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(gavel banging)

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- Meeting will come to order and in the spirit

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^of having our military here, we're gonna

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^get started on time,

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^so we appreciate you all

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^being here very, very much.

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^Subcommittee will come to order.

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^Today we're meeting to discuss the President's

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^fiscal year 2019 budget request for military construction.

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^Family housing and base realignment and closure

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^for the Department of Defense.

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^The fiscal year 2019 budget request of 10.5 billion dollars

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^reflects a slight increase over the 2018

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^enacted level of 10.1 billion dollars.

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^MILCON delivers facility investments

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^that contribute to current and future force readiness.

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^Whether they support the next generation of weapon systems,

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^provides support to the combatant commanders

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^or strength in partnerships with our allies.

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^Facility investments improve the quality of life

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^for our soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines.

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^Not only with mission critical facilities,

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^but with improvements in family housing,

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^schools, health care and a variety of support facilities.

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^While the fiscal year 2019 MILCON request is some

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^improvement over the historically low request

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^from prior years, this request remains relative flat

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^compared to fiscal year 2018.

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^The MILCON portfolio has been taking on

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^increasing levels of risk for years,

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^its limited resources have been put towards

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^higher priority readiness issues,

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^critical recapitalization projects

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^have been displaced as an already constrained budget

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^is squeezed even further to accommodate

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^new platforms and weapons systems.

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^Compounded with the long list of deferred capitalization,

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^the increased complexity of facilities

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^needed to support today's weapon systems

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^are putting further strain on the budget.

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^Buildings today are more complex in design and function

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^than traditional construction projects resulting

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^in higher cost and critical construction schedules

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^as new platforms and weapons systems are interdependent

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^with their new facilities.

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^There are more projects that exceed 100 million dollars

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^in the fiscal year 2019 budget

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^than the past four budget requests combined.

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^This cost of construction projects continue to rise,

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^affordability decreases as large and complex projects

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^take up greater share of the budget.

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^In light of the environment just described,

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^it is disappointing the infrastructure did not

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^receive any increases from the recent budget cap agreement.

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^It's also frustrating that half of the department

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^decided not to submit an unfunded priority list

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^when all of the services have acknowledged

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^the substantial backlog of MILCON requirements.

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^Increases in fiscal year 2019 budget request

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^begin to improve our infrastructure

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^but reversing years of underfunding

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^while simultaneously building ready and resilient

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^installations to support changing global posture

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^will remain a challenge.

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^We must work smarter and find innovative solutions

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^to bring the right investment at the right time

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^on schedule within budget to deliver facilities

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^that provide maximum readiness and war fighting capability.

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^Today, we will hear from representatives

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^of all the military services, as well as

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^the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

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^Joining us are Mr. Lucian Niemeyer,

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^Assistant Secretary of Defense for Energy,

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^Installations and Environment.

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^Lieutenant General Gwendolyn Bingham,

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^Assistant Chief of Staff of the Army

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^for Installation Management.

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^Vice Admiral Dixon R. Smith, Deputy Chief

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^for Naval Operations for Fleet Readiness and Logistics.

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^Major General Vincent Coglianese, Commander of

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^the Marine Corps Installation Command

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^and Assistant Deputy Commander, Installations

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^and Logistics and

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^Major General Timothy S. Green, Air Force

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^Deputy Chief of Staff for Logistics, Engineering,

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^and Force Protection Director of Civil Engineers.

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^Subcommittee looks forward to your testimony.

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^Before we turn to our witnesses, I'd like to recognize

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^my colleague, the senator from Hawaii

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^for his opening remarks and also this is

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^as you know, there's been reshuffling

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^and it really is a real honor to serve with

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^Senator Schatz and look forward to

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^a very close relationship.

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^The great thing about this committee

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^is it's very bi-partisan in the things

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^that we attempt to get done.

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^And again, we really do look forward to working

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^not only with you but even better, your staff.

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^- Thank you very much Mr. Chairman.

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^I appreciate your holding this hearing

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^to discuss the fiscal year 2019 military construction

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^and family housing budget request.

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^I also want to congratulate you on taking over

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^this subcommittee as a leader on the Veterans' Affairs

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^committee and in the senate Air Force caucus

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^you are well aware of the challenges facing our veterans

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^along with our men and women in uniform.

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^I also want to thank our outgoing chairman,

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^Senator Moran, for his friendship and collaboration

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^as we completed the 2018 Omnibus.

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^That bill represented an important effort to move us

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^in the right direction on military infrastructure

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^and because of his leadership,

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^this subcommittee has made great strides

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^in fulfilling the promises made to our veterans

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^and I'm looking forward to working with you Mr. Chairman.

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^I'd also like to welcome the members of our panel

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^and look forward to your testimony.

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^General Green, this will be your last time

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^testifying before this subcommittee

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^and we want to thank you for your more than 30 years

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^of service and wish you well in retirement.

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^For too long, we have put off properly investing

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^in our military facilities.

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^That has put the department and the services

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^in a difficult position.

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^They have had to sacrifice infrastructure

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^and sustainment so that they can pay for other

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^important investments like urgent non-infrastructure,

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^readiness requirements and new missions and operations.

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^These hard choices have been made more difficult

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^by nearly two decades of conflict, sequestration, and CR's.

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^While there's been some relief from these fiscal pressures

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^with the bipartisan budget agreement,

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^MILCON has not seen the windfall other DOD accounts have

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^under this budget deal.

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^We must not continue to overlook our neglected facilities.

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^This is where our service members live, train,

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^and maintain vehicles and aircraft.

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^This is the home base from which they deploy

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^and that means a failed or failing infrastructure

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^weakens our ability to train, support,

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^and ensure high quality of life for our service members

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^and their families.

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^And with this in mind, the fiscal '19 budget request

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^for MILCON and family housing represents

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^a modest step forward.

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^Total funding is up 4% over 18 enacted levels

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^including unfunded requirements added by Congress

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^and military family housing accounts are up

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^12% over the '18 enacted amount.

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^But we need sustained and predictable

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^funding moving forward.

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^One or two years of investment will not dig us

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^out of the hole that we are in,

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^that came about through years of neglect.

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^We also need to make sure our MILCON investment,

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^particularly overseas, reflects

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^our national security strategy.

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^Coming from Hawaii, I take a particular interest

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^in the Asia Pacific region where our commitment

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^to our partners remains absolute

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^and that's why I was surprised to see

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^that this budget request is light on MILCON

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^in the region and so I look forward to hearing

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^from our witnesses about how this request came together.

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^We also have to make good on our promise

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^to our troops and their families on the home front

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^and invest in projects to improve quality of life.

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^This includes facilities for our guard and reserve

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^who have served as an operational reserve

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^for nearly two decades and require parody

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^with the active component.

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^I look forward to your testimony.

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^Thank you.

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^Mr. Niemeyer, we welcome your testimony.

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^- Thank you.

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^I'd like to submit my written record,

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^testimony for the record and have a brief oral statement.

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^I want to thank you Mr. Chairman, ranking member,

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^distinguished members of the sub-committee

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^for the opportunity to talk to you today

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^about the President's budget request

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^for military installations, energy, and the environment.

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^I also want to thank personally Senator Moran

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^for his support for the military and our veterans

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^over the years.

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^I look forward to having that same support

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^from Senator Boozman and I really appreciate it

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^and look forward to working with the committee

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^as we address the needs of our military

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^and their families who are called to sacrifice

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^so much on behalf of our country every day.

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^We are extremely grateful to Congress

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^for the recently enacted bipartisan budget act of 2018

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^which begins the recovery from

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^the significant impact of sequestration.

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^We have a responsibility now to honor

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^the trust of the American people by spending each

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^defense dollar wisely.

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^In order to do so, our investments are now

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^guided by the President's national security strategy

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^and the secretary of defense's national defense strategy

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^recently released with both clearly articulate

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^the threats and challenges we face as a nation.

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^Our mission is clear.

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^We must be prepared to defend the homeland,

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^remain the pre-eminent military power in the world

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^and advance under international order

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^that promotes a security and prosperity.

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^The strategy confronts a stark reality

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^that the homeland is no longer a sanctuary.

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^The strategy requires increase adaptive

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^and dispersed basing.

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^It also requires the department to drive budget discipline

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^and affordability in order to direct resources

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^towards the highest unfunded war fighter requirements.

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^Our budget priorities today support the strategy

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^by establishing a foundation to rebuild

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^the agility, resilience, readiness, and lethality

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^of armed forces.

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^With a clear understanding of the strategy,

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^we have set forth the following objectives

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^to confront some of the challenges poised

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^by years of underfunded accounts.

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^First we are eliminating waste in the management

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^of installations and we continue to advocate

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^within the building for adequate funding

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^to maintain our facilities.

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^We're protecting installation and ranges

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^from incompatible developments around the country

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^and improving the combat credibility of our test

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^and training assets.

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^We're enhancing our entry security.

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^We are exploring new opportunities

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^for third party partnerships.

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^We are working with the contracting community

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^to develop smarter contracts and

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^to manage contracts smartly.

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^We continue to provide for the welfare

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^of our people and resources through unparalleled

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^environmental stewardship and occupational safety programs.

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^And so importantly, we continue to collaborate

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^with the hundreds of dedicated defense communities

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^around the country who support our bases every day

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^and provide for the quality of life for our troops

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^and their families.

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^These guiding principles will allow us

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^to apply the resources in this budget request

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^to achieve real results.

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^The request of 11.4 billion dollars

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^for military construction and family housing programs

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^makes significant progress in recapitalizing facilities.

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^But this year's funding will not fully reverse

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^the impacts of six years of sequestration.

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^We currently have an unfunded maintenance backlog

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^exceeding 116 billion dollars.

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^23% of the department's facilities are in poor condition

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^and another 9% are failing based on recent analysis.

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^My frank assessment is that may be too costly

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^to buy ourselves out of this backlog.

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^We must work to remove unneeded capacity

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^in order to fund higher priorities.

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^As noted in national defense strategy,

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^we continue to reduce excess infrastructure

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^and assess our installations.

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^For instance, we must ensure facilities that are sized

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^for 100 personnel actually have 100 personnel

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^working in that facility.

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^We also proposed increased efforts

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^to demolish unneeded facilities.

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^We are reducing leases in order to remove folks

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^back on base.

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^Our work will get us part of the way

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^but we still need your support

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^for a fair objective and transparent process

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^for future base realignments and closures.

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^These efforts will be enhanced by a careful evaluation

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^of how and where we need to base new forces

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^and new technologies.

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^Bottom line, we must be able to transform

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^from a cold war basing strategy

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^by realigning forces at the right locations

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^to improve their readiness and lethality.

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^We're also facing other challenges as well

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^head on within the department.

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^We're managing the impact of increased cost of labor

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^and materials resulting from adverse weather

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^on our military construction projects.

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^We are proactively improving MILCON project

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^and contract management to deliver a power projection

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^projects on schedule and within budget.

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^Given the cyber risks documented recently

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^by the Department of Homeland Security,

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^the department's energy programs are focused

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^on power security for critical facilities.

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^We appreciate this committee's support

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^for the energy resiliency

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^and conservation improvement program

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^to improve infrastructure security

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^while still maintaining a payback for our projects.

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^We are also urgently identifying resources

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^to improve the cyber protection of our facility

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^related control systems.

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^Our war fighters also need access to unencumbered land,

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^water and airspace to hone readiness and lethality

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^without compromising health and safety.

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^We are heavily engaged with other federal agencies

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^to provide larger and more realistic air

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^and land ranges with less maneuver restrictions

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^to better simulate battlefield and threats

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^around the world.

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^Our commitment is to provide combat credible

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^test and training capabilities.

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^In all Mr. Chairman ranking member,

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^we have both challenges and opportunities

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^in support of our new national defense strategy.

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^We have a determined sense of urgency

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^to achieve results now, knowing each achievement

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^deters aggression by our adversaries.

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^We appreciate your continued support for our military

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^and look forward to working with you on the committee

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^to promote our nation's security.

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^- [John] Thank you.

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^Lieutenant General Bingham.

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^- Good morning.

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^Chairman Boozman, Ranking Member Schatz,

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^and members of this subcommittee,

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^thank you for your leadership, your advocacy

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^and your support of our men and women

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^who are serving in harm's way

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^in places all around the globe.

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^The US Army is focused on readiness and lethality

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^to meet combatant commander and national defense

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^strategy requirements.

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^The FY 2018 MILCON appropriations reflects your support

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^of Army installations and we are very grateful for it.

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^The Army's FY '19 request for MILCON

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^provides for ready and resilient installations.

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^This will ensure our soldiers are properly trained

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^and can be deployed anywhere in the world

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^in order to fight and win our nation's wars.

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^We must continue to reduce critical facilities' deficits,

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^recapitalize and modernize our infrastructure

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^and consolidate our installation footprint.

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^The Army's family housing construction budget

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^invests in the Army's most valuable asset

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^and that is our people.

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^Quality housing and housing services

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^provides homes for soldiers and their families

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^living on our installations around the world.

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^We continue to reduce resilience on external utility systems

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^for our critical missions,

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^improve energy and water efficiency,

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^enable operational freedom of action

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^and contribute to mission readiness.

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^The Army requests just over 2 billion dollars

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^in our FY '19 MILCON budget.

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^This begins to arrest facility degradation

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^and improve installation readiness.

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^We appreciate your continued advocacy

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^of predictable, adequate sustained and timely funding

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^for our installations to continue enabling

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^war fighting readiness.

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^Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today.

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^I look forward to your questions.

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^- [John] Thank you very much.

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^Vice Admiral Smith.

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^- Chairman Boozman, Ranking Member Schatz

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^and distinguished members of the subcommittee,

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^I appreciate the opportunity to provide an overview

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^of the Navy's fiscal year 2019 military construction

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^budget request.

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^On behalf of the sailors and their families,

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^thank you for you and your continued support

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^of the Navy, it's military construction program

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^and our 71 installations around the world

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^which enable the Navy the nation needs.

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^Thank you as well, for the funding provided

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^in both the fiscal year '18 omnibus appropriation

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^and the hurricane amendment.

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^The fiscal year '18 omnibus appropriation

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^included critical Navy MILCON projects such as

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^the communications encrypto facility in Hawaii

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^which underpinned the Department of Defense priorities

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^to restore war fighting readiness and increase lethality.

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^Further, the fiscal year '18 hurricane amendment

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^is enabling us to repair, replace Navy facilities

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^damaged or destroyed by hurricanes

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^and installations in Florida, Georgia, Texas

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^and Puerto Rico.

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^The Navy's fiscal year '19 MILCON budget

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^requests approximately two billion dollars

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^for 33 projects is the largest in a decade.

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^Coupled with an additional 2.1 billion

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^in fiscal year '19 to sustain, restore

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^and modernize our facilities.

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^The proposed investments are deliberately targeting

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^to slow further degradation of our facilities

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^and begin reducing the existing 14.3 billion dollar

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^backlog of facilities' maintenance and repair.

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^While this request would achieve significant progress

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^for the shore accounts, it is tempered by the reality

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^that these problems were not created overnight

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^and the path to full readiness recovery

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^will take long term commitment of resources,

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^predictable funding and time.

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^The shore investments are inextricably linked

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^to the Navy the nation needs to ensure we achieve

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^a bigger, better networked, talented, agile and ready fleet.

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^Indeed, CNO Richardson recently testified to

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^the importance of the shipyards as a critical enabler

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^and as you know, the Navy recently released

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^our shipyard infrastructure optimization plan

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^to recapitalize these critical facilities.

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^This report to Congress outlines a 21 billion dollar

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^investment plan to improve dry docks,

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^optimize our shipyards, and invest in capital

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^equipment over 20 years.

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^Approximately 18 billion dollars of the total

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^is just for infrastructure and that equates

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^to approximately 900 million dollars per year.

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^These protective funding levels far exceed

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^Navy's historical investment in shipyards.

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^In order to optimize our shipyards

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^at a cost above and beyond our shore investment plan,

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^the Navy will remain closely aligned with Congress

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^to ensure our path to success.

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^It is a privilege to testify before this committee today

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^and share the details of

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^a proposed fiscal year '19 investments.

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^Congress is our critical partner to achieve

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^the Navy the nation needs.

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^As the secretary and CNO testified Tuesday,

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^we are committed to being good stewards

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^of the taxpayer dollar.

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^We will invest smartly and we'll drive efficiency

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^to ensure the best return on investment for the nation,

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^our sailors and civilians.

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^Again, thank you for your support of the Navy's

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^shore infrastructure programs and I look forward

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^to your questions.

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^- Thank you very much.

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^Major General Coglianese.

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^I'm sorry.

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^- Distinguished members of the committee, General Neller,

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^and thousands of marines and sailors,

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^civilians and family members,

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^we thank you for continued support

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^to the defense of the nation of

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^the United States Marine Corps.

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^Thanks to your support, your Marine Corps is on track

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^to make significant improvements

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^in the quality and condition

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^of our installation infrastructure

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^which is fundamental to combat readiness

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^and a generation of combat power.

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^Our installations provide three critical force

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^enable and functions.

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^First, there are the deployment platforms

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^for which our expeditionary forces fight

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^and win our nation's battles.

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^Second, they wear our Marine air ground task force

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^trained and honed their combat skills.

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^And third, they're home to

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^our Marines, sailors, and families.

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^As commander, the single authority of

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^the Marine Corps installation matters,

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^the protection of our installations is

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^my number one concern.

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^There's a myriad of challenges in the current operating

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^environment and all signs indicate

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^those challenges will compound and grow.

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^The fact is, our installations are vulnerable targets

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^for a growing host of sophisticated threats.

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^The intent to disrupt and degrade our ability

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^to generate combat power in the support

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^of national defense.

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^Our installations must prove resilient in the face

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^of threats we face.

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^We need to invest in next generation installation

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^infrastructure to match the growing capability.

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^Your support is crucial as we begin to develop

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^the installation infrastructure and support

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^the next generation MAGTF.

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^The Marine Corps infrastructure reset strategy

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^which is signed by the commandant,

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^will improve the life cycle management

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^and ensure the infrastructure investments

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^are in line with the Marine Corps capability

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^base requirements to support the war fighting mission

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^and contribute directly to current and future readiness.

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^PV '19 funds, the infrastructure reset,

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^with the realized long-term savings,

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^the reduction of over 1,056 failing structures

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^which will recoup 14 million square feet

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^over (mumbles) which will yield cost avoidance

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^in facilities sustainment

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^restoration modernization accounts.

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^Our infrastructure reset, if properly funded,

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^and executed, will set us on solid ground

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^as we pivot inside conditions fully enabled

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^our operating forces.

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^No place to hide, no sanctuary, no boundaries.

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^This is a new operating environment

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^and the implications of our installations are profound.

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^Tomorrow's Marine Corps installation will look

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^much different than in existence today.

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^Our installations are power projection platforms

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^that are only as lethal as those forces we

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^project whose training and readiness are key.

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^We must also look to the modernization,

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^how and where we train.

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^We must advance our protection capabilities

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^and is vital we increase the resiliency

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^in the face of increasing threats.

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^We are promoting an atmosphere innovation

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^of modernization by working with industry

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^to incorporate the cutting edge technologies

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^across our installations.

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^I look forward to working with you

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^to sustain a war fighting capability and readiness

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^of our power projection platforms

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^and a quality of life for our Marine Corps.

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^Thank you for the time and the opportunity to speak

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^on behalf of the Marines, sailors, families and civilians.

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^I look forward to your questions.

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^- Thank you.

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^Major General Green.

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^- Chairman Boozman, Ranking Member Schatz

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^and distinguished members of the committee.

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^I'm honored today to represent America's airmen

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^and also to discuss the Air Force's fiscal year 2019

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^military construction and housing request.

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^I want to start with a thank you for your personal support

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^for the five FY '18 and 35A bed down project

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^at Eielson Air Force Base that we requested

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^as part of the last and final

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^continuing resolution this year.

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^Your support allowed us to in fact award these projects

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^ahead of the summer construction season this year

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^in Alaska and you've kept the beddown on track

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^so thank you.

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^I also want to say thanks for your support

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^in giving the Air Force much needed budgetary relief

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^in FY '18 and '19 though the bipartisan budget agreement.

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^Your support enables the Air Force to meet

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^the national defense strategy objectives.

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^The Air Force's fiscal year 2019 budget request

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^is rooted in the realities of our strategic environment

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^and the reemergence of great power competition.

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^As we prepare this budget request,

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^the Air Force deliberately evaluated both today's needs

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^and the capabilities demanded by anticipated future threats.

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^The result is a budget aligned with

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^a national defense strategy to restore readiness,

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^drive innovation and prepare the Air Force to win

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^any fight at any time.

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^Our 2019 budget request includes 1.78

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^billion dollars in military construction requirements,

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^prioritizing our efforts in three primary categories:

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^The beddown of new weapons systems,

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^combatant command urgent requirements

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^and recapitalizing our existing mission infrastructure.

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^At the macro level, the Air Force infrastructure investment

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^is approximately 887 million dollars in support of

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^the Air Force's modernization programs

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^including the beddown of the F35-A and KC46-A.

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^We request 230 million dollars for combatant commander

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^urgent requirements ensuring the United States' position

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^to project power across the globe.

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^This year's budget request also includes

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^377 million dollars to recapitalize our most urgent

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^existing mission infrastructure needs

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^including 225 million dollars to maintain

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^necessary research and development facilities

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^to ensure we maintain a technological edge

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^over our adversaries.

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^Additionally, too often lost in our focus

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^on readiness and lethality, is the importance

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^of the quality of life facilities

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^on recruiting and retention as they support

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^our airmen and their families.

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^The FY '19 budget request includes 395 million dollars

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^for quality of life funding

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^for military housing construction

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^and operations and maintenance.

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^In total, our FY 2019 military construction request

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^represents a strategic balance for capability

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^and capacity ensuring we are best postured

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^to fill a ready force today while concurrently

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^modernizing for the challenges of tomorrow.

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^Chairman Boozman, Ranking Member Schatz,

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^thank you again for the opportunity to testify today

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^and I look forward to your questions.

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^- Thank you very much.

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^Let me start out, Secretary Niemeyer,

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^I was pleased to see your support for

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^the Office of Economic Adjustment, OEA,

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^in your prepared testimony.

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^OEA's work is important in the state of Arkansas

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^and we are currently engaged with OEA on several

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^joint land use studies for installations.

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^I believe maintaining support for this office

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^is crucial and I'm glad that you view their work

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^in collaboration with local communities is important

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^and essential as I do.

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^So again, thank you very much for your support.

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^One thing I'd like for us to talk a little bit about

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^and I think it's so, so important,

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^we struck this bipartisan agreement,

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^budget agreement, additional

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^165 billion dollars for defense.

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^Really not a whole lot in MILCON.

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^Can you talk about why that's the case?

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^I mean, I know we've got all of these things

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^going on, readiness is a huge factor.

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^We've got depleted munitions, the list goes

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^on and on.

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^But truly, as we look forward, these are things,

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^to me what should get into an infrastructure

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^is you can let things go

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^and it costs money.

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^You can fix 'em, it's cheaper,

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^you let 'em go long enough and you actually

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^have to replace it which you're talking

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^about huge costs.

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^So if you all would jump in.

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^Mr. Secretary.

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^- Yes, sir.

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^Part of it was a timing issue.

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^We normally prepare the budget for FY '19,

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^we start pretty much throughout the entire year 2018.

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^The initial guidance that was given to us

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^within the services was a little lower,

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^we leave it up to the services at OSD level

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^to go ahead and determine within the guidance given

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^how they want to allocate resources.

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^But from my perspective, I've been doing this a long time,

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^the numbers were not really provided to us in time

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^for us to be able to make the adjustments

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^to those particular investment accounts.

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^It does take longer than usual to make adjustments

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^in the MILCON accounts versus operations accounts

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^or otherwise and that really has a lot to do with it.

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^We already sent over the President's budget

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^by the time we got to final budget agreement

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^and ultimately the FY '18 onto this appropriations bill

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^with a higher dollar amount.

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^- And you'd agree with my reasoning that as you let

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^these things go, it just becomes more

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^and more expensive in time.

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^- Yes sir, we do our best within the billing

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^to make that clear to our leaders.

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^- Does anybody else want to jump in with that

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^or avoid it?

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^- Mr. Chairman I would agree with you.

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^And you addressed it.

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^It's about a balance and there are a lot

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^of competing demands and issues going on right now

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^and so we've gotta balance those.

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^As I eluded to in my statement, it's two billion dollars

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^for the Navy this year.

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^Is that enough? No sir.

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^Is that twice as much as what we've done historically?

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^Yes.

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^So we're starting to chip away at it.

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^It took us a long time to get here.

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^It's gonna take us time to get out of it.

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^Ranking Member Schatz and I talked about the other day

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^putting together the shipyard plan

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^so we understand it's a challenge,

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^we understand it's an issue.

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^We're not gonna fix it overnight

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^but we are aggressively attacking it sir.

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^- Let me ask you about something else

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^I think's really important as you're aware.

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^Congress and OMB have opposing views on incremental funding

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^for MILCON projects.

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^Congress prefers to incrementally fund large MILCON

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^projects to ensure the maximum utility for each dollar

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^appropriated in a given year.

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^Incrementation frees up money that would otherwise

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^not be executed until future years

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^and allows DOD to fund critical unfunded priorities

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^that can be executed in the budget year.

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^OMB has directed that any incremental project

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^not execute until all increments have been funded,

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^unnecessarily delaying the project

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^and defeating the purpose of incremental funding.

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^Does DOD...

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^Tell us your opinion as best you can--

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^- [Lucian] Except for that last caveat.

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^- Tell us the pros and cons of that.

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^Again, I've laid out the pros.

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^- Senator, that's a fantastic issue and having

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^been on the committee staff, I understand

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^and desire to want to spend dollars prudently

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^and it is tough for a large military construction project

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^to hold potentially hundreds of millions of dollars

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^until we get a chance to expense that in the future.

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^So I see both sides.

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^Now that I'm in the Department of Defense,

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^I understand that.

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^When Congress makes the decisions unilaterally

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^incrementally fund a project to allow to

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^free up dollars for other priorities,

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^it does create a budget nightmare for us

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^as we have to then go find that allocation

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^somewhere else in the subsequent year.

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^So I think that's what OMB was trying to get at

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^was really trying to ensure budget accountability

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^for each project we sent over is fully funded

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^while we also understand congressional concerns

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^about okay, we've got these unfunded priorities

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^that come over, we need to fund those too.

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^They're urgent as well.

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^I can see both sides and I'm not sure the best way forward.

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^I do believe a good policy would be to embrace

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^at that over certain dollar amount,

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^whether it be 100 million dollars

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^or whatever the dollar amount is.

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^When we know we're not gonna expense

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^a majority of those dollars in the first couple years,

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^allow us the flexibility to bring to you a request

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^that would provide some, only a partial appropriation

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^but a full authorization.

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^That to me probably haven't been around it for a long time

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^would be the best way to do that

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^but that discussion still needs to happen

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^between us, between OMB and the committees.

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^- [John] Thank you.

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^Senator Schatz.

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^- Thank you Mr. Chairman.

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^Lieutenant General Bingham

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^can you just walk us through the sort of medium

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^term MILCON needs in Hawaii?

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^I'm thinking Scofield, Wheeler and PTA

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^and why they're important for readiness?

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^- Yes, thank you Senator Schatz.

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^For sure all of the facilities in the Pacific theater

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^are important to our lethality and our readiness

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^not only in Hawaii but certainly in Korea as well.

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^And so what we have taken upon

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^is an investment plan

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^for Hawaii's infrastructure revitalization.

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^You and I talked about that a little bit.

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^That includes operational facilities,

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^maintenance facilities, Pohakuloa training area

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^to name a few.

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^It will take a substantive amount of time

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^but we have put about a 350 million dollar wedge

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^in the fight beginning in FY '20, and so that theater

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^is vitally critical to our readiness around the globe,

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^specifically in that theater, so we're committed

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^to it's revitalization.

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^- Thank you.

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^Admiral Smith, you and I have been talking about Red Hill

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^for a little while now.

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^For the benefit of the members of the committee,

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^can you just describe what Red Hill is

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^and why it's so important for the Navy in the Pacific?

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^- Yes sir.

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^So Red Hill is our strategic fuel reserve in Hawaii

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^that we rely on significantly in the Pacific

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^for any actions that we might have to take.

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^It's up under a hill, you can't see it,

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^it's gravity fed down so if you lose power

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^or anything else, it's got the ability to

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^sustain the fleet.

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^A couple of years ago, we discovered a leak

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^in one of the tanks

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^which was from a repair that was happening.

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^That's been fixed.

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^But obviously, it's a significant concern

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^to the citizens of Hawaii and on the island of Oahu.

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^It sits near an aquifer that provides the fresh water

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^and so we are working very closely

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^with the state of Hawaii and the water board,

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^department of health,

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^and the center and his colleagues to make sure

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^that we address this to conduct the appropriate repairs

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^and an appropriate cost to ensure this doesn't happen again.

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^- Thank you Admiral Smith.

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^This is a question for Lieutenant General Bingham

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^and Major General Green.

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^I want to talk about how MILCON dollars

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^are allocated across components

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^and this gets a little technical

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^so you can correct me if I get something wrong,

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^but my understanding is the real property asset database

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^is the way you determine the allocation

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^between the active and reserve components

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^as it relates to MILCON

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^and I'm not sure, it seems to me that that should

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^be a factor but not the only factor,

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^especially given the sort of pace and the

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^change in role that the

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^different service branches have undertaken

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^over the last 15 years that if you're still looking

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^at real property as the only way to determine

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^future MILCON, you're not recognizing that between

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^active and reserve, everything has changed over

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^the last 15 years so I guess the first question is

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^am I getting it right in terms of the way you

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^make your allocations for future MILCON

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^and if I am, are we to change that?

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^And I'll start with General Bingham.

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^- Thank you Ranking Member Schatz.

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^Partially true, we use a MILCON process

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^inside of the headquarters DA where we bring

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^together all the stakeholders and that's

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^a combination of our active component commands,

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^or reserve and our guard affiliated commands as well

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^and so what we look at is we look at

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^our installation status report.

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^We do, in fact, understand what the condition

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^of our worst facilities are throughout our portfolio

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^but we rack and stack if you will

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^what the needs are for each of the services

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^and we basically have a voting process

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^where we have a rank and file.

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^- And I'll move to General Green after I make this comment.

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^It seems to me that if it's based on real property assets,

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^that would make a lot of sense if it was an R&M schedule

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^but if you're talking about new construction,

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^then what you already have in inventory

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^is not the way you should determine what

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^else you're building.

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^So I just want you to consider whether this process

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^reflects the current state of affairs.

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^General Green with final comment.

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^- Yes sir, I think it does reflect

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^the current state of affairs as

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^a starting point of discussion.

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^But for example, when we're bedding down a new aircraft,

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^like a C-17 in a reserve base, last year the reserves

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^got more than what would be considered more

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^than a fair share because we were bedding down

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^a new mission so we do accommodate the things

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^I believe you're alluding to.

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^Another challenge for us today is

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^as we think about moving

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^the overseas contingency funds into the base,

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^those overseas facilities support all of our components,

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^active, guard and reserve

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^and so when we move it to the base,

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^it's counted against the active duty side

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^and therefore you would need to also raise

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^the reserve component, and, in fact,

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^those facilities support all of us.

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^- [Brian] Okay, thank you.

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^- [John] Senator Hoeven.

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^- Thank you Mr. Chairman.

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^I'd like to thank all the witnesses for being here today

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^and for your service.

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^I want to express my strong support for several projects

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^in my state.

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^One is a national guard readiness center in Fargo,

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^which is very much needed.

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^We've had a very heavy deployment and ops toppling our guard

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^in the war on terror and this is a facility

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^that is very much needed,

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^and then also for an upgrade to the helicopter facility

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^at the Minot Air Force Base which

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^actually serves the missile fields for the ICBM's,

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^they're still flying Huey helicopters

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^if you can believe that.

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^They were probably constructed in the 1960's

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^and they've kept them flying and they're out there

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^in all kind of weather covering a huge area.

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^I'm talking about our MP's

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^and we need a new facility so that we can

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^put the new helicopter, Black Hawks, in a facility

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^that's large enough to house them.

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^But it's amazing the workarounds these guys

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^have made work, still flying those Huey helicopters.

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^When I was governor, we started with Huey's

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^and graduated to Black Hawks and it's an iconic aircraft

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^but it's older than the people flying them so

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^that's a badly needed upgrade.

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^Major General Green, long lines of upgrades

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^at Minot Air Force Base, dual nuclear mission, ICBMs

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^and B-52 at both conventional nuclear capability.

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^The power lines that go to those ICBM missile fields

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^were probably put in in the '60's I would guess.

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^And as we work to upgrade the ICBM's,

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^we're gonna need to also upgrade those power lines.

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^What arrangements are you making to do that?

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^- Sir, as we look at the upgrade of the missile fields

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^for the GBSD as we plan the future requirement,

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^all of those considerations are gonna be

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^a part of that beddown of the new missile system.

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^So, we're looking at it.

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^There's not an immediate requirement today.

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^They're performing adequately today

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^but we recognize that it's something we need

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^to look forward to as we think about

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^the next generation of missiles.

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^- Okay.

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^So you're working with local electric providers

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^on that, they're informed, and you're determining

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^exactly what is needed and when?

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^- [Timothy] Yes, sir.

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^- All right.

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^In a FYDP, you don't specify upgrades to

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^Midot's weapons storage area.

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^And again, they have both conventional

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^and nuclear weapons there.

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^But there are other nuclear upgrades in some

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^of the other facilities, so my questions would be

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^when would Minot be in line for upgraded weapons storage?

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^- Sir, as you know, we're gonna redo all of

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^the weapons storage facilities.

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^Minot is outside of the FYDP so it is there

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^in our rural program and in fact, we've briefed

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^the committee staff members at some time,

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^different times so it's just residing outside

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^of the FYDP.

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^Because it's a dual use, the B-52s as well as

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^the missile fields, it will be our last,

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^our final WSF and it will be the largest one.

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^- Secretary Niemeyer, do we have adequate

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^air space and ranges to support unmanned flights

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^and the ability to test various sensors

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^that unmanned aircraft carry on board?

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^- Sir, we have resources available for unmanned flight.

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^I think the concern we have right now nationally,

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^I know North Dakota's leading the change in

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^FAA regulations and we're doing a lot

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^of test activities up there.

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^We do need nationally an updated FAA plan

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^for allow for unmanned systems.

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^We do have some training concerns around the country.

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^We have restricted air spaces in other places.

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^I think that's probably the biggest concern we have

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^right now as far as airspace run manned systems.

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^- Right and we have not only guard flying 'em,

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^we have Air Force flying 'em and Customs

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^and Border Protection flying them

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^and 900 miles of border responsibility that we use.

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^- [Lucian] Yep.

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^- So we certainly have the capacity there

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^in Grand Forks and the interface with

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^the technology park Grand Skies to do a lot of this

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^sensor testing and so forth.

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^Air space restrictions and so forth

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^that we've worked to get...

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^Restrictions isn't the right word.

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^Opportunities to fly unmanned.

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^One of the biggest infrastructure challenges

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^to increasing the number of unmanned flights

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^as far as an aircraft in

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^the unmanned inventory for DOD?

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^- I would say making sure we've got

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^a basing strategy in place.

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^Right now we've got a lot of our systems

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^are flying overseas.

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^We don't quite have plans in place that when

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^they do come home, hopefully peace will breakout

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^around the world at some point,

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^we can bring them back to the United States.

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^I think we still have work to do within

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^around the country where best to place those

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^and what locations would best support their

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^continued training and development of next generation

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^of capabilities for that system.

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^- Well now that's key isn't it because

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^we've got to be able to fly them in the NAS

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^for your training and development,

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^not only aircraft themselves but sensors

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^and so now you're talking about either

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^restricted airspace or conquering air space

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^and ultimately, we've got to get to concurrent airspace.

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^- [Lucian] Yes sir.

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^- And so that's something we can work with you

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^to develop, and are working to develop.

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^Any other thoughts you have in terms

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^of how we build that?

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^- Yeah, I would love to have the opportunity.

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^I hate to put another shameless plug in

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^but I'd love to be able to take a look at

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^the entire enterprise for unmanned systems,

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^through a process where I could pick

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^those locations that are most ideally suited

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^for us to be able to support those systems long term.

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^Right now for us, the base realignment and closure process

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^allows that enterprise look.

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^It's emerging technologies like that

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^and where best to place them.

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^- Are you looking at it without that type of...

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^In other words, are you actively doing that

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^without a--

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^- The services are doing the best they can

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^as you know, the Air Force has a basing process

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^to try to identify locations.

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^I do believe there's some encumbrances to that

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^particular process that could be solved by

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^taking a more wide and more comprehensive enterprise look.

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^- [John] Okay, thank you.

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^Again, thanks to all of you, appreciate it.

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^- [John] Senator Udall.

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^- Thank you Mr. Chairman and thank you

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^Ranking Senator Schatz and really appreciate

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^all of you being here today with us.

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^General Green, I'd like to start

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^by having a conversation about the New Space

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^Rapid Capabilities Office at Kirtland Air Force Base.

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^The new space, RCO, is supposed to play

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^an important role in the Air Force's attempt

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^to leverage public private partnerships

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^and reduce the time to launch

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^national security assets into space.

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^While space RCO is just starting to get off the ground,

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^I believe that it will need funding

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^for new military construction in order

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^to truly scale up and meet the Air Force's needs.

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^For example, there is a lack of building space

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^adjacent to Kirtland, AFRL, for companies to utilize.

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^There is also a need for secure compartmentalized

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^information space both for the space RCO

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^and private companies to utilize and support of

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^the Air Force in Albuquerque and I'm sure there are

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^many other needs.

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^Will you make it a priority to stand up

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^the space RCO quickly and expedite the military

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^construction priorities in order to meet

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^the Secretary of the Air Force's goals for space launches?

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^- Yes, sir, we will.

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^As you likely know, we've already identified

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^facilities today as the initial short-term

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^facility options and we'll be studying

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^all of the things that you described

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^for the way ahead, yes sir.

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^- All right, do you agree that in trying to access

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^to space is a national security priority

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^and that a successful space RCO will be

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^a key component of this effort?

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^- [Timothy] Yes sir, I do.

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^- Great.

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^And I--

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^- More importantly, the Secretary of the Air Force does.

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^- That's important too.

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^And I also look forward to working with you

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^and the secretary on this.

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^General Bingham, great to see you again.

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^You announced last year in this committee

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^that White Sands Missile Range,

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^after a long drought, that military construction

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^would be moving forward with the information systems

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^facility included in this year's budget.

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^The project was originally slated for 2023,

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^but the needs for better data management

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^made this project a major priority for the Army and DOD.

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^General Bingham, how will this new facility

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^improve White Sands Missile Range's ability

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^to manage and acquire data for testing?

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^- Thank you Senator Udall and great

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^to see you again as well.

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^As you know, I haven't been stationed at White Sands

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^for about 21 months.

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^I had really come to appreciate that it's an

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^absolute national treasure there.

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^We will be making good use of

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^this new information systems facility.

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^It will actually displace seven separate facilities

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^so that will make it more efficiently used

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^by information management and

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^its communications capability there on the range,

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^so I know it'll be quite an asset for the men

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^and women who will use it.

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^- Appreciate that answer, and do you believe

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^that the new facility could enable White Sands

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^to be a more efficient user of the air space?

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^- Absolutely.

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^- Mr. Niemeyer, you know New Mexico well.

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^New Mexico has proudly supported its military bases

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^and I believe the President's military construction budget

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^does a good job supporting the troops who work

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^and train in New Mexico.

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^The budget in New Mexico's also critical

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^to address some of the training shortfalls for pilots.

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^And then this question is for Mr. Niemeyer,

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^General Bingham and General Green.

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^The pilot shortage is a very serious issue.

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^I think many of you have talked about that before.

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^In New Mexico, the Department of Defense and all

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^the military branches who utilize WSMR

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^need to work together to improve this situation.

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^The F-16 training pipeline through Holloman Air Force Base

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^is one important component to address

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^the pilot shortage and for years now,

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^I've pressed all stakeholders to work

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^with White Sands to do a better job

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^about deconflicting air space with Holloman

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^in order to ensure access for Holloman's pilots.

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^In my opinion, the Air Force should move quickly

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^to make the F-16 basing permanent at Holloman,

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^moving to another base will likely cost

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^additional money for MILCON and will sap the time

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^from the airmen working to alleviate the pilot shortage.

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^Do you agree that the Air Force needs to do everything

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^it can to improve opportunities for training

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^and should work to prevent unneeded future MILCON spending?

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^Mr. Niemeyer, why don't we start with you?

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^- I'll talk more to what I see is

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^happening in New Mexico happens around the country

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^where you have a friendly competition between

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^test requirements and training requirements.

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^WSMR has a long history of trying to balance that.

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^As we manage a very important part of our national airspace

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^and training and test infrastructure at WSMR,

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^my job is to work with both services

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^to make sure that we can support the test requirements

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^which there's no other test range like this in the world,

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^what we have at WSMR, along with what is a very, very

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^desirable piece of airspace for training.

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^We work every day to try to balance that

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^within the department of defense.

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^I'll leave that up to the services

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^to talk about the F-16.

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^- Just brief answers, I'm out of time,

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^but General Bingham and General Green.

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^- Certainly we want to work with our Air Force

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^comrades and do on a repeated basis out at White Sands

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^to do as Secretary Niemeyer mentioned to deconflict

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^that air space out there and I think we've got

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^a good system to do that.

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^- Great, thank you.

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^General Green.

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^- Yes sir, we agree about the partnership

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^with regard to the airspace and certainly

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^as we go through the basing process,

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^the secretary will announce the candidates this year

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^and we agree with the need so minimize MILCON.

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^- [Tom] Thank you very much, thank you Mr. Chairman

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^for your courtesy.

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^- [John] Thank you.

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^Senator Moran.

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^- Mr. Chairman, thank you.

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^Let me first commend and congratulate you

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^on your assumption of the chairmanship of this committee.

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^- [John] We've got big shoes to fill

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^but we're gonna do our best.

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^- I knew you'd say that, that's why I complemented you.

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^(laughing)

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^And let me also thank the staff,

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^Patrick and his crew have been great to work with

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^and I'm very appreciative of their help

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^and I look forward to being a valuable

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^and active member of this subcommittee.

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^And I appreciate Senator Schatz's comments

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^and I was trying to think if you're

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^my favorite ranking member but then I have two others

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^that I would offend.

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^Don't point at Tester, none of them are Tester.

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^(laughing)

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^Let me start with Fort Leavenworth.

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^The 35th ID Readiness Center.

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^Secretary Niemeyer, I appreciate the chance

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^I've had to work with you in the services

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^that you attempt to work with and coordinate

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^and I thank you for that relationship.

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^Let me ask you and General Bingham

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^our committee provided in FY 2017, 31.9 million dollars

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^for a new readiness center at Fort Leavenworth.

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^Only this last February has the national guard bureau

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^released a request for proposal

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^to award a contract for construction.

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^I'm not here to analyze why that's the case,

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^I just would like to know if you and General Bingham

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^would commit to me doing everything you can

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^to see that this..

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^We make up for the lost time that this project

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^proceeds to its rapid completion.

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^- [Lucian] Yes sir I will.

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^- [Jerry] Thank you, General?

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^- Thank you, we appreciate the opportunity

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^through our Army National Guard master transformation

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^plan for readiness centers.

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^We are definitely very much wanting to improve

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^the readiness of all of those facilities

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^and currently we are using sustainment dollars

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^as well as R&M dollars and MILCON dollars to do that.

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^- Thank you ma'am.

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^Let me know talk about Sunflower,

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^excuse me Army Ammunition Plant.

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^Not a conversation that we've not had previously.

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^This begins in 2005 when the Army conveyed Sunflower

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^Army Ammunition Plant which is over 9,000 acres of land

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^in Johnson County, Kansas, the suburbs of Kansas City

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^on the Kansas side, to Sunflower Redevelopment.

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^This has drug on a very long time.

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^10 years of back and forth on remediation of the land.

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^I convened a meeting in 2015 with the Army

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^and brought officials to Sunflower

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^trying to get everyone on the same page.

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^Of course, that commitment was made to me

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^and to the people in the room.

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^Three years later, I view the disconnect continues.

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^FY '18 MILCON construction has report language,

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^bill language that directs the Army to conduct

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^an assessment to ensure that the redevelopment

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^priorities are synchronized with the developer

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^and the Army.

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^I don't know that the situation today is any better

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^and it doesn't seem like anybody is taking charge.

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^It's so slow.

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^The project managers are running out of funds

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^and the works stops, it's a waste of time and money.

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^The Army apparently will be at Sunflower

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^for another decade cleaning up the site.

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^It's just such a long haul and I would ask you

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^General Bingham, I'd like to request that you visit

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^with me Sunflower and get a picture

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^for what I'm talking about.

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^And then I would ask you to follow up with me

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^that you could tell me the facts about what the total

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^expenditure on remediation by the Army has,

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^what's been completed and at what cost

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^and I need to also highlight for you the specific need

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^for removal of concrete on the site,

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^so first of all, I want to highlight the concrete,

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^second would like you to agree to come with me

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^and see the facility, see the location,

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^and thirdly, if you could tell me at some point

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^in the near future the amount of money

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^spent on remediation, where we are in the process

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^and how you see it being brought to a conclusion.

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^- Thank you Senator Moran, I appreciate that question.

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^I just do want to assure you though that the Army

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^is committed to fulfilling our obligation

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^to clean up Sunflower and point of facts are

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^we are in a three phased operation as you mentioned.

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^It has taken a long time, we're currently in phase one

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^that began in earnest about four years ago,

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^which deals with our planning and documentation.

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^Our second phase after we complete this, hopefully next year

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^will move into the execution phase and be able

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^to see that remediation through the completion.

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^But yes, I'd be honored to accompany you

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^to visit that site and we'll schedule that

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^with your planner.

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^- Thank you for your response.

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^Secretary, you instructed me,

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^probably in your words, you suggested to me

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^that I have a conversation on this topic

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^with the Secretary of the Army.

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^That has happened and he indicated

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^an awareness of the issue and indicated

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^a willingness to become more aware.

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^I would ask you if you have any other suggestions

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^of how I can better address this issue

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^in trying to get the Army to move more rapidly.

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^- As you were discussing with General Bingham,

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^I have made a note to myself to see,

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^I know General Bingham the last thing she wants to hear

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^where OSD can assist.

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^I'm not sure how much we both can provide

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^but I've made a note to myself to make sure

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^that my staff, my expertise that I have with my staff

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^can be available to General Bingham and yourself.

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^- Assuming that's fine with General Bingham,

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^I'm pleased with that because you have

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^an expertise and a background in this arena

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^and I would welcome your help.

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^Mr. Chairman, thank you.

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^I would concur with you, at least your line of question

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^about incremental financing.

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^We've got to get to the point in my view

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^in which we can begin funding even though we

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^don't have all funding and I would encourage

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^the secretary's office and the

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^departments to pursue that with this administration.

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Thank you.

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^- [John] Senator Tester.

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^- Thank you Mr. Chairman and I want to thank you all

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^for being here and by the way Mr. Chairman,

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^congratulations on the new soup committee.

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^- [John] Well thank you and I'm gonna miss you dearly.

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^- I'm gonna miss you too.

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^You are my favorite chairman, I'm proud to say.

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^But thank you very, very much.

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^- [John] As you talk about your MILCON project.

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^- Exactly right.

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^General Green, thank you all for being here.

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^I understand that you're gonna--

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^My crack staff tells me you're gonna hang up

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^your cleats here in some moment in time this year.

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^I want to say thank you for your service

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^and I've looked forward to working with you

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^and we look forward to working for the person

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^who is gonna take your place.

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^I want to talk about the ICBMs a little bit.

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^That's what happens when you have Hoven and Tester

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^on the same appropriations committee.

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^I want to talk about the weapons storage facility

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^and those projects.

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^F.E. Warren and Malmstrom

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^is moving forward although

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^because of potentially some issues that have come up

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^at F.E. Warren, we have slid from 19 to 20

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^and I don't want to put words in your mouth,

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^you can correct me on that.

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^Could you give me a brief update,

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^a very brief update on what's going on

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^with F.E. Warren and if it is going ahead

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^of where it was initially scheduled

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^or are we behind?

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^Do we have a potential slide another year

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^or could we potentially even pick up a year

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^and start this project towards the end of '19.

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^- Yes sir, so we've got one more request

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^for reauthorization to come over and

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^the appropriation addition for the F.E. Warren.

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^We've worked with your staff about that

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^and that should put it on track.

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^Where we've been, importantly, is the Commander

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^of Air Force Global Strike Command,

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^the Commander of Air Force Materiel Command

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^convened a working group and they went very deliberately

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^through each and every requirement

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^of the facilities and I won't go through

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^all the details but what we came out with

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^in the end is really the validation of many

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^of the requirements from security,

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^operational and safety.

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^Those were the three big rocks

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^so I think we have a good definition of what

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^we need in the future.

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^We've made the adjustments that we can within F.E. Warren

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^and we're ready to move forward and we're confident

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^that we can continue to learn.

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^- Have you started construction on Warren yet?

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^- No sir, we have not awarded the contract.

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^- But you anticipate now that that contract

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^will start on time and end on time

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^and we'll get to Malmstrom Air Force on time?

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^- Yes, sir, I'm confident we'll get

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^to Malmstrom Air Force on time.

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^- Okay, which is 2020.

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^- [Timothy] Yes, sir.

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^- Secretary Niemeyer,

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^look there are regional threats and emerging

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^global threats

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^that quite frankly all over the world.

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^We have had a tendency, and I still think we do,

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^to disproportionately foot the bill

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^in both manpower and equipment,

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^we're talking about equipment here today.

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^I think it is our obligation as the leader

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^of the free world to do our fair share

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^and maybe even a little more,

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^but the question is that time and time again,

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^I think we've put ourselves on the line,

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^taxpayer dollars, American lives,

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^and I don't think there's any doubt about that.

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^Meanwhile our allies are freed up to spend

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^a lot of those dollars that they may be

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^spending on some of the stuff we're spending on,

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^on education and infrastructure

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^and research and development and all the things

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^we need to spend money on too.

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^So the question is in terms of the overseas MILCON,

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^does this budget exacerbate our allies over reliance

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^on the US military to provide their security

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^and could you tell me why or why it doesn't do that.

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^- So we've spent a lot of time in the last year,

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^secretary of defense has, working with NATO allies

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^to ensure that we, we do have some concerns

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^with the size of the military, the spending by our allies.

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^We continue to make those points that we do

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^need to see a greater commitment on the part

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^of our NATO allies, particularly in providing

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^for their defense as well as a common defense of NATO.

01:00:05.550 --> 01:00:08.530
^We do have still requirements that we are asking

01:00:08.530 --> 01:00:10.541
^for your support for, within the overseas

01:00:10.541 --> 01:00:12.243
^contingency construction account.

01:00:12.420 --> 01:00:14.335
^For select projects that we believe

01:00:14.335 --> 01:00:18.830
^are needed to help us with allies which are increasing

01:00:18.830 --> 01:00:21.140
^their support for us and in countries

01:00:21.140 --> 01:00:22.990
^we haven't traditionally invested in.

01:00:23.100 --> 01:00:24.870
^We do believe those are prudent investments

01:00:24.870 --> 01:00:28.110
^to provide the secretary of defense his goal

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^with the national defense trade to provide

01:00:29.540 --> 01:00:32.710
^for more adaptive and disbursed basing opportunities

01:00:32.940 --> 01:00:34.610
^to allow us to be able to work with

01:00:34.610 --> 01:00:37.050
^a greater number of allies in Europe specifically

01:00:37.050 --> 01:00:39.443
^as we try to deter Russian aggression.

01:00:39.450 --> 01:00:43.350
^- So to put it really, to put it very bluntly then,

01:00:43.350 --> 01:00:46.770
^you believe that this budget is a fair balance

01:00:46.770 --> 01:00:48.750
^between what we're spending and what our allies

01:00:48.750 --> 01:00:51.640
^are spending as far as the threats that are occurring

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^around the world?

01:00:52.590 --> 01:00:54.488
^- I have not made personally the determination

01:00:54.488 --> 01:00:56.930
^whether it's fair, I do know why we are asking for

01:00:56.930 --> 01:00:59.737
^the funds and why they are in concert with

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^the National Defense Strategy.

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^- [Jon] Okay, thank you Mr. Chairman, thank you.

01:01:04.173 --> 01:01:05.437
^- [John] Senator Collins.

01:01:05.437 --> 01:01:07.183
^- Thank you Mr. Chairman.

01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.313
^Let me add my congratulations to you

01:01:10.317 --> 01:01:12.760
^as you take over the chairmanship

01:01:13.020 --> 01:01:16.188
^of this important subcommittee and I can assure you

01:01:16.188 --> 01:01:20.290
^that at this particular hearing, that you and

01:01:20.290 --> 01:01:22.340
^the ranking member are the favorites

01:01:22.340 --> 01:01:26.143
^of all of us here on the panel.

01:01:26.540 --> 01:01:30.500
^Both before us and the panel of your colleagues.

01:01:30.500 --> 01:01:33.583
^But it truly is great to have you here.

01:01:34.420 --> 01:01:38.550
^Admiral Smith, as you know, Maine is the proud home

01:01:38.550 --> 01:01:41.580
^of the Portsmith Naval Shipyard in Kittery

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^and I'm very pleased that the Navy and

01:01:45.070 --> 01:01:48.910
^the Defense Logistics Agency have requested

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^162 million dollars in total for much needed

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^improvements at the shipyard this year.

01:01:56.750 --> 01:01:59.715
^These projects will help insure that the

01:01:59.715 --> 01:02:03.200
^Portsmith Naval Shipyard can effectively dock

01:02:03.570 --> 01:02:07.330
^both Los Angeles class and Virginia class submarines

01:02:07.330 --> 01:02:11.410
^to conduct their maintenance support the requirements

01:02:11.410 --> 01:02:15.026
^to execute the Los Angeles class service life

01:02:15.026 --> 01:02:19.260
^extensions in the years to come and expand

01:02:19.260 --> 01:02:22.490
^an outdated warehouse facility that will help

01:02:22.490 --> 01:02:26.280
^the shipyard receive, inspect and distribute

01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:30.253
^submarine components for worldwide fleet support.

01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.810
^These modernization in infrastructure investments

01:02:34.810 --> 01:02:37.200
^are desperately needed, they've been needed

01:02:37.200 --> 01:02:41.800
^for a long time to help the shipyard conduct

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^the availabilities necessary to improve

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^and maintain fleet readiness

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^so it's very much a step in the right direction.

01:02:52.270 --> 01:02:56.130
^I'm particularly supportive of the more mature

01:02:56.130 --> 01:03:01.000
^dry dock revitalization portion of the Navy's

01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.263
^overall shipyard modernization plan.

01:03:04.520 --> 01:03:09.520
^That will restore 67 of the 68 deferred maintenance

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^availabilities over 20 years

01:03:12.380 --> 01:03:17.053
^so that's a great return on investment for the Navy.

01:03:17.320 --> 01:03:21.110
^My one question for you and I am getting

01:03:21.110 --> 01:03:25.680
^to a question is that the modernization plan

01:03:25.890 --> 01:03:30.890
^was completed before there was the additional funding

01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:36.760
^and in light of the fact that the size of the fleet

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^is likely to be larger than the plan's initial assumptions,

01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:46.330
^are you taking another look at the adequacy of

01:03:46.330 --> 01:03:48.683
^the current modernization plan?

01:03:49.620 --> 01:03:53.330
^- Senator, yes, that shipyard is great,

01:03:53.330 --> 01:03:55.100
^I've had a chance to visit it several times

01:03:55.100 --> 01:03:57.410
^and it's great to be able to see that we're putting

01:03:57.410 --> 01:03:59.460
^the resources into it that we need to put in

01:03:59.460 --> 01:04:02.503
^to not only that shipyard but all four shipyards.

01:04:03.085 --> 01:04:04.520
^Yes, you're correct

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^the shipyard authorization plan came out

01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:12.173
^before we identified where we need to grow to 355

01:04:14.170 --> 01:04:18.003
^so we are relooking that with a growth of the fleet.

01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:20.413
^What's in the plan right now?

01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:23.163
^What meets the future requirement,

01:04:23.370 --> 01:04:25.030
^what doesn't meet the future requirement,

01:04:25.030 --> 01:04:28.120
^what's that delta, what has to be added or changed

01:04:28.120 --> 01:04:29.870
^to do that, so that analysis going on,

01:04:29.870 --> 01:04:32.520
^being led by naval C Systems command right now ma'am.

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^- I'm very glad to hear that.

01:04:35.140 --> 01:04:39.440
^The other issue I want to follow up on Senator Moran raised

01:04:39.460 --> 01:04:42.543
^and that has to do with incremental funding.

01:04:43.080 --> 01:04:46.280
^One of the projects for the Portsmith Naval Shipyard

01:04:46.280 --> 01:04:50.490
^this fiscal year is to build a super flood basin

01:04:50.490 --> 01:04:53.570
^at dry dock number one and the long term goal

01:04:53.750 --> 01:04:56.330
^is to make it fully capable of docking

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^the Virginia class submarines

01:04:59.261 --> 01:05:01.510
^and eventually this is gonna require

01:05:01.510 --> 01:05:05.170
^building a partition within the super flood basin

01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:10.460
^which the Navy is planning to fund in fiscal year 2021.

01:05:11.040 --> 01:05:15.040
^So I understand the cost of the project is what

01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:19.750
^has caused the Navy to split the project into

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^two phased projects over fiscal year 2021 and 2022,

01:05:26.740 --> 01:05:29.740
^but my concern is that a phased approach

01:05:29.740 --> 01:05:34.230
^could introduce unacceptable risk to

01:05:34.230 --> 01:05:38.370
^the tight schedule required to make sure that

01:05:38.370 --> 01:05:41.720
^the project is complete when the Navy needs it

01:05:41.720 --> 01:05:45.800
^for maintenance beginning in January of 2024.

01:05:47.060 --> 01:05:52.060
^So rather than splitting the project, which significantly

01:05:52.550 --> 01:05:57.313
^increases the risk to the scheduled completion date,

01:05:57.650 --> 01:06:00.770
^would the Navy consider two options?

01:06:00.770 --> 01:06:05.770
^One either fully funding it in a single fiscal year,

01:06:05.890 --> 01:06:09.110
^it's a single project rather than a two phase project

01:06:09.510 --> 01:06:14.510
^or if that isn't feasible providing incremental funding

01:06:15.750 --> 01:06:20.750
^at 65% in fiscal year '21 and then 35%

01:06:22.270 --> 01:06:24.063
^in fiscal year '22.

01:06:25.210 --> 01:06:26.043
^- Yes ma'am, thank you,

01:06:26.043 --> 01:06:29.480
^so as you state, this is gonna be an expensive project

01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:30.623
^but it's much needed.

01:06:30.870 --> 01:06:33.340
^We have not built a dry dock in 30 years

01:06:33.590 --> 01:06:36.750
^so we're going through the engineering analysis

01:06:36.750 --> 01:06:39.820
^right now to figure out how to properly do this.

01:06:39.820 --> 01:06:43.140
^That engineering analysis will help us determine

01:06:43.140 --> 01:06:44.893
^what is the best way to fund that to make sure

01:06:44.893 --> 01:06:46.883
^that we get that done when it's needed.

01:06:47.330 --> 01:06:50.762
^- Great, I would ask that you keep us informed

01:06:50.762 --> 01:06:54.280
^as that engineering study progresses.

01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:55.130
^- [Dixon] Yes ma'am, absolutely.

01:06:55.130 --> 01:06:58.073
^- Thank you and thank you all for your service.

01:06:58.820 --> 01:07:00.053
^Thank you Mr. Chairman.

01:07:00.490 --> 01:07:01.323
^- [John] Thank you.

01:07:01.323 --> 01:07:02.156
^Senator Murphy.

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^- Thank you very much Mr. Chairman.

01:07:04.630 --> 01:07:08.283
^Welcome all of you, thank you very much for being here.

01:07:08.360 --> 01:07:10.963
^Admiral Smith, good to see you again.

01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:15.610
^I wanted to stay on the topic that Senator Collins

01:07:15.620 --> 01:07:17.580
^raised and that's the flip side of it

01:07:17.580 --> 01:07:20.120
^coming from the perspective of a state

01:07:20.120 --> 01:07:22.323
^with a private shipyard.

01:07:23.030 --> 01:07:24.840
^I'm very supportive of the efforts

01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:28.040
^to try to make up for this deferred maintenance

01:07:28.040 --> 01:07:29.840
^in our public shipyards, but as we know,

01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:33.501
^that's a long term project and even if you stay on schedule

01:07:33.501 --> 01:07:37.350
^the Navy has projected that there's going to be a large

01:07:37.350 --> 01:07:39.330
^percentage of maintenance work that just simply

01:07:39.330 --> 01:07:40.700
^won't be able to be done.

01:07:40.700 --> 01:07:43.240
^At the public shipyards, thus, it brings me

01:07:43.240 --> 01:07:44.073
^to my question.

01:07:44.073 --> 01:07:47.810
^As you know, we've got this workload valley

01:07:48.630 --> 01:07:53.561
^in Connecticut's electric boat as we seek to ramp up

01:07:53.561 --> 01:07:56.060
^to the point at which we're gonna be producing it

01:07:56.060 --> 01:07:59.040
^many times two submarines in that yard

01:07:59.040 --> 01:08:00.350
^at any one given time

01:08:00.350 --> 01:08:04.620
^and we are very worried about the likelihood

01:08:04.620 --> 01:08:08.060
^of losing some really important skilled workforce

01:08:08.190 --> 01:08:10.020
^during that period of valley

01:08:10.260 --> 01:08:15.060
^and so we've talked previously about maintenance projects

01:08:15.060 --> 01:08:17.050
^like the Boise and I'm glad that

01:08:17.050 --> 01:08:20.163
^that contract got awarded.

01:08:20.930 --> 01:08:22.750
^To the wrong shipyard, but Virginia

01:08:22.750 --> 01:08:24.053
^does decent work as well.

01:08:24.397 --> 01:08:26.720
^The question is just this, wouldn't it be wise

01:08:26.720 --> 01:08:29.870
^to fill this private yard workforce valley now

01:08:29.870 --> 01:08:32.490
^with some backlog maintenance to make sure

01:08:32.490 --> 01:08:34.100
^that that trained workforce is there

01:08:34.100 --> 01:08:36.580
^when we have that ramp up as the Columbia starts

01:08:36.580 --> 01:08:38.433
^to come into view?

01:08:40.100 --> 01:08:41.549
^- Thank you senator for the question, sir,

01:08:41.549 --> 01:08:42.899
^it's good to see you again.

01:08:43.260 --> 01:08:45.480
^Obviously the readiness of our fleet

01:08:45.500 --> 01:08:49.030
^is number one priority and also

01:08:49.770 --> 01:08:52.200
^the skill and the talent of our nuclear repair force

01:08:52.200 --> 01:08:54.550
^in both our public yards and our private yards.

01:08:54.710 --> 01:08:57.933
^I know that the Navy is looking now at how,

01:08:57.970 --> 01:08:59.840
^I mean we look at how to properly balance

01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:02.650
^across our public yards and I know we're looking

01:09:02.650 --> 01:09:04.170
^at how to potentially use the private yards.

01:09:04.170 --> 01:09:07.034
^If I may, I'd like to take the remainder of that question

01:09:07.034 --> 01:09:09.350
^for the record, and get back to you for more detail.

01:09:09.350 --> 01:09:10.883
^- Be happy to do that.

01:09:11.149 --> 01:09:13.960
^My second question is still focused on Groton

01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.855
^and New London and I'll bring in Secretary Niemeyer

01:09:16.855 --> 01:09:17.760
^for this one.

01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:22.022
^This is a really good study that was done by

01:09:22.022 --> 01:09:27.022
^the Navy regarding the housing situation

01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.540
^in Southeastern Connecticut and so

01:09:31.390 --> 01:09:35.563
^wanted to just get your thoughts on how

01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:38.350
^the Navy and Department of Defense

01:09:38.350 --> 01:09:41.930
^continue to work with us in Southeastern Connecticut

01:09:41.930 --> 01:09:44.910
^to solve what is going to, you know, not be a crisis

01:09:44.910 --> 01:09:47.240
^but a challenge moving forward because

01:09:47.519 --> 01:09:50.400
^as you're aware, Navy's gonna start production

01:09:50.400 --> 01:09:52.730
^on Columbia in 2021 and is considering

01:09:52.730 --> 01:09:55.810
^adding a third Virginia class and so you're gonna have

01:09:55.810 --> 01:09:57.380
^two boats under construction

01:09:57.380 --> 01:09:59.930
^and each boat is gonna have a pre-commissioning crew

01:09:59.930 --> 01:10:01.053
^of about 250.

01:10:02.280 --> 01:10:03.770
^That's conservatively, we're talking about

01:10:03.770 --> 01:10:05.870
^an additional 500 families not to mention

01:10:05.870 --> 01:10:08.226
^all the junior sailors that are coming in.

01:10:08.226 --> 01:10:10.950
^At the same time the DD is ramping up production

01:10:10.950 --> 01:10:14.680
^so you're requiring more and more workforce housing

01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:16.453
^so this report is a good start.

01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:18.710
^But I wanted to ask you about

01:10:19.015 --> 01:10:22.880
^plans to do a broader analysis of the impacts

01:10:23.030 --> 01:10:24.730
^expected over the next few decades

01:10:24.740 --> 01:10:27.410
^in Southeastern Connecticut and wanted to

01:10:27.410 --> 01:10:29.390
^ask for your commitment to work with us,

01:10:29.390 --> 01:10:32.630
^to try to come up with some really good plans

01:10:32.630 --> 01:10:34.440
^to make sure that we have adequate housing

01:10:34.440 --> 01:10:37.420
^for all of the Navy personnel that are gonna be on site.

01:10:37.420 --> 01:10:40.400
^I understand your book is not to make sure the DB

01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:43.790
^has private sector housing but their ramp up is

01:10:43.790 --> 01:10:46.350
^going to affect the availability of affordable housing

01:10:46.350 --> 01:10:48.643
^for Navy personnel as well.

01:10:49.350 --> 01:10:50.183
^- Yes, Senator, thank you.

01:10:50.183 --> 01:10:53.763
^Given that my nephew works at AB I'm also interested.

01:10:54.460 --> 01:10:56.323
^But no, you have my commitment.

01:10:56.520 --> 01:10:57.850
^I was actually on the phone yesterday with

01:10:57.850 --> 01:11:00.004
^the executive officer for the base,

01:11:00.004 --> 01:11:02.480
^talking just about housing so yes,

01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:03.617
^you have our commitment as we move forward

01:11:03.617 --> 01:11:06.120
^and make sure that we're working together

01:11:06.120 --> 01:11:08.480
^to make sure we can help solve what

01:11:08.770 --> 01:11:11.483
^is potentially a housing challenge here in the future.

01:11:12.090 --> 01:11:13.383
^- Secretary Niemeyer.

01:11:13.450 --> 01:11:16.663
^- Yep, so what we also have at the OSD level,

01:11:16.820 --> 01:11:18.770
^we have the Office of Economic Adjustment

01:11:18.770 --> 01:11:21.190
^that allows us to work with communities

01:11:21.190 --> 01:11:23.540
^and states to look at collectively

01:11:23.540 --> 01:11:25.683
^what does an increase in DOD activity,

01:11:25.890 --> 01:11:28.230
^potentially what can we do to mitigate

01:11:28.230 --> 01:11:29.840
^the impacts to work with the community

01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.190
^to see what improvements can be made

01:11:32.190 --> 01:11:34.110
^and look forward to using that office

01:11:34.340 --> 01:11:36.410
^to work with you on assessing what

01:11:36.570 --> 01:11:38.640
^potentially can be done inside these connections.

01:11:38.640 --> 01:11:39.790
^- We're ready, as you know.

01:11:39.790 --> 01:11:41.981
^The state has made unprecedented investments

01:11:41.981 --> 01:11:45.720
^in the subbase and we're gonna do whatever

01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:47.660
^is necessary to make sure that we have

01:11:48.085 --> 01:11:51.225
^what our Navy workforce

01:11:51.225 --> 01:11:54.490
^and our private sector workforce needs

01:11:54.490 --> 01:11:56.790
^but doing that in coordination with

01:11:57.700 --> 01:11:59.360
^both of you and others is helpful,

01:11:59.360 --> 01:12:01.560
^so thank you Mr. Chairman and welcome to the committee.

01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:03.230
^- One thing Senator Murphy I do appreciate

01:12:03.230 --> 01:12:04.340
^the opportunity to testify before

01:12:04.340 --> 01:12:05.340
^the next generation.

01:12:05.580 --> 01:12:07.883
^My 17 year old son would be asleep by now,

01:12:08.270 --> 01:12:09.377
^so it's a testament--

01:12:09.730 --> 01:12:11.402
^- [Chris] I'm gonna ask him how I did

01:12:11.402 --> 01:12:13.190
^when I'm done here, so...

01:12:13.380 --> 01:12:14.213
^Thanks guys.

01:12:14.770 --> 01:12:16.970
^- [John] Senator from Alaska, Ms. Murkowski.

01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:20.270
^- Thank you Mr. Chairman and congratulations to you.

01:12:20.270 --> 01:12:22.770
^I think you and your ranking member will learn

01:12:22.770 --> 01:12:26.560
^that when my priorities come up,

01:12:26.560 --> 01:12:28.630
^they always start with an A and it's not Arkansas,

01:12:28.630 --> 01:12:30.363
^no offense, but it's Arctic,

01:12:30.500 --> 01:12:34.970
^and my friend from Hawaii has learned that

01:12:35.290 --> 01:12:38.290
^this big Pacific ocean has warm spots

01:12:38.290 --> 01:12:40.340
^and colder spots but

01:12:40.523 --> 01:12:42.303
^from the defense perspective,

01:12:42.310 --> 01:12:46.070
^it is clearly an area of interest

01:12:46.070 --> 01:12:49.280
^so I want to start my questions

01:12:49.410 --> 01:12:51.363
^directed to you Secretary Niemeyer.

01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.973
^And this relates to our Arctic strategy.

01:12:55.610 --> 01:12:59.870
^Last May, Deputy Secretary of Defense Work

01:12:59.870 --> 01:13:02.360
^spoke about that Arctic not being a central

01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:06.653
^concern in the 2014 national defense strategy.

01:13:06.940 --> 01:13:09.510
^We now have the newly published 2018

01:13:09.590 --> 01:13:11.533
^National Defense Strategy summary.

01:13:11.700 --> 01:13:14.230
^It also does not specifically highlight

01:13:14.230 --> 01:13:18.563
^the Arctic region nor address the Arctic infrastructure.

01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:23.180
^So, I'd like it if you can provide me just a brief update

01:13:23.180 --> 01:13:27.030
^on the Department of Defense's vision

01:13:27.030 --> 01:13:29.940
^for posture and infrastructure in the Arctic region

01:13:29.940 --> 01:13:31.830
^and I'll ask specifically when I'm talking

01:13:31.830 --> 01:13:35.088
^about infrastructure, it's more than just installation.

01:13:35.088 --> 01:13:38.060
^I think it was just a couple days ago

01:13:38.060 --> 01:13:41.689
^I read an article about Russia's plans

01:13:41.689 --> 01:13:46.300
^to lay transarctic fiber cable

01:13:46.660 --> 01:13:49.730
^that will link the military installations

01:13:49.890 --> 01:13:53.070
^starting in Western Russia, bordering Norway,

01:13:53.070 --> 01:13:55.570
^across the Arctic to Pacific

01:13:55.590 --> 01:13:57.960
^and supposedly it's gonna allow them

01:13:57.960 --> 01:14:01.620
^real time monitoring of the operational situation

01:14:01.620 --> 01:14:02.713
^in the Arctic.

01:14:03.260 --> 01:14:06.450
^As you know, we're pretty limited in the US Arctic

01:14:06.450 --> 01:14:09.213
^when it comes to infrastructure in general.

01:14:09.330 --> 01:14:13.220
^We're making some good developments with fiber

01:14:13.450 --> 01:14:16.960
^but should we be prioritizing linking

01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:19.640
^our installations with high speed fiber so

01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:22.570
^we don't have too much time to talk about it

01:14:22.570 --> 01:14:23.940
^but if you can give me your views,

01:14:23.940 --> 01:14:25.040
^that would be appreciated.

01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:27.140
^- Yes ma'am, I'll keep it short and sweet.

01:14:27.140 --> 01:14:29.562
^The questions about an Arctic policy,

01:14:29.562 --> 01:14:31.630
^that's a little bit beyond my capability

01:14:31.630 --> 01:14:34.483
^versus the DOD position on the installation's energy guy.

01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:37.503
^I will say that from our perspective in our world,

01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:40.250
^Alaska is the center of the known universe right now.

01:14:40.250 --> 01:14:41.690
^- [Lisa] Ah music to my ears.

01:14:41.690 --> 01:14:43.590
^- We have a missile field we're putting in,

01:14:43.590 --> 01:14:45.350
^the fourth missile field, the Greeley.

01:14:45.350 --> 01:14:47.450
^We have a billion dollar long range radar

01:14:47.450 --> 01:14:49.120
^that we're getting installed.

01:14:49.120 --> 01:14:51.330
^We have a back up power supply in this year's budget

01:14:51.330 --> 01:14:52.780
^to go ahead and support that.

01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:54.740
^Eielson's getting two F-35 squadrons.

01:14:54.740 --> 01:14:57.033
^I'm actually going up to Alaska in June,

01:14:57.190 --> 01:14:58.830
^specifically because I want to make sure

01:14:58.830 --> 01:15:00.370
^that these projects are on track.

01:15:00.370 --> 01:15:02.319
^They're absolutely critical to our nation's defense.

01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:05.390
^So I can't really attest to the fact that

01:15:05.390 --> 01:15:07.420
^I do know that the National Defense Strategy

01:15:07.420 --> 01:15:09.950
^says that our homeland's along our sanctuary,

01:15:09.950 --> 01:15:11.623
^Alaska's part of our homeland.

01:15:12.110 --> 01:15:14.310
^I do know that it is very high in my priorities

01:15:14.310 --> 01:15:16.210
^to make sure that we are delivering capabilities

01:15:16.210 --> 01:15:17.560
^within the state of Alaska.

01:15:17.570 --> 01:15:19.730
^We're also working on innovative potential

01:15:19.730 --> 01:15:23.070
^power solutions to include what we can do for

01:15:23.070 --> 01:15:26.591
^more dedicated power sources for our critical assets there.

01:15:26.591 --> 01:15:28.400
^We've been studying that area

01:15:28.400 --> 01:15:31.054
^for small modular reactors for years.

01:15:31.054 --> 01:15:33.440
^We do believe that there is a potential for us

01:15:33.440 --> 01:15:34.280
^to be able to take advantage of

01:15:34.280 --> 01:15:35.880
^the emerging technologies there.

01:15:35.930 --> 01:15:38.430
^So Alaska's always in our thoughts

01:15:38.430 --> 01:15:40.080
^as far as what we're working day to day

01:15:40.080 --> 01:15:41.113
^within my portfolio.

01:15:41.470 --> 01:15:43.788
^- Well I'd like for the conversation about

01:15:43.788 --> 01:15:46.330
^just that broader view because I think

01:15:46.330 --> 01:15:48.870
^we recognize that we can put in that hard infrastructure

01:15:48.870 --> 01:15:52.640
^but you also have to have the reliable power

01:15:52.660 --> 01:15:55.890
^in a cold place and so the exploration

01:15:55.890 --> 01:15:58.130
^into this idea of what we might be able to do

01:15:58.130 --> 01:16:01.543
^with SMR's or the micro reactors but also

01:16:01.543 --> 01:16:05.953
^from the broadband capacity perspective,

01:16:06.310 --> 01:16:08.620
^you need to have reliability as well

01:16:08.620 --> 01:16:12.950
^and so these are key strategic investments

01:16:12.950 --> 01:16:15.913
^that we'd like to have further focus and conversation.

01:16:16.160 --> 01:16:20.220
^General Green, thank you for noting what we

01:16:20.220 --> 01:16:21.710
^were able to do in the CR,

01:16:21.710 --> 01:16:26.120
^making sure that the approaching arrival

01:16:26.120 --> 01:16:28.100
^of the F-35's, that that is going to be

01:16:28.100 --> 01:16:30.773
^staying on time, on track.

01:16:30.952 --> 01:16:35.180
^We are very keen in our focus on, as you say

01:16:35.180 --> 01:16:38.080
^Secretary Niemeyer, making sure that that moves forward

01:16:39.940 --> 01:16:43.293
^without complications.

01:16:43.420 --> 01:16:44.453
^Two things.

01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:50.650
^We've heard that with the prospect for steel tariffs

01:16:53.139 --> 01:16:56.893
^that this might impact the cost of the projects

01:16:56.900 --> 01:16:59.070
^related to the beddown.

01:16:59.320 --> 01:17:01.420
^Do you expect any reprogramming

01:17:01.922 --> 01:17:04.027
^will be necessary within the budget

01:17:04.027 --> 01:17:09.027
^or having to involve us in that aspect of it?

01:17:09.640 --> 01:17:11.420
^- Ma'am, we're watching that closely

01:17:11.420 --> 01:17:12.880
^along with our friends and we have not

01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.522
^seen an indication yet that that's gonna be required.

01:17:15.522 --> 01:17:16.720
^- Good, good, appreciate that.

01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:19.850
^And then with respect to the beddown itself,

01:17:19.850 --> 01:17:22.280
^I continue to hear concerns from folks

01:17:22.280 --> 01:17:24.263
^in the community up there,

01:17:24.467 --> 01:17:27.060
^the builders particularly, that the risk

01:17:27.060 --> 01:17:30.800
^of constructing off-base housing is higher

01:17:30.810 --> 01:17:33.510
^without the assurances from the Air Force

01:17:33.510 --> 01:17:36.810
^that you're not gonna move forward with new

01:17:36.810 --> 01:17:39.150
^privatized housing on base that would then

01:17:39.150 --> 01:17:42.580
^compete with the off-base construction.

01:17:42.580 --> 01:17:45.432
^So, this is something that I may raise again

01:17:45.432 --> 01:17:47.730
^with the secretary when she comes before

01:17:47.730 --> 01:17:50.930
^the defense subcommittee but I hope that you

01:17:50.930 --> 01:17:53.440
^could convey my interest in providing

01:17:53.440 --> 01:17:55.620
^the community builders the assurances

01:17:55.620 --> 01:17:56.820
^that they're hoping for.

01:17:56.860 --> 01:18:00.210
^It seems that the discussions are

01:18:00.393 --> 01:18:01.730
^a little bit better right now.

01:18:01.730 --> 01:18:04.100
^I'm gonna be up there next Friday

01:18:04.100 --> 01:18:06.260
^for our annual salute to the military.

01:18:06.260 --> 01:18:07.840
^That, again, gives me an opportunity

01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:10.380
^to be intersecting with not only the folks

01:18:10.380 --> 01:18:12.390
^on the civilian side, but our military

01:18:12.691 --> 01:18:16.540
^in these discussions, so I'm hopeful

01:18:16.710 --> 01:18:19.580
^that we're gonna be in a good place

01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:22.950
^but any assurances that you can give the community

01:18:23.220 --> 01:18:26.220
^about the Air Force intent on the housing side

01:18:26.220 --> 01:18:27.770
^I think is greatly appreciated.

01:18:28.140 --> 01:18:31.010
^- Yes ma'am, we have not begun any discussions

01:18:31.010 --> 01:18:33.080
^about increasing housing privatization there

01:18:33.080 --> 01:18:34.300
^to my knowledge.

01:18:34.300 --> 01:18:36.460
^So I will go back and ask the question again,

01:18:36.460 --> 01:18:39.453
^but I'm not sure where this keeps coming from.

01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:41.713
^- Okay, good, well I appreciate that.

01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:44.500
^Mr. Chairman, I have two more quick questions

01:18:44.500 --> 01:18:48.100
^that I'd just like to raise for their awareness

01:18:48.100 --> 01:18:49.700
^and we can do follow up.

01:18:49.700 --> 01:18:53.570
^One is Galena forward operating location

01:18:53.570 --> 01:18:55.640
^and this, again, is for you General Green.

01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:58.000
^A few weeks ago, I was up in Galena

01:18:58.400 --> 01:19:02.793
^which hosted the former Galena forward operating location.

01:19:03.060 --> 01:19:05.380
^It has site, the Air Force has some

01:19:05.380 --> 01:19:08.453
^site restoration obligations.

01:19:08.490 --> 01:19:10.780
^The RAB was out there just after my visit,

01:19:10.780 --> 01:19:12.900
^so I'm hoping that we can get some kind of

01:19:12.900 --> 01:19:16.343
^a brief on what came from those conversations,

01:19:16.510 --> 01:19:18.437
^just so I can understand where the Air Force

01:19:18.437 --> 01:19:20.390
^and the community are coming from and if we're all

01:19:20.390 --> 01:19:21.313
^on the same page.

01:19:22.050 --> 01:19:22.883
^- Yes ma'am we can get you a brief on that

01:19:22.883 --> 01:19:25.080
^and we certainly work hard to stay aligned

01:19:25.080 --> 01:19:26.030
^with the community.

01:19:26.350 --> 01:19:28.480
^- I appreciate that and I know they do as well.

01:19:28.480 --> 01:19:31.373
^And then final question, General Bingham,

01:19:31.538 --> 01:19:34.890
^this is related to the Fort Greeley school,

01:19:34.890 --> 01:19:36.793
^you may be familiar with it.

01:19:37.020 --> 01:19:39.490
^But this is something that is

01:19:39.570 --> 01:19:43.233
^an issue that just seems to defy resolution.

01:19:45.470 --> 01:19:48.740
^The rural school district inherited the building

01:19:48.740 --> 01:19:50.800
^which was constructed by the federal government

01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:53.113
^to educate the kids there at Fort Greeley.

01:19:53.254 --> 01:19:56.000
^The district can't afford to maintain the school.

01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:56.860
^They've moved out.

01:19:56.860 --> 01:19:59.230
^The Army's proposed to send the school district

01:19:59.230 --> 01:20:01.183
^the bill for demolishing the building.

01:20:01.310 --> 01:20:03.590
^The school district can't afford it,

01:20:03.590 --> 01:20:06.132
^they can't deal with the disposal of the asbestos.

01:20:06.132 --> 01:20:09.547
^So, we've been in extensive discussions

01:20:09.547 --> 01:20:12.473
^with the Army, they just haven't gone anywhere.

01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:16.450
^But I don't see where it's in anyone's best interest

01:20:16.450 --> 01:20:19.980
^to put these small rural school districts

01:20:19.980 --> 01:20:22.440
^in financial peril, so I'm just hoping that

01:20:22.440 --> 01:20:24.540
^we're gonna be able to come to

01:20:24.660 --> 01:20:27.200
^a more amicable solution and look forward

01:20:27.200 --> 01:20:28.950
^to working with your teams on this.

01:20:29.410 --> 01:20:30.850
^- Thank you Senator Murkowski,

01:20:30.850 --> 01:20:33.320
^and I remember last year when you asked me

01:20:33.320 --> 01:20:35.010
^that question and I remember saying

01:20:35.010 --> 01:20:37.003
^that we wanted to be good neighbors.

01:20:37.350 --> 01:20:40.870
^We wholeheartedly too, appreciate the school district

01:20:40.870 --> 01:20:43.250
^educating our children there at Fort Greeley

01:20:43.250 --> 01:20:46.460
^and so to that end, we've done a couple of things

01:20:46.460 --> 01:20:48.713
^though since we last talked about this.

01:20:49.320 --> 01:20:52.210
^We've been working with the school district

01:20:52.210 --> 01:20:54.880
^at the request of the garrison to extend the lease

01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:58.090
^to provide us additional time to help work through

01:20:58.090 --> 01:20:59.743
^an amicable solution.

01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:02.850
^We, in the Army, have offered to defray costs

01:21:02.850 --> 01:21:04.910
^associated with the landfill there

01:21:05.210 --> 01:21:07.990
^and I'm wondering though if we might continue to work

01:21:07.990 --> 01:21:10.680
^with you and your team to perhaps look

01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:14.480
^at a legislative solution for local educational

01:21:14.480 --> 01:21:17.763
^agencies for this type of unique situation.

01:21:18.160 --> 01:21:22.010
^- We are happy to explore solutions that will

01:21:22.010 --> 01:21:24.460
^work for the community, for the school district

01:21:24.760 --> 01:21:26.003
^and for Army.

01:21:26.893 --> 01:21:27.726
^- [Gwendolyn] Thank you.

01:21:27.726 --> 01:21:28.700
^- Thank you, and thank you Mr. Chairman.

01:21:28.700 --> 01:21:31.690
^I promise next round, I will not go over my

01:21:31.690 --> 01:21:33.740
^allotted time by four minutes, thank you.

01:21:34.590 --> 01:21:38.060
^- That's fine and we appreciate your leadership

01:21:38.060 --> 01:21:41.600
^on the Arctic and the Homeland Security subcommittee.

01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:44.640
^We were able to, with your leadership,

01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.580
^to push forward the ice breakers and hopefully--

01:21:47.580 --> 01:21:49.700
^- [Lisa] We are so, so appreciative.

01:21:49.700 --> 01:21:51.763
^- It is so very needed.

01:21:51.890 --> 01:21:53.493
^And again, we appreciate your leadership on it.

01:21:53.493 --> 01:21:55.173
^- Thank you.
Very much.

01:21:55.460 --> 01:21:57.540
^- I've just got a couple more things real quick

01:21:57.540 --> 01:22:00.573
^and I think Senator Schatz does also.

01:22:03.900 --> 01:22:06.050
^Major General Green, let me ask you a question

01:22:06.050 --> 01:22:07.810
^concerning Little Rock Air Force Base

01:22:07.810 --> 01:22:10.210
^which certainly, you know, is important

01:22:10.260 --> 01:22:12.340
^to the state of Arkansas but it's also

01:22:12.340 --> 01:22:15.170
^very important to the state, not only to the state

01:22:15.170 --> 01:22:18.033
^but to the country because of its mission.

01:22:18.370 --> 01:22:19.480
^As you know, we've had

01:22:22.326 --> 01:22:25.970
^an airport runway situation going on since 2014

01:22:27.590 --> 01:22:32.090
^that got into the middle of it and it wasn't going well

01:22:32.090 --> 01:22:34.190
^and essentially now we're in the situation

01:22:34.190 --> 01:22:37.263
^where we're almost starting over again.

01:22:37.670 --> 01:22:40.700
^I think the contract will be awarded

01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:46.863
^for redesign in September, environmental assessment.

01:22:47.180 --> 01:22:48.663
^A couple things.

01:22:49.990 --> 01:22:52.343
^We've been frustrated with it,

01:22:52.980 --> 01:22:54.960
^with the movement of the project,

01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.960
^again, since 2014, so let us help you

01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:02.660
^if you run into environmental issues

01:23:02.660 --> 01:23:03.710
^as far as the

01:23:06.090 --> 01:23:09.513
^anything that has to do with assessments,

01:23:11.670 --> 01:23:15.233
^redoing those, let us help you with those.

01:23:15.410 --> 01:23:17.760
^Hopefully there's not gonna be a bunch of that.

01:23:18.259 --> 01:23:20.290
^The other thing that we'd like is

01:23:21.900 --> 01:23:24.840
^at some point fairly soon to know what we anticipate

01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:27.740
^the cost and then also

01:23:30.201 --> 01:23:31.551
^how it's gonna be paid for.

01:23:31.913 --> 01:23:35.423
^Those are fairly basic things so,

01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:38.060
^again, like I say, if you'll just commit

01:23:38.060 --> 01:23:41.590
^to kind of shepherding that and making sure

01:23:41.590 --> 01:23:43.370
^that we stay on track and do the things

01:23:43.370 --> 01:23:45.770
^we need to do, we would greatly appreciate that.

01:23:46.658 --> 01:23:47.910
^- Yes sir, that's an easy commitment to make.

01:23:47.910 --> 01:23:50.130
^We are all paying a great deal of attention

01:23:50.130 --> 01:23:51.343
^to that runway.

01:23:51.790 --> 01:23:53.860
^It's been on my radar since I was at

01:23:54.060 --> 01:23:57.483
^Air Mobility Command back in 2011.

01:23:57.900 --> 01:24:00.180
^We've been watching this so it's of great importance

01:24:00.180 --> 01:24:02.890
^to the nation as well as to Little Rock Air Force Base.

01:24:02.890 --> 01:24:05.080
^- Good, thank you very much and we do appreciate

01:24:05.080 --> 01:24:08.053
^your service and you are gonna be missed.

01:24:08.230 --> 01:24:10.198
^That's a great compliment coming from

01:24:10.198 --> 01:24:14.800
^an old University of Arkansas Razorback fan

01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:16.603
^to a Texas A&M Aggie.

01:24:16.980 --> 01:24:18.643
^- [Timothy] Yes sir, I realize that.

01:24:19.780 --> 01:24:22.160
^- But like I say, thank you so much for your service

01:24:22.160 --> 01:24:23.260
^and all you represent.

01:24:23.700 --> 01:24:26.740
^The other thing is I'd like to ask about

01:24:29.710 --> 01:24:30.543
^hold on

01:24:48.080 --> 01:24:48.913
^accountability.

01:24:49.530 --> 01:24:53.950
^And you mentioned Vice Admiral Smith,

01:24:53.950 --> 01:24:56.480
^you know you certainly hadn't got the money

01:24:56.480 --> 01:24:59.323
^that you liked but you got twice as much as you've had.

01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.040
^When we look at the projects that are going out,

01:25:02.040 --> 01:25:04.720
^we've got all of these projects that are exceeding

01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:07.723
^100 million dollars, big projects.

01:25:10.460 --> 01:25:12.960
^We've got the increase in the economy

01:25:13.310 --> 01:25:15.550
^with the market fluctuating that way

01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.130
^which makes a huge difference as you go forward

01:25:18.130 --> 01:25:21.480
^with these projects so I guess my question is

01:25:22.320 --> 01:25:25.160
^what are you doing, what tools do we need to give you

01:25:25.160 --> 01:25:26.890
^if we need to give you some more

01:25:27.290 --> 01:25:30.290
^in regarding maximizing the ability to get

01:25:30.290 --> 01:25:33.993
^the best prices, how do we hold our contractors accountable?

01:25:34.045 --> 01:25:36.800
^Those kind of situations, so

01:25:37.570 --> 01:25:39.490
^again, if you'd like to jump in,

01:25:39.490 --> 01:25:42.953
^we can start with you Mr. Secretary.

01:25:43.190 --> 01:25:46.770
^- Yes, sir, unfortunately the Little Rock runway's

01:25:46.770 --> 01:25:49.000
^a perfect case where we probably should have done

01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:50.333
^a better job overall.

01:25:50.452 --> 01:25:53.820
^I think just the frustration there, even at my level,

01:25:53.820 --> 01:25:55.600
^about how that project was carried out

01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:57.400
^and why we didn't do a better job working

01:25:57.400 --> 01:26:00.220
^with the requirements, working with the program manager,

01:26:00.220 --> 01:26:02.013
^making sure we had a contractor on board

01:26:02.013 --> 01:26:03.233
^that could do the work.

01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:06.640
^But that's endemic of some of the concerns we have

01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:09.643
^right now in some of our execution across the board.

01:26:09.980 --> 01:26:11.910
^We do have a commitment to the secretary of defense

01:26:11.910 --> 01:26:14.470
^to deliver military construction projects on time

01:26:14.470 --> 01:26:15.393
^and under target.

01:26:15.570 --> 01:26:17.620
^That's probably the best thing we can do.

01:26:17.630 --> 01:26:20.563
^Your continued oversight on that is good.

01:26:21.010 --> 01:26:23.300
^I'm not sure we need any additional authorities right now.

01:26:23.300 --> 01:26:25.230
^Our flexibility, I think we just need to be able

01:26:25.230 --> 01:26:28.572
^to do a better job of working with our construction agents,

01:26:28.572 --> 01:26:31.860
^making sure our requirements match

01:26:32.120 --> 01:26:34.400
^what we ultimately build and that we're working

01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:35.810
^with the contractor community

01:26:35.810 --> 01:26:37.190
^to resolve any concerns there.

01:26:37.190 --> 01:26:38.600
^My concern here is right now

01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:40.050
^we have contracting officers,

01:26:40.050 --> 01:26:41.890
^in some cases who are running projects

01:26:41.890 --> 01:26:43.970
^versus the program managers, the engineers,

01:26:43.970 --> 01:26:45.873
^and we've got to get a handle on that.

01:26:46.350 --> 01:26:47.990
^We've talked to the committee about this before,

01:26:47.990 --> 01:26:49.370
^you've put some good language in the past

01:26:49.370 --> 01:26:50.253
^to help us there.

01:26:50.330 --> 01:26:52.510
^Continuing with some oversight there,

01:26:52.510 --> 01:26:53.933
^I think would be very beneficial for us

01:26:53.933 --> 01:26:55.650
^so we have to come and explain ourselves,

01:26:55.650 --> 01:26:56.763
^I think ultimately is good for the American people

01:26:56.763 --> 01:26:59.063
^to make sure we're spending dollars prudently.

01:26:59.625 --> 01:27:02.510
^- We appreciate that and certainly anything we

01:27:02.510 --> 01:27:05.713
^can do, language wise, or whatever to be helpful.

01:27:08.380 --> 01:27:12.530
^Vice Admiral Smith, like I say, you've got additional

01:27:12.530 --> 01:27:14.363
^funds to go round.

01:27:15.100 --> 01:27:17.000
^What are some of the things that...

01:27:18.190 --> 01:27:19.573
^Better forecasting?

01:27:20.050 --> 01:27:22.633
^How do we prevent overruns and things like that?

01:27:22.900 --> 01:27:25.483
^- So in the pressurized environment,

01:27:25.780 --> 01:27:28.760
^we've been shortchanging ourselves in planning and design

01:27:29.170 --> 01:27:30.500
^and not been putting enough money into that,

01:27:30.500 --> 01:27:33.663
^so part of this is we've increased up to 8%,

01:27:33.972 --> 01:27:36.893
^from 5% to 8% of the project now for planning and design.

01:27:37.020 --> 01:27:38.770
^So we're gonna do a better job up front.

01:27:38.770 --> 01:27:39.880
^The other thing we've done,

01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:41.390
^we stole from the acquisition community,

01:27:41.390 --> 01:27:43.740
^we weren't doing this on the construction side,

01:27:43.740 --> 01:27:46.180
^is as it planes going on, both Navy installations

01:27:46.180 --> 01:27:48.030
^command and Navy facilities command

01:27:48.110 --> 01:27:49.140
^are gonna do gate reviews.

01:27:49.140 --> 01:27:51.540
^So as the project goes forward and develops,

01:27:51.540 --> 01:27:53.790
^the commanders and their teams and both those

01:27:53.818 --> 01:27:56.810
^organizations are gonna review the projects

01:27:56.810 --> 01:27:59.340
^to make sure they're progressing properly

01:27:59.390 --> 01:28:01.310
^so we don't find surprises in the backside,

01:28:01.310 --> 01:28:03.400
^which is where we have not been very good

01:28:03.400 --> 01:28:04.233
^in the past.

01:28:04.620 --> 01:28:05.993
^- Very good, anybody else?

01:28:10.240 --> 01:28:11.143
^Evidently not.

01:28:13.650 --> 01:28:14.483
^Senator Schatz.

01:28:16.110 --> 01:28:18.363
^- Thank you, let's start with Mr. Niemeyer.

01:28:18.660 --> 01:28:22.960
^Can we expect the fiscal year 2019 budget amendment

01:28:22.960 --> 01:28:27.203
^with MILCON request to reflect the current budget agreement?

01:28:31.500 --> 01:28:33.130
^- I'll have to check with the (mumbles),

01:28:33.130 --> 01:28:35.380
^I don't know if we have any particular budget

01:28:35.697 --> 01:28:36.863
^numbers in place right now.

01:28:36.940 --> 01:28:38.070
^Or plans for those.

01:28:38.070 --> 01:28:40.630
^- Okay I want to talk to you a little bit about energy.

01:28:40.630 --> 01:28:44.773
^I know the department is investing in energy resiliency,

01:28:46.180 --> 01:28:49.210
^sort of on base, in installations.

01:28:49.210 --> 01:28:51.710
^I'm wondering what the thinking is outside of

01:28:51.710 --> 01:28:53.550
^the fence line, especially to the extent

01:28:53.550 --> 01:28:57.290
^the installations are in the United States

01:29:00.648 --> 01:29:02.173
^or on the commercial grid.

01:29:02.210 --> 01:29:04.100
^Seems to me we have to worry about outside

01:29:04.100 --> 01:29:05.910
^of the fence line too so what's your thinking

01:29:05.910 --> 01:29:06.853
^along those lines?

01:29:06.910 --> 01:29:08.333
^- Yes sir, completely agree.

01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:10.640
^First of all, we're really proud what's going on

01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:12.490
^in Hawaii right now working with HICO

01:29:13.910 --> 01:29:15.350
^and collaboratively working together

01:29:15.350 --> 01:29:16.600
^to address any security--

01:29:16.812 --> 01:29:17.803
^- [Brian] I was hoping that you'd say that.

01:29:17.803 --> 01:29:20.460
^- I think it's gonna end up being a fantastic

01:29:20.460 --> 01:29:23.060
^example of how we can work together with local utility

01:29:23.060 --> 01:29:25.590
^to address the concerns in Hawaii and Oahu

01:29:25.590 --> 01:29:27.930
^in addition to providing security that we need

01:29:27.930 --> 01:29:29.980
^to power our critical missions out there.

01:29:31.667 --> 01:29:34.880
^On a larger scale, you did hit upon a fantastic point.

01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.780
^We do have specific requirements for the country

01:29:38.570 --> 01:29:41.220
^where we only allow for MILCON inside the fence line.

01:29:41.220 --> 01:29:43.520
^There might be a need for a transmission line,

01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:45.620
^or maybe two or three miles to get us to a substation

01:29:45.620 --> 01:29:47.160
^that might give us a significant amount

01:29:47.160 --> 01:29:48.483
^of redundant capability.

01:29:48.610 --> 01:29:51.103
^Right now, our ability to do that is limited.

01:29:51.150 --> 01:29:52.793
^- [Brian] By statute.

01:29:52.793 --> 01:29:53.810
^- By statute.

01:29:53.810 --> 01:29:55.960
^And correctly so, I think we need to come back

01:29:55.960 --> 01:29:58.200
^to Congress to explain why we want to do this.

01:29:58.200 --> 01:29:59.530
^There's a program called--

01:29:59.530 --> 01:30:02.513
^- But by limited waiver authority,

01:30:02.706 --> 01:30:05.440
^this isn't gonna be dozens of requests.

01:30:05.440 --> 01:30:07.250
^It's gonna be only in those instances where

01:30:07.250 --> 01:30:09.300
^it's technically necessary.

01:30:09.300 --> 01:30:11.440
^- What I like, we have a similar program

01:30:11.440 --> 01:30:12.980
^for transportation improvements where

01:30:12.980 --> 01:30:14.900
^we need to build a road off base.

01:30:14.900 --> 01:30:16.623
^We go to defense access roads,

01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:19.593
^we come to you with the military construction request.

01:30:19.610 --> 01:30:21.950
^Once you appropriate funds, then we transfer those funds

01:30:21.950 --> 01:30:23.650
^over to a local department of transportation.

01:30:23.650 --> 01:30:25.570
^I would love to have a similar authority

01:30:25.570 --> 01:30:27.390
^where we could then come to you.

01:30:27.390 --> 01:30:29.390
^You all can authorize and appropriate it

01:30:29.440 --> 01:30:31.070
^and then we can then work with the utility

01:30:31.070 --> 01:30:33.340
^where we need that last bit of line

01:30:33.340 --> 01:30:36.260
^or that last bit of a substation that's off

01:30:36.280 --> 01:30:38.400
^an installation that gives us energy security.

01:30:38.400 --> 01:30:40.052
^- And the vote is coming up so I'll

01:30:40.052 --> 01:30:42.441
^take the next two for the record

01:30:42.441 --> 01:30:45.410
^and the first question is for Mr. Niemeyer

01:30:45.410 --> 01:30:47.493
^and Major General Coglianese.

01:30:48.130 --> 01:30:51.340
^I continue to worry about the plans

01:30:51.340 --> 01:30:53.750
^to relocate marines to Guam.

01:30:53.750 --> 01:30:56.960
^I think it is fraught with technical, political,

01:30:56.960 --> 01:30:59.240
^logistical funding challenges

01:30:59.690 --> 01:31:02.840
^and I think we've had stars in our eyes about

01:31:02.840 --> 01:31:05.200
^how easy this was gonna be for the last

01:31:06.230 --> 01:31:08.003
^as long as it's been the plan.

01:31:08.060 --> 01:31:10.870
^It's been a relatively, speaking unrealistic plan,

01:31:10.870 --> 01:31:12.830
^I think we're getting closer to being able

01:31:12.830 --> 01:31:14.220
^to execute, I understand that,

01:31:14.220 --> 01:31:17.240
^but there are still pretty big challenges on the plans

01:31:17.350 --> 01:31:22.350
^ranges in CNMI and my question specifically is

01:31:22.920 --> 01:31:25.370
^do you have contingency plans

01:31:25.700 --> 01:31:29.523
^if Tinian and Pagan can't be built.

01:31:29.910 --> 01:31:32.830
^How do we maintain our ability to train

01:31:33.090 --> 01:31:36.940
^if NEPA or local politics or logistics

01:31:36.940 --> 01:31:40.280
^or contractor availability or whatever it may be

01:31:40.544 --> 01:31:43.770
^cause us to have to move the time lines to the right

01:31:43.770 --> 01:31:46.480
^so that's one for the record

01:31:46.480 --> 01:31:50.960
^and then finally, I just wanted to echo the chairman's

01:31:51.510 --> 01:31:54.770
^enthusiasm for the Office of Economic Adjustment

01:31:54.980 --> 01:31:57.580
^and I'll offer question for the record but

01:31:57.580 --> 01:31:59.470
^I know that there's been discussion

01:31:59.470 --> 01:32:01.820
^sort of at both sides of this dais around

01:32:01.820 --> 01:32:03.260
^the Office of Economic Adjustment

01:32:03.260 --> 01:32:05.150
^but from the policymaker's perspective,

01:32:05.150 --> 01:32:08.063
^I think it's at least pretty nearly unanimous.

01:32:08.323 --> 01:32:10.010
^- [Lucian] That you for your support for that office.

01:32:10.010 --> 01:32:10.843
^- Thank you.

01:32:15.300 --> 01:32:17.670
^- Well thank you all so much for being here

01:32:17.670 --> 01:32:20.560
^and I think we had a really good hearing.

01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:22.870
^I know you all are busy, you got lots to do

01:32:22.870 --> 01:32:25.590
^but it's so important to come over

01:32:25.590 --> 01:32:27.170
^and tell us what's going on

01:32:27.566 --> 01:32:30.580
^and also for us to figure out how we can help you,

01:32:30.580 --> 01:32:31.920
^that's really what it's all about,

01:32:31.920 --> 01:32:34.040
^is trying to make the

01:32:35.086 --> 01:32:39.530
^branches that you all represent is efficient as possible

01:32:40.040 --> 01:32:42.490
^and making the life of the men and women

01:32:42.490 --> 01:32:45.710
^that serve in uniform as easy as we can also

01:32:45.740 --> 01:32:48.260
^in the sense of that commitment,

01:32:48.260 --> 01:32:52.053
^so again, we appreciate very, very much.

01:32:52.940 --> 01:32:55.100
^For members of the subcommittee, any questions

01:32:55.100 --> 01:32:57.470
^for the record should be turned into subcommittee staff

01:32:57.470 --> 01:32:58.753
^no later than Friday.

