WEBVTT

00:00.000 --> 00:02.239
- Okay, I'm major
general Cezary Wiśniewski

00:02.239 --> 00:05.338
Polish defense attache
here in Washington, D.C.

00:05.338 --> 00:06.943
I'm an Air Force guy.

00:06.943 --> 00:09.229
So, from 1993 we cooperate with

00:09.229 --> 00:11.837
the great state of Illinois,

00:11.837 --> 00:15.264
and of course initially
it was just cooperation

00:15.264 --> 00:16.903
between the people meeting,

00:16.903 --> 00:20.054
and after that when we started
buying the U.S. equipment,

00:20.054 --> 00:22.551
actually, this cooperation boosted,

00:22.551 --> 00:24.273
and, for example, in the Air Force

00:24.273 --> 00:25.732
when we bought the F-16

00:25.732 --> 00:28.317
we have a great contact with

00:28.317 --> 00:29.653
Illinois National Guard.

00:29.653 --> 00:33.696
The wing, F-16 wing, and
people from the wing help us to

00:33.696 --> 00:36.289
make a preparation before
actually we introduce

00:36.289 --> 00:38.151
the F16 in our fleet,

00:38.151 --> 00:39.888
so it was really important
for us to get the

00:39.888 --> 00:44.736
knowledge and experience from
Illinois Guard F-16 unit,

00:44.736 --> 00:48.007
to prepare our people, our infrastructure

00:48.007 --> 00:49.840
and equipment to make,

00:52.265 --> 00:54.865
they reached the initial
operation capability really fast.

00:54.865 --> 00:57.804
It was just a matter of they
speed up the process in Poland

00:57.804 --> 00:59.305
based on the knowledge and experience

00:59.305 --> 01:01.901
provided by the Guard unit.

01:01.901 --> 01:03.316
Basically, first of all,

01:03.316 --> 01:05.105
the great relation is between the

01:05.105 --> 01:07.259
Illinois National Guard
and the Polish armies,

01:07.259 --> 01:08.812
so the land forces.

01:08.812 --> 01:12.226
They cooperate in Iraq and
Afghanistan working together

01:12.226 --> 01:14.689
and that's probably built
a strong relationship

01:14.689 --> 01:16.470
between the army units.

01:16.470 --> 01:17.608
In the Air Force,

01:17.608 --> 01:21.649
basically we work with
the Guard F-16 unit,

01:21.649 --> 01:23.316
and we fly together,

01:24.550 --> 01:27.370
we just exchange the information,

01:27.370 --> 01:30.187
and that was a great time
because we just introduced

01:30.187 --> 01:32.787
the new weapons system in Poland,

01:32.787 --> 01:34.711
and we just looking for knowledge.

01:34.711 --> 01:37.463
And of course active duty
units helped us a lot.

01:37.463 --> 01:39.710
162nd fighter wing in Tucson,

01:39.710 --> 01:41.795
when we get the training, helped us a lot,

01:41.795 --> 01:45.610
but still the Guard was
some kind of the source

01:45.610 --> 01:49.153
of the information for
us which helps us a lot.

01:49.153 --> 01:53.625
Well, I think, yes, there is
of course a few layers of that.

01:53.625 --> 01:56.131
First of all is a personal relationship

01:56.131 --> 01:58.458
which is built during the exercises or

01:58.458 --> 02:01.676
being deployed across the world.

02:01.676 --> 02:03.862
And of course people
can talk to each other,

02:03.862 --> 02:06.055
can send the email, can make a phone call,

02:06.055 --> 02:08.661
and just ask about advice about the help,

02:08.661 --> 02:11.939
or just, you know, just
learn each other better.

02:11.939 --> 02:14.441
And there's another layer with the units.

02:14.441 --> 02:17.352
Sometimes when we introduce
the new weapons system,

02:17.352 --> 02:21.413
the knowledge which comes
with the weapons system,

02:21.413 --> 02:23.934
it's something which help us to

02:23.934 --> 02:26.517
speed up the process in Poland.

02:27.372 --> 02:30.483
We can learn a lot from the Guard units.

02:30.483 --> 02:33.509
Right now there's another
layer of the cooperation

02:33.509 --> 02:36.568
between Poland, the new service,

02:36.568 --> 02:38.669
Republic Territorial Forces.

02:38.669 --> 02:42.142
They're not the same like the Guard unit,

02:42.142 --> 02:44.231
it's a little bit different system.

02:44.231 --> 02:46.156
These people just wanted to learn a lot

02:46.156 --> 02:48.688
how the National Guard do the business,

02:48.688 --> 02:50.769
how train people, how to select,

02:50.769 --> 02:54.062
how to maintain, you know,
the specialist in a service,

02:54.062 --> 02:56.159
which is not easy, you know, just

02:56.159 --> 02:57.904
the world is driven by the money right now

02:57.904 --> 03:00.846
so the Guards has to compete
with the other services with,

03:00.846 --> 03:04.077
you know, the other entity
to just bring the people,

03:04.077 --> 03:07.719
to train them and to
prepare for the operation.

03:07.719 --> 03:10.665
And of course the laws, the
most important recently,

03:10.665 --> 03:14.472
is that we have an enhanced fort presence,

03:14.472 --> 03:17.664
you know the concept of
the NATO to strength,

03:17.664 --> 03:19.773
the eastern flank of NATO,

03:19.773 --> 03:22.972
and up to this point there was a units

03:22.972 --> 03:25.593
from the active duty
army deployed to Poland,

03:25.593 --> 03:28.653
ABCT or AFP, and this year the first time,

03:28.653 --> 03:30.481
the Tennessee National
Guard is going to deploy

03:30.481 --> 03:33.020
as a battalion, a heavy
battalion to Poland.

03:33.020 --> 03:36.687
They're going to station
in one of our range

03:37.739 --> 03:40.300
and they're going to
operate with our brigade

03:40.300 --> 03:42.883
to looking for interoperability

03:43.815 --> 03:45.842
between the people and between the system

03:45.842 --> 03:48.237
so it's really a move forward for us,

03:48.237 --> 03:50.734
to see how the Guard unit operate

03:50.734 --> 03:54.269
in such convoluted
operational environment.

03:54.269 --> 03:56.118
Well, you know, the Illinois state,

03:56.118 --> 03:58.510
it's something, it's some state

03:58.510 --> 04:00.902
which is in our hearts,
as a pulse you know,

04:00.902 --> 04:03.368
Chicago's probably the
second biggest town,

04:03.368 --> 04:05.838
the Polish town in the
world after the Warsaw,

04:05.838 --> 04:08.165
so of course, many Polish families

04:08.165 --> 04:10.884
has members in United States

04:10.884 --> 04:14.361
and most of them live in the
Chicago or Illinois state.

04:14.361 --> 04:16.460
And of course my personal experiences

04:16.460 --> 04:20.297
with the airmen from the
National Guard F-16 unit,

04:20.297 --> 04:22.316
10 years ago we started cooperation,

04:22.316 --> 04:24.851
and, you know it stays forever

04:24.851 --> 04:27.560
so it was a really great experience.

