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- Hey good afternoon everybody.

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My name is Major General Roger Cloutier.

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I am the commander of U.S. Army Africa's

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Southern European task force,

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and it's great to be here.

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We appreciate the opportunity

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to present at Warriors Corner.

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On behalf of myself

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and Command Sergeant Major Jeremiah Inman,

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my sergeant major, we look
forward to talking about

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a really important topic,

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and that's growing enlisted
leadership in Africa.

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I can't wait for you to
hear from my sergeant major,

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from Warrant Officer One, Bisalomu,

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and from First Sergeant Lewis,

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who was the first sergeant,
company first sergeant,

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as part of our regionally aligned forces

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from the 10th Mountain Division.

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But before I go any further,
I wanna say a special

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welcome to Major General Sekano,

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the commander of ground forces

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from the Botswanan Defence Forces.

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Welcome sir, we're glad you're here.

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I also wanna welcome our
other African partners

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that are in the audience today.

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So we all know that
non-commissioned officers

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are the backbone of any army,

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and because of that I'm
just gonna tee it up,

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and get out of the way,

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and let the sergeant major get after it.

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But NCO development is something

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that we are passionate about in USARAF,

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and training or doing
operations in the AFRICOM AOR

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really puts a premium on
small-unit leadership.

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Small units working in
austere environments

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in remote locations.

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They work with joint partners,
inter-agency partners,

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multinational partners,

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and Sergeant Major Inman is
gonna give his perspective

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on how Army NCOs benefit from training

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in the African environment.

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Warrant Officer One Bisalomu

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is gonna talk about Malawi's
Sergeant Majors course,

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which has been a great success,

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and modeled after the U.S.
Army Sergeants Major Academy.

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So U.S. Army soldiers help
stand up the Academy in 2014.

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They trained their trainers
as part of the initial course.

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The course is now run entirely

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by the Malawi Defence Force,

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and it's become a regional institution

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graduating more than 240 Sergeants Major,

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males and females, from 18
different African countries.

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We're very, very proud
of this partnership.

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So we've got a short video to show you,

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and then our featured
speakers will take the floor.

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Thank you again for being here,

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and we appreciate all of your support.

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Let's go ahead and roll the video.

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- I would just say that we're doing

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a wonderful job down there.

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Our focus although it's
a very big continent,

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and we sometimes can't get
in there in great numbers.

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It does have a huge impact,

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not just on the military
down there, but the people.

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- [Soldiers] Live,
fight, die hard, oh yeah!

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- You know, as Americans
we don't fight alone,

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and we never intend to.

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It's about building allies

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with our partner nations around the world.

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Africa is one of those key components.

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(rifle firing)

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- It is up to us to bring forward creative

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and viable solutions to these challenges,

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and view each one as an opportunity

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to work with and assist
our African partners,

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not only today but in the future as well.

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(epic music)

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- I'd also like to acknowledge

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the many leaders here representing

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the U.S. government and their agency,

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our allies and our regional partners.

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Thanks for your presence,
thanks for your support,

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and thank you for your
long-standing cooperation.

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The world's stronger
because of our friendship

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and our shared commitment.

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(epic music)

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- Keep it going, keep
it going, keep it going.

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(soldiers chanting)

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- Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen,

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I'm Jeremiah Inman, the
Command Sergeant Major

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for U.S. Army Africa.

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I'd like to thank you for blowing off

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the family forum, and
being here with us today.

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I hope you get a lot
out of it, slide please.

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So every year we hold
Africa Land Forces Summit.

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We'll go down, link up
with our partner nation,

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and find out what topics they would like

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to discuss during that forum.

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The three topics the senior listed leader

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wanted to discuss was roles of the NCO,

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how we educate and promote
NCOs, and NCO empowerment.

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So what I did, I took a kind
of different spin on it,

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and we talked about the
role of the U.S. Army NCO,

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we talked about the STEP program,

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and then we talked about empowerment.

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And I explained the way that
the U.S. Army does things.

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This is what we need from a Sergeant E-5,

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this is what we need from
a Command Sergeant Major.

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We didn't preach at them,

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saying this is how your NCO corp,

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this is how your enlisted
force needs to happen.

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Our Army's been around for
a little over 240 years,

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our NCO program works for
us, here's how we do it.

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If you need assistance
standing up your programs,

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please let us know, and we'll assist you

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with getting after those.

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Next slide please.

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So here you'll see Sergeant
Major Gilpin, my predecessor.

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So he was the one who had the initiative

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to get NCOs invited to ALFS.

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This was only the second
time that NCOs were allowed

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to attend this seminar with
their general officers.

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As you can see, one of our
partners from Zimbabwe.

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There are 53 countries
that we cover down on.

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Each country's army is
a little bit different,

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'cause it's gotta support
the needs of their country.

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That's how they get
after their development.

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At this point, we have about 100 African

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Command Sergeant Majors who have attended

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the U.S. Army Sergeant Majors course.

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Eight graduated last year.

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There are five currently
in the course this year.

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So there is a desire
from our African partners

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to continue educating
our enlisted partners.

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Next slide please.

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So you're probably thinking,

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okay, this is the Army association event,

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why is there an Air Force
dude in the slide, okay?

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This is Chief James.

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He's the command senior
enlisted leader for California.

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We have 11 states that are partnered

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with 13 countries in Africa,

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to assist us with getting
after AFRICOM's priorities.

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At this point here, Chief is briefing

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what the requirements of a staff sergeant

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in the United States Army is.

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Not the Air Force, but the Army.

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So, don't tell Sergeant Major Daley,

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but I did not go to the U.S.
Army Sergeant Majors course.

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All right, I went to the Air
Force senior enlisted course.

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So it doesn't matter
where enlisted and NCOs

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get their education.

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It matters that they get the education

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so they can contribute
to their fighting force.

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Next slide please.

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So here you have a Ghanaian sergeant

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teaching U.S. Army specialists

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basic hand and arm signals.

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We as leaders, need to continue to teach

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and empower our subordinates,

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because they're gonna take
our place here in a few years.

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I was a TAC NCO at West
Point about 15 years ago,

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and today I ran into one of
my cadets who's a SF Major.

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These are the folks
that are gonna continue

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to move our Army forward,

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and we gotta continue to educate them

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and make them stronger.

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In current battle, if
a platoon leader falls,

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an NCO, an enlisted individual,

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will step up and take that
platoon leader's spot.

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If he hasn't been educated properly,

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if he hasn't been trained properly,

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then the mission is probably
not gonna be successful.

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Consider this, if you had to
go in for a medical procedure,

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wouldn't you want a
doctor who was educated

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and trained to perform
the procedure on you?

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I would, next slide please.

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So how does educating our
enlisted contribute to readiness?

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All right, the big buzzword, readiness.

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If we can educate our
partners and ourselves

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to defeat VEO threats before
they come to the homeland,

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that builds readiness.

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If we can teach our
partners and educate them

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to defeat and kill the
folks within their continent

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so we don't have to send
U.S. forces to fight,

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that builds readiness.

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So chief and I were walking

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around the World War II
memorial the other day,

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and I just wanted to quote

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something I saw from President Truman.

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"The heroism of our own was matched

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"by that of the armed
forces of the nations

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"that fought by our side.

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"They absorbed the blows,

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"and they shared the full

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"and the ultimate
destruction of the enemy."

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Hey man, we don't fight alone.

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We fight with our partners.

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If we're educated, it's not only good

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for continent of Africa,
but it's good for the world.

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A great example of an NCO course,

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is the Malawian Sergeant Majors Academy.

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I can't speak very well on it,

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so I'd like to introduce

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Army Warrant Officer Chief Bisalomu,

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basically the Sergeant Major
of the Army for Malawi.

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Chief.

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- Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.

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I'm Warrant Officer One George Bisalomu,

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Defence Force Sergeant
Major, Malawi Defence Force.

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I'm here to outline how
Malawi Defence Force

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Sergeant Major is doing.

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So I will cover the following.

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I will cover when Malawi Defence Force

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Sergeant Major starts.

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I will cover also the partnership

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we have with U.S. Army through AFRICOM.

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Then I will cover the successes of

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Malawi Defence Force
Sergeant Majors Academy.

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Lastly, I will cover the challenges

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we are facing in Malawi Defence Force

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Sergeant Majors course.

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The Malawi Sergeant Majors course

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started four years ago.

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It was 2014 when the first class

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of Sergeant Majors Academy started.

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Before 2014, it was 2011 and 2012

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when U.S. AFRICOM gave
Malawi Defence Force

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one slot, so that Malawi Defence Force

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can send one sergeant major to attend

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sergeant majors course at USASMA.

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After graduating one
sergeant major from there,

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it's when he come back to Malawi

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and convinced the leadership
of Malawi Defence Force.

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So come 2013 is when
the Malawi Defence Force

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authorized to organize and
start Sergeant Majors Academy

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to start in 2014.

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So the purpose of the sergeant
majors course in Malawi

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is to change from
tactical level of thinking

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to operational level of thinking.

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So as of now, I can say that

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the partnership we have

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from Malawi Defence Force
and the U.S. AFRICOM,

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it is very important, and
it is very successful.

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Because through this partnership

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is when the Malawi Defence Force

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started our Sergeant Majors Academy.

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When our sergeant major started in 2014,

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it was U.S. AFRICOM sent two
instructors from the U.S. Army

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to teach the Malawi Defence Force

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sergeants majors course
for the first class.

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After graduating the first class

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is when the two sergeant majors choose

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some instructors from the class 001.

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And the sergeant majors
who assisted Malawi a lot,

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they are Sergeant Major Mikail

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and Sergeant Major Timoswats.

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These two instructors are
serving in Malawi Defence Force

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Sergeant Majors Academy very, very good.

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As I'm talking today, Malawi
Defence Force Sergeant Major,

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we are doing very good.

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Our successes of Malawi
Defence Force Sergeant Major,

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I'm happy to say that
through the partnership

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we have with U.S. AFRICOM
and Malawi Defence Force,

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the partnership is extended to almost

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11 countries from Africa.

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These 11 countries from Africa,

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they have been sending their senior NCOs

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to attend Sergeant Majors Academy.

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I'm happy today to mention one by one

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of the countries, which
they send their NCOs

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to Malawi Defence Force
Sergeant Majors Academy.

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But before I mention that countries

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a number of graduates who graduated from

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Malawi Defence Force
Sergeant Majors course.

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I would like to say this.

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The Sergeant Majors Academy is free.

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When there are other countries from Africa

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send their NCOs to attend the course

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in Malawi Defence Force,
we don't charge anything.

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They don't pay anything.

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We just send the invitation

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to our sister countries in Africa.

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When they come to Malawi, they just learn,

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and they do everything
freely, no pay at all.

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So I'm happy to say that.

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So I would like to, I'll tell you

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how the numbers, which African countries

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graduated from Malawi Defence Force.

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Firstly, Zambia, 13 graduates from Zambia.

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There are also seven
graduates from Zimbabwe.

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We have almost eight graduates
from Botswana Defence Force.

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Five from the Kingdom of
Lesotho, five graduates.

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From Tanzania, four graduates.

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Kenya, one graduate.

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Mozambique, five graduates.

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Nigeria, five, Namibia,
four, and Rwanda, eight.

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So this is the successes of

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Malawi Defence Force Sergeant Majors.

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Apart from this, the sergeant majors

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who attended this course
in Malawi Defence Force,

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they are now in the high position.

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They're holding the position
of regimental sergeant majors,

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brigade sergeant majors,

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and even the company sergeant majors.

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I myself, as I'm now,
I'm a graduate from the

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first class of the
Sergeant Majors Academy.

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But despite these successes,

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Malawi Defence Force
Sergeant Majors Academy,

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first thing, a lot of challenges.

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Some of these challenges
are infrastructures.

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As Malawi Defence Force
Sergeant Majors started,

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we just started using the infrastructure

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of Malawi Armed Forces College.

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As of now, we don't have
our own infrastructure.

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As a result, we are suffering

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when we want to implement our programs,

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Defence Force Sergeant Majors Academy.

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Since we are doing the
Sergeant Majors Academy

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at Malawi Armed Forces College.

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So when the college is
busy with other courses,

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so it comes this go to Malawi,

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Sergeant Majors course to
continue with our programs.

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So if possible, if US
AFRICOM continue assisting us

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to have our own infrastructure

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in terms of classroom, in
terms of accommodation,

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in terms of office
equipment like computers

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and other material so
that we can go ahead,

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we can continue with
implementation of programs

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in Malawi Defence Sergeant Majors course.

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Other challenge is, as
I said earlier on that,

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we are doing this course,
Sergeant Majors course,

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we do our own.

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So we need or we request our partners,

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US AFRICOM, to continue supporting us.

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So that maybe they can
allow our instructors

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to visit USASMA so that
they can get more experience

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from United States
Sergeant Majors Academy.

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So if possible, I'd like
to request US AFRICOM

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to assist my instructors so
that they can have a visit tour

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to United States, in
short I can say to USASMA.

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So if possible, US
AFRICOM try to assist us.

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With that, Malawi Defence
Force Sergeant Majors Academy,

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we are doing well, and we are very proud

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that Malawi Defence Force Sergeant Major,

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we are doing very good.

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Thank you for your attention, thank you.

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(audience applauding)

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- How you doing?

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How are you doing?

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My name is First Sergeant Abraham Lewis.

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I am with 10th Mountain Division.

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I'm gonna give you kind of a

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idea of what we did as the
10th Mountain Division.

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In September of 2016, yeah '16,

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we were chosen to be the
East African Response Force.

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I was the first sergeant for

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the East African Response Force.

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We did about six months
in Djibouti, Africa

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in which we would train with,

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not only the French, the German,

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but also the Djiboutian forces as well.

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They joined into a actual
Marine Corps Corporals course

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and joined some of their training.

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One of the fears before
we left was readiness,

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as of course, is the
whole entire Army's fear.

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What we got though out
of that whole entire time

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was we got 24 Expert Infantryman Badges,

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17 Desert, French Desert Warfare Badges,

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14 German Armed Forces Badges.

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We completed team live
fires all the way up

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to platoon stakes.

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We also did this in an
unfamiliar environment,

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which of course, when you
take a bunch of infantry,

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and you put them in
unfamiliar environment,

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you get nothing but the
best training possible.

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Then we came back in about March,

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and we were told three months later,

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that we're gonna go to Ghana.

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So what we did was we
did our team live fires,

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and we did squad live
fires before we left.

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Once we left, or before we left,

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then we also took our soldiers,

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and we took our specialists

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because a lot of our sergeants

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had to go to NCO development courses.

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So we took our specialists,

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and we put them into the classes

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to teach our Ghanaian partners,

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in which they were then told,

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"All right, you are on the hot seat."

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It was outstanding.

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We left the ones at Ghana in about August,

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and we spent a month over there.

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We partnered our NCOs with their NCOs.

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Up here, you can see
Warrant Officer Two, Tete.

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He was my partner.

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He was a great individual.

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We did PT with him in the mornings.

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Then what we do is we flip-flop.

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We would teach one of our courses,

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which would be in either
tactics, maneuvers or medical,

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and then they would teach a light course.

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This did two things.

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One, it gave them buy-in for us or to them

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so that we were there to listen

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to what they had to say.

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Two, it also showed them what
we could provide to them,

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which was outstanding when
it came to partnership.

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We also conducted squad live
fires while we were there.

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Again, this is during squad live fires

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in a completely foreign environment.

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We had to develop our own live fire lane.

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Then we went out and execute it.

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Not only did we execute

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but we also went with the Ghanaian Army,

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and they executed the exact same thing.

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So we got outstanding training,

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and they got outstanding
training along with it.

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After we got done with United Corp 18,

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we went to Jungle Warfare School.

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This was probably the best
experience for my young soldiers.

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We received some excellent training

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in jungle warfare fighting and surviving,

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which culminated at the end
in four days in the jungle.

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This built a lot of good relationships

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with the NCOs of the
Jungle Warfare School.

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In fact, one of the Jungle
Warfare School instructors

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was a soldier, who went to one of our BLCs

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here in the States,

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and which was outstanding
because as he was instructing,

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they used the British tactics,

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we used, of course, our American tactics.

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He could then bounced back and forth,

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and understand that what
we were coming with,

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but we were also flexible
since we just got

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done doing United Corp 18
to understand their tactics

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as we were going through there.

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The experience for the whole entire thing

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built stronger junior leaders for us.

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Not, I mean it is not very,

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we have our woods here
in the United States

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but it is nothing compared
to the jungles of Africa,

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which was outstanding for our NCOs.

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It also met with our NCOs both ways.

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We met with their NCOs,
they met with our NCOs.

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I think it, overall maintained
readiness within our force.

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Thank you.

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(audience applauding)

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(speaking faintly)

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- Hey, just I would like to highlight

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a few things real quick.

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Somebody's being a little bit humble

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about their Sergeant Majors Academy.

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I was able to go down there in March,

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and talked to a handful
of the 40 plus graduates

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both male and female,
who were very excited

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about taking something similar
back to their countries,

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and attempting to stand
up the same programs.

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Of course, we stand by
ready to assist with that.

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What's this so what, what's the way ahead?

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Based off AFRICOM's guidance,

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we're hoping to work with
our African partners,

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and perhaps build regional
educational institutes

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across the continent over
the next three to five years,

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and then continue to expand on that

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based off capacity and need.

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Speaking with the commandant of MAFCO,

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which is the MCOE basically for Malawi,

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the requirements for their corps,

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they need to run about
four courses a year.

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They don't have the capacity to do that

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but they're working on it.

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They're talking about bringing

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in other African partners
to serve as instructors

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so it will truly become
an international course.

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So again, great work you
did with the academy.

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Sir, do you have any or
anybody have any questions or?

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- I'd like to highlight,
you know so what you see

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with the Malawi Sergeant Majors Academy

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is defense institution building.

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So our African partners have the desire.

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They don't necessarily have the capacity.

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That's where U.S. Army
Africa and AFRICOM comes in.

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That's where our regionally
aligned forces come in.

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They help our African partners develop

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their own internal capacity,

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and then expand it
beyond their own country.

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So the Malawi Sergeant Majors Academy

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is a regional training institution.

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You heard Warrant Officer Bisalomu

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talked about other countries

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are sending 'em there, 240 graduates.

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We do the same thing with
intelligence training.

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We do the same thing with
counter-IED training.

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So our African partners are developing

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African solutions to their own problems,

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and building internal capacity

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that they export to the
countries around 'em.

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So in the long run, our
partners that we're training now

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are becoming regional exporters
of stability and security.

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That's critically important.

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Then, the other thing I'll say

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is for regionally aligned forces,

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2nd Brigade of the 101st
is now our RAF brigade.

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It's aligned with Africa.

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We also have a lot of engineer forces

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that are aligned with us.

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Deployments to Africa are

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for unique opportunities for training.

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They offer training for deployment,

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for employing your forces
in an austere environment.

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Deployments to Africa is part of the RAF

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or it's part of building partner capacity,

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build readiness internal
to your organization,

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and that supports what the chief is after,

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is maintaining readiness within
the brigade combat teams.

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So that's just an example of

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one thing that's occurring
on the African continent.

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Remember Africa is three and a half times

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the size of the continental United States.

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We've got huge distances
that have to be covered.

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We've got a lot of willing partners

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that want to partner with us.

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So it's a great place to train, to work,

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and to get after the mission.

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So pending anything from
you, sergeant major,

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we'll turn it over to questions.

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Any questions?

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Sir.

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- Thank you so much for the presentations.

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Very insightful, and informative.

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But I want you to share with me

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how you conduct your
training in the academy.

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I'm asking this because in 2016,

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I visited US Army Africa
headquarters in Italy,

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and from there, Germany,

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some facilities in Germany.

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When I was there, I had an opportunity

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to visit U.S. 7th Army NCO Academy.

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When I was there, I
found that there was this

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sergeant major who was
sort of the commandant

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in charge of the training.

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But sometimes in Africa, you find that

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the training of NCOs and the
training of enlisted soldiers,

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there are officers, there's
too much involvement

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of the officers in there.

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So I want you to share
with me the model you used,

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which we'll find it very beneficial

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to get the best out of
the training of your NCOs.

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Secondly, to share with me

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the selection of a good sergeant major.

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How do you select your sergeant majors?

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Thank you.

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- Sir, thank you for your question.

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I appreciate it.

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The only reason our NCO corp is strong

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is because of our officers.

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They empower us to do stuff.

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They're the ones who write policy,

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and help us move, and to
build schools and academies

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based off your needs and requirements.

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So thanks to all officers in the audience

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for empowering the NCOs, appreciate it.

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So how did the academy begin?

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So one of his sergeant majors attended

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the U.S. Army Sergeant Majors Academy

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at Fort Bliss, Texas.

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Came back to the country,
worked with his officers

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and their leadership, and said

30:17.217 --> 30:20.987
"We need something like this
for our enlisted force."

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So they contacted us.

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We worked through AMEDD,
which helps funds,

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and they said, Sergeant Major McCarroll,

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he flew over to Malawi, sat
down with the leadership,

30:31.510 --> 30:34.207
and said, "What do you
want your sergeant major

30:34.207 --> 30:35.247
"to look like?"

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Gave them some examples, went back,

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built the POI, built the
curriculum for the studies,

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came back to Malawi, was
approved by the commandant.

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We had a few Americans
assist with the first two,

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two or three courses of
instruction and development,

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and adjusted the POI to
better fit their needs.

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Now, I think the third or fourth class,

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it was just the Malawians
teaching the course.

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So it takes a few years

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but if you need us to help
you do something with an NCOs,

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we can work with your state partnership

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or through AFRICOM or U.S. Army

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to help you with that capability, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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Thank you.

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He wants you to answer the question too.

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(chattering faintly)

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- Thank you, sir.

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As of now, there is no commandant

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but we have a course coordinator.

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So course coordinator is
commissioned officer lieutenant.

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Yes, but I think in the future,

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we'll have a commandant
because I have said already

31:58.103 --> 32:01.240
that we have several challenges in terms

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of NCOs empowerment in
the Malawi Defence Force

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or in the African countries,
defense force of Africa.

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I think it's a big challenge
for NCOs empowerment.

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So we don't do our own senior NCOs

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but we have a guide from officers.

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So as of now, we have instructors, NCOs,

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and officer with the course coordinator.

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Thank you, sir.

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- General Sekano, you know
developing an NCO corp

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is not something that occurs overnight.

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Sergeant Major Inman has
got 30 years in the Army.

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So that's 30 years of
sequential leadership positions

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that he has been in
that have developed him

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into the sergeant major that he is today.

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So developing an NCO corp is
not gonna happen tomorrow.

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It takes several generations to develop

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the backbone of the
non-commissioned officer corp

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that's gonna run the Army.

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One of the things that we
have to understand as leaders

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is if you're gonna develop junior leaders,

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whether they're NCOs or whether
they're junior officers,

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is you have to empower 'em,

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and you have to give them
the ability to make mistakes.

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They don't have to be perfect.

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They have to learn from the mistakes,

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and you, as a leader,
have to underwrite that

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and allow them to grow.

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So we have learned in
the United States Army

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that NCOs are the backbone.

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We say that all the time.

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But by empowering our
non-commissioned officers

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as officers, it frees us
up to do other things.

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They run the day-to-day operations,

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and they make everything happen.

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So it's gotta be a deliberate commitment

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and a deliberate decision
to building that NCO corp.

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- Yes, sir.

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I'm Colonel David Ingeta,
Botswana Defence Force.

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I think one of the challenges
that many countries

34:10.130 --> 34:13.633
are facing in Africa is really
managing that culture change.

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As he just pointed out
that at the NCO academy,

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they have an officer being
the course coordinator

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for the course.

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We went through the same problem

34:25.021 --> 34:25.990
in the Botswana Defence Force,

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where we used to have
officers running NCO courses.

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All those officers were
clueless really about

34:33.400 --> 34:36.580
functioning as NCOs because
they've never been NCOs

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but they were trying to teach NCOs

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how to function as NCOs.

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It took us some time to finally get it.

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Nowadays, our NCO courses
are completely run

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by the NCO course, the corp.

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The coordinator is a warrant
officer, he's an NCO.

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All the instructors are NCOs.

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So officers are not really
involved in the running

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of the NCO curriculum.

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So I'm saying all this to say that

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we really need to seriously
manage that culture change.

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So that we start to really
view the NCO development

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as being critical.

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The NCO should be 100%
involved in the development

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of the NCO corp.

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The officers should just
provide the support,

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provide the resources that NCOs require

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in order for them to function effectively.

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Thank you very much.

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- I agree with ya.

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First Sergeant Lewis, do
you have any comments.

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I mean you're working at

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the 10th Mountain Division
NCO Academy now, right?

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- [Abraham] It starts
with the lowest level

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which is the sergeant.

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NCOs need, like you said sir,

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NCOs need to train NCOs.

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So we have a commandant,
which is our sergeant major,

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and then all of our instructors
are staff sergeants.

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What's unique about the United States Army

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is in their NCO development,
there is no officers

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that are involved in the NCO academy.

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It's all NCO driven.

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That's important but it took,
like the sergeant major said,

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it took us a while to get there.

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So I was a sergeant way, way back when?

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It took years and years to understand

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what it means to be a first sergeant.

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I have more years to be what
it needs to be sergeant major.

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So it's very important
that you have patience

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in the development but
like the commander said,

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"Give us a little bit of space,

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"and we'll surprise you."

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- Sure, and just one other comment.

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When I came in as a second
lieutenant back in 1988,

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all of the training I
received, coming in the Army,

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was done by NCOs.

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So NCOs trained me at the
infantry officer basic course,

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at Airborne School, at Ranger School.

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Then when I got to my first
unit as a platoon leader,

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my platoon sergeant, who
was a sergeant first class,

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knew that his responsibility
was to train me

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as a platoon leader.

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If I fail, then he fail.

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So NCOs not only train NCOs

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but they train officers too.

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Yes, ma'am.

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- [Carla] Thank you, Carla
Babb from Voice of America.

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I'm gonna be speaking to both
of you I believe next week.

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So I'll hold off on too
many questions for you.

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But I just wanna ask you what you thought

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was the most difficult thing
while you were in Ghana?

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I know you didn't have
language barrier difficulty.

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You didn't have to worry about that.

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But there were a lot of things
that you were talking about.

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If there's one particular thing
that you would improve upon

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for the next group of guys and gals going,

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what you thought would
help improve the next group

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that works together.

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Then for YouTube, really quickly,

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what's the biggest takeaway

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that you've seen from
this officer training

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that you've been doing since 2014?

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Do you have any success stories,

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where you can say this
one individual soldier

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has really been able to
grow from learning this?

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Then for you, if I can ask, where,

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United States has
soldiers all over Africa,

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where is the biggest
concentrations currently

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of your men and women?

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- So to your question, ma'am,

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the one thing that we actually took

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ARs are very important,

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and one thing that we
took away from the group

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that went before us
was more participation.

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The group before us kind of went in,

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and what, did the wrong thing,

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and it kinda turned a sour
eye with the Ghanaian Army.

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So what we did is we went in,

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and instead of worrying about training

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our soldiers in readiness,

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we had already knocked that
out of the park before,

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so it was more of a
focus on joint training,

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and getting the partnership built.

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That's what I would say

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is probably the most important thing

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for the next group going in as well,

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is get everything done beforehand,

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and then just worry about partnering

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with that African country,
whoever it may be,

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to give them the best product possible.

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- Thank you very much.

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Our successes of

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Malawi Defence Force
Sergeant Majors Academy,

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some of them are the
ones who leave the troops

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as well we have that Malawi Defence Force

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deployed 850 troops to DRC Force

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for Force Intervention Brigade.

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So some of these NCOs,
who lead the troops there,

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are the graduates from
Sergeant Majors Academy.

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So that's the success of
Sergeant Majors Academy

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for Malawi, thank you.

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- Ma'am, I'd say that part
of the biggest concentration

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would be our security force
operating in the Horn of Africa.

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- Okay, I think we're out of time.

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I'll just finish off by saying
thanks everybody for coming.

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Just one thing that was taught to me

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when I first came in the Army,

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that one of the things we
have to do, General Sekano,

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is to change culture.

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We gotta change the culture
of the officer corp too.

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Officers have to learn to trust and depend

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on our non-commissioned officers.

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As soon as we do that,
and we empower them,

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you'll start to see that change.

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In the United States Army,

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every officer has a sergeant.

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If you're a platoon leader,
or a company commander,

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or a battalion commander, you
have a sergeant, a wingman.

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My wingman, my sergeant is
Command Sergeant Major Inman.

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He is responsible for keeping me straight.

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So I think, culturally, over time,

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we need to learn to empower our NCO corp,

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trust our NCOs, give them the resources,

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give 'em the mission, and
then get out of the way.

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I think you'll be surprised
at what they can accomplish.

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So thanks everybody.

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We appreciate you guys coming, cool.

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(audience applauding)

