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Okay , good morning , ladies and

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gentlemen , thank you all for joining .

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It's great to see so many people here

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today , I'm Colonel Cathy Wilkinson .

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I'm the army media relations director .

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And today we have secretary warmth to

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staff , the army General McConville and

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some major of the army , Michael

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Greenstone . The secretary just gave a

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speech up in the , in the ballroom . So

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we don't have any opening comments .

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We're gonna get right into questions .

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Um , I will call on you . So please do

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it for me well . And we'll rotate

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between people in the room and on the

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phone . So if you could please identify

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yourself and your outlet and in the

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sake of time , please one question and

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if we have any follow up so we can get

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to those later on . So ma'am , I'm

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sorry . I'm doing opening comments .

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Okay , so we have , uh , leader Baldur

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on the phone lita

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Hi , good morning . Thanks so much for

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doing this . My question is for the

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secretariat for the chief . Could you

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talk a little bit about the effort to

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roll out the mandatory vaccine ? How

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that's going ? What percentage of your

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active duty force and what percentage

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do you think of the gardeners or have

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you been able to get vaccinated and

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considering the challenges posed by

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doing this for the guard ? Can you talk

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about any additional effort that the

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army , they may be in order to get that

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done And uh , some of his justified

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thing . Has that affected recruiting in

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any way do you think ? Thank you .

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Good morning . Lead . Uh , I don't want

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to touch the microphone after this

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morning , but can you all hear me ?

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Okay , Okay . Um , here's where we are

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on the mandatory vaccines and you know ,

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first of all , I want to just stress

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that the vaccines are important for the

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health and safety and readiness of our

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force . So this is something that we

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need to be doing and it's the right

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thing to be doing . I get notifications

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of any time a soldier in our army dies .

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And I can tell you that the number of

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soldiers and Department of Army

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civilians or contractors that are

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passing away due to Covid has increased

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markedly in the last couple of months .

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I think , reflecting , you know , the

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effects of the delta variant . So at

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this time we've got about

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67% of the total army has

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received at least the first shot . And

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for the active duty component , that is

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91% of our active duty soldiers have

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received at least one shot . And if I'm

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not mistaken , I think about 81% of the

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active force is fully vaccinated . Um ,

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our numbers are somewhat lower in the

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Garden Reserve , uh , in the reserve

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for example , we've got about 44% of

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our reserve soldiers who have gotten at

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least the first shot . Uh , and I'd

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refer you to the Guard Bureau to get

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the percentages for the Guard Bureau .

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And I think what you're seeing there

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with our reserve components is a couple

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of things . You know , they're

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obviously , first of all , we have the

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largest reserve component of all of the

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services . And so I think that's , you

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know , it's important to sort of factor

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that in . But obviously we have

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soldiers that are spread all around the

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country . Many of our reservists uh do

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not live necessarily particularly close

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to the unit that they belong to . They

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only come in , you know , one weekend a

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month . Uh and so our ability to

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collect data on them and to um check

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with them on how they're doing and

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making sure that they've gotten their

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vaccination status into med pros . You

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know , we only have a few opportunities

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to do that relative to the active force

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that we see every day . Now . I do

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think , you know , there is probably a

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significant percentage of our guard and

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reservists who have actually been

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vaccinated uh you know , in the

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civilian market if you will but may not

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have entered that data into med Pros

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yet . So what we're trying to do is to

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make sure when they come in for drill

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weekend to capture that and you know ,

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just as an example and she'll she'll be

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annoyed that I mentioned this . But my

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sister is in the army reserves , she's

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a surgeon and she's been vaccinated for

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months as you can imagine for as part

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of her civilian job but I kinda have a

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feeling her data is not yet in med pros .

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So she is a good example , I think of

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the phenomenon that we're going to see

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in our guard and reserve on the vaccine

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implementation plan and I'll stop there

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okay in the room . See they

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come on roll out . Sharp remains right

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with the announcement recently with The

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first stage of the sharp revamp with

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effectively what are sexual assault

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resource centre is opening up in a

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handful of basis . That's basically a

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sequel to a program the army did in

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2014 . Uh , most of the rollout isn't

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gonna happen for for most things until

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2027 . Uh , we're a year and a half

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after the Vanessa again incident . Um ,

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and the first step is just these

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centers that we already have in some

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base or have had in the past . So is

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this , does this show that the army is

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serious about tackling this stuff and

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what other tangible programs as the

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army going to do to combat sexual

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assault harassment ? Sure , I'll take

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that . First of all , I would say we're

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doing much more to deal with the sexual

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harassment sexual assault challenge

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than just rolling out the fusion

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directorate pilots . Um , you know , we

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we have been working on this problem

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since immediately after what happened

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at fort Hood . You know , fundamentally ,

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I think what's really needed to make

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change is to focus on our command

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climate and making sure that we have

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healthy command climates at all of our

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installations worldwide and to do that .

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We're doing a few different things .

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First of all we have that this is my

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squad philosophy which is really trying

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to do bottom up making sure that our

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soldiers are looking after for each

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other , that our leaders are looking

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after our soldiers and trying to

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connect soldiers , leaders and families .

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We also have our cohesion assessment

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teams which we are essentially flying

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out to installations Where either a

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commander has asked for the team or

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where we have concerns that there could

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be an issue with the command climate .

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We've done several of those this year

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and we're going to have the capacity to

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have 12 cohesion assessment teams

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annually . So that will be an important

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tool . We have our detox command

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climate surveys that are helping us as

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well . And we have , as I said in my

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speech , hired a civilian director for

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side and we're moving to have 60% of

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our special agents be civilian . Which

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will mean that we'll have deeper

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investigative expertise at our

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installations because we won't have

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such a large percentage of our agents

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moving from assignment to assignment

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will be able to have people who are um

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deeply specialized to complement our

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military C . I . D . Agents . So that

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that's all there as well as the Fusion

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directorate . But there's more to be

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done . Uh don't get me wrong . I think ,

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you know , we have to make sure that we

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don't take our eyes off this ball . Um

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This is something we're going to have

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to focus on year after year after year .

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It can't just be sort of a cycle of

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crisis to complacency . Okay .

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Singing room john johnson

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uh Secretary warmth , you mentioned in

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your speech today are focused on your

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speech , on some analysis that it will

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be across the board that you have

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ongoing now to look at things from

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readiness to modernization . Um So I

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wanted a sense of what is on the table .

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What is it not on the table ? Are you

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considering the potential of reducing

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and strength ? For instance ,

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we're looking at , as I said in my

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speech , everything that we do and

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everything about how we do it . So

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we're looking at , you know , how can

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we be innovative , How can we do more

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with what we have um what kinds of

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force structure do we need to make sure

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that were relevant for the future ? War

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fight , what that mix needs to be ,

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what are the kinds of capabilities that

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that force structure needs to be

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effective ? So , I think it's fair to

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say we are , we are looking at

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everything but it is essential that we

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transform for the future and the

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modernization program that we have

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embarked on is a critical piece of that

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transformation . As General McConville

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says frequently , you know , this is

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the most ambitious modernisation the

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army has undertaken in four decades and

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that set of modernization priorities is

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incredibly important . So we will

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certainly be looking to uh protect that

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because it's so core to what we're

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doing here . We

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Haley rips you a task and purpose used .

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The secretary , you spoke about this um

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in your comments , but a lot of the ,

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this is my squad people first is

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looking at the installations , looking

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at that command climate . Um and these

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lower echelon units . Um but in recent

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weeks we've seen news that you know ,

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uh the head of a couple which works at

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the pentagon with all of you may not

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have been abiding by that kind of

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thinking about command climate . Is

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there any concern ? Um you know , that

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some of these leaders who have been in

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the army for a long time , they have

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been having a hard time adjusting to

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this . Uh you know , sort of people

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first new way of of prioritizing things .

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And do you feel that you know , you as

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senior leaders should be looking more

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at those higher echelon leaders and

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making sure that they're abiding by

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those uh people first mentality as well

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as the lower echelon leaders .

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Well , Haley , I don't want to comment

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on an ongoing investigation , but more

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broadly , you know , here's what I

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would say . Uh it is critical that we

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be looking at the ability of our more

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senior leaders to have healthy command

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climates and we are trying to do that

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in a number of different ways . You

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know , again , with the cap and see cap

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program , we are explicitly looking at

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uh you know , a potential leaders past

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performance in terms of climate . Part

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of the psychological evaluations that

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are part of those programs allow us to

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look essentially at , you know , to

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screen out toxic leaders if you will .

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And I think as we've been running that

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program , we've been able to use that

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effectively to help us do that . So I

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think that will be something that's

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going to be a really important tool for

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us going forward . And with the deok

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surveys are also a very valuable tool

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in terms of helping us understand uh

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when some of our , you know , one or

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two star generals may have some

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challenges and may need some coaching

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there . So we're trying to leverage

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that to help us find where we have

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trouble spots . Madam Secretary , if

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you don't mind real quickly on that is

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that for the start majors at the

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brigade level we will have , it will be

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a binding assessment , they will go

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through and during that they do the

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enlisted leader evaluation tool . When

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we look at some of those things that

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may we may not have looked at in the

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past . So we're working at it from

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TIM's from the squad were also holding

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those leaders are cannibal that they

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have to go through the assessment um

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before there will be a brigade CSM and

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that will be binding and that starts in

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november . And that's one of those ways

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we're looking at , not just , you know ,

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we're looking at it from all levels .

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Uh hi get real with like global , my

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question is about mobility in the

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pacific , does the army field that has

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enough transport to move its troops

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around the pacific obviously really

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rely a lot on the air force and the

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navy for that . Are you looking at ways

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to increase your capacity um to pop

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around the pacific ?

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I'll say a couple of things and then

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General McConnell may want to add um as

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I said in my speech , you know , the

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vast distances of the indo pacific

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theater are are definitely a challenge

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and its logistics and sustainment or

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something that we're , we have been

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looking hard at and I think that we'll

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have to continue looking hard at , you

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know , for example , I've had um some

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retired generals raised concerns to me

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about the number of watercraft that we

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have , for example , and having been

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able to go out to hawaii and see one of

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our water crafts and what they're

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capable of doing . You know , that's a

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really important capability that the

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army has had the responsibility to do

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the um joint concept for contested

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logistics and through that kind of a

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project , we are looking hard at what

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our capabilities are and whether we

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have enough for what we need to do just

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to add that speed and range really

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matter uh in the pacific and if you

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take a look at what are some of the

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modernization priorities , our future

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long range assault aircraft that flies

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much faster and goes much further ?

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That's what's driving at , you know ,

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the the idea of watercraft and how will

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still have to move around the pacific

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again , after you move by ear , you're

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gonna move by sea . Just kind of makes

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sense . And we need to have those

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capabilities and we need to have those

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capabilities in the contested

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environment and and that's where um

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we're developing a lot of those systems .

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And even when we take a look at long

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range precision fires , I mean that's

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why the speed and range is there

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because you're gonna have to engage

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targets that at significant range with

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significant speed and the other thing

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about speed . His speed is just not

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about the individual weapons system .

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It's really about the convergence of

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multiple systems . If you can make

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decisions faster based on sensors and

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shooters , uh you actually get much

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quicker speed and the actual weapons

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system itself . So all those things are

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part of project convergence . All those

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part of the decision dominance and

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that's what we think it will give us

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the overmatch , we need to support the

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Joint Force . Yeah .

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Hi Ashley rookie with James , um I just

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want to drill down a bit more about the

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analysis and modernization , Madam

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Secretary , you have been have been

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very forthcoming that you support the

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modernization but you've also cautioned

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that you might need to take a look at

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certain programs ? Could you sort of

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elaborate on what that looks like and

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sort of the timeline , what questions

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are you dealing with right now ? Um and

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maybe sort of how that change from the

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previous administration and sort of

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what are sort of the timetables and

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questions you have going forward um to

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look at the budgets and where things

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stand . So I'm not

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gonna say very much about the analysis

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right now because it's pre decisional .

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Um but you know , we are we are again

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looking at some of the fundamental

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questions that I raised in my speech

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which is , you know , how are we going

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to fight , which theaters do we need to

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be really focused on , what

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capabilities do we need uh and we're

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going to use analysis to help us look

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at those kinds of questions I think um

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obviously we're also going to be

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looking at things like the performance

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of the new programs that we have in

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development . You know , are they on ,

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are they staying on schedule ? You know ,

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are they coming in at the cost that we

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expect them to be at ? You know , when

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we look at at scaling up some of these

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programs that are just prototypes right

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now . What does that mean in terms of

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affordability ? So I think this will be

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something that will be iterative . You

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know , we we get the pleasure of

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building upon every single year . So

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there will be opportunities each year

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to sort of inject the insights that

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we're getting from our analysis to help

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General McConville and I make good

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decisions about the overall program ,

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Caitlyn ,

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Hi Caitlin Kenney with Defense one . in

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your speech you talked about some of

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the roadblocks internally about meeting

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the challenge is trying to be creative

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and and maybe some skepticism to new

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thinking . Is there any way within the

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army that soldiers can contribute their

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ideas and opinions too ? You know ,

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some of the ways that you guys can face

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like these future challenges whether

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regardless of rank , where they are ,

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you know , within like the army uh and

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what jobs they're possessing . That's a

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great question and I want to say , you

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know , I I know the chief and I

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absolutely welcome input from the field ,

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you know from soldiers from uh N C O .

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S . We want good ideas . Uh and I think

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there's a variety of different ways to

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get that to us . But you know , one

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thing I would highlight for example is

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with 18th Airborne Corps , they have a

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program . I forget exactly what um

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General Carrillo calls it , but

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essentially like a shark tank like

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competition to basically allow soldiers

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to submit ideas and sort of compete and

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pick the most creative ones . And

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that's been really successful . So I

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think building on that kind of a of an

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initiative is a very smart thing for us

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to be doing one of the things about

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really , all our modernization programs

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now , 31 plus four , what we're seeing

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is we're bringing , what we call

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soldiers . Touch points points in much

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sooner rather than , you know , handing

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off to uh , you know , the acquisition

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community and they come back a couple

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of years later with the program . Now

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we're working very closely in a

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collaborative way where soldiers

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actually that are going to operate the

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system , get a chance to get on the

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system and they're , they're bringing

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in great feedback for the engineers and

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they are making those changes as we go

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along and we're finding that we're

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getting much better results from having

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the soldiers involved all along the way .

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Okay , over on this side , go ahead .

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Hi matt Leinart from defense daily . So

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following up a bit on the analysis

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piece and looking at how the

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modernization programs are performing

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in the lead up to this budget cycle .

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We heard a lot of the talk about the

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low hanging fruit in terms of pulling

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off from some of those funds to shift

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to fully funding modernization was

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getting tougher choices were getting

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tougher . Is there more consideration

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than being given to stretching out some

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of the schedules of the 31-plus 4

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signature systems in order to save

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those funds that you may be , aren't

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being able to get with all the low

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hanging fruit being picked off from

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divestiture decisions . Thanks , I

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think , you know , first of all , we're

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going to want to see frankly how the

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budget picture shakes shakes out . You

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know , we haven't seen obviously the

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final number that we're going to get

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this year from Congress . Uh , and

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again , you know , every year we sort

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of have another chance to sort of look

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at these kinds of issues . But but I

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think certainly we would be looking at ,

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you know , the possibility of the

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schedule of different programs as a way

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that that might be something that gives

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us flexibility . I also want to

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emphasize that , you know , we're

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looking at everything and we have to

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look at everything . So it's not just

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the modernization , but we have to look

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at our infrastructure and you know ,

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where can we generate efficiencies

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there ? We have to look at things like

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readiness . You know , how are we um ,

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how are we defining what readiness is ,

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How are we executing our readiness ?

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You know , a good example of the way

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that we're able to generate some

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efficiencies on readiness has been with

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our exportable training rotations . You

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know , the ones that will be doing in

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Alaska and Hawaii , for example , that

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that offers some savings for us in

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addition to allowing the units to train

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in the environment where they would be

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operating . You know , whether it's

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more of a jungle kind of environment in

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Hawaii or to be able to test the cold

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weather equipment in Alaska for example .

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Helen

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Hi , Ellen Malaysia's synopsis as you

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look at reorganizing the army , army

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medicine has had leased the lion share

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of the military's medical research and

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it's now been moved into um futures

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command and Congress once it moved over

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to the defense health Agency and the

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army has been fighting that

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traditionally . Do you see the army

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going ahead and giving military medical

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research as part of this reorganization ?

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Well , we certainly think that there

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are some that some of what we're doing ,

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you know , in terms of medical research

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is really important to us from sort of

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a combat perspective . Um And that has

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been part of our argument for keeping

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some of those capabilities in the army

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in futures command , if I'm not

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mistaken . I think there is um language

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I believe that was in the House bill

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that allows this issue to be uh an item

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in conference and so we'll see again

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where that comes out . But certainly

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our perspective is that there are some

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some things in our medical domain that

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would be we think preferable to keep

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with the army , Davis ,

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Davis winky army times . So you know ,

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we see a lot of talk about creating a

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multi domain fighting force to include

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the cyber domain but we're seeing some

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of the army's I . T . Modernization

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projects falter . We saw the failed

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rollout of army ignited . We've seen a

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new delay in the ifs a launch and

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there's been issues with the fast where

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you know , soldiers don't know how much

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user lose leave they have and so what

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kind of oversight and accountability

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are there for these projects And um ,

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you know , how can you help soldiers

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have faith that they're going to be ,

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have , you know , the cyber domain have

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their back when they're out there in

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the field , when say they can even

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foolproof get their tuition assistance

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that many of them joined for . Yeah ,

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it's nice to see you in person , Davis .

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Um , it's always nice to put a face

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with a voice . Um , so we have had some

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challenges . We did have some

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challenges with the online tuition and

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the ignite . Uh , and frankly it's in

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part because of that experience and the

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lessons learned from that experience

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that when we looked at where it's a was

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we made the decision that it was better

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to delay the roll out of that so that

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we could make absolutely sure that the

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system was going to work when it

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actually does go live . And this is

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something , you know , we're trying to

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have a lot of oversight of these

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efforts . We have senior leaders in

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both army commands and in the

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secretariat who are responsible for

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these programs and who are looking at

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these programs . So we really want to

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make sure that when it's a goes out

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that it will work well . But I think we

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are also trying , you know , like with

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the situation that we had with tuition

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to try to develop some workarounds in

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real time so that soldiers can get

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assistance and more able to get

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reimbursement . And so we're certainly

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always gonna want to try to make sure

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if there's a problem with one of our

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systems that we find ways to give

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soldiers , you know , some mitigation .

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Yeah , the , the integrated personality

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pay system , Army or IPSA as we like to

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call it , That is a transformational

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system that we absolutely have to have

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the army if we're gonna move from an

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industrial age system to a 21st century

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talent management system , which we

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need as , you know , it's in the guard

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right now and it's functioning very ,

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very well in the garden . As the

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secretary said , we took the lessons

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learned and made sure that this system

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is absolutely ready to go . It's being

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overseen by the , the acting

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undersecretary and the vice chief ,

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it's got the highest levels by self and

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the secretary routinely take briefs on

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the integrated personnel and pay system

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and , and we're gonna make sure that

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that that is done uh , successfully .

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And even as we start to feel that

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system , we're going to have , um ,

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pauses along the way to make sure it's

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absolutely working where , which is a

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little different than we did with the

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tuition assistance system is , you know ,

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we go to a new system , we wanna make

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sure that , you know , the system fully

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works before we give it to the soldiers

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like you said . So I made you want to

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talk about that . Yeah , we definitely

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had a lot of learns from army ignited

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and but we do want to highlight a

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couple of things that we have our

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soldiers . We talked a little bit about

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it , but the things we're doing now

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look at what we're having with software

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factory . We talk about innovation all

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the way so that the software factory ,

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we have soldiers that already are

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experts at coding . And when you look

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at systems , if we don't have the

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experts and a soldier touch point ,

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when you get to the coding , you know ,

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we need to know what we look . Do we

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know what we're looking at when we look

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at that coating . So it's actually a

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good news , um , that we are trying to

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have when we have the soldier touch

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points ? We have the soldiers in our

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formations and the software factories

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building those soldiers so that they

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can go in when you get these high tech

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situations that we have soldiers that

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are in the formations that we could say ,

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hey , here's the soldiers test point

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and their credentials and they can go

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look at those things from a soldier's

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perspective and make sure we get it

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right . You have time for one last

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question .

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I'm MEREDITH rotten from National

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Defence Magazine and I wanted to ask

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about the appropriations process and

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it's clear that a continuing resolution

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would be problematic across the

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pentagon . Would it be possible for you

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to touch on how that would impact the

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army and if there are any programs in

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particular that you would be concerned

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about ? Sure . Uh sadly we've

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become all too familiar with continuing

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resolutions and then the necessity of

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operating in that kind of a budgetary

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environment but it's definitely not our

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preference , I think , you know , where

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CRS are problematic for a few reasons ,

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um , you know , fundamentally they're

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disruptive and inefficient . And I

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think one of the biggest problems with

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the CRS is that , you know , we are

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prohibited from having new starts in

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our in our budget now , you know , we

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can through anomalies seek relief in

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certain very targeted areas and we will

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do that if necessary . But it also is

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problem for us in terms of recruiting

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and retention , uh some of the special

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pays and bonuses and other kinds of

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incentives can be disrupted by a

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continuing resolution . So you know ,

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those are just , I would say a few

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examples of the kinds of challenges

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that we could have and , and um we have

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looked at , you know , there are ,

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there are a few different programs in

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our modernization portfolio that that

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you know , could potentially be

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disrupted but like I said , we can seek

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some target or relief through that

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through an anomaly request . Okay ,

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thank you very much for coming , do the

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panel have any closing comments or Okay ,

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just thanks everyone for being here ,

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appreciate it . Just on the , on the

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budget side . Timely adequate ,

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predictable and sustainable funding is

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is really important for the whole

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enterprise , uh , to be able to meet

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his priorities as we go forward . And ,

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and , and that's what we've learned

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over the last couple of years . So

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thank you . Thank you all for coming .

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And , um , if you have any questions

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for in room one or three next door to

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you , uh , we appreciate it and have

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a good rest of your day paul kelly .

