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- Good morning everyone.

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Again, I'm Hank Giffin the East Coast vice president

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of the service Navy Association.

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Welcome to the ship building panel with the PEO's

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I usually go through the introductions

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but I know we're running late.

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So I will skip that if you're interested

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you can obviously go online and I expect most you know

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these distinguished officers anyway.

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So with that I'm going to get off the stage

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and I just ask you that

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you use the microphones for questions.

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Turn your cell phones off and enjoy.

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And we're going to be at 11:45 is a hard time

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because they have a lunch in

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that some folks have to get to both sides, I believe.

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- All right, thanks.
- You're welcome, sir.

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Sorry, didn't had opportunity
- Thank you.

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That's all right.

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And since the lunch is my boss we will be on time.

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So that's good.

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No, it's great.

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It's great to be here.

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I am Secretary Grosklags

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and the CNOs principal military deputy.

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You notice my warfare device

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is a little out of balance here for this

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but we're actually going to cover

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the ship building enterprise with large

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and then later this afternoon we'll do maintenance.

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Anyway, I've been in the job for a little over two years.

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I was PEO for submarines for five years

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and before that Virginia program manager.

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So I really was a submarine guy

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getting exposed now to this ship industry

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of Arleigh Burke destroyers, Zumwalts

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what Doug does when he's not

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doing sonar development for the submarine force.

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Minor difference

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and working on the Aegis class and radar

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so, it's been fabulous some learning experience for me

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and I very much look forward

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to the next year's work under a new secretary.

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I think, you'll have a good insight today at lunch

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what Secretary Grosklags' priorities are

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and how he thinks about acquisition

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and where he'd like to head.

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So it is a real pleasure for the submarine qualified officer

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to moderate this panel at shipbuilding

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and later this afternoon the panel on ship maintenance.

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The topic areas are inextricably linked

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to delivering naval capabilities to our force commanders.

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We are fortunate today to have a superb team

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of Navy and Coast Guard.

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Mike, I'm not call you a PEO today.

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One of the Coast Guard

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and I would, I will introduce them in a minute.

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Yesterday, if you were lucky enough

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to hear Vice Admiral Bill Merz

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and his team talk about a panel

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"Preserving our naval advantage investing in the future."

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The panel this morning

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will talk about the Navy and Coast Guard's investment

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in ship platforms and ship systems.

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In this investment discussion,

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it won't be exclusive to the surface navy

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because we have George Drakeley here

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who is the executive director for PEO submarines

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to discuss our submarine enterprise efforts

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and Rear Admiral Mike Haycock

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from the Coast Guard to discuss their shipbuilding work.

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So if you read the recently

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released national security strategy,

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it makes it clear that our nation needs a stronger navy.

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There are three interrelated elements to the ship

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and ship systems are part of that stronger navy

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capacity building and sustaining ships,

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capability with new and modernized systems and weapons

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and maintenance,

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keeping our ships at sea.

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The panel will further elaborate.

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Now the pace of deliveries, christenings

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and commissioning is continues and is increasing.

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In fiscal year 18,

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we will christen 10 ships,

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will deliver 14 and will commission another 10.

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Three of which, four of which are LCS's.

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Two DDG's, three SSN's

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and an LPD.

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But the key to delivering this pace of capacity

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is to sustain stable acquisition profiles.

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Building the base in Industry for future growth

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as the nation demands.

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Affordability is critical to achieving the Navy,

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the nation needs.

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The force structure, the modernization

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and the maintenance.

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The Navy's expectation of industry

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is that for stable acquisition profiles

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of maturing platforms like DDG's,

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SSN's, CVN's and even LX, LPD's to LXR's

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cost will come down.

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Learning curve, rates, effective supplier base management.

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A relentless focus on driving these elements

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to deliver the maximum capability

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for every taxpayer dollar spent.

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We expect our naval ship building industry to deliver

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world class performance.

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Industry investment and modern facilities

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and a capable workforce to achieve this level of performance

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is both a responsibility as well as an opportunity

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for partnership with the Navy

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using all the tools in our box such as CapEx.

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The bottom line here is that

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this isn't just a theoretical argument

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on how we deliver this modern capable Navy

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on ever decreasing timelines.

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Just look around, we are in an era

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of great power competition

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and our Navy is increasingly going to be tested

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by our competitors.

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The team up here, working with their industry partners

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have the responsibility of delivering

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this stronger navy our nation needs.

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So let me briefly introduce them.

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Start with Bill Galinis.

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We have him too over for me.

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He is a program executive officer for ships.

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Bill previously served as

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a commander Navy regional maintenance center

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and also was assuming the duties of deputy commander

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for surface warfare, Naval Sea Systems Command.

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He also served as the program manager

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for the LPD 17

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and he was a supervisor shipbuilding in the Gulf Coast.

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So there's not much in the surface acquisition enterprise

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that Bill Galinis has not done.

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He is an engineering duty officer just like me.

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Next to him, Doug Small.

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He is program executive officer

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for integrated warfare systems

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Doug previously served as the EA

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to then Secretary Stack Lee as RTA.

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And he also serves as Program Manager

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for integrated warfare systems and above water sensors.

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We know them as IWS2.

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I believe you are (mumbling) or predecessor.

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He's an engineer in duty officer as well, like me.

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So next to him Mike Haycock.

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He is assistant commandant

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for acquisition and chief acquisition officer

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for the US Coast guard.

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Mike previously served as a program executive officer

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and director of acquisition programs.

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He's got a lot of experience on ships and cutters.

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32 years, Mike, not get any younger, right?

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Now next to him, Mr. George Drakeley.

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He is executive director

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for the program executive office for submarines.

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George previously served as director of submarines,

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submersible engineering.

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So he was essentially our submarine chief engineer.

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He also served as a deputy program manager

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for the Virginia class submarine program.

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George was my deputy.

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A super leader

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and really an example of what's resident

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in our senior executive community.

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A complement the flags.

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He's also a nuke,

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was a nuclear cruiser hardened surface warrior.

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And then finally we have John Neagley.

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He is a Program Executive Officer for Littoral combat ships.

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John previously served as deputy commander at SPAWAR.

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He also served as a program manager for Littoral Combat Ship

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and commanding officer of the USS Fitzgerald, DDG-62

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He is a (mumbling)

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and he's been doing that for 34 years

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so this is the panel

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and I will turn it over to each.

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They'll talk for about five to 10 minutes.

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I'll give them a little bit of leeway

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and then we'll open it up for questions

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and if you don't ask questions.

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I'll ask them questions

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and they would much rather hear your questions than mine.

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Okay? So over to you Doug.

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- That one's not working.

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Good morning.

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So, I am Doug Small.

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I am the PEO for integrated warfare systems

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and as such I am absolutely privileged and honored

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to lead the world's finest team

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of combat systems professionals.

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Many of whom are in this room here today.

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These people are truly a strategic asset

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for our Navy and our nation.

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And it's my number one priority

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to make sure that within the PEO

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we always have that capability.

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So amazing group of people.

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We are to use the.

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I'll say somewhat pejorative term a (mumbling)

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for most of the other.

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For the shipbuilding PEO's

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and we
- An important one.

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- An important and important arm

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we deliver the war fighting capability right.

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What does that entail?

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While our work is a little bit different

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across each of the shipbuilding PEO's.

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You know, what we do is,

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we ensure that we deliver an incredibly lethal

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integrated combat system on time to ship builders.

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That's our, that's our primary goal

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and then we make sure that

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the crew is trained.

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That the system is tested

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and that when that ship gets delivered

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it is an all out war fighting around.

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For new systems we work across

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you know, all of NAVSEA

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and our shipbuilding PEO's to make sure that

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you know ship fit cost

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everything is a key consideration

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and what it is that we're delivering.

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Across size, weight, power, cooling, you name it.

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That's pretty much it for PEO IWS.

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I look forward to your questions

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once we get through the rest of the panel.

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Thank you.

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- All right, over to your Bill.

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- Okay, good morning.

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First of all, it's a real privilege to be here

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and I thank you for the opportunity to do this

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so I'm Bill Galinis.

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So, I'm PEO ships right now.

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And then I'll start like Doug did with the people part

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and I will tell you in the interest of time

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I probably won't mention everybody

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but you know, you're very fortunate to have

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a very solid, stable

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of program managers, deputies and program teams.

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That are working hand in hand with industry

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to deliver the ships

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that we're going to talk about here this morning.

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In addition to that, I would tell you across the enterprise

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I'm very pleased with the relationships that we have.

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Principally with our sponsors.

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(mumbling) General Kaufman.

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The two principal sponsors that we work with

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along with (mumbling) 42

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and some of our other programs.

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But we really, you know, those are

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those are good strong relationships and really

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really serve to help deliver the ships

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that we, that we're working on.

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What I'm going to do just kind of quickly

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go through the priorities that we have for 2018.

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I'm gonna use the chart (mumbling)

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really kind of talk about that so,

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you know our number one priority this year

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is right now is with DDG 51 program

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as we transition to flight three.

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So last year we delivered the first two restart ships.

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Those are in the fleet.

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Both ships came out of.

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One from (mumbling) one from (mumbling)

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Great quality on both ships

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and so we're very pleased with where we are.

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We also got the first flight three contracts in place

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and we're getting ready this year

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to award our first multi-year for flight three ship

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and you know that (mumbling)

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is going to be going out here in the next few weeks.

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So the team is just making

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tremendous progress on the DDG 51 program.

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The our next priority

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is with three 17.

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It's transitioning from the LPD program

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to LXR, okay.

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We've just within the last couple of weeks

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reached a handshake

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with the ship builder on LPD 29.

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That will be the last

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the LPD

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and I'll call the 29 and really 28

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kind of a little bit of a variant of the LPD class.

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But does those are transition ships

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as we move from the (mumbling) LPD

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that everybody here is familiar with

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and move to the.

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You know the new requirements required in the LPD

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for the LXR variant

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and so you know working with within 95.

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I think, we've got a pretty solid baseline

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working closely with the ship builder (mumbling)

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and you know, we're moving forward

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and the expectation here is

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we're going to as we move into 2018

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we're going to stabilize the acquisition profile.

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We've got the requirements,

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the technical baseline nailed down

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and we just we need to go forward on that.

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The next site and that will working

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PMS 500, the DDG 1000 program.

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Again, I would tell you know.

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Three ship class that I really see this is the

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is the future of the surface fleet

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and the technology that we have in this ship

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and the work of about

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(mumbling) is doing in delivering these ships.

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You know, it's really setting a foundation

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for where we're going in the future so.

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DDG 1000, our focus here is getting through

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the operational test point here in 2018.

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We're going to hand in hand

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with my counterpart here Doug Small

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and his team on the combat system side.

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we're coming through the.

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Excuse me, the combat systems activation availability

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in San Diego.

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We expect DDG-1000 to go back to sea here

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probably in the, in the April timeframe.

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Up in Bath DDG-1000.

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She's going to go back on builders trials here.

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Hopefully this weekend

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if the weather cooperates with us up there.

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But again making tremendous progress in

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you know we're on track to deliver her this spring.

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The fourth item that we're really working is in

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in PMS 377

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and that's the delivery (mumbling)

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(mumbling) off the Gulf Coast later this year.

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We're just now starting

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heads, head first into the test program

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with Ingles.

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And you know we expect to take her to sea

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you know later this year

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and then deliver this year by the end of the year.

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So again the team is just making tremendous progress there.

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Also within 377 a lot of work going on right now

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on the ship to shore connector.

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So these are, we're going to build 73 of these

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down at Textron and.

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You know we're working right now

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through the test phase of the first ship to shore connector

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and again we expect to get her own sea trials here

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this spring and then deliver the first

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couple of these ship to shore connectors here this year.

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So those are, those are really our big ones.

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The other programs just a touch real quickly

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you know on PMS 285,

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last year we commissioned the Lewis Puller

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over in fifth fleet.

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So that was the third ESB delivered out of (mumbling)

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And again you know those ships coming out of that yard

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tremendous quality.

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We're going to take ESP four on acceptance trial,

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actually in an integrated trials so

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builders an acceptance trial next week out of San Diego

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so that's (mumbling) in real well

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and then the EPF program 12 ship class

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we just delivered EPF-9 a few weeks ago

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and we're getting ready to christen EPF-10

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here in another another few weeks

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and we've got to number of the ships that are in the fleet

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and doing very well working closely with the

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the Military Sealift Command

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in terms of their operational piece

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and then the final program just to hit on PMS-325

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and the work that they're doing.

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I tell you 325 could be a PEO unto itself.

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They probably last year delivered

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over two hundred boats

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and vessels and craft to the Navy.

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With the work that they're doing.

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Their kinda Keystone program if you will

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would be the (mumbling) that's been designed

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and built by (mumbling) out of San Diego

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and will start construction on the on the first one of those

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here later this year so,

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just a lot of work

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those are kind of our priorities for this year

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just a few other things working closely with

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with our sponsors on the future surface combatants

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so you know we expect this year,

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we're going to start to make some traction on

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really defining the requirements work in the (mumbling)

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with (mumbling) on his team in 96.

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You know, you heard some of the discussion

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over the last few days.

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The importance of a network force

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that will be key to the future surface combatant

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and as we evolve those concepts

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and then the last thing I'll just hit on is

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is kind of our industrial base

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and you know Admiral Johnson talked about it

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in his opening remarks about,

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you know, kind of our responsibility

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to develop and deliver a stable acquisition profile

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and really you know the discussions in (mumbling)

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Whether it's the ship builders, the suppliers

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the combat systems

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team, it really is about stability.

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That allows him to stabilize the workload,

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stabilize the workforce.

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Get the right trained folks.

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But then the other piece that add is the affordability piece

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and that's another area that.

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I will tell you this year, we're going to be working on

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you know across the PEO

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continue some of the efforts there to,

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to continue to drive down costs

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across all the programs so.

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You know, good strong.

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I would characterize your industrial bases

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is very strong and getting better

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and (mumbling) Johnson also mentioned CapEx.

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You know, we're seeing that across the enterprise

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and you know that's only going to make the

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the shipyards better and certainly the products

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that we deliver of a higher quality at a lower cost.

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And so with that I look forward to your questions

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and return of my counterpart

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Admiral Haycock.

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- Good morning.

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Thanks for including Coast Guard in the panel.

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We enjoy being here each year

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and having an opportunity to participate.

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I'm the chief acquisition officer of your Coast Guard

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and as I prepared for these sorts of events

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I try to put myself in your shoes

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and think of what I want to hear

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if I was in the audience.

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And typically I settle on

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what sort of opportunities would you have

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to engage in Coast Guard acquisitions

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in particular for this

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ship building.

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So I'm just going to talk, touch upon

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some of our acquisitions or shipbuilding acquisitions.

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More as a teaser and if there's interest

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then we can answer your questions

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after everyone's had their introductory remarks.

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Let me start with the two are acquisitions

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that are.

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The production lines are hot

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and are delivering to the Coast Guard

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and one is the national security cutter

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and the other one is our fast response cutter.

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These are built out of honey the angles

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in Bollinger shipyards.

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Both of those production lines are hot.

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They're cranking ships out

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and those ships are doing a fantastic job

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in the Coast Guard.

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Particularly in the counter drug world

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and you probably heard a comment on

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I mentioned numerous times that

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our national security cutter in one deployment are now

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pulling in more narcotics off the street.

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Street values are exceeding the actual value of the ship.

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So that tells you a little about the design

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in the effectiveness of those ships.

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To efforts that we've got going on now

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that there are a lot of opportunities engaged in

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first is our offshore patrol cutter.

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Offshore patrol cutters are 360 foot

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Corvette frigate that sort size a ship.

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And that ship is going to be the workhorse of our fleet

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we're going to pull 25 of these things

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and it's going to,

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the program is worth more than 10 billion dollars

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and that effort is in detailed design now.

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So there are opportunities to really engage with the

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with a designer which (mumbling)

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To help deliver a cutter

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that's going to serve in the Coast Guard

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for at least 30 years, if not longer.

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Based upon our history holding on to our ships.

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That we're going to be awarding

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probably the production contract for that

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hopefully by the end of this fiscal year

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we're looking forward to that.

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We'll also probably be awarding

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the long lead for the second in class at the same time.

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Another one that is right in our face

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and we'll make great progress also on our heavy ice breaker.

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This is a replacement for ice breaker fleet

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as many of you know from some of these other seminars

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and such the Coast Guards icebreaking fleet

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is not in great shape.

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We've only got one heavy icebreaker out there

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so the intent is to replace that capability.

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That the program is in full force now

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we're working hand in hand

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with the (mumbling) team there

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we've got a joint team that's work on this

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we call them Integrated Programme Office.

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We've made great progress there.

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The requirements has been lockdown

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we issued a draft request for proposals back in October

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to get people talking and get people asking questions

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and we updated that RFP with

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with the second version that went out in

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second week of December, I think it was.

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Our goal there is to get that

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the real RFP the final one out

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and get it released in the first week of March

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(mumbling)

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we're going to get that late (mumbling)

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somewhere around that time frame the RFP will go out

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and then we'll be looking to get proposals

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and start to propose evaluation process

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late in fiscal year.

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Also some other opportunities coming forward

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(mumbling) of the shipbuilding classes.

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One of them that is worth mentioning is

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what we call our waterways commerce cutter

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that's a new program we stood up

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to address the needs of our inland fleet.

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So for those of you

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who don't have a lot of experience with that

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we have 35 Coast Guard cutters

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that work the Mississippi, the Ohio,

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the Illinois, the Missouri.

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Those inland rivers in the heartland of the United States

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and these cutters

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(mumbling)

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both the floating aids and fixed aids

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and that's what keeps the Maritime Transportation to.

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system operational

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and allows all the commerce

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grain and coal and oil and such

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to come up and down the,

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up and down the heartland rivers.

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Those cutters there's 35 of them

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and their age on average is over 52 years old.

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The oldest is over 70 old.

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So that entire fleet needs to be recapitalized

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that something we started here recently

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and you're going to see is

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that's going to get some legs

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and get some momentum here soon.

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We're, our goal is to deliver

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probably the first one of those cutters

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in probably fiscal year 22

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So we're in the early stages there

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we're work (mumbling) analysis

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but our goal is to have a single fleet.

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So we configuration management

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and there's a lot of opportunities.

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A small ship typically these pushers

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are anywhere between 65

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and a hundred feet in length.

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But there's also a barge that they carry with them

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and so the barges with specialized them.

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You either have a construction barge

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or you have (mumbling) navigation barge

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and so we're looking for some neat ideas

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on how we can keep the cost down

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and make this affordable

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and deliver a new fleet here in the next

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in the next decade or so.

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Next one we have is service life extension projects

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and so for those of you have seen some of those Coast Guard

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posters and you have a boat that's halfway on the water

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(mumbling)

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That's typically our 47 foot motor surf.

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Those are self riding boats

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that when they turn over they can actually right themselves

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and continue operations.

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We use them for search and rescue.

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Those are getting old

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and it is time to do a service like extension on them.

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So we're working that.

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We're right now we're early on the phases of

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doing terms analysis that's sort of things.

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But likely that will be done by coastal.

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They will probably be in an effort to recapitalize those

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on the East Coast

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and recapitalize those in the west coast

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as opposed to drive them all over the US to get them fixed.

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So that there's probably two shipyards

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have opportunities to play on that.

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You know there's enough of those

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and there's enough of the inland fleet

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work that might actually get the attention of

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some of the large ship builders as well.

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Also we're working small boats

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so the coast guard's bread and butter small boats

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(mumbling) things like that

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and so we've got a pretty good fleet out there

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but some of those

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are coming up on the end of their lives as well

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and because the short lifespan of those boats

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they're ridden hard put away wet.

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They're typically the service life of these boats

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is about 10 years of that.

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It's kind of continual process for us.

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So if you're in a small boat building business

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there's repetitive work there for you as well

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and that's what we're looking at.

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Also as a midlife coming up on

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that are kind of surprising.

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The national security cutters

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first one was delivered in 2008

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so the first was ten years old already.

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With a 30 year service life

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we'll be looking at doing a mid life on that here

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in the fairly near future.

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And Coast Guard cutter Healy

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or medium duty icebreaker (mumbling) of Seattle.

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It will be coming up for a midlife as well

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and then I think the last one is

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we're working UAS efforts as well

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and I know this is a surface navy

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but for the Coast Guard.

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You know our ships

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and their boats in their aircraft

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and their UAS is as kind of a force package.

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It's necessary for us to do our business.

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So one of these we were doing as a prototype effort

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on unmanned aerial aviation system

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and so on our national security cutters

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we deployed three times.

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With a prototype effort

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and we have a request for proposal

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that will be hit in the street probably

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by the end of this month.

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Which will be probably a five year

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five year contract actually it's an eight year contract.

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So we cannot fit all eight in a (mumbling)

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those on the program of record with a UAS (mumbling) package

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so with that I'm going to turn over to the next gentleman

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and if you have questions

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when it's over, I'd be happy to answer.

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- Thank you very much.

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Thank you all for inviting me to be here

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or should say inviting the PEO

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for submarines to talk with the service community.

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You may be wondering why there's one civilian on here

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and it's not to increase the diversity of the panel

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but because my boss (mumbling)

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wasn't sure he would be able attend.

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He had double knee replacement surgery

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during the holidays

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and he didn't know his availability

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would support this or not.

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So he asked me to fill in for him

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and expresses regrets

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and he would have been happy to be here

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if he could walk easier

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so you got me instead.

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Before I get into my little talk

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I just wanted to share with you

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that I've been Admiral Johnson's deputy twice

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and I can say from close observation

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that he is the most knowledgeable submarine builder

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in the Navy and probably in the nation

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and a real national asset for the submarine community

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and we are real glad to see him get his third star

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and stay around to help us with our challenges.

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And we have quite a few

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as most of you know or have heard

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and probably sometimes are tired of hearing

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(mumbling) and others say that.

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The Columbia program is the number one program

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in the Navy if not the whole DOD for acquisition

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and when I came into my job about two and a half years ago

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we had, the design was already underway

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and we were just starting to think about.

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Building the Columbia and starting a plan for that

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and at that time we were seeing the effects of going to

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to prepare (mumbling)

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and how this ship builders are starting to stumble a little.

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Just to put things in perspective

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through the 2000 to 2010

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we were just buying one Virginia a year.

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In 2011 we bought our first (mumbling) Virginia

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and have been doing that ever since

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and so that means we started delivering (mumbling) Virginia

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just a couple years ago when I started in this job

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and we were seeing a little degradation

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in their adherence to schedule and cost

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as they were delivering these first time a two per year

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we were looking at a period in 2000.

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Starting in 2021

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where we are going to be adding a Colombia

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and a Colombia is two and a half times

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the size of a Virginia.

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And then when you add the other factor that

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in 2019, we're going to start

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adding a mid section to the Virginia's (mumbling)

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The Virgin your payload module.

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Which is increasing the ship by another third

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we were looking in a few years

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of being five times the (mumbling)

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where we were in 2010

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and we were concerned.

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So we decided we needed

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be more integrated with the ship builders

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and do a more comprehensive approach to managing them.

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So we came up with a management style

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you could say a virtual organization

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called (mumbling) for submarine build strategy

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and it entails six levels of effort.

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The first this is a design

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and we're working to be 83% design

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when we start building the Columbia

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and the second is construction

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which covers (mumbling)

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and build plants and facilities

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and things like that.

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The third is material and supplier base

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where we look to see.

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It's not only the ship builder

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that has to expand to a level five times

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what they were doing in the early 2000's.

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But all the suppliers do too

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and we had a number of supplier quality issues and problems

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and there's a lot of individual suppliers

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and if you think of the industrial base

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you think a big manufacturer

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but a lot of suppliers are a small

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(mumbling) operations if you will.

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And so, how are they going to expand

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to handle this extra work.

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Some we are the major part of their work.

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(mumbling)

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(mumbling) five was acquisition and contracts

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and we do a contracting group

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that crosses both the Virginia program and Colombia program

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so we can match (mumbling)

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(mumbling)

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As you heard many times through this period I'm sure

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They want reduce the cost(mumbling)

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So we had these areas

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and we put people from the Columbia program

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and the Virginia program on it.

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The ship builders bolted the same things

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and in areas where it made sense

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we also had to carrier programs with us

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specifically, how we free material and supplier base.

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So this virtual organization has been working hard

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for the last two years

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and making some great progress

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and one of their products is known as the

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integrated enterprise plant.

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Excuse me, integrated enterprise plan

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that incorporates the planning for both Virginia's

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Virginia payload module design.

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Columbia design and gearing up for Columbia's construction.

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The manning increases at the government

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and the ship builder.

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The facilities and many other things

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and I have a copy of the plan on the table in my office

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and it's five and a half inches high.

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Weighs over eight pounds

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and is full of a lot of good planning

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and is the plan to record for getting through

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both of these programs.

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The Columbia program is a national asset

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for defense of the nation

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and has a very tight schedule

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and we have to make sure

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that we deliver the first one on time

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and the plan is to deliver the first Columbia

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in the same amount of time

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that it took us to deliver the first Virginia

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and that is two and a half times the size.

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So it's quite challenging.

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Fortunately by Samuel Johnson

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as the PEO got us off to a good start on this

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and as we speak right now

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we're actually ahead of our design curves

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and doing well on our prototype builds.

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So with that I'll turn it over to Admiral Neagley.

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- Good morning.

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Thanks for the opportunity

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to talk about the portfolio today.

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You know, if you were here probably year ago

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or maybe even that two years ago.

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You'd look at that my slide and you would see that top bar.

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You'd see LCS, right now

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pretty stable ship building program.

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We've got 11 ships the delivered

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another 89 contract.

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Superb performance by the industry

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and government teams to

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really bring stability in that program and deliver ships.

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The portfolio is growing

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I mean, I'll talk each one of these kind of lines of effort

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but some really exciting work going on

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in the ship building side for small surface combatants

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that are executing out of the PO

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and I will tell you I'm blessed every day

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when I come to work with the professionals

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I get to work with.

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To go deliver this capability both on the government side

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and our partners out in industry.

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It is been a cooperative team support to kind of get this.

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You can only deliver this capability

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at the cost the nation needs

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by having those strong relationships.

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Clear communications, understanding how to execute

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on pretty aggressive timelines.

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So LCS, you know we're all familiar with LCS

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Again, we've got 11 those ships delivered

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89 contract.

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All three deployments, four deployments

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to Southeast Asia.

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A lot of great lessons learned from those ships

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operating on the point the spear.

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Getting operational lessons learned

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back to ships in construction

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and capturing those constructions.

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Again a very stable ship building profile,

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we've seen,

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you know the block by strategy that we use for LCS

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has enabled our ship builders to invest in their shipyards.

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We've seen over five hundred million dollars investment

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across both our shipyards.

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Which allows them to you know operate efficiently.

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A gain (mumbling) with their suppliers

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and get us the best cost for the capability

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that we desire.

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Learning curve, they've come down

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steep learning curve you know,

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we from the first couple ships

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we come down you know,

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40-60% reduction in direct production labor hours.

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So that just talks to a really stable program.

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Great team work, great work by our industry partners

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and as a result of stability on the industry side

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and stability that we've provided

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through strategies like the block by.

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A method GX, we had a

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I think a discussion

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earlier in the week on FFG(X)

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we're in the process of evaluating

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awards for the concept design.

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I will tell you the a couple things about FFG(X)

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this is probably the greatest

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level of coordination collaboration I've seen

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with the fleet, with the resource sponsor,

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with the end users to kind of nail down the requirements

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for the FFG(X).

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Ron Voxel in my team and Jesse's team from the fleet.

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Spend a lot of time

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making sure we get that requirement right.

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Working collaboratively to understand

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what the capability is? What the cost of that capability is?

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Engaging industry early.

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You know we put our (mumbling) out last summer

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to get a sense for what the competitive base was

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and you know what?

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There's a pretty competitive field for this ship

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and so we're excited about

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you know, leveraging that competition

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to get the capabilities that we need.

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And do that effectively as possible.

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So we're gonna award that concept design study phase

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in spring time.

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That's going to give us an ability to kind of iterate

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you know parent designs to meet the Navy's requirements.

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It allows us to do two things

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that we've got to go after cost.

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So, we're going to look at opportunities

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reduce cost in the platform.

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We're the knee in the curves

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in terms of capability and cost

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We have that right.

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You know, the follow on objective cost

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where FFG(X) is eight hundred million dollars.

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We think, we can get below that.

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We think with competition

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with understanding what drives cost.

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And during this next phase to understand

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where capability perhaps is driving cost

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or where we can kind of get after it.

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We're going to use this next 16 months

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to work with our industry partners.

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To really understand those details.

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So when we get out the end of that phase

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we'll have a clean design

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going into detail, design and construction.

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Having a clean design reduces our potential,

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for having designed built concurrency in the next phase.

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So coming through this early

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understanding the designs, getting a clean bill spec.

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That will help.

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You know us our ability to accelerate program going forward

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and reduce the technical and cost risk

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in the construction phase.

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So very excited about that process

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the teams working that hard

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and I think, there's a good competitive base

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to get the capability that we want.

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The capability, in general we looked at you know

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so it's a more contested environment for us

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where we're operating.

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We need additional capability

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and AW, EMW, survivability.

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Those kind of things to knit together with the fleet

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of the future in the fleet today

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and we're doing a number of strategies to do that.

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You know, leveraging a lot of the investment

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we have in some of our GFE systems

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in our radar things like VLSC whip

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all those that part of the combat systems allows us

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to leverage that investment

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continue to reduced cost.

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Continue to improve in our operability

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and really bring that capability home.

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So a lot of good work going to happen

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over the next two years in that program

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and the team is committed to do that.

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Again bring that in it

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in an affordable cost for the government.

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(mumbling)

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You know, if you're familiar with the

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Saudi Navy expansion plan, this is a program

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that's been in place for a long time

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and it's actually kind of come to fruition for us

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and we're going to go execute

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building for multimission surface combatants

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for the Saudi Navy

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So my team is going to work with the Lockheed Martin

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who's the prime on that, to deliver that capability

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to our partners out in Saudi Arabia.

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And probably the biggest growth area for me

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and in my portfolio

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if you look beyond my ship building portfolio

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is in the unmanned world.

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And when you talk about the future surface combatant

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unmanned surface vehicles.

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There's tremendous opportunity,

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tremendous potential out there

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and we're working with Admiral Hans team

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over at R and R, O and R

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is part of an executive steering group

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to kind of look at.

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A what's the right level of S and T?

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What things do we need to do now

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with the platforms we have like Sea Hunter

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and the optionally unanswered as combatant

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that will be part of the ghost lead effort.

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To really inform, what the program record

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requirements will be.

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How do we reduce technical risk?

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This is all about accelerating

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getting that capability out there quickly.

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Getting in the hands of the operators

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so we can learn from it.

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Understanding, what the right capability,

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right payloads we need to go deliver

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and how do we reduce that technical risk

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to deliver the quick the capabilities quickly as possible.

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So a lot of great opportunity on the unmanned side

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we're looking forward to kinda learning from the,

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the next couple phases of

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SNT that pulled that forward, that capability forward.

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So those are, those are the

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my shipbuilding portfolio.

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So we're excited a lot of new things in the portfolio,

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a lot of lessons learned

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we're capturing from the LCS program

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to inform all those lines of effort.

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So it's an exciting time over at the LCS.

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- All right.

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Thank you.

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Well, can you hear me?

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No.

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Well.

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You can see we have a superb panel of folks

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who are experienced in battle hardened

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through years of acquisition and operations

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and I can be more pleased with the folks

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that are leading this enterprise

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in a very challenging environment ahead.

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This is the part for you.

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Where you get to ask questions to the panel.

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So feel free to queue up at the mikes

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and if in fact it lags.

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I will fill in with some of the questions

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I brought from my team itself.

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Nope! Sydney sorry you don't get to ask question.

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Go ahead.

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- Thank you, Admiral.

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So they, I'll assert

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that the capacity to change

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capability is a military requirement

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and let that debate happen.

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But what are we doing in the way

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we're building our ships in the way we're designing

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our combat systems to facilitate.

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Eye wateringly rapid capability change

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as a part of a lifecycle proposition.

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- That's a great question.

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I'll start with Bill Galinis

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since he's got the big numbers of ships

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and then we can progress to

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to both John.

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(mumbling) definitely plays in that discussion

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as well as Doug

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who's got the combat system that will plug into that.

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Open architected receptor we call a ship.

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Over to you Bill.

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- So, yes, I'll talk about (mumbling)

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some of work that's going on there

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and I will tell you the.

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You know (mumbling) radar coming to the flight three

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that is a game changing capability, okay.

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Once we get it out to the fleet

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and so you know the team has been working

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in concert (mumbling) and Doug's folks

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and industry to, you know, to go through.

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(mumbling)

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I think folks who are aware

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you know at the ranges out, out in Hawaii.

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This year we're going to be bringing that

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that equipment back to the Lockheed Martin.

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We're going to integrate that with the combat system

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you know in addition in parallel with that

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a lot of modeling has been done

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to get to reduce the risk

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as we you know we further integrate the radar

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the combat systems

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and then on (mumbling) side quite frankly

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as you know we had to upgrade the power plant

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bring in the higher voltage

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more air conditioning capacity.

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So those components are being shipped

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to Philadelphia, to do the land based test there

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to again further reduce the risk

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so you know, I think a lot of it is requirement

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was identified by the

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by N96 by our sponsor.

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(mumbling) kind of working with

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you know with the DDG-51 program office

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to kind of get that capability

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developed and integrated into the ship

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and then the testing that we're doing right now.

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You know that's kind of the path that we've gone down

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so a lot of it gets to.

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You know, testing and modeling upfront

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then testing of actual hardware components.

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Integrating it with the software

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at a sure site not only ship.

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Which is a unlike some of the way

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we do some of our programs today

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and you know reduce that risk

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and then get it to the ship builder to

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to get the ship built.

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- All right, thanks Bill. John?

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- Great question (mumbling)

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I'd give you three thoughts on that.

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So on the LCS side (mumbling)

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The power of modularity, right?

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This ability to kind of bring new capability

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quickly across to standard interface.

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Really enables a couple things

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allows you to get out there more rapidly

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and allows you to change technology more quicker

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without a big destruction to the ship

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and we've demonstrated that.

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If you look at the systems we brought on UAS.

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(mumbling)

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we flew a SMT kind of UAV

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(mumbling)

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We're able to do that

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because modulator enabled that.

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On the new construction site

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if you look at the you know, our frigate.

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We're building in margin in that platform, right.

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So this is not only margin, in terms of swap

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size, weight but it's power.

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you know we recognize where the future is.

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It's in lasers, it's kinetics,

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it's in electronic maneuver warfare.

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All those systems require

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you know, potentially some additional power margin.

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We're considering that up front.

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So having that additional margin for the lifecycle the ship

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is an important ability for that ship to kind of upgrade

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and bring those systems in.

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And to finally, I talk about leveraging the investments

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of a lot of Admiral Small's programs right.

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So, if you got a lot of investment into radar technology

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(mumbling) is a good example for that.

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That's the radar, that's going to go on the frigate.

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you know (mumbling)

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All that that's across the broader fleet

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and they were able to leverage that technology

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that investment on that technology

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and when you upgrade that once across the fleet

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you're reaping the benefits on your platform.

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So those three areas I would offer to

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all the way we're kind of getting after that.

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- Thanks John. Doug?

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- So, I'd say few things.

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First of is

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we do rapidly insert capability today.

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So I don't want to leave the notion

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that we need a wholesale change in shipbuilding

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or how we view margins to rapidly (mumbling)

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many of you are doing that right now.

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The next thing I'd say is from our perspective

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again as as because we have to deliver

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an integrated warfare system capability.

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We have to begin with, how is it going to fit on a ship

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and so you know we talked about (mumbling)

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you know.

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The (mumbling)story is really one of

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30 times the radar capability

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for less than twice the power.

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So it's really the march of technology allowing us to fit

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those eye watering capabilities on today's ships.

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That's what's enabling

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those future ships.

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But even today you know the our combat systems are

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have been developed with open architecture

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(mumbling)

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So we're able to very rapidly on a

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on a shorter than annual basis.

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React and deliver new capabilities to ships today.

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I hope that answers your question but we.

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- [Audience] You still have work to do.

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- I'm sure we do have work to do

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but I mean, this you know the idea of

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architecting systems

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or speed of insertion of new capabilities

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is these exactly what we're about

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driving out cost, driving out time

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and driving up capability in eye watering fashion.

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And then the other the other piece of it is

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taking those capabilities that are out there today.

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First off making sure that they work, right.

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So it can stream emphasis on readiness right.

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From what I tell our program managers is

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is it, while it may be

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mathematically impossible to get to (mumbling)

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You need to be impatient of its point.

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Nine, nine, nine of get it up to one point zero.

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The sailor needs to turn it on, it needs to work, period.

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The second thing is.

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How can we take all those things out.

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That may not have been developed.

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For an integrated fire control type capability

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and stitching together using system a system principles

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to make sure that,

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what we have out there is greater than,

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than the sum of each individual part.

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Again, these are amazing capabilities

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that we are able to deliver with the ships

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that we have today that may not have been

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you know designed from the beginning

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with open architecture principles in mind.

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But what we've done over the years

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has allowed us to get to that stage.

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- If you read (mumbling) future Navy paper.

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he's very clear on that's his expectation

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as we roll out this future Navy

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but it has to be modular and open architected.

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Which are words you hear but

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it actually gets built into the baseline of the ships.

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We will not relive the, I'll say sins of the past

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but we prematurely retired service platforms

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because it was too expensive to modernize.

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We don't know what the fight is going to exactly look like

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even three, five, 10, 20 years out.

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We have to build platforms that are rapidly modernizable

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not just combat systems pieces

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but the weapons that go with those combat systems

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and make sure that the (mumbling)

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can keep up as well.

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It's a hard do, but that's by no accident

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that the frigate specs looked a lot like

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things you see already in today's surface fleet

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or programs a record going forward.

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This commonality it will become

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ubiquitous across the surface fleet

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and I'll let George talk a briefly about

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what we've done in the submarine piece

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but you learn the value of not just the capability push

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but the training.

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So when a sailor goes from an arleigh burke

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to whatever this frigates class is.

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You see that pretty much the same

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(mumbling) the same combat system you know

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how to fight the ship.

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The training load is much reduced

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and therefore we can get the capability of the crew

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plus ship with modern combat system.

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Out, at a much higher level faster.

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That to me is rapid

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and that's the business that Doug

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and my platform of PEO's are in.

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Georgia want to brief comment on SWFTS in submarines?

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- Sure.

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So, SWFTS stands for

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the Submarine Warfare Federated Tactical Systems

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and it is a program that grew out of

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our advance rapid (mumbling) insertion program.

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In the submarine community we found that

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we were having difficulty

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with upgrading our combat systems

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so we went to (mumbling) base system

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and we have a plan where the hardware

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upgrades every two years

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and the software every two years alternating.

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So you have like a TI-14

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refers to the computer systems

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and the hardware and then you can have an APV.

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TI-14 or you have APB-13 or APB-13 software

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both resident on that

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and it's kind of a continuous upgrade.

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It allows us to keep up with the latest tactics

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and the latest capabilities that the fleet needs

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and we tie that in with our training group

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and they manage to that our trainers are

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up to speed with that.

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Now we don't have a upgrade every submarine that fast

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but we have a plan

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so that no submarine is more than.

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A combat system more than six years old

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and the training and the trainers are there

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for each of the ships but the,

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the basic look, the layout it will stay the same

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so sailors can easily go from one platform to another

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and so this system integrates not only the sonar

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but the combat control system for the weapons

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and our sensors imagery electronic warfare

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and systems like that.

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And so that's what we have done

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to stay ahead of the enemy

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and stay up on the war fighting curve.

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- The benefit from my days as (mumbling)

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getting to your modular upgradable

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is that my same prime.

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Working with Michelle Evans and Lockheed did

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the surface ships sonar business

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and they did the what we call (mumbling)

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but behind the take (mumbling)

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that allowed us to actually commonize and leverage

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algorithms and capabilities from the surface fleet

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as well as submarine fleet and again

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rapidly up the entire game.

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You know a rising tide floats all boats

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and that's (mumbling)

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that's (mumbling) if you can go across the enterprise

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and learn horizontally

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and make it the expectation that you won't go develop

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your own active algorithms

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when you have Arleigh Burke

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with really good active algorithms

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that we would like to use.

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I tell you DDG-51 with an MFTA behind it

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is a real submarine on earth

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and that kind of capability is going into the frigate.

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Again not by accident. Doug?

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- I just want to call out one more point.

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Kind of following up on what George is talking about.

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You know, we are migrating towards where our combat systems

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are really modules of software

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running on commercial (mumbling)

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Are part of the issue we have though is

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we in the acquisition community

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and in industry have got to get the modernization costs

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and durations down to where the fleet can handle it.

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One of the things we're hearing about this whole time is,

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how much we're using our surface ships?

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When we tie up a ship to change out their computer plan

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and it takes over a year and costs way too much.

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That means we don't get to modernize

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and then you don't have the Open Architecture features

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and all that stuff.

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It's not to say that ship is an amazingly lethal

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but to get to the where we need to be

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so that we can capitalize on some of the things like

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we do in SWFTS and in the in the more modern

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Aegis capability upgrades

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and SSDS capability upgrades.

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We have to be able to modernize those ship

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but the cost and the duration have got to come down.

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(mumbling)

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(mumbling)

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(mumbling)

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Did you have anything you want to

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offer from the Coast Guard perspective?

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- From the Coast Guard perspective

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we are in the budget, it's pretty small

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so we tend to stay with state of the market

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which has advantages in terms of commonality

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and in rapid insertion.

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We also pay very close attention to Navy

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and we build a lot of margin to their ships as well.

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As I think most people know

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we have tendency to hold on our ships for a long time

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(mumbling) cutters are 50 years old

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we've got (mumbling) that are over 60

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and they're doing missions

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they were never designed to do initially.

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(mumbling) were weather observation platforms initially

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weather observation platforms initially, right.

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Now with the (mumbling) shelters and things like that.

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And now they're doing

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you know they're going on deployment of the Navy

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and they're doing counter-drug so.

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Key to doing that is make sure you at the margins

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and use that you know, standard systems things like.

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- Thanks, Mike.

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Okay next question.
- Yes, sir.

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(mumbling) ask a question.

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The questions about the FFG(X).

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It looks as a country boy here read that

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you made some really brilliant decisions there too

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to have established holes

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that you can touch and feel as a prerequisite

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for bidding, seems maybe I misread that.

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But it seems could you go into a little bit of

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you know this explain what the benefits of that are,

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why you did it?

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Second question unfortunately multiple here

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is why PEO LCS

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(mumbling)

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and the third one is, I didn't see a lot of

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modularity requirement in that RFP

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and I may have missed that.

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So could you all comment on those three?

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- That would be three questions.

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We'll answer one for sure.

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and then get to next two.

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John go ahead.

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- Okay. So yeah

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can't remember what?

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What was your first question?

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(laughing)
- Sorry.

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- Why, why the benefits of

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basically requiring (mumbling)

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- Right, thank you for that.
- So

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as we looked at.

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As Ron and I and the team

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(mumbling)

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What is the requirements

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required to kind of operate in these contested environments

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with that capability we need to kind of go do that.

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We want to stand with the competitive space

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was to deliver that.

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So we went out last year and say,

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hey, here's our top over requirements.

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Who can who can kind of meet this

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and we got a pretty robust response back.

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So our understanding is that for the certain requirement

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we're looking for.

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There's a good competition out there

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to kind of go after that.

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There is certainly the next phase that,

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hey, we said to your point.

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Hey look, if we use leverage existing halls

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and we understand

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what's required to adapt the Navy requirements

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to those existing hauls

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it reduces some technical and cost risk for us.

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We need to understand that

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and that's really what this next phase about,

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this next 16 months that we work

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hand in hand with the industry partners

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who are participating in the frigate understand.

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Hey, your proven parent design (mumbling)

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what your technical approach

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to meeting our requirement (mumbling)

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What are the mean that curve for cost for,

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for time on both directions.

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There may be any and curve of a capability

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that we didn't perhaps articulate

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but at the marginal cost that capability

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might be something we want to go after.

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And it works the opposite way too.

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If there's something we asked for but boy

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everyone's telling this.

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That is really going to drive cost in this platform.

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We have an option you kind of work those through

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with the team so it's both a government

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and industry informed requirement.

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Really focused on getting that marginal capability

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understand the cost to get that capability.

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(mumbling) ships in numbers.

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Why is a FFG(X) is in a LCS Program?

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I think, we certainly have a lot of experience

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with you know, small service combatants

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over time so we understand

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you know, both the how to build those ships.

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How to build modularity,

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how to leverage those teams of work that effort

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over the last you know 10 years.

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It's roughly the same size.

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It grew out of the LCS program,

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do you remember the original strategy was kind of

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we're go modify LCS's and then

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that would be kind of the FFG(X) or FFG for the future.

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So we've taken all that existing work

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that the program has done all the existing work

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that's come out of things like (mumbling) task force

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and a lot of that nexus is in my PEO.

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We wanted advantage

56:10.797 --> 56:13.250
take advantage of those lessons learned going forward.

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So we can kind of do (mumbling) visually quickly.

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So I think that's why resides in my PEO

56:18.666 --> 56:19.229
we've got the team

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and we were we were close to a Bill's team.

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This is not, it's not a (mumbling like that all the shares

56:24.336 --> 56:26.016
technical resources.

56:26.017 --> 56:28.713
It's a team sport on the ship building

56:28.714 --> 56:31.263
and say, we're all part of that PEO

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part of PEO ships kinda team here is

56:34.185 --> 56:36.935
(mumbling) all the ship building programs.

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And the third question?
- Modularity.

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- Modularity, so there's a couple ways to.

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You know look at modularity.

56:43.907 --> 56:46.599
You know there's in the pure sense when you talk about LCS

56:46.600 --> 56:49.423
we certainly at the interface patrol document

56:49.424 --> 56:51.953
package that come on or off.

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When we look at (mumbling)

56:53.043 --> 56:54.770
we look at things like VLS

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(mumbling) the opportunity

56:56.509 --> 56:59.047
to take advantage of a number of (mumbling)

56:59.048 --> 57:01.209
and weapon systems across the Navy

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and bring those systems into that platform.

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We look at modularity and scalability right.

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so this is some a Doug's systems like the radar

57:08.857 --> 57:10.654
so it's a, it's scalable.

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So now we have this investment in the radar

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be sure that we can now take (mumbling)

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in a smaller form factor

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but leverage that same investment.

57:18.837 --> 57:21.994
Leverage the future lifecycle cost of that particular system

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as we upgrade software,

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as we bring new capabilities.

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You know that get (mumbling)

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That's, that's our approach

57:28.908 --> 57:31.121
and then there is this walk in margin

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that we've built into the ship.

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That's kind of physical modularity

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where you can kind of bring in

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potentially a new system like a laser.

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We would have the power and the capacity to do that.

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So that's how we're approaching on the frigate.

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- Thank you very much.

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- I think, you will see in the future

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and look at how we're going to do.

57:47.275 --> 57:48.663
Future surface combatant

57:48.664 --> 57:50.927
but this industry inform requirement

57:50.928 --> 57:52.835
and the requirements evaluation team approach

57:52.836 --> 57:54.793
that we did with (mumbling) on this team

57:54.794 --> 57:56.508
Is really how we're going to do business.

57:56.509 --> 57:58.210
That's how you get fast.

57:58.211 --> 58:00.286
You have a very experienced team

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with some resident knowledge there.

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They work with the resource sponsor

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and the requirements team to understand.

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Yeah, okay, I want those

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and then you go to industry ask them

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what that does to you and cost achievability.

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Timelines, all that.

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Then you come back and then you go out with

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the actual, "No kidding Request for Proposal."

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Think, that's the way we go fast in this business

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and actually deliver stuff that's affordable

58:23.721 --> 58:25.792
and actually meets the real demand signal

58:25.793 --> 58:28.631
because we thought about that when we put it in

58:28.632 --> 58:30.392
and one of the things we thought very hard about

58:30.393 --> 58:32.363
was having the (mumbling) the modularity

58:32.364 --> 58:35.274
in the up capacity in something as small.

58:35.275 --> 58:37.024
Frigates are probably one of the hardest things

58:37.025 --> 58:39.324
for us to design because they're little.

58:39.325 --> 58:40.801
And the bigger they get

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we just know where that equation goes.

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So it is the way it goes

58:44.919 --> 58:47.498
I've never seen a better coupling between (mumbling)

58:47.499 --> 58:48.923
and Ron and his team

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and John and his team.

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Bill can say the same thing

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with when we did the (mumbling)

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it worked on the (mumbling) requirements team

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and look at how we're going to actually affordably

58:57.213 --> 58:59.228
use the capabilities the Navy has invested

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(mumbling)

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It really is a way of doing business

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that I think (mumbling)

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and it will definitely influence

59:07.427 --> 59:09.405
how we approach the future surface combatants.

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So great question.

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Okay, Sidney, I looks like we have the.

59:14.007 --> 59:16.391
Press side here with Lee and Sydney over here

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but far away.

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(mumbling)

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- Megan snuck in there, okay, good.

59:22.780 --> 59:25.711
(mumbling) for the record

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A question that probably started (mumbling)

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but may.

59:29.982 --> 59:32.429
In fact the rest of the board as well.

59:32.430 --> 59:33.640
(mumbling)

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putting you know, offensive anti ship capability

59:36.815 --> 59:39.142
on vessels that may not have had before.

59:39.143 --> 59:42.214
In the LCS world (mumbling) missile

59:42.215 --> 59:43.315
which will go on.

59:43.316 --> 59:46.247
I'm not sure exactly which of the current LCS get it

59:46.248 --> 59:47.913
but at least some of them

59:47.914 --> 59:51.963
perhaps more will be retrofitted and it will go on

59:51.964 --> 59:54.141
frigate along with the VLS

59:54.142 --> 59:57.298
which could you know, handle all sorts of things.

59:57.299 --> 01:00:00.864
(mumbling)

01:00:00.865 --> 01:00:03.791
We have, you know talk about putting a offensive of missiles

01:00:03.792 --> 01:00:05.366
on amphibious

01:00:05.367 --> 01:00:08.712
in the large (mumbling) surface world

01:00:08.713 --> 01:00:10.477
and of course a lot of the networking

01:00:10.478 --> 01:00:11.779
to make this all actually get

01:00:11.780 --> 01:00:14.581
you know targets comes out of (mumbling)

01:00:14.582 --> 01:00:16.281
So how are people making,

01:00:16.282 --> 01:00:20.508
you know actually getting stuff on ships to shoot

01:00:20.509 --> 01:00:23.124
in the near term?

01:00:23.125 --> 01:00:25.987
- Who wants start with that Doug or Bill?

01:00:25.988 --> 01:00:27.687
Oh, John, all right go for it.

01:00:27.688 --> 01:00:30.105
- So we're working very closely

01:00:30.106 --> 01:00:32.301
I'd (mumbling) get the right capability

01:00:32.302 --> 01:00:34.247
on LCS and on frigate.

01:00:34.248 --> 01:00:36.660
So Doug's team is evaluating proposals

01:00:36.661 --> 01:00:38.324
to bring that capability based on

01:00:38.325 --> 01:00:40.601
the requirements that we work with Ron.

01:00:40.602 --> 01:00:42.299
So I think we're very close there.

01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:44.733
We're (mumbling) we've built in.

01:00:44.734 --> 01:00:46.654
The LCS kind of a swap

01:00:46.655 --> 01:00:49.857
we know it goes, we know we can get down there quickly.

01:00:49.858 --> 01:00:51.784
The same missile it'll go on LCS

01:00:51.785 --> 01:00:54.220
will go on frigate, so there's (mumbling) across

01:00:54.221 --> 01:00:58.348
you know that the small surface combatant portfolio.

01:00:58.349 --> 01:01:01.121
So we're, we are primed and ready to kind of go

01:01:01.122 --> 01:01:02.520
execute that quickly

01:01:02.521 --> 01:01:04.206
and Doug's team is kind of working through

01:01:04.207 --> 01:01:05.831
the competition piece of it.

01:01:05.832 --> 01:01:07.378
To get those.

01:01:10.330 --> 01:01:13.515
- No, I just say (mumbling)

01:01:13.516 --> 01:01:14.632
(mumbling)

01:01:14.633 --> 01:01:15.942
It really is about you know

01:01:15.943 --> 01:01:17.814
getting that over the horizon capability

01:01:17.815 --> 01:01:19.710
you know and kind of being back on the modularity

01:01:19.711 --> 01:01:21.841
right we can put that on anything.

01:01:21.842 --> 01:01:25.740
And it'll bring a great over the horizon.

01:01:25.741 --> 01:01:27.756
(mumbling)

01:01:27.757 --> 01:01:29.729
But beyond that we're also you know

01:01:29.730 --> 01:01:32.019
I go back to sort of the (mumbling)

01:01:32.020 --> 01:01:34.297
(mumbling)

01:01:34.298 --> 01:01:35.856
you know kind of capitalizing

01:01:35.857 --> 01:01:38.347
on a (mumbling) grid concept of (mumbling) together

01:01:38.348 --> 01:01:40.176
(mumbling) and weapons

01:01:40.177 --> 01:01:43.784
rapidly expanding our capability across the Navy.

01:01:43.785 --> 01:01:45.621
Not just surface navy bur also

01:01:45.622 --> 01:01:49.210
you know working with (mumbling)

01:01:49.211 --> 01:01:50.451
(mumbling)

01:01:50.452 --> 01:01:52.882
(mumbling)

01:01:52.883 --> 01:01:54.484
So that the missile is only a part of it, right.

01:01:54.485 --> 01:01:56.864
So it's the whole kill changed if you look at

01:01:56.865 --> 01:01:58.375
what's required to.

01:01:58.376 --> 01:02:00.267
How do you want to (mumbling) engagement

01:02:00.268 --> 01:02:03.041
over the horizon and making sure that you have

01:02:03.042 --> 01:02:04.852
you know whole end to end capability

01:02:04.853 --> 01:02:06.155
so whether you're getting that

01:02:06.156 --> 01:02:07.754
through some (mumbling) capabilities

01:02:07.755 --> 01:02:09.177
using radar capability.

01:02:09.178 --> 01:02:11.476
Those are all the things that we're pulling in

01:02:11.477 --> 01:02:14.562
as part of delivering a (mumbling) capability

01:02:14.563 --> 01:02:15.852
for the over the horizon.

01:02:15.853 --> 01:02:18.078
It's not just the missile, it's those other pieces

01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:19.463
that allows you to do the targeting,

01:02:19.464 --> 01:02:22.489
allows you to do the target discrimination.

01:02:22.490 --> 01:02:23.902
So we're looking at holistically

01:02:23.903 --> 01:02:26.781
to make sure we've got that right.

01:02:26.782 --> 01:02:28.715
(mumbling)

01:02:28.716 --> 01:02:31.473
(mumbling)

01:02:31.474 --> 01:02:33.727
(mumbling)

01:02:33.728 --> 01:02:35.991
(mumbling)

01:02:35.992 --> 01:02:38.163
- Yes, so we're working.

01:02:38.164 --> 01:02:40.197
You know we're working through the budget process

01:02:40.198 --> 01:02:41.306
to understand to back that plan

01:02:41.307 --> 01:02:43.197
but there's certainly a desire to try to get this

01:02:43.198 --> 01:02:45.353
capability out there at quickly.

01:02:45.354 --> 01:02:46.685
- It'll compete with everything else

01:02:46.686 --> 01:02:48.566
that we're trying to fit in our capability

01:02:48.567 --> 01:02:50.064
that going forward.

01:02:50.065 --> 01:02:51.754
But it is definitely (mumbling)

01:02:51.755 --> 01:02:53.857
it's a it's a very front center

01:02:53.858 --> 01:02:55.133
element of discussion.

01:02:55.134 --> 01:02:56.720
Okay, Megan.

01:02:56.721 --> 01:02:57.761
- Hi, Meghan Eckstein

01:02:57.762 --> 01:02:59.506
US Naval Institute news.

01:02:59.507 --> 01:03:01.419
I actually want to ask about distributors

01:03:01.420 --> 01:03:03.135
with all the from a different perspective.

01:03:03.136 --> 01:03:05.978
We hear from the operators that ships are going to be

01:03:05.979 --> 01:03:07.946
disaggregated, they need to be more lethal.

01:03:07.947 --> 01:03:10.262
They'll have to fight to get to the fight

01:03:10.263 --> 01:03:12.017
and we've heard a lot about you know

01:03:12.018 --> 01:03:14.661
standard missile six in surface mode.

01:03:14.662 --> 01:03:16.377
Tomahawk maritime strike.

01:03:16.378 --> 01:03:18.067
But on the actual ship side

01:03:18.068 --> 01:03:21.034
what to the ships needs to succeed in that environment

01:03:21.035 --> 01:03:23.629
and as the resource sponsors look

01:03:23.630 --> 01:03:25.339
at upgrade plans going forward.

01:03:25.340 --> 01:03:27.147
What kind of capabilities are you looking

01:03:27.148 --> 01:03:29.531
at for the actual ships to succeed in

01:03:29.532 --> 01:03:32.659
you know that higher end environment?

01:03:32.660 --> 01:03:34.636
- Do you want to start Doug?

01:03:34.637 --> 01:03:36.779
Since she plug on all the ships.

01:03:36.780 --> 01:03:37.691
(mumbling)

01:03:37.692 --> 01:03:39.578
This is the nature of the question seem to be

01:03:39.579 --> 01:03:40.962
because we're bringing all these weapons

01:03:40.963 --> 01:03:44.767
what do we doing on ships side for

01:03:44.768 --> 01:03:46.739
I mean, I'd say you know a lot of you know

01:03:46.740 --> 01:03:49.595
so that the contested environment really is

01:03:49.596 --> 01:03:51.375
what we're talking so

01:03:51.376 --> 01:03:52.912
you know improvements across the board

01:03:52.913 --> 01:03:54.982
and certainly in sensing.

01:03:54.983 --> 01:03:57.792
In combat management and in weapons

01:03:57.793 --> 01:04:00.009
across the board improvements.

01:04:00.010 --> 01:04:02.995
Specifically to handle congested environments

01:04:02.996 --> 01:04:06.759
and specifically to rapidly expand

01:04:06.760 --> 01:04:09.990
the capability and range across different threats

01:04:09.991 --> 01:04:11.623
the whole works.

01:04:11.624 --> 01:04:16.271
Ss far as and kind of going back to the first question.

01:04:16.272 --> 01:04:18.702
We have to be bring these capabilities in,

01:04:18.703 --> 01:04:21.021
we are bringing these capabilities with the mindset

01:04:21.022 --> 01:04:23.570
that we don't need to upgrade the ships

01:04:23.571 --> 01:04:24.873
that they're going on right.

01:04:24.874 --> 01:04:26.678
If we have to you know,

01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:28.361
gets back to the modernization question.

01:04:28.362 --> 01:04:30.492
If I have to tie up a ship for a year

01:04:30.493 --> 01:04:32.852
to put in over the horizon missile capability on it.

01:04:32.853 --> 01:04:36.746
It's not, it's not a good mix

01:04:36.747 --> 01:04:40.322
so we have to be able to bring those kinds of capabilities

01:04:40.323 --> 01:04:42.380
very quickly, get them on the ships

01:04:42.381 --> 01:04:45.320
and give the ships back out.

01:04:45.321 --> 01:04:47.318
(chattering)

01:04:47.319 --> 01:04:51.139
(mumbling)

01:04:51.140 --> 01:04:53.444
(mumbling)

01:04:53.445 --> 01:04:56.833
(mumbling)

01:04:56.834 --> 01:04:59.628
on the west coast during an exercise out there right.

01:04:59.629 --> 01:05:01.551
So those type of things where you know,

01:05:01.552 --> 01:05:03.690
it's not maybe fully integrated into the ship

01:05:03.691 --> 01:05:05.580
but it's a real good lesson,

01:05:05.581 --> 01:05:07.190
real good learning opportunity for us

01:05:07.191 --> 01:05:09.164
to bring a capability on board a ship.

01:05:09.165 --> 01:05:11.263
Demonstrated you know with the operators

01:05:11.264 --> 01:05:13.210
that are going to eventually use it.

01:05:13.211 --> 01:05:14.314
Take those lessons learned

01:05:14.315 --> 01:05:15.634
and then evolve it from there

01:05:15.635 --> 01:05:17.858
you know if you want to go you can pursue that further so.

01:05:17.859 --> 01:05:20.650
- All right, thank you. Lee?

01:05:20.651 --> 01:05:22.968
- We have (mumbling) defense

01:05:22.969 --> 01:05:24.437
I have costs questions

01:05:24.438 --> 01:05:26.370
so there's been a lot of talk at the conference

01:05:26.371 --> 01:05:28.845
about the following cost for the for frigate

01:05:28.846 --> 01:05:30.313
for ship 220.

01:05:30.314 --> 01:05:34.199
Could you give us the cost estimate for the lead ship?

01:05:34.200 --> 01:05:35.265
(mumbling)

01:05:35.266 --> 01:05:37.229
- So we're working through cost releases

01:05:37.230 --> 01:05:38.737
(mumbling)

01:05:38.738 --> 01:05:41.041
we got to come through the concept design phase

01:05:41.042 --> 01:05:44.078
to understand what that is.

01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.525
So we're working through what that with the lead ship

01:05:46.526 --> 01:05:48.316
costs will be based on

01:05:48.317 --> 01:05:50.026
how come of this kind of next phase.

01:05:50.027 --> 01:05:52.775
- When you anticipate to have that?

01:05:52.776 --> 01:05:54.369
- I think, it's going to take us some runtime

01:05:54.370 --> 01:05:55.726
to kind of look at you know,

01:05:55.727 --> 01:05:57.484
go through this is a conceptual design phase,

01:05:57.485 --> 01:05:59.765
understand it will have a certainly a number in the budget

01:05:59.766 --> 01:06:02.053
that reflects our current estimates

01:06:02.054 --> 01:06:03.653
but that's a work in progress

01:06:03.654 --> 01:06:08.183
as we learn more about the ships that are out there.

01:06:08.184 --> 01:06:09.666
That are competitive base

01:06:09.667 --> 01:06:11.828
that's going to compete for that kind of capability

01:06:11.829 --> 01:06:14.092
and there's a lot of factors coming (mumbling)

01:06:14.093 --> 01:06:15.230
you know who's going to build it

01:06:15.231 --> 01:06:17.282
with how much are the shipyard?

01:06:17.283 --> 01:06:18.857
How much tooling has to be required

01:06:18.858 --> 01:06:20.758
so we'll make an informed decision.

01:06:20.759 --> 01:06:23.973
(mumbling) in the industry to kind understand that.

01:06:23.974 --> 01:06:26.234
That's (mumbling) why we laid out the strategy

01:06:26.235 --> 01:06:29.218
the way we did to engage industry early on this

01:06:29.219 --> 01:06:31.474
and so we can kind of get that kind of insight

01:06:31.475 --> 01:06:33.518
upfront you know, long before we have to go

01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:36.721
and start you know building the ship.

01:06:36.722 --> 01:06:37.957
- All right.

01:06:37.958 --> 01:06:38.680
Yes, sir.

01:06:38.681 --> 01:06:39.610
- [Chris] Good morning, Chris (mumbling)

01:06:39.611 --> 01:06:41.381
Dealt resources.

01:06:41.382 --> 01:06:44.832
Earlier this morning admiral Davidson.

01:06:44.833 --> 01:06:46.904
Provided a very, very thorough presentation

01:06:46.905 --> 01:06:49.739
on the comprehensive review associated with

01:06:49.740 --> 01:06:51.675
surface navy mishaps last year.

01:06:51.676 --> 01:06:53.782
He talked about the genesis of the review,

01:06:53.783 --> 01:06:54.915
the approach to the review

01:06:54.916 --> 01:06:56.904
and some of the findings.

01:06:56.905 --> 01:07:00.211
Which focused on institutional training and processes

01:07:00.212 --> 01:07:00.978
and things like that.

01:07:00.979 --> 01:07:03.120
But he also touched on some engineering issues.

01:07:03.121 --> 01:07:04.189
Some good, some bad.

01:07:04.190 --> 01:07:06.956
For instance, he gave a shout out to

01:07:06.957 --> 01:07:09.685
design and configuration (mumbling)

01:07:09.686 --> 01:07:14.222
but offered some criticism of (mumbling) design.

01:07:14.223 --> 01:07:16.244
Attributing that to what he characterized

01:07:16.245 --> 01:07:18.262
as a lack of collaboration between engineers

01:07:18.263 --> 01:07:20.202
and operators can you

01:07:20.203 --> 01:07:22.420
provide some comments on

01:07:22.421 --> 01:07:23.509
some of the lessons learned

01:07:23.510 --> 01:07:25.071
that may have already been applied

01:07:25.072 --> 01:07:27.856
well prior to last year's events

01:07:27.857 --> 01:07:30.402
and some of the things going forward to address that?

01:07:30.403 --> 01:07:31.230
- You wanna start Bill?

01:07:31.231 --> 01:07:32.386
(mumbling)

01:07:32.387 --> 01:07:34.239
(mumbling) great question.

01:07:34.240 --> 01:07:36.402
and I think one of the things that

01:07:36.403 --> 01:07:38.894
across the design of the acquisition community

01:07:38.895 --> 01:07:40.714
we're looking at work

01:07:40.715 --> 01:07:43.748
again with Doug's team (mumbling)

01:07:43.749 --> 01:07:46.309
is you know who is the

01:07:46.310 --> 01:07:47.757
you know the single organization

01:07:47.758 --> 01:07:49.666
(mumbling)

01:07:49.667 --> 01:07:51.055
(mumbling)

01:07:51.056 --> 01:07:53.735
and bringing all the the functionality

01:07:53.736 --> 01:07:57.146
that takes place you know the different functions

01:07:57.147 --> 01:07:59.094
and missions to take place really on a bridge

01:07:59.095 --> 01:08:00.880
and how is that all brought together

01:08:00.881 --> 01:08:02.983
and you know I think what we found is

01:08:02.984 --> 01:08:05.919
part of this is it's not it's certainly not as tight

01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:08.241
as what we do in combat

01:08:08.242 --> 01:08:11.841
and you know, I think the 51 is clearly probably

01:08:11.842 --> 01:08:15.115
you know the the, is a real good example

01:08:15.116 --> 01:08:15.706
of how we do that

01:08:15.707 --> 01:08:19.005
but I think we do it well another ship classes also

01:08:19.006 --> 01:08:21.563
but I think what we're finding is

01:08:21.564 --> 01:08:24.078
we don't have that process dialed in

01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.201
as tight as we need to on the bridge

01:08:26.202 --> 01:08:27.092
and that's one of the things

01:08:27.093 --> 01:08:28.444
that we're working through right now

01:08:28.445 --> 01:08:32.120
to kind of put that construct in place.

01:08:32.121 --> 01:08:35.124
Not only the organization and who would essentially be

01:08:35.125 --> 01:08:37.692
you know the tech (mumbling) for the bridge if you will.

01:08:37.693 --> 01:08:39.814
But also the processes that a (mumbling)

01:08:39.815 --> 01:08:42.403
all those different functions together.

01:08:42.404 --> 01:08:44.363
- Anything else, Doug?

01:08:44.364 --> 01:08:46.410
- No, I just double (mumbling)

01:08:46.411 --> 01:08:50.320
I mean we, you know we do a lot of work in CIC

01:08:50.321 --> 01:08:52.883
to you know manage our configuration

01:08:52.884 --> 01:08:54.279
very tightly for a purpose

01:08:54.280 --> 01:08:56.504
and we need to take that same approach

01:08:56.505 --> 01:08:58.630
to bridge systems period.

01:08:58.631 --> 01:09:02.165
And like those are about (mumbling) and navigation

01:09:02.166 --> 01:09:03.807
is one of the functions that happens on the bridge

01:09:03.808 --> 01:09:04.979
or the whole lot of other ones.

01:09:04.980 --> 01:09:08.506
So we need to do we have experience working across

01:09:08.507 --> 01:09:11.499
the (mumbling) across systems commands

01:09:11.500 --> 01:09:13.183
to bring together an integrated package

01:09:13.184 --> 01:09:16.894
and I think, that's what we need to bring to the bridge.

01:09:16.895 --> 01:09:17.766
- All right, great question.

01:09:17.767 --> 01:09:18.605
Last one (mumbling)

01:09:18.606 --> 01:09:20.974
as we're like two minutes from done.

01:09:20.975 --> 01:09:22.912
- So the big thing that's missing

01:09:22.913 --> 01:09:27.744
from the FFG(X) is a sonar (mumbling)

01:09:27.745 --> 01:09:30.742
Can you explain what the plan is there for

01:09:30.743 --> 01:09:34.054
(mumbling) sensor capability on the FFG(X)

01:09:34.055 --> 01:09:36.481
and what we're doing to increase the (mumbling) of the ship

01:09:36.482 --> 01:09:39.259
and in the (mumbling)

01:09:39.260 --> 01:09:40.300
- A great question, Mike.

01:09:40.301 --> 01:09:42.693
So you know, so that part of

01:09:42.694 --> 01:09:45.182
our strategy is to leverage a (mumbling) investment

01:09:45.183 --> 01:09:47.762
(mumbling)

01:09:47.763 --> 01:09:50.796
Sonar system is the (mumbling) mission package, right.

01:09:50.797 --> 01:09:52.760
So as you're very familiar with

01:09:52.761 --> 01:09:54.116
you know (mumbling) sonar

01:09:54.117 --> 01:09:55.982
active continue source

01:09:55.983 --> 01:09:59.771
as a tremendous ranges

01:09:59.772 --> 01:10:01.282
in that particular configuration

01:10:01.283 --> 01:10:02.868
rise a lot of capability for the ship

01:10:02.869 --> 01:10:04.631
and it's leveraging investment

01:10:04.632 --> 01:10:06.989
that we've already made.

01:10:06.990 --> 01:10:09.498
So I think in terms of how you reach out

01:10:09.499 --> 01:10:11.987
and touch of potential contact.

01:10:11.988 --> 01:10:14.576
You certainly have airborne capability with

01:10:14.577 --> 01:10:16.573
helicopters kind of go out and deliver

01:10:16.574 --> 01:10:19.074
(mumbling)

01:10:19.075 --> 01:10:20.358
and you'll have VLS.

01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:23.141
So you could potentially deliver you know the VLA.

01:10:23.142 --> 01:10:26.498
So you have the whole kind end to end kill chain with that

01:10:26.499 --> 01:10:28.690
(mumbling) tech at range

01:10:28.691 --> 01:10:30.326
with a variable that sonar

01:10:30.327 --> 01:10:32.278
and the multifunction (mumbling)

01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:33.991
(mumbling) prosecute that

01:10:33.992 --> 01:10:36.852
particular contact with either organic weapon

01:10:36.853 --> 01:10:39.918
as part of the VLS or the helicopter.

01:10:39.919 --> 01:10:42.181
(mumbling)

01:10:47.774 --> 01:10:50.390
Yeah, so as we as we look go through this phase

01:10:50.391 --> 01:10:53.018
where we're looking at cost and capability trades

01:10:53.019 --> 01:10:55.291
If there is a (mumbling) design that has a

01:10:55.292 --> 01:10:58.178
a particular capability will assess if that

01:10:58.179 --> 01:11:00.995
as something that we would consider keeping or not.

01:11:00.996 --> 01:11:01.952
I think, that's

01:11:01.953 --> 01:11:03.728
that could be potentially be in the (mumbling)

01:11:03.729 --> 01:11:05.688
but our programmer record is

01:11:05.689 --> 01:11:09.323
is the system that's going on LCS.

01:11:09.324 --> 01:11:10.366
- All right, thank you.

01:11:10.367 --> 01:11:12.066
Those were, those are great questions.

01:11:12.067 --> 01:11:14.537
What I would like to do is you obviously

01:11:14.538 --> 01:11:17.004
have seen I have a superb team up here

01:11:17.005 --> 01:11:18.858
and Mike over in the Coast Guard

01:11:18.859 --> 01:11:20.473
doing your shaping.

01:11:20.474 --> 01:11:22.549
Doing the shaping with industry of our Navy

01:11:22.550 --> 01:11:25.045
and our Coast Guard's future.

01:11:25.046 --> 01:11:26.604
And there really are three pieces

01:11:26.605 --> 01:11:27.909
and there involved with all of it.

01:11:27.910 --> 01:11:29.983
Not just delivering ships out of new construction

01:11:29.984 --> 01:11:31.545
but delivering ships that are sustainable

01:11:31.546 --> 01:11:33.752
and modernizable.

01:11:33.753 --> 01:11:36.819
And this afternoon will have the other end of that panel

01:11:36.820 --> 01:11:38.361
all of the folks who are actually charged

01:11:38.362 --> 01:11:40.753
with (mumbling)

01:11:40.754 --> 01:11:42.079
the maintenance so,

01:11:42.080 --> 01:11:44.128
I'd like you all to please give this panel a hand

01:11:44.129 --> 01:11:45.361
and thank you.

01:11:45.362 --> 01:11:47.578
(applauding)

01:11:51.870 --> 01:11:53.104
- Excellent.

01:11:53.105 --> 01:11:54.591
That was really.

01:11:54.592 --> 01:11:55.847
That's wonderful, thank you so much.