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- Good morning, everyone.

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Today we're joined by Colonel Ryan Dillon.

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Colonel Dillon is the spokesman

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for Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve

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and he comes to us from Baghdad, Iraq.

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Before we get started,

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we'll quickly check our communications.

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Colonel Dillon, how do you hear us?

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- Adrian, I hear you very well.

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How about me?

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- Sir, we hear you very well.

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If you have any opening words for us,

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please take it away.

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- Certainly, okay.

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Good morning, everyone.

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I'll first discuss the overall campaign

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and then focus in on Syria and Iraq.

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Today marks the third anniversary

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of the start of our mission

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as Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve.

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In these last three years,

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our multinational coalition has made great progress

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against the ISIS terrorist organization

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and their self-declared caliphate.

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Now in ISIS' so-called capital in Raqqa,

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we see the terrorist group on the verge

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of a devastating defeat at the hands

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of our Syrian Democratic Force partners.

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And more on those details in a moment.

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But let me first review why this moment

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on the verge of the liberation of Raqqa is so momentous.

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In 2014, ISIS held as much as 104,000 square kilometers,

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including major cities in Iraq,

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forcing their fanatical views on their captive populations.

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At the time they operated with impunity

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and stunned the civilized world

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by televising torture, mass executions

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and other unspeakable crimes against humanity.

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From the territories they held,

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ISIS became a global threat

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as they planned, funded and inspired

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terrorist attacks around the world.

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The world responded.

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We organized a global coalition

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which has grown to 69 nations

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and four international organizations.

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And Operation Inherent Resolve was established

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to defeat ISIS by, with and through

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our capable partner forces on the ground in Iraq and Syria.

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In the ensuing three years of fighting,

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we halted ISIS' advance and have beaten them back

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on all fronts.

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Our partners have removed ISIS

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from 87% of territory they once held,

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liberating more than 6.5 million people.

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And this July with coalition support,

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our Iraqi Security Force partners

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achieved a hard-fought victory liberating Mosul,

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the largest city ISIS has held.

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Overall, ISIS is losing in every way.

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We've devastated their networks,

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targeted and eliminated their leaders at all levels.

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We've degraded their ability to finance their operations,

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cutting oil revenues by 90%.

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Their flow of foreign recruits has gone

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from about 1,500 fighters a month

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down to near zero today.

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Their story of leading a holy cause has proved

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to be a cesspool of brutal lies, torture and oppression.

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ISIS in Iraq and Syria are all but isolated

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in their quickly-shrinking territory.

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Today in Syria, ISIS is losing its grip.

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After more than four months of operations,

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Raqqa is more than 90% cleared.

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We are aware of the reports

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that ISIS has been defeated in Raqqa.

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However, clearance operations continue,

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and we expect our Syrian Democratic Force partners

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to hit pockets of resistance

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as the final parts of the city is cleared.

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Over the past 96 hours, we have seen

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about 1,300 civilians assisted to safety by the SDF,

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and just about 3,000 civilians rescued in the last week.

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In the last few days, about 350 fighters

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surrendered to the SDF in Raqqa,

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with several confirmed foreign fighters

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taken into custody after SDF screening.

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After ensuring the safety of the civilians,

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clearance of the remaining portion

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of the city center has accelerated.

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The SDF have moved on the national hospital complex

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and the soccer stadium.

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The SDF also fully cleared the Al-Naim Traffic Circle,

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once an ISIS symbol of fear and terror,

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where they held public executions.

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In Raqqa and elsewhere across Syria,

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our focus remains on reducing risk to civilians,

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while continuing to pursue

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and defeat ISIS terrorists at every opportunity

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as they retreat into the remaining held areas

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in the Middle Euphrates River Valley.

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Meanwhile in Iraq, coalition forces remain focused

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on supporting the Iraqi Security Force offensive

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against ISIS holdouts in Rawa and Al-Qa'im

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in western Anbar province.

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In the past week, the coalition

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has conducted more than 30 strikes

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against ISIS military targets in the area,

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including command-and-control facilities,

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car bomb factories, weapons caches and a training camp.

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Back-clearance operations are ongoing

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in areas already recently freed from ISIS.

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In the Tal Afar area, since the beginning of this month,

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the ISF have found and removed large caches of weapons

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and explosives left behind by ISIS.

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These caches contain a total of

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550 improvised explosive devices,

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1,800 mortars, 25 land mines,

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101 suicide vests, 16 tunnels

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and 11 factories for making IEDs.

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Regarding the tensions in Kirkuk,

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aside from the incident from early morning hours

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on 16 October south of Kirkuk

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that we assess as a miscommunication

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between Iraqi Security Forces and a Kurdish checkpoint,

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there have been no further reports

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of armed conflict or contact between the two groups.

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We continue to monitor the situation,

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and our leaders, talking with counterparts

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in both the Iraqi Security Forces

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and the Peshmerga, urged all sides to avoid escalation.

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These tensions distract from our unified fight against ISIS

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which remains a very real threat here in Iraq.

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And with that, I'll now take your questions.

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- Bob Burns, A.P.

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- Thank you, Colonel Dillon,

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a couple questions on

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how many ISIS fighters do you estimate

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are left in both Syria and Iraq?

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And with regard to the recent developments in Raqqa,

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is he still hearing me?

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Oh, okay.

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With regard to Raqqa,

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so you describe ISIS as being on the verge of defeat.

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What happens next, both in Raqqa

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and more broadly in Syria,

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as far as the U.S. military role goes?

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- Okay thanks, sir.

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So first off,

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across the board in the combined joint operations area,

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so in both Iraq and in Syria,

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we estimate the number of enemy forces

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that still remain to be about 6,500

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enemy forces, ISIS forces.

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Specifically in Raqqa,

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with the number of those that have recently surrendered,

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we estimate there to be perhaps about 100 ISIS fighters

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that could remain in Raqqa.

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We have not seen much or heard of much reports

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of contact since the SDF resumed their advance

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into the city after the civilians came out.

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But we still expect there to be remnants

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of ISIS in the city,

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and we expect there to be pockets of ISIS fighters there.

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As far as what happens in Raqqa

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after ISIS has been cleared and Raqqa is liberated,

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the Raqqa Civil Council is already established,

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and they're already eager to begin work

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to restore essential services.

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But also a very important note is that you must,

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we must clear the remnants of all the explosives

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that have been left in Raqqa throughout this battle.

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One of the SDF commanders earlier in the campaign,

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maybe a month ago, said that the fight in Raqqa

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is more about a fight against IEDs and explosives

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than it is against ISIS,

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because that's what the nature of the fight normally was.

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And in a

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just to really highlight that,

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the Raqqa Internal Security Force commander

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who is in charge of securing Raqqa after the liberation,

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unfortunately and sadly was killed yesterday

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when he was walking through Raqqa and triggered an IED

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and he had two of his colleagues that were with him.

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So that goes to show the work that must go into,

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first off, clearing all of these explosives

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and booby traps and mines

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that have been left behind by ISIS.

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And the Raqqa Civil Council is also trying to

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let people know this.

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In the course of the last month,

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we know that there have also been about 10 families,

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while trying to go back to their homes,

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have also triggered these mines and these explosives.

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So that is the very real threat that is

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what needs to happen first before the civil council

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comes in and restores essential services of

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electricity, water, sewage, et cetera.

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I hope that answers your question, I was pretty long.

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- Thanks, just a quick follow-up.

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I was thinking more in terms of what you foresee

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as the U.S. military's role going forward

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once Raqqa has been fully liberated.

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Will the U.S. continue to train and operate

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with local forces in that area

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or elsewhere in Syria indefinitely?

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Or what's the plan?

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- Well I think, you know,

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I'm certainly not going to say indefinitely.

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There still is fighting that is left to be done

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in the Middle Euphrates River Valley.

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As you know the SDF have made an advance

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and are on the east side of the Euphrates River

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about parallel with the city of Deir ez-Zor.

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And you know, once Raqqa is complete,

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it will be up to, this is part of

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the "by, with and through" strategy,

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it will be up to the commander, General Mazlum,

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whether or not he reallocates forces

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to continue to push down

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into the Middle Euphrates River Valley

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where there still is ISIS-held territory.

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So there still is fighting left there,

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but there's also training that continues

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with the Raqqa Internal Security Force.

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Some of that training also includes,

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very, very aptly the counter-IED training

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which is allowing them to help remove

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some of these explosive remnants of war.

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- Next to Tom Bowman, NPR.

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- Hey, Colonel, I wanted to get back to Kirkuk.

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And you said it appears to be a miscommunication,

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but from all indications, it's more than that.

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You have some Peshmerga commanders,

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some political leaders, basically saying

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they're going to continue to fight.

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It could lead to a full-scale war.

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Could you just talk about that?

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- What I can talk about, Tom,

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is what we have seen and the reporting

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that we have received from our counterparts

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in both the Iraqi Security Force

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and through the Kurdish security elements.

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So what we have seen is a peaceful handover

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of areas around Kirkuk and specifically,

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I can talk about the K-1 Air Field.

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We did have troops there

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and what happened was the Counter-Terrorism Service

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showed up and it was a coordinated effort

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between the Iraqi Security Forces

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and the Kurdish Security Forces that were there.

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And they handed over the keys, if you will,

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to that installation and it was the Iraqi Security Forces

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who began to take security of that area again.

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And throughout other areas of Kirkuk,

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we saw the same thing.

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We've seen a lot of rhetoric and we've seen a lot

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of things that have come out of social media

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and in traditional media that we have not seen

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through official reporting.

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So I can tell you what we have received

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through our reporting and through some of

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the capabilities that we have in the area.

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That one incident that I had mentioned

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was in our press release yesterday,

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was the only altercation, armed conflict

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and exchange of fire that we know about

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and that has been reported officially.

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- People have been killed on both sides,

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isn't that right?

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- Ah, you got cut off at the beginning, Tom.

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- People were killed on both sides,

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isn't that correct?

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- I do understand that that is correct.

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As a part of that,

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one particular engagement that did happen.

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- Was it a miscommunication?

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- That was what we again assess as a miscommunication.

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It was a coordinated,

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it was a supposed to be a coordinated movement

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through a checkpoint.

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This happened at about three o'clock in the morning,

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tensions were already high

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and that is how we assess that particular incident,

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what happened there.

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Again and that is the only incident that we know about.

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And you know things have,

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that was 3 o'clock in the morning

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and then throughout the rest of the morning yesterday,

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the Iraqi Security Forces moved into areas

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and peacefully took over some of the areas

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in and around Kirkuk.

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- [Adrian] Mike Goolsby.

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- Thanks Colonel, appreciate you're doing this by the way.

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Just to switch back to the Raqqa campaign,

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I'm hoping you can talk a little bit about

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what it's been like to work

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with the Syrian Democratic Forces,

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what they've been able to effectively do

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in terms of taking back parts of Raqqa,

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what it's been like to work with them.

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And then just to follow-up then on the earlier question

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about them what happens in the aftermath of Raqqa,

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does the SDF essentially act as police then?

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I mean, you said you have a council

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in place that would govern,

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but essentially then the Syrian Democratic Forces

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stay around for the long-term to police the area?

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- Okay.

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So to answer your first question,

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the Syrian Democratic Forces have proven,

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not just in Raqqa, but throughout the campaign

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to defeat ISIS in Syria,

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to be a very effective and capable partner.

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They have proven that by defeating ISIS

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in other places like Manbij and in Tabqa, and now in Raqqa.

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And they have done so also further on down

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in the Deir ez-Zor province.

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They have shown, despite not being a military

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that is a traditional military with armor

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and like the Iraqi Security Forces,

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the one thing that they have been able

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to show is very good leadership.

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And they have also been able to show

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that they are willing and committed to this fight.

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And it has proven that in this Raqqa campaign particularly,

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they have have sacrificed and have lost

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several of their fighters,

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both those who have been killed

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and those who have been wounded,

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to be able to reclaim Raqqa

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and to restore some sort of local governance

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for the local population there.

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One thing I would also like to highlight is that

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while the overall makeup of the Syrian Democratic Forces

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is about 50/50, but more predominately Kurd,

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inside of the SDF ranks

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to defeat ISIS in Raqqa,

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it is predominantly Arab.

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And it was those that are from these areas

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that have not just led, but also participated

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in the final assault into this victory.

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And I think you had another question.

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Can you please ask that again?

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- Just a follow-up, you were talking about

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how the Syrian Democratic Forces

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are going to be working to clear

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those booby traps, the IEDs.

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So then essentially, do they stay in the city

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for the long haul in terms of policing the city?

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- Yeah,

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they do not.

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So that is that commander that I told you,

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unfortunately, who was killed yesterday,

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he is a leader of, right now

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or was a leader of a force called

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the Raqqa Internal Security Force.

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And that is right now made up of about 1,600

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local recruits.

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And they have been trained by coalition forces

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and are the ones who are going to remain in the city

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and provide the security afterwards.

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I would also say that the Syrian Democratic Forces,

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as I alluded to in my previous question,

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is that it's up to General Mazloum,

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who is the commander of the SDF,

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whether or not he reallocates and takes the forces

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that participated in the battle in Raqqa

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and redistributes them and has them

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in the offensive further on down

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the Middle Euphrates River Valley right now,

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in Deir ez-Zor Province.

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- Thank you sir.

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- Next to Kasim Ileri with Anadolu.

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- My questions have been covered, Colonel,

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but I would just make follow-ups.

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At the beginning of the Raqqa operation,

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you said there were 2,500 ISIS fighters in the city,

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and now remain just about 100.

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Can you tell us how many of them

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have been captured by the SDF?

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Do you have an idea about the number

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of those captured fighters?

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And what happened to the rest of them?

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And did they flee from the city,

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or have all of them been killed?

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- Okay, so first off,

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whenever we provide these, the numbers that we have,

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they are estimates and I try to make sure

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that I put that out there.

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But what I would say is that

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particularly in the course of the last week,

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we saw about 350 SDF fighters

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that came out of Raqqa and into SDF lines.

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What we have also seen is, prior to this past week

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and those that have surrendered,

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there were obviously fewer than that.

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But we saw over the course of the last month,

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prior to this event, about four ISIS fighters

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that were either turning themselves in

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or those that were being captured or caught

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by SDF as they tried to escape

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with IDPs going out of Raqqa, excuse me.

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So the others that came out of that 2,500,

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many of them have been killed

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and have been assessed to have been killed

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inside of Raqqa during this battle.

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So what I would come right back at is

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about that 400 number is what we know of recently

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of ISIS fighters that have surrendered.

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We have seen also that prior to these battles

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is that once the area is isolated

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and before offensive operations begin,

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many of the leaders will often high-tail and leave

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and you know, go elsewhere.

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And so we have clearly seen that we have

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been able to strike and go after high-value targets,

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particularly those in the Mayadin and Abu Kamal area.

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Over the course of the last year,

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we're sitting at about 150 high-value targets

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that we've been able to strike.

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And most recently,

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since I've been here in the last five months,

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the majority of those have come from Mayadin.

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- So just to make something clear,

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you have 350 fighters that surrendered last week

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and then during the last month course of,

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before that, also 400 others.

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So it means 750 ISIS fighters have surrendered to SDF.

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Is that correct?

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Or just in total, is it 400?

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- No, no.

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Yeah and if, I'm sorry if that came out that way.

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What I said was in the,

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about a month prior to, leading up to this point,

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there was about four ISIS fighters

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that were turning themselves in

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or being captured about four a week for the last month,

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leading up to this past week when we saw so many.

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So I said about 400 is what we've seen

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over the course of the last month or so.

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I don't have numbers for you on other

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ISIS fighters in Syria that have been captured,

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or those that have surrendered.

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- Another follow-up to Kirkuk.

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You said it's a miscommunication,

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but there are currently Peshmerga elements

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captured or arrested by the Iraqi Security Forces.

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Do you have anything on the Peshmergas

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that have been captured by Iraqi Security Forces?

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- Kasim, I do not.

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That is the first I've heard of that

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and we don't have,

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first off, we don't have advisers and people on the ground

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with the Iraqi Security Force or the Peshmerga elements

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that are in and around Kirkuk right now.

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So most of the stuff that we have received

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is through reporting and through those dialogues

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with our leaders from the Peshmerga

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and the ISF who are either participating

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or those commanders of those units and our leaders.

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- Sir at the back, give your name and affiliation please.

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- Sure, Rebaz Ali from Rudaw.

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Thank you, Colonel.

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I have a question about Kirkuk.

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You said that it was a coordinated movement.

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What was the level of coordination

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from the side of the coalition

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prior to what happened yesterday?

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And my second question is,

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the Peshmerga general command released a statement

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that there was a huge presence of Iranian IRGC elements

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you know with the forces that attacked the Kirkuk area.

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Are you aware of that?

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What is your reaction to that?

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- Okay, so first off as far as coalition on

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you know, we are focused on the fight against ISIS.

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And after the battle in Hawija,

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our advisers that were with the Iraqi Security

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Force elements throughout that part of the battle,

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once that battle was over,

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we started to transition many of the different outposts

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and locations that were established

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to support the operations in Hawija.

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Those were closed and we consolidated

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in some of our larger bases to transition

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to move outwards towards Al-Qa'im and Rawa.

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So we did not have any participation

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with the Iraqi Security Forces as they moved

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into the Kirkuk area over the course of the last few days.

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And as far as the Iranian

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or the IGRC units that you are referring to,

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again through our official reporting

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from those elements that are participating

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and have reestablished security in and around Kirkuk area,

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those are Iraqi Security Force elements,

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like the Counter-Terrorism Service, the federal police,

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and we do not have reports of PMF units

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or the types of units that you had mentioned

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that we have received.

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So, we don't have any reporting or any indications

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that there are units in and around Kirkuk

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of the elements that you've mentioned.

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- Now to Lucas Tomlinson, Fox News.

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- Colonel, top Kurdish officials have said

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that about 200 Peshmerga have been killed

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in the fighting in and around Kirkuk.

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Can you confirm those numbers

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and that homes have been looted and families displaced,

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Kurdish families inside Kirkuk?

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- I cannot.

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We have not received those reporting.

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Again, the only reports that we have received

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that have had any kind of credence is

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the incident that happened south of Kirkuk, Lucas.

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- Who owns Kirkuk ultimately, Colonel?

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- I don't know if that was a question,

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you came in, it was only like a couple of words.

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Can you ask it again, please?

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- Sure, who ultimately owns Kirkuk?

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- I'll let,

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I will let someone from the government of Iraq

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to answer that question for you.

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We're here to fight ISIS

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and I told you we're not participating

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in or with any of the units

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that are in or around Kirkuk right now.

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- And that not taking a side in this conflict

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is in effect taking a side.

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What is your reaction to that?

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- I've already said what we are here for

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and that is to transition

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and look further west towards ISIS.

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That is with the Combined Joint

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Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve,

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the coalition and our mission is

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and that's where we will focus our efforts

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is to defeat ISIS just as we have from the beginning.

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- Finally, there are some photos and video

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of U.S.-sanctioned terrorists taking part

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in the flag-raising of the Iraqi flag

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at the Kirkuk provincial capital.

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What is your reaction to that?

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Because some of these men do have ties to Iran

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and to terrorist groups.

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- Lucas, I don't know.

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I have not seen the photos that you are referring to

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so I can't comment on that.

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- Now to (faint speaking).

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- Hello, Colonel.

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The operation in Kirkuk

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showed revival of the Iraqi Army.

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I wanted to know if, how you would,

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if you consider now the Iraqi Army

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as a legitimate armed forces with

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all the,

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all the skills required?

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And also how many troops the U.S. have trained?

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- Okay, so first off I will say that

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the Iraqi Security Force and the Iraqi Army,

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so I'm not just going to say the Iraqi Army,

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I'm going to include the Counter-Terrorism Service,

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the federal police, because they ultimately

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all have played a part in the defeat of ISIS,

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particularly in Mosul.

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So what I will say is that

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and we have said this before

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and commander of Combined Joint

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Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve

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has said this before himself

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is that first off, Mosul,

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the growing nine-month campaign to defeat ISIS there

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was going to be difficult for any army.

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And it's some of the most difficult combat fighting

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that we've seen in decades.

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So they have come out of that particular battle

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and that fight and we have seen them dominate ISIS

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in places like Tal Afar and Hawija and in western Anbar.

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So I will say and we have said before

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that they are a legitimate and very capable fighting force.

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And some have even said that they are

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one of the premier security forces now in the region.

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As far as your second question about

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number of Iraqi security forces

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that have been trained by the coalition,

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that number sits right now at about 119,000

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and it includes Iraqi army,

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includes Peshmerga,

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it includes counterterrorism service,

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federal police, police, tribal mobilization forces

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and also border guard forces.

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I hope that answers your question.

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If you want to know specifics,

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I can follow up with you after this

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as far as numbers of trained by unit.

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- Yes, because I am interested especially in the army,

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the Iraqi army.

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Thank you.

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- Okay, all right.

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So in the Iraqi army we have trained

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just shy of 44,000 Iraqi army forces.

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- Thank you.

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- Ben Kesling, Wall Street Journal.

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- Hi, Colonel, a quick question about

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some more Kirkuk stuff.

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Has the U.S. discussed in any way

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what trigger would cause it to move away

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from this avowed neutrality and pick a side on things?

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Has there been any discussion as to what might happen

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if Iraqi Security Forces move past disputed territories?

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- Yeah Ben, on something like that,

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I would defer you to the Pentagon and colleagues.

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They're standing right there, closer to you

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on what we would do.

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What I can tell you, as a coalition,

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and what we're doing now is focused on ISIS.

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We're not participating in the,

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in what's going on in and around Kirkuk right now,

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besides engaging in dialogue with our counterparts.

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- [Adrian] And we'll be happy to take

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the question for you.
- Thank you.

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- Next to Nancy Youssef.
- Thank you.

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First, just a point of clarification.

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When you refer referred repeatedly to official reporting

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as sort of the source for information

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to dispute some of the reports that we've seen.

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What constitutes official reporting?

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Is that based exclusively on information

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from the Iraqi Security Forces?

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Is it based on intel?

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Can you give us a sense of what that makes up?

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- Sure, so that's all three of what you had just said.

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So number one, we do have reporting

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from Iraqi Security Forces.

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We do have reporting from, you know

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some of our forces that I had mentioned earlier

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that was in the area.

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We also have reporting that comes

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from Kurdish security officials

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that we are in dialog with.

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And we have other platforms in the area

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and other ways to gather information

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to verify those reports.

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- You said earlier that U.S. forces were not

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with the Iraqi Security Forces or the Pesh in Kirkuk.

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So those U.S. forces are not actually witnessing directly

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the situation in Kirkuk, is that right?

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- That is correct.

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You know we are not,

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we do not have elements on the ground,

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and not U.S., not coalition on the ground

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in or around Kirkuk with any of the units that are nearby.

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- And we had seen reports that Qassem Solimani

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was in Sulaymaniyah and there were suggestions

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that he was directing operations in Kirkuk.

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Is there any evidence from the U.S. perspective

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that in fact was happening?

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And to clarify earlier,

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is your position that PMU are not in Kirkuk at all?

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Are they in they in the rear?

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Can you give us a better sense of

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where PMU positions are vis-a-vis the Iraqi Security Forces?

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- Yes, so we have also seen the open-source reporting

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on that gentleman being in and around Kirkuk,

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but I don't have,

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I can't tell you whether or not that was verified.

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Number two, as far as the Popular

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Mobilization Units in the area,

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we have not seen in and around Kirkuk

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any of these units going in to reestablish security

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and/or inside of Kirkuk itself.

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- No presence at all or are they in the vicinity?

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- Again, what I will say is that units we have not seen.

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And again, we don't have forces on the ground

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and what we have received is that information through

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Iraqi Security Force personnel

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and also from the other collection means

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that I'd already mentioned earlier.

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- Any indication of leaders from some

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of the premier PMUs on the ground in Kirkuk?

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- I don't have a,

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I don't have a clear answer for you on that.

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I can't tell you who and what leaders

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may be in that area.

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So I don't have an answer for you on that.

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- In Sinjar, we've seen reports that

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Kurdish forces have moved out of there as well.

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Can you give us the U.S. assessment

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of what is happening in Sinjar right now?

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- I cannot.

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I came in with some information about Kirkuk.

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And again, we do not have forces

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that are up in or around Sinjar area either.

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And I don't have an answer for you on

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the presence of any forces in or around Sinjar.

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- We go to Jack Detsch with Al-Monitor.

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- Thank you, Colonel.

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With ISIS on the back foot in Raqqa,

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has Russia or Syria indicated to the coalition

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how long they'd be willing to accept

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the U.S. presence potentially in the country

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or whether they'd allow U.S. troops

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to stay in the region indefinitely

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without offering resistance?

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- We certainly have not received anything

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from our Russian counterparts

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through the deconfliction line.

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And I don't think that that would be a discussion

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that would happen between the coalition

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and those elements.

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It would probably be risen at higher levels.

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So I hope that,

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I mean, I know that doesn't answer your question,

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but that's not something I can say

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from the coalition's perspective.

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- Understood.

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And you said sort of, the continuance

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of counter-ISIS operations through the MERV

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might be dependent on the SDF buy-in.

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So does that mean the U.S, would be prepared

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to support operations all the way to the Iraqi border

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if the SDF desires that?

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- So, I guess what I had said is that the SDF will,

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they have been our partners

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and I think there is a desire on their part.

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And there are those fighters

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and folks from with inside of the SDF who are from areas

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further down in the Middle Euphrates River Valley.

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So you know, that is yet to be seen.

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Again, that's a commander's decision.

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On the ground, in our strategy of by, with and through

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allows that commander on the ground to make those decisions.

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So I will say that we must wait and see as things develop.

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And we'll see how far down into the MERV

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we'll be able to go to pursue ISIS there.

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(faint speaking)

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- Hey, Colonel.

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After the referendum a couple weeks ago,

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you had talked about it could be a distraction

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in the ISIS fight.

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These tensions in Kirkuk,

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what kind of distraction might they be?

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And have they taken anything away militarily

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from operations in western Anbar?

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- So as I had answered previously,

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you know clearly at levels that have to,

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that have to do with the planning

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and looking forward to the defeat of ISIS,

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that it certainly has been distracted.

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The other thing is that as we look forward

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towards even after the defeat,

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the military defeat of ISIS in Rawa and Al-Qa'im,

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there's still going to be work to be done.

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Yes, ISIS will be defeated militarily,

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but we know that there still is going to be

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the ideology and the continued insurgent activity

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as they devolve into that.

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So the transition of the training of kinetic

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and forces to fight a military army

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are already being changed in the training realm

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to focus on policing activities, and counter-terrorism,

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and understanding the threat

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and being able to go after that threat

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prior to any attacks on either the Iraqi forces

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or civilians throughout Iraq.

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So that still has to happen

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and the focus still must be there.

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Still the greatest threat to Iraqis is ISIS

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and what comes after their military defeat.

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So I know that was a long-winded question,

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but you know the focus is not there

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on that problem set as it was prior to the referendum.

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- And then do you have the numbers

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for the amount of Peshmerga forces

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that the U.S. or that the coalition has trained?

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(faint speaking)

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- Yes that is just shy of,

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well it's not U.S., it's coalition.

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So coalition forces have trained just shy

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of 23,000 Peshmerga forces throughout

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the three years that we have started this campaign.

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- And then just one last quick one.

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Has there been any additional face-to-face meetings

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between Russian and coalition officials

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on the deconfliction in the Middle Euphrates River valley?

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- I believe that there was,

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well not believe I know that there was a second meeting

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that did occur at about the same level,

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again outside of Iraq and Syria.

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And that happened about a, I'd say over a week ago.

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- [Adrian] Kevin Baron.

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- Hi, Colonel, on the Pesh training,

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I wonder if you could tell more

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about what lies for their future.

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And about a year ago, I was told out there that,

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that it would shift as fight shifted

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from counter-terrorism assault

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more towards counter-insurgency, hold forces.

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Is that still happening?

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And can you talk a little bit about

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the morale and the mood?

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I mean your commanders who have been training

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these guys up to this point.

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As we're all trying to say here.

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The Kurds think that they're getting

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a little bit of the shaft.

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And what's it like for you to still

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have to train with them,

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what is the message your commanders

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are sending to them directly about not just Kirkuk,

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but about the future of the U.S. sticking with them

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as a security assistance partner, going forward?

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- Okay, thanks for the question.

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And that the training crosses a myriad

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and I can try to find and get

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a more detailed breakdown of what that is for you.

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But I know that that training

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is from all elements of the coalition

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that provide the training in multiple different locations.

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What happened as a part of the referendum,

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there was no decision that was yet made

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on whether or not there was going to be any discontinuation

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of any of that training as a result of the referendum.

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But as I know right now,

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or prior to recent events,

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is that training has continued.

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So I think, as far as any kind of feedback

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of what's been said, I am not privy to any of those.

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I don't know what kind of discussions

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have been had at the face-to-face level,

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particularly in places like Erbil,

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where we do have forces that are currently

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with Peshmerga forces there.

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So I don't have an answer on what

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those discussions have been face-to-face.

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- [Adrian] Phil Stewart from Reuters.

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- Hi, just a few clarifications.

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Yesterday we were trying to find out

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whether or not there were any restrictions

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on U.S. weapons or arms supplied to the Iraqis

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and to the Kurds that would prohibit them

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from using them against each other.

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Do such restrictions exist?

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- What I understand is that

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the weapons that and the training and the weapons

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that we provide to Iraqi Security Force elements,

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to include Peshmerga forces,

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they have to pass,

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anyone who will receive them must be vetted

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before they are provided these weapons.

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And then secondly, there is a way

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to track and to continue to identify these weapons.

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As far as what happens

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on whether or not they are used,

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I don't have an answer for you on what would happen

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in an event that would have us take any kind of weapons

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or take measures to ask for them back.

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I don't have an answer for you on that.

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I can find out, though.

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- Whether or not you know,

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are there ramifications for the clash,

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for those involved with the clash yesterday.

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Are there any,

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is there any guidance being given to either side

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that if they use U.S. arms against each other

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that U.S. assistance will be cut off?

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- Yeah, I don't have an answer for you on that

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as far as overall U.S. arms.

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If an event happened and what it would be

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that would preclude any further divestment.

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I'll have to either defer to,

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well not defer, but I can either find out from

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the Office of Security Cooperation

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or through our policy to find out an answer on that.

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I don't have, I do not know.

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- After you acknowledged a death toll in yesterday's clash,

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we were told by the KRG folks yesterday

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that it was in the tens, maybe a hundred more,

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they don't know, they weren't sure on the numbers.

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But they were citing quite high numbers.

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Do you have a number and would you acknowledge

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if there's a difference in opinion about the degree

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of the bloodshed yesterday,

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yesterday's clash?

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- I will say, we do not have

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a firm number on them,

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but I have said, I have seen differences

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between the low of three and high to 11

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as being the span of reporting on what has come in.

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- And that's for both sides,

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from the Iraqi and the Kurdish?

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Okay.

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- [Ryan] That's correct.

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- The positions in where these events are taking place,

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with the exception of K-1,

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where I'm not so sure if you're still there or not.

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How confident are you in the information

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that you're receiving?

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- Well like I said,

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the information that we're receiving,

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we also have other capabilities

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that allow us to verify those reports.

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So granted, it is not someone on the ground

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that is a coalition member,

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and we're hearing from them firsthand.

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I understand that.

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But there are multiple ways to look at

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and receive reports and to verify it.

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And so that's where as the question came in earlier,

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that's where and how we are receiving our information.

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- Next to Elizabeth McLaughlin of ABC.

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- Hi, Colonel, two questions for you

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Just to clarify on Phil's point about the equipment.

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Yesterday, the Pentagon had said that

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they had received agreements that

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there would be no misuse of military equipment.

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So can you, like, you don't know yet what that would,

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what is misuse of that equipment?

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- That is correct.

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I don't know, I don't know if there's someone

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that is watching for that.

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But I can look that up and try to find an answer for you.

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I don't know.
- That would great, thank you.

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And then my second question is you talked about

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how the planning, looking forward to defeat of ISIS,

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that that has been distracted by what's going on in Kirkuk.

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Can you better parse that out?

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What does that mean,

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planning has been distracted by what's going on?

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- So what I would say is I alluded to it

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a little bit earlier on today.

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And you had also,

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I would also say that there are elements,

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whether it be Iraqi army or counter-terrorism service,

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or any of these units that are also looking at

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potentials for what could happen.

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Clearly, we are trying to dialogue at multiple levels

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with groups on all sides to keep tensions down

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and to refocus our efforts on ISIS.

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But as military planners,

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we are always looking at the what-ifs.

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So that is clearly

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what I would be doing as a planner,

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is looking at all the different ways

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that things could play out and prepare for that.

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So clearly there's

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a focus and without a question with every,

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the last two days and all the emphasis

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and the questions I've received,

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nary has been on Al-Qa'im and Rawa,

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it has all been focused on Kirkuk.

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So I think that shows a very clear picture

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of where the attention is.

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- Have you gotten any indication from the Iraqis

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or the Peshmerga forces that they are less willing to

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or reallocating their resources to not fight ISIS

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and to maybe be more concerned

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about what's going on in Kirkuk?

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- We are,

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we are still working with the Iraqi Security Forces

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and we are still in the middle of a transition.

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So we have not seen all elements

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that have transitioned out towards western Anbar

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and that's where we want to be prepared to go.

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- Next to Tony Capaccio with Bloomberg.

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- [Tony] Hi, a couple questions, Sir.

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At some point will you be able to say definitively

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that ISIS has been defeated militarily?

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Will you be able to declare that at some point?

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- I think you know, obviously we're going to have

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to wait and see until after.

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But I would say that the first thing is that

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if we've taken away all of their territory

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is the first step and we still have to do that.

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In Iraq that is about just over two percent

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or just under three percent of territory

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that is left in Iraq that must be cleared

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and that's in that pocket in Western Anbar.

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So that first must happen before we can say

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ISIS has been defeated militarily.

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- The lay person seeing what's going on in Kirkuk,

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scratching their heads in the United States

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and the subtext of a lot of the coverage is

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this could be foreshadowing a civil war.

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Has any of the official reporting you've seen to date

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hinted at or laid out concerns that

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this could be the start of a civil war

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between the Iraqi government and the Kurds?

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Are those words being used, civil war?

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- We have not

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outside of press reporting,

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we have not seen that at the coalition level

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through the interaction with our leaders.

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- Final: What is the status of the negotiations

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or talks with the Iraqi government

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about an enduring U.S. presence in Iraq

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after ISIS is militarily defeated?

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- That is at levels that would be at the diplomatic levels.

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But clearly, we have had discussions

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both with our commander and the prime minister

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and with the chief of defense, minister of defense

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on first off, the continuation of training,

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as I'd mentioned earlier about the transition

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to training police-like efforts

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and to continue the training efforts

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to build their capacity to keep threats,

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counter-insurgent type threat from rebuilding.

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So we have certainly looked at it from our end.

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And last week when General,

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the same question was asked of Major General White,

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he said that we will have discussions,

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we will give recommendations to the government of Iraq,

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but ultimately it will be the government of Iraq

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that decides and takes any of those

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recommendations and implements them

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for any kind of future presence of U.S.

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or coalition forces in Iraq.
- Thank you.

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- Wesley Morgan at Politico.

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- Hi, Colonel Dillon.

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If I can get you to flesh out a little bit

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what you mean by the disruption

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of the Western Anbar operations.

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Have there been specific instances of Iraq Army

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or CTS units that you were expecting

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to already have showed up in Western Anbar

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that have instead gone to Kirkuk?

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- We have not,

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but we are still not done with the transition

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and the movement of forces to Western Anbar.

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- And also on Kirkuk,

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could you tell us when the coalition first learned

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that Iraqi Security Forces

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would be entering the city of Kirkuk,

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whether there was any advanced warning or notice

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and if so, how long?

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- I don't know that question.

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I know that we certainly knew of it the morning

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of yesterday morning, early in the hours

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of the morning of the 16th of October.

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- Thank you and just one more.

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You mentioned the RISF commander

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who was killed yesterday in Raqqa.

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Can you tell us his name or anything else

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about the circumstances under which he was killed,

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whether there were any coalition advisers

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with him at the time, anything like that?

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- I will follow up after with his name.

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But there were not coalition advisers

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that were with him.

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He was walking through a neighborhood

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in and around in Raqqa

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when he triggered an explosive device

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that blew up and killed both him

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and two of his colleagues that were with him.

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And I can find out that location and where it is

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and the name following this.

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- [Adrian] Back to Kevin Baron with a follow-up.

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- Hi, Colonel.

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This is a bit of a phone of a friend,

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I'm relaying a question from Voice of America's

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Carla Babb, who's at a baby doc appointment.

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But so she's actually asking about Iraq

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from a baby appointment, I think it's worth it.

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But it's a follow-on to the last question of

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if the U.S. was not involved,

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why was the U.S. not involved in the handover in Kirkuk?

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Who coordinated it?

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Was the U.S. involved at any level

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of coordinating it ahead of time?

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And when were these movements decided?

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I mean, are we completely out of it?

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- I don't have an answer on that.

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I know that the movements by the Iraqi Security Forces,

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it was coordinated.

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As far as U.S. being notified,

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like I had already provided that answer

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that I did not know,

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or I don't know if we knew prior to yesterday morning.

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So I don't have an answer to that.

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- Does he want to be involved in this,

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in previous discussions?

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I mean, it was known that that was on the horizon.

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- Well, so it was already announced by the prime minister.

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The prime minister had made some declarations

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and statements about reasserting Iraqi,

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Iraqi presence in and around Kirkuk.

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So I know that it was stated publicly

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by government officials.

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I don't know if we as a coalition

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were identified prior to the morning of the 16th.

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- Now to Liz McLaughlin, ABC.

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- Hi Colonel, sorry, you said there was a second

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face-to-face meeting with the Russians.

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Can you talk a little bit more about what triggered

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that meeting, when that happened?

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- I don't and so I know that it happened,

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and we said that it was likely that

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there was going to be a second meeting.

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There's one that did happen.

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I don't know where it was.

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I know it was not in Iraq or it was not in Syria.

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And it was at the same level,

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about the one-star level from the coalition.

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And it was the same line of discussions

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that talked about the deconfliction

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and where Russian and pro-regime forces

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and Syrian Democratic Forces would go,

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further on down the MERV,

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and what kind of deconfliction measures

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were going to be put in place.

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- Would you be able to get back to us

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about where that meeting took place?

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And that was a face-to-face meeting?

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- It was a face-to-face meeting

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and I don't think we're going to provide a location.

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What I can do is go back and find

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a better date to provide you.

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It was about a week ago.

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But there may be future meetings.

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And again, this is,

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I understand that there have been two meetings,

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the one that we've discussed

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the first time I did the Pentagon press conference

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and we discussed that.

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And then the second one that happened

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about a week ago.
- Thank you.

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- Back to Lucas Tomlinson, Fox News.

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- [Lucas] Colonel, two U.S. senators have expressed concern

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that U.S. weapons and equipment

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was used by the Iraqi Security Forces

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in their movement on Kirkuk.

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Do you share those concerns?

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- I'll go back and a lot of those,

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your question looks about the same

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as some of the other ones about what is,

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what are we, the U.S. going to do

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about use of U.S. weapons and what we would do about it.

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So I will again defer to the Pentagon

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for clarification on that.

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- No, I'm was asking if there's any concern

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by you or members of the coalition

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about U.S. equipment or weapons being used?

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- What we are concerned about is any kind

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of rise in escalation in Kirkuk.

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And we want to have things go back down to a level

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where we can refocus our efforts on defeating ISIS.

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- Does Bagdad have a right to retake the land

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that they say is theirs?

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- All right, I'm not going to address that one, Lucas.

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You want to talk about defeating ISIS,

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I'm ready to field a question about that.

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So I'm not going to address that one.

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- We are at exactly one hour,

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so we're going to go to Kristina Wong

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and you'll get the last question.

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- Great, thank you for doing this, Colonel.

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Some of what's been said today

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directly conflicts with what

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Kurdish officials have been saying.

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The Kurdish regional government representative to the U.S.

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and the Kirkuk governor have both said

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that the clash with the Kurdish Peshmerga

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and the ISF was not a miscommunication.

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They say PMF are riding into Kirkuk in Abrams tanks.

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They described the peaceful handover

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at the airport as a trick.

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Do you think that they're misinformed?

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And is there any concern by the coalition

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that this will complicate the ISIS fight going forward?

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- So what I will say is that we,

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what I have provided you is the reporting

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and what we have seen on the ground,

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not seen on the ground, but received

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from multiple sources and from also

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from verifying through other means.

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So I can only tell you what we have seen

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and what we can report.

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But as far as how will this conflict

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any kind of future against ISIS,

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we clearly want to have the emphasis

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and the focus back on the largest threat in the area,

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and the threat to both Iraqis and Kurds.

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And they've come so far and they have worked together,

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unprecedented,

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especially prior to the liberation

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and the offensive to move into Mosul.

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So it was the Peshmerga that allowed Iraqi Security Forces,

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after several years of contention,

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to move in and through their lines

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to attack ISIS in eastern Mosul.

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And we've seen, again after Mosul

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with the Operation in Tal Afar and also in Hawija,

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how they can work together to defeat

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a common enemy, which is ISIS.

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And this has been proven over and over again.

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And the strength of Iraq has been shown

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so many different times when they can all work together.

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And it happens in these most recent battles.

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So we're so close again, with about three percent

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of territory left in defeating ISIS in Iraq.

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And that's where we want to continue to focus

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and we want to be able to defeat ISIS

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in Iraq for all Iraqis.

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- Thank you.
- Sir, thank you very much.

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Do you have any closing words for the group?

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- No, thanks all and I think next week,

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you may see someone else up here.

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And I think you also have possibly

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a visit coming from CENTCOM.

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So you will likely not see me,

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but you know you can always give me a call

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and I will respond to you.

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All right, thanks.

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- Thank you very much.
- Thank you.

