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- Oh gosh.

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- Three legged dog walks
into an old western saloon,

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sits at the bar, looks at
the barkeeper and says,

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I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

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- No, no, I don't want
to give that a laugh.

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I'm not, that's why
I'm not looking at you.

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(laughs)

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But I get it.

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- That's my new favorite joke.

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- I get it.

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- Of all time.

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- It's a joke.

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(laughs)

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♪ So let me see your reflective belt ♪

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♪ Let me see your reflective belt ♪

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♪ So let me see your reflective belt ♪

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♪ You better put it on,
better better put it on ♪

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♪ You better put it on,
better better put it on ♪

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♪ You better put it on,
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- Welcome to a very special
episode of The Reflective Belt.

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If anybody's paying attention
you know we normally

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put these out every other Thursday.

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Catastrophic weather events excluded,

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so we would like to start
off by saying you know,

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our thoughts are with everybody that's

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been effected by hurricane Michael,

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and everybody at Tyndall Air Force Base.

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It looks pretty bad out there
so just continue to stay safe.

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General Holmes, COMACC, put
out a statement earlier today,

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if you get a moment, check out his page

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and see what he had to say.

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- Hits home a little bit man.

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That was my first base.

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- I've never been there.

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- Yeah, I love it, it was a good base.

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Mainly because there was a beach on it so,

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yeah it hits home a little bit.

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I know some friends and stuff there,

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checked to make sure they were good.

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You know most of them you
know they got out of there

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or something like that.

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But for those who did stay you know,

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it was a little difficult
getting in touch with them,

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but they're good.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] That's good to hear.

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- Yeah.

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- Glad everybody got to a safe space,

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'cause this one hit a lot faster.

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- Yeah.

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- We kind of had to, we had a
little scare here for Florence

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but we had plenty of time to prepare.

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- A lot of time.

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- This one it was just like,
oh there's a hurricane,

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and the next thing I know.

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- And there it is.

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- They were like if you
haven't evacuated yet,

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stay where you are.

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(laughs)

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So again, we'll have
information on that up on our

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Facebook page, Twitter,
as it becomes available.

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Right now I think they're
still saying don't bother

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going back there right
now, it's still not safe.

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- Stay where you are,
please stay where you are.

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Until everything gets cleared up.

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- Alright, and then back
to why we're doing this

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very special edition,
making it a weekly podcast,

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instead of a bi-weekly podcast.

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- [Airman] At least for this time.

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- Bi-weekly, bi-lingual broadcast.

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- Bifocal.

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- Bifocal podcast.

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- Ah, see what we did there.

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- Chief, Command Chief of
ACC, Chief Batten came in

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and I had the liberty to speak
with him for a little bit,

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and we wanted to get this stuff out sooner

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rather than later 'cause we
have quite a bit of interviews

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we need to get through
here in the upcoming months

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leading up to the end of the year.

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So without further ado, your
Command Chief, Chief Batten.

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Okay so, joining me today
Command Chief, ACC, Chief Batten,

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welcome back sir.

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- Thanks, thanks for having me.

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- Thanks for coming back,

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as you can tell the new
uniforms have finally arrived.

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- [Chief Batten] Got the OCPs on yes.

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- Got them OCPs.

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- And we brought reflective
belts today so alls good.

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- We're always be
reflecting, gotta stay safe.

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So Chief we'll go right to
it, AFA was not too long ago,

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Chief Wright went up and he
talked about some things,

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he spoke primarily about resiliency,

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which I have a feeling we'll get into.

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But upfront he talked a little
bit about hybrid airmen,

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and hybrid airmen concept.

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And I'm gonna be honest,

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when I heard him talking
about it all I could think

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about was Marines.

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A Marine's first job is to kill

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and then whatever else is his other job.

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Are we, how would that work for us?

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'Cause when you think of Airmen
you don't typically think.

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- Yeah I think it works more
in how we're talking about

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fighting future base fights
with like adaptive basing

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and things so if let's say we have,

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we gotta drop F-22's, F-35's
into some strip somewhere right

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so you're gonna have defenders
go in clear the airstrip,

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make sure it's secure, we're
gonna land some aircraft in,

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we're probably gonna
have some POL guys there

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putting fuel in them.

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You're gonna have some
weapons guys that are there

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loading weapons so you're
gonna have more what we've

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done for many years where
you're kind of checked out

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on other tasks you know like
a sheet metal guy like myself

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can be checked out on
some crew chief tasks,

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to where then I can help
them out with something.

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So that's what I see it as.

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So maybe that POL guy's
gonna maybe be the third man

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on the load crew or something like that,

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to help put munitions on an aircraft,

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to reload it, to get it out.

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Maybe the armament guy's
gonna be the guy that's

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helping fueling aircraft.

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I don't see it as something
that we're all gonna get

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cut trained on everything.

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Like I'm gonna get cut
trained on doing interviews

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and your gonna get cut
trained on doing what I do.

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So I think it's for more
of that adaptive basing

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and the fight we're gonna
have to fight in the future

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that you're gonna have
to be able to do more

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than just your job.

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- Okay.

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- That's what I see it as.

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- Gonna have to get some more
inter squadron communication

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going there 'cause as far as I remember.

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- Many squadrons in
AFSE's functional areas,

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they do that now like I said,

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where they cut train somebody
into a different portion

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of what they, whether it's
not solely in their functional

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area maybe it's close to what they do.

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- Yeah, I've seen that
a lot in maintenance.

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Outside of maintenance, not a whole lot,

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so I'd be interested to see it.

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And yeah, I don't think it's a bad idea.

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- But I mean if you think sometimes right,

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so even security forces
augmentees right I mean

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that's a cut train right.

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So if I have a personnelist
or I have a civil engineer guy

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that I need to go out and
sit in a defensive fighting

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DFP you know what I mean,

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he can sit out there and guard a base,

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he can work the flight
line, things like that.

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You know what I mean, so
we do a little bit of it,

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heck even when I was at Misawa,

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you know we have people
that are trained up

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that are on snow removal
teams you know what I mean

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that was primarily kind of
like a roads and grounds

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or a dirtboy type of a job,
but you can train people on it.

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But you're absolutely correct,

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it's not something that's widely
done across the Air Force.

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- And then another
thing he spoke about was

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enlisted PME changes.

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And I guess all of them are getting,

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I don't know if they're
wiping the board clean with

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everything and starting over,

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or they're just revamping everything.

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- No I think what we're
talking more is going

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and doing an actual beginning
to end review you know

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and really determining what the,

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I think over time what
we've dealing with our

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enlisted professional military education,

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it might be the same on the officer side

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I'm just not as attuned with it,

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is we've added things, we've
taken some things away,

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and we just kind of plug
and play versus going

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and saying what is the outcome.

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What is it that I need a
Staff Sergeant, Tech Sergeant,

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Master Sergeant to be ready
to do when they're finished,

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what am I getting out of this course.

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And then putting the things
into that course that

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will get us to the end product.

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Focus on readiness, focus on you know,

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I've asked for a little bit
of even functional focus

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you know what I mean you know
where we can teach people

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how to be professionals within
their core functional groups.

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But that's what we're looking
at is kind of beginning

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to end review and how
they translate right.

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So how you go from ALS
and how maybe an NCOPE

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to an NCO academy to a Senior NCOPE to a

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Senior NCO academy on to
a Chief leadership course

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and how they all kind of string together

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and get you a final product
of what you're looking for.

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- I have a very probably dumb idea for it,

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and it only comes up
because I've seen this,

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we go through all these
trainings and I'm sitting there

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and I'm like, more so in my old job,

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but still it happens today,

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people will be like hey
make an Excel spreadsheet

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about this and have it
do this, this, and this.

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And I was like, I don't ever
remember getting trained

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on how to do Excel spreadsheets,

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like maybe they're doing
it now in high school

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but when I went through, they existed,

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but we didn't ever use them.

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And it was just kind of
like I got to a job one day

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and they expected me to
know how to do all this

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and I was like what is happening,

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I don't know how to do
any of what you're saying,

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and I think that applies to
a lot of the other stuff,

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Powerpoints and just other,

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I think we need like, I
don't want to say a course,

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but I mean like a little
snippet in ALS or something

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like this is how you're
gonna use this 'cause

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this is good for tracking.

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- Yeah I guess I, the problem
with PME right is that

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we're typically confined to a timeline,

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versus confined to what
we want to get out of it,

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we confine ourselves to a timeline

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and we try and cram
everything into that timeline.

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And that's a problem that
we would have with some

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of these functions.

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Like think Outlook, there
is so many things you can do

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on Outlook that many of
us are not reaching our

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potential on how we work through Outlook.

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And many of us we use
that on the daily basis,

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but we don't have an Outlook class right.

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So I think there's definite
benefit on what you're

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saying especially in
Excel, Outlook, Powerpoint,

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a lot of the Microsoft products.

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But what I would say is
don't wait for the Air Force.

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Right so if we find a local
expert that's good at it,

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then man have a course
on it in your squadron

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or something like that,
have it in your work center,

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I mean I've got a good
friend of mine that's

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a wizard at Outlook, I've
learned a few tips off of him,

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but I'd love to get him
in to teach a class,

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you know what I mean and
just give me a six hour block

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one day and I can teach people
and you take something out.

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But a lot of times what we do
is we wait for the Air Force,

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or try to wait for the Air
Force, or blame the Air Force,

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that this hasn't happened,
this hasn't happened,

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a lot of times, shoot,

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we can solve a lot of issues on our own.

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- YouTube university.

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- That's it.

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- That's what I ended up having to do,

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but it was a shock, I literally
just one day I walked in.

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- What I'm saying is that
once you learn something,

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versus making all your
Airmen have to do the same

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that you as Staff Sergeant Reynolds goes

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and grabs them up and says hey guys, gals,

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let me show you what I
learned, you know what I mean.

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That's what I'm saying is kinda
you give back, that's all.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] I agree.

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- It's not a dumb idea,

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it's just I don't know
how much time we can

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you know devote to everything.

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I think we do need to
have more practical pieces

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to our professional
military education versus

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all theoretical and big ideas.

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We need to put people
in scenario based things

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and walk 'em through and
have some discussion items

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on that and more practicality
versus just philosophical

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discussion about hey what
would you do in this situation.

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- 'Cause when I think back about it,

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that's all I can remember really is like,

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well we gotta see who's
what kind of person

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and how do you adapt to these
people, and like alright well.

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- That's funny you say that,

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you know I've done some of those tests,

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I couldn't tell you what
kind of person, I haven't,

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people may say it's dumb
right that I don't retain

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that information on it,

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but all I know is that
people are different.

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(laughs)

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Right, I know that.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] That's
all you need to know.

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- And I don't need to
know if your color's blue

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or orange or whatever it is,

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I just need to know you right.

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And I can do that without
those type of things.

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Some people like the bucket people

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and put them in these categories,
just like generational,

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they're like the bucket millennials.

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You know all millennials are this way,

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I don't need to say
millennials are that way,

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shoot they span a 20 plus you know we have

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Senior Master Sergeants in our Air Force

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that are millennials.

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And you know A1C's that are millennials.

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I just need to know
people and not bucket 'em.

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If I bucket 'em what I end
up doing is then I start

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treating people all alike
and I miss the point

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on how to really lead people
and know they're different

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and I have to do different
things for different people.

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- There's just people.

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You can't talk to one
person the same way you

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talk to another person.

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Very rarely does that ever work out.

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- Exactly, but to your point though,

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with the ALS stuff right is
that we would like to put

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them in a bin right,

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we'd like to be able to
put them in this orange bin

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and say that all these
people are all the same right

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and this is how you need
and this is what they're,

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well they're not.

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There's tinges of this in people

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and there's tinges of that in people

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and you just gotta know your people.

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- So leaping right out of EPME's and ALS,

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all these new Staff Sergeants
are getting ready to

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go through, 51 and some
change percent made it.

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Any words of wisdom from
all your years of leadership

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for them coming up ?

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- All my years, you know much
of what we just chatted about,

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you know what I mean,

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and what I would say to
the new Staff Sergeants,

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51% promotion rate is awesome.

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People can say whatever
they like to say about that,

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that's awesome.

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That means that we had a
certain quantity of people

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that we needed promoted,

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we identified them through
our promotion process

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and now they're gonna get
to sew on the next stripe.

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It's gonna be I think
roughly 15,600 and something

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that are gonna get to be
Staff Sergeants, we need 'em.

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You know as we're growing our Air Force

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to roughly that 329,000
on the active duty side,

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we need Staff Sergeants.

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We need first line supervisors
to take those three levels

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and train them and teach
them how to be functionally

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competent and capable in their positions

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and ready to go and take
the fight wherever it be,

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whether it's deployed
in place to the enemy

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and we need them to lead their Airmen.

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We need them to care about their Airmen,

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we need them to understand their Airmen.

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- Regardless of what color
block they fall into.

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- Regardless of what color block.

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But one thing you do need, you
need to know yourself right.

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And you know yourself and
you need to know your people.

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The other flip side of it
is that's important that

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we need these Staff
Sergeants to out and lead,

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but they need help too right.

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They need training too.

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They need Tech Sergeants,
Master Sergeants,

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Senior Master Sergeants,
Chief Master Sergeants

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to take them by the hand and lead them

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and teach them what it means
to be a good supervisor.

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Much of it you learn right,

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you learn it either through your PME,

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you learn it through examples,

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you've had a supervisor that
you've liked or didn't like

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and you pick these things up.

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But yeah I tell you it
goes back to what I said

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a minute ago, there's so
many things that we can fix

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in our Air Force that
we don't need to wait on

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our Air Force to fix for us.

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And those Staff Sergeants,
you Staff Sergeant,

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are probably one of the
most critical pieces

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in that whole puzzle on how
we get after all the things

14:52.060 --> 14:53.110
we need to get after.

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- Those are inspiring words.

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I'm gonna go and go lead my
one Airman very strongly now.

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- But I'll go a little bit further right,

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so resilience right, I just
was visiting Fort Mead,

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you've been to Fort Mead I believe,

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your school is up there.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] Just got back.

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- So I was up at Fort Mead and
I got a chance to recognize

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a couple Airmen, that's
typical on a visit,

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I get information that
I get first off is just

15:22.070 --> 15:23.990
to understand the scenarios,

15:23.990 --> 15:26.080
some is to take back
and have our staff work,

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some of it's to work with
the headquarters Air Force,

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and then I get a chance
to just thank Airmen

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and recognize them for their
outstanding performance.

15:31.990 --> 15:34.050
And two of the Airmen
that I got to recognize,

15:34.050 --> 15:37.060
they were young NCOs, their
supervisors were telling me

15:37.080 --> 15:38.234
about their accomplishments.

15:38.234 --> 15:43.234
And it was inspiring to
see a supervisor know,

15:44.620 --> 15:46.554
and it wasn't reading off a paper,

15:46.554 --> 15:48.730
they knew what this Airmen did

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and how much of an impact they had.

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And I asked the Airmen I said,

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hey how did that make you feel?

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And it made them feel proud,

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one of them I thought we
were all gonna get teared up

15:57.620 --> 16:00.100
there for a minute because
I mean they hadn't heard

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somebody talk about them in that way,

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with that much passion,

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and that's how you make people
feel that they're wanted

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and they're part of an
organization that they

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want to be a part of
is by caring about them

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and doing everything you can
to help make them better.

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And when you have that and
you have increased resilience,

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you know what I mean and the
fact they're able to bounce

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back after things because
they know you're gonna look

16:20.770 --> 16:23.410
out for them, they have
somebody they can go talk to

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'cause they know that you're
willing to listen to them.

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Anyway, the job of a supervisor,
especially at that level,

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man it's the best job in the world.

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It really is, it's the
best job in the world,

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to be able to have that kind of impact

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on somebody else's life.

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- When that is your primary focus,

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when you can just push
everything like yeah I know

16:45.260 --> 16:47.813
how to do all that now,
I'm gonna help you,

16:47.890 --> 16:50.308
because was when I was in your position,

16:50.308 --> 16:52.420
either somebody helped me or they didn't

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and I want to make sure that I
can do or not do that for you

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and yeah I think it is
definitely one of the most

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rewarding things you can do.

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- Well it's in a way, and people
can comment on this or not,

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but it's kind of like children
right, having children.

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- [SSgt Reynolds]
Government issued children.

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- Well I wouldn't say that.

17:14.500 --> 17:15.530
- [SSgt Reynolds] I've been referred to as

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a government issued child before.

17:17.344 --> 17:18.383
- I wouldn't say that, but
saying I have two daughters,

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I have a 24 year old and
an 18 year old daughter.

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And the goal of being a
parent right is first off

17:23.220 --> 17:24.770
you love your children,
you care about them,

17:24.770 --> 17:26.880
you want to do everything
you can to make them,

17:26.880 --> 17:27.957
or to help them be successful,

17:27.957 --> 17:29.414
not to make them be successful.

17:29.414 --> 17:32.388
And you want to give them
things that maybe you

17:32.388 --> 17:33.960
weren't afforded right,

17:33.960 --> 17:36.030
you want to make them
just a little bit better,

17:36.030 --> 17:37.903
and that's what the world is about right,

17:37.903 --> 17:39.153
just a little bit better.

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And that's what you get
with an Airman right,

17:41.860 --> 17:44.170
you get this Airman that
comes behind you that

17:44.170 --> 17:46.760
you get to try and make just
a little bit better than you,

17:46.760 --> 17:50.270
you get to do just a few things
to make them more successful

17:50.270 --> 17:52.020
or make them and it's not a competition,

17:52.020 --> 17:54.950
it just a hey someday I want you to be,

17:54.950 --> 17:57.310
whatever you want to be I
want to help you get to that

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point in life, in all aspects.

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- You think that we'll ever
bring back the at least

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time in service, time in
rank, time in service,

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'cause when they complete,

18:12.300 --> 18:16.320
when they took down
how many points you got

18:16.320 --> 18:18.100
I was like yeah that 100% makes sense,

18:18.100 --> 18:20.450
there's a lot of people
that are just coasting.

18:20.900 --> 18:22.470
But when they completely got rid of it,

18:22.470 --> 18:25.900
the very next time I noticed
a lot of people made it

18:25.900 --> 18:28.763
that just in my little
unit that I was like,

18:28.810 --> 18:30.863
you're probably like, you're brand new.

18:31.136 --> 18:33.030
'Cause I feel like to be
a good supervisor you have

18:33.030 --> 18:36.480
to have some experience and if
you don't have any experience

18:36.480 --> 18:40.193
I don't know how you're gonna
lead 'cause you don't know.

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I mean it happens, there
are natural born leaders

18:43.490 --> 18:46.060
that can just get thrown into
any situation and handle it

18:46.060 --> 18:48.469
but a lot of it comes from
I've been here before,

18:48.469 --> 18:50.233
I know what to do.

18:50.470 --> 18:52.540
And we have a lot of people
that have not been here

18:52.540 --> 18:53.900
before and they don't know what to do

18:53.900 --> 18:56.803
and now they're in charge of other people.

18:56.950 --> 18:58.970
- That's a good question
and we get it a lot.

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I might run a couple
minutes long on this one.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] That's fine.

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- I don't think the way
we did it before was bad,

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I don't think for the most
part we didn't have people

19:08.950 --> 19:11.900
that were getting promoted that
we shouldn't have promoted.

19:12.383 --> 19:14.450
There were some that were
the benefit of the doubt,

19:14.450 --> 19:15.790
that if they stayed in long enough,

19:15.790 --> 19:18.243
they get enough points and
they ended up getting promoted.

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To our more senior ranks that
doesn't happen in this time

19:21.360 --> 19:22.930
just based upon the board process,

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so we're able to look at that.

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As far as time in grade
and bringing it back,

19:26.970 --> 19:31.100
so just it's an interesting
discussion 'cause if you look

19:31.100 --> 19:32.694
at our promotion process now,

19:32.694 --> 19:37.003
if the three, there's another person here,

19:37.160 --> 19:39.910
if the three of us were all
promoted to Staff Sergeant,

19:40.025 --> 19:41.653
and you had a must promote,

19:41.686 --> 19:43.893
and I have a promote,
and you have a promote,

19:44.080 --> 19:47.100
which by the way, about
58 almost 60% of those

19:47.100 --> 19:49.563
promoted to Staff Sergeant
this year had promotes,

19:50.100 --> 19:52.400
but I test pretty good but not great.

19:52.400 --> 19:54.453
I test probably in the mid 50's,

19:54.752 --> 19:56.340
you know what I mean I study my butt off,

19:56.340 --> 19:58.550
about mid 50's, maybe low 60's.

19:58.550 --> 20:00.700
Maybe it's my upbringing,
maybe I just never was good

20:00.700 --> 20:04.550
at comprehending, maybe I'm
just not applying myself right.

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You test about the same as I do.

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And my counterpart over
here they're phenomenal,

20:09.150 --> 20:11.330
they go in there and they
have that book smart to them,

20:11.330 --> 20:12.893
they can 85 every time.

20:13.222 --> 20:16.910
So you get promoted 'cause
you had a few points above me

20:16.910 --> 20:18.120
based on your must promote.

20:18.120 --> 20:20.340
She got promoted 'cause
she tested better than me,

20:20.340 --> 20:22.760
I didn't get promoted and
then we go to next year

20:24.460 --> 20:25.580
and I'm in the same position.

20:25.580 --> 20:27.610
There's another must
promote I'm testing against,

20:27.610 --> 20:29.880
probably somebody else now
that tests better than me,

20:29.880 --> 20:32.530
and I never have an opportunity
to make up those points.

20:32.530 --> 20:36.390
So unless I go and find
a better way to test

20:36.390 --> 20:37.538
or a better way to study.

20:37.538 --> 20:41.326
So it does put us in a different
way as far as promotion,

20:41.326 --> 20:44.563
and then go to the time,
so that's the last piece,

20:44.810 --> 20:46.260
you said time and experience.

20:46.435 --> 20:49.910
There's no doubt that
some people experience

20:49.910 --> 20:52.760
is what they need to get
to be a better leader,

20:52.760 --> 20:54.750
better supervisor, better
at whatever they do.

20:54.750 --> 20:56.383
Some people don't need the time,

20:56.580 --> 20:58.470
some people just have a knack for things,

20:58.470 --> 21:00.280
some people maybe in their previous life

21:00.280 --> 21:02.193
before they came in the Air Force already.

21:02.300 --> 21:04.810
So our Air Force has
established minimum criteria

21:04.810 --> 21:05.853
to make rank right?

21:05.940 --> 21:08.570
There's minimum criteria, time
in grade, time in service,

21:08.570 --> 21:09.410
that's a minimum.

21:09.410 --> 21:11.800
We as an Air Force have
said that hey you're allowed

21:11.800 --> 21:14.300
to be a Staff Sergeant at
this point in your life.

21:14.550 --> 21:15.670
You're allowed to be a Tech Sergeant

21:15.670 --> 21:16.990
at this point in your life.

21:16.990 --> 21:18.680
We've established those minimum criteria.

21:18.680 --> 21:22.996
So the answer for to the
Air Force wouldn't be to

21:22.996 --> 21:25.960
bring time in grade, time in
service to get after that,

21:25.960 --> 21:29.070
if we felt that you
shouldn't supervise until

21:29.070 --> 21:30.980
you're a five year Staff Sergeant,

21:30.980 --> 21:33.930
then change the time in grade requirement.

21:33.930 --> 21:35.200
You know what I mean?

21:35.200 --> 21:36.750
Which I don't think we need to do,

21:36.750 --> 21:38.140
I think that we did it right.

21:38.140 --> 21:40.740
And I said it was the last thing,

21:40.740 --> 21:42.280
but the last thing I'll leave you with.

21:42.280 --> 21:45.330
So I don't know that I've
gone into any position

21:45.330 --> 21:46.900
that I've ever had in the Air Force

21:46.900 --> 21:50.173
and I felt 100% confident that
I was ready to do that job.

21:51.010 --> 21:52.780
You know I don't care if
it was the first time they

21:52.780 --> 21:54.867
gave me an Airman and I'm an NCO,

21:55.310 --> 21:57.010
first time I was running a shift,

21:57.010 --> 21:59.450
first time I was a section
chief, a flight chief,

21:59.450 --> 22:01.763
command chief, MAJCOM command chief,

22:01.900 --> 22:03.983
that I walked into that job and said man.

22:04.706 --> 22:05.539
- I got this.

22:05.539 --> 22:07.250
- I got this, I always
walked into it like,

22:07.250 --> 22:08.700
man I'm gonna need some help.

22:09.200 --> 22:11.150
And then I'd reach out to a peer I knew

22:11.150 --> 22:13.470
and say hey what did
you do when you did this

22:13.470 --> 22:15.420
and I had enough supervisors
that would put their

22:15.420 --> 22:17.330
arm around me and say
hey here's some things

22:17.330 --> 22:18.530
you should look out for.

22:19.040 --> 22:22.130
That's where if you promote
somebody that you feel

22:22.130 --> 22:23.810
maybe was a little bit too soon,

22:23.810 --> 22:25.360
or maybe they needed some more experience,

22:25.360 --> 22:29.900
that's where the rest of
the Air Force's opportunity

22:29.900 --> 22:31.783
to help them out and develop them.

22:32.150 --> 22:35.600
But I haven't that we're
talking about time in grade,

22:35.600 --> 22:36.970
time in service points at this point,

22:36.970 --> 22:38.750
but I do know that we're
looking at our promotion

22:38.750 --> 22:42.030
system as a whole and
seeing if we have it right

22:42.030 --> 22:45.490
on how we're identifying the
people to obtain the next level

22:46.090 --> 22:47.990
- I think that's one of
those things where no matter

22:47.990 --> 22:49.500
how many times we tweak it,

22:49.500 --> 22:51.430
there's always gonna be
somebody that's gonna be like,

22:51.430 --> 22:53.396
well it was better when we did this.

22:53.396 --> 22:55.977
Like the way we did it before was fine,

22:55.977 --> 22:59.233
the way we do it now, it's
kind of like the EPRs,

22:59.320 --> 23:02.020
I feel like yeah there's
ways to do it then

23:02.020 --> 23:03.410
that I was like okay I like that better

23:03.410 --> 23:04.430
and then this one I'm like alright,

23:04.430 --> 23:05.780
this one's a little better.

23:06.080 --> 23:08.530
It's just you know, there's
pros and cons on everything

23:08.530 --> 23:10.236
and you just gotta pick
your poison almost.

23:10.236 --> 23:11.930
- I'm a firm believer that we have a,

23:11.930 --> 23:13.819
now of course I was
promoted in this system,

23:13.819 --> 23:15.760
that we have a good system.

23:15.760 --> 23:17.023
It's fair and equitable,

23:17.304 --> 23:22.160
I wouldn't say that we get
it right 100% of the time,

23:22.160 --> 23:23.920
'cause there's people that
we've missed in promotion

23:23.920 --> 23:27.010
cycles based upon AFSCs and things,

23:27.010 --> 23:29.771
just mistakes that our system
makes that we then get right.

23:29.771 --> 23:32.370
'Cause that's where I go
back to where it's 100%

23:32.370 --> 23:34.100
is we always have supplemental looks,

23:34.100 --> 23:35.394
we always have a way to go back

23:35.394 --> 23:38.303
and get things right if we miss something.

23:42.944 --> 23:45.410
I'd have to go back to Chief Gaylor,

23:45.410 --> 23:47.653
you know previous Chief Master
Sergeant of the Air Force,

23:47.977 --> 23:48.810
we were down at the Air Force Sergeants

23:48.810 --> 23:50.070
Association Conference this year,

23:50.070 --> 23:51.720
Professional Airmen's Conference.

23:51.960 --> 23:55.850
He said yeah, you know the
best promotion system right,

23:55.850 --> 23:58.410
the only promotion system I
think works, the best one,

23:58.410 --> 23:59.863
is the one that promotes me.

24:00.176 --> 24:01.009
(laughs)

24:01.009 --> 24:03.040
If I don't get promoted
in the promotion system

24:03.040 --> 24:04.820
then there's a fault to
the promotion system.

24:04.820 --> 24:07.650
There's not, very few
people are willing to say

24:07.650 --> 24:08.943
it's a fault to them.

24:09.060 --> 24:11.480
They're very easy to say it's
a fault with something else.

24:11.480 --> 24:14.824
I've had a Master Sergeant
one time come to me,

24:14.824 --> 24:18.140
missed making Senior Master
Sergeant by let's say

24:18.140 --> 24:20.123
five and a half points.

24:20.720 --> 24:23.127
And their instinct was to come right to me

24:23.127 --> 24:25.780
and say hey Chief I don't
understand my board score,

24:25.780 --> 24:28.803
look at my records and I
only got a 360 board score.

24:28.982 --> 24:30.377
Yeah it was at 360.

24:30.983 --> 24:34.453
Which is a good board score by
the way, it's above average.

24:34.806 --> 24:37.397
And I said yeah, but your
records this and that.

24:37.397 --> 24:39.593
And I said, what'd you score on your test?

24:40.090 --> 24:42.023
And he scored like a 52,

24:42.210 --> 24:44.560
so I said so if your
scored a 58 on your test

24:44.560 --> 24:46.555
you could've made Senior Master Sergeant.

24:46.555 --> 24:47.388
(laughs)

24:47.388 --> 24:49.670
Well yeah, but it's the board's
fault, it's not my fault.

24:49.670 --> 24:51.840
You know what I mean so that's
the thing with promotion

24:51.840 --> 24:56.446
is it's never gonna be
100% for everybody because

24:56.446 --> 24:59.204
if they don't get promoted
they're gonna feel slighted.

24:59.204 --> 25:02.590
EPRs were the same way, when
we all said it was inflated

25:02.660 --> 25:04.020
and everybody got fives.

25:04.020 --> 25:06.240
There wasn't a single
person that had a five

25:06.240 --> 25:08.560
that was gonna raise their
hand and say you know what

25:08.600 --> 25:10.000
I shouldn't have got a five.

25:10.060 --> 25:11.033
- [SSgt Reynolds] Yeah.

25:11.070 --> 25:13.930
- They're looking at you and
saying you shouldn't have

25:13.930 --> 25:15.360
got the five, I should've got it.

25:15.360 --> 25:16.960
- [SSgt Reynolds] I have
a whole story about that,

25:16.960 --> 25:18.619
I'll save that for offline.

25:18.619 --> 25:21.480
- Same with our promotes
now, must promotes,

25:21.480 --> 25:25.420
and promotes right, is
that there's a feel that,

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hey if I don't get it
then it must not be me,

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it must be the system and
I will tell you on that

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is that some of it is just
the sheer numbers 'cause

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we're limited on quotas.

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You know so I got a chance
to be on an enlisted force

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distribution panel, so
I'm the Command Chief,

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I'm an advisor, I don't score them.

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So there's seven squadrons
that bring their number one

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Tech Sergeant, two of them
brought their number one

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and number two Tech Sergeant
to the table for this

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and then the senior raters
at the end of the table,

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out of them we had three quota.

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We had one promote now
and two must promotes.

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There's four units that
leave that process that their

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number one Tech Sergeant
received a promote.

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That's why you go to a promotion
release like we just did

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and 58% of them were promotes.

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'Cause those top performing
NCOs and Airmen are still

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gonna find a way to get promoted.

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They're gonna find a way
to get above that line.

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Anyway.

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- Yeah, I think yeah, we
hammered all those nails.

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Anything else you want to add
for the new Staff Sergeants

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or anything at all going
on in our Air Force?

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- Well there's a lot
going on in our Air Force,

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the only thing I would add
it would go all the way back

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to what we were chatting about earlier,

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is that new leaders in our
Air Force have to understand

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that 100%, that we have their back.

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100% when the Chief of
Staff, General Goldfein,

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with Chief Wright, with
General Holmes, COMACC,

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and I are sitting here
saying we have your back.

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You know go out and do what you need to do

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and identify issues where we can,

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we're gonna support you to
the best of our ability.

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But don't wait, you know what I mean.

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Don't wait to be that bold leader,

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don't wait to teach your
Airmen how to use Excel,

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don't wait to, go out and do it.

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You be the best dang supervisor you can

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and have the best Airmen that work for you

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and do not worry about what
the rest of the Air Force

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is getting after you know what I mean.

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And just keep being good at what you do

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and keep being a great
leader and we'll catch up.

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- Alright well again,
thank you very much for

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joining us again.

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I have yet to come up
with more dumb questions,

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so I think you're safe today.

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- That one you got me with
last time with the chicken,

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or the duck, or the horse
or something like that.

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- Yeah, the duck or the horse.

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Unless, if your life
was gonna be a sitcom,

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what would it be called?

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That's the newest one I got,
Miss Worley gave me that one.

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- Man, what would it be called.

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I think I'd just use like a pun to it,

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it'd be Let's Be Frank.

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(laughs)

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I mean my name is Frank right?

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- Yeah yeah.

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- So Let's Be Frank.

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- Let's Be Frank.

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- Yay, there we go.

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We can start writing the monologues

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and dialogues for it now.

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- Okay, I think it's a great idea,

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we'll get the theme song going too.

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- I need to find something
to do here in about 8 months.

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- Oh yeah.

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- So that might be a way to go.

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- There you go, just
pitch your show to all

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the major networks, they need stuff.

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- Too easy.

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- Alright well thank you sir.

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- Thanks man, I appreciate it.

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- As always, good words
of wisdom from the chief.

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- Yes.

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- I love talking to Chiefs.

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They always have that
real, helpful insight.

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But it's like in a way
that like I understand.

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- Right.

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(laughs)

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It's like oh okay, that's
what so and so meant.

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- Chief put me in my place.

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Very special episode and
we're so glad that you took

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time out of your off week,

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I know that you guys take that time

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and you relax and just hang out
waiting for another episode.

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- Everybody enjoys their bi-weeks.

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- Yeah, their bi-weeks.

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Their bi-focal weeks.

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(laughs)

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So we didn't have any
news this week, I'm sorry,

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we just wanted to hurry up
and get this information out

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to you guys and I hope
you enjoyed the interview

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and again everybody down
there in Florida and Georgia

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and I guess it's still a
hurricane coming on land.

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Stay safe and keep reflecting
in the inclement weather.

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- I see what you did there.

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I like it.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] Let me
see your reflective belt.

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- Fun fact, I did not wear my
reflective belt last week so.

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- [SSgt Reynolds] Did
anybody say anything?

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- No.

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- Shame on you too.

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(laughs)

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