WEBVTT 00:00.540 --> 00:03.350 Okay , good afternoon and thank you so 00:03.350 --> 00:05.490 much for your patients today and 00:05.490 --> 00:07.712 welcome to the Washington foreign press 00:07.712 --> 00:09.823 centres Virtual briefing . I'm jeanne 00:09.823 --> 00:11.879 Fischetti and I'm pleased to welcome 00:11.879 --> 00:13.823 our briefer and Neuberger , Deputy 00:13.823 --> 00:16.400 assistant to the president and Deputy 00:16.410 --> 00:19.700 national security Advisor for cyber and 00:19.700 --> 00:22.140 emerging technology will provide an 00:22.150 --> 00:24.410 update on the international counter 00:24.410 --> 00:27.760 ransomware initiative . And 00:28.440 --> 00:31.360 October 13 and 14 , The White House 00:31.360 --> 00:33.670 National Security Council facilitated 00:33.670 --> 00:35.740 an international counter ransomware 00:35.740 --> 00:38.400 virtual event with over 30 countries 00:38.410 --> 00:40.770 and the European Union with the goal of 00:40.770 --> 00:42.910 accelerating cooperation to counter 00:42.910 --> 00:45.340 ransom work . The meetings addressed 00:45.340 --> 00:47.062 improving network resilience , 00:47.062 --> 00:49.173 addressing the financial systems that 00:49.173 --> 00:51.396 make ransomware profitable , disrupting 00:51.396 --> 00:53.680 the ransomware ecosystem via law 00:53.680 --> 00:55.980 enforcement collaboration and 00:55.980 --> 00:58.036 leveraging the tools of diplomacy to 00:58.036 --> 00:59.924 address safe harbors and improved 00:59.924 --> 01:02.240 partner capacity . Deputy national 01:02.240 --> 01:04.129 security adviser . Neuberger will 01:04.129 --> 01:06.073 discuss the results of this week's 01:06.073 --> 01:08.073 event and how the administration is 01:08.073 --> 01:10.018 working closely with international 01:10.018 --> 01:12.129 partners to address the shared threat 01:12.129 --> 01:14.073 of ransomware and galvanize global 01:14.073 --> 01:16.100 political will counter ransomware 01:16.100 --> 01:18.540 activities . A quick review of the 01:18.540 --> 01:20.790 ground rules for today . This briefing 01:20.790 --> 01:22.901 is on the record and we will post the 01:22.901 --> 01:25.012 video and transcript of this briefing 01:25.012 --> 01:27.830 on our website spc that state dot gov 01:28.080 --> 01:30.510 as soon as it is available . 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So we know who's asking 02:03.586 --> 02:05.586 questions and with that I will turn 02:05.586 --> 02:08.860 over to this new burger jean . Thank 02:08.860 --> 02:11.082 you so much for the introduction . Good 02:11.082 --> 02:13.304 afternoon . Good evening . Thank you so 02:13.304 --> 02:15.249 much for joining us from different 02:15.249 --> 02:17.560 outlets around the world . So I wanted 02:17.560 --> 02:19.671 to share reflections from the virtual 02:19.671 --> 02:21.560 country wants and their coalition 02:21.560 --> 02:23.560 initiative meeting we hosted at the 02:23.560 --> 02:25.504 White House earlier this week with 02:25.504 --> 02:27.570 ministers and senior officials From 02:27.570 --> 02:29.520 over 30 countries and the European 02:29.520 --> 02:31.370 Union to accelerate our jewel 02:31.370 --> 02:34.880 cooperation to fight men , participants 02:34.880 --> 02:36.850 covered everything you needed from 02:36.850 --> 02:39.060 efforts to improve national resilience 02:39.540 --> 02:41.707 to experience is addressing the misuse 02:41.707 --> 02:43.920 of virtual currency launder ransom 02:43.920 --> 02:46.160 payment . Our respective effort to 02:46.160 --> 02:48.450 investigate and possibly cybercriminals 02:48.840 --> 02:52.250 as a tool to address and diplomacy to 02:52.250 --> 02:54.490 counter once . Um while the United 02:54.490 --> 02:56.720 States facilitated the meeting , it was 02:56.720 --> 02:59.440 not only a US initiative . Indeed , 02:59.450 --> 03:02.050 every four of the focus panels were 03:02.050 --> 03:04.800 shared by other countries India . Chair 03:04.800 --> 03:07.260 the resilience panel . United Kingdom 03:07.640 --> 03:10.210 share the countering illicit use of the 03:10.220 --> 03:13.170 currency panel Australia , chaired the 03:13.170 --> 03:15.250 panel on disrupting transport 03:15.260 --> 03:17.870 infrastructure actors and finally 03:17.870 --> 03:19.660 Germany chaired the difference 03:20.840 --> 03:22.951 delegations recognized the importance 03:22.951 --> 03:25.173 of international cooperation to address 03:25.173 --> 03:27.284 the transnational threats from them . 03:27.284 --> 03:29.562 This truly wasn't just another meeting . 03:29.562 --> 03:31.784 The meeting is note working and that it 03:31.784 --> 03:33.729 was the first time the delegations 03:33.729 --> 03:35.840 brought together experts that usually 03:35.840 --> 03:38.007 operate in parallel challenge like law 03:38.007 --> 03:39.729 enforcement , have a resilient 03:40.140 --> 03:43.470 diplomacy . Financial regulators , all 03:43.470 --> 03:45.359 of these channels are relevant to 03:45.359 --> 03:47.414 disrupting ransomware and the global 03:47.414 --> 03:49.581 community really brought them together 03:49.581 --> 03:51.692 for the first time to consider how we 03:51.692 --> 03:53.803 better connect and integrate those to 03:53.803 --> 03:55.748 see where cooperation is working , 03:55.748 --> 03:58.650 where it isn't . So we can improve and 03:58.660 --> 04:01.710 encounter ransomware more . Let me talk 04:01.710 --> 04:03.766 for a moment about why international 04:03.766 --> 04:05.821 cooperation to counter ransomware is 04:05.821 --> 04:08.390 important . It is an incredibly complex 04:08.400 --> 04:10.233 ecosystem . In fact , during the 04:10.233 --> 04:12.250 opening plenary for example , the 04:12.250 --> 04:14.370 Israeli representative noted that an 04:14.370 --> 04:16.780 Israeli hospital was under attack by a 04:16.780 --> 04:19.330 ransomware attack at that moment and to 04:19.330 --> 04:21.650 demonstrate that three of the people 04:21.650 --> 04:25.550 system , one can imagine what exam that 04:25.560 --> 04:27.504 the ransomware active , the actual 04:27.504 --> 04:29.449 individuals who have launched that 04:29.449 --> 04:31.504 attack could be in one country , the 04:31.504 --> 04:33.560 countries where they were laundering 04:33.560 --> 04:35.671 the ransom payments perhaps if it was 04:35.671 --> 04:37.860 pain mhm would be to another country . 04:38.240 --> 04:40.240 The exchange could be registered in 04:40.240 --> 04:42.880 absurd countries and operating in 466 04:42.880 --> 04:44.830 countries . So that's kind of a 04:44.840 --> 04:47.980 transnational threat truly requires 04:47.990 --> 04:50.101 international cooperation to mitigate 04:50.101 --> 04:53.510 the point . Another example is Sweden 04:53.510 --> 04:55.900 maiden cassia example that shut down a 04:55.900 --> 04:58.690 Sweden set of cooperative stores this 04:58.690 --> 05:01.390 path . Something in the opening plenary 05:01.400 --> 05:03.456 Germany movies , which was the first 05:03.456 --> 05:05.622 time ever that administrative district 05:05.622 --> 05:07.678 declared a state of emergency purely 05:07.678 --> 05:11.000 from a cyber of note . Over 30 05:11.000 --> 05:13.280 countries acknowledged that uneven 05:13.280 --> 05:15.670 implementation of financial action task 05:15.670 --> 05:18.540 force rules around virtual currency 05:18.570 --> 05:21.210 enable criminals to take advantage of 05:21.210 --> 05:23.510 that uneven implementation to use 05:23.510 --> 05:25.400 virtual currency to launder the 05:25.400 --> 05:28.670 proceeds of the countries 05:28.670 --> 05:30.520 repeatedly noted the value of 05:30.520 --> 05:32.298 cooperation among international 05:32.298 --> 05:34.298 partners to enhance the exchange of 05:34.298 --> 05:35.798 information and pointed to 05:35.798 --> 05:37.687 opportunities to automate certain 05:37.687 --> 05:39.687 information exchange . So it was as 05:39.687 --> 05:42.240 rapid as the threat needs because 05:42.240 --> 05:44.462 ransomware criminals often repeat their 05:44.462 --> 05:46.573 activities , repeat their tactics and 05:46.573 --> 05:48.629 to heat more robust than real time . 05:48.629 --> 05:50.796 Communication across government cannot 05:50.796 --> 05:53.150 only intense national capabilities to 05:53.150 --> 05:55.150 address a ransomware attack . While 05:55.150 --> 05:57.320 it's half I can also potentially 05:57.440 --> 06:01.340 prevent for the big table . It 06:01.340 --> 06:04.250 takes a network fighting it . It takes 06:04.250 --> 06:06.270 a network of country connecting the 06:06.280 --> 06:08.447 individual elements within the country 06:08.447 --> 06:11.010 across diplomacy , law enforcement , 06:11.040 --> 06:12.707 financial , regular moves and 06:12.707 --> 06:14.929 resilience which served connecting that 06:14.929 --> 06:17.040 and then connecting globally to fight 06:17.040 --> 06:18.984 the network of ransomware actors , 06:18.984 --> 06:20.929 infrastructure and illicit use the 06:20.929 --> 06:23.810 virtual friends and indeed the mix of 06:23.820 --> 06:26.290 of experts that were in the room from 06:26.300 --> 06:28.300 areas that traditionally operate in 06:28.300 --> 06:30.370 parallel channels will be core to 06:30.370 --> 06:33.890 disrupting the ecos . So this meeting 06:33.890 --> 06:35.890 was really about a global community 06:35.890 --> 06:37.946 bringing together government experts 06:37.946 --> 06:40.110 for a frank exchange of where counter 06:40.110 --> 06:42.440 ransom our cooperation is working where 06:42.440 --> 06:44.820 it can be improved and what tools and 06:44.820 --> 06:46.980 best practices admits to achieve that 06:46.980 --> 06:49.750 shared goal . A recurrent dream graph 06:49.750 --> 06:51.830 the discussion with me to integrate 06:51.840 --> 06:53.951 these extra communities going forward 06:53.951 --> 06:55.951 and facilitate their cooperation to 06:55.951 --> 06:57.784 counter them and a number of the 06:57.784 --> 06:59.618 countries have committed to work 06:59.618 --> 07:01.840 together to carry them moving forward . 07:01.840 --> 07:04.710 So with that I look forward to gene 07:04.720 --> 07:07.760 activity . Thank you so much . 07:08.240 --> 07:10.650 So again , just a reminder to virtually 07:10.650 --> 07:12.817 raise your hand if you have a question 07:12.817 --> 07:15.060 and for our first question will go to 07:15.070 --> 07:18.220 Alex rafa glue from Turin News Agency 07:18.230 --> 07:21.210 of Azerbaijan Alex , please meet 07:21.210 --> 07:23.432 yourself and ask your questions . Thank 07:23.432 --> 07:26.190 you . Thank you so much and I hope you 07:26.190 --> 07:28.550 can see me and hear me Good , good 07:28.550 --> 07:30.606 evening to you . Thank you for being 07:30.606 --> 07:32.661 here when it's so late and thank you 07:32.661 --> 07:34.717 for making yourself available for us 07:34.717 --> 07:36.939 this friday . I know it has been a very 07:36.939 --> 07:38.883 long week for you countries in the 07:38.883 --> 07:40.883 south caucasus , azerbaijan Armenia 07:40.883 --> 07:42.883 Georgia , they haven't been part of 07:42.883 --> 07:44.550 this first event but they are 07:44.550 --> 07:47.230 surrounded by some malign actors in the 07:47.230 --> 07:49.360 region such as you know Russia Iran . 07:49.940 --> 07:52.910 Um given what you just said that you 07:52.910 --> 07:56.230 were talking about very wild threat to 07:56.230 --> 07:59.080 global infrastructure and no country 07:59.080 --> 08:01.770 can fight this alarm as you mentioned . 08:01.780 --> 08:03.502 Do you think the participating 08:03.502 --> 08:06.760 countries will have enough tools at 08:06.760 --> 08:08.871 their disposal to come to the defense 08:08.871 --> 08:10.740 of the consummation . The south 08:10.740 --> 08:13.850 caucasus who might be subject to the 08:14.240 --> 08:16.990 escalating threat of ransomware by 08:17.000 --> 08:19.000 Russia and Iran thank you so much . 08:19.000 --> 08:21.167 It's a really good question . So first 08:21.167 --> 08:23.270 I would say who marked this as the 08:23.280 --> 08:26.170 first of what may be numerous meetings 08:26.170 --> 08:28.337 to bring countries together and as you 08:28.337 --> 08:30.226 know , at some point there's just 08:30.226 --> 08:32.392 always an inverse relationship between 08:32.392 --> 08:34.614 the number of countries , the number of 08:34.614 --> 08:36.559 of anything you bring together and 08:36.559 --> 08:38.781 achieving practical out . So we focused 08:38.781 --> 08:40.948 on for the beginning , those countries 08:40.948 --> 08:43.550 who either for example have virtual 08:43.550 --> 08:45.661 currency exchanges in their countries 08:45.661 --> 08:48.450 who have leading certs or can really 08:48.940 --> 08:51.510 bring things to the point in the first 08:51.510 --> 08:53.660 bag come together , determine where 08:53.660 --> 08:55.382 cooperation is working , where 08:55.382 --> 08:57.950 additional cooperation is needed , put 08:57.950 --> 09:00.172 together in efforts and clearly we will 09:00.172 --> 09:02.530 reach out to additional country to join 09:02.530 --> 09:04.752 us in this effort because as you said , 09:04.752 --> 09:06.863 well , we'll ransomware is a global , 09:07.340 --> 09:09.800 this is not the last meeting . Clearly 09:09.900 --> 09:12.178 to counter ransomware . Someone global . 09:14.940 --> 09:18.920 Thank you . Thank you 09:18.930 --> 09:21.500 for our next question . We'll go to la 09:21.500 --> 09:23.930 liga of press trust of India lily . 09:23.940 --> 09:27.080 Please go ahead . Hi , thank you . 09:27.080 --> 09:29.660 Thank you for this on a , on a friday 09:29.660 --> 09:31.882 late afternoon . It's very appreciative 09:31.882 --> 09:33.938 of briefing us on this and somewhere 09:34.090 --> 09:36.770 important initiative led by us . I 09:36.770 --> 09:39.080 wanted to get your thought about the 09:39.080 --> 09:42.100 role that India played uh during this 09:42.100 --> 09:44.500 conference , the lead that it took on 09:44.500 --> 09:48.190 resilience and also what was discussed 09:48.190 --> 09:50.230 about the non state actors looking 09:50.230 --> 09:52.286 particularly in the terrorism , feel 09:52.286 --> 09:54.397 how the terrorists are using this for 09:54.397 --> 09:57.540 instance was total . Oh lily , thank 09:57.540 --> 09:59.707 you for the question . It was terrific 09:59.707 --> 10:01.850 to have India lead one of the panels 10:02.440 --> 10:05.210 and really focus an excellent 10:05.210 --> 10:08.720 discussion around resilience around the 10:08.720 --> 10:12.350 need for speed in sharing and around 10:12.350 --> 10:14.880 the fact that many of the techniques 10:14.880 --> 10:17.158 that are used are used again and again . 10:17.540 --> 10:20.130 So information that is shared will not 10:20.140 --> 10:22.880 only potentially help a country that is 10:22.880 --> 10:25.060 fighting a ransomware attack but also 10:25.060 --> 10:27.390 prevent one . And of course , you know 10:27.390 --> 10:29.223 the indian chair and many of the 10:29.223 --> 10:31.001 delegates pressed for practical 10:31.001 --> 10:33.168 outcomes um and for the need to really 10:33.168 --> 10:35.430 have practical things coming out . We 10:35.430 --> 10:37.640 didn't specifically discuss terror 10:37.640 --> 10:39.807 groups use of ransomware , although we 10:39.807 --> 10:43.110 know that moving money in an anonymous , 10:43.120 --> 10:45.660 in an anonymous , in an anonymous way 10:46.040 --> 10:48.630 around the world and in a way that is 10:48.630 --> 10:52.040 hard to trace is certainly um used by a 10:52.040 --> 10:54.096 number of illicit actions . So we're 10:54.096 --> 10:56.151 well aware they're bringing together 10:56.151 --> 10:58.318 with its cooperation particularly as I 10:58.318 --> 11:00.262 noted by working to help countries 11:00.262 --> 11:02.373 build the capacity to fully implement 11:02.373 --> 11:04.373 financial action . Task force rules 11:04.373 --> 11:06.373 will help against multiple types of 11:06.373 --> 11:08.207 actors who use Cryptocurrency to 11:08.207 --> 11:09.929 finance their list operation . 11:14.040 --> 11:17.110 Thank you uh for our next question . 11:17.110 --> 11:20.030 We'll go to Dmitry Kirsanow of task . 11:20.040 --> 11:21.929 Dmitry , please go ahead and make 11:21.929 --> 11:24.240 yourself and ask your question , can 11:24.240 --> 11:26.462 you hear me ? Yeah , we hear you good , 11:26.540 --> 11:29.070 Excellent . Thank you so very much for 11:29.070 --> 11:32.580 doing the briefing . Uh I have 11:32.580 --> 11:35.250 a couple of Russia related questions . 11:35.840 --> 11:39.190 Not surprisingly , and I wanted to ask 11:39.200 --> 11:43.010 you uh if you perhaps might 11:43.010 --> 11:46.620 have some additional details on on on 11:46.620 --> 11:50.100 the bike bilateral engagement on 11:50.100 --> 11:52.830 cybersecurity , a senior administration 11:52.830 --> 11:55.390 official briefing reporters before the 11:55.390 --> 11:58.750 ransomware summit . Sad that Russia 11:59.140 --> 12:02.320 has taken initial steps to fight 12:02.320 --> 12:05.960 ransomware attacks uh 12:06.640 --> 12:09.370 targeted at the United States and that 12:09.370 --> 12:12.930 the United States is looking for to 12:12.930 --> 12:16.010 see quote unquote follow along . So I 12:16.010 --> 12:18.500 was hoping you might explain what this 12:18.500 --> 12:22.240 follow on is That's part one in the 2nd 12:22.240 --> 12:26.150 part . It's a it's a obviously Is a two 12:26.150 --> 12:29.520 Way Street . Is the United States doing 12:29.520 --> 12:32.560 anything to combat this threat ? 12:33.240 --> 12:37.180 Uh Mhm . These 12:37.180 --> 12:39.350 are we rushed . Thank you so much . 12:40.440 --> 12:42.384 Dmitry , thank you so much for the 12:42.384 --> 12:45.360 question . So first , um I think the as 12:45.370 --> 12:48.270 you know , as was noted , the US has 12:48.270 --> 12:50.930 shared specific information about in 12:50.930 --> 12:52.986 ransom . They're criminals operating 12:52.986 --> 12:55.690 from of the election and continue to 12:55.690 --> 12:58.880 see follow on action And to address to 12:58.880 --> 13:01.370 address one . And from the perspective 13:01.370 --> 13:04.270 of the second question , we believe 13:04.270 --> 13:06.700 that responsible countries address 13:06.710 --> 13:08.766 granting activity coming from within 13:08.766 --> 13:11.170 their borders and one of them see that 13:11.170 --> 13:13.337 was facilitated and dropped together . 13:13.337 --> 13:16.080 This coalition of so many countries was 13:16.090 --> 13:18.780 to hear how cooperation is working to 13:18.780 --> 13:21.002 ensure countries of sharing information 13:21.002 --> 13:23.330 about criminal activity happening in 13:23.330 --> 13:25.386 different countries and how we fight 13:25.386 --> 13:27.386 that together . And recognizing the 13:27.386 --> 13:29.460 fact now truly fighting Hansen your 13:29.460 --> 13:32.380 requires improved resilience requires 13:32.380 --> 13:34.602 addressing the movement of funds and in 13:34.602 --> 13:36.602 many ways it's funding criminal act 13:36.602 --> 13:39.200 require supplement move from norms , 13:39.210 --> 13:43.160 for example , say responsible actors by 13:43.160 --> 13:44.993 criminals operating within their 13:44.993 --> 13:46.771 borders moving from the ones to 13:46.771 --> 13:49.810 implementation as well as of course the 13:49.810 --> 13:51.977 role of law enforcement was really one 13:51.977 --> 13:54.088 of the things we're doing here in the 13:54.088 --> 13:56.030 US to ensure that not only are we 13:56.030 --> 13:58.197 addressing it within our own borders , 13:58.197 --> 14:00.030 we're working to bring countries 14:00.030 --> 14:01.641 together to ensure that were 14:01.641 --> 14:04.110 cooperating fully assist and contribute 14:04.110 --> 14:07.730 to the global effort . And may I ask a 14:07.730 --> 14:10.790 brief full up , will you be ready and 14:10.790 --> 14:13.480 willing to prosecute cybercriminals 14:13.480 --> 14:16.010 within the United States if Russia 14:16.020 --> 14:19.170 sends shares information to that effect 14:19.180 --> 14:21.570 with you ? As you know , the United 14:21.570 --> 14:24.890 States has a law enforcement is always 14:24.890 --> 14:27.380 committed when we have I just when we 14:27.380 --> 14:29.970 have countries who share with us mutual 14:29.970 --> 14:32.670 legal assistance um information we look 14:32.670 --> 14:34.970 into that , we investigate that subject 14:34.970 --> 14:37.120 to the laws and regulations of this 14:37.120 --> 14:39.260 country and leading the standard of 14:39.260 --> 14:42.040 proof we absolutely pursue through more 14:42.040 --> 14:44.318 activity operating things within the U . 14:44.318 --> 14:45.373 S . When they were 14:48.740 --> 14:51.670 thank you for our next question . Will 14:51.670 --> 14:54.220 go to Pearl the T Bay Pearl , please go 14:54.220 --> 14:56.276 ahead and meet yourself and ask your 14:56.276 --> 15:00.120 question . Thank you so much does uh 15:00.130 --> 15:03.360 Neuberger . Um It was great talking 15:03.370 --> 15:05.370 hearing you in the briefing earlier 15:05.370 --> 15:07.700 this week and I'm glad there's an 15:07.710 --> 15:09.877 additional opportunity to ask you some 15:09.877 --> 15:12.360 questions around sub Saharan Africa . 15:14.140 --> 15:16.740 So what I'd like to kind of understand 15:16.750 --> 15:19.540 is how you intend to 15:19.550 --> 15:22.870 operationalize um and 15:22.870 --> 15:26.090 support countries like South 15:26.090 --> 15:29.820 Africa , kenya Ghana and even 15:29.820 --> 15:33.750 smaller countries like Zimbabwe because 15:33.750 --> 15:36.650 as we know , um , uh , 15:37.540 --> 15:39.660 they are going to need some capacity 15:40.540 --> 15:44.410 upscaling to help them in detecting and 15:44.410 --> 15:47.570 responding to cyber attacks and hacker 15:47.670 --> 15:50.690 activity inside , for example , South 15:50.690 --> 15:53.670 Africa's own borders , the country did 15:53.670 --> 15:56.330 already have this year , two major 15:56.340 --> 15:59.360 attacks , one on its uh Department of 15:59.360 --> 16:02.630 justice and the other on a state owned 16:02.630 --> 16:05.990 port and rail company trans lacked self 16:05.990 --> 16:09.910 limited some wondering what 16:09.910 --> 16:13.830 will your support look like in helping 16:13.830 --> 16:17.160 them ? And in addition to that , 16:17.540 --> 16:19.540 are you tracking ? I'd like to 16:19.540 --> 16:23.350 understand some data um , in terms of 16:23.740 --> 16:25.790 um , Africa right now , I think 16:25.790 --> 16:28.330 probably still has the lowest global 16:28.340 --> 16:31.430 internet penetration rate . Um , I'm 16:31.430 --> 16:33.652 not sure what that accounts to in terms 16:33.652 --> 16:36.450 of global users and yet it still seems 16:36.450 --> 16:39.970 so vulnerable um , to these global , 16:39.970 --> 16:42.026 you know , to this uh , in fact even 16:42.026 --> 16:44.026 mobile malware infection rates , so 16:44.026 --> 16:46.160 maybe you can speak to that . Thanks 16:46.840 --> 16:48.673 well , thank you so much for the 16:48.673 --> 16:50.784 questions and as you know that it was 16:50.784 --> 16:52.896 really exciting for us and in a group 16:52.896 --> 16:55.220 of countries we had Nigeria kenya , 16:55.230 --> 16:57.770 South Africa participating and really 16:57.770 --> 16:59.937 contributing insights and thoughtful , 16:59.937 --> 17:02.480 thoughtful , just experiences from 17:02.480 --> 17:05.000 their fight against us . So to your 17:05.000 --> 17:07.222 point , a number of the british open to 17:07.222 --> 17:09.056 talk about the need for capacity 17:09.056 --> 17:11.111 building that is around resilience . 17:11.111 --> 17:13.222 You know , search to search exchanges 17:13.222 --> 17:15.380 exchanging information rapidly about 17:15.380 --> 17:17.602 tactics and techniques and how to fight 17:17.602 --> 17:19.960 them as well , um capacity building 17:19.960 --> 17:23.020 around tracing a virtual currency 17:23.030 --> 17:25.320 analysis of the Blockchain and how to 17:25.320 --> 17:27.153 look through that as well as the 17:27.153 --> 17:29.264 routine capacity building law and law 17:29.264 --> 17:30.987 enforced . There was certainly 17:30.987 --> 17:33.209 discussions around more and I think one 17:33.209 --> 17:35.153 of the , one of the core takeaways 17:35.153 --> 17:37.320 which is to say , let's analyze what's 17:37.320 --> 17:39.542 working and where the gaps are . And we 17:39.542 --> 17:41.542 invited all the countries to really 17:41.542 --> 17:43.653 submit their perspectives on that was 17:43.653 --> 17:43.080 to get a good understanding the book of 17:43.080 --> 17:45.247 different countries in the coalition . 17:45.247 --> 17:48.340 So they needed to be a full member of 17:48.350 --> 17:51.000 countering that ransomware . So that's 17:51.000 --> 17:52.889 the first thing I would say . The 17:52.889 --> 17:54.667 second thing I would say , as I 17:54.667 --> 17:56.667 mentioned in the Israeli Hospital . 17:56.667 --> 17:58.778 Yeah . Is that some part of the fight 17:58.778 --> 18:00.944 is really a global fight to work . For 18:00.944 --> 18:02.778 example , when the United States 18:02.778 --> 18:04.778 designated the first ever cook your 18:04.778 --> 18:07.111 currency exchange a couple of weeks ago . 18:07.111 --> 18:08.900 You know that exchange while 18:08.900 --> 18:11.020 headquartered in while registered in 18:11.020 --> 18:12.853 one country headquarter in other 18:12.853 --> 18:14.964 countries , but facilitating movement 18:14.964 --> 18:17.242 of Cryptocurrency all around the world . 18:17.242 --> 18:19.242 So in some ways the work that we're 18:19.242 --> 18:21.187 doing a lift all boats in terms of 18:21.187 --> 18:23.298 benefiting all countries as well . So 18:23.298 --> 18:25.131 we will have that balance in the 18:25.131 --> 18:28.170 capacity building that comes out of May 18:28.170 --> 18:32.100 I ask a follow up question . So for 18:32.100 --> 18:34.240 my audiences to understand , might 18:34.240 --> 18:36.930 there be any help in terms of working 18:36.930 --> 18:40.710 with local law enforcement companies to 18:40.710 --> 18:43.120 help them in the arrests and 18:43.120 --> 18:45.450 prosecutions of those . And you know , 18:45.460 --> 18:47.940 are you looking to prosecute in the US 18:47.940 --> 18:50.051 or does it matter what jurisdiction ? 18:50.240 --> 18:52.810 Um , and how would that , how would 18:52.810 --> 18:54.810 that operationalize ? I'm trying to 18:54.810 --> 18:56.977 understand . Yes , I understand . This 18:56.977 --> 19:00.960 is the overview of the initiative and 19:01.340 --> 19:03.370 how can my beneficiary sitting in 19:03.370 --> 19:05.430 Johannesburg understand what that 19:05.440 --> 19:08.500 impact is to them ? It's a really good 19:08.500 --> 19:10.500 question . So one of the panels was 19:10.500 --> 19:12.611 disruption and we had a good group of 19:12.611 --> 19:15.040 local police , national police , law 19:15.040 --> 19:17.096 enforcement and they were discussing 19:17.096 --> 19:19.040 the different regulatory and legal 19:19.040 --> 19:20.929 models around the world and had a 19:20.929 --> 19:23.151 better connect them so that information 19:23.151 --> 19:25.373 is flowing in a rapid roll . So I think 19:25.373 --> 19:27.484 for one key area is going to be these 19:27.484 --> 19:29.540 questions that we now will go out to 19:29.540 --> 19:31.651 the group to learn from the models in 19:31.651 --> 19:31.360 different countries , which will then 19:31.360 --> 19:33.650 help us do the step to which is to say , 19:33.650 --> 19:35.261 how do we better connect the 19:35.261 --> 19:37.570 information and the capacity building 19:37.570 --> 19:39.360 to the right entity in each . 19:43.140 --> 19:45.196 Thank you so much . You're welcome . 19:45.940 --> 19:48.107 Thank you Pearl . I think we have time 19:48.107 --> 19:50.107 for one or two more questions . I'm 19:50.107 --> 19:52.218 going to go to one that was submitted 19:52.218 --> 19:54.880 in advance from Haijun Sale from Radio 19:54.880 --> 19:57.950 Free Asia who asks during the meeting 19:57.960 --> 19:59.793 was the effort to mitigate North 19:59.793 --> 20:02.330 Korea's cyber threat discussed . There 20:02.330 --> 20:04.441 have been reports that North Korea is 20:04.441 --> 20:06.497 targeting several media corporations 20:06.497 --> 20:09.680 using COVID-19 as a theme . How should 20:09.680 --> 20:11.624 this problem be tackled when North 20:11.624 --> 20:13.569 Korea is such a difficult actor to 20:13.569 --> 20:16.110 control . So this particular meeting 20:16.110 --> 20:18.680 focused on ransom room and I focused on 20:18.680 --> 20:21.090 the four elements of the flight rather 20:21.090 --> 20:23.780 than any particular country focused on 20:23.790 --> 20:25.770 uniting law enforcement efforts , 20:25.770 --> 20:28.150 uniting efforts to trace illicit , use 20:28.150 --> 20:30.400 it with their currency and focused on 20:30.400 --> 20:32.910 building resilience and deepening 20:32.910 --> 20:36.540 diplomatic partnership to ensure that 20:36.540 --> 20:39.860 norms around addressing ransom activity 20:39.860 --> 20:42.193 from within borders are fully implement . 20:42.240 --> 20:44.073 There was not a discussion about 20:44.073 --> 20:45.740 broader cyber activity or any 20:45.740 --> 20:49.740 particular country does it ? Right . I 20:49.740 --> 20:51.962 think we have time for one more . We'll 20:51.962 --> 20:54.280 go to sergei papa from Ria novosti . 20:54.340 --> 20:56.396 Sergei go ahead and get yourself and 20:56.396 --> 20:57.507 ask your question . 21:04.840 --> 21:08.810 Mm mm Three . Can you can you 21:08.810 --> 21:09.350 hear me 21:15.040 --> 21:16.860 and see if I can mr news ? 21:21.240 --> 21:22.962 Okay go ahead . You're a muted 21:32.540 --> 21:34.596 No , he says sorry I guess my mic is 21:34.596 --> 21:36.651 off . All right . Well if you anyone 21:36.651 --> 21:38.873 like to submit a question in writing um 21:38.873 --> 21:41.040 we can certainly get those back to the 21:41.040 --> 21:43.570 briefer for uh he wrote his question 21:43.570 --> 21:46.170 and I think I'll read it . He says um 21:46.180 --> 21:48.291 as you said , the number of countries 21:48.291 --> 21:50.291 who take part in the meeting may be 21:50.291 --> 21:52.458 expanded but why Russia wasn't part of 21:52.458 --> 21:55.090 the first one ? First volume . So as 21:55.090 --> 21:57.260 we've noted , the U . S . Has a candid 21:57.260 --> 21:59.730 professional and very direct set of 21:59.730 --> 22:01.610 conversations with Russian about 22:01.610 --> 22:03.610 criminal activity ? Random activity 22:03.610 --> 22:05.900 coming from this direction . So we felt 22:05.900 --> 22:09.160 that we had good honest candid 22:09.160 --> 22:11.327 discussion and information sharing the 22:11.327 --> 22:13.549 community . We focus this discussion on 22:13.549 --> 22:15.660 bringing together a broader coalition 22:15.660 --> 22:17.771 of countries we were not talking with 22:17.771 --> 22:19.771 regularly in that integrated way To 22:19.771 --> 22:21.993 discuss how we deepen our cooperation , 22:21.993 --> 22:21.920 how we identify the gaps in our 22:21.920 --> 22:24.120 cooperation to more effectively fight 22:24.120 --> 22:25.120 one . 22:28.340 --> 22:30.630 Okay , great . Thank you . And with 22:30.630 --> 22:33.550 that , um I want to thank our briefer 22:33.560 --> 22:36.490 for her time today and to discuss this 22:36.490 --> 22:38.546 important event and thank you to our 22:38.546 --> 22:40.657 journalists for their participation . 22:40.657 --> 22:42.823 This briefing is now concluded . Thank 22:42.823 --> 22:45.330 you so much . Thank you all best wishes 22:45.330 --> 22:45.960 for a good weekend .