:44.880
would not apply . Um and I don't know

01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:47.850
if there's anything else lexi because ,

01:28:47.860 --> 01:28:50.082
you know , we need to add as it relates

01:28:50.082 --> 01:28:52.193
to the cooperative agreement . Yeah ,

01:28:52.193 --> 01:28:54.304
that's fine . I think the distinction

01:28:54.304 --> 01:28:56.416
between the two is that they're gonna

01:28:56.416 --> 01:28:56.350
be substantial involvement by the

01:28:56.350 --> 01:28:58.670
government . Um and the way we saw it

01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:01.660
is that um well , there will definitely

01:29:01.660 --> 01:29:03.827
be communication . There's going to be

01:29:03.827 --> 01:29:06.000
meetings that , you know , the

01:29:06.010 --> 01:29:08.177
university is going to need to provide

01:29:08.177 --> 01:29:10.288
information to us on , we're gonna be

01:29:10.288 --> 01:29:12.343
evaluating performance , things like

01:29:12.343 --> 01:29:14.454
that , but the university is going to

01:29:14.454 --> 01:29:16.510
be managing the research effort . Um

01:29:16.510 --> 01:29:18.121
They're not gonna have , the

01:29:18.121 --> 01:29:20.232
government's not gonna be gatekeepers

01:29:20.232 --> 01:29:22.399
for it . Um And so based off of that ,

01:29:22.399 --> 01:29:25.130
um we did not see that ventured into

01:29:25.130 --> 01:29:28.040
the world of cooperative agreement . Um

01:29:28.050 --> 01:29:30.940
Again , contract type including grant

01:29:30.940 --> 01:29:33.420
type is always negotiable . Um If you

01:29:33.420 --> 01:29:35.642
have a case to why you believe it could

01:29:35.642 --> 01:29:37.531
be better suited as a cooperative

01:29:37.531 --> 01:29:40.300
agreement , we are open to hear that um

01:29:40.310 --> 01:29:42.421
because it is something we can always

01:29:42.421 --> 01:29:45.150
negotiate . Awesome , thank you so much .

01:29:45.150 --> 01:29:48.800
Miss potter dr basket and mr

01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.180
ripple uh They have added the contact

01:29:52.180 --> 01:29:54.402
information for you in the chat so that

01:29:54.402 --> 01:29:56.458
you can utilize that copy , paste it

01:29:56.458 --> 01:29:58.780
and go there immediately if necessary .

01:29:59.170 --> 01:30:00.948
But you should should have that

01:30:00.948 --> 01:30:04.160
information at your disposal now . Uh

01:30:04.170 --> 01:30:06.392
So that concludes the questions that we

01:30:06.392 --> 01:30:08.559
have in the chat window . Thank you so

01:30:08.559 --> 01:30:11.560
much . We'll open the floor up to see

01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:13.671
if there's any follow ons the initial

01:30:13.671 --> 01:30:16.580
questions or additional questions over

01:30:17.060 --> 01:30:19.227
tim and lexi I sort of have a question

01:30:19.227 --> 01:30:21.440
that lives between your two

01:30:21.450 --> 01:30:23.940
presentations . It would seem that the

01:30:23.950 --> 01:30:27.470
operational , no the shared governance

01:30:27.470 --> 01:30:30.780
of the consortium is directly linked to

01:30:30.790 --> 01:30:32.957
the way the mechanism , whether it's a

01:30:32.957 --> 01:30:36.110
contract or a grant would operate . I

01:30:36.110 --> 01:30:38.277
don't I don't see how you can separate

01:30:38.277 --> 01:30:41.140
those two . So I you personally threw

01:30:41.140 --> 01:30:43.600
me a little curveball by saying , okay ,

01:30:43.610 --> 01:30:45.666
hey we're gonna put in this proposal

01:30:45.666 --> 01:30:47.943
and then we'll negotiate the mechanism .

01:30:47.943 --> 01:30:50.054
I think many of us were assuming this

01:30:50.054 --> 01:30:52.110
was gonna be an I . D . I . Q . With

01:30:52.110 --> 01:30:54.332
task orders because that's how a lot of

01:30:54.332 --> 01:30:57.060
the Urs if not all of them operate . So

01:30:57.060 --> 01:30:59.150
when you put when you say grants now

01:30:59.150 --> 01:31:02.100
it's more like a lead with subs which

01:31:02.100 --> 01:31:04.100
is a different structure than a

01:31:04.100 --> 01:31:06.330
consortium responding to government

01:31:06.330 --> 01:31:09.070
issue task orders . So I don't know if

01:31:09.070 --> 01:31:10.959
you can discuss this a little bit

01:31:10.959 --> 01:31:13.070
because I'm I'm sitting here a little

01:31:13.070 --> 01:31:16.780
befuddled about how to move how

01:31:16.780 --> 01:31:19.550
to realign these two things . When my

01:31:19.550 --> 01:31:22.050
assumption was formed the consortium in

01:31:22.050 --> 01:31:24.161
a way like cirque because that's been

01:31:24.161 --> 01:31:26.360
used as a mechanism which operates off

01:31:26.360 --> 01:31:28.582
of I . D . I . Q . S . You know there's

01:31:28.582 --> 01:31:30.749
a baby I mean task border . So there's

01:31:30.749 --> 01:31:32.860
a I was gonna ask this question about

01:31:32.860 --> 01:31:35.082
will there be a management task order ?

01:31:35.082 --> 01:31:37.193
Will there be a workforce development

01:31:37.193 --> 01:31:39.416
task order ? Will there be it ? But now

01:31:39.416 --> 01:31:41.471
when you said contract I'm like okay

01:31:41.471 --> 01:31:43.693
wait a minute . We gotta build a budget

01:31:43.693 --> 01:31:43.580
and we got to figure those things out

01:31:43.580 --> 01:31:45.580
and tell you how much they're gonna

01:31:45.580 --> 01:31:47.747
cost . Very different approaches where

01:31:47.747 --> 01:31:49.691
we're just giving you rates versus

01:31:49.691 --> 01:31:52.160
we're giving you specific lead budget

01:31:52.160 --> 01:31:54.327
and subcontract budget . So if you can

01:31:54.327 --> 01:31:56.160
discuss that a little bit I much

01:31:56.160 --> 01:31:58.810
appreciate it . Sure . Um I'll cover

01:31:58.810 --> 01:32:00.921
that to him unless somebody wanna add

01:32:00.921 --> 01:32:02.980
first . We have we have definitely

01:32:02.980 --> 01:32:06.700
discussed this thoroughly . Um

01:32:06.710 --> 01:32:08.970
Because it really does come down to the

01:32:08.970 --> 01:32:11.540
purpose what is it that we are we're

01:32:11.540 --> 01:32:14.080
doing and if it serves a public purpose .

01:32:14.090 --> 01:32:16.312
The research itself then it should be a

01:32:16.312 --> 01:32:18.620
grant . If you're doing something that

01:32:18.620 --> 01:32:21.370
is specifically just for D . O . D . Or

01:32:21.370 --> 01:32:24.110
the Air Force um that doesn't have that

01:32:24.110 --> 01:32:26.332
public need . I understand there can be

01:32:26.332 --> 01:32:28.554
overlap on there too , but it is for us

01:32:28.554 --> 01:32:30.666
then it needs to be a contract and um

01:32:30.666 --> 01:32:32.370
based on what we believe our

01:32:32.370 --> 01:32:35.020
requirement to be is that the majority

01:32:35.020 --> 01:32:37.960
of this serves a public purpose ? Um I

01:32:37.960 --> 01:32:40.127
had mentioned that classified piece of

01:32:40.127 --> 01:32:42.349
it and there could be some other pieces

01:32:42.349 --> 01:32:44.571
that maybe specific that the government

01:32:44.571 --> 01:32:46.738
is like , hey we need you to go and do

01:32:46.738 --> 01:32:48.738
this . You know , research this and

01:32:48.738 --> 01:32:50.516
that's when we use the contract

01:32:50.516 --> 01:32:52.627
mechanism . Otherwise the work itself

01:32:52.627 --> 01:32:54.849
is managed at your level , you're gonna

01:32:54.849 --> 01:32:56.849
propose what it is that you want to

01:32:56.849 --> 01:32:58.682
utilize this . You are to go and

01:32:58.682 --> 01:33:00.516
research um and then manage your

01:33:00.516 --> 01:33:04.400
consortium accordingly . Um And I I do

01:33:04.400 --> 01:33:06.567
understand that's a different approach

01:33:06.567 --> 01:33:08.789
than what the other york's have done it

01:33:08.789 --> 01:33:11.020
is because of the requirement and the

01:33:11.020 --> 01:33:12.909
need itself that the issue arc is

01:33:12.909 --> 01:33:15.620
lending itself . I'm not sure if that

01:33:15.620 --> 01:33:17.731
helps you or if there's anything more

01:33:17.731 --> 01:33:20.390
specific . No , I have a follow up

01:33:20.390 --> 01:33:22.390
question . So one of the one of the

01:33:22.390 --> 01:33:24.446
benefits of having a U . R . With an

01:33:24.446 --> 01:33:26.630
open I . D . I . Q . Is that the other

01:33:26.640 --> 01:33:28.820
the other service branches can kind of

01:33:28.820 --> 01:33:31.060
come in and piggyback off on it and

01:33:31.060 --> 01:33:33.171
bring in additional funding if it's a

01:33:33.171 --> 01:33:35.060
contract , I don't think that's a

01:33:35.060 --> 01:33:37.610
viable option . So you're sort of , you ,

01:33:37.620 --> 01:33:39.676
I mean sorry if it's a grant , so if

01:33:39.676 --> 01:33:42.000
it's a grant , you know , it's it's a

01:33:42.010 --> 01:33:44.177
grant with the subs with a budget with

01:33:44.177 --> 01:33:46.177
a plan like you described and I get

01:33:46.177 --> 01:33:48.970
that , but then you don't , you know ,

01:33:48.970 --> 01:33:50.748
the benefit , I mean I'm you've

01:33:50.748 --> 01:33:53.290
described a very broad thing as a you

01:33:53.290 --> 01:33:56.130
are , there is workforce development ,

01:33:56.130 --> 01:33:58.241
there is small business development ,

01:33:58.241 --> 01:34:00.520
there is research , a research agenda

01:34:00.530 --> 01:34:03.550
with a consortium that we're asking us

01:34:03.550 --> 01:34:06.660
to bring together and and , you know ,

01:34:06.660 --> 01:34:08.770
part of the , so that to me that you

01:34:08.770 --> 01:34:10.881
are in the Air Force was a carrot , a

01:34:10.881 --> 01:34:13.048
little bit of a carrot , but it's 12 ,

01:34:13.048 --> 01:34:14.881
it's not a lot of money when you

01:34:14.881 --> 01:34:17.048
divided by a consortium of five people

01:34:17.048 --> 01:34:19.159
you're now talking about , you know ,

01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:21.326
maybe maybe there's two million at the

01:34:21.326 --> 01:34:21.000
at the lead and then you're dividing

01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:24.290
the other uh the other monies , maybe

01:34:24.290 --> 01:34:26.560
it's you know , a million and a half

01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:28.610
apiece per year . This is now , it

01:34:28.620 --> 01:34:31.820
became A very , very small contract

01:34:31.820 --> 01:34:34.100
that the assumption was that other

01:34:34.110 --> 01:34:36.530
other agencies would piggyback off on

01:34:36.530 --> 01:34:38.600
this and 12 million might grow into

01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:41.010
something bigger . So , I actually am a

01:34:41.010 --> 01:34:43.232
little discouraged by this conversation

01:34:43.232 --> 01:34:45.460
because it really seems like you thin

01:34:45.460 --> 01:34:48.320
slice the pie and asked for a lot and I

01:34:48.320 --> 01:34:50.431
agree with tim we want this to be the

01:34:50.431 --> 01:34:53.250
most successful , um you are out there ,

01:34:53.260 --> 01:34:56.190
the best one , but I'm not clear , I

01:34:56.190 --> 01:34:58.246
think this , I think we need we need

01:34:58.246 --> 01:35:00.412
more discussion about this contracting

01:35:00.412 --> 01:35:03.890
mechanism and that that drives the

01:35:03.890 --> 01:35:06.840
structure of this . Uh And and we need

01:35:06.850 --> 01:35:09.120
a conversation about that because I

01:35:09.130 --> 01:35:11.670
find what what I've heard today in that

01:35:11.670 --> 01:35:15.450
space of very limiting restriction . So

01:35:15.460 --> 01:35:17.627
so actually let me let me address that

01:35:17.627 --> 01:35:21.200
because um both mechanisms have to

01:35:21.200 --> 01:35:23.690
have a ceiling on them , the grant and

01:35:23.700 --> 01:35:26.090
and the the I . D . I . Q . Contract .

01:35:26.100 --> 01:35:29.540
Um So the estimated for either one of

01:35:29.540 --> 01:35:32.150
those would be that $12 million other

01:35:32.160 --> 01:35:34.170
other agencies could come in and

01:35:34.170 --> 01:35:36.420
provide funding through this . It is a

01:35:36.420 --> 01:35:39.380
lot easier to grow a grant than it is

01:35:39.380 --> 01:35:42.250
to grow an I . D . I . Q . Um There is

01:35:42.260 --> 01:35:44.850
a lot more flexibility built into the

01:35:44.850 --> 01:35:47.150
grant because the idea is is that

01:35:47.160 --> 01:35:48.938
you're out there exploring this

01:35:48.938 --> 01:35:50.970
research and we may stumble across

01:35:50.970 --> 01:35:53.340
things that we may want to explore on

01:35:53.340 --> 01:35:55.450
it . The contract , we there's a lot

01:35:55.450 --> 01:35:57.339
more justification that has to be

01:35:57.339 --> 01:35:59.340
played into it in order to grow the

01:35:59.340 --> 01:36:01.870
contract . Um The grant does as well ,

01:36:01.870 --> 01:36:04.650
but it's not a stringent . Yeah

01:36:05.630 --> 01:36:09.370
and dr mu this is um excuse me , it's a

01:36:09.370 --> 01:36:12.550
really really good point . And and

01:36:12.550 --> 01:36:14.970
conversation you're bringing up the

01:36:14.980 --> 01:36:17.202
thing that I'll add to the conversation

01:36:17.202 --> 01:36:19.202
is this is exactly why we're having

01:36:19.202 --> 01:36:21.550
this discussion is we want to get after

01:36:21.550 --> 01:36:23.772
those concerns and those issues so that

01:36:23.772 --> 01:36:26.480
when we you know slap the table and get

01:36:26.480 --> 01:36:30.260
this thing into 22 Zeros and ones that

01:36:30.260 --> 01:36:32.149
it is meeting the intent , we are

01:36:32.149 --> 01:36:34.316
thinking about some of the longer term

01:36:34.316 --> 01:36:36.204
events because one of the biggest

01:36:36.204 --> 01:36:38.427
things that we had was the growth as we

01:36:38.427 --> 01:36:40.649
talked about earlier and whether that's

01:36:40.649 --> 01:36:43.140
the grant or the I . D . I . Q . That

01:36:43.140 --> 01:36:45.196
creates that opportunity for us . We

01:36:45.196 --> 01:36:46.973
want to ensure that we have the

01:36:46.973 --> 01:36:48.918
capacity and capability to do that

01:36:48.918 --> 01:36:51.210
because I as a program leads are gonna

01:36:51.210 --> 01:36:53.432
be the guy that's out there beating the

01:36:53.432 --> 01:36:55.432
bushes on your behalf based on what

01:36:55.432 --> 01:36:57.543
those capabilities are and what we're

01:36:57.543 --> 01:36:59.654
trying to do and what's coming out of

01:36:59.654 --> 01:36:59.070
India and the guidance that we've

01:36:59.070 --> 01:37:01.181
gotten and received from our advisors

01:37:01.181 --> 01:37:03.403
uh in order to ensure that we're taking

01:37:03.403 --> 01:37:05.348
all this into account whether that

01:37:05.348 --> 01:37:08.430
vehicle is that grant that vehicle is

01:37:08.430 --> 01:37:10.486
that I . D . I . Q . This is exactly

01:37:10.486 --> 01:37:12.486
the input that we need to make sure

01:37:12.486 --> 01:37:14.708
that we're making the right decision as

01:37:14.708 --> 01:37:14.140
we move forward . I hope that helps

01:37:14.150 --> 01:37:17.930
over . I

01:37:17.930 --> 01:37:20.097
think it would be helpful maybe if you

01:37:20.097 --> 01:37:22.319
just decide what the mechanism is gonna

01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:24.041
be and let us respond to . I I

01:37:24.041 --> 01:37:26.208
appreciate the flexibility but I think

01:37:26.208 --> 01:37:28.263
there are so many degrees of freedom

01:37:28.263 --> 01:37:30.910
here . It sounds like when I heard miss

01:37:30.910 --> 01:37:33.077
potter talk that you would prefer this

01:37:33.077 --> 01:37:35.132
to be a grant . So I would encourage

01:37:35.132 --> 01:37:37.620
the RFP to state that so we can plan

01:37:37.620 --> 01:37:40.150
now and be responsive . I think the

01:37:40.430 --> 01:37:42.790
that's what I was asking about I think

01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:44.800
with with cirque and the way it was

01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:46.689
stood up , there was so much left

01:37:46.689 --> 01:37:49.200
undecided in the RFP that it took you

01:37:49.200 --> 01:37:51.367
know they were slow out of the gate to

01:37:51.367 --> 01:37:53.367
get started and I don't know we got

01:37:53.367 --> 01:37:55.478
five years to get out of the gate and

01:37:55.478 --> 01:37:58.070
and be successful . Right ? No way

01:37:58.070 --> 01:38:01.220
points well taken and you best believe

01:38:01.230 --> 01:38:03.286
that as we conclude here we've got a

01:38:03.286 --> 01:38:05.452
hot wash this afternoon , this will be

01:38:05.452 --> 01:38:07.619
excuse me , one of the major points of

01:38:07.619 --> 01:38:09.841
conversation because I do I want you to

01:38:09.841 --> 01:38:11.674
have everything that you need dr

01:38:11.674 --> 01:38:13.786
Williams . Yes sir . I would just say

01:38:13.786 --> 01:38:17.010
follow on dr moose conversation when

01:38:17.010 --> 01:38:20.120
you do have your hot wash with both

01:38:20.130 --> 01:38:22.460
mechanisms . The question is

01:38:22.460 --> 01:38:24.571
particularly on an I . D . I . Q . It

01:38:24.571 --> 01:38:26.627
is much easier to nip her money from

01:38:26.627 --> 01:38:28.810
across many agencies . The other thing

01:38:28.810 --> 01:38:30.977
and I know Miss Potter knows this that

01:38:30.977 --> 01:38:33.190
even with a five your contract on any

01:38:33.190 --> 01:38:35.720
idea I . Q . That can be moderate very

01:38:35.720 --> 01:38:37.553
easily if you reach the contract

01:38:37.553 --> 01:38:39.553
ceiling , you know and you show the

01:38:39.553 --> 01:38:42.690
demand . Um I think just one thing to

01:38:42.690 --> 01:38:44.968
think about , like I said I'm with you ,

01:38:44.968 --> 01:38:46.912
we we all want this to be the most

01:38:46.912 --> 01:38:49.320
successful you are . Um And so the

01:38:49.320 --> 01:38:51.650
ability to grow and shape that if it's

01:38:51.650 --> 01:38:53.817
gonna be limited , I know starting out

01:38:53.817 --> 01:38:55.983
with 12 million but if we can have X .

01:38:55.983 --> 01:38:59.430
amount of maximum flexibility as needed .

01:38:59.820 --> 01:39:02.180
Both contract mechanisms allow you that

01:39:02.180 --> 01:39:04.458
I would just say look at the I . D . I .

01:39:04.458 --> 01:39:06.710
Q . Because in some cases it is much

01:39:06.710 --> 01:39:08.940
harder between other agencies to nipper

01:39:09.320 --> 01:39:13.010
across on grants . Okay . And then

01:39:13.010 --> 01:39:16.750
also to allow the opportunity for

01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:19.300
if some of the leads or their partners

01:39:19.310 --> 01:39:22.620
already have contract mechanisms with D .

01:39:22.620 --> 01:39:25.100
O . D . That that be also be under

01:39:25.100 --> 01:39:27.156
consideration in order to be able to

01:39:27.156 --> 01:39:30.230
send money . Mhm . Because I think also

01:39:30.230 --> 01:39:32.452
the other thing you need to think about

01:39:32.452 --> 01:39:35.310
is I assume at some point the Air Force

01:39:35.310 --> 01:39:37.410
like like all other you arts we're

01:39:37.410 --> 01:39:39.299
gonna want this you are to have a

01:39:39.299 --> 01:39:41.299
business development function which

01:39:41.299 --> 01:39:44.350
means people are going out to get

01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:48.660
grants uh aligned along the mission of

01:39:48.660 --> 01:39:50.882
the U . R . Which right now is tactical

01:39:50.882 --> 01:39:53.360
autonomy and that unless you tell me

01:39:53.360 --> 01:39:55.480
otherwise We're not to sit back

01:39:55.480 --> 01:39:57.647
passively and think that the air force

01:39:57.647 --> 01:39:59.869
is going to do our business development

01:39:59.869 --> 01:40:01.980
for us in terms of steering money our

01:40:01.980 --> 01:40:04.147
way you're starting with this 12 man .

01:40:04.147 --> 01:40:06.258
But I assume you're hoping like other

01:40:06.258 --> 01:40:08.258
you arcs as part of the structure ,

01:40:08.258 --> 01:40:10.313
there will be a business development

01:40:10.313 --> 01:40:13.140
goal and strategy to build on the base

01:40:13.140 --> 01:40:15.307
that you're you're contributing to hey

01:40:15.307 --> 01:40:17.307
dr McCrary . But yeah you're you're

01:40:17.307 --> 01:40:20.400
hitting excuse me on that on the head .

01:40:20.410 --> 01:40:22.410
And as we have this discussion this

01:40:22.410 --> 01:40:24.299
afternoon we will specifically be

01:40:24.299 --> 01:40:26.577
talking about the grants and I . D . I .

01:40:26.577 --> 01:40:28.632
Q . Process . I mean we've got in my

01:40:28.632 --> 01:40:30.577
home parent organization a billion

01:40:30.577 --> 01:40:32.688
dollar idea I . Q . As we speak and I

01:40:32.688 --> 01:40:32.380
know some of the pros and cons that are

01:40:32.380 --> 01:40:35.050
associated with it but believe you me

01:40:35.050 --> 01:40:37.106
that as we continue the requirements

01:40:37.106 --> 01:40:38.939
generation these discussions are

01:40:38.939 --> 01:40:41.520
informative that we will slap the table

01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:43.576
as we move forward to make sure that

01:40:43.576 --> 01:40:45.520
we're uh we are advocating for the

01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:47.576
correct vehicle for today and really

01:40:47.576 --> 01:40:49.576
for the long term growth that we're

01:40:49.576 --> 01:40:51.798
looking at . Lexie's Doctor Miss potter

01:40:51.798 --> 01:40:53.930
is that fair ? Well thank you for the

01:40:53.930 --> 01:40:56.230
upgrade . I like the doctor . Yes

01:40:56.240 --> 01:40:58.910
absolutely I appreciate the dialogue

01:40:58.910 --> 01:41:01.077
and this is why we have it because you

01:41:01.077 --> 01:41:03.188
know you guys see things and you know

01:41:03.188 --> 01:41:05.243
it helps us to realize it too . So I

01:41:05.243 --> 01:41:07.230
appreciate that awesome .

01:41:08.910 --> 01:41:11.930
Okay we had completed the questions

01:41:11.930 --> 01:41:13.710
that were in the chat . Great

01:41:13.710 --> 01:41:16.043
conversation , Starter Dr . Muth and Dr .

01:41:16.043 --> 01:41:17.988
McCrary . Any additional questions

01:41:17.988 --> 01:41:20.960
concerns that you have um were

01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:22.820
available between now and we're

01:41:22.820 --> 01:41:24.876
scheduled to conclude not until 1330

01:41:24.876 --> 01:41:27.190
but again I trained to standard not to

01:41:27.190 --> 01:41:29.301
time uh if you got questions we wanna

01:41:29.301 --> 01:41:33.210
make sure we answer those over . Just a

01:41:33.220 --> 01:41:35.280
kind of reaction to this discussion

01:41:35.280 --> 01:41:37.391
you're having . Maybe it's both , you

01:41:37.391 --> 01:41:39.502
know maybe there's an I . D . I . Q .

01:41:39.502 --> 01:41:41.724
Component and a grant component and you

01:41:41.724 --> 01:41:44.370
think about that strategically in terms

01:41:44.370 --> 01:41:47.180
so my question is really about relating

01:41:47.180 --> 01:41:49.750
the money to the consortium and I think

01:41:49.750 --> 01:41:53.500
there is concern amongst us as HBc us

01:41:53.500 --> 01:41:55.611
as we we've had a lot of , you know ,

01:41:55.611 --> 01:41:57.778
we've had discussions that the our two

01:41:57.778 --> 01:41:59.950
universities about what the consortium

01:41:59.950 --> 01:42:02.228
looks like , who's partnering with who ,

01:42:02.230 --> 01:42:05.600
who's leading and you know , I think

01:42:05.600 --> 01:42:07.970
there is concern that ties back to the

01:42:07.970 --> 01:42:10.920
money and the prestige associated with

01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:13.222
being the lead and you've made it clear

01:42:13.222 --> 01:42:15.444
there needs to be a lead . And then the

01:42:15.444 --> 01:42:17.640
question question is about fairness ,

01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:19.584
is an equitable bility amongst the

01:42:19.584 --> 01:42:22.900
consortium partners . And that that's

01:42:22.900 --> 01:42:24.622
where , so , you know , I'm no

01:42:24.622 --> 01:42:26.690
contracting expert for sure . I know

01:42:26.690 --> 01:42:29.680
enough to be dangerous . And so I think

01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:32.230
though , as we have to tie the

01:42:32.300 --> 01:42:34.620
operation of the consortium , the way

01:42:34.620 --> 01:42:37.070
the lead relates to partners , the way

01:42:37.070 --> 01:42:39.380
the funding flows to the lead versus

01:42:39.380 --> 01:42:41.600
the partners . And being able to think

01:42:41.600 --> 01:42:44.210
through that , look forward to hearing

01:42:44.210 --> 01:42:46.980
your thoughts about that money side .

01:42:46.990 --> 01:42:49.450
And because we will have to be able to

01:42:49.460 --> 01:42:51.830
we we are trying to think through that

01:42:51.830 --> 01:42:54.480
right now in our conversations about

01:42:54.480 --> 01:42:57.370
how the consortium will operate around

01:42:57.370 --> 01:42:59.610
the funding mechanism , especially the

01:42:59.610 --> 01:43:02.120
core partners . I mean , you can have a

01:43:02.130 --> 01:43:04.710
broader consortium with partners that

01:43:04.710 --> 01:43:06.730
may contribute in ways that aren't

01:43:06.730 --> 01:43:08.897
around the research mission . It could

01:43:08.897 --> 01:43:10.730
be things , you know , workforce

01:43:10.730 --> 01:43:12.952
development and other pieces , but that

01:43:12.952 --> 01:43:14.952
as you build that research agenda ,

01:43:14.952 --> 01:43:18.370
that that the way the money is flowing

01:43:18.370 --> 01:43:20.259
around has to be a little clear ,

01:43:20.500 --> 01:43:22.230
absolutely no doubts .

01:43:26.800 --> 01:43:29.390
Anything else on this particular object .

01:43:29.400 --> 01:43:32.010
Excuse me , topic or otherwise ?

01:43:33.200 --> 01:43:34.820
No other topics .

01:43:40.100 --> 01:43:41.989
Okay . Hey , and then dr movement

01:43:41.989 --> 01:43:44.211
McCrary as you brought this information

01:43:44.211 --> 01:43:46.290
up . So we will um as we take these

01:43:46.290 --> 01:43:48.123
requirements about what we'll be

01:43:48.123 --> 01:43:50.620
looking at is and not only the impact .

01:43:51.500 --> 01:43:53.500
Well , the requirements that were ,

01:43:53.500 --> 01:43:55.722
that were laying out , but we'll take a

01:43:55.722 --> 01:43:57.944
do our best to take an internal look in

01:43:57.944 --> 01:44:00.000
terms of how does this impact uh the

01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:01.889
universities that are going to be

01:44:01.889 --> 01:44:03.556
proposing , you know , the 11

01:44:03.556 --> 01:44:05.722
universities based on that structure ,

01:44:05.722 --> 01:44:07.833
in which of these mechanisms gives us

01:44:07.833 --> 01:44:10.000
the greatest opportunity for success ,

01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:12.310
um the ease of use uh and the long term

01:44:12.320 --> 01:44:14.570
strategic growth that we're that we're

01:44:14.570 --> 01:44:17.780
anticipating . So , so feel confident

01:44:17.780 --> 01:44:21.650
that we hear you and we will advocate

01:44:21.650 --> 01:44:25.320
for the best solution . And as you

01:44:25.330 --> 01:44:27.550
stated , there may be a need to have

01:44:27.550 --> 01:44:29.606
both nested here . Whether it starts

01:44:29.606 --> 01:44:31.661
out with an idea que that has grants

01:44:31.661 --> 01:44:33.661
associated with it . Whatever those

01:44:33.661 --> 01:44:33.320
requirements are we gonna ensure that

01:44:33.330 --> 01:44:35.274
we're taking all this conversation

01:44:35.274 --> 01:44:37.441
today into consideration uh to get the

01:44:37.441 --> 01:44:38.997
best case for us all over .

01:44:41.790 --> 01:44:44.190
Another question that comes to mind as

01:44:44.190 --> 01:44:47.380
you so it became clear in this

01:44:47.380 --> 01:44:49.324
conversation today , which I don't

01:44:49.324 --> 01:44:52.110
think it was as clear before that the

01:44:52.590 --> 01:44:55.820
the consortium will build the research

01:44:55.820 --> 01:44:59.130
agenda around tactical autonomy . I was

01:44:59.140 --> 01:45:01.110
in the form of task orders . I was

01:45:01.110 --> 01:45:03.332
thinking the Air Force would drive that

01:45:03.332 --> 01:45:05.054
agenda , but it seems like the

01:45:05.054 --> 01:45:08.100
consortium will do that . So do you

01:45:08.100 --> 01:45:10.267
have any thoughts about ? So let's say

01:45:10.267 --> 01:45:13.470
it's a consortium of , of a handful of

01:45:13.470 --> 01:45:17.050
universities . So can each university

01:45:17.050 --> 01:45:19.610
have their own research agenda around

01:45:19.610 --> 01:45:23.090
this area or and there's a narrative

01:45:23.090 --> 01:45:25.034
that ties it together ? Or are you

01:45:25.034 --> 01:45:28.290
expecting one research agenda for the

01:45:28.290 --> 01:45:31.490
consortium ? And each , you know , it's

01:45:31.490 --> 01:45:33.657
sort of like a handful of agendas that

01:45:33.657 --> 01:45:35.900
are tied together in a story or a

01:45:35.900 --> 01:45:38.750
central driver . And each piece does

01:45:38.760 --> 01:45:42.760
does each member does a piece of

01:45:42.770 --> 01:45:45.010
that ? Those are like the I'm thinking

01:45:45.010 --> 01:45:47.990
of the the build back better proposals

01:45:47.990 --> 01:45:50.101
that came out of the NSF engines that

01:45:50.101 --> 01:45:52.380
was mentioned . Those approaches are

01:45:52.380 --> 01:45:55.690
kind of collections of projects , not

01:45:55.690 --> 01:45:58.040
one project that collects a team , but

01:45:58.040 --> 01:46:00.262
collections of projects . Do you have a

01:46:00.262 --> 01:46:02.429
preference or you don't care ? Or both

01:46:02.429 --> 01:46:03.596
are viable solutions

01:46:06.980 --> 01:46:09.640
tim I don't know if you you're you're

01:46:09.640 --> 01:46:12.290
muted by the way . Hey , I'm sorry , I

01:46:12.290 --> 01:46:15.370
said you you're johnny on the spot . Dr

01:46:15.370 --> 01:46:17.481
Vasquez . I said I was gonna give you

01:46:17.481 --> 01:46:19.426
an opportunity to weigh in , but I

01:46:19.426 --> 01:46:21.648
wanted to start with this , which is um

01:46:22.280 --> 01:46:24.690
yes , I think is the answer to your

01:46:24.690 --> 01:46:28.400
question , doctor moody uh from a

01:46:28.410 --> 01:46:31.010
from a university lead or lead

01:46:31.010 --> 01:46:33.680
perspective , we're anticipating uh

01:46:33.690 --> 01:46:35.720
that you're identifying what the

01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:38.350
strategic plan and vision is in order

01:46:38.350 --> 01:46:40.900
to get after these requirements . Um

01:46:41.280 --> 01:46:43.860
you specifically stated . Well , can

01:46:43.860 --> 01:46:47.550
members of the consortium be

01:46:47.550 --> 01:46:50.860
conducting research that may initially

01:46:50.860 --> 01:46:52.860
look independent , but as part of a

01:46:52.860 --> 01:46:55.082
larger collective plan . I think that's

01:46:55.082 --> 01:46:57.193
what I heard if if that's incorrect ,

01:46:57.193 --> 01:46:59.249
let me know then , yes , because you

01:46:59.249 --> 01:47:01.360
are now managing and ensuring the

01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:03.780
timing is appropriate to achieve the

01:47:03.780 --> 01:47:05.947
overarching in States as you're laying

01:47:05.947 --> 01:47:08.460
them out . Dr Vasquez has specific

01:47:08.460 --> 01:47:10.920
experience as it relates to autonomy in

01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:13.031
this arena . And I wanted him to have

01:47:13.031 --> 01:47:15.253
the opportunity to come in and speak on

01:47:15.253 --> 01:47:18.570
this as well over . So thanks tim . So

01:47:18.570 --> 01:47:20.903
that the the other aspect is , you know ,

01:47:20.903 --> 01:47:22.626
where are you going to get the

01:47:22.626 --> 01:47:24.626
additional guidance ? Like in other

01:47:24.626 --> 01:47:24.100
words , if you just look at the B . A .

01:47:24.100 --> 01:47:26.730
A . And the topic description , there's

01:47:26.730 --> 01:47:28.730
only that's only the starting point

01:47:28.730 --> 01:47:30.841
really right of of what the technical

01:47:30.841 --> 01:47:33.610
work um that we're looking to get done .

01:47:33.620 --> 01:47:35.970
It's not just that description . So ,

01:47:35.980 --> 01:47:38.430
because if you if you built a portfolio

01:47:38.430 --> 01:47:40.486
around that you could build it under

01:47:40.486 --> 01:47:42.541
each of either of the two models you

01:47:42.541 --> 01:47:44.541
describe . And and the problem with

01:47:44.541 --> 01:47:46.541
that is that it's it's a little too

01:47:46.541 --> 01:47:48.708
open loop . In other words , it's it's

01:47:48.708 --> 01:47:48.390
a little too just the university

01:47:48.390 --> 01:47:50.668
figuring it out without the government .

01:47:50.668 --> 01:47:52.834
So , what , what we've been working on

01:47:52.834 --> 01:47:54.834
um in parallel with putting out the

01:47:54.834 --> 01:47:57.350
solicitation is the government side of

01:47:57.350 --> 01:47:59.420
the execution plan and how the

01:47:59.420 --> 01:48:01.198
government tees up the research

01:48:01.198 --> 01:48:02.864
objectives with a little more

01:48:02.864 --> 01:48:05.031
specificity than what's in the B . A .

01:48:05.031 --> 01:48:07.253
Um and and so that there's a little bit

01:48:07.253 --> 01:48:11.090
of TBD there ? Um And and because , I

01:48:11.100 --> 01:48:13.100
mean , my personal vision , but but

01:48:13.100 --> 01:48:14.933
again , this isn't a coordinated

01:48:14.933 --> 01:48:16.933
position yet , is that , you know ,

01:48:16.933 --> 01:48:19.156
individual SNPs within within a F . R .

01:48:19.156 --> 01:48:21.156
L . For instance would put together

01:48:21.156 --> 01:48:23.378
their their their their topics that are

01:48:23.378 --> 01:48:25.600
related to their individual portfolio .

01:48:25.600 --> 01:48:27.600
Because otherwise the university is

01:48:27.600 --> 01:48:27.180
just gonna go off and do something and

01:48:27.180 --> 01:48:29.347
it's gonna fall somewhere and if we're

01:48:29.347 --> 01:48:31.347
lucky it'll fall somewhere useful .

01:48:31.347 --> 01:48:33.458
That's not our goal . Our goal is for

01:48:33.458 --> 01:48:35.569
it to fall somewhere very useful . So

01:48:35.569 --> 01:48:37.569
that means that it has to it has to

01:48:37.569 --> 01:48:39.569
align with our current portfolio to

01:48:39.569 --> 01:48:41.569
some degree , Right ? And so how we

01:48:41.569 --> 01:48:43.569
manage that and make sure that that

01:48:43.569 --> 01:48:45.513
what we're asking for is clear and

01:48:45.513 --> 01:48:47.680
concise so that you can actually , you

01:48:47.680 --> 01:48:49.680
know , address it in in your work ,

01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:51.791
that that's a big piece of this . And

01:48:51.791 --> 01:48:53.847
again , the the actual operation and

01:48:53.847 --> 01:48:56.013
execution of that is something Tim and

01:48:56.013 --> 01:48:57.791
Sean are working on and I'll be

01:48:57.791 --> 01:48:59.902
supporting it as a , you know , as an

01:48:59.902 --> 01:49:01.902
advisor role if you all , but but I

01:49:01.902 --> 01:49:01.790
think that's a little bit on the tv

01:49:01.790 --> 01:49:03.623
decide , tim , I don't know if I

01:49:03.623 --> 01:49:05.846
overstepped that on that a little bit ,

01:49:05.846 --> 01:49:08.012
but if you want to mitigate anything ,

01:49:08.012 --> 01:49:10.234
I just said , please do , I don't think

01:49:10.234 --> 01:49:12.290
it's a mitigation , you know , as we

01:49:12.290 --> 01:49:11.880
started this conversation , you know ,

01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:13.436
there's absolutely gonna be

01:49:13.436 --> 01:49:16.030
requirements to uh to have

01:49:16.030 --> 01:49:18.280
relationships between the university

01:49:18.280 --> 01:49:20.502
lead and of course the government , I'm

01:49:20.502 --> 01:49:22.810
that guy , uh that will be doing that .

01:49:22.820 --> 01:49:26.010
The facilitation point between F . R .

01:49:26.010 --> 01:49:28.520
L . Ensuring we exposed folks to things

01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:30.687
that are coming down . Uh the that are

01:49:30.687 --> 01:49:32.909
coming down whether it be from National

01:49:32.909 --> 01:49:35.131
Defense authorization act that tells us

01:49:35.131 --> 01:49:37.298
we need to do x , Y and Z specifically

01:49:37.298 --> 01:49:39.298
as a police detective autonomy . Uh

01:49:39.298 --> 01:49:39.150
Those things are gonna happen and so

01:49:39.160 --> 01:49:41.382
communication is gonna be critical that

01:49:41.382 --> 01:49:43.660
we are from the government perspective ,

01:49:44.070 --> 01:49:45.903
dr Luther's , we're having these

01:49:45.903 --> 01:49:47.750
conversations uh based on the

01:49:47.750 --> 01:49:49.861
requirements that are being leveraged

01:49:49.861 --> 01:49:52.028
on us from an air Force or D . O . D .

01:49:52.028 --> 01:49:54.028
Perspective and we're communicating

01:49:54.028 --> 01:49:56.194
that back to you in terms of what that

01:49:56.194 --> 01:49:58.306
means as it relates to our long range

01:49:58.306 --> 01:50:00.472
planning over this five year process .

01:50:00.472 --> 01:50:03.890
So again uh continue that that that

01:50:03.890 --> 01:50:06.057
interaction that conversation is gonna

01:50:06.057 --> 01:50:08.112
be critical um for us to achieve the

01:50:08.112 --> 01:50:10.334
desired objectives that we're trying to

01:50:10.334 --> 01:50:10.070
get over

01:50:24.060 --> 01:50:27.480
thoughts , concerns .

01:50:34.860 --> 01:50:37.027
Mr Williams , I don't see any more new

01:50:37.027 --> 01:50:39.910
questions on the chat or here anybody

01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:42.280
or see any hands raised , but

01:50:43.960 --> 01:50:47.630
yeah , okay . Hey , well listen , I

01:50:47.640 --> 01:50:51.430
uh will not Uh

01:50:51.440 --> 01:50:54.140
keep you keep your hostage just because

01:50:54.140 --> 01:50:56.084
we we haven't gotten to the to the

01:50:56.084 --> 01:50:59.390
bewitching hour again from the

01:50:59.400 --> 01:51:01.490
website , you'll see , we'll do this

01:51:01.490 --> 01:51:04.320
again on the 29th . Were highly likely

01:51:04.320 --> 01:51:06.487
to update some of the information that

01:51:06.487 --> 01:51:08.431
was presented today based on these

01:51:08.431 --> 01:51:10.209
conversations . Give you a more

01:51:10.209 --> 01:51:12.470
definitive responses as it relates to

01:51:12.470 --> 01:51:15.190
some of the questions that came out and

01:51:15.200 --> 01:51:17.960
we'll do that again . It's 11 to 4 , 13

01:51:17.960 --> 01:51:20.880
30 on on the 29th . And then those are

01:51:20.880 --> 01:51:22.769
all going to be in support of the

01:51:22.769 --> 01:51:24.936
industry day where we bring our senior

01:51:24.936 --> 01:51:26.991
leaders in and we do have dr Coleman

01:51:26.991 --> 01:51:30.890
there Um uh to uh to to give you her

01:51:30.890 --> 01:51:33.001
perspective on this , this university

01:51:33.001 --> 01:51:34.890
affiliated research center that's

01:51:34.890 --> 01:51:37.001
focused on tactical autonomy and that

01:51:37.001 --> 01:51:39.168
will occur on nine August current time

01:51:39.168 --> 01:51:42.130
for that schedule . B 13 one o'clock in

01:51:42.130 --> 01:51:44.110
the afternoon on the night Until I

01:51:44.110 --> 01:51:46.900
think 15 or 1600 . But we'll we'll post

01:51:46.900 --> 01:51:48.956
that to the website uh as as soon as

01:51:48.956 --> 01:51:51.520
possible . And so that's all we have

01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:53.687
today , unless there are there and and

01:51:53.687 --> 01:51:55.742
and dr McCrary . I think that's what

01:51:55.742 --> 01:51:58.210
Miss Potter was saying earlier , thank

01:51:58.210 --> 01:52:01.220
you for giving me an honorary degree .

01:52:01.230 --> 01:52:04.290
But I'm just tim I have no PhD

01:52:04.290 --> 01:52:07.120
associated with me um and uh but it's

01:52:07.120 --> 01:52:09.120
absolutely been a pleasure speaking

01:52:09.120 --> 01:52:11.064
with you all , we will be here and

01:52:11.064 --> 01:52:14.710
available uh via email , telephone call ,

01:52:14.710 --> 01:52:16.821
whatever it is that you need in order

01:52:16.821 --> 01:52:18.988
to ensure that we're providing you the

01:52:18.988 --> 01:52:21.154
information so that you can submit the

01:52:21.154 --> 01:52:20.980
best proposals . Thank you so much .

01:52:21.860 --> 01:52:24.027
Yeah , I would like to add that we had

01:52:24.027 --> 01:52:26.249
some wonderful attendance today for our

01:52:26.249 --> 01:52:25.880
first