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Mhm

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mm hmm .

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Hey Chief . Hey , welcome back to

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another . Let's get it right this month .

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We get to talk about considerate if you

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remember last month april It was all

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about mindfulness and we talked about

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breathing . And we talked about self

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centered , being self centered ,

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finding yourself this month . It's

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about being considerate . And I look at

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that more as the outward side , right ?

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Being considerate of others . Being

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considered of what's going on around

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you , listening , recognizing being

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involved and being present . Um and

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this is kind of on our journey to next

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month's culminating topic of observant .

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And so let's spend a little bit of time

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talking about considerate . You've been

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in my office . You see in front of my

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computer , I've got that little sign

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that says I am they we've talked about

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it before , but that's my reminder that

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whatever I do , I need to be

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considerate of others , right ? Every

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decision that I make is the

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installation commander , the wing

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commander as a father or husband . It's

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going to impact other people . And so I

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make it a deliberate attempt to think

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through 2nd and 3rd order effects to

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understand the ripples that every

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decision we make has on some other

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person , some other families , some of

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their mission . And we try and be

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deliberate in those attempts . And then

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there's other times where consideration

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is ad hoc right ? You're walking into a

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building and somebody's coming up

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behind you and you hold the door

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because they got their hands full .

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That's that's considerate , right ? And

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so considerate is part of our everyday

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operation . Whether it's reactive

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responsive to what's going on around us

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or baked into the processes that we

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have to make sure we're thinking things

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through . And so that's kind of my wrap

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up of what consideration or consider it

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means to me . How about you chief ? Yes ,

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sir . I I agree . I you know , I think

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for us , so it starts with you have to

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know your people , you know , you have

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to know what's going on , what's what

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makes them tick . You have to know

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about their families . You have to know

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the things that affect them because I

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think you can't be considered of what

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they have going on . If you don't know

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them , you know what if I don't know my

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people and I walk in and you know , I'm

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an outgoing person sir , I'm very I'm

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very loud , I'm out , I'm talking if I

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walk into a room and I'm quiet and

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people don't know the kind of person I

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am . They're gonna they're not gonna

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know there might be something going on

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with me . And I think you have to know

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your people . So you see that and you

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have to be considerate of what they

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have going on . You know , the demands

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we put on people sir . Like , you know ,

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we always want to take the teammate and

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make that person , that's the go getter .

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Like give them all the work and keep

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telling them and we got to be

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considered at their time , they have a

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family , they have things going on .

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And when you know that one thing I used

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to say sir . So I used to go to when I

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was at guard mount or when I would go

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see people on post because I was a

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defender , I'd always go to the post

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and my my airman hated it . But I'd be

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like , hey where is where's schaefer

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from ? And they're like , they look at

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me like where where was he born ? Where

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was he from ? Like what what makes them

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tick And they would get mad at me like

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chief you are masters starting back

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then . Like you always ask us these

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questions and I'm like guys you have to

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understand your teammate and the reason

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I was so passionate about them getting

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to know each other is that you never

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let your teammate fall asleep on duty .

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If you know they have a wife and baby

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at home and they barely can afford um

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formula and if they fall asleep they're

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gonna get demoted and lose , lose that

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money and they're not gonna be able to

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do that and they're gonna even be worse .

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Like you're considered to that

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personnel . You're like , hey dude You

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better stay awake . I know what's gonna

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happen to your family if you get

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demoted . I know what happens if you

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get an Article 15 you need this . If

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you don't know that about them . You

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don't care if they're falling asleep ,

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you're like get in trouble . I don't

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care . And that's when I think it's an

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aspect of consideration that we don't

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talk about enough by getting to know

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people . You actually learn so much

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about them operationally and take care

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of them in a way that , that's being

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considerate of each other . When you

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don't care about people , you don't

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consider what they have going on . You

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don't care . I want to take this , I

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don't care about you . Whatever happens ,

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it doesn't matter . And that's not what

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we need in our team . Sir . We have to

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be considerate of each other . We have

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to get to know each other so we can

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take care of each other so they can do

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their job . Um , everybody's gonna have

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a bad day where they need to take a

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knee . But if you know about them ,

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then you're considered it and you're

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like , oh , maybe I shouldn't give them

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more work today . Maybe I need to help

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them . Hey man , take a knee today . I

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got something for you back here in the

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office . Hey , I'm gonna need you to go

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do this . That's utilizing everybody's

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talent and not just keep burning is the

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same person . Yeah , I love it chief .

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We talk often about people

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focused mission driven , right ? Um ,

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and sometimes we get so focused on that

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mission that we lose sight of the

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people that are around us and life just

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happens . I mean , I remember it was a

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couple weeks ago , we had a

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congressional staffer visit coming . Uh

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and I thought to myself , hey I'm gonna

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get into the office a little bit

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earlier so I can kind of read through

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some extra facts , Make sure I've got

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everything lined up . I want to make a

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good presentation to these folks

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because that's investments down down

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the road as we build advocates in in D .

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C . And so I made an attempt , went to

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the gym , got out early , back to the

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house . I'm showering . I'm on track to

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get in early . I walk out of the

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bathroom door to a stream of water

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coming through the ceiling fan and

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light fixture from the upstairs

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bathroom where a toilet is overflowing .

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I'm like okay this throws my day off ,

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right go up figure out why the toilet's

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overflowing , Clean up the mess is

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going on uh and then bolt out to the

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door to get ready for this eight

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o'clock meeting . Not the way I wanted

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to start the day and so rattled me a

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bit right because now your expectation

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your plan is thrown off . Um and so I

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have to reset and folks around me uh

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see oh he looks a little rattled .

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Something's got him fired up this

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morning . But no it was , I had a

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hiccup at home that had a ripple effect

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in life . Uh and we have to keep moving

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forward and so until you share that

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story and have that conversation ,

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people don't really understand and

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that's the point you were getting at is

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you need to understand what's going on

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around you and be considerate of

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everybody's lives and things that are

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going on . This is the great time to

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have a conversation about consideration

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because we've just moved to HP Con

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Alpha a few weeks ago . That means a

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return to the workplace , which means

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more people coming into the office ,

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more people coming to the installation

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and as the system adjusts and now

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you've got some office mates that you

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didn't have before because we were

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doing this balance of teleworking . Um ,

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there's more times for rub , right ?

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Somebody didn't fill up the coffee

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maker after they took the last cup of

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coffee . Uh , somebody snagged my lunch

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and I had the whole fridge to myself

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for a while . I can't get to the

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microwave because somebody has had

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their lunch sitting in there for 20

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minutes and it's already been done .

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You know , all of those things traffic

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at the gates lines of different

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customer service areas , but you know ,

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and , and so that causes a little bit

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of fire to kind of burning somebody .

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But then you gotta stop and think , hey ,

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what am I getting so worked up about

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what's going on ? All right , How can I

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adjust what I am doing to be more

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considerate of others . And as I'm

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coming back into the workplace , How do

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I keep that in mind ? As I start to

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reintroduce things back into the office

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space kind of like returning from a

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deployment , right ? Your family has

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adjusted to a different normal and then

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you come back and you want to do the

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dishes and you want to do the laundry

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and you want to put the kids to bed and

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your spouse is like , whoa , whoa ,

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whoa , I've lived my life for the past

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six months , a year without you . Why

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are you stepping on my toes ? Right ?

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So you need to be considerate of the

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environment you're walking into and all

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of those around you as we do this .

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Yeah . You know sir , I think what I

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love about your story though too is

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this the part where consideration

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really comes into play is , you know ,

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I know beth can handle it . I know that

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you , but when there's families that

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when that happens , the water main

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breaks , there's water runs down . Oh ,

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I gotta go , I gotta congressional

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delegation of grief and you run out the

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door and then your wife's laying there

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with three kids screaming yelling , you

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don't even want to go home at the end

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of the day because you know , you were

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in trouble . But if I know about your

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family and I , and I know the things

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that , that you have that are going on

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in your life , I might know that your

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wife was sick last week or that I know

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the kids are struggling , not , not you ,

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but I'm saying in general of that , of

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a person . Then maybe when that water

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main breaks , that's the breaking point

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in your family . And I might , you

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might come into work with weather and I

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go , hey man , why don't you just go

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home ? We'll take care of this . But

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wait , I'm supposed to breathe through

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congressional delegation . Well , yeah ,

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that's why we have airman stuff because

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or sergeant stuffy , They were

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listening , we can do this or maybe we

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need to cancel . Hey , this isn't

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probably the right day for this brief .

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Can we bring something else in and

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brief ? We can adapt and that airman

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when they go home and take care of

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their family , they come back . They're

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like , man , I can't believe they let

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me go home . I can't believe they let

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me go take care of my family . Now . We

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have increased productivity , we have

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increased morale because that airman is

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going to come back and know what you're

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willing to do for them when they have

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struggles not at work at home and we

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forget about home so much . We when

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airman struggle at work , man ,

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everybody jumps on , man , it's crazy

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the things we accomplished at work ,

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when airmen are just not figuring

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something out our products not good and

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people jump in . We have , we're gonna

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have a couple events and you know this

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month that are key events and we had

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people just jumping on the t mo I wanna

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help with this event . I want to help

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their like man people just jump into

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the table . But something happens at

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someone's home . You're like oh call

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the first sergeant . No , that's all of

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us . You know like what do we have to

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help people in those ways and our

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airmen when we do , they will run

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through a wall for us because they know

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what we're willing to do to take care

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of them . That's the consideration we

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need every day in the workplace .

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That's what we need to do . We need to

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worry about more . And then , you know

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sir , what we talked about last month ,

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you've asked the 88th Airbase wing ,

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we've asked our unit to take a knee .

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Hey , find a way that's good for your

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organization , not the wing saying this

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is how we are going to mandate

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resilience here . This is how we

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because that's not considerate of

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people's times , that's not considerate

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of what defenders do I . C . U . Nurse

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does or the Fire Department does they

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have different IOS , but we're

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concerned , hey , we think this is

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important . We're gonna be considered

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your time . Please get this done in the

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next next quarter because we know our

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airmen need to take a knee and if we

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know that we got to be considered of

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what we have to do to do that . And if

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our if we're saying our airmen need a

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knee , we gotta figure out a way to do

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it . And it all starts with taking care

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of our airmen , I think that's we have

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to be considered that we can't just

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talk it , we have to do something about

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it . So yeah , absolutely . You know ,

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the best book to me that I've read

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about consideration or being

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considerate is from our friend Adam

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Grant . We talked about , think again ,

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last fall that Adam Grant was the

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author of there's a book he wrote

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called Give and Take , and he talks

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about different reciprocity models .

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There's givers , there's takers and

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there's matches and givers , you know ,

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they're all the ones that are pouring

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into other people . Uh takers , it's

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kind of all about me , hey , I'm in

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this relationship to try and get

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something from it , and then there's

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matches that are gonna kind of mirror

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whatever you are , if you're a giver ,

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I'm gonna match that as a giver . If

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you're a taker , I'm gonna match that

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as a taker , but they're kind of the

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middle ground , and when uh mr Grant

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kind of looked at and did a study to

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say who's most successful in the world ,

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um who was at the bottom givers , who's

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at the top givers in the middle , we're

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takers and matches . And so the

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difference was at the bottom , those

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givers um also didn't kind of stand up

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for themselves , and so they were like

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floor mats , they were just run over ,

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and so takers took advantage of them ,

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but those givers at the top , also

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recognized that they had worth . And so

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they're given , it's more about an

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ultra altruistic approach , right ? I

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am selfless . I'm giving to others ,

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but I recognize my value and worth and

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I'm not gonna let you run over me . Um

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and so it was an interesting dichotomy

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of you can be a giver and get run over

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and taken advantage of , but you can be

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a giver and be the most successful

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member of your organization . And if

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you want your organization to thrive ,

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you want givers and matters and you

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want to eliminate takers , right ? And

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so there's always a give and take in a

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relationship , but if we're pouring

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into each other , we both benefit .

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Whereas if you're a taker or I'm a

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taker and the other is a giver , I'm

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just stealing from you walking away and

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making myself better and I'm not

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investing in you . And so that's what

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being considerate about . It's given to

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each other . It's investing in each

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other . It's being considered of what

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you need of what I need , of what our

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organization needs , of what our

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families need , right ? Yeah . But this

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is also so what we talked about , like

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not ego management , but this is why

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leaders need to do things with them and

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this is why we need to go volunteer .

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This is why we need to get off our

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pedestal and see what our teams are

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going through , right ? Like , you know ,

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part of that leadership , that

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dichotomy is that , you know , you get

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to that post and you just think that

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you're not you almost forget how hard

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it was to get there and be considerate

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of what it takes . And and I think ,

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you know , the give and give is awesome

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because , you know , you give a lot at

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the beginning as an airman , you're

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like , I can't give anymore , I need to

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take and then you get to the top and

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you're like you need to give back and

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how do you give back ? You know , take

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your team to volunteer showing people

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what's important going and showing them

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what you value , you know , and showing

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them and having your team learn from

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that . And I think it's something that

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we both have to do , and I love the

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give and give model of that , That's

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amazing because , you know , we do talk

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as leaders , how do we give back , how

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do we show our team that we care ? How

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do we go do what they need to do or how

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do we find out what they need ? You

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know , And so it's just I think value

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in that being considered of what our

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airmen need , what we need to get after .

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It's such just a great kind of dialogue

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that you can have with your airmen when

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we're talking about , what do we need

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to get after what I've heard you say ,

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what do we value ? What is it that we

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need to make is important in this team ?

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Maybe it's not everything , it's this

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let's get after the things that we

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value and the things that don't value .

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We need to stop doing and we need to be

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considered or that we can't just keep

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saying we can't we can't do everything .

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We've got to stop doing something .

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What are you gonna stop be considered

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that because it's your airmen's time

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that we're working on . So I appreciate

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the conversation . See if this was a

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fun one next month . We get to talk

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about observant time , mindfulness and

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consider it together . But let's be

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considerate of other folks time . We'll

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wrap up this conversation and can't

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wait to hear the side conversations

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that happened throughout this month and

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then the mid month deep dive that will

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look into a little bit more of being

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considerate . Thanks Chief