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- Okay, thank you for coming.

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I'm Hank Giffin on the
East Coast, Vice-President,

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one of the two for the
Surface Navy Association,

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and I'd like to first
introduce Admiral Moore,

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and then we're gonna do an award,

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one of the Surface Navy
Association's really, really

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difficult awards to win,
and I'll go into that

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in a second, and then
we'll kick off the panel.

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So, first of all,
Vice-Admiral Thomas Moore,

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who's dad was my DESRON commander,

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and he was a fantastic leader

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and he ranked me very highly
and so that's why I made flag.

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(audience laughing)

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And I didn't kiss his ass either.

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(audience laughing)

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He wouldn't let me.

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So, anyway, Admiral Moore
is a second-generation

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naval officer, obviously.

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He graduated from the
Naval Academy in 1981.

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He served on four ships in 13 years

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as a surface nuclear-trained officer.

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In 1994 he went to a lateral transfer

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to the engineering duty officer.

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Corps, he served in SupShips, OPNAV,

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major program manager for
inservice aircraft carriers

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and PEO Aircraft Carriers for five years.

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Wow, thank goodness guys
like you will do that work

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because that's tough.

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And then in June 2016, he
became the NAVSEA Commander

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and he's done a fantastic job, very, very,

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just the kind of leader
that we've needed in NAVSEA,

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and we're all very proud of that.

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So with that, I will kick off the award

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and we're supposed to
have Captain Shank here

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as well from Adobe.

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Okay, we'll go without him.

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All right, so this is the
Captain Raymond Komorowski

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Photo Award, do you have
that in the back to put up?

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It's the one of the
Coast Guard cutter going

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through the Panama Canal,
it looks like a painting,

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it doesn't look like a
photo, it's just amazing.

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But it's the first place
"Ship" and Grand Prize Winner,

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is Captain Mark Gordon
from the Coast Guard.

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It depicts the Coast
Guard Cutter Hamilton,

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WMSL-753 northward bound
in the Panama Canal

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crossing under the Centennial Bridge.

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So here's the beautiful
plaque, and it basically reads

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The purpose of this award is

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to recognize pictorial representation

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of the professional activities

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and life of the diverse elements

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of the surface warfare community

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and their contribution to naval warfare.

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They educate the citizens
of the United States

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as to the purpose of surface
warfare and its achievements

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to provide archival material
and to reinforce interest

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in surface warfare professionalism.

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It's signed by Vice-Admiral Rich Hunt,

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who is the president of SNA.

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Congratulations Captain.

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(audience applause)

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- Congratulations.

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- Thank you sir.

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- Photo?

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- And he gets a check.

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- All right, even better.

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- What's my share of that?

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- You only get 10% of that check.

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Very good.

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Now we'll move, bring this panel on

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and do the introductions.

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I think they're all mic'd up, I hope.

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- Congrats.

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- You can sit anywhere you want.

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Just grab a chair.

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This is a little bit different
format than the other

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three or four years where
we sat behind a table,

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I kind of feel like Oprah
Winfrey sitting up here.

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(audience laughing)

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The other thing is, these are
probably the most comfortable

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chairs I've ever sat
in, and I may be flying

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to San Diego when I finish this afternoon,

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and the seat that I'm actually
sitting in will actually

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have someone next to me.

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And so I'm gonna get
used to the room here.

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We are, great to be here,
this is a panel discussion

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on building the future fleet,

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which is appropriate we
take a look at what the CNOs

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of FRAGO is, and one of
its three lines of efforts

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obviously talks about
building the future fleet.

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So, I think we're gonna have a round,

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a nice robust discussion here.

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I'm gonna let the panelists
talk for about five to seven

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minutes max and then I'm
gonna give them a hook

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because the idea is to
allow an interchange.

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They're gonna talk about
what's on their plate,

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big picture things, we'll open
up the floor to questions,

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and ask some questions,
I have several questions

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I've already written down
that I think will engender

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a robust discussion.

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We have the usual suspects from NAVSEA,

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Bill Galinis who's PEO Ships,

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Casey Moton is PEO USC,

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Doug Small, who's at POI WS,

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and privileged again to
have the Coast Guard.

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You will notice down at
the end that we've got

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somebody out of uniform
here, one of the things

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that I thought this year
would make this a little bit

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different and interesting was,

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and to recognize the
importance of the partnership

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that we have with industry
is that we would have

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industry sit on the panel with us.

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And you'll see in the
afternoon panel, as well.

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Last year, the main
panel, we were able to get

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the Thai Commander, we
gonna be privileged to have

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Admiral Kitchfer sit in again.

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We'll have an industry rep here too,

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so just to give you a
different perspective

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on what industry's
seeing on the challenges

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and I think that will be
interesting discussion

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for all of us, so Matt Paxton,
we're certainly grateful

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to have each of you here.

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So, to the panel, we're just
gonna move left to right,

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but I won't introduce you,
just introduce yourself.

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You get about five to seven minutes,

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I'll be timing, a little clock down there,

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the key is to talk about
what's on your plate,

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big picture issues, and
then when we finish,

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again, we'll open up
the floor to questions

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and I've got some other things

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as the moderator going forward.

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So, over to you Doug.

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- All right, good morning.

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(audience response)

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I think I'll stand.

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So thanks, thanks for being here

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and I'm privileged to be here.

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I'm Rear Admiral Doug Schofield,

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I'm the Coast Guard's Director
of Acquisition Programs

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and Program Executive Officer.

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So I'm gonna highlight a
little bit about my portfolio.

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I'm very excited to be here.

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As you've heard, or know,
I've got ships as old

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as 80-plus years old,
Coast Guard Cutter Eagle

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and operational cutters doing missions,

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straight missions,
older than 70-years-old.

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So I've got a big job, I'm very privileged

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to work with industry and
our operational partners

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because it's all about bringing
capability to the field

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and then enhancing those capabilities

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that I have to keep running.

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So, we should have a slide,
to show my portfolio,

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hopefully, but if we don't,
if we can't get that up,

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I'll talk about some of my platforms.

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First, recently awarded a contract to,

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in the upper left-hand corner,
our 47 motor lifeboats.

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These are our big
search-and-rescue platforms

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on our East Coast and
West Coast of the U.S.

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We have a contract up to 107 boats,

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to do a service life extension.

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Really this is a re-powering,
some instructional

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enhancements and electronic
upgrades on these boats.

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Very critical to our
near-shore operations,

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very great asset, I'm
excited to work that contract

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and get those capabilities
back out to the field

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more reliable, and be
able to keep this going

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for many years to come.

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Upper right, cutter
boats, we have both Legacy

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cutter boats and our new
acquisition cutter boats.

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We have long-range
interceptors over-the-horizon

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boats, these are boats
that can go 150 miles-plus,

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long-range communications,
and do multi-missions

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off our main cutter fleet.

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Great interoperability,
common communication suite,

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both DoD, Coast Guard and DHS,

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so very important to us overall.

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We continue to recapitalize those,

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we're looking for our fifth generation

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over-the-horizon boat,

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third generation long-range
interceptor coming up soon.

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Middle left, national security cutter.

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We are under contract
for 11 boats currently,

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we delivered our eighth this past year.

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Great capability out to
the fleet, been working

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very importantly, this is
really a fully interoperable

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DoD platform, we've been
working a lot with the Navy,

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and our partnerships
are stronger than ever

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with that platform.

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Middle, looking shortly to
work a waterways commerce

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cutter, our inland river
and construction tenors

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near coast, I have 35 boats right now,

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oldest built in 1944, we've
overhauled her too many times,

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we need to replace her.

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Cutter Smilax in North Carolina
is part of those boats.

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But very important mission,
a lot of folks don't realize

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how important that mission
is for the inland rivers

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and coastal waterways,
but very, very critical.

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Polar security cutter,
next one to the right,

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we have a contract up to
three polar security cutters.

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This is the real
partnership with the Navy,

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I'm very proud, Mr. Matt
Sermon's running around here,

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he and I together, we're
brothers to deliver a great

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United States capability in
the latest heavy icebreaker

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to the fleet.

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This is a gonna be a great platform,

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great mission set for us.

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Lower left-hand corner, our
largest off-shore cutter

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fleet in size, off-shore patrol cutter,

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got a contract, we're currently
building the first hull

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right now, this is, we're
looking to build a fleet

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of 25 of these, this is 70%
of our coverage off-shore,

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very important cutter class for us.

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Middle, Polar Star, we're
doing a Polar Star built

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in the 70's, our only
operational heavy icebreaker

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currently, she's actually
down breaking out ice

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at McMurdo Station as we speak.

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Great mission, hard part for
us is keeping her running.

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She goes out, does the mission
at McMurdo, comes home,

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we take her out of the water and dock her.

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I need to do some upgrades,
and so I'm working

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with our systemic community in hand,

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I'm working on some electrical upgrades,

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control system upgrades, and
some major system upgrades

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for obsolescence and other reasons on her,

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and it's a multi-year contract,

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and we're very excited to
get that contract out here

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in the near future.

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Last one is fast response cutter.

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Our patrol boats program a record of 58,

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Congress has also given
us funding appropriations

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for four to continue our
operations in southwest Asia,

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working with Navy there
and doing our normal

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law enforcement operations
in the Persian Gulf.

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So great capability for
us, really much more robust

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sea-keeping and boat launch and recovery,

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with over-the-horizon boats,
on those and a great C5I suite.

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So looking forward to
questions today, thank you.

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- Thank you Doug.

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(audience applause)

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I will say that I know Matt Sermon,

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and if you two are brothers,

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you're brothers from
a different mother, so

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Sorry about that.

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Okay, Doug Small, over to you.

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- So, first I'd just like to
continue with Admiral Moore's

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description of the talk show format,

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but he missed the opportunity,
by the way, to say,

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and you get a ship, and you
get a ship, and you get a ship.

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(audience laughing)

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- [Admiral] And you get a
radar, and you get a radar,

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and you get a radar.

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- So I'm Doug Small, I have the privilege

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with Ms. Jill Bower to
lead the nation's surface

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combat systems acquisition
engineering and technical

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organization, PEO IWS.

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Our primary focus, like
any of us, is on developing

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that work force to make sure
that we are always the finest

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combat systems organization in the world.

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For the purposes of this
panel, beyond our current focus

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of obviously the current
fleet, ASIBO 1.0 Fight Tonight

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on time delivery, never
lose sight of that.

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We're constantly driving
towards delivering lethality

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at a speed of relevance.

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Hopefully we'll talk about
it, but the ships of today,

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our job is to make sure
that the ships of today

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and tomorrow are much
more capable by themselves

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and absolutely together

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than their quantities would indicate.

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And that's how they make each
ship that much more powerful

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in conjuncture with every other one.

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So we have a dizzying array
of projects from obviously

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the missiles we're procuring,
just went to multi-year

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procurement on Saturn missile
six, we're going to get

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those out there in amazing quantities.

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Electronic warfare
systems, our goal is to,

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and we're about half-way there,
basically detect anything

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that's emitted, and then jam
it, with the goal of basically

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what we want to make sure is
that any would-be adversary

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sees what we want them to see, period.

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Laser systems are being installed,
lasers are here to stay,

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we're already making
installations on some ships

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of a smaller, lower-powered system.

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We're certainly helping, O
& R's been putting out some

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higher power lasers and
we're well on the path

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to integrating lasers as
a war-fighting capability

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on our ships.

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Sensors, I know there's
been a lot of discussion

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on the SPY-6 and a lot of the
other types of capabilities

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that are being delivered

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with Aegis Baseline 10,

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what an incredible
capability that's gonna be.

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And then really pushing hard
on integrated fire control,

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but the way you get to
lethality of speed is let's use

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the stuff that we already
have and make sure we can use

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any sensor to deliver
any effect at any range

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that we need to.

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And so we've been pushing
really hard on that.

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And a lot of the stuff has
been, we've talked a lot

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about combat systems
virtualization and a lot

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of the tools that we're bringing
that commercial industry

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does like platform and
infrastructure as a service,

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and the speed that that's
gonna unleash for us,

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our push is toward what we
call continuous delivery.

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We want to make sure that
we have the systems in place

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so it's not a technical
challenge to be able to deliver

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whatever capability it is that we need

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well before we need it.

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And then there's a whole
host of other things

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that will help in shipbuilding
and everything else

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when you don't have that
sort of dedicated processing.

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So continuous delivery, continuous ATO,

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so we're not constantly
doing RMF paperwork

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for Admiral Moore,

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taking up all of his time,
and just really a push

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towards speed, this is
all taking on what's in

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that commercial industry.

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So with that, I look
forward to your questions

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and I'm hopeful we'll get
into some of the other stuff.

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We'll talk about ships too I think.

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That's it for me.

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- Admiral Moton, over to you.

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- All right, good morning,
I'm Admiral Casey Moton,

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PEO, unmanned and small combatants.

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Very happy to be here as well
to talk about our portfolio,

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I'm just glad it's Oprah
Winfrey and not Jerry Springer.

15:24.551 --> 15:25.384
(audience laughing)

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otherwise we'd have a PEO
smackdown up here, Admiral Small,

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right, but you know I'm
glad for that format.

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So PEO USC, I have seven
program offices at work for me

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but I really think of it in
terms of four lines of effort.

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So, and I'll talk about,
I'll talk about these so,

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LCS, all things LCS, our
first line of effort.

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Frigate, the new frigate,
unmanned as well,

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we'll talk about that, and
of course, the fourth line

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of effort is mine warfare,
both mine countermeasures

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and offensive mining as well.

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So that's what we do in PEO USC.

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Think I'll hit the first
three mostly today,

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although if there's questions,
I can certainly touch on

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a little bit more on mine warfare.

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So, in terms of those,
the importance of what USC

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is developing to the
fleet, if you think about

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distributed maritime
operations, if you think about

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the future service combatant force,

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PEO USC is producing

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there's five legs, right,

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Flight III and the LSC
for large combatants

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and small combatants, medium
unmanned, large unmanned,

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and integrated combat system, so PEO USC,

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we're producing three of those legs,

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so a critical part of the game

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of bringing the capability to the Navy.

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First line of effort for
LCS, a key part of that,

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the status there, it's really
actually an exciting time.

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I came in as PEO at an exciting time.

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From terms of production,
all 35 ships, all 35 LCSs

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that we're gonna build are under contract.

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19 of those are delivered.

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We're at a pretty blistering pace,

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five ships we're gonna deliver in FY 20,

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and our LCS ship building program office,

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as far as I can tell,

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is pretty much sea trial
to sea trial to sea trial.

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I mean, they are really
in that production mode.

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Ships are doing well, trial
scores are coming in well,

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production hours for the
ships we're building now

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are 30% down from where
we were at the start

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of block buy.

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And the schedules have really
stabilized and predictable.

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Just a lot of great work.

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The other thing about LCS
of course, this is the

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building panel, so I'm
focusing on production,

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but if you walk the
waterfront either in Mayport

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or San Diego, there's a
lot of LCSs at the pier,

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and so a lot of what Admiral
Brown has talked this week

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about mainstreaming LCS,
we're a key player in that

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and are really excited to
see those ships being used

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and to flesh out issues,
and three ships deployed

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right now, the opportunity
to support those ships

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but also the opportunity
to roll lessons learned

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back into the program has
been pretty exciting for us.

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LCS mission modules, a
lot of success there,

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so surface, we're basically done.

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The Hellfire is deployed
on LCS-7, the Detroit,

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right now, down at Fourth Fleet,

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tested off the LCS-6,

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on the Independence-variant
earlier this year.

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ASW, we have the packages
installed on the USS Fort Worth

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right now, we go to IOT & E this year,

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testing has already started,
actually have deployed

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the BDS off of the Fort Worth.

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And then MCM, the aviation
systems were certified,

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have been tested on both
variants and we're moving rapidly

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towards the IOT & E, all
of the systems right now,

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are in test.

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So Nightfish went OA, and Milestone CE

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and U.S., the USV, all
the systems are in test.

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That's LCS, next FFGX,
so solid path for this

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multi-mission frigate,
or as I like call it,

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we don't call it that enough,
it's an Aegis frigate.

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And we are part of that
Aegis weapon system.

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We have bids at hand on
frigate headed towards

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milestone B, and we're on
path for contract award

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this year, so a lot of great
things happening in frigate.

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Unmanned, a lot of discussion
here, but unmanned,

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very early stages, we are
doing a lot of things here,

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foundational efforts, so
beyond just the craft,

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the enabling technology that we're doing,

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the unmanned maritime architecture,

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just really key to our
unmanned efforts, prototypes,

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the efforts we've done with
the two Overlord vessels

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that we have under the OSD SCO program,

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have really paid a lot of dividends.

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Sea Hunter, really successful on this,

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now transition actually to PO USC,

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NUSV, which is gonna be
our distributing sensing

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platform, we have bids in
hand for the FY 19 vessel

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are in source selection there.

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LUSV, now this is one that
there's obviously been

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a lot of discussion, a
lot of back and forth,

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with the Congress, which
I think is pretty healthy,

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I read some history of Naval
aviation and it may not

20:28.810 --> 20:30.660
surprise you to know that
when we first started

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in Naval aviation, it wasn't like okay,

20:32.820 --> 20:34.690
we're just gonna start a production line,

20:34.690 --> 20:36.300
and immediately start building,

20:36.300 --> 20:37.630
there was a lot of back-and-forth,

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a lot of testing, a lot of prototypes.

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So we have a lot of
discussion going on there,

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but the key pieces are prototypes
where we received funds

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for two more prototypes,
which is key to us testing

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reliability and autonomy.

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We're gonna start our conceptual design,

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and we know we're having
a robust discussion

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with the Congress and others
about the weapons capacity

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for LUSV, and I think that that's healthy

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and that's gonna continue,
and I'm confident that we're

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going to move forward with a good plan.

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And then just the last
thing, organizationally,

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the SURF DEVRON has stood up,
has already done great things

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has now taken custody
of Sea Hunter out there,

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so very early in the stages of unmanned

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but I think we're doing
all the right things

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in terms of prototyping, getting
us set up organizationally,

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just really healthy and I think
we're still on a good track.

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So, I'm proud to be at PEO
USC, we're doing great things

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and proud to be part of
this team that's building

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this great Navy of ours.

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Thank you.

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- Okay, Admiral Galinis.

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- Sir, thank you.

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Hey, good morning everybody,
it's a real privilege

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to be here, I'm Bill Galinis,

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and along with Matt
Sermon and Lisa Ridoca,

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have the privilege of leading PEO Ships

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and working with our
industry counterparts.

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This time last year I think
Matt and Lisa were just

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coming into their positions
as our executive directors,

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and so they've just
finished their first year,

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and again, very grateful
to have them on board.

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Just real quickly, kind
of around the portfolio,

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let me start with the DDG-51 class,

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which again continues
to make great strides.

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The ship is in stable
production, we're building

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Flight IIA ships right
now, in both shipyards,

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we're gonna deliver 119
here early next year,

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and then 118 up at Bath,
probably a little bit later

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in the year, so again, both
yards stable production

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on the Flight IIA.

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The Flight III program, '20's a big year

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for the Flight III program.

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We're really heavily into
the integration efforts,

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the land-based integration
efforts at Philadelphia

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where we're delivering a
lot of the power components,

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that's everything from
generators to switch gears,

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and switchboards and
then at the Combat System

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Engineering Development
Center in Morristown,

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a lot of the radar and a
lot of the combat system

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components are coming together,

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so a big year from that perspective.

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We laid the keel for the
first Flight III ship

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on the Gulf Coast at
Ingalls last November.

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That ship is now about 30% complete,

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and you know the production
work is going very well

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down there on the first
Flight III on the Gulf Coast.

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We'll lay the keel for
the second Flight III

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up in Bath later this year.

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So again, the DDG-51 program continues

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to make good progress.

23:28.657 --> 23:32.500
DDG-1000, again, three ship
program as I mentioned,

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I don't think it's any secret, you know,

23:34.723 --> 23:37.210
the combat system activation availability

23:37.210 --> 23:42.210
for DDG-1000 was hard
and to the credit of BAE

23:42.449 --> 23:44.480
and the Navy Waterfront team in San Diego,

23:44.480 --> 23:46.997
we got through that early last year

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and the ship is now well
into the combat system

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test effort, well over
60% of that, but again,

23:54.730 --> 23:56.840
working through a first-time integration

23:56.840 --> 23:59.800
of a complex combat system,
the hardware and the software

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on the ship, really for the first time,

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really kind of gives you
some insight to the dividends

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of doing a lot of the
land-based integration work

24:07.800 --> 24:10.420
that we're doing on the 51
and that's quite frankly

24:10.420 --> 24:12.380
envisioned for the
large surface combatant,

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when we get to that piece.

24:13.650 --> 24:16.890
That being said, the team
continues to make good progress.

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The ship was underway
quite a bit last year,

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in 2019, if you heard
Captain Smith talk yesterday

24:23.160 --> 24:26.030
along with the CEO from
1000, they talked a lot about

24:26.030 --> 24:26.973
what the ship did.

24:27.830 --> 24:32.303
We're on track to
deliver 1000 this spring.

24:33.220 --> 24:36.530
The challenges continue to
be with the combat system

24:36.530 --> 24:39.430
test effort in getting through
that integration piece,

24:39.430 --> 24:42.580
but the team continues to
make good progress there.

24:42.580 --> 24:45.750
1001, going through her
combat system activation

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availability in San Diego,
and again, night and day

24:49.610 --> 24:53.300
from 1000 to 1001, and the
team has done an absolutely

24:53.300 --> 24:55.615
tremendous job of rolling
a lot of lessons learned

24:55.615 --> 24:57.610
and we're on track to complete that avail

24:57.610 --> 24:59.000
again early this spring.

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We'll get her back to sea
and start lighting off

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and testing her combat system as well.

25:05.200 --> 25:07.720
And then 1002 is kind of

25:07.720 --> 25:09.670
in the final stages of construction.

25:09.670 --> 25:12.790
We expect to take her to
trials later this year

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with the delivery most
likely probably in early

25:15.185 --> 25:16.887
calendar year 2021.

25:18.030 --> 25:20.700
So again, that's a platform
that continues to make

25:20.700 --> 25:24.460
good progress, brings a lot
of capability to the Navy.

25:24.460 --> 25:26.730
It's providing Navy leadership,
I'll say, with a lot

25:26.730 --> 25:30.330
of options in terms of
potential future capability

25:30.330 --> 25:31.163
and mission sets.

25:31.163 --> 25:34.400
I think everybody knows a few years ago,

25:34.400 --> 25:39.400
we changed the mission
set for that platform

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from a land attack destroyer

25:41.690 --> 25:43.350
to a surface strike mission,

25:43.350 --> 25:47.130
and we're incorporating that
capability on that platform

25:47.130 --> 25:48.340
as we go forward.

25:48.340 --> 25:52.800
On the amphibious ship
side, the LPD 17 class,

25:52.800 --> 25:55.530
we've completely transitioned
now to the Flight II,

25:55.530 --> 26:00.530
so LPD 28 and 29 in
construction on the Gulf Coast,

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30 is on contract and getting
ready to start construction,

26:05.250 --> 26:10.250
LPD 30 is the first absolutely
true Flight II baseline ship.

26:10.684 --> 26:12.928
You know 28 and 29, we kind
of refer to those ships

26:12.928 --> 26:15.680
as transition ships as we'll
be making that transition

26:15.680 --> 26:19.390
from the Flight I's to the
Flight II's and we're getting

26:19.390 --> 26:22.340
ready right now to, we're
in the contracting phase

26:22.340 --> 26:26.420
for LPD 31 with Ingalls at this point,

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and we're working through that.

26:28.700 --> 26:33.650
On the large deck amphib
side, LHA7 Tripoli completed

26:33.650 --> 26:36.100
a very successful acceptance
trial late last fall

26:36.100 --> 26:38.110
in the October timeframe.

26:38.110 --> 26:42.060
The ship performed very
well and we're on track

26:42.060 --> 26:44.803
to deliver that ship here early this year.

26:45.765 --> 26:48.360
And the big game changer
for that, what that ship

26:48.360 --> 26:51.074
really brings to the fleet,
that will be the first

26:51.074 --> 26:53.280
amphib designed and built

26:53.280 --> 26:56.820
with the joint strike
fighter capability included.

26:56.820 --> 26:59.840
And that really is a game changer.

26:59.840 --> 27:04.840
America LHA-6 arrived
in Japan late last year.

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She was back-fitted with
the joint strike fighter

27:07.410 --> 27:10.080
after ship delivery, so 7's the first one

27:10.080 --> 27:12.790
that will be delivered
with that full capability,

27:12.790 --> 27:16.410
and we'll see that now
on the follow-on ships.

27:16.410 --> 27:20.470
LHA-8 is in construction
and doing very well,

27:20.470 --> 27:23.140
and we expect this year
we'll start the contracting

27:23.140 --> 27:26.050
approach, or the
contracting process rather,

27:26.050 --> 27:29.470
for LHA-9, so we're
moving forward on that.

27:29.470 --> 27:32.760
On the Expeditionary and the Sealift side

27:32.760 --> 27:36.010
of the portfolio, again, a
lot of tremendous progress,

27:36.010 --> 27:37.600
I think when we were here last year,

27:37.600 --> 27:41.020
we're talking about ESB-5
and some of the challenges

27:41.020 --> 27:44.360
with that coming out of
the graving dock casualty

27:44.360 --> 27:45.430
in San Diego.

27:45.430 --> 27:48.620
I will tell you that NASSCO
and the Navy Waterfront Team

27:48.620 --> 27:51.470
just did an absolute phenomenal
job recovering from that

27:51.470 --> 27:54.010
and we took the ship on trials last year

27:54.010 --> 27:57.430
and performed superbly, just
absolutely superb performance.

27:57.430 --> 27:59.560
And we delivered the ship in November

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and she's going through her
post-delivery efforts now.

28:03.710 --> 28:08.710
On her sister ship,
ESP-4, the Woody Williams,

28:09.164 --> 28:13.120
she is finishing up her
post shakedown availability

28:13.120 --> 28:14.463
in Norfolk right now.

28:15.420 --> 28:16.970
And again, a lot of great capabilities,

28:16.970 --> 28:19.530
she will deploy later this
year to the 6th Fleet,

28:19.530 --> 28:22.740
AOR, working with the
Military Sealift Command

28:22.740 --> 28:24.630
and Surfland on that effort,

28:24.630 --> 28:26.560
a lot of good work going on there.

28:26.560 --> 28:28.410
One of the things we're
able to do this year

28:28.410 --> 28:30.810
on that platform, on the Woody Williams,

28:30.810 --> 28:32.240
work with Admiral Moton and his team,

28:32.240 --> 28:35.850
was demonstrate a mine warfare
capability of integrating

28:35.850 --> 28:39.080
the littoral combat ship
mine warfare package

28:39.080 --> 28:41.270
onto Woody Williams and
demonstrate a mission set

28:41.270 --> 28:44.210
which was a very successful demonstration.

28:44.210 --> 28:46.720
So, you know, as we get
these ships into the fleet

28:46.720 --> 28:51.720
and the polar, the U.S.S.
Polar is in the 5th Fleet

28:52.030 --> 28:54.960
right now, and just
doing tremendous things.

28:54.960 --> 28:58.480
You know, we're on a path
to commission these ships,

28:58.480 --> 29:02.000
they were initially
envisioned to be USNS ships,

29:02.000 --> 29:03.280
we're getting ready to commission,

29:03.280 --> 29:04.390
we've already commissioned Polar,

29:04.390 --> 29:06.100
we're going to commission Woody Williams

29:06.100 --> 29:08.660
here in another couple of weeks or so,

29:08.660 --> 29:11.016
and then five will be commissioned,

29:11.016 --> 29:13.020
the Miguel Keith will be
commissioned at some point

29:13.020 --> 29:14.930
in the near future.

29:14.930 --> 29:16.960
The Expeditionary Fast Transport ships,

29:16.960 --> 29:19.195
we're making a shift on
this, we've talked previously

29:19.195 --> 29:22.560
about high speed medical
transport capability

29:22.560 --> 29:25.860
to those platforms, so we've
delivered 12 of these ships,

29:25.860 --> 29:27.783
13's in construction right now.

29:29.010 --> 29:32.820
We're gonna contract for an
engineering change proposal

29:32.820 --> 29:37.160
on 14, EPF-14 which is under
contract with Austal right now

29:37.160 --> 29:39.950
to bring in this medical
transport capability

29:39.950 --> 29:42.950
to that platform so
when they build that one

29:42.950 --> 29:45.260
will incorporate that in
with the build sequence

29:45.260 --> 29:48.970
and then as we contract
for EPF-15 this year,

29:48.970 --> 29:51.780
that will have that medical
transport capability

29:51.780 --> 29:53.220
as part of the base contract.

29:53.220 --> 29:57.630
So again, they continue to
make good progress there.

29:57.630 --> 30:01.540
The Sealift Program, you
know '19 was, I'll call it

30:01.540 --> 30:03.450
a little bit of a transition year for us.

30:03.450 --> 30:06.407
You know, as we kind of
reevaluate our requirements

30:06.407 --> 30:09.760
and the costs of the ships,
the initial cost estimates,

30:09.760 --> 30:13.660
we're coming in higher,
we kind of work with,

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we've got four shipyards
right now under contract

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doing studies and really
kind of starting with almost

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like a baseline, think of
a vehicle transport ship,

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a commercial car-carrying transport ship,

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and then build it up from that
baseline set of requirements,

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to incorporate some of
the unique requirements

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that we need for the
Navy and the DoD mission.

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So think of things like how
do we handle ammunition,

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some of the heavier cargo
that we carry like tanks

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and things like that, and
what that brings to that ship.

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So, and we met with all
four teams just before

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last December, just before
the end of the year,

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they're really making good progress there.

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So we're, so that program
continues to go forward.

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We're also working with N-97
on what the recapitalization

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of the submarine tenders
look like as well.

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So, a lot of good work going on there.

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In our auxiliary and special
mission purpose ships,

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we continue to recapitalize the TAO class,

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the first two ships are
under construction right now

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at NASSCO making good progress,

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and those will continue,

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we're still a little ways away
before taking those to trial.

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And then we're also, we've
got a number of different

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auxiliary platforms that
we're working with the OPNAV

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team on, a new T-AGOS design,
we've got some industry

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studies planned to start this year.

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Another TAG ship, the
oceanographic ship for the Navy,

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kind of a follow-on designed
from TAG-6, this is TAG-67,

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so follow-on from TAG-66.

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And then we're also recapitalizing our,

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our cable laying and cable repair ships.

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So those programs are also.

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In addition to that, there's
a lot of foreign military

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sales work going on across the enterprise.

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The last platform I just
want to touch on briefly,

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the large surface combatant.

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We had a very good meeting
with Navy leadership,

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again right before the
Christmas holiday there,

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we're going to continue to
refine the requirements on that.

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You know we got some work to
do again to bring the cost

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down, looking at the
capabilities that we want

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to bring into that, so think
bigger, longer-range weapons,

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more computing power, more
electrical power on that ship,

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so the team has really
done a good job looking

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at what we're starting this year,

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we were funded to do some
system integration work,

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so the electric ships program
office within PEO Ships

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working with CO-5, we're putting together,

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we've got a pretty good
plan on how we want

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to try to really start
recapitalizing a little bit

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some of the test elements that
we have up in Philadelphia

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to establish an integrated
propulsion plant,

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an electric propulsion plant
test facility up there,

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so that work is going on,
we'll see more progress

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on that as we get deeper into 2020.

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So we continue to work that program.

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And, with that, I'll turn it over.

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- Okay.

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All right, Matt Paxton.

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- Well Admiral, thank you so much.

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It's an honor for Prime
Industry to be part of

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this family, as the lone civilian up here,

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I'm gonna make my comments brief.

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I got three quick slides,
I just want to give

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some background on the trade
association I represent.

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I'm Matthew Paxton,

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President of the Shipbuilders
Council of America.

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Next slide please.

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So, our membership consists
of 40 shipyard companies

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that own and operate about
83 shipyard facilities

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across the United States.

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We have 105 supplier companies.

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They represent the supply
chain of the shipyard industry

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and they're really, really integral

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to what our trade association does.

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In addition we work very
closely in strategic partnership

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with our ship repair associations.

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So we work with all the home
ports on ship repair issues,

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in fact, we were meeting
yesterday on maintenance

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and modernization issues for the Navy.

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So that's the make-up of
the Trade Association.

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Next slide please.

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I put this slide up
here because a lot of my

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Board of Directors are in this room.

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(audience laughing)

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They're watching me.

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But I point my Board of
Directors out because

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the diversity of which this Board is,

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but also because they're active.

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You'll notice we have
three supplier companies

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on our Board, and that's the
wisdom of our active Board

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that said listen, our
supply chain is absolutely

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critical, we need their
inputs at the highest level

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of the trade association.

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So we have three supplier
companies that sit on our Board.

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Next slide please.

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So beyond Navy shipbuilding,
which we care tremendously

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about and are active in
obviously, we build other

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shipyard programs, and our
shipyards compete vigorously

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in these other government
shipbuilding programs.

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Obviously, we build every
class of Coast Guard vessel,

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we work on Army watercraft,
we work on NOAH ships,

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but the one program we really
want to see get kick-started

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is recapitalization of the training ships

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for our maritime academies.

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We heard Administrator Buzby
talk a little bit about

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this earlier today, but
we really need to get on

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to the business of building
the national security

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multi-mission vessel.

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It's a game changer in
what we can do with our

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merchant mariners, so we
really want to see that

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program go forward.

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And the last thing I'd point out is this.

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It's really really critical.

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Our Board fully supports the Jones Act.

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We need to have that
commercial-industrial base.

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If we don't have that to help
support the supply chain,

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to help support what we're
doing in our Navy shipyards,

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building our Coast Guard
assets, almost every one

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of our shipyards that is
building a Coast Guard asset,

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cut their teeth on commercial work.

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So we really need to maintain
that industrial base.

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So on behalf of private industry,
I'm grateful to be here,

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Admiral, and I look forward to discussion.

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- Yeah, thanks Matt, appreciate it.

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- Okay, so we're in the
section where you can

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come up and ask questions.

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While the first person's
trying to get up to the mic,

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I'll get us started with
a couple of questions.

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Thanks for those remarks
Matt, I think we'll stay

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with one of the things
you talked about there,

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you mentioned supply industrial base,

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second tier, third tier
below the prime shipholders,

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I think it's a challenge for all,

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I'm gonna throw this
question out to everybody

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on the panel, as we try and grow the size

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of the force to 355,
we tend to focus a lot

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of our efforts on the Tier One builders,

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but clearly we've got some
challenges on supply base

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as well, so I'd like you
to discuss some examples

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and recommendations, some
things that we should be

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achieving to ensure we've got
a more robust supply chain

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supporting the ship
building going forward.

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- I'll start it off, Admiral.

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You know we obviously care
greatly about Navy ship building.

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That's why we're here today.

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But if I was looking out
there tell you what I thought

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was concerning me,

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I would say it's large
commercial vessel construction.

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And what if another
shipyard were to go away.

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We need to have as much
competition as we possibly can

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so we need to see, as an
industry, we're very proud

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of the fact that we've
built out the tanker fleet

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at the height of the oil boom.

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Immediately we had to pivot
and start building tankers

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for that oil market and we did it,

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and we built that market out successfully.

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Right now our shipyards are
completing the build-out

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of the railroads and container
ships of the non-contiguous

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fleets, we heard Admiral
Buzby talk about this earlier,

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we have 99 ships, large
ocean-going ships in the commercial

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fleet, it's really important
that we maintain that

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commercial-industrial base,
if that were to go away,

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it becomes harder and
harder to justify hey,

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we got to build things here.

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So the one thing I
would say to this panel,

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we do think recapitalization
of the auxiliary fleet

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is critical, the CHAMP ship
is not a $1.2 billion ship,

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it can become a much, much
cost-effective ship if we have

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serious production, if we
get the requirements right,

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and we have a long horizon
to build that ship out.

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I think the industrial base
will step up and there will be

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some yards that might not
be building Navy ships,

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that will jump in and compete

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for that auxiliary recapitalization.

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- Thanks, anybody else on
supply chain management?

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- Yes sir, I'll take.

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So one of the things we've
done in PEO Ships is,

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again working with our shipyard,

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the major shipyards that
we have contracts with.

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Looking into some of the
major system components

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and equipment suppliers
is where we have seen

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areas to potentially
improve them, have been able

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to actually make some,
I'll say a limited amount

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of investment, to improve
through-put in the capacity

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for some of these suppliers.

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But I will tell you, with this effort,

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it's kind of demonstrated to us,

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is we probably need to do,

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I'll say a better job of
working with the shipyards.

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So the shipyards generally
have the contracts in place

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with the supply chain.

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We generally work through the shipyards,

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but there's probably a little
bit more that we can do

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maybe in terms of
strengthening the supply chain

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and really getting a
better assessment of where

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some of our challenge areas are.

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The submarine community has done, I think,

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a pretty good job of
this, you know, PEO Subs

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started under Mike
Javley, now Scott Papano,

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and Dave Goggins have
kind of taken that on.

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They've done a really good
job kind of looking across

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the submarine supply base.

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We're kind of leveraging that and working

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with Secretary Geurts and Desmond ships

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in particular to kind of expand that focus

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a little bit within PEO Ships.

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So that's an effort we
really, we kind of started

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a little bit in 2019,
we've got some more plans

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for that in 2020.

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- Okay, thanks.

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- Just to briefly add on
that, so first of all,

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we're involved in that
effort, so with a couple

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of key shipbuilding programs.

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We're gonna work closely
obviously with PEO Ships,

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so that it's a holistic
look, and have done that

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in the past, and part of the RDA efforts

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that Admiral Galinis mentioned as well.

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I mean just for a frigate,
this was a pretty interesting

40:28.880 --> 40:33.610
discussion that we had as
part of the authorization

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appropriations process this
year and the domestic sourcing

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provisions for frigate.

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I think we said all along
that we were very supportive

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of the policy of moving to
the more robust domestic

40:44.780 --> 40:47.440
base, we wanted to do it in
such a way that we were able

40:47.440 --> 40:52.440
to keep frigate on-track so
that because of its importance.

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I think where we ended
up was a pretty good way

40:56.500 --> 41:00.610
of doing that as far as
we do have a set limit

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with the 11th frigate,
but we have a requirement

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to look at accelerating
which we take very seriously.

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So, I think frigate was at
a good place but we've got

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more work to do there that we sign up.

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And I guess the last thing
I'll say is the conversations

41:13.520 --> 41:18.520
with the shipbuilders for sure, but with,

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obviously not on contractual
matters, but talking

41:22.150 --> 41:24.930
to the suppliers has been
really helpful to me,

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individual companies.

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I had a pretty robust
discussion a month or so ago

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with the American Shipbuilding
Suppliers Association

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which was really interesting.

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I got a lot of great feedback from them.

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I think they heard my
perspective so just having

41:40.850 --> 41:43.300
that conversation I think
is a key piece as well.

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- Okay.

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Let me, I think the first
person that was brave enough

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to stand up is over here by the
podium, so sir, over to you.

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(audience member off mic)

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- All right I'll just use my swell voice.

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- It's on now.

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- Good, now I'm yelling in it.

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So Tom Weatherall,
General Dynamics NASSCO,

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this is for Matt.

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Last year the 30 year shipbuilding plan

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in the auxiliary section,

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Navy indicated that
their reason for delaying

42:18.060 --> 42:20.220
the start of the Sealift Program

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beyond the congressionally
mandated date was the result

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of quote the struggling
commercial shipbuilding industry

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unquote, and I'm wondering
if you might give us

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your perspective on that
and tell us specifically

42:37.990 --> 42:39.593
how the SCA reacted to it.

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- Well thank you Tom.

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First of all, we know
there's healthy competition

42:45.720 --> 42:49.160
for every SEN dollar, and
we are grateful for the last

42:49.160 --> 42:52.200
several years of robust
funding that's gone

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to the SEN account.

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We find it discouraging
that auxiliary ships

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are always one year outside the fitup.

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We would like to see us
to get on to the business

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of doing that.

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I understand how difficult
it is with the scarce dollars

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and some of the assets that
we have to recapitalize.

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I would say private industry is proud,

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proud of what we do across the waterfront.

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I think NASSCO's a great
example of the hustle

43:17.490 --> 43:19.470
that can go on sometimes
where you're out there

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hustling for commercial
work and you went a month

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without Navy work, and you're
able to bridge that gap

43:24.370 --> 43:25.420
with commercial work.

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So I think that's kind of
the message that we want

43:28.020 --> 43:31.010
to bring from the private
sector is that we benchmark

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ourselves against international standards,

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we're not sitting here idly by saying hey

43:35.170 --> 43:38.030
we're gonna get a contract and make good.

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We're trying to improve, we're the country

43:40.098 --> 43:42.760
that build the first
LNT-powered container ship.

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That happened here
because of our innovation.

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So I think we do have
struggles across the waterfront

43:49.130 --> 43:50.880
in some of the industrial base aspects,

43:50.880 --> 43:54.740
there are pinch-points,
but I do think we are doing

43:54.740 --> 43:58.340
everything we can under the
auspices of the Jones Act,

43:58.340 --> 44:00.730
under the auspices of the
government shipbuilding programs

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that we compete vigorously for.

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We gave up the cost differential
subsidy in the 1980's

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and ceded a lot of territory
to the international market.

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Asian shipyards did not
own 90% of the market share

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in the 1980's.

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They do now.

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And so we, as a fundamental
matter, have to look at

44:19.540 --> 44:22.760
do we want to make shipbuilding
in our ship industrial

44:22.760 --> 44:24.750
base a national prerogative,
a national priority,

44:24.750 --> 44:26.530
I think we do when it
comes to Navy shipbuilding,

44:26.530 --> 44:28.840
I think we do when it comes
to Coast Guard shipbuilding.

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I think we need to make
that a larger statement

44:31.470 --> 44:33.870
when we go out to the
commercial side of things.

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- Mark.

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- [Mark] Good morning, Admiral.

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This is somewhat
tangentially tied in to the

44:41.890 --> 44:45.710
industrial base, but one
of the ways historically

44:45.710 --> 44:49.100
to broaden that industrial
base as well as to build

44:49.100 --> 44:51.290
partnerships and alliances
to have robust foreign

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military sales programs.

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Admiral Moton, you've
got multi-mission surface

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combatant program, that
with our Saudi partners,

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if I could just ask kind of in a line,

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Admiral Small, Admiral
Moton, Admiral Galinis,

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what of your emerging
programs in each of your PEOs

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do you see as having the
best potential for foreign

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military sales partnership
programs and FMS cases,

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and in the case of Admiral
Moton, with multi-mission

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surface combatant, do you
see additional potential

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partner nations signing up for that?

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- Okay, you want to go first?

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- I mean, we take our international,

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deepening those partnerships,
very, very seriously

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and we, our view is we want to be able,

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when our Navies work
together, we don't want them

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to be interoperable, we
want them to be integrated.

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And so we take the approach
of basically everything

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that we're working on, we
want to be able to share

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with our partners, and that's,

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so certainly standard
missile has a long history

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of, there's a lot of
international interest in that,

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the Nex variant of standard
missiles, same thing,

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we're working on that.

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Aegis, we have Aegis
suites around the world,

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those are Navies that you
know, operate seamlessly

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together, so the more we
can continue to do that,

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so Aegis is one we're constantly working.

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It's really about everything.

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Electronic warfare, we work
together with many nations

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and it's not just FMS,
there's plenty of DCS,

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we have a lot of cooperative
development activities,

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at the highest levels of technology

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across the, certainly with
Five Eyes and the rest

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of our friends and
allies around the world.

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So, we have a very healthy
FMS and cooperative portfolio.

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- So, first you're first
question as you mentioned

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we have four multi-mission
service combatants

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under contract right now
for the Saudi Arabian Navy.

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Under contract with Lockheed Martin,

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Fincantieri Marinette
Marine is their builder.

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We've cut steel, we're into
production, independentized

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that contract back
December, that's going well.

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You asked me directly about the potential

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for additional there,
from additional countries.

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We've had some interest from
a couple of other countries

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that have asked for some
input, I don't think frankly

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any of those requests are at the stage yet

47:46.730 --> 47:50.700
where I'm ready to name
names, so I won't do that,

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but we have had some additional interest

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that we're looking at.

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As far as future capability, you know,

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there's a pretty broad
frigate market out there,

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we'll see what happens,
our focus in PEO USC

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on frigate right now is,
the conceptual design

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is done so we are focused on
being ready to start that.

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DeDelmozado and Mazdo will
be and with that source

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selection, so certainly for the future,

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there is probably likely to
be some discussions there.

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And our ability to have
sort of set up an ability

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to do that kind of FMS work
I think is an advantage.

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On the last piece I wanted
to mention was unmanned.

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So there is a lot of interest on unmanned,

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both on the USV side and the UUB side

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from multiple countries.

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We work very closely
with our close allies,

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we are a working on, the
broader Navy is working on

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the policy document that's
going to govern release

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of things unmanned, that's
something that's in progress

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right now, so we're
getting set up for that.

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And we also are doing a
lot of cooperative research

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and development, we participated,
we were one of the lead

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participants in NATO ran an
unmanned exercise this year

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a few months ago in Portugal
that was really effective.

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Multiple unmanned vessels
from different countries

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integrated so...

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I think there's definitely
future in unmanned,

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all the way from, probably
more likely on the smaller

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craft, but a broad interest
based on the questions

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that we're getting.

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So I think there's a
lot of potential there.

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- Yeah, I'll start with
some of the work that we do

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in our foreign military
sales organization already

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with the Navy International
Program Office with NIPO.

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So we do a lot of work,
principally in kind of

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obviously the smaller
boats, these are patrol boat

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sized, but we'll get the
requirements from foreign

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countries and we'll contract
directly with shipyards

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here in the United States,
again, probably more

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on the smaller size, patrol boat size.

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You know, I would say
occasionally we get questions

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on some of our larger
platforms but I can't say

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there've been any consistent
or any consistent interest

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in platforms like an LBD
or some of the larger ships

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that we're building.

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The other area potentially,
some of the commercial-based

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auxiliary Sealift ships,
the Navy again, so we've had

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again a couple of inquiries,
we're still obviously

50:34.420 --> 50:37.810
very, very early in the
Sealift recapitalization effort

50:37.810 --> 50:41.770
but depending on how that
shakes out there might

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be some interest there.

50:43.770 --> 50:45.632
Our principle interface
with other countries

50:45.632 --> 50:47.150
and everything is really
through our Foreign Military

50:47.150 --> 50:51.080
Sales Organization on the
patrol boat size boats

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that we build for them.

50:52.300 --> 50:53.480
- [Audience Member] Thank you, John Harper

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with National Defense Magazine.

50:55.170 --> 50:58.640
Admiral Galinis, you
mentioned the DDG-1000.

50:58.640 --> 51:01.330
Can you flesh out or provide more details

51:01.330 --> 51:03.340
about some of the changes
that are being made

51:03.340 --> 51:05.750
to accommodate that surface strike mission

51:08.320 --> 51:11.051
and just from a production perspective,

51:11.051 --> 51:11.884
if Navy leadership and
Congress decided to buy more

51:14.336 --> 51:18.293
than three DDG-1000's,
would that be feasible

51:18.293 --> 51:20.328
from an industrial base
or program perspective?

51:20.328 --> 51:21.522
- So, let me, I'll
start with the last part

51:21.522 --> 51:22.355
of your question first,

51:22.355 --> 51:24.400
which is a follow on DDG-1000.

51:24.400 --> 51:25.960
I would tell you right now there's no plan

51:25.960 --> 51:28.483
to extend the class beyond the three ships

51:28.483 --> 51:32.590
that we either delivered or
have in construction right now.

51:32.590 --> 51:37.590
And then, in terms of the
strike piece, you know,

51:38.290 --> 51:42.361
we're looking at some
new weapon systems, okay,

51:42.361 --> 51:47.361
SM-6, advanced versions
of Tomahawk, some mission

51:47.670 --> 51:51.230
planning capability to improve
mission planning capability

51:51.230 --> 51:53.640
on the ship, those are the
principle areas that get us

51:53.640 --> 51:57.520
to that strike variant, if you will,

51:57.520 --> 51:58.723
or that new mission set.

52:00.350 --> 52:02.120
The other thing that I would add again,

52:02.120 --> 52:05.723
just the size of the ship,

52:06.590 --> 52:08.330
we've done a lot of
testing on the hull form,

52:08.330 --> 52:11.230
there was some early
concerns about how the ship

52:11.230 --> 52:12.740
would handle in heavy weather.

52:12.740 --> 52:14.860
I would tell you we're
more than half-way through

52:14.860 --> 52:18.760
that testing, that's going
very well, so that platform,

52:18.760 --> 52:22.102
the size of the platform, the
electric plant that it has,

52:22.102 --> 52:25.810
it does provide a lot of options
I think for Navy leadership

52:25.810 --> 52:28.760
as we kind of think our way
through that a little bit more.

52:29.689 --> 52:32.140
- [Audience Member] What are
you plans for integrating

52:32.140 --> 52:35.723
directed energy (muffled)?

52:37.352 --> 52:39.418
- I probably couldn't
touch on that too much.

52:39.418 --> 52:44.010
I mean, again, it gets
back to some of the options

52:44.010 --> 52:47.683
that the ship design, the
power architecture provide,

52:50.320 --> 52:52.010
it's possible we could
put something on there,

52:52.010 --> 52:55.393
but I don't want to talk
about that right now.

52:56.466 --> 52:57.410
- Yeah, we're going to operate this panel

52:57.410 --> 52:59.810
under the premise of make
news but not new news

52:59.810 --> 53:01.355
here today, so

53:01.355 --> 53:02.627
(audience laughing)

53:02.627 --> 53:04.850
as much as possible, I
learned a lesson from Sean's

53:04.850 --> 53:05.810
tactic a couple years ago.

53:05.810 --> 53:06.820
Doug, please.

53:06.820 --> 53:08.940
- I just wanted to follow up
on the surface strike thing.

53:08.940 --> 53:12.020
So our ability to deliver
that type of capability

53:12.020 --> 53:15.230
to Zumwalt is really part
of the larger strategy

53:15.230 --> 53:20.230
the Navy has of making our
missile systems more offensive,

53:20.530 --> 53:25.150
and so the fact that we have
an offensive strike capability

53:25.150 --> 53:29.030
in missiles that fit within
the inherently modular

53:29.030 --> 53:31.790
launchers on Zumwalt allows
us to bring that capability.

53:31.790 --> 53:35.600
So it's not a huge stretch
I guess is the point.

53:35.600 --> 53:40.100
It's really about as
these ships get operated

53:40.100 --> 53:42.260
more and more we learn about
all of these incredible

53:42.260 --> 53:47.260
capabilities, there's a lot
of flexibility and modularity

53:47.780 --> 53:50.180
for us to be able to take
on missions like that.

53:51.780 --> 53:52.613
Hope that helps.

53:55.990 --> 53:58.450
- So Vice Admiral Moore,
I'm Francis Spencer

53:58.450 --> 54:00.490
and I'm with Philadelphia Gear.

54:00.490 --> 54:03.890
Appreciate a point that
you raised at the beginning

54:03.890 --> 54:07.410
of the Q & A about major
component suppliers

54:07.410 --> 54:10.470
and the health of the
overall industrial base.

54:10.470 --> 54:14.020
In the main reduction gear
market, we are fortunate

54:14.020 --> 54:17.440
to be owned by a Fortune 500 corporation,

54:17.440 --> 54:21.160
the Timpkin Company, our
company, Philadelphia Gear

54:21.160 --> 54:25.200
is stable, well-funded, but the production

54:25.200 --> 54:28.750
of our product does depend
upon a large universe

54:28.750 --> 54:31.090
of suppliers within the domestic market

54:31.090 --> 54:34.552
and they are not all
blessed with the same degree

54:34.552 --> 54:37.610
of financial resources.

54:37.610 --> 54:39.220
I know that's something
that Under-Secretary

54:39.220 --> 54:42.250
of Defense Lord has
expressed a concern about,

54:42.250 --> 54:46.040
national capabilities
that are occasionally

54:46.040 --> 54:49.170
in limited supply, things
like suppliers of large ring

54:49.170 --> 54:52.510
forgings, things like
heat-treating for large

54:52.510 --> 54:55.760
metallic components, and
the way that you keep

54:55.760 --> 55:00.760
that healthy is by having
an order book that those

55:01.480 --> 55:05.000
companies that are one tier
below us can depend upon

55:05.000 --> 55:07.360
and that does depend on shipbuilding.

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Appreciate you bringing
it up and I would ask

55:10.420 --> 55:14.450
Admiral Moton and Admiral
Galinis what your thoughts are

55:14.450 --> 55:18.560
on the source selection
processes for future shipbuilding

55:18.560 --> 55:23.560
programs and how much
emphasis is placed on price

55:23.790 --> 55:26.320
versus other factors in source selection

55:26.320 --> 55:29.600
and what the implications
are for the industrial base.

55:29.600 --> 55:30.433
Thank you.

55:32.511 --> 55:33.761
- You go first.

55:37.310 --> 55:40.734
- You know, from my perspective,
because this was a topic

55:40.734 --> 55:43.910
of discussion on Frigate Day.

55:43.910 --> 55:46.870
First of all, every source
selection is different.

55:46.870 --> 55:51.210
So there's not a stock answer
that I'm going to give you

55:51.210 --> 55:53.500
how I think the criteria should weigh out,

55:53.500 --> 55:56.540
it's all carefully considered
based on the requirement

55:58.993 --> 56:01.070
and the potential industrial
base and all that, right.

56:01.070 --> 56:03.460
So if you're looking for
I think we should do that,

56:03.460 --> 56:04.923
I will not do that, right?

56:06.689 --> 56:11.440
So should we consider
domestic industrial base

56:11.440 --> 56:13.400
as part of source selection
I think is kind of

56:13.400 --> 56:15.360
part of the question you're asking.

56:15.360 --> 56:18.563
I personally think it's
an idea worth looking at.

56:21.797 --> 56:24.580
I'm definitely not ready to
set any new policy here today,

56:24.580 --> 56:29.580
have a war, but in terms
of, we had the goal,

56:29.990 --> 56:32.580
we set it and set it for
frigate and we have the goal

56:32.580 --> 56:34.940
of increasing the domestic industrial base

56:34.940 --> 56:37.460
and I personally think that
we could look at all ways

56:37.460 --> 56:39.820
to do that, and there's
the analysis and things

56:39.820 --> 56:41.500
that we talked about.

56:41.500 --> 56:43.810
If there's things that we
need to look at potentially

56:43.810 --> 56:48.060
in how we set up our solicitations,

56:48.060 --> 56:50.760
I absolutely think we should look at that.

56:50.760 --> 56:52.880
But beyond that, I think
that's a little bit more

56:52.880 --> 56:54.030
of a future discussion.

56:55.220 --> 56:58.520
- I would just add, so first
off you comment on price.

56:58.520 --> 57:01.490
Price will always be a factor, okay,

57:01.490 --> 57:03.910
but it's not always the only factor

57:03.910 --> 57:07.920
and you know as we get deeper into,

57:07.920 --> 57:10.840
like in PEO Ships right now,
many of our product lines

57:10.840 --> 57:12.610
are fairly stable.

57:12.610 --> 57:17.570
And the way to solidify the
industrial base a little bit

57:17.570 --> 57:22.570
is by providing a
consistent demand signal.

57:23.320 --> 57:25.560
So we can do that through
some of the contracting

57:25.560 --> 57:29.130
strategies that we implement,
so think the DDG-51

57:29.130 --> 57:30.390
multi-year procurement,

57:30.390 --> 57:33.210
so that was for 10 ships
with an option ship

57:33.210 --> 57:34.710
in each one of the five years.

57:35.610 --> 57:37.410
We're looking at that
same type of approach

57:37.410 --> 57:40.543
within the amphib portfolio right now.

57:41.960 --> 57:45.040
But that consistent demand
signal to the industrial base

57:45.040 --> 57:48.140
I think helps get at what
you're talking about.

57:48.140 --> 57:51.350
The other piece to this
that I think is important

57:51.350 --> 57:54.830
that frankly we perhaps
don't always take the best

57:54.830 --> 57:57.520
advantage of is the use of
advance procurement money,

57:57.520 --> 58:00.380
whether it's for a single ship buy, okay,

58:00.380 --> 58:03.160
we can buy the long lead
material and get that going

58:03.160 --> 58:04.920
again to help stabilize
that industrial base

58:04.920 --> 58:08.241
or the ESVOQ type funding.

58:08.241 --> 58:10.830
So there's a couple of
different mechanisms out there

58:10.830 --> 58:14.330
we can use I think to help
from a contracting standpoint

58:14.330 --> 58:18.370
that will help with the industrial base.

58:18.370 --> 58:20.020
- So while we're on the
industrial base, Matt,

58:20.020 --> 58:22.537
anything from industry's perspective,

58:22.537 --> 58:24.570
want to add on top of that?

58:24.570 --> 58:28.720
- Well, Admiral Galinis
hit it with block buys,

58:28.720 --> 58:31.030
advanced procurement,
multi-year contracts,

58:31.030 --> 58:33.260
all those things, any acquisition strategy

58:33.260 --> 58:36.060
that can give us the
horizons to know that we

58:36.060 --> 58:38.480
can invest in our facilities,
into human capital,

58:38.480 --> 58:41.480
all that stuff, is powerful
for the industrial base.

58:41.480 --> 58:44.053
I would say thank God
sequestration is done.

58:45.040 --> 58:48.750
A decade of budget
uncertainty has wreaked havoc

58:48.750 --> 58:50.640
across the industry.

58:50.640 --> 58:53.470
And so from an industrial base standpoint,

58:53.470 --> 58:56.570
living with a blunt instrument
like that was very difficult.

58:56.570 --> 58:59.930
I would say from an industrial
base, the one thing that's

58:59.930 --> 59:02.810
of huge concern is workforce development.

59:02.810 --> 59:06.080
Our shipyards pride themselves
on training programs

59:06.080 --> 59:09.380
and apprenticeship programs
that are state-of-the-art,

59:09.380 --> 59:11.230
but there's no guarantee
that shipyard worker

59:11.230 --> 59:12.700
will end up in that shipyard.

59:12.700 --> 59:16.270
Highly skilled work set can be hired away.

59:16.270 --> 59:18.080
But if you've lived with years of layoffs,

59:18.080 --> 59:20.150
those guys exit the industry.

59:20.150 --> 59:21.790
So those men and women,

59:21.790 --> 59:23.590
we need to train the next generation.

59:23.590 --> 59:26.440
So workforce development's
highly critical.

59:26.440 --> 59:28.830
I would say one last thing on that, sir,

59:28.830 --> 59:31.000
we shop, probably as a shipyard industry,

59:31.000 --> 59:33.740
we need to work towards
a national credential,

59:33.740 --> 59:36.410
national standard so our shipyard workers

59:36.410 --> 59:40.110
can go from one home port
to the other and not wait

59:40.110 --> 59:42.310
three weeks to get
recertified or retrained.

59:43.170 --> 59:45.680
They can jump off the
plane and go right to work.

59:45.680 --> 59:49.080
That's some things in industry
I know we're working on.

59:49.080 --> 59:51.600
People like Mitch Walden
who have worked on our

59:51.600 --> 59:54.010
workforce development
committee has said we have

59:54.010 --> 59:54.843
to get this right.

59:54.843 --> 59:56.770
We as an industry have to
come and say, this is what

59:56.770 --> 01:00:00.260
we need, and so we're working
on that day and night.

01:00:00.260 --> 01:00:03.340
- I would offer up to you
come talk to us at NAVSEA

01:00:03.340 --> 01:00:06.780
because we've had a concerted
effort during my time

01:00:06.780 --> 01:00:08.860
to try and do the exact
same thing with our public

01:00:08.860 --> 01:00:12.010
shipyards which is, if
you're a welder at one yard,

01:00:12.010 --> 01:00:14.100
we've found when you got to the other yard

01:00:14.100 --> 01:00:15.700
you had to go through a
two-week training period,

01:00:15.700 --> 01:00:18.150
and I think the question
is if you're a certified

01:00:18.150 --> 01:00:20.870
nuclear welder at Puget,
why aren't you a certified

01:00:20.870 --> 01:00:21.910
nuclear welder at Norfolk.

01:00:21.910 --> 01:00:23.530
So we've tried to
streamline those processes.

01:00:23.530 --> 01:00:26.618
I think that's, I'm
encouraged that you're talking

01:00:26.618 --> 01:00:28.874
about that on a national
level, and I think NAVSEA

01:00:28.874 --> 01:00:29.900
would be willing to sit
down and talk to you

01:00:29.900 --> 01:00:32.313
about what we're trying to
do in that particular area.

01:00:32.313 --> 01:00:33.994
- We've heard a lot about
that and I think that's right,

01:00:33.994 --> 01:00:35.473
the public yards are ahead of us on that.

01:00:35.473 --> 01:00:37.310
We need to get to it.

01:00:37.310 --> 01:00:38.143
Thank you sir.

01:00:38.143 --> 01:00:41.003
- From the Coast Guard
perspective, industrial base,

01:00:41.003 --> 01:00:41.836
would you like to talk to some of this?

01:00:41.836 --> 01:00:43.037
- Yes sir.

01:00:43.037 --> 01:00:45.840
So I think, I do appreciate
the SCA's efforts

01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.610
on the credentialing,
because for the smaller

01:00:47.610 --> 01:00:49.310
shipyards, smaller business
side, I think that's

01:00:49.310 --> 01:00:51.180
really important,
particularly when industry

01:00:51.180 --> 01:00:53.952
needs to partner to meet the demands.

01:00:53.952 --> 01:00:56.590
So I think that really
will help that certainly

01:00:56.590 --> 01:00:59.600
in the performance time
and the cost ultimately.

01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:02.580
So I think that's a real plus.

01:01:02.580 --> 01:01:06.100
A lot of my acquisitions are
the smaller business side

01:01:06.100 --> 01:01:08.980
and that gets tricky.

01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:10.970
Obviously we need to continue to do better

01:01:10.970 --> 01:01:15.330
on the forecasting side
and I think we're trying

01:01:15.330 --> 01:01:18.380
to do that as well as
also across government,

01:01:18.380 --> 01:01:21.170
making sure that we look across portfolios

01:01:21.170 --> 01:01:23.540
to ensure that we're
not injecting too much

01:01:25.110 --> 01:01:29.450
contracting need and
build-out at the same time

01:01:29.450 --> 01:01:33.100
across government, so I'm
very proud our partnership

01:01:33.100 --> 01:01:37.440
with the Navy has never
been stronger and I really

01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:39.770
appreciate that commitment from the team.

01:01:39.770 --> 01:01:41.500
We've had a lot of discussions on that.

01:01:41.500 --> 01:01:44.770
We know both in
shipbuilding and ship repair

01:01:44.770 --> 01:01:47.823
in that industrial base is common to both,

01:01:47.823 --> 01:01:48.990
we've got to continue
to look at that, sir,

01:01:48.990 --> 01:01:53.360
and it's very valuable
to all of us down there.

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:54.200
- Yeah, thanks.

01:01:54.200 --> 01:01:55.680
One of the great things
about being a moderator

01:01:55.680 --> 01:01:57.963
is you can talk about
being asked questions,

01:02:00.617 --> 01:02:02.060
so we would say this whole discussion

01:02:02.060 --> 01:02:04.960
on the industrial base out
there is critically important.

01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.120
If anybody's ever read Freedom's
Forge, about what happened

01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:10.210
in World War II, I think
there's this nostalgic view

01:02:10.210 --> 01:02:14.020
that somehow World War II
happened and we went (snap)

01:02:14.020 --> 01:02:16.610
and all of the sudden we
magically started building

01:02:16.610 --> 01:02:18.880
liberty ships and tanks.

01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.320
If you read the book you're gonna find out

01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.920
it really took us three
or four years to ramp up

01:02:25.070 --> 01:02:27.090
and the industrial might
of the United States

01:02:27.090 --> 01:02:29.400
so in the era of great power
competition is we're trying

01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:31.120
to get to the 355 ships.

01:02:31.120 --> 01:02:32.750
Anything we can do to
support the industrial base

01:02:32.750 --> 01:02:34.620
I think is important
because if we actually get

01:02:34.620 --> 01:02:36.840
into a time of war if
anybody thinks that we're

01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:39.810
going to overnight accelerate
the rate of shipbuilding,

01:02:39.810 --> 01:02:42.220
they've got another think coming.

01:02:42.220 --> 01:02:43.660
Good questions.

01:02:43.660 --> 01:02:45.530
- [Audience Member] Hi,
Justin Katz, Inside Defense.

01:02:45.530 --> 01:02:48.260
Admiral Galinis, I wanted
to ask you about CHAMP,

01:02:48.260 --> 01:02:50.220
the future auxiliary vessel.

01:02:50.220 --> 01:02:53.460
So not too long ago the
CBO put out a report

01:02:53.460 --> 01:02:56.520
that essentially said the
Navy's estimate of CHAMP

01:02:56.520 --> 01:03:00.350
was about 50% higher than
what CBO would have guessed,

01:03:00.350 --> 01:03:02.910
or would have estimated,
and the Navy's estimate

01:03:02.910 --> 01:03:05.573
was in the $1.1, $1.2 billion range.

01:03:06.720 --> 01:03:09.240
You know, I know you have
four shipyards right now

01:03:09.240 --> 01:03:11.030
that are working to
drive that number down,

01:03:11.030 --> 01:03:12.550
but I'm wondering if you
could comment at least

01:03:12.550 --> 01:03:16.720
at a high level, what do
you think drove the Navy

01:03:16.720 --> 01:03:20.120
to come to such a different
starting point than the CBO?

01:03:20.120 --> 01:03:23.810
I mean that's a $500 million
delta for a single ship,

01:03:23.810 --> 01:03:27.640
or single ship class that is
not that far out in the future.

01:03:27.640 --> 01:03:30.700
- Yeah, so I'll give you
a couple of thoughts.

01:03:30.700 --> 01:03:35.700
So, number one, CHAMP is
a Common Hull Multipurpose

01:03:36.110 --> 01:03:41.110
Platform, but whenever you
try to take a single-hull

01:03:41.410 --> 01:03:44.770
form and spread it across
a number of different

01:03:44.770 --> 01:03:47.600
mission areas, it's clearly not optimized

01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:49.490
for any one particular area, right?

01:03:49.490 --> 01:03:53.360
So I think that drove
a little bit of cost,

01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.620
and I tell you, again,
working with the shipyards,

01:03:56.620 --> 01:03:59.870
we got a lot of good feedback
from industry on this.

01:03:59.870 --> 01:04:04.870
And first it was hey, our
concept was one hull form

01:04:05.940 --> 01:04:09.030
across four or five
different mission areas,

01:04:09.030 --> 01:04:12.000
we modified that as we needed.

01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.080
Industry came back and
said, hey, you probably want

01:04:14.080 --> 01:04:15.654
to look at two different hull forms.

01:04:15.654 --> 01:04:18.970
So we did that, and we
were still coming in high.

01:04:18.970 --> 01:04:21.040
So that was one thing, was the common hull

01:04:21.040 --> 01:04:24.500
that was probably not optimized
for specific mission sets.

01:04:24.500 --> 01:04:25.670
The other thing I would just tell you

01:04:25.670 --> 01:04:27.660
is I think we had requirements

01:04:27.660 --> 01:04:30.530
in there that were
probably a little bit above

01:04:30.530 --> 01:04:33.630
what we really needed,
and so as I mentioned,

01:04:33.630 --> 01:04:36.450
what the team really
did and a lot of credit

01:04:36.450 --> 01:04:40.000
to our Expeditionary and
Sealift Program Office,

01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:45.000
PMS 385, Scot Searles and
his team, is they went back

01:04:45.050 --> 01:04:48.000
and they looked, okay,
from a ground up approach

01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:50.470
which is kind of what CBO
really kind of talked about

01:04:50.470 --> 01:04:51.303
in the report.

01:04:52.270 --> 01:04:55.840
Let's start with a commercial
ship and then let's add in

01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:59.190
the specific military unique
requirements that we need.

01:04:59.190 --> 01:05:02.203
And so I talk about weapons
handling capability,

01:05:03.050 --> 01:05:05.310
heavier loads in some
cases, and different cranes

01:05:05.310 --> 01:05:06.450
and stuff like that.

01:05:06.450 --> 01:05:10.020
But as we did that, and I'll
tell you what the shipyards

01:05:10.020 --> 01:05:13.610
are coming in with now are
some pretty innovative concepts

01:05:13.610 --> 01:05:17.310
on how they would get there
and bring that price down

01:05:17.310 --> 01:05:21.987
below kind of, I'll say $500
million dollars threshold.

01:05:21.987 --> 01:05:24.560
I think the team's on a good path.

01:05:24.560 --> 01:05:26.600
The other part of that,
I didn't mention this,

01:05:26.600 --> 01:05:29.410
and Admiral Buzby stepped
out, but we're doing a lot

01:05:29.410 --> 01:05:33.340
of work with MarAd on
the buy used, so again,

01:05:33.340 --> 01:05:35.400
that's a little bit
different approach to what

01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:38.020
we've taken in the past,
we kind of work with them.

01:05:38.020 --> 01:05:39.700
MarAd's got a lot of
experience in that area,

01:05:39.700 --> 01:05:41.340
so we'll work with them on that.

01:05:41.340 --> 01:05:44.440
But those are just a couple
of thoughts on what drove

01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:46.880
the initial price of the Sealift.

01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:48.378
- [Justin] Thank you.

01:05:48.378 --> 01:05:51.750
- [Audience Member] Admiral
Moton, could you comment

01:05:51.750 --> 01:05:54.300
on the testing that you've
done with the variable

01:05:54.300 --> 01:05:56.600
depth sonar and the
progress you've made there.

01:05:56.600 --> 01:05:59.083
Is it performing to your expectations,

01:06:00.150 --> 01:06:02.622
any details you can provide on that.

01:06:02.622 --> 01:06:03.980
And Admiral Galinis, could you elaborate

01:06:03.980 --> 01:06:07.300
on what your plan is for
the T-AGOS competition

01:06:07.300 --> 01:06:11.163
and how that's gonna map out
over the next year please?

01:06:13.310 --> 01:06:17.640
- Sure, let me hit the VDS briefly.

01:06:17.640 --> 01:06:21.993
So the testing off of Fort Worth
is actually just commenced.

01:06:23.544 --> 01:06:25.530
We're kind of what we're
calling the hydrodynamic

01:06:25.530 --> 01:06:28.410
integration phase right
now, so it's been less

01:06:28.410 --> 01:06:31.680
about, so far it's been less
about finding submarines

01:06:31.680 --> 01:06:34.630
and more about making sure
that everything operates

01:06:34.630 --> 01:06:37.027
as it's supposed to be, so
we're probably a little bit

01:06:37.027 --> 01:06:39.940
premature to answer you
questions specifically

01:06:39.940 --> 01:06:42.614
on that piece, but we have
already tested the sonar

01:06:42.614 --> 01:06:46.010
off of a white ship
experimental and had excellent

01:06:46.010 --> 01:06:49.600
results several years ago,
actually back when I had

01:06:49.600 --> 01:06:51.803
the program, we had
done testing back then.

01:06:52.730 --> 01:06:54.380
So, which was successful,

01:06:54.380 --> 01:06:57.990
so overall I think,
certainly working closely

01:06:57.990 --> 01:07:01.330
with the PIWS, I think
the VDS is going to bring

01:07:01.330 --> 01:07:04.463
game-changing ASW
capability to the platform.

01:07:05.380 --> 01:07:08.110
And we're really looking forward to it.

01:07:08.110 --> 01:07:09.800
- Did you want to add anything Doug?

01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.405
- Just concur.

01:07:11.405 --> 01:07:12.763
(audience laughing)
- Concur, okay, good.

01:07:14.130 --> 01:07:17.732
- So on the T-AGOS, so what I
would tell you on the T-AGOS,

01:07:17.732 --> 01:07:22.360
you know, we envision a
SWATH platform so, excuse me,

01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:25.720
a ship that has to operate
in a heavy sea state

01:07:25.720 --> 01:07:29.200
at a increased speed, ship speed,

01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:31.840
above what the current
T-AGOS ships operate at.

01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.520
And so that requirement,
high speed, heavy sea state,

01:07:35.520 --> 01:07:37.290
those are kind the driving requirements.

01:07:37.290 --> 01:07:40.513
We have an initial design
that has been developed

01:07:40.513 --> 01:07:44.440
by the Navy that we're gonna
use to work with industry.

01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:48.660
We expect to release the R&P
industry studies this year

01:07:48.660 --> 01:07:52.280
and we'll work to kind
of mature the concepts

01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:53.493
that we have right now.

01:07:54.390 --> 01:07:57.100
We're also, we've gotten
some other I'll say

01:07:57.100 --> 01:08:00.550
unsolicited kind of inputs
from industry we're evaluating

01:08:00.550 --> 01:08:04.260
and looking at, but that's
kind of the basic concept

01:08:04.260 --> 01:08:06.073
for T-AGOS, at least for 2020.

01:08:08.026 --> 01:08:09.980
- [John] Thank you, John Harbor again.

01:08:09.980 --> 01:08:13.410
Admiral Moton, there's
obviously a lot of interest

01:08:13.410 --> 01:08:15.400
in unmanned systems.

01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:19.100
Can you talk about how far
away we are from seeing

01:08:19.100 --> 01:08:22.350
large numbers of UUVs or USVs deployed,

01:08:22.350 --> 01:08:24.040
and what are some of the
challenges that need to be

01:08:24.040 --> 01:08:25.940
worked through before that can happen?

01:08:27.890 --> 01:08:29.994
- That's my whole day job
you want me to talk about.

01:08:29.994 --> 01:08:32.430
(audience laughing)

01:08:32.430 --> 01:08:34.980
So a little bit different situations.

01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:38.770
First of all, our UUVs, a few years ahead

01:08:38.770 --> 01:08:40.843
of where we are on USVs.

01:08:40.843 --> 01:08:44.280
If you want to talk about
large numbers of UUVs deployed,

01:08:44.280 --> 01:08:46.730
I encourage you to go down
to Stennis and to visit

01:08:46.730 --> 01:08:48.343
the Naval Oceanography Command.

01:08:50.320 --> 01:08:54.170
There is, UUVs are already
out there and operating.

01:08:54.170 --> 01:08:59.170
So, where we are of course
I think in POU, taking

01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:02.290
it the next step is obviously
for combat capability

01:09:02.290 --> 01:09:06.925
for UUVs and also much larger,
in terms of our extra large

01:09:06.925 --> 01:09:11.925
UUV for our pier-launched
capability all the way down

01:09:13.570 --> 01:09:17.920
to Razorback which is
going to be torpedo tube

01:09:18.840 --> 01:09:21.210
launch and recovery, it
turns every submarine

01:09:21.210 --> 01:09:23.170
into a UUV platform.

01:09:23.170 --> 01:09:25.230
Pretty sure that's as much
submarine talk as I should

01:09:25.230 --> 01:09:28.330
be doing in this room
right now here at SNA.

01:09:28.330 --> 01:09:30.730
That's the UUV piece.

01:09:30.730 --> 01:09:35.730
For the USVs, first of all, we are, again,

01:09:36.117 --> 01:09:38.410
one of the first things
I did, I read the history

01:09:38.410 --> 01:09:40.850
of early naval aviation, and
we're kind of in that stage

01:09:40.850 --> 01:09:44.120
of where we have prototypes out there.

01:09:44.120 --> 01:09:48.850
We've had the two vessels
from under the OSD SCO

01:09:48.850 --> 01:09:53.110
program that we manage for
them out there operating

01:09:53.110 --> 01:09:55.270
and those have been primarily focused on,

01:09:55.270 --> 01:09:58.210
you ask me what's
important is these things.

01:09:58.210 --> 01:10:02.810
They've been focused on HM&E
autonomy and reliability,

01:10:02.810 --> 01:10:06.350
which has been really the
biggest reason for the Phase I

01:10:06.350 --> 01:10:08.120
of that SCO program.

01:10:08.120 --> 01:10:11.770
Mission autonomy, and then
navigational autonomy.

01:10:11.770 --> 01:10:14.870
I would tell you at least
on some of the navigational

01:10:14.870 --> 01:10:16.780
autonomy that we are not,

01:10:16.780 --> 01:10:19.990
the U.S. Navy is not
necessarily in the lead.

01:10:19.990 --> 01:10:22.930
There are commercial companies
out there around the world

01:10:22.930 --> 01:10:27.690
that are doing optionally
manned, optionally unmanned

01:10:27.690 --> 01:10:30.380
vessels with some degree
of autonomy quite a bit.

01:10:30.380 --> 01:10:35.370
So the testing that we
did in SCO so far has gone

01:10:35.370 --> 01:10:40.370
really well and we have done
numerous unmanned autonomous

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.400
transits in the Gulf of Mexico.

01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:47.630
Sea Hunter, which was
under O&R and is now,

01:10:47.630 --> 01:10:51.290
has transitioned to us, has
been out to Pearl and back

01:10:51.290 --> 01:10:54.210
on the way back from Pearl,
it didn't have to be boarded

01:10:54.210 --> 01:10:56.393
at all until it got to San Diego.

01:10:58.170 --> 01:11:00.350
So, the prototypes have been successful,

01:11:00.350 --> 01:11:04.400
and that's where my focus is
is on getting more prototypes

01:11:04.400 --> 01:11:05.830
in the next few years,

01:11:05.830 --> 01:11:07.710
and then the other thing
that we're moving into

01:11:07.710 --> 01:11:11.390
with Phase II of the Overlord
Program is integration

01:11:11.390 --> 01:11:13.720
with the C4I capabilities,

01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:16.220
integration with combat system payload.

01:11:16.220 --> 01:11:19.980
So in a nutshell, that's
probably a good snapshot

01:11:19.980 --> 01:11:21.753
of the challenges of unmanned.

01:11:23.340 --> 01:11:24.890
We'll get through our
prototypes, we're doing

01:11:24.890 --> 01:11:26.950
our enabling capabilities,

01:11:26.950 --> 01:11:28.223
the last piece I would
just mention that I sort of

01:11:28.223 --> 01:11:31.020
said in my intro is we're
doing what I sort of call

01:11:31.020 --> 01:11:34.830
foundational things so from
an acquisition standpoint

01:11:34.830 --> 01:11:37.560
really we have been taking
the lead in what's called

01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.420
the unmanned maritime
autonomy architecture, UMAA,

01:11:40.420 --> 01:11:45.050
working with industry on a
system that's going to have

01:11:45.050 --> 01:11:48.930
open interfaces between
pieces of autonomy software,

01:11:48.930 --> 01:11:51.400
allows each company to do their own pieces

01:11:51.400 --> 01:11:53.690
of autonomy kit which
we can then integrate,

01:11:53.690 --> 01:11:56.700
so we're doing a lot
of those kind of things

01:11:56.700 --> 01:11:58.810
which are, if you think about
it, is exactly the stuff

01:11:58.810 --> 01:12:01.693
we should be doing at the
start of an unmanned program.

01:12:02.580 --> 01:12:03.880
That's my snapshot.

01:12:03.880 --> 01:12:05.770
- [John] So given the need
to do all of that work

01:12:05.770 --> 01:12:08.890
do you think it's maybe
five or 10 years before

01:12:08.890 --> 01:12:11.270
we're going to see large
numbers of these systems

01:12:11.270 --> 01:12:15.063
deployed or is it a shorter
or longer horizon for that?

01:12:15.900 --> 01:12:18.000
- Well, again, UUVs, I think
you're already out there,

01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:21.260
in terms of the combat capability.

01:12:21.260 --> 01:12:24.700
We're in sort of fit-up
time frames for getting

01:12:24.700 --> 01:12:25.913
capability out there.

01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:30.930
On medium, what's in
PV20 in the medium USV,

01:12:30.930 --> 01:12:34.560
we have one prototype in
'19, then we have another one

01:12:34.560 --> 01:12:37.940
in 2023, that's what's in PV20.

01:12:37.940 --> 01:12:40.810
We're still talking fit-up
time frames for that,

01:12:40.810 --> 01:12:42.950
those start to deliver.

01:12:42.950 --> 01:12:46.860
For LUSV, with the prototypes
are all moving now,

01:12:46.860 --> 01:12:50.600
when are we going to
transition to proto of record

01:12:51.750 --> 01:12:56.220
sort of procurement of
full-up capability there.

01:12:56.220 --> 01:13:00.410
That's something that frankly
because of our discussions

01:13:00.410 --> 01:13:03.400
with Congress and industry,
we are making some adjustments

01:13:03.400 --> 01:13:05.450
there and I think when PV21 comes

01:13:05.450 --> 01:13:06.500
you'll see some adjustments.

01:13:06.500 --> 01:13:11.500
But it's not, this is not 15 years out,

01:13:12.323 --> 01:13:15.290
this is end of fit-up, a
little bit beyond fit-up,

01:13:15.290 --> 01:13:16.920
is when those numbers are
going to be out there,

01:13:16.920 --> 01:13:20.463
but for the industry
folks, I've cautioned,

01:13:21.375 --> 01:13:24.270
you are sitting here in
2020 thinking that unmanned

01:13:24.270 --> 01:13:27.530
is your lifeline to having
a steady industrial base,

01:13:27.530 --> 01:13:30.230
we need to get through
the prototype phase first.

01:13:30.230 --> 01:13:32.030
And that's where my focus is.

01:13:32.030 --> 01:13:33.090
- [John] Thank you.

01:13:33.090 --> 01:13:36.010
- If I could just add
on to supporting Casey

01:13:36.010 --> 01:13:37.970
on the combat systems side.

01:13:37.970 --> 01:13:40.400
A lot of the work that
we've been doing certainly

01:13:40.400 --> 01:13:43.770
in the virtualized combat
systems, all of our major

01:13:43.770 --> 01:13:46.280
sensors, weapons, everything
are inherently modular

01:13:46.280 --> 01:13:48.890
and scalable, so we've been
working sort of in parallel

01:13:48.890 --> 01:13:51.730
so that when we do get
out there and experiment,

01:13:51.730 --> 01:13:56.470
he can have a choice of
packages, whatever the Navy wants

01:13:56.470 --> 01:13:59.030
in terms of combat
capability, we'll be there

01:13:59.030 --> 01:14:01.610
to be able to provide
that sort of in stride

01:14:01.610 --> 01:14:03.693
with the production.

01:14:05.890 --> 01:14:08.820
- [Robby] Robby Harris
here, a former Naval person.

01:14:08.820 --> 01:14:11.830
Question concerns DDG-1000.

01:14:11.830 --> 01:14:15.650
My friend, Mark Vandroth,
just reminded me DDG-1000

01:14:15.650 --> 01:14:20.090
was authorized and
appropriated in the year 2005.

01:14:20.090 --> 01:14:21.433
It's now 2020.

01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:26.030
Now some have explained
that, that it's 15 years

01:14:26.030 --> 01:14:29.930
and it's still not a full
upground, that DDG-1000

01:14:29.930 --> 01:14:33.990
shares several things in
common with the forward class

01:14:33.990 --> 01:14:38.260
aircraft carrier and
the Boeing 787 airplane.

01:14:38.260 --> 01:14:41.820
Namely there were multiple,
simultaneous technology

01:14:41.820 --> 01:14:44.293
revolutions in the same platform.

01:14:45.774 --> 01:14:49.690
I direct this question across the panel.

01:14:49.690 --> 01:14:52.060
Do you agree that that
is partially the reason

01:14:52.060 --> 01:14:55.710
of why it's taken so
long to make the DDG-1000

01:14:55.710 --> 01:14:56.943
a full upground?

01:14:58.116 --> 01:15:00.123
- Yes sir, so great question.

01:15:01.010 --> 01:15:04.440
And I would tell you,
kind of the difference

01:15:04.440 --> 01:15:08.840
between evolutionary versus
revolutionary ship design.

01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:13.130
And I would argue that our
most successful programs

01:15:13.130 --> 01:15:16.810
have been more on the
evolutionary approach

01:15:16.810 --> 01:15:18.460
than they have the revolutionary.

01:15:19.770 --> 01:15:22.440
But that's not to say
that we shouldn't look

01:15:22.440 --> 01:15:25.280
at revolutionary
technologies to incorporate

01:15:25.280 --> 01:15:29.120
into our programs, and I would argue,

01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:32.727
offer the integration of
the Aegis combat system

01:15:32.727 --> 01:15:36.330
into what at the time was a 963 hull form

01:15:36.330 --> 01:15:37.540
that then became a cruiser

01:15:37.540 --> 01:15:40.670
and then eventually
migrated on to the DDG-51.

01:15:40.670 --> 01:15:44.694
That was a game-changing
capability that we

01:15:44.694 --> 01:15:47.273
brought to the fleet at that time.

01:15:48.450 --> 01:15:51.840
The challenge on 1000,
there were I want to say

01:15:51.840 --> 01:15:56.210
10 different technology
subsets if you will

01:15:56.210 --> 01:16:00.150
trying to integrate
those into one ship class

01:16:00.150 --> 01:16:01.723
and frankly it was hard.

01:16:02.965 --> 01:16:07.610
The technology in some
cases was not fully mature.

01:16:07.610 --> 01:16:10.030
I think most folks in
this room would argue

01:16:11.650 --> 01:16:15.520
integration is really the
hard part when you come

01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:17.140
right down to it,

01:16:17.140 --> 01:16:19.010
as you bring all these
technologies together.

01:16:19.010 --> 01:16:21.760
And that's really where we're struggling.

01:16:21.760 --> 01:16:24.210
As I mentioned, as we go
through the combat systems

01:16:24.210 --> 01:16:27.120
testing right now, we're
bringing hardware and software

01:16:27.120 --> 01:16:29.120
together for the first time on the ship.

01:16:30.100 --> 01:16:33.280
That's generally not a recipe for success

01:16:33.280 --> 01:16:35.910
and so that's kind of where,
I mean the team's doing

01:16:35.910 --> 01:16:38.000
a great job and we're
gonna get through this.

01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.030
But it generally does
take a little bit longer

01:16:41.030 --> 01:16:43.200
when you compare that
maybe to the Aegis model

01:16:43.200 --> 01:16:45.390
where we bring the
hardware and the software,

01:16:45.390 --> 01:16:48.560
I mean even today, we bring
the hardware and the software

01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:51.860
together for each ship
before we send that ship set

01:16:51.860 --> 01:16:54.453
to the shipyard to be fully integrated.

01:16:55.580 --> 01:16:58.873
As we start talking about like
the large surface combatant,

01:16:59.730 --> 01:17:01.570
a lot of these lessons learned,

01:17:01.570 --> 01:17:03.800
the shore-based integration piece,

01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:06.987
and some of the fundamental
work that's going on

01:17:06.987 --> 01:17:08.550
that will start this
year up in Philadelphia

01:17:08.550 --> 01:17:11.125
for like the integrated propulsion plant

01:17:11.125 --> 01:17:12.570
to the electric drive
to eventually migrating

01:17:12.570 --> 01:17:16.610
to an integrated electric
plant that then brings in

01:17:16.610 --> 01:17:19.710
an energy storage capability
and the control systems

01:17:19.710 --> 01:17:22.051
that that requires, and the
thermal management piece

01:17:22.051 --> 01:17:26.900
that is needed, so I think
you're exactly right,

01:17:26.900 --> 01:17:30.040
it's a number of technologies
that really kind of

01:17:30.040 --> 01:17:31.847
drove us to that.

01:17:31.847 --> 01:17:32.790
- [Robby] Thank you very much.

01:17:32.790 --> 01:17:36.610
- Yeah, I would add, I think you're right,

01:17:36.610 --> 01:17:38.740
and we've got to be careful
about trying to inject

01:17:38.740 --> 01:17:42.710
too much technology at once
and learn some of that lesson.

01:17:42.710 --> 01:17:45.800
But I would tell you that
when I was PEO Carriers

01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:47.960
I used to carry around
three newspaper articles

01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:50.770
from the Washington Post and
they had three headlines,

01:17:50.770 --> 01:17:53.850
one the Navy's Billion Dollar Blackhole,

01:17:53.850 --> 01:17:56.270
the second headline
was Building a Cadillac

01:17:56.270 --> 01:17:59.030
When We Only Needed a Volkswagen,
and the third headline

01:17:59.030 --> 01:18:01.440
was The Navy's Acquisition Nightmare.

01:18:01.440 --> 01:18:03.170
And I would carry that
with me when I'd go talk

01:18:03.170 --> 01:18:04.880
to people because people
would not only give me

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:08.060
this kind of little
smirk, yep, you're talking

01:18:08.060 --> 01:18:10.560
about the Ford-class carrier,
and then I would say,

01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:12.160
hey, by the way, 70 ships later,

01:18:12.160 --> 01:18:14.283
DDG-51's doing pretty well.

01:18:15.690 --> 01:18:20.270
My point being is we are building second

01:18:20.270 --> 01:18:22.370
and third generation
technology to stay ahead

01:18:22.370 --> 01:18:25.100
of the threat and do
we always get it right

01:18:25.100 --> 01:18:26.020
the first time, no,

01:18:26.020 --> 01:18:27.400
and in fact I think history would tell us

01:18:27.400 --> 01:18:30.510
on most first-to-class,
everything we have challenges

01:18:30.510 --> 01:18:33.410
whether it's Joint Strike Five
or Super Hornet that can go

01:18:34.639 --> 01:18:35.670
F-14, ship porting problems.

01:18:35.670 --> 01:18:38.470
But the thing that I would
like to tell everybody

01:18:38.470 --> 01:18:42.400
is we've got the best industrial
capability in the world

01:18:42.400 --> 01:18:45.320
and we've got the best
engineers on the Navy side

01:18:45.320 --> 01:18:47.530
of that house, supporting that.

01:18:47.530 --> 01:18:49.840
And at the end of the day,
we always make it work

01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:53.750
and when we do it's, they are
just magnificent platforms

01:18:53.750 --> 01:18:57.140
that serve this country well
for a long period of time.

01:18:57.140 --> 01:19:00.340
And I would tell you that's
what's gonna happen with Ford.

01:19:00.340 --> 01:19:02.540
We made the decision to
limit the DDG-1000 out

01:19:02.540 --> 01:19:06.690
to three ships but we're gonna
learn a lot from DDG-1000

01:19:06.690 --> 01:19:09.610
as well just like we learned
from Sea Wolf that is going

01:19:09.610 --> 01:19:13.020
to be a powerful contributor
to the next generation

01:19:13.020 --> 01:19:14.020
surface fleet out there.

01:19:14.020 --> 01:19:17.140
So I don't want anybody
to be left with the fact

01:19:17.140 --> 01:19:20.150
that we're gonna walk away from these

01:19:20.150 --> 01:19:22.970
as complete disasters,
they've had their challenges,

01:19:22.970 --> 01:19:24.270
I think we've learned from those things,

01:19:24.270 --> 01:19:27.270
but I will tell you, I'm
bullish on, certainly on Ford,

01:19:27.270 --> 01:19:29.610
and I think we're gonna
look back and be thankful

01:19:29.610 --> 01:19:31.623
that we built DDG-1000 as well.

01:19:33.090 --> 01:19:36.940
- And I would just say
too, yes, we can talk about

01:19:36.940 --> 01:19:41.920
in 2005, but the program was
conceived and then authorized

01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:45.950
and appropriated when the
world was a different place.

01:19:45.950 --> 01:19:48.840
Naval strategy was a lot
different when we conceived

01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:53.290
of a stealthy ship with a
long-range gun being a primary

01:19:53.290 --> 01:19:54.870
battery for the U.S. Navy.

01:19:54.870 --> 01:19:56.330
The world has completely changed.

01:19:56.330 --> 01:19:59.750
Now we are in an era of
competition on the high seas.

01:19:59.750 --> 01:20:04.750
So the Navy made the good
decision to go back to the DDG-51

01:20:05.330 --> 01:20:07.640
and get the Flight III
out there to handle that.

01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:11.210
In the meantime,
programmatically, you know there's

01:20:11.210 --> 01:20:14.070
a lot of decisions that were
made to get the three ships

01:20:14.070 --> 01:20:14.903
that we have.

01:20:14.903 --> 01:20:17.500
We will absolutely and are
learning from those ships

01:20:17.500 --> 01:20:20.763
and taking those lessons
forward into not just

01:20:20.763 --> 01:20:24.310
the DDG-51 program but certainly
any of the future stuff

01:20:24.310 --> 01:20:25.640
we're doing as well.

01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:28.619
As well as, as we operate
those ships, we're learning

01:20:28.619 --> 01:20:33.328
a lot of things that may
have been somebody's idea

01:20:33.328 --> 01:20:36.350
for how the capability
might be utilized some day.

01:20:36.350 --> 01:20:38.610
Now that sailors are out
there doing it, we're learning

01:20:38.610 --> 01:20:42.040
a lot more, so thankfully
of those technologies

01:20:42.040 --> 01:20:43.720
that we did bring to bear,
there was some inherent

01:20:43.720 --> 01:20:45.790
modularity and scalability
in there that we are

01:20:45.790 --> 01:20:48.570
going to absolutely be
able to take advantage of.

01:20:48.570 --> 01:20:51.040
- [Audience Member] Just
a footnote on the point

01:20:51.040 --> 01:20:53.210
about how the world has changed.

01:20:53.210 --> 01:20:57.600
Think about the B-52 and
when the first B-52 flew

01:20:57.600 --> 01:20:59.203
and how relevant it is today.

01:21:00.796 --> 01:21:01.883
- Sir.

01:21:02.910 --> 01:21:03.970
- [Audience Member] Thank you Admiral.

01:21:03.970 --> 01:21:06.370
This question's for Matt Paxton.

01:21:06.370 --> 01:21:08.660
Matt, I've had a chance to
listen to you for the last

01:21:08.660 --> 01:21:13.410
few years as a member of SCA
and one of the second items

01:21:13.410 --> 01:21:17.093
you talked about today is
the defense of the Jones Act.

01:21:18.260 --> 01:21:20.740
Prior to my attending
SCA on a regular basis,

01:21:20.740 --> 01:21:23.550
I don't think I ever really
truly appreciated what

01:21:23.550 --> 01:21:25.053
the Jones Act was.

01:21:26.360 --> 01:21:28.563
There were events recently,

01:21:29.460 --> 01:21:32.750
the hurricane through Puerto Rico,

01:21:32.750 --> 01:21:35.020
the sinking of the El Faro,

01:21:35.020 --> 01:21:38.930
and there was a lot of
misinformation put into the news

01:21:38.930 --> 01:21:42.360
by a lot of organizations
within Washington, D.C.,

01:21:42.360 --> 01:21:45.893
that so-called institutes and experts.

01:21:47.460 --> 01:21:50.230
I think it's important for
this group to understand

01:21:50.230 --> 01:21:52.340
why we should care about the Jones Act

01:21:53.180 --> 01:21:58.180
and if you could provide a
few tidbits of information

01:21:58.870 --> 01:22:02.340
on how the Association
went ahead and countered

01:22:02.340 --> 01:22:05.610
some what I would say
some false impressions

01:22:05.610 --> 01:22:08.740
or misinformation and
we're not talking about

01:22:08.740 --> 01:22:12.420
just small people, but
like Senator McCain was

01:22:12.420 --> 01:22:16.760
very anti-Jones Act, for
whatever reasons he had.

01:22:16.760 --> 01:22:19.243
But if you could just explain.

01:22:19.243 --> 01:22:21.430
- I thank you for the
question appreciate it.

01:22:21.430 --> 01:22:24.430
I think at a time when we
talk about border security

01:22:24.430 --> 01:22:28.130
it makes me wonder why
we would ever entertain

01:22:28.130 --> 01:22:29.460
repealing the Jones Act.

01:22:29.460 --> 01:22:31.700
It's the eyes and ears on our waterway,

01:22:31.700 --> 01:22:34.173
it's our literal coastal security line.

01:22:35.459 --> 01:22:38.120
After 9/11, I don't know
if many people know this,

01:22:38.120 --> 01:22:40.710
but there was a massive Sealift operation

01:22:40.710 --> 01:22:42.550
to get people off Manhattan.

01:22:42.550 --> 01:22:46.590
Those were all U.S. mariners,
it was small tugboats

01:22:46.590 --> 01:22:50.340
and ships that went to get
our citizeny off the island

01:22:50.340 --> 01:22:52.710
and the fact of the
matter is they were manned

01:22:52.710 --> 01:22:57.710
by U.S. men and women who care
about this country deeply.

01:22:57.940 --> 01:23:00.470
So I think about the Jones
Act the same way I think

01:23:00.470 --> 01:23:03.410
about our exclusive economic
zone, why would we give up

01:23:03.410 --> 01:23:05.920
200 miles of exclusive
economic zone, we wouldn't.

01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:08.570
And we shouldn't be entertaining
giving up the Jones Act

01:23:08.570 --> 01:23:12.030
for some misguided free trade argument.

01:23:12.030 --> 01:23:14.210
There is not free trade when
it comes to shipbuilding

01:23:14.210 --> 01:23:18.150
and down to our founding
fathers, they saw the wisdom

01:23:18.150 --> 01:23:21.120
in having a cabotage laws to make sure our

01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:25.230
water-borne commerce is ours
and our borders are secure.

01:23:25.230 --> 01:23:28.250
So, I'm passionate about the Jones Act,

01:23:28.250 --> 01:23:31.170
I'm passionate about the
men and women that serve

01:23:31.170 --> 01:23:35.521
in our coastal waterways
and our inland waterways.

01:23:35.521 --> 01:23:39.160
I don't think we'd ever
want to have foreign vessels

01:23:39.160 --> 01:23:41.700
moving dangerous cargoes
under our bridges,

01:23:41.700 --> 01:23:42.920
next to our stadiums.

01:23:42.920 --> 01:23:45.450
I think that should be kept for us to do.

01:23:45.450 --> 01:23:47.710
Similar ways we treat
our airline industries,

01:23:47.710 --> 01:23:50.210
we don't have planes that land in New York

01:23:50.210 --> 01:23:52.630
and then go on to Philadelphia and L.A.,

01:23:52.630 --> 01:23:56.980
those are contained for
U.S. pilots and crews.

01:23:56.980 --> 01:23:59.730
I think the build requirements
are absolutely critical

01:23:59.730 --> 01:24:03.010
because it's the most
manipulated industry in the world

01:24:03.010 --> 01:24:05.610
and if we don't maintain some semblance

01:24:05.610 --> 01:24:09.030
of an industrial base here
we will lose it rapidly.

01:24:09.030 --> 01:24:12.930
And I would argue proposals
like Senator Wicker

01:24:12.930 --> 01:24:15.570
who's proposing energizing
shipbuilding act

01:24:15.570 --> 01:24:18.220
which would require a
certain amounts of our energy

01:24:18.220 --> 01:24:22.480
resources go on U.S.-built
vessels and international

01:24:22.480 --> 01:24:24.120
commerce is something we
should be entertaining

01:24:24.120 --> 01:24:25.600
at this point and time.

01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:27.310
Congressman Garamendi
has introduced similar

01:24:27.310 --> 01:24:28.810
legislation on the House side.

01:24:28.810 --> 01:24:31.680
I think we are a maritime
nation, we are an Arctic

01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:35.880
nation, we should double down on the fact

01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:37.940
that we need an industrial
base to build the next

01:24:37.940 --> 01:24:40.510
generation of ships, and autonomous ships,

01:24:40.510 --> 01:24:42.150
and all those things.

01:24:42.150 --> 01:24:44.930
And certainly we're
very, very proud of our

01:24:44.930 --> 01:24:47.560
world-class Navy shipbuilders
and Coast Guard shipbuilders

01:24:47.560 --> 01:24:48.920
and other governmental shipbuilders,

01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.183
but we really need that industrial base

01:24:51.183 --> 01:24:53.080
and I think the Jones Act is the one thing

01:24:53.080 --> 01:24:54.160
that keeps that here.

01:24:54.160 --> 01:24:56.160
If you look outwards,
everyone's subsidizing

01:24:56.160 --> 01:24:59.730
this industry and we'll
lose that foothold.

01:24:59.730 --> 01:25:02.280
So thank you for the
question, I appreciate it.

01:25:02.280 --> 01:25:04.600
- Okay, I think we have
time for one, maybe two more

01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:06.600
questions, we'll see how
we're doing time-wise.

01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:07.610
So sir, over to you.

01:25:07.610 --> 01:25:08.850
- [Audience Member] Thank
you, good morning, gentlemen,

01:25:08.850 --> 01:25:10.410
thank you for sharing your time with us.

01:25:10.410 --> 01:25:12.610
I'm Herbert Tinsley with GAL.

01:25:12.610 --> 01:25:14.860
Question for Admiral Moton.

01:25:14.860 --> 01:25:17.390
After, we've talked about
this sort of evolutionary

01:25:17.390 --> 01:25:19.700
perspective on the Ford specifically.

01:25:19.700 --> 01:25:21.860
Wondered in light of
that you might talk a bit

01:25:21.860 --> 01:25:26.050
about where you see the
LCS going post-2016 program

01:25:26.050 --> 01:25:28.820
review, what challenges
do you see, what successes

01:25:28.820 --> 01:25:31.983
do you see in terms of
implementation with that assessment.

01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:36.400
- Sure, well I can give my
perspective of that, right?

01:25:36.400 --> 01:25:40.790
As I said, the 19 LCSs are delivered.

01:25:40.790 --> 01:25:45.790
So there's 19 of those ships
that, our surface force

01:25:46.299 --> 01:25:49.040
should give you their
perspective as well on how

01:25:49.040 --> 01:25:49.873
the ships are doing.

01:25:49.873 --> 01:25:52.300
We've got three ships deployed right now

01:25:52.300 --> 01:25:53.713
to the western Pacific.

01:25:55.030 --> 01:25:59.750
One, the Fourth Fleet right
now, again Admiral Brown

01:25:59.750 --> 01:26:01.810
has talked a lot about mainstreaming LCS,

01:26:01.810 --> 01:26:04.048
we have LCSs that have been through the,

01:26:04.048 --> 01:26:08.910
their first basic phase,
their advanced phase training,

01:26:08.910 --> 01:26:12.450
operating with, in support
of carrier strike groups.

01:26:12.450 --> 01:26:17.040
The fleet has taken those ships onboard,

01:26:17.040 --> 01:26:20.490
and is learning how to use them,

01:26:20.490 --> 01:26:24.550
and asking us lots of
questions in terms of potential

01:26:24.550 --> 01:26:26.840
capabilities, in terms of lessons learned

01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:29.860
to improvement liability as
we get more operating time

01:26:29.860 --> 01:26:30.693
on the ships.

01:26:30.693 --> 01:26:32.570
I mean it's a pretty exciting time.

01:26:32.570 --> 01:26:36.910
From my perspective,
there's of course challenges

01:26:36.910 --> 01:26:40.320
that we've had to work through,
but from my perspective

01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:42.570
as PEO, I think that the
decisions that were made

01:26:42.570 --> 01:26:45.790
in 2016 for LCS were the right decisions

01:26:45.790 --> 01:26:49.840
and we are getting, because
we're still able to forward

01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:53.820
deploy those ships and
have the multiple crews,

01:26:53.820 --> 01:26:56.050
Admiral Brown talks about
we're gonna have 66 crews

01:26:56.050 --> 01:26:57.853
here, think about it, shortly.

01:26:58.730 --> 01:27:00.570
We are getting a lot of
capability out of that,

01:27:00.570 --> 01:27:02.540
and it's just beginning.

01:27:02.540 --> 01:27:04.220
The Fourth Fleet's doing things,

01:27:04.220 --> 01:27:07.423
experimental with the use of those ships.

01:27:09.575 --> 01:27:10.408
Just a lot of capability.

01:27:10.408 --> 01:27:15.023
I tell the folks in my
program offices that hey,

01:27:15.023 --> 01:27:17.757
when the Fleet says hey,
can we put this on a ship,

01:27:17.757 --> 01:27:21.220
can we put this on a ship,
and we're working our

01:27:21.220 --> 01:27:23.060
program of record piece
which is an important

01:27:23.060 --> 01:27:25.470
getting the mission packages finished,

01:27:25.470 --> 01:27:27.840
but I also tell my folks
hey look, we designed

01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:31.490
a fast-service combatant
with empty space and a crane.

01:27:31.490 --> 01:27:33.250
So if we didn't think
we were gonna get a lot

01:27:33.250 --> 01:27:35.620
of questions about what
kind of stuff did we think

01:27:35.620 --> 01:27:39.470
we could put on the ship, then
we were fooling ourselves.

01:27:39.470 --> 01:27:42.330
So we're trying to position
ourselves to help be able

01:27:42.330 --> 01:27:44.700
to answer those questions in the future.

01:27:44.700 --> 01:27:47.720
Clearly, the biggest thing
besides the lessons learned,

01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:51.701
job one for us on the LCS is
finish the mission packages.

01:27:51.701 --> 01:27:54.580
And that's what we're
really singularly focused

01:27:54.580 --> 01:27:58.200
and are really proud that
surface is essentially done

01:27:58.200 --> 01:28:01.393
and moving forward, that
ASW, and finishing out MCM.

01:28:02.330 --> 01:28:03.658
- [Herbert] Thank you.

01:28:03.658 --> 01:28:04.610
- I can get one more question.

01:28:04.610 --> 01:28:06.200
- [Audience Member] Yes
sir, I just want to say

01:28:06.200 --> 01:28:08.440
thank you to the panel
for addressing a lot

01:28:08.440 --> 01:28:11.670
of department issues of
today for the United States.

01:28:11.670 --> 01:28:14.830
My particular question is kind
of centered on my background

01:28:14.830 --> 01:28:18.110
with Homeland Security and
National Target Center.

01:28:18.110 --> 01:28:20.900
I am now the CEO of SE North America,

01:28:20.900 --> 01:28:23.440
and we focus on a lot of
things like oil and gas,

01:28:23.440 --> 01:28:26.420
modernization of fleets,
and we have to talk

01:28:26.420 --> 01:28:27.860
about cost recovery.

01:28:27.860 --> 01:28:29.890
I haven't heard that spoke about today,

01:28:29.890 --> 01:28:33.200
and my question to the
panel is more centered

01:28:33.200 --> 01:28:35.510
on how are we going to focus our objective

01:28:35.510 --> 01:28:39.030
on cost recovery, particularly
within the corrosion space

01:28:39.030 --> 01:28:43.610
25% of the budget for O&M was
spent on corrosion programs

01:28:43.610 --> 01:28:46.860
in 2010, so how can we get
a better cost recovery model

01:28:46.860 --> 01:28:50.030
going forward and kind of
hear your thoughts on that.

01:28:50.030 --> 01:28:51.610
- [Admiral Moore] Let
me let Admiral Schofield

01:28:51.610 --> 01:28:54.180
field that one as the last answer here.

01:28:54.180 --> 01:28:55.890
- It's a great question.

01:28:55.890 --> 01:29:00.500
We know sustainment drives
70% or so of the life set

01:29:00.500 --> 01:29:03.782
costs of assets so your point's right on.

01:29:03.782 --> 01:29:06.780
Coast Guard we live this,
on the corrosion side.

01:29:06.780 --> 01:29:10.340
A lot of it is the
technology piece, to start.

01:29:10.340 --> 01:29:14.300
But really it's good
partnerships with our operational

01:29:14.300 --> 01:29:18.440
commanders and making
sure that they understand

01:29:18.440 --> 01:29:22.080
where the more vulnerable
parts of our ships are

01:29:22.080 --> 01:29:24.610
and systems are on that side

01:29:24.610 --> 01:29:28.590
to maintain those systems
better downstream.

01:29:28.590 --> 01:29:30.170
That's obviously been a challenge.

01:29:30.170 --> 01:29:32.820
We've got a lot of systems out there,

01:29:32.820 --> 01:29:36.120
particularly now today
with our new modeling,

01:29:36.120 --> 01:29:39.360
we try to save a lot of weight
with specialized alloys,

01:29:39.360 --> 01:29:41.590
which cause a lot of corrosion issues.

01:29:41.590 --> 01:29:43.950
So we got to continue
to watch that, make sure

01:29:43.950 --> 01:29:46.620
we build that into our
risk factors in the design

01:29:46.620 --> 01:29:50.600
up front to get that life
cycle look on those systems.

01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.810
For the overall cost life
cycle cost and sustainment.

01:29:53.810 --> 01:29:57.140
The big piece of that,
really that cost trade off

01:29:57.140 --> 01:30:00.150
up front, and we continue to do that.

01:30:00.150 --> 01:30:01.950
There has been great technology out there,

01:30:01.950 --> 01:30:04.360
particularly on the scanning
side, for hull forms.

01:30:04.360 --> 01:30:06.883
We've done scanning on our current ships.

01:30:07.795 --> 01:30:12.795
Airborne that have thousands
of points of analysis,

01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:15.500
computerized that you can use as a basis,

01:30:15.500 --> 01:30:17.793
and then continue to
update over the years,

01:30:17.793 --> 01:30:19.770
you can see that degradation on systems

01:30:20.830 --> 01:30:23.640
and you can decide what
actions you're gonna take

01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:26.360
based on modeling or other risk factors.

01:30:26.360 --> 01:30:28.000
So that's been a really positive piece

01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:30.320
that industry's brought to us to improve

01:30:30.320 --> 01:30:33.260
and keep our ships 60
years plus out there.

01:30:33.260 --> 01:30:35.480
And other systems out
there, aircraft as well.

01:30:35.480 --> 01:30:38.207
Take an aircraft out to 30,000 hours,

01:30:38.207 --> 01:30:41.547
both rotor wing and fixed
wing aircraft as well,

01:30:41.547 --> 01:30:43.923
and that's a challenge on that side.

01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:45.753
- [Audience Member] Thank you sir.

01:30:45.753 --> 01:30:48.510
- [Admiral Moore] Well
we've 24 seconds left.

01:30:48.510 --> 01:30:50.959
So I think we've managed this pretty well.

01:30:50.959 --> 01:30:52.910
- That's great.

01:30:52.910 --> 01:30:57.910
We really obviously have our
shipbuilding in good hands.

01:30:59.894 --> 01:31:01.590
A lot of talented people up on this stage

01:31:01.590 --> 01:31:02.970
and they're obviously doing a great job.

01:31:02.970 --> 01:31:04.320
So let's thank them

01:31:05.252 --> 01:31:08.252
(audience applause)

01:31:11.974 --> 01:31:15.410
there are lunches are
available for purchase

01:31:15.410 --> 01:31:16.643
during the break.

