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Yeah . Hey , Team Colonel Mike Phillips ,

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the 80th air base wing vice commander

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and your deputy commander for a team .

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Right , Pat . And we're here today to

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talk a little bit more about the

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extremism down day that the Department

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of Defense is directed . And

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specifically , what we want to talk

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about is the oath of office . And it's

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a really unique oath because each

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single one of us that's out there

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watching this video today has taken a

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form of the oath of office , stood

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there and raise your right hand and

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sworn to defend the Constitution of the

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United States against all enemies ,

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foreign and domestic . So we decided to

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do today we're gonna take a different

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approach . And instead of just having

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me up here talking about the oath , we

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brought in a couple of your teammates ,

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some of your peers , to talk about what

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the oath means to them and how together

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it makes us better . So I'm joined

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today by Mr Chris Hess from the 88

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Civil Engineering Group . Chris is a

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surveyor by trade , has been with the

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Air Force for about 2.5 years now , but

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to about two years now , Um , he's the

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youngest person we got on the team here

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today , and I really want to start with

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him because it's freshest for you . So

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I want to hear a little bit about when

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you took the oath two years ago . What

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did it mean to you ? Well , sir , when

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I first joined , um , I knew I wanted

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to do something that made a difference .

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Right ? And I was fresh out of college .

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I could've gone to any , you know ,

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engineering firm or whatever . And the

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Air Force really stood out to me

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because they make a difference . They

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make a big difference in the world .

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And when when I was going through the

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neo process , I had no idea there was

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an oath of office . I had No , I had no

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clue . Um , so at the very end ,

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they're like , Okay , we're going to

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take it . It's like , Oh , okay , So

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there's this , um , but for me , um ,

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I'm a very religious person . So you

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make a solemn vow to your countrymen

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with God . Is your witness saying I

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will do this ? I will uphold the

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Constitution . I will defend it from

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enemies , foreign or domestic . You

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bear allegiance to that . And then you

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perform your duties the very best of

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your ability that carries a lot of

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weight . It does . And and to me , it's

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so unique that you , as a civilian ,

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took the exact same oath I took as an

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officer , or even as a cadet at the Air

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Force Academy some 30 years ago . Um ,

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but to to serve and defend , to support

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the Constitution of the United States .

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We're not taking it to one person .

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We're not taking it to a particular

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entity or anything along those lines ,

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it's that document , that document that

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binds us together . So that was two

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years ago . You had no idea that you

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were walking and getting ready to throw

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your hand up . Where are you now ? Two

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years later , what does it mean to you ?

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How does it resonate ? I would say it

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resonates about the same in all honesty ,

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Um , you still , you know , you come

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into work every day and you realize

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you're you're held to a higher standard

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than somebody on on . What I'd call the

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outside is , um I guess the word I

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would use is honor . Um ,

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yeah , you're held to a higher standard

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of honour than most people are . I mean ,

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you think about it . How many people go

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their whole entire lives and never take

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an oath of any type , you know ? So

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what does it bring to your work center ?

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What do you What do you think that both

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does for the folks that you work with ?

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Well , me personally , I would say , um ,

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on my team , it binds us . Um , we've

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got veterans , we've got civilians . Um ,

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and it's that cohesion , that glue that

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really keeps us all one working team .

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Um , we're working towards the same

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goal . Yeah , that same goal is what's

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critical . Because when you think about

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the standard in which we all enter , we

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come from so many different diverse

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ethnic backgrounds , different parts of

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the country . Um , you're here from

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Ohio . I'm from Boston . Originally a

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lot different than what I've got out

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here in the corn fields . Um , but but

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we all come together , and it doesn't

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matter what that background was . Male ,

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female , whatever the ethnic background ,

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the religious background doesn't matter .

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We've all taken that same oath that

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says , this is our constitution and we

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are here to defend it , and sometimes

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that that tie that you know that that

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emotional grasp of it's bigger than

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just me . Mhm . Did that ever hit you

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along the way to realize that it's more

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than just you coming to the team ?

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Almost definitely . I would say , at

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least for me . Anyways , I think the

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design of that oath of office is it's

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meant to be binding on that person's

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heart . If you want somebody to really

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and truly hold true to something , bind

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it on their heart . Um , you know ,

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that way , if they ever lag ,

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the temptation comes to drop

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that sense of duty or whatever . If

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it's in their heart , they will

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continue on awesome . Awesome . I think

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the other part of it to me , is the

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standard that it sets . You know , when

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you come to work every day , you're

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gonna be around a group of people that

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have that same baseline , that

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foundational standard . Colonel Miller

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likes to talk an awful lot about how

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our Air force core values are not an

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entry point , but they are . They are

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the bear . You know that that is , that

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are not a minimum , that is , that is

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the entry point if if you're not

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upholding those core values And to me ,

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the oath is the exact same you have

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sworn to defend the Constitution of

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United States . And if you're not

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willing to do that , maybe you're not a

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part of this team . So that's why we

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have to take that step back and say ,

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Hey , this is the commonality that all

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of us have this approach and that's why

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it's so important today . As we sit

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down , we we kind of take this pause .

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We talk about that oath is to realize

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that the way it brings us all together ,

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you might have a different backgrounds .

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You might have joined for a different

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reason . Um , you might have taken the

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oath once , or you might have taken it ,

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you know , a dozen times , depending on ,

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you know , your career . The reality is

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that same oath is the same one that so

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many thousands before you have taken .

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And so many in front of you your your

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peers , your troops , your airmen , the

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folks that you're going to lead and

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supervise . You're going to take that

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exact same oath . So thank you , Mr .

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Yes . I really do appreciate you being

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with us here today , and I think it's

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great that from the military and

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civilian perspective , we realize just

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how tired we are together . General

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Bunch likes to talk about uniformed and

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non uniformed airmen , and you truly

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represent that non uniform chairman and

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what you bring to the table . So I'd

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like to change things up a little bit .

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Now , instead of just having the

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conversation about what the civilians

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have taken from the oath perspective ,

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I'm going to bring in staff Sergeant

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Ian Guthridge . He's one of our 88

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Security Force Squadron members . Elite

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defender out there . I've known

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Sergeant Guthrie's for years from our

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old days at Dover . Absolutely . So ,

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Sergeant , it's great to see you again

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first and foremost . Uh , and I truly

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appreciate you being out here today .

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So you've been around for 13 years ,

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roughly 13 years . You've taken the

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oath of office three times now , so I

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kind of want to throw it now to you

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Tell us about the first time you took

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the oath . And what did it mean ? So

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first time as an illicit member , you

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know , we always take the oath at maps

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prior to us . Actually , shipping down

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to Lackland Air Force Base . So I'm not

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gonna lie to you as a fresh 18 year old .

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Really Didn't mean much to me . I'm not

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gonna lie . It was just a bunch of

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words just trying to get that step

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through the process . But I'd say the

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oath really didn't hit home until after

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the first deployment going overseas and

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seeing the impact that we do downrange

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and supporting our Constitution and way

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of life and trying to ensure that other

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people in the world have a good quality

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of life as well . So I think after the

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first deployment , I came back and

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that's when I really started to pay

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attention to the oath and that goes

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forward into the second enlistment .

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That's when I really you hear the words ,

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but you don't really understand them .

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And I think the first deployment I went

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through that really helped me

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understand what we're actually saying .

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What's actually happening while the

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Earth or both been recited to you . So

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So like you . You know , 30 years ago ,

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the 27th of June this year was the

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first time I raised my hand . 18 year

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old young kid , fresh out of the city

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showing up at the academy taking that

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oath and a I was tired . They were

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running us like crazy that first day of

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the academy . Um , you raised your hand ,

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and you've got you know , I think it

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was 1200 folks all around me doing the

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exact same thing at the same time . And

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I'm not gonna lie to you . I went to

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the academy . Very . You know , I loved

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the Air Force . I loved the military .

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I love what it represented . But the

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decision to go to that college was

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purely selfish . I knew what it brought

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to the table for me , and I was like ,

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This is what I want out of life . So ,

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like you , it wasn't until later on

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that I took that oath again . And for

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me , Um , it was probably commissioning

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day . So four years later , you fast

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forward and I'm standing there taking

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that oath , becoming a second

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lieutenant , United States Air Force

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and the growth , Um , from the day 1 to

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4 years later , when just what you said .

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You should stop and you take a look at

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the words and you think this is a lot

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bigger than me . So Chris was talking

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about the fact that it helps him come

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to work realizing it's part of the

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bigger team . For you , it was on a

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deployment . So so was it the team on

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that deployment that made you realize

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that the oath meant something more ? It

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was just the overall mission said at

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the time . Obviously , we were still in

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jail . What ? Global war on terrorism .

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And seeing like the actual

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implementations of what ? When we went

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down range and how it kind of all

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stemmed back to that oath that we

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initially took because we're all

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supporting each other . It went with

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trust , honesty and everything that

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goes with that . But it was just , uh ,

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just a combined effort as a whole . So

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So again , we talk about the

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Constitution of the United States . And

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you , you wear the flag of your country .

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You go downrange . Wherein that flag ,

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um and you are representing everything

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that we are right now ? Did you ever

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think honestly , we'd be sitting here

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today talking about it within the ranks

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within the continental United States ?

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Truthfully , sir , No . It kind of kind

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of came out of nowhere because down

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range . It's easy . You know as well as

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anyone else who's watching that .

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America and the world is kind of seen

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as that symbol of hope for a lot of

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countries . So to see the actions that

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took place , obviously the extremist

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actions were talking about . It's a

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little disheartening at the end of the

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day . Disheartening . Let's pull that

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thread a lot , but I want to hear for

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you as a multiple enlist . You guys

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been wearing the uniforms who served

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his country as a defender ? You've been

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outside the wire , so So you put

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yourself in harm's way in support of

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that Constitution . There are folks

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outside our fence line that probably

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just don't have an appreciation for

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that . So So how did it make you feel

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when we started having this

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conversation about extremism ? And you

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realize that maybe this is something we

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need to address honestly , At first it

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was still surprised , like we talked

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about because we never thought it would

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be in the military and still have to

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have this conversation within the ranks

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across the entire D O D spectrum . But

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going forward , I think it's it's

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warranted . It's necessary because from

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time to time . We just got a refresh

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and take a step back and kind of and

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we're looking at here to what that

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original oath you took and make sure

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you go back to the core fundamentals ,

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which is support and defend the

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Constitution of the United States . And

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I like the way you approach that . It's

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kind of the re baseline , and that's

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okay . That's the reason that we have

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you say the oath . Each time you enlist

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for officers , every time we get

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promoted , we say the oath again .

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We've even done it with some of our

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civilians when when we put them into

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new positions that remember Colonel

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Miller doing it with Mr Vincent and

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Civil Engineer Group when he took over .

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So I think it's important to do that re

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baseline , and that's okay , Um , with

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pretty much anything you do , um , you

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know , I've seen married couples that

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will that we do their vows , You know ,

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20 years , I'm I'm coming up on 22

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years . Um , and it's not a bad thing .

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I think it's It's a good testament to

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this is still who I am , and even

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though you know , we talked about that

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first time you took it , compared to a

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couple of years later , you grow with

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it , reaffirming that , re taking that

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oath , taking that responsibility to

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heart and realizing , and for us

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sometimes doing it in front of your

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airmen . It should be an example to

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them to show them it's a lot bigger

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than me . This is us as a team . So

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talk as a defender . Um , what it means

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to you to be around a group of folks

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who have that same commitment . So it's

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It's a great pleasure to come into work

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every day and an honor , really ,

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because everyone has the same mindset .

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They're very goal oriented , want to

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accomplish the mission and do the best

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that we can every day . Obviously ,

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security forces , it's always adverse

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conditions , not always the best

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scenarios we get put into . But the

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people I work with here definitely get

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the job done in a very professional way

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and we're all very committed to each

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other . So I think that the trust that

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we build within each other can be

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pretty much put in with anything that

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happens across the board . That trust

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is awesome because to me knowing that

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I'm coming to work with people that I

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can trust that are folks that are

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willing to stand up for what's right ,

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willing to call something out if it's

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not . And that's that's not easy in our

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environment these days . And if you're

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willing to stand up for something

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that's right and call something out

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when it's not right , um , to me ,

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that's the example . That's what binds

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us together . That is the common thread

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that each and every one of us , whether

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it's the uniform chairman of the non

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uniformed officer , enlisted . We're

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all coming together in support of the

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Constitution . United States again .

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It's not one person in particular it's

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that causes that belief . That's that

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diversity . It's the growth mindset

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that we're all part of this team . And

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as we come together and support that

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team , I know that you've got my back

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and you should know that I've got yours

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no matter where we are , whether it's

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outside the wire down range or right

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here in the United States of America .

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So Mr Hess , certain Guthridge , I

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really do appreciate you coming out

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today and being a part of this , and

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for those of you that are out there .

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We're taking this extremism down day ,

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and we're kind of doing in different

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facets , depending on the organization

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that you're in . So this might be video

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number three or four that you're taking

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on today . Or it might be day number

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four . As we continue to do this ,

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don't let that undermine the importance

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of the conversation that we're having .

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Look left and right , Talk to your

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peers . Talk to your supervisor . Talk

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to your chairman . What is it that

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inspired them to join ? Why was it so

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important that we all took that same

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oath to support and defend the

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Constitution of the United States ?

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Because I want you when you come to

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work every day to realize you are part

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of that bigger team , you are part of a

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cause . You are part of this nation and

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our history is strong . And our

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heritage is just so amazing that when

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you get a chance to go down range when

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you get a chance to go home and see

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your families . And they realized that

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you were part of something that is

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bigger than you , that is part of that

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team . It really is what makes us

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stronger . So folks take advantage of

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this day . It's not that often we take

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an opportunity to just pause all these

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operations and talk about something as

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important as extremism what it can do

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to undermine the ranks and how

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important that oath of office is that

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you took maybe once or maybe three

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times , or maybe 30 years into it . Um ,

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it's really it really does mean the

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most to each and every one of us . So ,

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uh , encourage the small group

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discussions and I hope you have a great

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day .

