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good afternoon . I know yesterday was

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Groundhog Day , but let me start

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today's briefing by saying the exact

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same thing I said yesterday when I

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walked in . I'm sorry , Of course we

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were waiting for our White House

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colleagues to finish their briefing ,

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which they just did . So with that , um ,

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let's get started . We have a couple of

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things at the top first . Today , the

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United States and the Russian

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Federation completed the necessary

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legal procedures to extend the new

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start treaty for five years . Extending

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the new start treaty for five years

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ensures we have verifiable limits on

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Russian ICBMs , SLBM and heavy bombers

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through February 4th of 2026 . Avoiding

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a potentially unconstrained nuclear

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arms race . New start limits every

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Russian nuclear warhead that is loaded

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onto an ICBM missile that can reach the

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United States and approximately 30

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minutes . The United States will use

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the time provided by a five year

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extension of the new Start treaty to

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pursue what the Russian Federation , in

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consultation with Congress and U . S

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allies and partners arms control that

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addresses all Russian nuclear weapons .

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I would direct your attention to

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Secretary Blink UN's statement released

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earlier today for additional details .

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Second , we're closely monitoring

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peaceful demonstrations against the

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appointment of a new rector at Bogazici

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University in Turkey . We're concerned

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by detentions of students and other

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demonstrators and strongly condemned

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the anti LGBT Q Y rhetoric surrounding

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the demonstrations . Freedom of

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expression , even speech that some may

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find uncomfortable is a critical

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component of a vibrant , functioning

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democracy that must be protected .

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Peaceful , prosperous and inclusive

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societies depend on the free flow of

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information and ideas . The United

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States prioritizes the protection of

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human rights and stand shoulder to

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shoulder with all those fighting for

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their fundamental democratic freedoms .

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So with that , why don't we get started ?

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Map ? Thanks , Dad . Uh , just

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on a new start , Um ,

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this is one of these days where I

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unusual day where I didn't really have

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anything that was significantly , um ,

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important . I don't think Thio open

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with , but so I'll start with new start .

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So you've completed this ? Yes .

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Do you not see that there's any kind of ,

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uh , in dissonance in

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going ahead and and and extending an

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arms control treaty with Russians at

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the same time as you're criticizing

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them very heavily for the situation

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with Mr Navalny Onda

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secondly , and I know you were asked

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this yesterday about open skies , but

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also on the i N f . I mean , is there

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any as you look at arms control with

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Russia going forward ? Um , is there

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any thought in this administration to

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trying to return to those ? Well , to

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your first question , Matt , Um , there

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isn't any distance in the common

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denominator the nominator , that weird

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hearing to , uh , in this case are our

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interests . It is manifestly in our

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interest to have a full five year

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extension of the new start agreement .

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Um , you've heard us say this before ,

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but as we engage Russia in ways that

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advance American interests , as I just

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said , we can also remain clear eyed

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about the challenges that Russia poses .

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Even as we work with Russia to advance

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us interests . So too , will we hold

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Russia to account for its reckless and

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it's adversarial behavior . You heard

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me speak at some length yesterday about

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the ongoing review that the president

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is one of his first foreign policy

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actions . Tasked his director of

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national intelligence , uh , to conduct ,

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but I think the other point that

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remains that especially when a

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relationship is adversarial having

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something in place like new start

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something that puts those limits on

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Russia's unimportant elements of

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Russia's nuclear program becomes even

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more important . Um uh , frankly , when

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it comes Thio , you know , broader arms

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control treaties with Russia . You

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heard me say yesterday that when it

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comes to the open skies treaty were

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studying the issue will take a decision

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in due course . But , um to the best of

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our knowledge , still , Russia eyes not

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in full compliance with the treaty .

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Obviously , there have been compliance

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issues with the IMF is Well , I think

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the other issue here is that , um what

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the new start extension does . It gives

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us time and space to talk about the

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broader strategic stability elements ,

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the arms control elements that we would

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like Thio pursue it just heard me say

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in that topper , we will use three

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years that a new start extension has

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provided provided to us to focus on

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those very important issues . Do those

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s o then , and just to expand a little

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bit for further into ,

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uh , North Stream two

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in those sanctions , when you say

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you're gonna hold Russia to account for

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Navalny for other

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other issues are we talking about more

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Magnitsky sanctions ? I'm not asking

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you for specifics , but again , what ?

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What are we talking about ? And can you

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Can you address North Stream two . I'm

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done , So let me start with Nord Stream

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two . Section 2 32 of Cats a thing

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Countering America's Adversary

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Adversaries through Sanctions Act a

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zwelling protecting Europe's Energy

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Security Act are powerful tools that

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help us advance US government policy .

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Nord Stream two in the second line of

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Turk Turk Stream are designed to

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increase Russia's leverage over allies

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and partners on they undermine

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transatlantic security . The United

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States will continue to work with our

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allies and our partners to ensure

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Europe has a reliable , diversified

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energy supply that does not undermine

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collective security . That's exactly

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why you've heard President Biden even

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before the time he was president Biden

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when he was a candidate . Um , say that

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North Stream two is a bad deal . It

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divides Europe . It exposes Ukraine and

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Central Europe to Russia manipulation ,

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and it goes against Europe stated

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energy security goals . So again , this

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is one of those challenges on which

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will cooperate closely with our allies

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and partners when it comes thio

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potential punitive measures , including

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sanctions against Russian authorities .

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You heard me say yesterday that it

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doesn't do us any favors . Thio

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forecast potential targets or even

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really authorities , under which we

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might , um , enact additional sanctions .

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I'm gonna save that for when that

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review is completed . And when we have

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additional sanctions or any other

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punitive measures to announce , we'll

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do so , uh , we'll go with the Matley

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rule and we'll stick with new start for

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it . That's not my rule .

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It's not a rule . I don't know the

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Matley suggestion . I thought it was a

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good one . Eso we'll stick with it .

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Yeah , a U S . It's on topic , but

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they're obviously Askew said Secretary

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Blinken said that this is a bad idea .

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Uh , is it the administration's policy

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that this should not the pipeline

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should not be completed and they will

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work towards that ? I just asked

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because there was reports in the German

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media that they might be looking thio

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lift sanctions . Well , I don't think

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we could be any clearer . It's a bad

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deal . The president Biden has said

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that I think what we can say is that we

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will monitor activity to complete or

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certify the pipeline on def . Such

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activity takes place . We will make a

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determination on the applicability of

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sanctions . Um , all that said ,

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sanctions are only one of among many

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important tools here . And we will work

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closely with our allies and partners to

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reinforce European energy security on

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safeguard against predatory behavior ,

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including that of Russia . In this case ,

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um , sticking with New start . Yes or

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Russia . Thank you so much for this

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opportunity . Recently , the digital

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media news channel B P I . T . V was

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subject to a rate . Maduro ordered the

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station to cease operation in the

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country , immediately threatening our

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team with criminal charges . As a

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result , we were forced to stop

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transmission on producing content in

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Venezuela . What message can the State

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Department sent to the Maduro's regime

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to stop these campaigns ? US . Arrest ,

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harassment on repression , repression

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against the media ? And another

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question . Some nation groups and

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organization have said that the only

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way out off the crisis is to properly

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resume political negotiation to start a

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transitional process in Venezuela . We

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received information that some people

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visited Washington D . C . To try to

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convince the US off a dialogue

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process with the regime , had someone

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with the State Department participate

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in a meeting related to this is the US

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considering negotiations with the

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Venezuelan regime . Thank you . Thank

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you . Well , let me take the

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prerogative to welcome you to the

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briefing room if I'm not mistaken . You

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are Gabby . Pero so of v p I T v um

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Venezuelan journalist who , as you said ,

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your independent TV station has been

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shut down by the Maduro regime . So

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we're very honored . Toe . Have you

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here to your first question ? Um , the

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United States condemns media censorship

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anywhere in the world , media freedom

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is essential to the pursuit of a

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vibrant democracy and responsive

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governance . Nicolas Maduro as a

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dictator , there is no doubt about that .

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And media censorship eyes ah , hallmark

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of Dictatorships . Hey ! And those who

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support him have tried to silence

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journalists like yourself who report

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the truth through regime directed

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harassment , intimidation on violence

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as well . We condemn censorship . We

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condemn blocking harassment , other

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tactics to stifle independent media

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voices , including the recent

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shuttering of V P I . T . V . On

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harassment of six other Venezuelan

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independent outlets . We support

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journalists and other democratic actors

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who are advancing the struggle for

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democracy . Uh , in Venezuela . Maduro

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is continuing . Media crackdowns

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severely limit Venezuelans Access toe

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accurate information As a result , more

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than five million Venezuelans , um

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limited live in a so called news desert

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with insufficient access . Two

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independent media I think the broader

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point here is it Only a regime , afraid

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of its own people , would engage in

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such practices . You mentioned ,

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um , our general approach to Nicolas

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Maduro , Maduro and his regime . We

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haven't had a chance to speak to it in

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this context , I think it zwart . While ,

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um , the overriding goal . The

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overriding goal of Biden Harris

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administration is to support a peaceful

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democratic transition in Venezuela

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through free and fair presidential and

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parliamentary elections on and to help

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the Venezuelan people rebuild their

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lives . In countries in country ,

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Venezuelans have a right to democracy

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and a government that promotes and

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defends it , just like everyone else in

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this hemisphere . President Biden . You

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have heard him say this even before he

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was elected president . Biden . He

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understands the pain that the current

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crisis in Venezuela has inflicted on

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the people of Venezuela . Andi their

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families again , Maduro as a dictator .

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His repression , corruption and

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mismanagement have created one of the

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most dire humanitarian crises this

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hemisphere has seen . Um , that is why

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this administration is committed to

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several principles one designating as

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appropriate Venezuelans Venezuela for

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temporary protected status number to

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addressing the humanitarian concerns of

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millions of Venezuelans with

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international partners number three

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targeting regime officials and their

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cronies involved in corruption and

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human rights abuses . And number four

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again aiding and restoring a peaceful ,

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stable , democratic future for

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Venezuelans , Uh , and the regime both

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through free and fair elections on a

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long term economic recovery . As to how

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we're going to do that . Look , I

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certainly don't expect this

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administration to be engaging directly

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with Maduro , Azzawi said . We will

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work through , Ah , number of way will

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work with a number of allies Andi

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partners , to bring about progress

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towards democracy in Venezuela . We

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will do that with our partners in the

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region . We will do that with our

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European partners and allies will do

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that with the O . A s . We will do that

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through the Lima Group through a number

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of fora like minded for a that share

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the same goals of bringing about

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democracy . Andi , Human rights andan

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end to this corrupt , corrupt

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dictatorship in Venezuela following Yes ,

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administration still believe that Juan

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Guido is the best person to lead the

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opposition of Venezuela . So the United

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States continues to recognize the 2015

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National Assembly as the last remaining

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democratic institution in Venezuela on

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DCA insistent with that the person

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chosen by the National Assembly to be

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its president as the interim president

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of Venezuela . One Guido Yes . Sorry .

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Connections . We'll put a fine point on

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this . You mentioned the Lima Group in

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the OS . What other like minded for a

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Are you talking about here ? Well , I

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was using , uh you know , as you know ,

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a very small number of

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U . N members have have done this . I

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have recognized widow or

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unrecognized Maduro , as the case may

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be . So is there Are there any other

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fora that you're talking about ? Well ,

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eso to name a couple here . The OS has

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indeed taken a strong leadership

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position pressing for a democratic

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transition , uh , in Venezuela , the

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Lima Group way welcome its leadership

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to further strengthen a regional

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coalition to advocate for free and fair

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elections . I was using for , uh ,

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perhaps cloak really bilateral

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relationships , multilateral

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relationship to But I mean , so are

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there more . I mean , yeah , that's too

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is plural . I accept that . Are there

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more that you can point ? Is that right ?

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I said , for a which which were to

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working with our allies and partners .

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Okay , Yes , John , it's not just 2% a

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little bit . Maduro . The previous

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administration said that they're

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basically should there be no contact

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with Maduro other than perhaps on

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logistical things like the status of

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the U . S . Embassy there is this

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administration willing to have any sort

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of dialogue with Maduro if it advances

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the goals that you mentioned again , I

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would expect that our dialogue will be

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with our like minded allies and

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partners as well as with the National

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Assembly one Guido Aziz , the leader

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chosen by that National Assembly . I

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would not expect any direct contact

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with with Maduro again , whom we

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consider consider to be a dictator

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anytime . A . That's the current

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policy . I'm always talking about

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current policy . I don't wanna , uh ,

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clearly I'm talking about current

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policy , but it is the policy . We will

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not talk to him or is the policy we

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don't expect to call him any time this

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week . Uh , I think it's a little bit

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of both . We certainly don't expect any

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contact with Maduro . Um , anytime soon

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again , our focus is on working with

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our allies and partners , working with

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partners in the region . Uh , working

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with Sorry , uh , working

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with through the for , uh

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on Not through the regime directly ,

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but as well . Where does that leave

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Citgo ? Five . And can you also give us

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an a bit of a backgrounder ? On

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Secretary's comments are two families

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of people like , um , the American

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veteran who's been taken by a Taliban

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offshoot in Afghanistan , etcetera .

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I would be happy . Thio eso let me

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start with that second question and

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actually , I will

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offer a little detail . Um , that

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yesterday is I think we read out

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Secretary Blinken held a private video

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conference with the family of us

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hostages in wrongful detainees . A za

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we've said bringing home U . S .

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Citizens in captivity is a priority for

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this administration is also vital that

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we continue to partner with the

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families of those wrongfully detained

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and held around the world . It was a

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meeting that it was a virtual meeting ,

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of course , but as I understand it , it

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included a number of families went for

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about 90 minutes . The secretary I know

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you asked to be briefed on these cases

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is one of his first acts in office .

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And , as you can tell by the meeting

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just yesterday , he's prioritized the

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collective work of this department ,

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including the special presidential

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envoy for hostage affairs . Ambassador

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Carson's . The work we're doing around

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the world to see to it that Americans

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who were unjustly detained our return

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to their families into their loved ones

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as expeditiously as possible way

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talked a couple families who are on

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that call . The feedback was was pretty

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positive , but one of the things that

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we've heard a couple of times is , you

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know , they're kind of asking what this

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administration is going to do

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differently when it comes to trying to

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get those families released . You know ,

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Are you gonna communicate more with the

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families on the back end ? Are you

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going to deal with intermediaries ? Is

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there something that you could do that

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your predecessor didn't do to try to

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bring those people home ? Well , um ,

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look , I think this may be one of those

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areas where there will be some degree

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of continuity . Of course , when it

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comes to our efforts . Thio release

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Americans who are unjustly held around

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the world . Um , it is telling that

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Ambassador Carson's served in the

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previous administration . He's

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continuing to serve , uh , in this one .

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We think it's important that there be

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continuity there and obviously , um ,

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in his role , he's achieved great

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success . I know the families have a

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tremendous relationship with his office .

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Um , eso we're always looking for ways ,

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um Thio be better partners thio the

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families when it comes thio various

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policies . Of course , the Department

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of Justice has a role in that the

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National Security Council has a role in

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that . But when it comes to the office

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here , the special Presidential Spa

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special presidential envoy for hostage

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affairs , Ambassador Carson's will

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continue to engage daily with the

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families . Um , I know that he has .

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He's always on the phone working those

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cases . I assume when it's safe to do

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so , he will again be back on the road

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working those cases around the world as

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well . I'm sure you saw the reports

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that Paul Whelan in Russia is unable to

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reach out to the U . S . Embassy is

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unable to be in contact with the U S

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embassy on he is sick in prison . Did

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this come up with the secretary

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yesterday in his call with the families ?

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And what does the State Department

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plans to do to reestablish that

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communication ? Well , I don't wanna go

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into either the identity of the

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participants or the needs of the

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conversation , as you can imagine , Um ,

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it was , ah , private conversation on

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bits . Best left that way when it comes

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Thio Paul Whelan , Uh , the welfare and

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safety of U . S . Citizens . Again ,

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it's our It's our highest priority .

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Russian authorities convicted Paul

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Whalen in a closed and secret trial ,

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depriving him of a key protection . And

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that is transparency . The trial was a

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mockery of justice . Russian

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authorities does not provide evidence

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and did not allow Mr Whelan to produce

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witnesses in his own defense . Mr .

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Whelan is now serving a 16 year prison

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sentence and a Russian labor camp . We

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remained remain concerned , of course ,

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for Mr Whelan's well being in a safety ,

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and will continue to speak out on Mr

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Whelan's behalf until the Russian

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government finally does the right thing

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on sends Mr Whalen home to his family .

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U . S . Officials both here at the

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State Department in Washington as well

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as in Moscow . Um , regularly speak

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with , uh , Mr Whalen's family . Um ,

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were , of course , aware of his health

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concerns you raised . We have been in

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touch with his family on We're

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appealing to appropriate government ,

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um , government authorities in Russia

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to facilitate consular access . The

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point that if it was a private

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conversation , why did you guys put a

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statement out of Well , we the

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statement , as you will note , um ,

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didn't didn't speak to any names or

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identities or cases . Um , on I think a

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zur colleague just said several the

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families have been speaking to it as

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well . Yes . Yeah . Do you have any

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reaction to the charges that have been

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brought against tanks and sushi and

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have any update on whether or not U . S

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officials have been able to get in

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touch with her Well again to recap

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where we are , you heard us say

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yesterday that what transpired on

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February 1st , uh , in Burma

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constituted military coup d'etat . Uh ,

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when it comes to what we have seen take

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place in in recent hours , were aware

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of reports that State Council on some

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sushi on president win Myint have been

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charged with crimes and the National

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League for Democracy members of

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parliament have been ordered . Thio

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Vacate Capita Um , we are disturbed ,

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of course , by these reports , we

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call on the military to immediately

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release them all on all detained

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civilian and political leaders ,

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journalists on detained human rights

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activists and to restore the

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democratically elected government to

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power a za president . Biden has said

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the military seizure is a direct

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assault on the country's transition to

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democracy on the rule of law . So has

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anyone been able to reach her or other

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leadership in NLD ? My understanding is

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that we have not had that contact and

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about the conversation that General

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Milley allegedly tried to have .

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According to Pentagon . What was the

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purpose of trying to establish that

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call ? I need to refer you to the to

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the Pentagon for any questions about

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what the chairman maybe attended before

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we move on . Have you guys made any

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decision ? Sorry about specific

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aid suspension cuts or is that still

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under review ? Eso we ? Their review is

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ongoing matters you will know it just

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started yesterday . You are right that

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we have moved swiftly . Thio assess the

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fax and do the legal analysis of this

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case . We came to that designation of a

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coup in very short order . But that

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result that review is ongoing will be

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guided by our longstanding commitment

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to the people of Burma on their

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aspirations for democracy , peace ,

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justice , development and human rights .

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Um , continuing our support for the

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people of Burma is more important now

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than ever , even as we determine

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additional what additional policy moves

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may be appropriate for those behind

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things . Cool ? Yes , E one

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e said the continuing support for the

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Burmese people is more important now

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than ever . Have you started a review

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of whether or not the crimes against

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the Rohingya eyes a genocide ? Eso you

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heard a time secretary ? Doesn't

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Blinken speak Thio ?

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Uh , note that he would

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undertake such a review . I don't have

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any further details to reach out . We

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have Secretary Blinken has now been on

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the job just just a week today s So

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we're very early as we have additional

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details to read out . Certainly .

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Certainly will . Anything else and I

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learned a lot of other reviews , though

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Why wouldn't you confirm whether or not

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you've started this one ? I just I

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don't have an update . When we do ,

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we'll let you know . Mhm . Could you

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come in on whether you think China is

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going to be part of an international

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response on Myanmar on any efforts that

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you're doing at the moment to make that

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happen and separately but related ,

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there's a delay in the confirmation of

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your nominee for the U . S . Ambassador

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to the U . N . Is that affecting

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diplomatic efforts to respond to the

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crisis in Myanmar ? Well , on your

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first question , um , I was struck by

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what was in President Biden statement .

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I guess it was early yesterday morning .

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Yesterday morning . Hey , said the

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United States is taking note of those

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who stand with the people of Burma . Um ,

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in this difficult hour , um , we , of

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course , have been working assiduously

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around the clock , both here at the

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State Department as well as in our

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embassies around the world again , as I

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was saying yesterday with our like

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minded allies and partners , to ensure

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that our responses , uh , coordinated

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and that's appropriate , I'm sure a t

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least I hope many of you saw the G

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seven Foreign minister statement on the

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situation in Burma that came out , and

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I believe it was 7 a.m. Here in D . C .

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The u K issued it overnight . Um , it

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was a very strong statement on that was

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no accident . It called three events in

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Burma , Coop , um , it also said we

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call upon the military to immediately

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in the state of emergency restore power

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to the democratically elected

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government to release all those

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unjustly detained and to respect human

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rights on and the rule of law so very

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unequivocal there from our G seven

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allies and partners in this case , um ,

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to your second question , when it comes

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to Ambassador uh , Thomas Greenfield ,

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Look , if we are going toe , hold China

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Thio account . Um , we need a confirmed

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ambassador to the U . N . Confirmed

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United States permanent representative

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to the U . N . Ambassador Thomas

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Greenfield has been sounding the alarm

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on China for decades . Now the Biden

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administration is prepared thio out ,

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compete the Chinese across the board ,

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including at the U . N . And it's

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important that to that end should be

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swiftly confirmed . Yes , it does . The

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administration support the one China

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policy . Eso

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uh oh . All right , now we know it's

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gonna be in no tomorrow it's on , Lee .

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Because I can't answer whether you know

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it is on Lee , because I want to be

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very careful about my language here ,

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but , yes , the answer is that our

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policy has not changed .

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Um , it has not changed . And then

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on Iran , Can you Sorry , I just What ?

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I was teeing off that , Matt . I know ,

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Nick , but wait a second . Can you just

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say that you support that the

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administration's or one china policy ?

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Otherwise , Yeah , well , of course ,

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guided by the one China policy .

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Correct . Okay , uh , the

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secretary has been saying and you from

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this podium and saying , uh , once Iran

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comes back to the compliance , the U .

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S . Will abide by its commitments .

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Under the jcpoa question I have is the

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U . S . Left the deal first . So why

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are you guys saying that It's Iran's

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responsibility to come back into

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compliance before you do . I mean , if

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the United States abandoned the deal ,

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isn't it three U . S s responsibility

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to come back into compliance first and

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then it wrong with follow suit ? Well ,

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I think it is also true that Iran has

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distanced itself from the J c p o a in

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very profound ways , Aziz . Well , as

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we have discussed , So , um right now

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what we're doing is I alluded to

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yesterday . We're doing exactly what

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you heard from secretary , doesn't it ?

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At the time , Blinken . We're

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undertaking careful in close

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consultations with our partners with

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our allies with members of of Congress .

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Uh , there has been a proposition

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proposition that President Biden , um ,

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put on the table . I'm not out here to

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negotiate in public with , um ,

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any country on . We're not there yet .

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Frankly , we're still undertaking those

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close consultations with partners ,

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allies , members of Congress , and and

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we'll take it from there with that with

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that . Include , uh , e I mean , are

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you thinking about the possibility of

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offering them some signal ? Some relief

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that would , outside of sanctions

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relief , that would would send a signal

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about the seriousness of urine . So

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when it comes to those signals again ,

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that's something we want to make sure

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we've coordinated closely and

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calibrated closely with partners allies

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and that we have consulted closely with

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members of Congress is well , so again ,

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this is , uh , today is February 3rd

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were less than two weeks into this

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administration , we were serious when

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we said that we want to take those ,

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undertake those consultations with with

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a range of with a range of parties and

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that's precisely what we're doing .

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Sure isn't the administration's view

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that Iran is about three weeks away

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from having enough enriched uranium for

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a nuclear weapon . And if so , what is

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the assessment based on eso ? Any

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assessment like that would be

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necessarily classified . I know there

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have been press reports . I know there

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was one press report overnight that

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pointed to a six month breakout time .

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I think what you have heard us say ,

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we've heard to say a couple things

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number one when Iran was fully

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complying with the Iran deal , that

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time was 12 months . Um , now that Iran

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has been in a position to distance

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itself from those strict , uh ,

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protocols that strict verification and

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monitoring regime , um , Iran is closer .

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Um , that that breakout time is shorter ,

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but I wouldn't wanna characterize that

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from here . Our goal , um , consistent

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with our goal thio keep Iran's nuclear

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program in a box and to ensure that can

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never obtain a nuclear weapon is to

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make that breakout time asl long as

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possible and to have those verifiable

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measures in place to make sure that

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Iran could never obtain a nuclear

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weapon . So when Secretary Blinken

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raised this in his interview about

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weeks away , he was just referring to

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public media reports . He didn't say

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that . I think you're misquoting him .

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What he said , um , is that Iran , if

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left on its current trajectory , um ,

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could one day be within within weeks .

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Hey , was not speaking about the

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present Heywood speaking about , um uh ,

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continuation of the status quo if left

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unchecked . It's precisely why we're

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approaching this with such great

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urgency again , starting those

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consultations right off the bat .

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Partners , allies , members of Congress

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still in around Yes , you saw the

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reports yesterday that Iran had brought

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on Mawr centrifuges online . And given

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that this is a deepening of violations

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of the J . C p o A . Given that you see

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Israel come ahead of Israeli officials

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close to Netanyahu saying that with if

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Iran gets closer to building a bomb ,

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that it will have no choice but to

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launch the military action . Is there a

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red line in Iran's production of

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nuclear capability that the United

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States would say No , we cannot rejoin

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this agreement . I'm not going toe set

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a specific time frame from the podium .

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Certainly not today . I think what we

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can say is what I said before . We want

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that breakout time to be a long as

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possible . We want to make sure that we

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have verifiable , um uh , restrictions

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in place on the type of activity um ,

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that the Iranians can undertake . Um ,

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that's precisely why again starting

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very early in this administration were

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setting out about this challenge to

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make sure that we can lengthen that

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break out time and again , um ,

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verifiably prevent Iran from ever

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obtaining a nuclear weapon . By my

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question , I'm not asking about a

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timeline . I'm asking about actions .

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For example , Iran has also said that

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it may not let the i e a inspect some

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of its sights . Would that be a red

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line again ? I would point to the

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consultations that were undertaking ,

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um , the sorts of decisions you're

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pointing , Thio , um , is not something

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the United States would want Thio

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undertake alone or would want to

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consider or contemplate alone . We

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entered the Iran deal in 2015 . Um ,

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with the P five plus one . We're , uh ,

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those , um on that . Those air , a set

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of allies and in a couple cases , um ,

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tactical partners that we want to make

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sure we are coordinating with again

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members of Congress is well , so I

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don't want Thio set any red lines from

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here . Certainly not today again .

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We're not here . Thio , negotiate from

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the podium . We're here . Um , toe ,

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undertake those consultations in the

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first instance behind closed doors . Do

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you have a reaction to the ICJ's ruling

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today allowing Iran's lawsuit against

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the U . S . On sanctions to move ahead ?

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I dio I think in the first instance , I

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would say that we have great respect

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for the International Court of Justice

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a same time were disappointed that the

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court did not accept are well founded

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legal arguments , um , that the case

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Iran Brat is outside the court's

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jurisdiction on the court should not

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hear it . While we do not agree with

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the court's reasoning , today's

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judgment is a preliminary ruling , not

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a decision on the merits . While Iran

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may seek to frame , this decision is

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somehow supporting its view on the

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merits . The ICJ's Rule three I see ,

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uh , excuse me . The ICJ's rules and

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case law make plain that a decision on

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preliminary objections does not

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prejudge the merits . In the next phase

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of this case will explain why Iran's

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claim has no merits . We remain clear

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eyed about the dangers posed by Iran's

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malign activities . And that's again

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why we're undertaking the important

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diplomacy , Um , that we are at the

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moment in undertaking those

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consultations that I've referred Thio

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still in Iraq . Can we stay on Iran

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just for one second ? It'll take

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Michelle Good . Uh , news reports said

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that Secretary Blinken has asked Iran

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envoy Rob Malley toe form a negotiating

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team made up off diplomats and experts

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with a range of views on the path

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forward with Iran . Do you have any

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names ? And is the team set and ready

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for to work on for work . So special

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Envoy Malley just started late last

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week on Friday s Oh , this is literally

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day four or so for him on the job . Um ,

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you're right that the

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secretary across the board wants to

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ensure that our thinking that our

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approach eyes never dominated by group

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think that we are always , uh ,

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incorporating , uh , inappropriate

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diversity of views on dove course . Um ,

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that is no different when it comes to

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Iran . As soon as we have additional

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members of the team to announce , we'll

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be happy toe let you know others on on

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Iran . Just I just wanted to get one

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thing straight here when you're talking

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about what The secretary said in his

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interview that if left on its current

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trajectory , Iran could be weeks away

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from getting it doesn't not stand to

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follow , then that also , if left on

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its current trajectory , Iran could be

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hours away or minutes away from

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from developing . Ah , weapon E . I

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mean the

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the longer it goes without there any

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there being any constraints or with

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without Iran recognizing or respecting

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any constraints , doesn't it ? Doesn't

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flow . Doesn't follow naturally that

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they will get closer and closer to that .

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And so this idea of weeks , it

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really could be days . Could be hours .

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Could be , you know , minutes , right ?

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Is that not ? Does not not follow

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Logically , I think the print ,

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if it is , if it continues , sure , you

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can take any argument to the extreme .

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Any arguments , the absurd . I think

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what we're saying here it's absurd it

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all . I think what we're saying here is

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that we are approaching this challenge

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with urgency because we understand that

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with Iran um uh , not currently

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complying with its obligations under

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the J C p o a . Um , this challenge

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does grow more acute , and that's

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exactly why we're undertaking these

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consultations . I know we've gone on

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for a little while . Um , any

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last questions way Haven't talked

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about Afghanistan yet , so why don't we

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Why don't we just do that briefly ? I'm

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wondering if the secretary is now seen

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that full agreement because he said

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several times he had to review was

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actually in it . Is there anything in

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it that surprised him that he disagrees

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with ? And Zahl is still on the job .

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What exactly are his marching orders ?

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Is he trying to salvage What's there or

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are we starting from scratch again ?

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Where you seeing this ? Coming on ? The

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Taliban's rejection of , uh , Kirby's

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comments from the Pentagon last well s .

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So I think , um , it's worth starting

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with just a broad , um , survey on been

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recap of where the president is Ondas .

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You have heard the president say , um ,

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he is committed to bringing responsible

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into these so called Forever wars thes

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wars that have gone on for nearly two

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decades . On Biden administration plans

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to support the ongoing peace process

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between the Islamic Republic in the

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Taliban aimed at achieving a just

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endurable political settlement and a

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permanent and comprehensive ceasefire

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were doing that because we believe it

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is the best way to achieve our

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objectives , were committed to

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supporting the Democratic Excuse me ,

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the diplomatic process that is underway

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when it comes to the U . S . Taliban

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agreement . We're reviewing what has

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been negotiating negotiated , including

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that agreement . The review will

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include an assessment of whether the

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Taliban are fulfilling their

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commitments to cut ties with terrorist

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groups , uh , to reduce violence and to

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engage in meaningful negotiations with

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the Afghan government's Andi other

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stakeholders . At this time , no

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decisions about our force posture have

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been made were committed , as I said ,

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supporting the diplomatic process .

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Andi . We're committed to ensuring that

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Afghanistan never again provides a base

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for terrorist attacks against United

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States . Are partners or our interests

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been running on the entire agreement ,

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though , is that process still done ? A

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ZAY said . We're reviewing the US

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Taliban agreement . One more . Let's

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not get a new topic , Anything else on

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Iran , Afghanistan before we call it a

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day . Your reaction . It is a good one .

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Uh huh . Let's let's just close out in

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Afghanistan , we're doing this every

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day . I should say with the caveat that ,

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of course , we have some

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VIPs , um , coming our way tomorrow so

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we may not be able to do this briefing

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tomorrow , But again , we're gonna plan

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to do this on a routine basis . Uh , so

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the Taliban rejected um , U s

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criticism that they weren't holding up

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there under the agreement . Do you need

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to see them publicly repudiate Alqaida ,

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which they have not done so far ? Well ,

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our review of what was negotiated with

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the Taliban includes assessing , um ,

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not just what the group has committed

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to , but what they have done on what

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Mawr remains . We've had regular

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discussions with the Taliban regarding

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implementation of the counterterrorism

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commitments that you're referring .

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Thio Andi will continue to do so as

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that diplomatic process continues to

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unfold . So with that , thank you very

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much , everyone . And we will see you

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third Friday , if not sooner . You get

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a call . Are we doing this claim to a

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calling ? Thank you . Yes ,

