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Roger .

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The Air Force has announced the

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creation of a new Information

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Operations Technical training school .

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First man simply must arm our airmen to

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outbreak . Outperform our partner out .

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Innovate any potential adversary Air

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Force Basic military training has an

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updated curriculum with the new focus

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on readiness and lethality . The first

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Command , the Air Force starts here .

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Hello and welcome to the Air Force

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starts here podcast . I'm your host for

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this professional development podcast .

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That's how you keep James from the E .

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T . C . Public affairs team . In this

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episode , we were discussing a T . c .

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s . role in fighting through the

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COVID-19 pandemic with former 59th

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Medical Wing Commander Major General

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john J . D . Goes major general digos

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and his team are being praised for

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leading the charge for fighting through

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Covid 19 across A . T . C . Take a

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listen to what Lieutenant General brad

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webb commander of A . T . C . Had to

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say about generator ghosts leadership .

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During the 59 change of command ,

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there's this little thing called Covid .

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Uh they came upon us a little over a

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year ago , probably year and you know ,

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four or five months ago . Now on top of

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all that the medical wing was

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responsible for and JJ is responsible

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for leading during this time frame .

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This , I can tell you will be the

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singular piece that resonates in my

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mind that occurred because in those

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early days we had the Wuhan

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Province american citizens that were

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evacuated , a chunk of which came to

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Laughlin , followed right on the heels

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by the Princess cruise liner American

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citizens as well . So we had a couple

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reps under our bill . But in those days

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specifically , I think it was Friday 13

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March when the order was to shelter in

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place was for 18 . Let me just speak as

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the commander for a moment , the

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defining moment for us right there

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because there was calls within this ,

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within our service to stand down , take

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any shelter in place . Uh In fact , the

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other services that was that was where

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they cast their lot . J . J . D . Goes

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was of the mindset that we got this ,

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we got a plan . There's terminology

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that I've never even heard before . I

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didn't know what rahm was . You know ,

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JJ brief . They were in Rome . I'm like

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great , what's wrong ? Uh literally

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never heard of the term . And the point

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was we we had stolen a march on the

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pandemic probably by I'm guessing a

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week . It might have been less than

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that , but that was a game changing

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week . JJ rightfully correct . Had our

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mindset focused ? This was obviously

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BMT focused but it rolled into every

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aspect of their education training

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command and our education training

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command has from that moment forward

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been postured as kind of the leader in

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this fight through Covid . Now it

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wasn't without challenges . We've

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certainly had the disease present in

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our ranks or the epidemic president our

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ranks and such . But that mentality . I

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mean , you know , if you look at the

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charts of Air Force readiness Without

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continuing to Craig through 800 new

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trainees into the Air Force every week ,

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especially when you don't have a stop

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loss . The readiness of the United

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States Air Force goes in the tank and

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it goes in the tank in a hurry . You

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know , when I think of the 59th medical

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wing , uh , and in fact I , I said that ,

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I'm not sure if I said it first , but I

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certainly picked up on it . I didn't

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say it first when I visited read clinic

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for instance , uh , and saw that , hey ,

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you get , this is the front line

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infantry on this war on Covid . You are

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the front line infantry . And in fact ,

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y'all made that area with the like the

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little reception area for 10 and said ,

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ladies and gentlemen , you're about to

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enter the front lines on the war on

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Covid . Right . There I go . That is

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absolutely right . And that kind of

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mentality has served you all will . It

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has served basic training well . It has

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served our education and training

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command well , it served our service

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well . And frankly it served our nation

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with uh , I'm really , really proud of

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you all for the job that you've done

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during this . And of course I'm talking

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like it's over . It's not over . It's

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far from over . This continues every

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day . Those efforts are monumental .

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Those efforts really , when you have a

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decider going , what are we going to do ?

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Because the chief kind of said , I

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think we could probably shelter and

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ride this out . We didn't do that . We

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didn't do that because you will we do

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that because the leadership here on the

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stage so that's ladies and gentlemen's

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leadership . That's visionary

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leadership . That's trailblazing

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leadership . That's leadership . That's

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built on teamwork . That's leadership .

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That's built on innovation . Your boss

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is responsible for that . You all have

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carried that through . So for that I'm

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telling you JJ you did a pretty good

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job in command . How about a hand for a

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job that

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goes ?

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Mhm . Yeah . So JJ's offer you know for

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his sins he's gonna go to D . C . Now

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you know he had he's been avoiding this

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D . C . Assignment like the plague gets

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caught up to him . He's gonna go beat

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the deputy surgeon general up in D . C .

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J . J . In all sincerity . Thank you .

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Thank you for a job well done . Under

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general Lugosi's leadership . A . T . C .

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Was able to continue training during

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the height of the pandemic by adjusting

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as information on the virus became

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available 86 . Historian Mr Garry Boy

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spoke of generator goes on the modified

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training procedures put into place to

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ensure the health and safety of our

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force and mission readiness . Take a

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listen . I just wanted to say thank you

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for the honor of A . T . C . Because

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I've heard you putting the start on

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this and uh we owe you a big debt of

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gratitude for uh bringing in that

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professional public health perspective

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every day of this operation . We have a

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great team here and I think this is

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really a team story . First thing I

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wanted to ask you is uh preparations ,

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how ready were we for this scale of a

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pandemic ? I know we were in the midst

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of men power cuts and everything was

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kind of dire prior to the pandemic . As

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far as uh , you know , business as

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usual if an A . B . C . And J . B S . A ,

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what is your assessment of our state of

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readiness for the pandemic supplies ,

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testing , that kind of thing . Yeah ,

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I'd say um mix , you know ,

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we , you know , at JBs A have

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a , you know , a required , in fact was

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just inspected by the , you know , the

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capstone you EI event , a disease

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containment plan or a D . C . P . And

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that really part of that is responding

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to a novel infection , whether it be

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flu or coronavirus . Um ,

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and so , you know , I think , you know ,

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we had cable tops , we partnered with

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SAN Antonio Metrohealth district on

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points of distribution . Uh , you know ,

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how we would use the national strategic

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stockpile . So I would say that

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yes , we had a concept of operations

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for how to approach a pandemic ,

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Uh , you know , but we were challenged

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initially by adequate PPE

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advancing where , you know , we covered

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50 of level one trauma in San Antonio .

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And so we we actually stopped all

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elective surgery . So , you know ,

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unless you had kind of an emergency

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thing and pretty much the months of

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March and april at fancy were waiting

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for a giant new york like surge that

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didn't materialist . And , you know ,

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most of the , that part of it was a

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little maybe slightly too conservative ,

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but the justification was largely based

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on inadequate PPE resupplies . Overall

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cooperation and planning was really

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quite good . Um , and I think

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we , uh , you know , brand new

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disease , so evolving guidance , you

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know , and stuff in the media like , oh ,

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you know , your flip flop and well ,

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that's normal with science . You want

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to , when , when you get more

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information , you want to change things .

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And so , uh it took a little while

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before . You know , everybody was

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crystal clear that the benefits

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outweighed the risks . And you know ,

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they said a cloth face covering , got

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you the vast majority of the benefit .

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And so you know , you started to see

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private industry and people were making

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their own bandana things , et cetera .

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Absolutely . And I really appreciate

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your extending on that because I I

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really feel like that was a key issue

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early on . And I thought one of the

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great things that you did originally

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and probably earlier than anyone else

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was focused The health care there at

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the 59th on the pandemic and on the

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emergent uh diseases and the electives

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going away . What turned out to be an

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extremely important decision because

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you were able to save uh ration PPE .

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And it kept us in a position where we

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could maintain training Now . Uh ,

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that's a long way around saying , uh ,

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I know the General Webb had so much

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confidence in the big six and in the

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59th in particular that he felt like we

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could continue training even though it

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wasn't necessarily mandated and it was

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kind of an unknown risk given the PPE

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shortages . So my next question is this ,

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do you feel like you had enough support ?

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And do you feel like the confidence and

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the risks that we took to keep fighting

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through uh , with the pipeline ? We're

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uh , basically a good risk to take .

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Risk of award versus uh , you know ,

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risk and and maybe not

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sufficient reward . Yeah . So

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I was , I thought it was

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a risk worth taking . I mean , I can ,

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I can remember exactly where I was

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sitting in Martin Hall on Friday ,

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March the 13th when the Big Six was

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together . I think really the A one

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side and general tallest had kind of

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said , you know , uh we're gonna fall

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really way , way behind in production .

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And and I think that day was the first

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time I heard General Web mentioned

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fighting through . And so , you know ,

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he appointed , you know , asked me and

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and you know , I told him I thought we

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could fight through that . We had

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experience with outbreaks before large

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outbreaks of adenovirus , you know that

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hundreds of cases , Several , you know ,

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probably dozens of hospitalizations at

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Wilford Hall during basic training in

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the 2006 2007 . And that , you know ,

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we had learned from those lessons and I

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have been discussing this with our ,

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you know , we have the senior

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infectious disease docks in the air

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force . Um and frankly in the army ,

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you know , at both that fancy . Uh and

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so you know , I broke down the risk for

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the bottom line up front was I told him

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I thought that we could fight through .

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I said it is possible that will have

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significant outbreaks that could get to

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the point where we would have to

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temporarily stop . Um and that in a

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large outbreak even though a disease

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which is very mild in the demographic

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that comes to basic training um you

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know , you could have some severe cases

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and in a rare instance there could even

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be a death . But you know , I told him

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that there is no better place in the

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country to take care of severe

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respiratory illness . Then san Antonio

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and bam see has the only

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organic ECMO which is heart lung bypass

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or extra corporeal membrane

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oxygenation um in the Department of

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Defense . So if something , you know ,

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went sideways with basic training

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that we had the capability here and we

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also had much more local

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testing capability than any other basic

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training site . No other place , you

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know , Army , Navy or Marine Corps is

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at kind of a major medical centers with

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major testing and care capability .

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They would have to typically send

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people out then tests out . So for all

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those reasons , I said , I thought we

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could fight through and I told him that

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I thought there were three risks . The

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individual trainee risk , the

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demographics that young people who had

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had , you know , a minimal screen to

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enter were not likely to be in the

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older , you know , health care

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compromise that were more likely to die

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from it . The mission risk , I said was

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moderate because basic trainees in bay .

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So we could mitigate that by starting

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off like half class sizes . So instead

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of you know , 8 50 you know , 4 25

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which would increase spacing . We can

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reconfigure the open bays , change the

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Kochs from , you know , uh Don't put

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two heads her back to back , basically ,

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head to toe . So at either side of the

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room . So it gave way more than six ft

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space . And then the third risk I said

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was brand risk . And the uh if

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you go back to the last pandemic of

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this scope , which I said , you know ,

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was the 1918 pandemic flu , you

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know , that was called spanish flu but

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really probably originated in the

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United States . Was aided and abetted

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by the army troop movements

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in surge to go to europe for World War

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One . And I said , you know , we we

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move a kind of people uh you know ,

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with basic training and you know ,

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there is a risk that if we don't do

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this really well , we could be viewed

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by either the city of san Antonio or

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the world because we send send

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graduates to tech training all over and

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tech training graduates fought to first

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duty stations all over the world as

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actually , you know , worsening the

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pandemic spreading it . And so I said ,

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you know that one , you know , we can

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mitigate that there are ways to do it .

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Um , and so I could tell it kind of ,

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you know , resonated with them . Well ,

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well , well generally again , I want to

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I want to thank you . I think your name

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is going to go down with the Malcolm

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grows and the David grants and Harry

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Armstrong's because you were here at a

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time where it was actually critical

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that you had that 80 C experience and

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you used it and you actually lead

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rather than waited to be led . And you

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helped the nation , not just a to see

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them through this pandemic . So I'm in

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complete off a lot of the decisions

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that you might have made . A hasty

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turned out to be I think validated over

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time and I cannot thank you enough .

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And I know you're going to a place

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where we can maybe help a just a

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country to want to post or your post

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Covid 19 environment looks like and uh

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I I know you're going to continue to

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serve us well . General . That's all I

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have . Uh and I want to thank you for

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your time so much event and just you

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know , again , I think the success , it

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really starts with general web , you

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know , given the opportunity because

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you know that it's not always that way .

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I mean there's different leadership

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styles , et cetera and uh um you

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know I think the creation of the Big

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Six et cetera um you know it's really

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important and uh so uh

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again you know chance favors the

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prepared mind and I had I had a lot of

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good chance and uh you know my past

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my path within a TTC understanding the

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mission being on the T . C . Staff as a

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major between 2000 and 2002 and General

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Horn Berg was the commander and

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and and you know so many other

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assignments . You know seven years at

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Wilford Hall originally for at Keesler

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to at the headquarters and you know

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having the the you know being the vice

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and then the commander here . But again ,

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I told General Goldfein that when he

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came uh you know uh to

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visit the first time , which was kind

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of when there was a little uproar in

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the city when when one of the Wuhan mm

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sits after release , you know , had

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this one hanging chad positive , which

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was like a false positive but was at

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the food court at the north star mall

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in the city with arms . And uh , and so ,

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you know , again , I stand by

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that uh , you know , you you set teams

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up for success and it really starts at

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the very top . And so clearly General

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Webb did that for us . Thank you very

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much . I appreciate the time to add to

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the story a little bit . Uh uh take

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care generally goes credits the ability

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to continue fighting through the

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pandemic to a strong culture safety ,

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strict implementation of CDC guidelines

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and the mitigation of risk . Across our

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training pipelines , recruits are

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tested as they arrived at basic

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military training and those who test

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positive were isolated and given

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medical care if needed , academics ,

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drill and physical training are

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modified but continue to occur . In

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some cases . Virtual learning is being

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used to ensure social distance is

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maintained . A E T C , continues to

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fight through covid and continues to

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encourage elements get vaccinated to

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help to stop the spread of the virus .

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