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Mhm Okay , good afternoon everybody .

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And it will start in just a few minutes

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late . Uh we are time constrained today .

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So um I'll pass it right over to the

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Secretary for opening comments . I will

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be moderating please uh limit follow

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ups if you can . Mr Secretary , thanks

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john , I'm going to speak briefly and

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then turn it over to the Chairman for

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an operational update . Let me start by

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saying that we remain laser focused

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right now on Hamid Karzai International

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Airport in Kabul and I'm doing

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everything that we can to continue

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evacuating americans allies ,

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afghans who have worked

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alongside us and and also other

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courageous afghans at special risk .

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And to that end , I'm prioritizing

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three key concerns . First , the safety

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and security of our people and the

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people that were trying to evacuate .

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As the chairman will brief you , the

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final elements of additional military

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forces continue to flow into Kabul With

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about 4500 in place as we speak .

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They are trained and equipped to defend

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themselves and their operations . There

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have been no hostile interactions with

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the taliban and our lines of

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communication with taliban commanders

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remain open as they should be .

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My second focuses maintaining security

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at the airport itself in concert with

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forces from our allies . Our troops

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have set up defensive positions around

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the airport and the airport is able to

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function safely . Now . We don't take

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this for granted and I continue to be

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in daily contact with General Mackenzie

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and commanders on the ground to make

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sure that they have what they need to

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keep it safe . My third area of

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focus , of course is the pace

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increasing the flow of aircraft and

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people out of Kabul And we've flown out

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several 1000 since 15 August and our

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goal is to be able to increase our

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capacity every day going forward . And

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as we build out this capacity , we're

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working hand in glove with the State

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Department which is leading the whole

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of government effort to notify and

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process american citizens who are

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leaving and to urgently identify and

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process afghan applicants as well .

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We have dispatched small military teams

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to two of the airport's gates to assist

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state the State Department counselor

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efforts as they evaluate and process

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individuals seeking entry and we

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expect to be able to augment that

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capability in the coming days .

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This is truly a team effort across the

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inter agency and throughout all of this

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are U . S . Service members are making

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exceptional efforts under challenging

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circumstances and showing their

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humanity and their compassion . So I

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want to thank them for their skill and

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their professionalism . It's not lost

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on me that even as we conduct this very

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important mission , we also continue to

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help our fellow americans deal with a

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new surge in the pandemic and the

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citizens of Haiti deal with an

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aftermath the aftermath of an

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earthquake . Let me also thank General

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Mackenzie and Rear Admiral vase Lee ,

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who is the commander of US forces

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forward And major general Donahue of

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the 82nd Airborne Division and

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Brigadier General Sullivan for their

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leadership at this critical time . It

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is making an enormous difference . They

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know as I do , that there's a lot of

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work to be done yet . Now all

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of this is very personal for me this is

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a war that I fought in and lead . I

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know the country , I know the people

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and I know those who fought alongside

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me . As I said , we had we have a moral

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obligation to help those who helped us .

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And I feel the urgency deeply .

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So I want to end with the word for the

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force in our military .

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I know that these are difficult days

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for those who lost loved ones in

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Afghanistan and for those who carry the

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wounds of war , especially now

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we mourn those who made the ultimate

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sacrifice in Afghanistan . Let me say

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to their families and loved ones , our

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hearts are with you And the US military

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stands as one to honor those

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we've lost . Now

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Afghan war veterans aren't some

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monolithic . I'm hearing strong views

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from all sides on on this issue and

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that's probably the way that it should

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be . What's important is that each of

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us will work our way through this in

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our own way and we need to respect that

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and we need to give one another the

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time and space to help do it .

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Our greatest asset as a nation is the

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extraordinary men and women who

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volunteer to keep us all safe and their

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families , we honor your service . We

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understand your sacrifice and we will

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never forget it . And so with that I'm

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gonna turn it over to General Milley

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who can talk about where we stand

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operationally . Good afternoon everyone

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and thank you Mr Secretary . What I'd

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like to do is give you an overall

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situation update as of today . And what

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our next steps are currently , the

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United States military is focused on

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the specific mission of conducting a

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noncombatant evacuation operation from

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Afghanistan . This is likely to be

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probably the second largest neo

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conducted by the United States . Our

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key tasks or to establish and maintain

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security at the Kabul International

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airport , defend the airport from

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attack , evacuate all american

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citizens from Afghanistan who desire to

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leave this country , evacuate any third

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country , national or allies and

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partners as designated by the Secretary

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of State , evacuate personnel with

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State Department designated special

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immigrant visas and evacuate any other

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evacuees that the State Department

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designates the president . United

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States made a decision to withdraw US

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forces from Afghanistan on april 14th .

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Since that date , we conducted a

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deliberate and responsible drawdown of

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U . S . Forces to less than 1000 with a

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specific task of securing the U . S .

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Embassy in our diplomatic presence in

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Afghanistan . Since then , the security

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situation rapidly degraded today . The

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situation is still very dangerous ,

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very dynamic and very fluid and all of

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us can be proud of the soldiers ,

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sailors , airmen , marines are

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executing this mission . They are

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currently in harm's way . That needs to

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be our focus . There'll be plenty of

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time to do A . R . S . But right now

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our mission is to secure that airfield ,

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defend that airfield and evacuate all

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those who have been faithful to us .

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There'll be many postmortems on this

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topic . But right now is not that time .

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Right now there are troops at risk and

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we have the United States military and

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we fully intend to successfully

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evacuate all american citizens who want

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to get out of Afghanistan . All

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american citizens who want to get out

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of Afghanistan , They are priority

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number one . In addition , we intend to

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evacuate . Those who've been supporting

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us for years and we're not going to

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leave them behind and we will get out

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as many as possible . Our troops in

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Kabul are taking high risk to

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accomplish that mission . Every minute

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these troops are on the ground making

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difficult decisions with incredible

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skill , incredible bravery and

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incredible valor . Currently , the

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security situation at the airport is

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stable . However , there are threats ,

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were closely monitoring those at any

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moment . They could happen . We can

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identify them if we identify them , we

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will take immediate military action

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without hesitation and according to the

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rules of engagement and the taliban and

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every other organization that country

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knows it . The taliban are in and

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around Kabul right now but they are not

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interfering with our operations through

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the State Department . The taliban are

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facilitating the safe passage to the

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airport for american citizens that is U .

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S . Passport holders . We also have a

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risk . As you saw the other day of

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unarmed innocent civilians massing on

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the airfield became a safety hazard to

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our airplanes or air crews and also to

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themselves . And we currently have that

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situation under control inside the

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airfield . As many other risks out

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there and the troops are dealing with

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those every single day in this volatile

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environment which can and likely will

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change rapidly . Let me make one

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comment on the intelligence because I'm

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seeing all over the news that there are

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warnings of a rapid collapse . I have

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previously said from this podium and in

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sworn testimony before Congress that

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the intelligence clearly indicated

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multiple scenarios were possible . One

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of those was an outright Taliban

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takeover following a rapid collapse of

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the Afghan security forces and the

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government . Another was a civil war

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and a third was a negotiated settlement .

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However , the time frame of a rapid

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collapse that was widely estimated and

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ranged from weeks to months and even

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years following our departure ,

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there was nothing that I or anyone else

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saw That indicated a collapse of this

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army and this government in 11 days ,

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Central Command submitted a variety of

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plans that were briefed and approved by

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the Joint Chiefs of Staff , the

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Secretary Defense and the President .

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These plans are coordinated

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synchronized and rehearsed to deal with

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these various scenarios . One of those

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contingencies is what we are executing

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right now . As I said before , there's

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plenty of time to do a RS and key

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lessons learned and to delve into these

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questions with great detail . But right

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now is not that time . Right now we

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have to focus on this mission because

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we have soldiers at risk And we also

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have American citizens and Afghans who

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supported us for 20 years also at risk .

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This is personal . We're going to get

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them out and we in uniform have a deep

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commitment to this mission . Now let me

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give you an operational update the

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security situation as I said , is

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currently secure at this time and since

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12 august we've deployed 12 or

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correction to the United States marine

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battalions , one Battalion from the

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Minnesota National Guard . All three of

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those were pre positioned in theater

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centcom A . R . As part of the

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contingency planning . In addition to

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that , we alerted Marshall and deployed

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the 82nd Airborne Division headquarters

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and a brigade of the 82nd Airborne

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Division Consisting of three Airborne

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Infantry Battalions and Associated

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Enablers . And finally there was an

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infantry battalion from the 10th

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mountain Division securing the U . S .

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Embassy in Kabul . In addition we are

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operating on the ground with a variety

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of special operations forces that in

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combination with the ground forces . We

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have some of the best soldiers and

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marines the world has ever seen In

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total . There are 20 us maneuver

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companies currently on the ground With

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about 4500 troops and the flow

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continues . The president has

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authorized , as you all know , up to

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6000 on top of them is the United

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States , Navy and Air Force . We have

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multiple squadrons of F eighteens , A V

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eight's , F 16 A C one thirties ,

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B 52 S and M two nines . We have a

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significant amount of rotary wing

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aviation on the ground including attack

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and lift helicopters . In addition , we

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are working with our allies and

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partners . There are british infantry

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rifle companies along with british

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special forces on the ground working

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with us . There's also Turkish security

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force and there are other international

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Special operations forces . This force

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is capable of extracting a significant

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amount of people on U . S . Air Force

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aircraft . Right now we're averaging

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about 20 sorties of C17s Every 24 hours .

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We have the capability to significantly

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increase that throughput as the

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Department of State makes evacuees

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available . As the secretary said ,

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We've already evacuated approximately

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5000 people and we intend to increase

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it . In addition to the military

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airflow , there's a variety of

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commercial and charter flights taking

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out evacuees on behalf of various other

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countries in NGos . The military side

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of the airfield is open and the

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civilian side of the airfield is also

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open and we intend to keep them both

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open for military commercial and

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charter flights . one Caveat on the

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civilian side , however , is that the

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air frames have to come in by visual

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flight rules only and a note um , is

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going out to all the air crews . The

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State Department is working to rapidly

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increase the flow of passengers

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available to get out on the aircraft

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and we are fully supporting them with

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our military personnel at the entrance

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gates and this highly dynamic

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environment , There's a number of

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unexpected challenges that can and

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likely will continue to occur . And we

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rely heavily on a talent , skill and

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training of our troops . We've got

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great people across all the ranks and

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services out there right now on this

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mission . In addition to Afghanistan ,

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which is clearly our main effort ,

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we're also conducting humanitarian

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assistance operations in Haiti In the

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aftermath of a 7.2 mag magnitude

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earthquake with a significant loss of

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life on the West Coast were fighting

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wildfires and we continue to conduct

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covid support and other operations

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around the world . As we reflect on

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these difficult and challenging times .

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Every soldier , sailor , airman ,

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marine coast Guardsman was fought Or

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conducted operation in Afghanistan .

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Almost 800,000 should hold their head

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high For more than 20 years . We have

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prevented an attack on the US homeland .

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2448 lost our lives .

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20722 were wounded in action

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and many others suffered the unseen

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wounds of war to each of them .

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I want you to know personally that your

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service mattered as the secretary said

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for both . He and I this is personal

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and I know it's personal for each and

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every one of you , thank you . Okay ,

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we'll go to questions bob . Thank you

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john I have a question for you two

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gentlemen . If I may Mr Secretary , you

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mentioned the urgency of ramping up the

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face of the evacuation . Uh so you have

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a safe passage agreement with the

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Taliban . But in fact in some cases ,

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american citizens afghans who are at

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risk or who are being advised to go to

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the airport unable to get into the

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airport because of taliban checkpoints

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and so forth . Uh So are you

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considering other ways that you can get

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around that problem by for example ,

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sending forces out beyond the airport

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to collect people and bring them them

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into the airport . If I may ask

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General Milley with the rapid collapse

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of the afghan forces , there's large

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amounts of weaponry that are kind of

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out there now that were either

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surrendered or abandoned by the afghan

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forces or otherwise captured by the

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taliban . Are there ways you can , are

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you considering ways that you might

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destroy some of that equipment uh to

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avoid it falling into the taliban's

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hands ? Thanks bob . In terms of

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whether or not we intend to send forces

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outside of of the airfield to

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collect up american citizens or

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afghans who are special immigrant visa

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applicants . Uh the forces that we have

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are are focused on security of the

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airfield and you know , how important

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that is . And you know , what happens

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uh If we if we lose uh the ability to

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provide that security . Uh and

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so I don't want to detract from that .

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And we have to make sure that we can

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not only secure the airfield , but as

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the chairman said , defend it as well

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because there are a number of threats

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uh still in the in the environment . Uh

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I certainly don't want to do anything

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to make the air feel less safe and and

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we won't do that . But we will continue

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to coordinate deconflict

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with with the taliban and make sure

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that uh those folks , those those

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people that need to get to the airfield

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have the right credentials uh to to

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ensure passage . And and the taliban

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has been checking those credentials and

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if they have them , they have allowed

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them to pass so on the equipment . But

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we obviously have capabilities . But

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I'd prefer not to discuss any

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operations other than what we're doing

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right now in order to get their

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evacuation out and get that complete .

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And then there'll be another time when

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we can discuss future operations , huh ?

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Barb I would like to press both of you

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in the same points . General Milley ,

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you say in your statement that one of

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your tasks is to evacuate all american

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citizens from Afghanistan who desire to

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leave . There are americans clearly all

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over Kabul . There maybe americans in

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other parts of the country . How can

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the U . S . The pentagon live up to

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that task of evacuating all

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americans because we continue to see

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the violence just outside the airport .

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And how would you get them around the

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country unless you go get them ? Well ,

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two things , Barbara one is State

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Department , as you know , as I said ,

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is working with the taliban to

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facilitate safe passage of american

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citizens , U . S . Passport holders to

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the airport . Um and um that's the

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primary means . And under the current

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conditions , uh that's the primary

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effort . We have capability to do other

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things if necessary . Well can I ask

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you what that means ? Because you also

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said there were international special

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forces there that have the capability

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to extract . And those words suggest

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very clearly in the military realm ,

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you would go get people . Well that

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would be a policy decision . And if

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directed we have capabilities that can

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execute whatever were directed her .

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Thank you . And I would draw a

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distinction bar between extracting

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uh someone in an in extremist

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condition or circumstance versus going

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out and collecting up large numbers of

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american citizens . You have the

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capability to go out and collect

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americans . We don't have the

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capability to go out and collect up

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large numbers of people . Bar

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we go ahead for both of you . If I

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could You have 5000

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U . S . Military personnel on the

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ground securing the area ? You have

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small groups potentially taliban

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fighters outside there for holding up

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potentially the second largest neo that

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could be undertaken . You have the

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capability to get there . But how do

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you get those people inside so that

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they can actually get on those planes ?

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And both of you have served in major

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command roles inside Afghanistan ? Did

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you not see the possibility that the

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Afghan security forces were not up to

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this fight ? Um

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We continue to work with with the State

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Department uh officials on the ground

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uh to improve uh the procedures

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uh you know at the entry points to make

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sure that we can speed up the process

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of getting people in and move them

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onward and and so a state is deploying

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more uh consular officers to be able to

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help with that as we stated her as I

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stated earlier , we're going to push

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more military assistance down to the

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entry points to facilitate uh these

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efforts , but We're really working hard

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uh to get as many people through as

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possible . And quite frankly we're not ,

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it's obvious we're not close to where

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we want to be in terms of getting the

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numbers through . So we're gonna work

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that 24 hours a day , seven days a week

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and we're gonna get everyone that we

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can possibly evacuate evacuated and

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I'll do that as long as we possibly can

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until the clock runs out or we run out

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of capability . Uh and also about

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the Afghan security forces ? Did you

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feel that they were ever up to this

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fight ? Or did you not see this coming ,

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that they were not up to the what stood

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behind this podium and said that the

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Afghan security forces had the capacity

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and by that , I mean , they had the

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training , the size , the capability to

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defend their country . This comes down

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to an issue of will and leadership . Um

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and no , I did not . Nor did anyone

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else see a collapse of an army that

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size in 11 days address . Thank you .

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31st . Is the ended at what point does

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the military need to start thinking

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about and carrying out its own

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retrograde to meet that deadline ? And

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secondly , do you believe , or do you

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regret not starting the evacuation of

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bitter or even by a day or two , to get

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ahead of the curve ? So that's a great

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question . At what point do we start

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thinking about having to retrograde our

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own capabilities ? Uh That's uh that's

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actually the point before we put them

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in there . Uh We know that we got to

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have the right mix of capabilities on

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the on the ground . Uh We don't want to

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put uh excessive uh materials

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on the ground that they're not relevant

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to what we're doing . Uh And uh and we

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have to develop a detailed plan uh

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to to uh retrograde our equipment and

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our people and synchronize that plan

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with our efforts to get as many people

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out as fast as we can uh you know with

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the time that we have available so that

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that that work is uh uh it's something

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that we started thinking about very

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early on and that's something that will

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continue to think about and develop

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detailed plans for and regretting not

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starting the evacuation even a few days

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earlier . Who's that for injuries ?

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Either one What ,

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you know , we make plans for a number

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of things and and clearly as chairman

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pointed out , uh we uh as we did

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detailed planning throughout , we

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recognize that there might be a point

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in time when we have to conduct a Neil .

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So we positioned all the all the right

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forces in theatre to be able to do that .

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We put forces on standby in the United

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States to support that . And of course

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uh you know , we we also did uh were in

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support of the of the

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state led S . I . V . Process I .

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Ve applicant process throughout . So in

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terms of you know , doing everything

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that we could as at the at the right

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time , I think I think we have been

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been pretty prudent in terms of

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thinking ahead and planning for

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contingencies and we're executing uh a

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one of those plans right now . Holy

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this question is for both of you and I

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like for both of you to answer . Um It

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seems like I know we keep harping on

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the same thing , but it feels like the

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video is not matching the audio right

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now . If boring , it seems to me like

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barring a lobotomy by the taliban , you

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have three pathways ahead of you . Uh

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One , you can expand the perimeter and

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establish a quarter into kabul to get

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our afghan allies out . Two , you can

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extend the August 31 deadline up

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withdrawing or three . You can just

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leave the tens of thousands of Afghans

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who helped us over the past 20 years

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behind . Which one is it going to be ?

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First of all ? As I said , Helene ,

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we're gonna evacuate everybody that we

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can physically possibly evacuate . And

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we'll conduct these uh

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this process for as long as we possibly

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can , we will continue to deconflict

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issues with with the taliban . And we

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will stay focused on securing uh the

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the airfield . We cannot afford to

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either not defend that airfield or or

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not have an airfield that secure where

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we have hundreds or thousands of

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civilians that can access uh the

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airfield at will and put our forces at

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risk . But that doesn't answer the

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question . I mean , you're still saying

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you're focused on the airfield . These

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people can't get into the airfield .

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Well , we're gonna do everything we can

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to continue to try to deconflict and

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and create uh passage ways for them to

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get to the airfield . I don't have the

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capability to go out and and extend

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operations currently into uh into

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uh Kabul . And where do you take that ?

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I mean , how far can you extend into

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Kabul and uh and how long does it take

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to flow those forces in to be able to

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do that . So it sounds like you're

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saying this depends on diplomacy with

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the taliban . That's it . That's our

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only option is getting them to agree to

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do this . Well let me add something

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here . Helene , we got a couple of uh

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entry control points set up . Um North

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one east one and a third one at Abbey

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Gate . Uh They're currently man with

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consular officers Marines has put this

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all part of the perimeter messages have

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gone out by various means of

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communication from the State Department

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to american citizens and others and

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they're being told to go to those gates

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right now we're processing it about I

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think the last report is about 100 20

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130 an hour , something like that at

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the north , about 343 150 an hour ,

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something like that at the South gate .

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So right now there's a steady flow of

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people um Now as that goes on I think

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those numbers will continue to grow and

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as those messages go out um and I would

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tell you that for the american citizens

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passport holders uh the taliban and the

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State Department working out of

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facility . I got it but they're working

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out a facilitation measures so those

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numbers are likely to grow for the

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others . Uh State Department is still

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working through exactly getting the

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procedures for uh for the evacuees to

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get to the airfield . Well get john

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Defense Secretary Austin . How many US

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taxpayer funded military aircraft have

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been flown out of the country . And

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what are you doing to get those back ?

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We've heard of Afghan pilots taking

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those planes to third countries . And

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General Milley , you talk about the

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intelligence reports and you said there

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wasn't anything suggesting 11 days that

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the Kabul would fall . But you do

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mention there were some reports

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suggesting it could fall apart in weeks

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if so . Why did you abandon the bagram

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airfield ? Why did U . S . Military

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pullout given the uncertainty ?

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Yeah . Good . Uh jen in terms

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of uh

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the aircraft that have been flown out

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that you that you mentioned earlier , I

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have received reports of a number of

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aircraft that were flown into

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Uzbekistan and Tajikistan . Exactly how

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many ? I don't have firm rumbles on in

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terms of what we're doing about them

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currently . Uh Right now jen we're

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focused on the airfield and getting

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people out safely . And so we're going

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to take that issue up at a later date

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and we're going to continue to try to

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gain greater fidelity on the issue as

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well . And I'm your question Barbara

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securing Barbara , you know Big Bar

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Grammys , you've been there many times .

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Security bargain is a is a significant

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level of military effort and forces uh

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And it would also require external

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support from the afghan security forces

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are task given to us that the our task

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was to protect the embassy uh in order

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for the embassy personnel uh to

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continue to function with the council

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service and all that . Uh if we were to

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keep both problem and the embassy going

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uh that would be a significant number

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of military forces That would have

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exceeded what we had or stayed the same

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or exceeded what we had . So I had to

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collapse one of the other . Uh and a

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decision was made . The proposal was

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made from centcom commander the

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commander on the ground scotty miller

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to go ahead and collapse by Graham .

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That was all brief and approved . And

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we estimated that the risk of going out

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of Kailua where the risk of going out

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of bagram about the same . So going to

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college is uh , was estimated to be the

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better tactical solution in accordance

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with the mission set that were given

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and in accordance With getting the

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troops down to about a 600 600 700

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Number . Okay , we got time for two

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more and I haven't got to the phones at

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all . So go to dan them off from

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Washington post . Yes . Thank thank you

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general . Just to follow up on the

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bottom versus hk a question . Each

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car has a single runway with the

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commercial airport making it much more

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difficult to defend that runway . We've

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already seen that this week , bagram

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has two runways . It would have been a

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lot easier to protect people Once

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inside . Is there any thought of

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retaking bagram in order to expedite

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this evacuation ? And if not why not ?

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Thank you . Um I won't do that . Good

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question . Great question . But I'm not

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gonna discuss branches and Sequels off

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of our current operation . I'll just

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leave it at that . Okay . And I think

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the last one for today will go to you

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court General Milley . You keep saying

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that no one expected a collapse of the

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Afghan government and military in 11

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days . But the reality is the Taliban

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offensive began weeks ago . They were

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threatening Kandahar a month ago

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already . So the question is if you

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both think you had such a moral

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obligation to the afghans afghans who

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supported the military and State

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Department For 20 years . Should you

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have pushed harder when the Taliban

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offensive began to get these people out

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and they see us , they may not be in

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this situation that they're in right

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now . And then also if there is this US

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military Taliban deconfliction process

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that's going on right now , Have you

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been asking them to allow the afghans

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through ? And have they as the taliban

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denied that that request ? Is is that

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why there's not some effort the State

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Department put out a embassy put out a

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statement today saying that there was

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us couldn't provide any safe passage

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for these afghans . Is that because the

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taliban won't allow that in his

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deconfliction . There's a uh it's a

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pretty , it's a very dynamic

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environment as you would imagine . And

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of course there there have been things

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that have occurred that uh , that you

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know , we do hear reports of people

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getting turned away from from by

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checkpoints . Uh we've gone back and

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tried to and and reinforced to the

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taliban that if they have credentials ,

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they need to be allow through . And so

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that's working better than it was . And

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and quite frankly , we have uh , you

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know , the major issue right now is

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process processing the people who are

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there uh as as fast as we possibly can .

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Uh it's not a dearth of people , you

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know , getting there . It's just uh

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being able to move the folks that are

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there through . Uh , so that so that we

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can get them on aircraft , but there

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have been some , some unfortunate

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incidents that I've been uh , I've

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learned about and uh , and we continue

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to work to try to deconflict and make

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sure that there is safe passage for the

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people that are trying to get to the

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airport , Have you asked the taliban or

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has the military asked the taliban to

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allow these afghans through ? And

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they've declined . We continue to work

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that yes , we have , we have gone back

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and emphasize that that , that uh

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people who are trying to get to the

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airport and have the have the uh , the

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right credentials need to be allowed

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through right now , the airport

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represents safety to a lot of these

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people . As the taliban are in Kabul ,

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they're worried that the longer they

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wait to get there is a secure airport

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even if it means they wait there

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several days to get on a flight . So

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that's why there's this you know this

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for notices um to get them through .

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And then also if you could also just

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the question of should you have pushed

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harder when it was clear that this

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Taliban offensive was gaining momentum

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a month ago down towards Kandahar and

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other places . Well like I said up

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front there's gonna be plenty of time

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for a ours right now . Focus on the

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mission focused on these people getting

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out american citizens , the S . I . V .

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S , others afghans at risk . Uh there's

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gonna be plenty of time to talk about

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regrets and pushed harder and all these

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other kinds intel assessment etcetera ,

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plenty of time to us right now is not

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the time . Thanks guys , we're gonna

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have to go appreciate your time . Thank

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you so much

