WEBVTT 00:04.540 --> 00:07.470 Alright folks , sorry about the delay . 00:07.480 --> 00:09.850 Uh General kelly , thank you very much 00:09.850 --> 00:12.550 sir . That was outstanding . And folks , 00:12.550 --> 00:14.720 if you do continue to have questions 00:15.740 --> 00:18.410 regarding General kelly's briefing , 00:18.840 --> 00:21.560 please continue to ask . Uh and we'll 00:21.560 --> 00:24.420 get those questions answered . I think 00:24.420 --> 00:27.180 too . The general's point , this will 00:27.180 --> 00:30.720 be pretty amazing memorial . Once it's 00:30.720 --> 00:34.230 all completed at this time , we're 00:34.230 --> 00:36.860 gonna go ahead transition to our next , 00:37.240 --> 00:41.040 our next briefing which is a recorded 00:41.040 --> 00:44.200 message from the honorable lee . So 00:44.210 --> 00:47.580 hook the Republic of Korea 00:47.580 --> 00:50.260 Ambassador to the United States , 00:55.440 --> 00:58.290 I am honored to join you for today's 00:58.290 --> 01:00.840 event . I would like to express my 01:00.840 --> 01:03.630 appreciation and the condolences for 01:03.640 --> 01:06.450 everyone who lost a family member 01:06.940 --> 01:09.520 fighting in the korean war . The 01:09.520 --> 01:12.110 freedom , peace and the prosperity that 01:12.110 --> 01:15.140 the korean people enjoy today rooted 01:15.280 --> 01:17.980 and the sacrifice of the many fallen 01:17.980 --> 01:21.250 heroes who gave their lives all those 01:21.250 --> 01:24.900 years ago . Their sacrifices gave rise 01:24.900 --> 01:27.470 to the korean US alliance which still 01:27.470 --> 01:30.690 continues to thrive . What begins as a 01:30.690 --> 01:33.450 military alliance focused on the korean 01:33.450 --> 01:36.950 peninsula has evolved and grown to 01:36.950 --> 01:38.810 become a comprehensive global 01:38.810 --> 01:41.570 partnership . Our countries now work 01:41.570 --> 01:44.470 together to promote regional security 01:44.480 --> 01:46.980 partner , to secure affections , 01:46.990 --> 01:49.700 undertake a civil space exploration , 01:49.710 --> 01:52.650 improve supply chain efficiency and 01:52.650 --> 01:56.600 fight climate change . Both Korea 01:56.600 --> 01:58.378 and the United States are still 01:58.378 --> 02:01.910 committed and focused to complete our 02:01.920 --> 02:05.590 unfilled during to those who sacrificed 02:05.610 --> 02:08.840 their alliance was built on as the 02:08.840 --> 02:10.673 Minister of national Defense has 02:10.673 --> 02:13.150 emphasized . The government is 02:13.150 --> 02:16.420 responsible for those who dedicated 02:16.420 --> 02:19.210 themselves for the country Until the 02:19.210 --> 02:22.540 end . With that mission in mind , we 02:22.540 --> 02:26.120 will tirelessly to identify and 02:26.120 --> 02:28.750 repatriate remains from the world . 02:29.240 --> 02:31.920 Since June 2000 Korea and the United 02:31.920 --> 02:35.280 States working together have identified 02:35.290 --> 02:38.740 and repatriated over 180 heroes 02:38.740 --> 02:41.840 soldiers back to their families . In 02:41.840 --> 02:44.450 addition , we have found over 400 02:44.840 --> 02:48.070 remains that arrow had rich inside the 02:48.070 --> 02:50.920 DNC and they're walking on identifying 02:50.920 --> 02:54.910 them . We have also begun preparation 02:54.910 --> 02:58.660 to recover remains At five horse reach . 02:59.340 --> 03:02.520 The government's commitment to find and 03:02.520 --> 03:04.720 identify the remains of missing 03:04.730 --> 03:08.330 american soldiers comes straight from 03:08.330 --> 03:11.150 President Moon Jae in during his visit 03:11.150 --> 03:13.390 to Washington D . C . In May . His 03:13.390 --> 03:15.470 first stop was an international 03:15.470 --> 03:18.960 cemetery to pay his respects at the 03:18.960 --> 03:22.360 tomb of the unknown soldiers and in 03:22.360 --> 03:25.950 june while visiting Mercury is 03:25.950 --> 03:29.800 stated that we must do our best until 03:29.800 --> 03:33.110 the very last unfound veteran returns 03:33.120 --> 03:36.150 to the arms of their family members . 03:36.540 --> 03:39.890 Our successful excavation efforts are 03:39.890 --> 03:42.310 due to the dedication of the many 03:42.320 --> 03:45.650 unsung heroes working to find and I 03:45.650 --> 03:47.820 didn't find them . I would like to 03:47.820 --> 03:51.420 thank how the director of Mercury 03:51.430 --> 03:55.190 mr kelly , making the 03:55.190 --> 03:57.970 director of the D . P . A . And both of 03:57.970 --> 04:01.050 their teams . We would not have come 04:01.500 --> 04:04.050 this far without their hard work and 04:04.060 --> 04:07.340 dedication the task . The 04:07.350 --> 04:10.450 unprecedented the pandemic has delayed 04:10.460 --> 04:13.310 the recovery of many remains . But the 04:13.310 --> 04:16.090 korean government will continue our 04:16.090 --> 04:18.970 responsibility to excavate , 04:18.980 --> 04:22.270 identify and repatriate the remains 04:22.280 --> 04:25.530 of the korean war heels . Thank you 04:25.530 --> 04:28.760 again for joining us today and 04:29.440 --> 04:32.540 please accept my sincere appreciation 04:32.540 --> 04:35.390 and condolences on behalf of the korean 04:35.390 --> 04:39.060 government for your family's sacrifices . 04:39.540 --> 04:40.762 Thank you very much . 04:54.940 --> 04:58.190 I'm the next video will be 04:59.140 --> 05:01.450 a message of thanks from the 05:02.440 --> 05:04.690 honorable honky 05:06.840 --> 05:08.880 minister of Patriots and Veterans 05:08.880 --> 05:10.650 Affairs , Republic of Korea . 05:11.540 --> 05:15.450 Proceeding immediately after this , Mr 05:15.450 --> 05:17.672 McKay is gonna come up and make a quick 05:17.672 --> 05:19.728 presentation and then we're going to 05:19.728 --> 05:23.720 transition to a recorded briefing from 05:23.720 --> 05:27.600 mr James Muskegon uh , korean war 05:27.600 --> 05:30.130 veteran and author . And then we'll 05:30.130 --> 05:32.410 wrap up our recorded videos with a 05:32.410 --> 05:36.260 korean and Cold War air loss video uh 05:36.640 --> 05:39.430 briefing given by Mr dan Balkman who is 05:39.430 --> 05:42.780 the chief Northeast asia section , indo 05:42.780 --> 05:46.070 pacific directorate D . P . A . So at 05:46.070 --> 05:48.181 this time let's go ahead and play the 05:48.181 --> 05:52.040 Mp V . A video please . Their 05:52.040 --> 05:54.650 families of american service members 05:54.660 --> 05:57.440 who are missing in action . Prime 05:57.440 --> 05:59.350 Minister of Patriot and veterans 05:59.350 --> 06:03.250 appears hanging in Korea Perth . 06:03.910 --> 06:06.710 And the problem most on the help of the 06:06.710 --> 06:09.710 korean government . I express my utmost 06:09.710 --> 06:13.480 respect to american service members who 06:13.490 --> 06:17.290 were killed . We sing in action or 06:17.300 --> 06:19.850 held captive in order to protect the 06:19.850 --> 06:23.420 korean . I would like to extend my 06:23.420 --> 06:27.140 sincere condolence to the families who 06:27.330 --> 06:30.480 lost the love of the wound and have 06:30.480 --> 06:34.210 missed them for many years . I also 06:34.210 --> 06:37.050 want to thanks official from the 06:37.060 --> 06:40.890 depends pigeon of world missing in 06:40.900 --> 06:44.450 action . Accounting agents 06:45.240 --> 06:48.910 within the department of depends 06:48.920 --> 06:52.440 who worked had to organize today's 06:52.450 --> 06:55.420 meaningful event and the distinguished 06:55.430 --> 06:59.220 guests who were with us . He 06:59.230 --> 07:02.560 believed family members , you are 07:02.560 --> 07:05.940 families who put for every in korean 07:05.940 --> 07:09.760 world heroes for the 07:09.760 --> 07:13.440 Republic of Korea and they have pillows 07:13.450 --> 07:16.650 for korean people's the Republic of 07:16.650 --> 07:20.060 Korea has not forgotten . Did 07:20.540 --> 07:23.970 the blood shed by the heroes who 07:23.970 --> 07:27.140 wrapped home without families and the 07:27.140 --> 07:30.960 ports in the country apart from 07:30.970 --> 07:34.550 Home Grade Foundation for 07:34.550 --> 07:38.360 today's cross cross nation . And we 07:38.360 --> 07:41.570 also remember your tears and they 07:41.570 --> 07:45.370 cannot freedom . How much you 07:45.370 --> 07:48.900 missed your families . Korea has 07:48.900 --> 07:52.050 risen from the issues of the world 07:52.720 --> 07:56.590 and achieved the miraculous development 07:56.600 --> 08:00.330 for today's economy and 08:00.340 --> 08:03.660 now we are depending and expanding 08:03.660 --> 08:07.270 humanity's universal values of freedom 08:07.280 --> 08:08.660 and the democrats 08:10.740 --> 08:14.170 proving that the hero's sacrifice . I 08:14.180 --> 08:17.360 was never in vain . I believe 08:18.240 --> 08:21.560 that permanent peace on the korean 08:21.560 --> 08:25.490 peninsula truth wage of 08:25.490 --> 08:29.230 repaying the world veterans for their 08:29.230 --> 08:32.050 sacrifice and contribution . 08:33.140 --> 08:35.470 The government of the Republic of Korea 08:35.480 --> 08:38.560 will make every effort to strengthen 08:39.120 --> 08:42.950 the lock us lions that has approached 08:43.380 --> 08:47.050 implode So that peace will be firmly 08:47.050 --> 08:50.850 established on this land at 08:50.850 --> 08:54.360 this time . We will do our best to make 08:54.360 --> 08:58.260 sure every last one of the veterans 08:58.740 --> 09:02.160 who have not . They turned to come home . 09:02.840 --> 09:06.400 In addition , I promise that our 09:06.400 --> 09:09.700 Children remembers and inherited the 09:09.700 --> 09:12.350 novel speech and humanitarianism . 09:13.140 --> 09:16.820 Those veterans who named you will own 09:16.820 --> 09:20.750 the world of remembrance that we had 09:21.140 --> 09:24.890 groundbreaking ceremony here in the 09:24.890 --> 09:27.870 korean war memorial in Washington 09:27.870 --> 09:31.060 tissue in May with the president Moon 09:31.060 --> 09:33.860 Jae in of the Republic of Korea . 09:34.840 --> 09:38.430 Although I speak to you 09:38.440 --> 09:41.750 online today , I invited you to 09:41.750 --> 09:45.740 Korea with you and express my 09:45.740 --> 09:48.950 appreciation and conference in person . 09:49.460 --> 09:53.010 As soon as COVID-19 situation is 09:53.020 --> 09:56.590 stabilized . Once again I express my 09:56.600 --> 09:59.430 deepest sympathy to the families of 09:59.440 --> 10:02.600 american service members who are 10:02.600 --> 10:06.470 missing in action and hope that 10:06.480 --> 10:09.650 today lunch will be relieved 10:10.340 --> 10:13.360 some of your a pain and the grip 10:14.640 --> 10:18.490 I wish you could help until you meet 10:18.730 --> 10:22.380 and please enjoy your lunch . Thank you 10:22.380 --> 10:23.160 so much . 10:34.140 --> 10:35.973 Ladies and gentlemen , I had the 10:35.973 --> 10:38.360 privilege of meeting Mr wang when he 10:38.360 --> 10:40.471 and President Moon were at the korean 10:40.471 --> 10:43.830 war Veterans Memorial in May to present 10:43.840 --> 10:46.090 another Republic of Korea . Check to 10:46.090 --> 10:49.560 general kelly and the foundation to 10:49.560 --> 10:52.180 build the wall of remembrance . You all 10:52.180 --> 10:54.390 are very familiar with the incredible 10:54.390 --> 10:56.480 generosity of the national mutual 10:56.480 --> 10:59.130 security and defense . Whether it's 11:00.240 --> 11:03.650 paying for your re visit to Korea . 11:04.640 --> 11:07.210 You remember the gala dinners that they 11:07.220 --> 11:10.370 sponsored and paid for when we met last 11:10.370 --> 11:14.170 met during the Korea Cold War Annual 11:14.170 --> 11:16.720 government briefings in 2019 and years 11:16.720 --> 11:19.460 before the lunch he referred to 11:19.460 --> 11:22.150 unfortunately was a victim of covid as 11:22.150 --> 11:25.190 you well know , the minister videotaped 11:25.190 --> 11:28.350 this message in advance of our decision 11:28.350 --> 11:31.800 to switch to a virtual conference . 11:33.740 --> 11:35.796 I think this is significant which is 11:35.796 --> 11:37.962 why I'd like to share it with you . We 11:37.962 --> 11:41.110 just received 550 of these 11:41.110 --> 11:43.370 postcards from the Ministry of Patriot 11:43.370 --> 11:45.270 Veterans Affairs which we will be 11:45.270 --> 11:47.520 sending out to all who registered for 11:47.520 --> 11:51.120 the Korea Cold War briefings on the 11:51.120 --> 11:54.150 postcard is a handwritten letter 11:54.940 --> 11:58.490 from a Republic of Korea student . I'd 11:58.490 --> 12:01.160 like to read to you an example of this . 12:02.340 --> 12:05.580 My name is jay hye shin and I am third 12:05.590 --> 12:07.900 at my young high school , Republic of 12:07.900 --> 12:11.140 Korea . As I am writing this to you , I 12:11.140 --> 12:13.750 have only learned the korean war from 12:13.750 --> 12:17.350 history . I can't even imagine what the 12:17.350 --> 12:19.660 suffering would have been at the time . 12:20.340 --> 12:22.430 But the reason I was able to live in 12:22.430 --> 12:25.500 the Republic of Korea today is because 12:25.500 --> 12:27.600 of the dedication of you and your 12:27.600 --> 12:30.350 colleagues . I will never forget to be 12:30.350 --> 12:32.960 grateful . It is an honor to be able to 12:32.960 --> 12:35.830 say thank you to you , God bless you 12:35.830 --> 12:38.570 and your family . And at the top of the 12:38.570 --> 12:41.830 postcard it reads , we remember you who 12:41.830 --> 12:44.750 gave us our present . So each of you 12:44.750 --> 12:46.750 that registered for this conference 12:46.750 --> 12:49.540 will receive this from us again , a 12:49.540 --> 12:52.310 small gesture , but one that speaks to 12:52.310 --> 12:55.350 the incredible generosity appreciation 12:55.740 --> 12:59.180 of the republic of Korea to you and 12:59.180 --> 13:00.960 your loved ones . I thought , 13:29.940 --> 13:31.940 alright folks , so what we're doing 13:31.940 --> 13:33.940 right now is uh we're having just a 13:33.940 --> 13:36.107 little bit of a technical issue with a 13:36.107 --> 13:39.460 video . Our next briefer , Mr James 13:39.470 --> 13:43.280 McEachin , a korean war veteran and 13:43.280 --> 13:46.910 author . We're working to get his video 13:46.920 --> 13:49.290 to pull up at this point and I will 13:49.290 --> 13:52.730 tell you the title is voices . Uh and I 13:52.730 --> 13:54.790 got to listen to it earlier this 13:54.790 --> 13:57.200 morning and it's a pretty powerful 13:57.200 --> 13:59.560 message . Uh and I think you'll enjoy 13:59.560 --> 14:01.504 it . So ralph , how close are we ? 14:06.800 --> 14:10.420 So please just bear with us for a 14:10.420 --> 14:11.420 minute . 14:14.240 --> 14:18.020 So here's a Korean war veteran . uh Mr 14:18.020 --> 14:20.660 McEachin believe he was born in 1930 , 14:21.040 --> 14:23.760 So he's a young man of 91 years old . 14:23.770 --> 14:27.630 Uh my dad's 92 . So uh sir , 14:27.630 --> 14:30.240 thank you for your service if you're if 14:30.240 --> 14:32.360 you're tuned in today , 14:34.340 --> 14:38.070 but mr McCutchen , like I say , an 14:38.070 --> 14:41.180 author and a pretty powerful message . 14:41.190 --> 14:43.246 Uh so hopefully we'll be able to get 14:43.246 --> 14:44.360 this video up 14:51.840 --> 14:54.062 and folks to the foundation back to the 14:54.062 --> 14:56.770 foundation . Uh So there were a number 14:56.770 --> 14:58.826 of questions that have been asked in 14:58.826 --> 15:00.770 the chatroom reference next year's 15:00.770 --> 15:03.810 korean Cold War . So we are looking at 15:03.810 --> 15:07.560 the time frame of when the um the 15:07.560 --> 15:10.210 unveiling for the memorial will be and 15:10.210 --> 15:13.150 and more to follow on that one as we 15:13.150 --> 15:15.372 continue to move forward . So I'm being 15:15.372 --> 15:17.594 given the thumbs up so at this point in 15:17.594 --> 15:19.706 time we'll turn it over for the video 15:19.706 --> 15:19.660 from Mr McCutchen . 15:36.440 --> 15:39.360 Mhm . God . 15:41.140 --> 15:42.950 All right . Mhm . 15:45.640 --> 15:46.450 Oh man ! 15:51.540 --> 15:54.980 Oh no ! Right 15:54.980 --> 15:58.860 there , hose . 16:00.140 --> 16:01.660 So unforgiving 16:03.040 --> 16:06.050 nightmares . Oh Lord , 16:07.550 --> 16:10.980 please praise 16:14.340 --> 16:15.710 wow ! Yeah , 16:20.240 --> 16:21.240 mm hmm . 16:24.840 --> 16:28.470 Oh my goodness 16:29.050 --> 16:32.110 soldiers 10 16:34.940 --> 16:35.860 ha ha ha ! 16:42.940 --> 16:46.360 She loves straighten up there soldier 16:47.340 --> 16:48.960 touch hut . 16:52.740 --> 16:56.070 Oh my boy , my boy , my boy , 16:58.340 --> 17:02.070 that's damage the regiment . Oh my God ! 17:04.340 --> 17:05.340 Yeah . 17:08.440 --> 17:11.000 Speech we're gonna get to that . We're 17:11.000 --> 17:13.300 gonna get to the speech . Well you see 17:13.300 --> 17:16.260 these nightmares they just they just 17:16.260 --> 17:18.860 keep having aware why God 17:20.140 --> 17:23.770 Oh boy voices . 17:25.430 --> 17:27.560 That's what the D . O . D . 17:29.340 --> 17:32.960 DP double A . And everybody 17:33.440 --> 17:36.880 who has an attachment to the missing or 17:36.880 --> 17:39.450 has anything to do with the P . O . W . 17:39.450 --> 17:43.290 S . And the M . I . A . S . That's what 17:43.290 --> 17:46.270 they're coming here for your views . 17:47.340 --> 17:49.550 You've been there , old soldier . The 17:49.550 --> 17:52.990 pandemic will not stop them from coming 17:52.990 --> 17:55.690 here and neither will anything else . 17:56.540 --> 17:58.820 They're coming here because hard to 17:58.820 --> 18:00.770 hear closure can be found here . 18:02.440 --> 18:04.510 They're gonna want to know how to 18:04.510 --> 18:07.170 survive until closure asserts itself . 18:08.440 --> 18:11.960 How an old vet , 91 years old and one 18:11.960 --> 18:14.850 who near got killed fighting in that 18:14.850 --> 18:16.960 bloody war , way back there in Korea 18:17.740 --> 18:21.370 and it was miraculously saved by an 18:21.380 --> 18:24.560 unknown blond haired boy who risked his 18:24.560 --> 18:28.390 life to save mine . That's allowing 18:28.390 --> 18:31.360 me to go on to live a most 18:31.740 --> 18:35.460 incredible life all for this 18:35.460 --> 18:39.360 moment . And now the speech 18:40.940 --> 18:44.350 voices taken from a piece I delivered 18:44.350 --> 18:48.060 in a church a few years ago . It was 18:48.070 --> 18:51.790 for a young soldier who left his 18:51.790 --> 18:54.200 home And basically , Okay , I'll find 18:54.200 --> 18:57.590 him in one morning and his remains dead 18:57.590 --> 19:01.170 returned for over 60 years . 19:03.240 --> 19:05.410 I spoke to members of the family after 19:05.410 --> 19:06.210 services , 19:09.340 --> 19:13.150 but they finally found closure one a 19:13.150 --> 19:16.670 day . Yours will do the same 19:17.640 --> 19:21.370 days ah of remembrance 19:21.370 --> 19:25.180 is fast . Mm hmm . I 19:25.180 --> 19:28.770 have borne in mind that last 19:28.780 --> 19:30.220 full measure 19:34.920 --> 19:37.253 from shadow playing from far away roads . 19:37.253 --> 19:40.680 I have looked off and I have seen the 19:40.680 --> 19:42.930 symmetrical obedience of numberless 19:42.930 --> 19:46.660 headstones that stand like dwarfed 19:46.660 --> 19:48.560 centuries for the honored dead . 19:50.840 --> 19:52.980 I've often thought about those buried 19:52.980 --> 19:56.820 at sea . I have thought two of those in 19:56.820 --> 20:00.190 terror and graves around the globe . 20:00.190 --> 20:03.640 The number in the thousands , the 20:03.640 --> 20:06.610 number in the thousands that I can hear . 20:06.610 --> 20:09.670 I do believe voices calling out to me . 20:11.540 --> 20:13.920 They're saying to each and every one of 20:13.920 --> 20:17.170 us , I want to come home . 20:19.440 --> 20:21.360 I want to come home . 20:22.740 --> 20:25.750 Oh , I say to you Mr and mrs America . 20:25.750 --> 20:27.861 I say to your sons , your daughters , 20:27.861 --> 20:30.028 your young , your own , you're rich or 20:30.028 --> 20:32.194 poor . I say to all who are privileged 20:32.194 --> 20:34.417 to be within these borders . One cannot 20:34.417 --> 20:36.639 help but be touched by the price of our 20:36.639 --> 20:38.694 liberty to be humbled by graves that 20:38.694 --> 20:40.850 stretch from coast to coast 20:43.040 --> 20:45.207 on this day of tribute and remembrance 20:45.207 --> 20:47.480 lower day back by the trembling winds 20:47.480 --> 20:50.980 and yet another war strident voices of 20:50.980 --> 20:53.091 doubt and dissent have pushed me to a 20:53.091 --> 20:56.580 place beyond the side of grace and I 20:56.590 --> 20:59.240 find myself now moving along stark 20:59.250 --> 21:01.730 sobering corridors dedicated to the 21:01.730 --> 21:03.860 living who has sacrificed much for 21:03.860 --> 21:07.860 democracy's cause . I find 21:07.860 --> 21:11.760 myself in a hospice 21:13.240 --> 21:17.170 for the american veteran . Here 21:17.170 --> 21:20.320 I am swept amid remnants of wars old , 21:20.330 --> 21:23.900 the new , the sorrowing consequence of 21:23.900 --> 21:26.140 battle . All too evident . I pray , Oh 21:26.140 --> 21:28.410 how I pray I pray that they will never 21:28.410 --> 21:32.030 again be this need for war . 21:32.040 --> 21:34.960 But if in the final hour of war we lost , 21:35.440 --> 21:37.607 let it be for the principles for which 21:37.607 --> 21:39.718 our forefathers stood for the freedom 21:39.718 --> 21:42.460 for which this God anointed nation has 21:42.460 --> 21:46.170 been ordained to stand and then we're 21:46.170 --> 21:48.620 in observance of the toll of war or 21:48.620 --> 21:50.787 whether in ceremony of the great gifts 21:50.787 --> 21:53.540 of freedom . It is to those strident 21:53.540 --> 21:55.970 voices of doubt and dissent to whom I 21:55.970 --> 21:58.970 shall first look and I will pray to my 21:58.970 --> 22:02.370 God that we come together that we 22:02.370 --> 22:05.360 unite as one as the americans we are . 22:06.140 --> 22:08.700 And over and over and over and over and 22:08.700 --> 22:11.250 over and over and over again . We give 22:11.260 --> 22:12.982 thanks to the american veteran 22:12.982 --> 22:16.160 defenders of sit with me , 22:16.740 --> 22:19.770 say it with me , defenders of 22:19.940 --> 22:23.600 freedom and holding 22:23.600 --> 22:26.500 dear the memory of the dead and the 22:26.500 --> 22:29.370 unaccounted for . I shall further pray 22:29.370 --> 22:31.820 that none among us forget those who 22:31.820 --> 22:34.050 might see here in this place and then 22:34.050 --> 22:36.272 walks in the hospitals in the country , 22:36.272 --> 22:39.450 over those who once stood tall for 22:39.450 --> 22:42.730 democracy , for the precious right to 22:42.730 --> 22:45.230 assemble freely but are now moving and 22:45.230 --> 22:48.740 firmly . Oh and without grace down the 22:48.740 --> 22:52.740 long long corridors of duty of 22:54.940 --> 22:58.160 of gallantry going their separate ways 22:58.170 --> 23:02.120 silent , I say solid days and 23:02.120 --> 23:04.320 sacrifice yet ever and ever in a 23:04.320 --> 23:06.376 special kind of way . They are still 23:06.376 --> 23:10.170 giving their all to say to us all , no 23:10.170 --> 23:13.530 veterans , no democracy , no 23:13.530 --> 23:17.350 democracy , no America . And 23:17.350 --> 23:21.060 let's all remember to always stand 23:21.320 --> 23:24.850 for the flag , it's always kneel . 23:26.040 --> 23:26.960 But across 23:58.740 --> 24:01.970 yeah , welcome to the korean Cold War 24:01.970 --> 24:04.350 air loss briefing . I'm dan Balkman 24:04.350 --> 24:07.550 defense pOW MIA accounting agency . 24:10.040 --> 24:12.207 We got some feedback from the families 24:12.207 --> 24:14.318 after the last Korea Cold War meeting 24:14.318 --> 24:16.630 that we cover more information on air 24:16.630 --> 24:19.060 losses . So that's we're gonna do today . 24:19.640 --> 24:21.807 I'm gonna cover an overview of the air 24:21.807 --> 24:23.880 losses from the korean war , discuss 24:23.880 --> 24:25.936 the korean war . Air campaigns , the 24:25.936 --> 24:28.269 enemy capabilities that were against us . 24:28.269 --> 24:30.213 And then talk about pursuit of the 24:30.213 --> 24:32.269 cases . I'm also going to talk about 24:32.269 --> 24:34.970 Cold War losses of our 24:34.970 --> 24:38.450 7555 total unaccounted for 24:38.940 --> 24:42.480 Serviceman from the Korean War 1228 . 24:42.490 --> 24:44.790 Our aviators and these are the numbers 24:44.790 --> 24:48.390 by service . Most of the losses 24:48.390 --> 24:50.612 occurred over north Korea . And you can 24:50.612 --> 24:52.779 see in the density and losses there on 24:52.779 --> 24:55.330 the west coast and also a large density 24:55.340 --> 24:57.840 on the east coast which correspond to 24:57.840 --> 24:59.900 the ports cities of one person and 24:59.900 --> 25:03.310 hyung nam since north Korea as a , 25:03.800 --> 25:06.460 as a denied area , uh we can't get 25:06.460 --> 25:08.571 access to the air losses . That's the 25:08.571 --> 25:10.738 reason why we have such low resolution 25:10.738 --> 25:14.250 rate on cases . For air cases , Most of 25:14.250 --> 25:16.306 South Korea losses occurred close to 25:16.306 --> 25:18.472 the outpost line on what is now called 25:18.472 --> 25:20.583 the demilitarized zone and that's the 25:20.583 --> 25:22.583 area that separates north and South 25:22.583 --> 25:25.010 Korea . Today there was about 50 total 25:25.010 --> 25:28.100 in South Korea . I want to talk a few 25:28.100 --> 25:31.040 minutes about air campaigns from the 25:31.040 --> 25:33.096 first days of the war , the Far East 25:33.096 --> 25:35.262 Command and the headquarters Air Force 25:35.262 --> 25:37.484 devised a plan to cripple north Korea's 25:37.484 --> 25:40.350 ability to wage war and their allies 25:40.350 --> 25:42.560 ability to resupply the North Koreans 25:43.240 --> 25:46.460 Using mostly the B- 29 bomber . The Air 25:46.460 --> 25:48.650 Force targeted the Yellow river dams 25:48.650 --> 25:51.270 for power generation , the railyards , 25:51.680 --> 25:54.040 the yellow river bridges , major 25:54.040 --> 25:55.820 airfields and military training 25:55.820 --> 25:59.670 facilities . Targets also included 25:59.680 --> 26:01.902 military headquarters in Pyongyang . So 26:01.902 --> 26:04.069 you can see the photo there of Central 26:04.069 --> 26:06.770 Pyongyang , which was in 1953 . 26:08.040 --> 26:10.370 That effort also included the subtask 26:10.380 --> 26:13.900 of air conducting and achieving air 26:13.900 --> 26:16.390 superiority . And we were able to do 26:16.390 --> 26:18.557 that throughout the peninsula with the 26:18.557 --> 26:20.557 exception of some days in northwest 26:20.557 --> 26:22.612 north Korea and I'll talk more about 26:22.612 --> 26:24.970 that in a moment for every day of clear 26:24.970 --> 26:26.637 weather , including overnight 26:26.637 --> 26:28.860 operations . The 5th Air Force and 26:28.860 --> 26:31.730 Carrier Task Force 77 , which is marine 26:31.730 --> 26:34.770 and air aviation assets conducted air 26:34.770 --> 26:37.270 interdiction of supply roads coming 26:37.500 --> 26:40.630 over land from china . The low flying B 26:40.630 --> 26:43.650 20 sixes , F 50 one's and F four's . Uh 26:43.660 --> 26:45.660 They were the players in this along 26:45.660 --> 26:49.150 with 84 aircraft aircraft and 26:49.160 --> 26:52.870 uh F four corsairs . We also had F- 26:52.870 --> 26:55.100 80s and F- 84's have participated in 26:55.100 --> 26:58.460 this effort . The road and rail routes 26:58.530 --> 27:02.430 each were Annotated with a number and a 27:02.430 --> 27:04.652 color and you can see those annotations 27:04.652 --> 27:07.420 there on the map . So when when crews 27:07.420 --> 27:09.642 left , they were given the numbers like 27:09.642 --> 27:11.720 Green seven , purple three and they 27:11.720 --> 27:14.330 knew exactly which routes to conduct 27:14.340 --> 27:17.660 attacks on , on enemy trucks and that 27:17.660 --> 27:21.520 sort of thing . Uh The Far East 27:21.520 --> 27:23.687 Command also divided the country right 27:23.687 --> 27:26.120 down the middle and the Fifth Air Force 27:26.120 --> 27:28.250 had the Westside targets and the 27:28.260 --> 27:30.560 carrier Task group 77 had the East Side 27:30.560 --> 27:33.730 targets so we could differentiate the 27:33.740 --> 27:37.150 battle space . Now , combat units on 27:37.150 --> 27:39.730 the ground . Uh They were equipped with 27:39.740 --> 27:41.810 air liaison teams from the Air Force 27:41.810 --> 27:43.643 and Marine Corps . And those air 27:43.643 --> 27:46.110 liaison teams were connected to by 27:46.110 --> 27:49.500 radio to spotter planes and two 27:49.510 --> 27:52.750 fighter ground attack aircraft . And 27:52.760 --> 27:55.910 those aircraft supplied close air 27:55.910 --> 27:57.854 support for the front line units , 27:57.854 --> 27:59.670 which is extremely important in 27:59.670 --> 28:02.830 listening casualties on our side and 28:02.830 --> 28:04.886 creating the most havoc on the other 28:04.886 --> 28:06.886 side and they were very effective . 28:08.440 --> 28:10.607 Incidentally , this was an all service 28:10.607 --> 28:13.180 effort . So we also had support in the 28:13.180 --> 28:15.930 close air support effort from the 28:15.940 --> 28:18.140 Republic of Korea Air Force and the 28:18.140 --> 28:20.810 commonwealth Air forces . Our high 28:20.810 --> 28:22.920 casualty rates among aviators can be 28:22.920 --> 28:24.920 attributed to the enemy air defense 28:24.920 --> 28:27.460 systems . The Soviets , the chinese and 28:27.460 --> 28:29.404 the north Koreans all had aviation 28:29.404 --> 28:33.210 assets . The Soviets rotated in 14 air 28:33.210 --> 28:35.960 divisions , which is about 300 aircraft 28:36.030 --> 28:38.410 available at any one time on the 28:38.410 --> 28:41.470 peninsula . We start seeing migs in 28:41.470 --> 28:44.280 November of 1950 , They balanced a 28:44.280 --> 28:46.650 flight of F- 51s that was operating on 28:46.650 --> 28:49.390 the North Korean West Coast Line . That 28:49.390 --> 28:51.500 came as a surprise to the Far East 28:51.500 --> 28:54.110 Command . Now Washington knew a little 28:54.110 --> 28:55.999 bit about the MIG 15 since we had 28:55.999 --> 28:58.520 photos of it from takeoffs and landings 28:58.520 --> 29:00.742 in east Germany and we actually had the 29:00.742 --> 29:03.280 metallurgy uh , that used on the 29:03.280 --> 29:06.430 aircraft metallurgy samples . We got 29:06.430 --> 29:10.310 those back in 1948 And we had air 29:10.310 --> 29:12.421 superiority over the peninsula except 29:12.421 --> 29:14.532 for Mig Alley on most days . And that 29:14.532 --> 29:17.070 was due to the MiG 15 . The Soviets 29:17.070 --> 29:19.840 also had 85 millimeter guns which could 29:19.840 --> 29:23.070 range the altitude of the B 29 29:23.070 --> 29:25.910 bombers . And then the chinese and 29:25.920 --> 29:29.000 north Koreans had the lower range 29:29.000 --> 29:31.600 caliber systems that could hit our low 29:31.600 --> 29:32.270 flyers . 29:35.340 --> 29:37.451 And that meant that the North Koreans 29:37.451 --> 29:39.790 pretty much in Chinese and the Soviets 29:39.790 --> 29:42.012 could hit anything that was coming over 29:42.012 --> 29:44.234 their airspace . They were augmented by 29:44.234 --> 29:47.870 6000 air scouts that monitor the 29:47.870 --> 29:50.030 airways from the chinese and north 29:50.030 --> 29:52.790 korean borders , which means they knew 29:52.790 --> 29:55.420 whenever we were coming over the their 29:55.420 --> 29:59.250 airspace . All right , let me talk 29:59.250 --> 30:01.417 about accounting for air losses . That 30:01.417 --> 30:04.250 all starts with research . Our 30:04.250 --> 30:06.620 government requires federal records to 30:06.620 --> 30:08.453 be retired after 50 years to the 30:08.453 --> 30:11.960 National Archives . Unit records from 30:11.960 --> 30:14.071 Korea are at the National Archives at 30:14.071 --> 30:15.904 College Park , which is about 40 30:15.904 --> 30:19.180 minutes just north and and east from 30:19.180 --> 30:21.450 our headquarters in Crystal City . 30:22.930 --> 30:25.041 The the air Union histories are there 30:25.041 --> 30:26.930 at the National Archives and they 30:26.930 --> 30:30.240 described ah , what days happened where 30:30.240 --> 30:32.296 there were battle actions over North 30:32.296 --> 30:35.420 Korea and bombing and so on and their 30:35.420 --> 30:38.820 superiority efforts And they they were 30:38.820 --> 30:41.070 chronology of the planes that were lost 30:41.080 --> 30:44.760 in the locations . Also . Ah there is 30:44.760 --> 30:47.070 an air search case for every case as 30:47.070 --> 30:49.350 well . In the air search case covers 30:49.350 --> 30:51.530 the same data only . It also has 30:51.530 --> 30:53.586 witness statements and those witness 30:53.586 --> 30:55.980 statements tell us uh what the planes 30:55.980 --> 30:58.202 were doing when they were shot down and 30:58.202 --> 31:00.369 they give us a better glimpse of where 31:00.369 --> 31:04.270 the plane got shot down at . And then 31:04.270 --> 31:06.530 there's also the Foreign archives . So 31:06.530 --> 31:09.200 since 1997 our Joint Commission Support 31:09.200 --> 31:11.890 directorate has had access to the 31:11.900 --> 31:13.956 Russian air defense records from the 31:13.956 --> 31:16.630 korean war at the archive called 31:16.630 --> 31:19.730 Podolsk outside of Moscow There they 31:19.730 --> 31:21.674 have air unit reports that include 31:21.674 --> 31:23.674 shoot down records in Mig Alley and 31:23.674 --> 31:25.730 they and the dating type of aircraft 31:25.730 --> 31:29.170 shot down . The Soviets also had uh 31:30.040 --> 31:32.207 jeep crews that were patrolling around 31:32.207 --> 31:34.429 North Korea looking for crash sites and 31:34.429 --> 31:36.429 when they found the crash site they 31:36.429 --> 31:38.429 diagrammed it with drawings for the 31:38.429 --> 31:40.318 type of aircraft shot down in any 31:40.318 --> 31:42.429 artifacts now were procured from it . 31:42.740 --> 31:45.320 Uh Those kind of drawings you can see 31:45.320 --> 31:48.560 in the upper right there of the slide . 31:49.450 --> 31:51.850 There's a handful of those drawings 31:51.860 --> 31:53.916 that would enable us to go back into 31:53.916 --> 31:56.260 North Korea accurately and conducting 31:56.260 --> 31:58.482 air recovery should be able to get back 31:58.482 --> 32:01.660 into North Korea . Uh finally that the 32:01.670 --> 32:04.100 the air records in Russia gave us 32:04.100 --> 32:06.770 information on 300 of our air lost 32:06.770 --> 32:09.620 cases . We also have an arrangement 32:09.620 --> 32:11.740 with the Chinese , with the Chinese 32:11.750 --> 32:13.900 people's liberation army archivists . 32:13.910 --> 32:16.360 We've had that arrangement since 2008 . 32:16.740 --> 32:18.684 And in that they will look through 32:18.684 --> 32:20.940 their archives , which are the central 32:20.940 --> 32:22.884 archives are in Beijing . And then 32:22.884 --> 32:24.996 they'll go out to provincial archives 32:24.996 --> 32:27.218 looking for information largely on uh , 32:27.218 --> 32:29.950 shootdowns , crash sites . Ah , The 32:29.950 --> 32:32.117 span of time frame they're looking for 32:32.117 --> 32:36.060 is World War Two through Vietnam . Uh , 32:36.070 --> 32:38.237 what they found on Korea today is that 32:38.237 --> 32:40.700 the upper left of the slide . They also 32:40.700 --> 32:42.960 sent investigation teams to suspected 32:42.960 --> 32:46.830 crash sites on chinese territory . And 32:46.840 --> 32:49.970 that was largely in northeast china and 32:49.970 --> 32:52.590 channel coastal areas . They conducted 32:52.590 --> 32:55.000 remains recovery at one of the sites in 32:55.000 --> 32:57.500 northeast china . And those remains are 32:57.500 --> 33:00.160 under analysis at this time in our 33:00.160 --> 33:03.330 laboratory . So this is a chronology of 33:03.330 --> 33:05.550 all remains recoveries for Korea . 33:06.940 --> 33:10.010 Uh , going back to the 50s . Uh , the 33:10.010 --> 33:12.066 recovery efforts resulted in a small 33:12.066 --> 33:15.280 number of air losses um , from each of 33:15.280 --> 33:17.391 these iterations , with the exception 33:17.391 --> 33:19.558 of the re remains recoveries conducted 33:19.558 --> 33:21.669 by the North Koreans and turnovers in 33:21.669 --> 33:25.240 2007 and 2018 . So today , those have 33:25.240 --> 33:27.670 appeared to have involved ground losses . 33:30.740 --> 33:32.851 Let me talk about a successful case . 33:32.851 --> 33:35.760 We had in china . Ah 33:36.940 --> 33:39.490 Our own records on the , on the captain 33:39.490 --> 33:42.740 and coke case , which is 1952 F- 86 33:42.740 --> 33:45.670 case . Our own records indicated that 33:45.670 --> 33:47.726 he was shot down in the mouth of the 33:47.726 --> 33:51.460 Yalu River . Well , the uh , his dog 33:51.460 --> 33:53.571 tag was found in the Chinese military 33:53.571 --> 33:56.890 museum in Dandong . So we knew maybe he 33:56.890 --> 33:58.946 was lost over land and lost , lost , 33:58.946 --> 34:01.880 lost over water . So we started making 34:01.880 --> 34:05.280 inquiries with the chinese on that at 34:05.280 --> 34:07.502 the same time , our researchers in , in 34:07.502 --> 34:10.360 Moscow located a chinese police report 34:10.370 --> 34:12.670 that had the location of the crash site 34:13.040 --> 34:16.030 uh as an address uh , just write in 34:16.030 --> 34:18.680 Danville . So we got permission from 34:18.680 --> 34:20.810 the Chinese Foreign Affairs office to 34:20.810 --> 34:22.860 conduct investigations and recovery 34:23.240 --> 34:26.170 Operations in 2004 . The result of 34:26.170 --> 34:29.000 those efforts are That Captain Cope was 34:29.000 --> 34:31.460 buried with full military honors in 34:31.460 --> 34:35.380 Dallas in 2004 . So you may 34:35.380 --> 34:37.602 recall a few slides back the chronology 34:37.602 --> 34:39.970 of recovery efforts in Korea . 34:40.840 --> 34:44.350 867 of the 1950s remains 34:44.420 --> 34:47.000 recoveries were unknown during 34:47.000 --> 34:50.350 Operation Glory . And the American 34:50.350 --> 34:52.072 Graves Registration Service is 34:52.072 --> 34:54.294 operating in South Korea in the 1950s . 34:55.340 --> 34:58.770 Uh , those unknowns were all buried at 34:58.770 --> 35:00.881 the National Memorial Cemetery of the 35:00.881 --> 35:03.270 pacific uh , at the Punch Bowl in 35:03.270 --> 35:06.130 Hawaii . So we have a seven phase plan 35:06.130 --> 35:09.130 to disinter Uh , the remaining 35:09.130 --> 35:12.720 650 , as of 2018 . 35:12.730 --> 35:15.530 Uh , and that's seven phase plan 35:15.540 --> 35:17.850 involves of course , both cases from 35:17.850 --> 35:19.072 north and south Korea 35:22.340 --> 35:26.330 in in south Korea . We've got a 35:26.340 --> 35:29.170 couple of cases that we know of that 35:29.640 --> 35:33.010 are going to be exhumed in Phase five 35:33.010 --> 35:36.550 and Phase six . Now in North Korea . We 35:36.550 --> 35:40.300 have a lot more . There was a 35:40.310 --> 35:43.050 burial of a part of a an aircrew in the 35:43.050 --> 35:45.920 Pyongyang military cemetery and we we 35:45.920 --> 35:48.660 got back those in Phase One , should 35:48.660 --> 35:52.550 that group not be there . And and among 35:52.550 --> 35:55.410 those unknowns , They may be in a later 35:55.410 --> 35:57.790 phase such as Phase five or Phase six . 35:57.790 --> 36:00.210 Because some of the Pyongyang burials 36:00.210 --> 36:02.330 were mislabeled by the Communists 36:02.500 --> 36:04.700 battlefield losses a little bit to the 36:04.700 --> 36:07.960 northeast of the Pyongyang cemetery . 36:09.430 --> 36:12.030 And I know it in Phase seven . In Phase 36:12.030 --> 36:14.700 seven there's 30 air losses and those 36:14.700 --> 36:17.350 air losses reported as reported by the 36:18.030 --> 36:21.020 ah north Koreans occurred between 36:21.020 --> 36:23.880 Pyongyang and the military zone . And 36:23.890 --> 36:26.168 they will be coming out in Phase seven . 36:26.430 --> 36:28.097 Now let's look at south Korea 36:28.097 --> 36:31.140 recoveries . Uh in South Korea , we've 36:31.140 --> 36:33.820 been there conducting operations 36:33.860 --> 36:37.430 looking for air cases from 2000 and uh 36:37.440 --> 36:41.440 to 2021 this year , every site has been 36:41.440 --> 36:43.160 investigated at least once 36:45.830 --> 36:47.886 you'll probably hear or you probably 36:47.886 --> 36:50.330 recall hearing from our operations 36:50.330 --> 36:53.110 briefers yesterday that we will 36:53.110 --> 36:55.277 continue to pursue South Korea cases . 36:55.277 --> 36:57.790 And in fact some de mining will need to 36:57.790 --> 37:01.480 occur on some of these as well as some 37:01.490 --> 37:03.490 potential some open water diving in 37:03.490 --> 37:05.760 shallow areas off the coastlines of 37:05.760 --> 37:08.830 Korea . So let me talk about the Cold 37:08.830 --> 37:12.640 War . Yeah . For 126 Cold 37:12.640 --> 37:14.751 War families . The Cold War was a hot 37:14.751 --> 37:18.520 war From 1915 to 1969 . There were 37:18.520 --> 37:21.600 15 incidents where we lost aviators 37:21.610 --> 37:23.890 largely in reconnaissance operations 37:23.900 --> 37:27.780 off the borders of the soviet Union or 37:27.780 --> 37:31.470 china or North Korea . The 1st 10 cases 37:31.470 --> 37:34.430 on this list in fact were lost . Those 37:34.430 --> 37:36.597 planes were lost on the borders of the 37:36.597 --> 37:39.340 Soviet Union . two cases were lost on 37:39.340 --> 37:41.830 the Chinese coastline And another was 37:41.830 --> 37:44.040 an agent drop in northeast China in 37:44.040 --> 37:47.640 1952 . In the final case actually , 37:47.640 --> 37:50.960 there was another 1969 case . RC 121 37:51.530 --> 37:54.170 shut down off the east coast of uh 37:54.180 --> 37:57.460 north Korea . And then there was a 1954 37:58.030 --> 38:01.130 air resupply drop on Benjamin indian 38:01.130 --> 38:03.510 food to resupply the french Union 38:03.510 --> 38:06.510 forces there . That's the 1 19 crashed 38:06.510 --> 38:10.290 in Laos . So you see the slide here . 38:10.300 --> 38:12.860 Uh every case from the cold war that 38:12.860 --> 38:15.310 was over land has been investigated and 38:15.310 --> 38:17.980 recovered and we have accounted for 20 38:17.980 --> 38:21.020 individuals . Most of the rest of the 38:21.020 --> 38:23.650 cases there are potentially deep over 38:23.650 --> 38:26.240 water but that does not lessen our 38:26.240 --> 38:27.962 effort to try and find as much 38:27.962 --> 38:30.129 information as possible on those cases 38:30.129 --> 38:33.150 which includes the canvassing survey 38:33.150 --> 38:36.250 and request for information on 38:36.620 --> 38:38.840 chinese and Russian records . 38:40.520 --> 38:42.576 Finally , you'll see here a slide of 38:42.576 --> 38:45.000 the B- 29 . This represented the 38:45.010 --> 38:48.470 workhorse airship for both The Cold War 38:48.470 --> 38:50.640 and the Korean War and we lost over 30 38:50.640 --> 38:53.580 of these Uh counted between the two 38:53.580 --> 38:57.570 wars ah for the Cold War . We lost 38:57.570 --> 38:59.681 them in air reconnaissance missions . 38:59.820 --> 39:01.980 That was , as we all know , they were 39:01.980 --> 39:03.924 called the Silent Service and they 39:03.924 --> 39:07.360 provided the early warning for our 39:07.360 --> 39:09.390 forces in in order to try and avoid 39:09.390 --> 39:11.750 World War Three and they succeeded 39:13.820 --> 39:16.042 For Korea . The impact of the air war . 39:16.042 --> 39:17.931 It could be measured in obviously 39:17.931 --> 39:20.600 tonnage that was dropped 700,000 tons . 39:20.610 --> 39:22.790 Air sorties conducted over a million 39:22.790 --> 39:24.901 sorties . But if you look at what the 39:24.901 --> 39:27.300 enemy said about our air capability , 39:27.310 --> 39:30.510 that's very striking . There were 39:30.520 --> 39:34.290 five phases of major attacks 39:34.290 --> 39:36.490 conducted by the Chinese . So five 39:36.490 --> 39:39.980 major offensives that occurred in Korea 39:39.990 --> 39:43.900 in 1950 and 1951 . Uh Each of 39:43.900 --> 39:46.630 those offensives were designed to end 39:46.630 --> 39:50.270 the war and bring the United Nations to 39:50.270 --> 39:54.050 the table to sue for peace . None of 39:54.050 --> 39:57.500 those offenses achieved their desired 39:57.500 --> 40:00.530 goals . In fact marshall pong 40:01.110 --> 40:04.090 complain that since the offenses didn't 40:04.090 --> 40:06.312 last longer than about two weeks , some 40:06.312 --> 40:08.312 some of them a week . He complained 40:08.312 --> 40:10.257 that he was unable to resupply the 40:10.257 --> 40:12.368 frontline forces and much of that was 40:12.368 --> 40:14.890 due to the hindrance that he had 40:15.310 --> 40:18.240 because of our success in 40:19.080 --> 40:21.320 interdicting the supply routes 40:23.710 --> 40:25.932 And obviously you can see the success . 40:25.932 --> 40:28.043 South Korea is a free country today . 40:30.210 --> 40:32.321 So now ladies and gentlemen , my time 40:32.321 --> 40:34.488 is up . I thank you for your attention 40:34.610 --> 40:36.777 and I'll be available for the question 40:36.777 --> 40:38.530 and answer session later today 40:47.010 --> 40:50.240 we're going to transition to the 40:50.250 --> 40:52.472 question and answer . But before we get 40:52.472 --> 40:54.528 to the question answer , I just also 40:54.528 --> 40:56.861 want to remind everybody that P . O . W . 40:56.861 --> 40:58.917 M . I . Recognition Day is september 40:58.917 --> 41:01.250 17th . Uh and just as a reminder , the 41:01.250 --> 41:03.139 P O W . M . I . A recognition Day 41:03.139 --> 41:05.490 poster is available for order . So if 41:05.490 --> 41:07.657 you haven't got your order in , if you 41:07.657 --> 41:11.170 go to the D P A dot mil M I L site on 41:11.170 --> 41:13.337 our banner , you will be able to click 41:13.337 --> 41:15.337 on it , it'll take you right to the 41:15.337 --> 41:15.300 order page so that you can get your 41:15.310 --> 41:17.477 order in for your posters . So at this 41:17.477 --> 41:19.588 time , if I could have the very first 41:19.588 --> 41:21.530 time come to the front please 41:24.410 --> 41:26.521 and then ruff as soon as we got folks 41:26.810 --> 41:29.030 coming in on the screen 41:45.110 --> 41:48.380 and then as soon as uh so ralph , do we 41:48.380 --> 41:52.300 have everybody right roger at this 41:52.300 --> 41:54.522 point . I'm gonna turn it over to start 41:54.522 --> 41:56.744 in first class effort uh to start the Q 41:56.744 --> 41:59.140 and a session . Thank you very much sir . 41:59.810 --> 42:02.020 So our first question in today's Q and 42:02.020 --> 42:05.710 a session is from judy nobles 42:05.710 --> 42:07.877 Lewis from our facebook page . This is 42:07.877 --> 42:09.988 actually a question posed yesterday . 42:10.300 --> 42:12.820 Uh and this question is for dan buckman , 42:13.700 --> 42:16.033 have you been allowed into any of the P . 42:16.033 --> 42:17.880 O . W . Camps or are the foreign 42:17.880 --> 42:20.130 governments refusing to allow you into 42:20.130 --> 42:20.930 the camps 42:48.650 --> 42:50.761 ralph ? Is he trying to come in ? Can 42:50.761 --> 42:50.720 we ? 42:56.100 --> 42:57.100 Right 43:10.800 --> 43:13.760 hmm . Alright , so let's come back to 43:13.760 --> 43:16.230 that question . Next question please . 43:16.800 --> 43:19.670 Roger . So the next question is from 43:19.670 --> 43:23.000 brian Hansen from our website chat and 43:23.000 --> 43:26.720 he asks of the 101 126 Cold War M . I . 43:26.720 --> 43:29.120 A . S . How many have family reference 43:29.120 --> 43:33.110 samples ? So 43:33.110 --> 43:35.840 that's a good question . Um Don't quote 43:35.840 --> 43:38.007 me on the exact number but we actually 43:38.007 --> 43:40.380 out of all of those were at about 95% 43:40.380 --> 43:42.102 coverage for all of the family 43:42.102 --> 43:44.213 references . Uh we work directly with 43:44.213 --> 43:46.491 State Department to get the references . 43:46.491 --> 43:48.602 Uh and they are actively pursuing the 43:48.602 --> 43:50.047 remaining ones on those . 43:54.900 --> 43:58.790 Also from brian Hansen . When we have 43:58.810 --> 44:02.180 um if there are unidentified 44:02.180 --> 44:06.120 remains that are to be reinterred when 44:06.130 --> 44:08.860 when remains are unidentified remains 44:08.860 --> 44:11.082 are designated these that these need to 44:11.082 --> 44:15.030 be reinsured . Is it because that we 44:15.030 --> 44:17.197 weren't either weren't able to extract 44:17.197 --> 44:19.141 D . N . A . Or because there is no 44:19.141 --> 44:22.530 family reference sample . So that's a 44:22.530 --> 44:24.470 good question . Uh It's actually 44:24.470 --> 44:28.110 multifaceted with that . When we get a 44:28.110 --> 44:31.250 DNA sample from the D . P . A . And 44:31.250 --> 44:33.670 with current technology . Uh If you 44:33.670 --> 44:35.781 remember from my talk yesterday we do 44:35.781 --> 44:38.003 everything in duplicate to get there to 44:38.003 --> 44:40.226 see if uh to make sure we get the right 44:40.226 --> 44:42.337 answer . If the first extract doesn't 44:42.337 --> 44:44.503 work we'll try second and then a third 44:44.503 --> 44:48.400 to get that when we finished that 44:48.400 --> 44:51.100 if we report out a result that leads to 44:51.100 --> 44:53.540 a comparison . If we report out that 44:53.540 --> 44:55.890 it's inconclusive that means we didn't 44:55.890 --> 44:58.400 get duplicated results will work with 44:58.400 --> 45:01.160 the GPA to get another sample . If we 45:01.160 --> 45:03.104 report out to the D . P . A . That 45:03.104 --> 45:05.610 there were no DNA results . It doesn't 45:05.620 --> 45:08.420 end there . We are always constantly 45:08.420 --> 45:10.710 bringing on new methods . We talked 45:10.710 --> 45:12.821 with the D . P . A . On a daily basis 45:12.821 --> 45:14.877 and every time we bring a new method 45:14.877 --> 45:17.043 online re revisit samples that did not 45:17.043 --> 45:19.430 work previously . And so when we're 45:19.440 --> 45:21.551 just because it didn't work the first 45:21.551 --> 45:24.390 time around we never give up . Um And 45:24.390 --> 45:26.501 there are a number of instances where 45:26.501 --> 45:28.770 in the early nineties we had done some 45:28.770 --> 45:30.770 of the korean war samples that were 45:30.770 --> 45:33.048 that were turned over as part of the K . 45:33.048 --> 45:35.680 208 that it took until 2011 when we 45:35.680 --> 45:38.013 were able to get that nuclear D . N . A . 45:38.013 --> 45:40.490 And do STRS that we were able to get to 45:40.490 --> 45:43.010 the identification because we only had 45:43.390 --> 45:47.010 a paternal reference on file . And 45:47.010 --> 45:50.470 so when we talk about the korean war We 45:50.470 --> 45:53.440 have 92% coverage for the original 80 45:53.440 --> 45:55.920 100 missing with family references . If 45:55.920 --> 45:57.976 we need additional family references 45:57.976 --> 46:00.142 were actively doing that . The D . P . 46:00.142 --> 46:01.976 A . drives that with the service 46:01.976 --> 46:04.390 casualty offices . So when you ask that 46:04.390 --> 46:07.680 question of of the disinterment and 46:07.680 --> 46:09.736 then re interment that's a different 46:09.736 --> 46:12.450 policy . Um And I will actually turn 46:12.450 --> 46:15.300 that over to Mr McCaig on that . 46:17.980 --> 46:20.410 So when it comes to disinterment of 46:20.410 --> 46:23.080 unknowns , the current Department of 46:23.080 --> 46:25.400 Defense policy is that we in D . P . A . 46:25.410 --> 46:27.810 Produced a report for remains that have 46:27.810 --> 46:30.400 been out of the grave for four years . 46:30.880 --> 46:32.936 And in that report are scientists or 46:32.936 --> 46:36.690 historians go through a very deliberate 46:36.790 --> 46:40.490 and very detailed analysis of 46:40.880 --> 46:43.213 what work has been accomplished to date . 46:43.380 --> 46:46.300 As well as what work remains to date . 46:46.300 --> 46:49.780 We have not been told to reenter a set 46:49.780 --> 46:52.370 of unknowns . There is one set of 46:52.370 --> 46:56.140 remains World War II that have been out 46:56.140 --> 46:58.870 of the ground for 20 years . But our 46:58.870 --> 47:01.270 colleagues at Asheville are pursuing 47:01.270 --> 47:04.220 one last line of D . N . A . D . N . A . 47:04.220 --> 47:07.370 Analysis and after however that turns 47:07.370 --> 47:10.080 out we will then assess whether or not 47:10.080 --> 47:12.780 we recommend re internment of that set 47:12.780 --> 47:14.280 of World War Two unknown . 47:16.580 --> 47:18.930 And if I can just add to get to the 47:18.930 --> 47:22.300 disinterment there is a very stringent 47:22.300 --> 47:25.570 policy Uh if it's a single individual 47:25.570 --> 47:27.790 that is unknown and it looks like that 47:27.790 --> 47:29.890 we have to have a greater than 50% 47:29.900 --> 47:32.067 likelihood of identifying it . If it's 47:32.067 --> 47:34.710 coast commingled remains We have to 47:34.710 --> 47:37.350 have the a 60% chance of making 47:37.350 --> 47:39.710 identification is there ? So even going 47:39.720 --> 47:42.600 to the disinterment and and and and 47:42.600 --> 47:44.980 going into dis entering our fallen 47:44.980 --> 47:47.147 heroes . We already have to have those 47:47.147 --> 47:49.980 references on file dental . We have to 47:49.980 --> 47:52.091 have the anthropology reports so that 47:52.091 --> 47:54.147 we have a good confidence that we're 47:54.147 --> 47:56.313 gonna identify those service members . 47:56.980 --> 47:59.310 Let me ask DR Keyes if she could speak 47:59.310 --> 48:01.730 to some of the older korean war 48:01.730 --> 48:03.980 unknowns that you and your project team 48:03.980 --> 48:06.200 are looking at and how you keep 48:06.210 --> 48:09.210 reassessing and reanalyzing and never 48:09.210 --> 48:13.130 giving up . Thank you 48:13.130 --> 48:16.610 sir . Um So all of all of the punch 48:16.610 --> 48:19.920 bowl cases that have Ben disinterred 48:19.930 --> 48:23.550 and are over 24 months . We regularly 48:23.560 --> 48:26.580 review those um to see why we still 48:26.580 --> 48:28.802 have been in the laboratory and then re 48:28.802 --> 48:30.636 evaluate any additional lines of 48:30.636 --> 48:32.747 evidence or anything that has changed 48:32.747 --> 48:35.280 for that case that we can pursue uh to 48:35.290 --> 48:37.490 get those remains identified . So we 48:37.490 --> 48:39.630 look at whether we can do additional 48:39.640 --> 48:42.710 DNA testing as DR McMahon mentioned if 48:42.710 --> 48:46.660 there's any other um uh family 48:46.660 --> 48:48.660 reference samples that have come in 48:48.660 --> 48:50.771 that we could compare against remains 48:50.771 --> 48:52.938 that maybe didn't match any any of our 48:52.938 --> 48:55.049 losses um or any other things that we 48:55.049 --> 48:57.271 can do . So we are always working those 48:57.271 --> 48:59.520 cases until we have exhausted all 48:59.520 --> 49:01.870 possibilities which so far there 49:01.880 --> 49:03.880 there's always something new that's 49:03.880 --> 49:06.102 being developed or some other method or 49:06.102 --> 49:08.050 line of testing that we can try to 49:08.060 --> 49:10.700 identify those . Thank you . 49:12.570 --> 49:14.860 So dR keyes brought up a great point 49:14.870 --> 49:17.900 about additional frss . The great part 49:17.900 --> 49:21.150 about that is how our computer systems 49:21.150 --> 49:23.372 are integrated . The best way that they 49:23.372 --> 49:26.550 can be if D . P . A . Is waiting on a 49:26.560 --> 49:28.727 family reference , it's flagged in our 49:28.727 --> 49:31.090 system as a priority . So as soon as 49:31.090 --> 49:33.640 that reference comes in we know that 49:33.640 --> 49:35.807 that is tied to a case that we've been 49:35.807 --> 49:37.973 waiting on and we can actually process 49:37.973 --> 49:40.084 that as a priority and turn it around 49:40.084 --> 49:42.307 very quickly because we've been waiting 49:42.307 --> 49:44.140 on that . So that's part of that 49:44.140 --> 49:46.140 constant communication that we have 49:46.140 --> 49:48.473 with the laboratory on a daily , weekly , 49:48.473 --> 49:50.418 monthly and yearly basis . Sorry , 49:50.418 --> 49:52.529 never looks like dan Balkman is ready 49:52.529 --> 49:54.640 to take that one question . Yes sir . 49:54.640 --> 49:56.584 So the first that question for dan 49:56.584 --> 49:58.584 Hoffman from earlier were from judy 49:58.584 --> 50:01.160 nobles , Lewis from our facebook chat 50:01.170 --> 50:04.000 yesterday , have we been allowed into 50:04.010 --> 50:06.750 any of the POW camps or are there 50:06.750 --> 50:09.120 foreign governments refusing to allow 50:09.120 --> 50:13.090 us into those camps ? Thank you . Can 50:13.090 --> 50:16.490 everyone hear me ? Yes , we can 50:17.260 --> 50:19.350 Roger . We we've been doing this , 50:19.360 --> 50:21.620 doing recovery work in North Korea from 50:21.620 --> 50:25.170 1996 to 2005 . And in the 50:25.170 --> 50:28.020 annual negotiations that we took mostly 50:28.020 --> 50:30.190 on each December , the North Koreans 50:30.660 --> 50:33.120 told us where we're going to go . And 50:33.120 --> 50:35.520 the even though we asked to be uh to 50:35.520 --> 50:38.790 have access to POW camps and they chose 50:38.790 --> 50:42.280 to steer us towards battlefields . So 50:42.280 --> 50:44.880 we have not had access to POW camps . 50:49.660 --> 50:51.827 Alright , so the next question is also 50:51.827 --> 50:55.280 for uh for dan , it comes from Douglas 50:55.280 --> 50:57.390 Anderson yesterday from our website 50:57.390 --> 51:00.600 chat and he said that during phase two 51:00.610 --> 51:03.020 or the phase two of the Punch Bowl 51:03.030 --> 51:05.141 disinterment including Yalu River and 51:05.141 --> 51:07.870 Pow camps are are actually this could 51:07.870 --> 51:10.037 be for the lab . Sorry , are there any 51:10.037 --> 51:12.130 results yet from phase two or these 51:12.130 --> 51:13.690 still to be analyzed . 51:17.460 --> 51:19.730 Thank you for that question . Yes . We 51:19.740 --> 51:22.870 have the six identification from the 51:22.880 --> 51:25.210 phase two minutes interment one of whom 51:25.210 --> 51:29.020 was camp five POW was father upon . 51:29.030 --> 51:31.620 The press of those identification were 51:31.620 --> 51:35.020 from rock losses . But we 51:35.030 --> 51:38.740 are we have submitted in a shambles for 51:38.740 --> 51:40.962 all of the Phase three disinterment and 51:40.962 --> 51:42.851 we are continuously getting those 51:42.851 --> 51:45.073 results back . So we will be continuing 51:45.073 --> 51:47.840 to make ideas from those . Um both the 51:47.850 --> 51:50.490 pow losses in the in the rock office . 51:50.930 --> 51:53.680 So if dan wants to elaborate on that , 51:54.260 --> 51:54.980 thank you 51:59.330 --> 52:02.380 veronica . That was good . 52:04.650 --> 52:06.706 The next question then is from Karen 52:06.706 --> 52:09.180 Rozanski from our website Chat 52:09.190 --> 52:12.690 yesterday . And her question is of the 52:12.690 --> 52:15.750 500 POWs from the Tiger group . How 52:15.750 --> 52:18.390 many have been identified ? How many 52:18.390 --> 52:21.370 are still not found ? And how many of 52:21.370 --> 52:23.537 the 500 from the Tiger Group is on the 52:23.537 --> 52:25.703 Korean side or the Chinese side of the 52:25.703 --> 52:26.703 camp 52:32.450 --> 52:34.394 I believe . Sorry . That's for dan 52:34.394 --> 52:37.240 Hoffman . That's right . So the Tiger 52:37.240 --> 52:40.430 group for everybody's information was 52:40.440 --> 52:44.430 were POWs that were captured From July 52:44.430 --> 52:46.950 to about the Middle August early part 52:46.950 --> 52:49.750 of August of 1950 . from Cajun to the 52:49.760 --> 52:51.649 post on Perimeter . And they were 52:51.649 --> 52:54.580 marched up or put on trains up to the 52:54.580 --> 52:57.590 far north of the northern tip of north 52:57.590 --> 53:01.110 Korea . We have not been allowed into 53:01.120 --> 53:04.490 that area . There were no operation 53:04.490 --> 53:06.970 Glory returns registered from that area . 53:07.850 --> 53:11.250 So from those three cemeteries that are 53:11.250 --> 53:14.600 there up towards the L . A river . Uh 53:14.610 --> 53:17.250 there's between March routes 70 miles 53:17.250 --> 53:20.290 south of that And those uh cemeteries , 53:21.050 --> 53:23.970 There's about 500 individuals who 53:23.980 --> 53:26.770 should be buried there . There are none 53:26.780 --> 53:29.830 that are buried on the Chinese side , 53:29.840 --> 53:32.170 you know that one of the camps is very 53:32.170 --> 53:34.392 close to the Tumen river that separates 53:34.392 --> 53:36.337 the two countries . So we have not 53:36.337 --> 53:39.970 recovered any individuals . from the 53:39.970 --> 53:43.820 tiger . Now one 53:43.820 --> 53:47.360 thing that can be said though there was , 53:47.370 --> 53:49.370 those individuals were named on the 53:49.370 --> 53:51.259 johnny johnson list . There was a 53:51.259 --> 53:54.300 garbled name in that group and he ended 53:54.300 --> 53:57.030 up being identified as a loss in the 53:57.040 --> 53:59.630 study of Korea . So his case is 53:59.640 --> 54:03.510 resolved but it's resolved because of 54:03.520 --> 54:06.760 this . The term is done through south 54:06.760 --> 54:07.250 Korea . 54:14.140 --> 54:16.362 The next question is from David S Lloyd 54:16.362 --> 54:18.540 from our website chat and he asks , 54:18.550 --> 54:20.439 have any M . I . A . S . From the 54:20.439 --> 54:22.610 battle of pork chop hill . Been 54:22.610 --> 54:23.170 recovered 54:32.340 --> 54:34.507 dan . It looks like that would fall to 54:34.507 --> 54:37.380 you or jim Rhodes or jim Rhodes . Right . 54:37.390 --> 54:38.390 Yes sir . 54:43.140 --> 54:44.140 Council agency , 54:49.430 --> 54:52.540 jimmy or daniel . It appears you're 54:52.540 --> 54:55.940 muted . I lost audio for about the last 54:55.940 --> 54:58.000 three minutes and you repeat 54:59.840 --> 55:03.620 you bet the question is dan uh 55:03.630 --> 55:05.519 have any M . I . A . S . From the 55:05.519 --> 55:07.741 battle of pork chop hill in north Korea 55:07.741 --> 55:08.963 have been recovered . 55:12.340 --> 55:15.790 Yes . So 55:15.800 --> 55:19.120 there was just ah I 55:19.120 --> 55:22.400 never that The lab is called K 55:22.400 --> 55:24.120 208 . They were 55:24.130 --> 55:27.810 1919 19 1994 remains 55:27.810 --> 55:31.780 returns 208 boxes . And 55:31.790 --> 55:33.790 there was a group of them that were 55:33.790 --> 55:36.012 listed as a pill . We have made to case 55:36.012 --> 55:38.123 resolutions from individuals who were 55:38.123 --> 55:39.512 lost on pork chop hill . 55:43.540 --> 55:45.810 The next question comes from Lynn song 55:45.820 --> 55:48.740 acres from our facebook chat and her 55:48.740 --> 55:51.430 question is if someone has been labeled 55:51.430 --> 55:54.440 as unrecoverable , does that mean no 55:54.440 --> 55:56.760 further further efforts will ever be 55:56.760 --> 55:59.360 made even if there are scientific 55:59.360 --> 56:01.840 advances that have been made since 56:03.230 --> 56:07.090 Dan . Can you feel that 1 ? Yes . So 56:07.090 --> 56:09.146 in the individual deceased personnel 56:09.146 --> 56:11.690 files , virtually every file has , in 56:11.690 --> 56:14.650 their board report going back to about 56:14.650 --> 56:18.340 1955 and there were boards that 56:18.350 --> 56:21.530 declared all unresolved cases from the 56:21.530 --> 56:24.440 korean war as unrecoverable . And that 56:24.440 --> 56:26.440 was after extensive search into the 56:26.440 --> 56:28.551 south and the fact that we , that the 56:28.551 --> 56:30.218 north had was a denied area . 56:32.530 --> 56:35.150 Various statutes after 1996 that 56:35.160 --> 56:37.160 followed the missing persons act of 56:37.160 --> 56:40.080 1996 essentially have directed us to 56:40.080 --> 56:42.840 pursue all cases from World War two 56:42.840 --> 56:45.750 through ah the gulf war . 56:47.230 --> 56:50.080 And so many of the cases on their face 56:50.090 --> 56:52.380 are gonna be unrecoverable . If you had 56:52.380 --> 56:55.470 a plane pitch off a carrier deck in the 56:55.470 --> 56:57.160 sea of Japan is probably not 56:57.160 --> 57:01.130 recoverable . Uh huh . But virtually 57:01.130 --> 57:04.300 every case has been pursued . Now 57:04.300 --> 57:06.520 there's going to be situations where 57:06.530 --> 57:09.410 yes , they will not be recoverable but 57:09.420 --> 57:11.850 in no case have we made a declaration 57:12.530 --> 57:14.740 for the korean war that an individual 57:14.750 --> 57:16.550 today is unrecoverable . 57:23.130 --> 57:25.940 The next question is from wanda lens 57:25.940 --> 57:28.370 from our facebook chat And she would 57:28.370 --> 57:30.550 like to know how many of the K- 55 57:30.550 --> 57:32.530 boxes , there are still left to go 57:32.530 --> 57:36.490 through . I believe Dr keyes could 57:36.490 --> 57:40.270 probably answer that question . I can 57:40.270 --> 57:42.700 take that one . Um Thank you for that 57:42.700 --> 57:44.700 question . Um That is a really good 57:44.700 --> 57:47.580 question because we When we received 57:47.580 --> 57:51.230 the 55 boxes in August of 2018 to the 57:51.230 --> 57:53.540 laboratory , we immediately began 57:53.550 --> 57:55.870 inventory . All of those boxes have 57:55.880 --> 57:57.880 been inventory . They have all been 57:57.880 --> 58:01.070 samples for D . N . A . And or isotope 58:01.070 --> 58:04.060 testing and we have received all of 58:04.060 --> 58:06.060 that initial testing . All of those 58:06.060 --> 58:08.820 results back , everything that that 58:08.830 --> 58:11.280 could be only have those results . Um 58:11.290 --> 58:15.190 So we are still working the rest 58:15.190 --> 58:17.412 of the remains that are left in the K . 58:17.412 --> 58:21.240 55 a lot of those are some of the cases 58:21.240 --> 58:23.184 that Dr McMahon and I were talking 58:23.184 --> 58:26.450 about yesterday , we either um need a 58:26.460 --> 58:29.850 nuclear frs to resolve it . Um They may 58:29.850 --> 58:31.906 have gilded mitochondrial DNA but we 58:31.906 --> 58:33.960 don't have any matches . It doesn't 58:33.960 --> 58:36.127 match any service members that we have 58:36.127 --> 58:38.430 on file um or the mitochondrial 58:38.430 --> 58:40.640 sequences are very common . So we're 58:40.650 --> 58:43.060 working on narrowing it down to one 58:43.060 --> 58:45.227 individual . So all of those cases are 58:45.227 --> 58:48.450 still actively being uh worked . We 58:48.450 --> 58:51.430 have all of the initial inventory For 58:51.430 --> 58:53.250 all 55 bucks . Thank you . 58:55.520 --> 58:58.630 So with with regards to the 58:58.640 --> 59:02.480 K55 boxes . Uh really within 59:02.480 --> 59:04.536 about three months we received about 59:04.536 --> 59:06.630 525 d . n . a . samples for initial 59:06.630 --> 59:09.770 processing . Uh We processed those 59:09.780 --> 59:12.910 along with the other 59:12.910 --> 59:15.900 disinterment the USs Oklahoma in 59:15.900 --> 59:17.956 Vietnam samples . It took us about a 59:17.956 --> 59:19.956 year to get through the the initial 59:19.956 --> 59:23.290 results on the 525 samples . Uh and as 59:23.290 --> 59:26.130 dr ki said now it is as I remember I 59:26.130 --> 59:28.241 said , it's like a jigsaw puzzle . We 59:28.241 --> 59:30.463 take the mitochondrial DNA to establish 59:30.463 --> 59:32.630 the borders . Sometimes there's common 59:32.630 --> 59:34.852 ones and then we use auto , auto soma , 59:34.852 --> 59:37.490 STRS and Y STRS to segregate further . 59:37.500 --> 59:39.520 Sometimes we're waiting for those 59:39.530 --> 59:42.800 family references to come in and we're 59:42.800 --> 59:46.060 working directly with the lab on a 59:46.060 --> 59:48.171 daily basis to resolve those cases as 59:48.171 --> 59:49.171 well . 59:52.120 --> 59:54.009 The next question comes from rick 59:54.009 --> 59:56.770 downes from our website chat and he 59:56.770 --> 59:59.100 asks there are supposedly issues 59:59.100 --> 01:00:01.170 involved with clearing the list of 01:00:01.170 --> 01:00:03.200 names for the korean war memorial . 01:00:03.210 --> 01:00:06.770 What can families do to assist in 01:00:06.770 --> 01:00:09.140 getting the list cleared sir ? I 01:00:09.140 --> 01:00:11.520 believe You were going to take that one . 01:00:12.810 --> 01:00:16.020 So , thanks to Dan Balkman , uh you can 01:00:16.020 --> 01:00:18.880 see how incredibly talented and gifted 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.640 he is when it comes to the korean war 01:00:22.010 --> 01:00:24.720 Missing . Thanks to Dan Balkman , all 01:00:24.730 --> 01:00:27.700 of your loved ones . Names have been 01:00:27.710 --> 01:00:30.720 double triple checked and provided to 01:00:30.730 --> 01:00:34.100 the Department of Defense . No , there 01:00:34.100 --> 01:00:36.044 is an issue and we're not sure why 01:00:36.044 --> 01:00:38.270 because we keep pressing them . uh they 01:00:38.270 --> 01:00:40.590 have yet to turn over the entire list 01:00:40.600 --> 01:00:43.550 of 36,000 that general tele tele we 01:00:43.550 --> 01:00:46.460 spoke to you about in concert with 01:00:46.470 --> 01:00:49.460 General kelly and his team . We have 01:00:49.460 --> 01:00:52.320 also enjoined upon the Department of 01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:54.542 Defense to provide that list as soon as 01:00:54.542 --> 01:00:57.310 possible . I spoke to the designer of 01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:00.960 the War of the wall of remembrance and 01:01:00.970 --> 01:01:03.520 they have picked out the stone . They 01:01:03.520 --> 01:01:06.670 have they're ready to go . And so right 01:01:06.670 --> 01:01:08.503 now rick there's nothing for the 01:01:08.503 --> 01:01:11.260 families to do . However , I assure you 01:01:11.260 --> 01:01:13.204 that when the opportunity presents 01:01:13.204 --> 01:01:15.371 itself that we have reached a dead end 01:01:15.371 --> 01:01:17.770 in terms of progress , we will let you 01:01:17.770 --> 01:01:19.980 know and to inform the families . But 01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:22.190 right now we're confident that that 01:01:22.190 --> 01:01:25.300 list will be provided because three 01:01:25.300 --> 01:01:27.440 weeks ago We provided the department 01:01:28.010 --> 01:01:30.390 the individual deceased personnel files 01:01:30.390 --> 01:01:33.940 for all of the korean war casualties . 01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.390 And we're hopeful that going through 01:01:36.390 --> 01:01:39.670 that database , they will be able to 01:01:39.680 --> 01:01:42.600 narrow down and finish the list that 01:01:42.600 --> 01:01:44.850 they need to provide to both the 01:01:44.850 --> 01:01:47.170 National Park service as well as the 01:01:47.170 --> 01:01:48.559 Department of Interior . 01:01:53.010 --> 01:01:55.177 The next question comes from Lynn Song 01:01:55.177 --> 01:01:58.980 acres again from our website chat and 01:01:58.980 --> 01:02:02.910 she asks , how can she find out if 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.031 a D . N . A reference sample has been 01:02:05.031 --> 01:02:08.240 given for her loved one or if there is 01:02:08.240 --> 01:02:09.120 one needed . 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.350 So the first thing is very quickly you 01:02:14.350 --> 01:02:16.390 can either contact your service 01:02:16.390 --> 01:02:18.612 casualty representative that's assigned 01:02:18.612 --> 01:02:20.779 to your case . They would have that on 01:02:20.779 --> 01:02:24.450 file to or if you with the with the 01:02:24.450 --> 01:02:27.330 briefs , my email address is on there . 01:02:27.340 --> 01:02:29.507 You can email me directly . I can look 01:02:29.507 --> 01:02:31.562 it up very quickly . I can just tell 01:02:31.562 --> 01:02:34.320 you if we have a maternal reference on 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:36.431 fire from mitochondria . I can't tell 01:02:36.431 --> 01:02:39.290 you who it is because of what we call 01:02:39.300 --> 01:02:41.467 personal identifying information . And 01:02:41.467 --> 01:02:43.578 we are a hippo lab just like when you 01:02:43.578 --> 01:02:45.578 go to your doctor's office and they 01:02:45.578 --> 01:02:47.522 have you sign the form . I have to 01:02:47.522 --> 01:02:49.522 protect that . I can tell you if we 01:02:49.522 --> 01:02:51.578 have a reference on file and what we 01:02:51.578 --> 01:02:51.410 need , but I can't tell you who we have 01:02:51.410 --> 01:02:52.420 on file . 01:02:56.200 --> 01:02:58.770 Next question comes from brian Hansen 01:02:58.780 --> 01:03:02.580 via our website chat And he asks in the 01:03:02.580 --> 01:03:06.560 2019 Tech talks the us proposed to 01:03:06.560 --> 01:03:08.338 seek private partners for joint 01:03:08.338 --> 01:03:10.227 underwater research , what is the 01:03:10.227 --> 01:03:11.720 status of that proposal 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.567 do you want to try to take ? Yes sir . 01:03:18.567 --> 01:03:20.400 So I will attempt to answer that 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:22.622 question and uh that obviously predated 01:03:22.622 --> 01:03:24.844 my time here . Um as I arrived in . But 01:03:24.844 --> 01:03:26.844 I can tell you that there have been 01:03:26.844 --> 01:03:29.011 partner actions pursued for underwater 01:03:29.011 --> 01:03:31.610 activity related to Cold War cases . As 01:03:31.610 --> 01:03:33.930 the uh Rear Admiral Bennett . We talked 01:03:33.930 --> 01:03:36.440 about yesterday , Deep Sea Productions 01:03:36.450 --> 01:03:39.790 executed investigative team mission up 01:03:39.790 --> 01:03:42.140 in the Baltic um and the evidence right 01:03:42.140 --> 01:03:44.970 now is undergoing analysis to see if 01:03:44.970 --> 01:03:48.190 that presents itself . I will say that 01:03:48.190 --> 01:03:50.700 categorically we attempt to pursue 01:03:50.700 --> 01:03:53.000 partner activity to augment our 01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.600 activity in any area . We can um And 01:03:55.600 --> 01:03:57.600 that needs to be worked through the 01:03:57.600 --> 01:03:59.822 Russian side of the Joint commission as 01:03:59.822 --> 01:03:59.420 well . 01:04:05.570 --> 01:04:07.459 The next question comes from rick 01:04:07.459 --> 01:04:10.390 downes via our website chat . And he 01:04:10.390 --> 01:04:12.960 asks , what can be done to convince 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.810 china to potentially share information 01:04:15.810 --> 01:04:18.260 on their korean war pOW camp records 01:04:18.260 --> 01:04:20.100 and rear guard units . 01:04:25.080 --> 01:04:27.302 You know , the fact , as I spoke to you 01:04:27.302 --> 01:04:29.990 yesterday , the fact that we still have 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.000 open channels of communication with 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.790 Russia and china despite the 01:04:34.800 --> 01:04:37.210 overarching Challenges with the 01:04:37.210 --> 01:04:39.480 bilateral relationship is encouraging 01:04:39.490 --> 01:04:42.840 on one hand . But at the same time , 01:04:42.850 --> 01:04:46.260 both the chinese and Russians appear to 01:04:46.260 --> 01:04:48.740 be somewhat cooperative when it comes 01:04:48.740 --> 01:04:51.720 to World War Two cases where we were 01:04:51.730 --> 01:04:54.920 allies and less 01:04:55.050 --> 01:04:58.590 cooperative , if not reticent reluctant 01:04:58.750 --> 01:05:01.670 when it comes to Vietnam war , korean 01:05:01.670 --> 01:05:05.000 war and Cold War . That's not to say 01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.167 that we don't continue to press them . 01:05:07.167 --> 01:05:08.944 That's not to say that we don't 01:05:08.944 --> 01:05:10.950 continue to encourage them that the 01:05:10.950 --> 01:05:13.510 humanitarian aspects of this mission 01:05:14.190 --> 01:05:18.050 outstripped by far the humanitarian 01:05:18.050 --> 01:05:20.280 responsibility that both our nations 01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:23.560 share . You know , it was proven with 01:05:23.560 --> 01:05:27.350 Vietnam that former enemies can 01:05:27.350 --> 01:05:30.920 use this mission to bridge differences , 01:05:30.930 --> 01:05:34.280 to establish trust and confidence and 01:05:34.290 --> 01:05:38.270 to hopefully create a relationship 01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:40.720 that contributes to overall peace , 01:05:40.720 --> 01:05:42.810 stability and security . 01:05:44.530 --> 01:05:47.080 Yeah , I had to be frank . I have not 01:05:47.090 --> 01:05:50.590 seen yet any appreciable 01:05:50.590 --> 01:05:52.760 progress that we've made when it comes 01:05:52.760 --> 01:05:55.250 to korean war , Cold War and Vietnam 01:05:55.250 --> 01:05:58.360 war cooperation from both the chinese 01:05:58.370 --> 01:06:01.190 and the Russians , but again , we use 01:06:01.190 --> 01:06:03.630 this as a tool of engagement as a tool 01:06:03.630 --> 01:06:06.390 of diplomacy and one that we will not 01:06:06.390 --> 01:06:09.660 stop to continue to press them on 01:06:09.660 --> 01:06:11.771 providing that information . I'd like 01:06:11.771 --> 01:06:14.010 to ask Dr Rodriguez if she could to 01:06:14.010 --> 01:06:16.610 speak to specifically since she was the 01:06:16.610 --> 01:06:20.410 last person to have contact with the P . 01:06:20.410 --> 01:06:22.840 L . A . Archives . As you recall her 01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:24.840 saying yesterday during the january 01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.062 virtual conference , If she could speak 01:06:27.062 --> 01:06:29.173 to the cases that we presented to the 01:06:29.173 --> 01:06:30.800 chinese back in january . 01:06:34.080 --> 01:06:36.370 Thank you . Mr McKay and thank you Mr 01:06:36.370 --> 01:06:39.450 Downs for your question . Um in January 01:06:39.460 --> 01:06:42.240 we presented four Korean war cases to 01:06:42.250 --> 01:06:44.450 the families to the P . L . A . 01:06:44.460 --> 01:06:47.010 Archives for further research . These 01:06:47.010 --> 01:06:50.480 cases well to air losses as well as POW 01:06:50.490 --> 01:06:54.280 cases in china . As Mr McKay said , we 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.447 have been much more successful working 01:06:56.447 --> 01:06:58.930 on World War to take this because we 01:06:58.930 --> 01:07:01.170 fought on this side during the war . 01:07:01.180 --> 01:07:04.070 These cases are less politicized but 01:07:04.070 --> 01:07:06.070 they do serve as the foundation for 01:07:06.070 --> 01:07:08.126 building trust and dialogue with the 01:07:08.126 --> 01:07:10.348 chinese . And I think we really saw the 01:07:10.348 --> 01:07:12.910 fruits of that this past january . 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:15.336 Unfortunately not for our korean war 01:07:15.336 --> 01:07:17.558 cases so much , but for the information 01:07:17.558 --> 01:07:19.891 that they gave us for the Cold War case , 01:07:20.080 --> 01:07:22.500 I think had we not had built that from 01:07:22.500 --> 01:07:24.667 relationship with the P . L . A . I do 01:07:24.667 --> 01:07:26.778 not think they would have shared that 01:07:26.778 --> 01:07:28.889 information about the Cold War case . 01:07:28.889 --> 01:07:31.056 So we hope we can continue to build on 01:07:31.056 --> 01:07:33.222 this for korean war cases , especially 01:07:33.222 --> 01:07:35.630 our POW cases , both in china and in 01:07:35.630 --> 01:07:39.010 the DPrk . Thank you . Could you speak 01:07:39.010 --> 01:07:42.230 to the technical Working groups for the 01:07:42.230 --> 01:07:44.990 three wars . Yes sir a little bit . 01:07:46.180 --> 01:07:49.000 So I do also want to just add onto the 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:50.980 top of that . I know this question 01:07:50.980 --> 01:07:54.300 specifically about Pl A archives . Um 01:07:54.310 --> 01:07:56.990 but at least on the former soviet side 01:07:56.990 --> 01:07:59.340 there are three active researchers in 01:07:59.340 --> 01:08:02.510 Moscow that do work . And I can assure 01:08:02.510 --> 01:08:04.690 you that for all of the Cold War cases 01:08:04.970 --> 01:08:07.081 that involves the potential of soviet 01:08:07.081 --> 01:08:09.081 involvement . But there's certainly 01:08:09.081 --> 01:08:11.026 been requests made for information 01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:14.650 related to those cases . It is worth 01:08:14.650 --> 01:08:17.270 noting though that although we might 01:08:17.270 --> 01:08:19.790 believe that the Soviets have entirely 01:08:19.790 --> 01:08:21.957 digitized all the records , understand 01:08:21.957 --> 01:08:24.290 everything that they have . Um you know , 01:08:24.290 --> 01:08:26.401 the possibility certainly exists that 01:08:26.401 --> 01:08:28.401 they just don't even know right now 01:08:28.401 --> 01:08:30.679 that they have access to those records . 01:08:30.679 --> 01:08:32.970 Um and directly to your point sir , I 01:08:32.980 --> 01:08:35.091 apologize that I got a little bit off 01:08:35.091 --> 01:08:38.660 track there . Um we hold work technical 01:08:38.660 --> 01:08:40.660 working groups . We look forward to 01:08:40.660 --> 01:08:42.882 doing those as soon as conditions allow 01:08:42.882 --> 01:08:44.900 one focused on each of the major 01:08:44.900 --> 01:08:46.956 conflicts and that's at least on the 01:08:46.956 --> 01:08:49.650 Russian side where we make the specific 01:08:49.650 --> 01:08:52.520 ask much like Dr Rodriguez said to them 01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:54.370 to investigate . Hopefully that 01:08:54.370 --> 01:08:55.870 addressed your questions . 01:08:58.370 --> 01:09:00.420 The next question comes from Sharon 01:09:00.430 --> 01:09:03.160 Macdonald via our website chat and she 01:09:03.160 --> 01:09:05.350 asks if we have been able to make 01:09:05.350 --> 01:09:08.120 progress on searches in Manchuria in 01:09:08.120 --> 01:09:09.100 recent years . 01:09:18.870 --> 01:09:20.537 Thank you for this question . 01:09:20.537 --> 01:09:22.703 Unfortunately at this time we have not 01:09:22.703 --> 01:09:24.926 made progress on conducting searches in 01:09:24.926 --> 01:09:27.370 Manchuria . However , we will continue 01:09:27.370 --> 01:09:29.537 to talk to the P . L . A . About these 01:09:29.537 --> 01:09:30.537 cases . 01:09:35.770 --> 01:09:38.690 Next question is and right now this is 01:09:38.690 --> 01:09:41.810 the last question that I have is from 01:09:41.820 --> 01:09:45.270 Robin . Uh Again , apologies . Robin , 01:09:45.270 --> 01:09:47.870 if I messed up your last name . PSN or 01:09:47.870 --> 01:09:51.150 PHP name from our facebook chat , would 01:09:51.150 --> 01:09:53.428 you say that it would be helpful for I . 01:09:53.428 --> 01:09:55.560 D . Purposes to consider joining an 01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.920 organization such as my heritage or 01:09:58.930 --> 01:10:02.140 something like that ? As for assume for 01:10:02.140 --> 01:10:05.550 DNA purposes . So that's an excellent 01:10:05.550 --> 01:10:07.790 question . Um 01:10:09.460 --> 01:10:11.627 I can only give you my opinion on that 01:10:11.627 --> 01:10:13.560 when you look and you research my 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:16.990 heritage or 23 and me and ancestry.com 01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.200 be aware that each one of those sites 01:10:20.200 --> 01:10:22.650 when you when they run your whole DNA 01:10:22.650 --> 01:10:25.990 profile and remember that there are 01:10:25.990 --> 01:10:28.212 identity markers , ancestry markers and 01:10:28.212 --> 01:10:30.730 disease predictive markers . There each 01:10:30.730 --> 01:10:33.640 site has its own requirements . Some of 01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:36.150 them will actually although anonymizer 01:10:36.150 --> 01:10:38.790 samples will allow researchers to get 01:10:39.160 --> 01:10:42.100 those results so that they can look for 01:10:42.110 --> 01:10:44.332 genetic predispositions and things like 01:10:44.332 --> 01:10:47.620 that . With that being said I would 01:10:47.620 --> 01:10:49.676 suggest not to do that because we're 01:10:49.676 --> 01:10:51.453 developing an essay that's very 01:10:51.453 --> 01:10:53.960 specific . Uh We will have some overlap 01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:56.127 with the markers that they do . But we 01:10:56.127 --> 01:10:59.710 chose ours based on what would give us 01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:03.480 the best chance for identifying very 01:11:03.490 --> 01:11:06.220 degraded remains . And as I said , it 01:11:06.220 --> 01:11:08.290 was designed to work with all of the 01:11:08.290 --> 01:11:10.290 existing references that we have on 01:11:10.290 --> 01:11:12.770 hand . So at this time I wouldn't I 01:11:12.770 --> 01:11:14.770 would say not don't go ahead if you 01:11:14.770 --> 01:11:16.992 weren't planning on doing to go out and 01:11:16.992 --> 01:11:19.048 commercially do that unless you were 01:11:19.048 --> 01:11:20.937 looking for your ancestry and you 01:11:20.937 --> 01:11:22.937 wanted to know that we would end up 01:11:22.937 --> 01:11:25.159 having to take a sample anyways and run 01:11:25.159 --> 01:11:26.714 it because of our forensics 01:11:26.714 --> 01:11:28.826 accreditation . We have to be able to 01:11:28.826 --> 01:11:30.714 do this cradle degree of chain of 01:11:30.714 --> 01:11:32.826 custody where we can show that we had 01:11:32.826 --> 01:11:35.048 control of the sample . We generated it 01:11:35.048 --> 01:11:37.180 based on a validated method following 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:40.330 the FBI quality assurance standards and 01:11:40.330 --> 01:11:43.120 the ISO 17 025 DNA forensic standards 01:11:43.130 --> 01:11:46.020 and that we made those comparisons . So 01:11:46.030 --> 01:11:47.974 uh in short , the answer is no you 01:11:47.974 --> 01:11:50.086 don't need to go do that . We'll take 01:11:50.086 --> 01:11:52.197 care of all of that with the existing 01:11:52.197 --> 01:11:54.308 references or any new references that 01:11:54.308 --> 01:11:58.090 come in . Great question . Sorry . We 01:11:58.090 --> 01:12:00.146 just had a question that had come in 01:12:00.146 --> 01:12:02.312 earlier that I missed and I apologized 01:12:02.312 --> 01:12:04.479 for that . This is from Susie Horowitz 01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:07.290 from our website chat and she is 01:12:07.290 --> 01:12:09.600 curious as to how many , if we know how 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:12.570 many total B 20 sixes might have been 01:12:12.570 --> 01:12:14.800 lost during the korean war ? That 01:12:14.810 --> 01:12:17.760 sounds like either dan Hoffman or Dr Dr 01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:18.880 Rodriguez question 01:12:22.450 --> 01:12:26.120 dan . Right , I have a 01:12:26.120 --> 01:12:29.980 compilation and my number is 86 . That 01:12:29.980 --> 01:12:33.330 would be aircraft that involved crews 01:12:33.330 --> 01:12:34.330 that were lost . 01:12:39.850 --> 01:12:41.961 Thank you , dan as of right now sir , 01:12:41.961 --> 01:12:44.239 that is all the questions that we have . 01:12:47.150 --> 01:12:49.150 Alright , thanks Sargeant effort at 01:12:49.150 --> 01:12:52.380 this time . I appreciate the briefers 01:12:52.380 --> 01:12:56.070 coming up for Q and A before we 01:12:56.070 --> 01:12:59.060 wrap up , what I'd like to do now is 01:12:59.060 --> 01:13:01.210 just remind folks that this will be 01:13:01.210 --> 01:13:04.830 archived . The the korean Cold War 01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:07.007 uh Andrew government briefings will be 01:13:07.007 --> 01:13:08.784 archived on our D . P A dot mil 01:13:11.050 --> 01:13:13.161 to include the brief laying from last 01:13:13.161 --> 01:13:16.900 night . So at this time to close uh 01:13:16.910 --> 01:13:20.880 this year's virtual uh korean Cold 01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.102 War and the government briefings , I'll 01:13:23.102 --> 01:13:24.936 ask mr McCaig to come up to make 01:13:24.936 --> 01:13:25.991 closing comments . 01:13:31.050 --> 01:13:33.260 Distinguished family members . Whether 01:13:33.260 --> 01:13:36.270 you are joining us live via the stream , 01:13:36.650 --> 01:13:39.260 whether you're viewing this via archive 01:13:39.850 --> 01:13:43.330 on behalf of my colleagues , my 01:13:43.330 --> 01:13:46.560 partners , I'd like to thank you for 01:13:46.570 --> 01:13:49.130 joining us and continuing to have 01:13:49.130 --> 01:13:52.940 confidence in us to do our very best on 01:13:52.940 --> 01:13:55.770 behalf of you and your loved ones . 01:13:57.550 --> 01:14:01.160 You heard me mention yesterday that the 01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:03.840 folks that are associated with this 01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:06.580 mission , whether they be military or 01:14:06.580 --> 01:14:08.802 civilian within the defense . P . O W . 01:14:08.802 --> 01:14:12.370 M . I . A accounting agency , the armed 01:14:12.370 --> 01:14:14.520 forces medical examiner system , DNA 01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:16.990 laboratory , our service casualty 01:14:16.990 --> 01:14:20.570 offices or the services themselves , 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.400 all of us bring an inordinate amount of 01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:27.160 talent but more importantly , 01:14:27.160 --> 01:14:30.450 dedication and passion . This is very 01:14:30.450 --> 01:14:32.920 purposeful work . It's purposeful 01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:36.520 because we firmly believe each and 01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:39.610 every one of us that we are here to 01:14:39.610 --> 01:14:43.000 serve you and your loved ones . We 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.111 began this conference with Ray Kapaun 01:14:45.940 --> 01:14:48.160 and re beautifully described to you , 01:14:48.540 --> 01:14:50.762 his personal experience and that of his 01:14:50.762 --> 01:14:54.020 family in the remarkable 01:14:54.110 --> 01:14:56.820 recovery and identification of his 01:14:56.830 --> 01:15:00.460 uncle , not only an american hero , 01:15:01.240 --> 01:15:04.870 but a hero to the world . That was just 01:15:04.870 --> 01:15:08.310 one example of many . And while we may 01:15:08.310 --> 01:15:11.020 not be able to provide you the answers 01:15:11.020 --> 01:15:14.220 that you richly deserve after decades 01:15:14.220 --> 01:15:17.170 of uncertainty , please understand that 01:15:17.170 --> 01:15:20.810 we continue to try our very best . Not 01:15:20.810 --> 01:15:23.150 only were you able to participate in 01:15:23.150 --> 01:15:26.250 this virtual conference , but 01:15:26.250 --> 01:15:29.840 throughout the last two days and it 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:33.040 will occur next week our analysts and 01:15:33.040 --> 01:15:35.550 our service casualty officers have been 01:15:35.550 --> 01:15:37.550 providing new case review summary 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:40.950 updates . A very important part of as 01:15:40.950 --> 01:15:43.550 you know , the Korea Cold war annual 01:15:43.550 --> 01:15:47.190 government briefings . I can't tell you 01:15:47.190 --> 01:15:50.300 how regrettable it was to have to 01:15:50.300 --> 01:15:53.070 decide to shift from an in person 01:15:53.070 --> 01:15:55.292 gathering because as I mentioned to you 01:15:55.292 --> 01:15:57.350 yesterday , we were enthusiastically 01:15:57.350 --> 01:15:59.183 looking forward to seeing you to 01:15:59.183 --> 01:16:01.290 hosting you . And more importantly , 01:16:01.300 --> 01:16:03.930 allowing us to connect with you in 01:16:03.930 --> 01:16:07.560 person . I'm optimistic that 01:16:08.240 --> 01:16:10.490 with the mark on the wall that there 01:16:10.490 --> 01:16:13.690 will be a dedication of the wall of 01:16:13.690 --> 01:16:15.920 remembrance at the korean War veterans 01:16:15.930 --> 01:16:19.740 Memorial next year that we will be able 01:16:19.740 --> 01:16:23.460 to host you in person as you deserve . 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.270 And with that I offer our 01:16:28.280 --> 01:16:30.770 thanks again . But more importantly , 01:16:31.340 --> 01:16:34.980 the fact that you continue to give 01:16:34.990 --> 01:16:38.450 us the vector , the rudder , 01:16:39.790 --> 01:16:42.470 the motivation with which to pursue our 01:16:42.470 --> 01:16:46.400 noble and sacred work . God 01:16:46.400 --> 01:16:48.456 bless each and every one of you . We 01:16:48.456 --> 01:16:50.400 wish you continued good health and 01:16:50.400 --> 01:16:52.622 safety and we hope to see you in person 01:16:52.622 --> 01:16:55.520 again here in Arlington next year , God 01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:56.170 bless you all .