WEBVTT 00:00.917 --> 00:02.681 - Okay, we'll go ahead and get started. 00:02.681 --> 00:03.931 Good afternoon. 00:04.007 --> 00:06.474 My name is Emily Harman, and I'm the director 00:06.474 --> 00:07.961 of the Department of Navy's 00:07.961 --> 00:09.919 Office of Small Business Programs, 00:09.919 --> 00:13.003 and I'll be the moderator for today's panel 00:13.003 --> 00:16.420 on innovation for operational excellence. 00:17.522 --> 00:19.710 So operational war fighting success 00:19.710 --> 00:22.747 requires our war fighters and our forces 00:22.747 --> 00:24.520 to be ready to prevail 00:24.520 --> 00:26.939 in an environment that is constantly changing 00:26.939 --> 00:29.856 and becoming more and more complex. 00:29.915 --> 00:33.698 And when I was selected to be the moderator for this panel, 00:33.698 --> 00:36.167 I started to do some research and reading. 00:36.167 --> 00:37.934 And then what I did is I read the bios 00:37.934 --> 00:39.838 of everyone that was on the panel, and I thought, 00:39.838 --> 00:41.685 "You don't wanna hear me speak about anything." 00:41.685 --> 00:44.979 I'm gonna cut right to the chase and introduce our speakers, 00:44.979 --> 00:48.049 because they have a lot of great experience, 00:48.049 --> 00:49.560 a lot of good things to say, 00:49.560 --> 00:52.051 and I'm sure that you'll have questions for them. 00:52.051 --> 00:54.253 So the way we're gonna run this panel is, 00:54.253 --> 00:58.420 I'll introduce each of the speakers all up front at once, 00:58.729 --> 01:01.444 and then we'll go ahead and start. 01:01.444 --> 01:04.223 And the speakers will speak for about 10 minutes, 01:04.223 --> 01:08.140 and then we can open the floor up to questions. 01:08.669 --> 01:12.836 So the first speaker is Vice Admiral Jonathan Woodcock, 01:13.746 --> 01:15.449 and he is the Second Sea Lord 01:15.449 --> 01:18.279 and Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff. 01:18.279 --> 01:20.779 He's responsible for all areas 01:20.998 --> 01:24.171 of the Naval Service's capability, requirements, 01:24.171 --> 01:26.421 procurement, and in-service support, 01:26.421 --> 01:30.588 as well as personnel, training, and infrastructure. 01:33.281 --> 01:36.673 And we also have Lieutenant General Walsh. 01:36.673 --> 01:40.720 Lieutenant General Walsh became the Commanding General, 01:40.720 --> 01:43.937 Marine Corps Combat Development Command, 01:43.937 --> 01:48.104 and the Commander of Marine Corps Forces Strategic Command, 01:48.146 --> 01:49.540 and the Deputy Commandant 01:49.540 --> 01:53.707 for Combat Development and Integration in August of 2015. 01:57.473 --> 01:59.660 And Rear Admiral Joseph Vojvodich 01:59.660 --> 02:02.410 is currently the US Coast Guard's 02:02.906 --> 02:05.551 Assistant Commandant for Acquisition 02:05.551 --> 02:07.941 and the Chief Acquisition Officer. 02:07.941 --> 02:09.499 And he directs all efforts 02:09.499 --> 02:12.250 across the Coast Guard acquisition programs, 02:12.250 --> 02:15.509 acquisition support, personnel, finance, 02:15.509 --> 02:18.842 and research and development activities. 02:21.679 --> 02:25.096 And next we have Rear Admiral David Hahn. 02:26.932 --> 02:29.024 He became, in November of 2016, 02:29.024 --> 02:31.774 the 26th Chief of Naval Research, 02:32.143 --> 02:34.705 with concurrent flag responsibilities 02:34.705 --> 02:38.385 as the Director of Innovation, Technology Requirements, 02:38.385 --> 02:41.302 Tests and Evaluation, or OPNAV N94. 02:43.172 --> 02:46.247 He's also my classmate, so I have to say that. 02:46.247 --> 02:47.247 - '85. - '85. 02:49.248 --> 02:50.929 And Vice Admiral Cullom 02:50.929 --> 02:53.211 is the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations 02:53.211 --> 02:55.700 for Fleet Readiness and Logistics. 02:55.700 --> 02:58.644 So please give a warm welcome to our speakers, 02:58.644 --> 02:59.791 and we'll go ahead and get started. 02:59.791 --> 03:02.791 (audience applauds) 03:06.923 --> 03:09.743 - Well, it's a great privilege to have been invited 03:09.743 --> 03:13.216 to this illustrious panel to contribute, perhaps... 03:13.216 --> 03:14.182 Can everyone hear me all right? 03:14.182 --> 03:15.348 Is that working? 03:15.348 --> 03:16.181 Can everyone hear? 03:16.181 --> 03:17.181 Great, okay. 03:18.235 --> 03:21.652 Perhaps to offer a different perspective, 03:21.740 --> 03:24.549 but of a challenge and opportunity that is faced, 03:24.549 --> 03:27.953 I think, by all navies of all sizes around the world, 03:27.953 --> 03:30.704 and a subject for which I have a particular passion, 03:30.704 --> 03:32.784 and that being innovation. 03:32.784 --> 03:34.329 Now, for the Royal Navy, 03:34.329 --> 03:36.738 this is an incredibly exciting period 03:36.738 --> 03:39.995 as we begin the renewal of our strategic nuclear deterrent, 03:39.995 --> 03:42.477 commission the Queen Elizabeth class carriers, 03:42.477 --> 03:45.526 and modernize each of our fighting arms. 03:45.526 --> 03:48.341 In the longer term, our government has made up a commitment 03:48.341 --> 03:50.256 to increase the size of our fleet 03:50.256 --> 03:52.442 with the introduction of a new class 03:52.442 --> 03:55.220 of general purpose frigates from the early 2020s, 03:55.220 --> 03:57.887 which is, of course, great news. 03:58.111 --> 04:01.212 But in truth, even with a growing navy, 04:01.212 --> 04:02.866 we will never have enough resources 04:02.866 --> 04:05.023 to meet the demands placed upon us, 04:05.023 --> 04:08.698 especially when you look at instability in the world today. 04:08.698 --> 04:10.290 Added to this is the proliferation 04:10.290 --> 04:12.718 of anti-access, area denial capabilities, 04:12.718 --> 04:14.753 together with the changing demographics 04:14.753 --> 04:17.667 within the UK and much of the West. 04:17.667 --> 04:20.919 So constraints are inevitable, but demand is growing, 04:20.919 --> 04:24.000 and for these reasons, the Royal Navy looks to innovation 04:24.000 --> 04:27.583 as a means of retaining fighting advantage. 04:28.674 --> 04:30.048 Now, a big part of this 04:30.048 --> 04:32.981 is obviously about novel and disruptive technology. 04:32.981 --> 04:35.044 The Royal Navy is currently exploring the potential 04:35.044 --> 04:38.012 of directed energy weapons, additive manufacture, 04:38.012 --> 04:39.556 and autonomous systems. 04:39.556 --> 04:42.639 Indeed, our new Type 26 Frigate class 04:42.650 --> 04:44.987 is designed with the power and space requirements 04:44.987 --> 04:47.695 precisely for this (mumbles) 04:47.695 --> 04:49.862 But let's be really clear. 04:49.933 --> 04:53.538 Innovation isn't just a matter of equipment. 04:53.538 --> 04:56.538 It also concerns people and process. 04:56.901 --> 04:58.019 It is about changing 04:58.019 --> 05:01.447 the way we do business as an organization, 05:01.447 --> 05:04.530 and about the way we fight as a navy. 05:05.489 --> 05:06.656 And there are three elements 05:06.656 --> 05:09.970 I really want to briefly highlight with you today. 05:09.970 --> 05:11.546 The first of these is the need 05:11.546 --> 05:14.780 for much closer partnership with industry. 05:14.780 --> 05:16.833 Like all navies, the Royal Navy relies 05:16.833 --> 05:18.794 on industry and academia to develop 05:18.794 --> 05:20.457 high end weapons and systems 05:20.457 --> 05:23.019 that keep us ahead of the threat. 05:23.019 --> 05:25.430 In turn, this demand can help drive 05:25.430 --> 05:28.693 the UK government's wider prosperity agenda 05:28.693 --> 05:30.742 by supporting growth and exports 05:30.742 --> 05:33.181 and creating jobs and apprenticeships. 05:33.181 --> 05:35.310 But in order for it to succeed, 05:35.310 --> 05:38.529 it is vital we forge a new way of working together, 05:38.529 --> 05:42.020 honestly and openly pooling ideas and resources 05:42.020 --> 05:43.603 for mutual benefit. 05:44.243 --> 05:46.494 We know that within the Royal Navy 05:46.494 --> 05:48.817 we have the ability to play an active role 05:48.817 --> 05:52.163 in creating the opportunity to do just this. 05:52.163 --> 05:54.533 And last October, for example, 05:54.533 --> 05:57.240 we used our convening power to bring together 05:57.240 --> 06:00.974 50 unmanned systems from more than 40 partners 06:00.974 --> 06:02.999 for an exercise called Unmanned Warrior. 06:02.999 --> 06:07.166 And I'm just gonna ask the team to play a short DVD for you. 06:07.973 --> 06:09.404 Which I think is gonna happen any moment, 06:09.404 --> 06:10.237 but the technology-- 06:10.237 --> 06:13.070 (hard rock music) 06:13.276 --> 06:15.184 - [Man] No longer are the militaries of the world 06:15.184 --> 06:19.225 the only people who in some way own technology development. 06:19.225 --> 06:20.484 How do we continue to operate 06:20.484 --> 06:23.061 in a 21st century maritime battle space 06:23.061 --> 06:25.764 in order to maintain a war fighting cutting edge? 06:25.764 --> 06:28.847 (dramatic crescendo) 06:30.019 --> 06:31.238 (dramatic orchestral music) 06:31.238 --> 06:33.171 - [Narrator] In October, 2016, 06:33.171 --> 06:36.974 over 40 organizations came together with Joint Warrior, 06:36.974 --> 06:39.911 the largest military training exercise in Europe, 06:39.911 --> 06:44.078 to explore and understand the potential of unmanned systems. 06:44.637 --> 06:45.982 Unmanned Warrior brought 06:45.982 --> 06:49.001 industry, academia, and military together, 06:49.001 --> 06:52.221 collaborating as never before, sharing knowledge, 06:52.221 --> 06:54.224 and working to accelerate progress 06:54.224 --> 06:58.141 in the adoption of maritime autonomous systems. 06:59.451 --> 07:00.677 (rock music) 07:00.677 --> 07:02.532 Over 100 missions were delivered 07:02.532 --> 07:05.466 in response to tasking by Joint Warrior, 07:05.466 --> 07:07.772 and over 50 systems took part, 07:07.772 --> 07:10.909 with the majority outputting directly into Ay-su, 07:10.909 --> 07:13.769 the integrated command and control. 07:13.769 --> 07:16.945 This was the first time so many unmanned systems 07:16.945 --> 07:19.362 had been integrated together. 07:19.511 --> 07:22.290 Participants were tasked to understand the environment, 07:22.290 --> 07:25.687 locate threats, and counter potential risks, 07:25.687 --> 07:29.187 demonstrating credible capability options. 07:32.261 --> 07:34.275 (high pitch tone) 07:34.275 --> 07:37.538 - We set out a couple of years ago to challenge ourselves. 07:37.538 --> 07:41.253 It's been hugely exciting, and is actually posing for us now 07:41.253 --> 07:44.994 a number of questions about where we want to take this next. 07:44.994 --> 07:47.287 - Innovation has always been something that has helped 07:47.287 --> 07:49.768 our armed forces stay at the cutting edge, 07:49.768 --> 07:51.453 so an exercise like this is going to be 07:51.453 --> 07:54.468 so valuable in informing the kind of decisions 07:54.468 --> 07:56.471 that the Royal Navy and the rest of the armed forces 07:56.471 --> 08:00.138 are gonna have to make in the years to come. 08:03.753 --> 08:06.753 - The reason the event was so successful 08:06.753 --> 08:09.552 was because it was designed to be collaborative 08:09.552 --> 08:10.885 from the outset. 08:11.001 --> 08:14.040 And we drew on the ideas and ingenuity 08:14.040 --> 08:17.173 of non-traditional partners, particularly 08:17.173 --> 08:20.740 small and medium size companies and startup firms 08:20.740 --> 08:22.555 who do not normally play 08:22.555 --> 08:24.681 at the top of the equipment supply chain 08:24.681 --> 08:26.431 of prime contractors. 08:27.759 --> 08:29.676 So we're looking for ideas and technology 08:29.676 --> 08:33.250 to allow rapid and automated integration of new sensors 08:33.250 --> 08:35.207 to free up personnel by innovative use 08:35.207 --> 08:38.482 of machine learning algorithms and artificial intelligence 08:38.482 --> 08:40.065 and to find new ways 08:40.065 --> 08:43.398 to access, use, and exploit information. 08:43.796 --> 08:45.352 Many of these same ideas 08:45.352 --> 08:47.544 are now being put to test as we speak 08:47.544 --> 08:49.265 in another exercise we're running currently 08:49.265 --> 08:51.451 called Information Warrior, where once again, 08:51.451 --> 08:54.081 we draw together numerous partners from around the world 08:54.081 --> 08:55.738 to challenge and stimulate one another 08:55.738 --> 08:57.655 to develop mutual gain. 08:59.233 --> 09:02.736 So closely related as industry is my second point, 09:02.736 --> 09:06.755 which is the importance of cooperation with partner navies. 09:06.755 --> 09:09.493 Today, the UK's most significant military operations 09:09.493 --> 09:10.995 are conducted in coalition, 09:10.995 --> 09:13.682 either through formal frameworks like NATO 09:13.682 --> 09:17.849 or through looser coalitions and bilateral partnerships. 09:17.916 --> 09:19.092 Given the timescales 09:19.092 --> 09:21.244 of research and development and procurement, 09:21.244 --> 09:22.689 it is crucial that we develop 09:22.689 --> 09:25.278 the open architecture and modularity in equipment 09:25.278 --> 09:27.422 whilst it's on the drawing board. 09:27.422 --> 09:30.008 And there are undoubtedly benefits, mutual benefits, 09:30.008 --> 09:32.925 of sharing that with other nations. 09:33.472 --> 09:35.691 But there is much more we can do together, 09:35.691 --> 09:38.691 and once again, it's much more than just kit. 09:38.691 --> 09:41.187 It's about developing the common protocols, 09:41.187 --> 09:44.418 shared instincts, and mutual confidence necessary 09:44.418 --> 09:48.585 to operate with one another quickly and effectively. 09:49.268 --> 09:51.031 And the third and final point I want to make, 09:51.031 --> 09:53.278 and it's perhaps the most important of all, 09:53.278 --> 09:55.528 is about people and skills. 09:56.034 --> 09:58.969 It falls to our young sailors and marines to marshal 09:58.969 --> 10:02.034 these distinct technologies and capabilities together 10:02.034 --> 10:05.867 into a single, credible, battle winning force. 10:06.009 --> 10:08.903 The pace and complexity is relentless. 10:08.903 --> 10:11.635 We will only keep up and keep ahead 10:11.635 --> 10:13.718 by learning and adapting. 10:14.884 --> 10:17.009 Now of course, the nature of warfare 10:17.009 --> 10:19.352 demands discipline and hierarchy, 10:19.352 --> 10:21.731 but we cannot let it get in the way of accessing 10:21.731 --> 10:24.781 the skills and talent that are crucial and critical 10:24.781 --> 10:27.198 to operational effectiveness. 10:27.581 --> 10:30.248 Ultimately, this may mean looking to recruit 10:30.248 --> 10:31.827 different kinds of people, 10:31.827 --> 10:35.018 even if they don't fit the usual military mold. 10:35.018 --> 10:36.744 And this is already the case 10:36.744 --> 10:39.007 as we look for cyber operations, 10:39.007 --> 10:41.273 and managing those people with those skills 10:41.273 --> 10:44.071 is very different in career management terms today 10:44.071 --> 10:47.238 than was perhaps the norm in the past. 10:47.740 --> 10:48.639 Within this also, 10:48.639 --> 10:51.258 there's a greater role for the use of reserves, 10:51.258 --> 10:53.961 and a very significantly important question 10:53.961 --> 10:55.774 about the role of contractors 10:55.774 --> 10:58.774 in supporting front line operations. 10:59.268 --> 11:01.504 Meanwhile, the demand for STEM skills 11:01.504 --> 11:05.279 will grow ever more critical in the years ahead. 11:05.279 --> 11:06.774 In the past, the armed forces 11:06.774 --> 11:09.252 were in competition with industry for these people, 11:09.252 --> 11:12.020 but that is finally beginning to change. 11:12.020 --> 11:14.004 And increasingly, we in the Royal Navy 11:14.004 --> 11:15.973 are working with colleges and universities 11:15.973 --> 11:18.074 to steer more young people towards careers 11:18.074 --> 11:20.703 in technology and engineering at an early age. 11:20.703 --> 11:22.740 And whether they end up serving in uniform 11:22.740 --> 11:25.167 or working in industry, we still gain, 11:25.167 --> 11:26.555 because the success of the Navy 11:26.555 --> 11:29.830 is so tightly bound to that of industry. 11:29.830 --> 11:31.486 So in drawing to a close, 11:31.486 --> 11:33.183 the Royal Navy is looking for ways 11:33.183 --> 11:34.805 in which we can help accelerate 11:34.805 --> 11:36.992 the development and application of technology 11:36.992 --> 11:40.722 to ensure we remain at the forefront of fighting capability. 11:40.722 --> 11:42.504 Doing so requires us to draw on 11:42.504 --> 11:45.195 both our industrial and international partnerships, 11:45.195 --> 11:47.040 but the benefits are shared, 11:47.040 --> 11:49.221 and there is much we can learn from one another. 11:49.221 --> 11:50.054 Thank you. 11:51.948 --> 11:54.948 (audience applauds) 11:59.482 --> 12:00.315 - Okay. 12:00.315 --> 12:02.349 Well, I think exactly what the Admiral was hitting on 12:02.349 --> 12:03.396 is where I'd like to start off, 12:03.396 --> 12:06.479 is the war fighting superiority that we are looking for 12:06.479 --> 12:08.312 depends on innovation. 12:08.588 --> 12:11.194 And that's exactly where we're trying to come from, 12:11.194 --> 12:13.288 and how do we innovate faster? 12:13.288 --> 12:15.955 And just as in Unmanned Warrior, 12:16.023 --> 12:18.548 integrating the fleet, our operating forces, 12:18.548 --> 12:21.360 is so critical to the innovation we do. 12:21.360 --> 12:23.768 And that's key to all the experimentation 12:23.768 --> 12:24.995 and all the learning we're doing, 12:24.995 --> 12:27.631 is trying to get our operating forces involved. 12:27.631 --> 12:29.464 A vignette I would use 12:29.519 --> 12:32.769 from past days learned from our history 12:33.212 --> 12:35.970 was what the Marine Corps and the Navy did as partners 12:35.970 --> 12:37.720 in the interwar years 12:38.362 --> 12:41.688 back between World War I and World War II. 12:41.688 --> 12:44.538 We did a series of fleet exercises back then, 12:44.538 --> 12:45.871 down in Culebra, 12:46.181 --> 12:50.166 exercises that we were doing in amphibious warfare. 12:50.166 --> 12:53.946 And back in those days, this was post Gallipoli, 12:53.946 --> 12:55.006 there was a lot of people that thought 12:55.006 --> 12:57.251 we would never conduct amphibious landings. 12:57.251 --> 12:59.733 In fact, those amphibious landings actually started 12:59.733 --> 13:01.213 from looking at how we would defend 13:01.213 --> 13:02.960 against an amphibious landing. 13:02.960 --> 13:04.718 And then, during those interwar years, 13:04.718 --> 13:07.084 we did a lot in those fleet exercises 13:07.084 --> 13:08.835 to try to figure out how marines 13:08.835 --> 13:10.505 would innovate, change, adapt, 13:10.505 --> 13:12.788 to be able to conduct that type of warfare. 13:12.788 --> 13:16.205 The first ones were an absolute disaster. 13:17.747 --> 13:21.683 Between command and control trying to get our tanks ashore, 13:21.683 --> 13:23.751 coxswains not finding landing sites, 13:23.751 --> 13:26.394 naval gunfire not hitting where it was supposed to hit, 13:26.394 --> 13:28.334 you would have thought we would have quit after that. 13:28.334 --> 13:31.041 We kept at it, and between the '20s and '30s, 13:31.041 --> 13:33.211 we learned a lot, and a lot of that was the success 13:33.211 --> 13:36.211 that we saw throughout World War II. 13:36.732 --> 13:39.861 And I think that's the innovation for operational excellence 13:39.861 --> 13:42.464 that we see today, and we follow in the footsteps 13:42.464 --> 13:46.047 of those marines and sailors that did that. 13:46.251 --> 13:48.552 A lot of that was force on force training, 13:48.552 --> 13:50.010 and part of our (mumbles) 13:50.010 --> 13:51.975 is looking at force on force training, 13:51.975 --> 13:54.591 and I think as we start to look at higher end threats today 13:54.591 --> 13:57.027 and how we operate against higher end threats, 13:57.027 --> 13:58.316 we're doing a lot more 13:58.316 --> 14:00.471 when it comes to force on force training, 14:00.471 --> 14:03.933 training against a thinking, operating enemy. 14:03.933 --> 14:05.298 And so the Commandant has got us 14:05.298 --> 14:07.460 pushing much harder into that area 14:07.460 --> 14:10.793 of how we conduct that type of training. 14:12.428 --> 14:13.261 One of the things, I think, 14:13.261 --> 14:15.191 that helps us with our innovation 14:15.191 --> 14:19.262 is our Marine Corps Warfighting Lab, our laboratory. 14:19.262 --> 14:21.196 The Warfighting Laboratory's role 14:21.196 --> 14:25.299 is to connect operators to our capability developers, 14:25.299 --> 14:27.538 our experimenters, our technologists, 14:27.538 --> 14:29.750 our science and technology areas. 14:29.750 --> 14:31.466 That war fighting area was stood up, 14:31.466 --> 14:34.015 Warfighting Lab was stood up in 1995, 14:34.015 --> 14:37.480 by then, the Commandant, General Charles Krulak, 14:37.480 --> 14:39.513 and it was stood up down at Quantico. 14:39.513 --> 14:42.430 And they stood it up as the conduit 14:42.946 --> 14:45.363 for innovation in operations. 14:45.918 --> 14:48.531 And it was really one of those things that became 14:48.531 --> 14:51.258 the testbed for all of our integration 14:51.258 --> 14:54.091 back in those days, post-Cold War. 14:54.443 --> 14:56.740 We had a thing called Sea Dragon. 14:56.740 --> 15:00.407 And Sea Dragon, marines coming from the sea, 15:00.418 --> 15:03.375 and really harnessing the dragon of change 15:03.375 --> 15:05.014 was what we did back in those days. 15:05.014 --> 15:07.514 We recently just reinvigorated 15:07.705 --> 15:11.872 our Sea Dragon series of experimentation and innovation 15:12.206 --> 15:13.732 down at the Warfighting Lab. 15:13.732 --> 15:14.593 And as we look at, 15:14.593 --> 15:16.557 like I talked about harnessing those operators 15:16.557 --> 15:19.463 across the fleet in the operating forces, 15:19.463 --> 15:22.717 we've got about 170 marines and civilian marines 15:22.717 --> 15:24.245 down there at the Warfighting Lab, 15:24.245 --> 15:26.662 but we feel like they harness 15:26.928 --> 15:30.257 the entire Marine Corps of 184,000 marines 15:30.257 --> 15:32.787 with the innovation and ideas that they have 15:32.787 --> 15:34.962 throughout the operating forces. 15:34.962 --> 15:39.129 Today, Sea Dragon is really a 10 year campaign of learning, 15:40.057 --> 15:44.140 with lots of exercises, deployments, experiments, 15:44.510 --> 15:46.980 that are going on across the Marine Corps 15:46.980 --> 15:48.979 that we harvest to move forward. 15:48.979 --> 15:50.935 So those fleet exercises 15:50.935 --> 15:53.694 that were conducted back in the '20s and '30s 15:53.694 --> 15:56.014 when it came to amphibious operations, 15:56.014 --> 15:58.938 we're trying to harness the same type of innovation today 15:58.938 --> 16:01.175 in our marines and sailors today. 16:01.175 --> 16:02.284 At the Warfighting Lab, 16:02.284 --> 16:05.447 we've got advanced war fighting exercises 16:05.447 --> 16:08.492 that are going on constantly that we're doing, 16:08.492 --> 16:11.190 some large, some small, some very limited objective, 16:11.190 --> 16:13.481 and some I'll talk about in a second. 16:13.481 --> 16:17.287 We also have the Commandant's Innovation Symposium. 16:17.287 --> 16:20.195 Every year in May, we put together this symposium 16:20.195 --> 16:24.362 where we bring in operators from across the Marine Corps, 16:24.494 --> 16:27.232 along with our technologists, industry, 16:27.232 --> 16:29.267 to conduct a symposium and try to help us 16:29.267 --> 16:31.799 with where we should be innovating and move forward. 16:31.799 --> 16:35.263 Last year, we also had a science fiction forum. 16:35.263 --> 16:37.789 We brought together science fiction writers 16:37.789 --> 16:40.032 to help our young marines to come up with ideas 16:40.032 --> 16:42.530 on what the future operating environment should be 16:42.530 --> 16:46.004 and what type of capabilities we should be looking for, 16:46.004 --> 16:48.466 both technology and operational constructs 16:48.466 --> 16:50.963 that we should do to move forward. 16:50.963 --> 16:53.245 And then finally, the Commandant had us 16:53.245 --> 16:55.713 put together an innovation portal, 16:55.713 --> 16:57.765 which has really been a crowdsourcing portal 16:57.765 --> 17:00.484 for innovation across the Marine Corps, 17:00.484 --> 17:04.469 the Marine Mail of today, to bring in new ideas. 17:04.469 --> 17:07.386 And we're onto our second quarterly 17:08.238 --> 17:10.738 Innovation Commandant's Innovation Objective 17:10.738 --> 17:14.276 for our tasks that we've done, and that's been tremendous 17:14.276 --> 17:17.557 of getting ideas from across the Marine Corps 17:17.557 --> 17:21.724 in different functional areas that we're trying to tackle. 17:22.019 --> 17:25.193 And what we do is we take those innovation ideas, 17:25.193 --> 17:27.928 if they're selected by the Commandant, 17:27.928 --> 17:31.249 we take that and put it into our Rapid Capabilities Office, 17:31.249 --> 17:33.997 try to drive that into a science and technology program, 17:33.997 --> 17:36.231 and try to move that idea forward 17:36.231 --> 17:38.520 and take those award winners 17:38.520 --> 17:42.180 to take that from the cradle to move those ideas forward 17:42.180 --> 17:45.454 with our combat developers and experimenters. 17:45.454 --> 17:47.470 Another area that we stood up 17:47.470 --> 17:49.806 in part of the Sea Dragon series 17:49.806 --> 17:51.972 is our experimentation force, 17:51.972 --> 17:53.984 which is 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, 17:53.984 --> 17:56.350 which is moving forward the Commandant's idea 17:56.350 --> 17:59.722 of generating a fifth generation Marine Corps. 17:59.722 --> 18:02.237 How do we take those technologies and capabilities 18:02.237 --> 18:03.964 that many of you are developing 18:03.964 --> 18:05.581 and get 'em into the hands of our marines 18:05.581 --> 18:07.245 and move the Marine Corps forward? 18:07.245 --> 18:09.509 Just as we are with the F-35, 18:09.509 --> 18:11.478 moving the F-35 in a fifth generation, 18:11.478 --> 18:14.508 we want the entire Marine Corps down to our squad level 18:14.508 --> 18:16.240 operating as a fifth generation 18:16.240 --> 18:18.023 marine, air, ground task force. 18:18.023 --> 18:19.711 So that's a key part of that, 18:19.711 --> 18:23.040 and that task force that's being overseen 18:23.040 --> 18:25.270 by the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab 18:25.270 --> 18:27.242 but is run by an operational unit, 18:27.242 --> 18:31.409 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, that is gonna fore-deploy 18:32.770 --> 18:35.444 later this summer into the Pacific, 18:35.444 --> 18:39.020 and eventually part of 31st MEU on USS Wasp. 18:39.020 --> 18:41.234 And when they're on Wasp, they'll be partnered with 18:41.234 --> 18:44.799 our first F-35 squadron that's operational. 18:44.799 --> 18:46.716 So they've worked with them before they deploy, 18:46.716 --> 18:49.506 and we're looking for a lot of great innovation coming 18:49.506 --> 18:52.630 between our ground forces and the F-35 18:52.630 --> 18:55.297 as they go forward in that area. 18:55.615 --> 18:57.302 The Rapid Capabilities Office 18:57.302 --> 18:59.321 we stood up within the Warfighting Lab, 18:59.321 --> 19:02.259 trying to take commercial, off the shelf capabilities, 19:02.259 --> 19:04.700 government off the shelf capabilities, 19:04.700 --> 19:06.461 and learn as fast as we can 19:06.461 --> 19:08.425 along with non-developmental programs. 19:08.425 --> 19:10.531 That's been a great success so far. 19:10.531 --> 19:14.698 In fact, just this last week, we awarded our first contract, 19:14.734 --> 19:16.722 which was a decision war room 19:16.722 --> 19:18.681 that was really bottom up in this case 19:18.681 --> 19:22.443 where we had a battalion of marines down at Camp Lejeune 19:22.443 --> 19:23.695 that took an idea forward 19:23.695 --> 19:25.678 of taking a lot of technology that we have, 19:25.678 --> 19:28.836 helping us with Admiral Hahn's folks down at ONR, 19:28.836 --> 19:30.265 pulling this together, 19:30.265 --> 19:32.765 and having a capability down at the lowest levels, 19:32.765 --> 19:34.184 down at those battalions, 19:34.184 --> 19:37.486 to be able to do war gaming, mission planning, 19:37.486 --> 19:40.248 and also mission rehearsal, and then debriefing, 19:40.248 --> 19:42.664 with capabilities that they brought together. 19:42.664 --> 19:44.760 And we put that on contract, and we're gonna put that 19:44.760 --> 19:48.042 across 24 different battalions in the Marine Corps. 19:48.042 --> 19:50.225 Another one that's larger than that is our 19:50.225 --> 19:54.392 Ship to Shore Maneuver Advanced Naval Technology Experiment. 19:56.101 --> 19:57.465 That technology experiment 19:57.465 --> 20:00.474 is gonna go on at the end of this month at Camp Pendleton, 20:00.474 --> 20:04.641 and it's gonna bring together lots of different capabilities 20:04.742 --> 20:07.825 across industry, our warfare centers, 20:09.222 --> 20:13.389 our universities, federal research and development centers. 20:14.260 --> 20:17.013 When we started this project, we brought in 20:17.013 --> 20:20.779 a lot of different technologies, industry, to help us go, 20:20.779 --> 20:23.527 "How are we gonna get ashore differently in the future?" 20:23.527 --> 20:24.793 Through that experiment, 20:24.793 --> 20:26.544 very much like what the Admiral was talking about 20:26.544 --> 20:29.947 with the Unmanned Warrior, we are now gonna demonstrate 20:29.947 --> 20:33.749 over 100 different capabilities out at Camp Pendleton 20:33.749 --> 20:36.247 on how we're gonna get ashore differently in the future. 20:36.247 --> 20:38.067 And it wasn't all about trying to get 20:38.067 --> 20:40.535 an amphibious combat vehicle going faster. 20:40.535 --> 20:43.323 We're looking across the spectrum of war fighting 20:43.323 --> 20:45.050 and leveraging both industry 20:45.050 --> 20:46.993 and our government warfare centers 20:46.993 --> 20:49.496 on new capabilities that can help us in that area. 20:49.496 --> 20:51.478 And we're very excited that it's gonna be, 20:51.478 --> 20:52.973 really, the modernization, 20:52.973 --> 20:55.035 not looking at old ways to do things, 20:55.035 --> 20:57.972 but how technology can lead us in new directions. 20:57.972 --> 20:58.930 So we've got 20:58.930 --> 21:01.212 a number of capabilities that are gonna do that, 21:01.212 --> 21:04.181 and we already have four different projects 21:04.181 --> 21:06.025 that we've got planned for this year, 21:06.025 --> 21:07.898 and we've got four additional in '18 21:07.898 --> 21:09.771 that we're looking forward to do. 21:09.771 --> 21:13.938 Where we can need help as we move these ideas forward. 21:14.212 --> 21:17.511 I think the pace we've talked about of moving faster 21:17.511 --> 21:20.004 is tied up, as the CNO said this morning, 21:20.004 --> 21:22.921 in a Byzantine acquisition process. 21:23.919 --> 21:25.162 And that's where we've gotta move 21:25.162 --> 21:27.579 much faster as we go forward. 21:27.734 --> 21:29.742 We've got a capitalistic way 21:29.742 --> 21:32.162 of entrepreneurship in this country, 21:32.162 --> 21:35.911 but a lot of the ways we do it are slow to move forward, 21:35.911 --> 21:37.050 and that's where we need help. 21:37.050 --> 21:40.297 As I look in my own POM development process, 21:40.297 --> 21:42.722 to be able to go through the requirements process 21:42.722 --> 21:44.430 and the budget process, 21:44.430 --> 21:45.506 the Commandant of the Marine Corps 21:45.506 --> 21:47.212 kicks me in the rear all the time 21:47.212 --> 21:49.711 when he comes up with an idea that we wanna do and I go, 21:49.711 --> 21:51.961 "Well, I just missed POM 19. 21:51.961 --> 21:53.667 "Maybe I can get it into 20 21:53.667 --> 21:55.489 "and see if we can get things moving." 21:55.489 --> 21:58.471 That's not fast enough in today's technology, 21:58.471 --> 22:00.317 and that's where we've gotta go much quicker. 22:00.317 --> 22:02.234 So rapidly prototyping. 22:02.267 --> 22:04.519 I think there's a lot been done at Congress 22:04.519 --> 22:06.517 to help us move forward. 22:06.517 --> 22:09.184 The NDAA in '16 with Section 804 22:10.751 --> 22:13.251 and NDAA in '17 in Section 806 22:13.930 --> 22:15.972 have done an awful lot to help us 22:15.972 --> 22:18.889 move faster with rapid prototyping. 22:19.206 --> 22:21.054 But now working through the bureaucracy 22:21.054 --> 22:23.971 and how quickly we can actually get this done 22:23.971 --> 22:27.481 and how we can move faster in this rapid prototyping area, 22:27.481 --> 22:28.987 like that example I talked about, 22:28.987 --> 22:33.154 the Ship to Shore Maneuver Advanced Technology Exercise, 22:33.757 --> 22:37.245 how can we take things we learn in this exercise 22:37.245 --> 22:40.985 and rapidly move them into Bold Alligator this fall 22:40.985 --> 22:44.735 and then finally into procurement of programs 22:44.954 --> 22:47.257 that we wanna learn from very quickly 22:47.257 --> 22:49.441 and then find the right way ahead? 22:49.441 --> 22:51.453 A lot of work being done at Congress. 22:51.453 --> 22:54.208 A lot of work being done across DoD. 22:54.208 --> 22:55.444 But I'm not as confident 22:55.444 --> 22:57.072 that we're actually gonna get this done 22:57.072 --> 22:59.431 in the way we need to, in the way the threats out there 22:59.431 --> 23:01.732 are innovating and moving faster. 23:01.732 --> 23:03.993 So I think a lot of good work going on. 23:03.993 --> 23:06.980 And again, I'll go back to the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab. 23:06.980 --> 23:09.051 There's not many services that have the capability 23:09.051 --> 23:12.747 that can bring operators together like we do at that lab, 23:12.747 --> 23:14.534 and bring them together 23:14.534 --> 23:17.684 with a lot of the capabilities many of you have, 23:17.684 --> 23:20.085 and bring that together and see how we can go forward. 23:20.085 --> 23:22.758 So after this panel, I know at 3:30 23:22.758 --> 23:25.445 they've got another panel that the lab is gonna be able 23:25.445 --> 23:27.772 to talk to you about some of the great things we're doing. 23:27.772 --> 23:31.011 So with that, again, thank you for being here 23:31.011 --> 23:33.967 and having a chance to talk to you today. 23:33.967 --> 23:36.967 (audience applauds) 23:40.518 --> 23:41.934 - Good afternoon, everyone. 23:41.934 --> 23:44.654 Real honor to be here with such a esteemed group of leaders 23:44.654 --> 23:47.491 to be able to talk about innovation, 23:47.491 --> 23:48.997 perhaps the most important quality 23:48.997 --> 23:51.253 that we're asking of our forces. 23:51.253 --> 23:53.529 When Admiral Zukunft became Commandant, 23:53.529 --> 23:57.490 he charged us to be continuous innovators and learners. 23:57.490 --> 23:59.007 So how do we do that? 23:59.007 --> 24:02.683 How do we make innovation a mission imperative? 24:02.683 --> 24:05.472 One of Google's most famous management philosophies 24:05.472 --> 24:08.305 is something called 20% time, 24:08.705 --> 24:11.732 where they encourage employees to spend 20% of their time 24:11.732 --> 24:15.899 working on things that they think will most benefit Google. 24:16.525 --> 24:20.192 Now that would definitely invite innovation. 24:20.556 --> 24:22.760 Well, I might not be able to implement 24:22.760 --> 24:24.221 such a policy in the Coast Guard, 24:24.221 --> 24:26.721 but we are looking for and finding ways 24:26.721 --> 24:29.206 to tap our workforce's ability 24:29.206 --> 24:31.567 to find, develop, and share solutions 24:31.567 --> 24:34.984 to all kind of organizational challenges. 24:35.011 --> 24:35.844 Slide. 24:38.196 --> 24:40.696 So why do we need to innovate? 24:40.733 --> 24:42.482 Sometimes it's pretty simple. 24:42.482 --> 24:46.649 Do you wanna be Blockbuster or do you wanna be Netflix? 24:46.693 --> 24:48.471 Who here is gonna be swinging by Blockbuster 24:48.471 --> 24:49.971 on their way home? 24:50.469 --> 24:52.932 Anyone here might be watching Netflix tonight? 24:52.932 --> 24:56.515 Well, you're either in the cycle of renewal 24:56.683 --> 24:59.751 or trudging along toward irrelevance. 24:59.751 --> 25:03.918 Continuous innovation is how organizations remain relevant. 25:04.391 --> 25:05.224 Slide. 25:06.748 --> 25:07.818 So how do we get the voice 25:07.818 --> 25:11.679 of our incredibly rich and diverse workforce to be heard? 25:11.679 --> 25:15.762 How might the E2 have an equal voice with the O8? 25:16.957 --> 25:19.018 Well, we tried one particular topic. 25:19.018 --> 25:21.656 We rolled out a crowdsourcing platform, 25:21.656 --> 25:23.950 and the response so far has been incredible. 25:23.950 --> 25:25.452 We've issued a number of challenges, 25:25.452 --> 25:29.619 from narrow technical ones to sweeping policy changes. 25:30.545 --> 25:32.301 And as a benchmark here, I have five percent. 25:32.301 --> 25:35.750 Well, five percent of the workforce is about what NASA gets 25:35.750 --> 25:38.942 when it does its internal crowdsourcing campaigns, 25:38.942 --> 25:41.792 and NASA has been doing crowdsourcing research 25:41.792 --> 25:44.726 for some time now, and successful at it. 25:44.726 --> 25:47.697 So we have folks logging on on the weekends and at night. 25:47.697 --> 25:50.458 Following this growth in participation 25:50.458 --> 25:52.458 has been very rewarding. 25:53.150 --> 25:53.983 Slide. 25:55.906 --> 25:57.193 So here's one of the first 25:57.193 --> 26:00.171 innovation challenges that we launched. 26:00.171 --> 26:03.249 Our new ship's pier side electric bills 26:03.249 --> 26:05.332 were bigger than we like. 26:05.421 --> 26:08.459 So we asked, "How do we drive down the bills?" 26:08.459 --> 26:10.477 We got a lot what you expect. 26:10.477 --> 26:14.644 Install solar panels, install LED lights, stuff like that. 26:15.502 --> 26:18.510 But one electrician stopped us in our tracks. 26:18.510 --> 26:20.719 He noticed that when ships were underway, 26:20.719 --> 26:22.013 gone on deployment, 26:22.013 --> 26:25.792 their huge electrical transformer on the pier was on, 26:25.792 --> 26:29.125 humming along, hot, burning electricity, 26:29.482 --> 26:31.716 when the ships were underway. 26:31.716 --> 26:34.169 Then he asked, "Why don't we just turn them off 26:34.169 --> 26:36.669 "when the ships get underway?" 26:36.905 --> 26:40.045 It reminded me of the modern day fable 26:40.045 --> 26:43.549 of the young child telling the frustrated adult 26:43.549 --> 26:46.227 how to get a stuck truck out of the tunnel 26:46.227 --> 26:48.169 after exhausting attempts. 26:48.169 --> 26:50.768 Just let some air out of the tire. 26:50.768 --> 26:51.721 And we were like, 26:51.721 --> 26:54.032 "Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?" 26:54.032 --> 26:56.032 Well, maybe someone has, 26:56.405 --> 27:00.159 but the idea had no means to get to a decision maker. 27:00.159 --> 27:00.992 Slide. 27:02.679 --> 27:04.942 This is our 47 foot motor lifeboat. 27:04.942 --> 27:08.654 It's an asset that's very near and dear to our hearts. 27:08.654 --> 27:10.006 It's the boat that's designed 27:10.006 --> 27:12.402 to roll all the way over in a crashing surf 27:12.402 --> 27:13.902 and be survivable. 27:14.254 --> 27:15.294 We're proud of it, 27:15.294 --> 27:18.192 as it has saved many, many lives over the years. 27:18.192 --> 27:19.730 Well, the boat is 20 years old, 27:19.730 --> 27:22.771 and it's time to tear it down and rebuild it. 27:22.771 --> 27:24.499 It's gonna be a major project for us. 27:24.499 --> 27:28.666 107 of those assets, hundreds of millions of dollars. 27:28.750 --> 27:30.515 And when we started this process, 27:30.515 --> 27:33.946 our innovation team and our Human Factors Office said, 27:33.946 --> 27:35.196 "Hey, time out. 27:35.440 --> 27:37.541 "Let's reach out to the two decades 27:37.541 --> 27:41.668 "of accumulated boat operators and engineers and ask them, 27:41.668 --> 27:43.168 "give them the opportunity of what might go 27:43.168 --> 27:44.669 "on our work list." 27:44.669 --> 27:45.767 So we invited them to 27:45.767 --> 27:49.219 a private section of the crowdsourcing platform, 27:49.219 --> 27:51.687 and we received almost 50 ideas, 27:51.687 --> 27:53.704 all of them very thoughtful. 27:53.704 --> 27:54.537 Slide. 27:55.487 --> 27:56.445 Lot of words up there, 27:56.445 --> 27:59.362 but this is an example of ownership 27:59.491 --> 28:03.255 that you'll find when you tap a vein of passion. 28:03.255 --> 28:04.700 The person who submitted this idea 28:04.700 --> 28:06.986 works on these boats every day, 28:06.986 --> 28:09.722 and he knows them inside and out. 28:09.722 --> 28:12.972 The give a dang factor of this engineer 28:13.001 --> 28:17.002 to take the time to make this post is off the charts. 28:17.002 --> 28:17.835 Slide. 28:19.260 --> 28:21.891 When we sent our Human Factors folks to ride these boats 28:21.891 --> 28:24.521 to validate some of the things that we were hearing 28:24.521 --> 28:26.771 and submitted by the users, 28:27.221 --> 28:29.185 we found a few interesting things. 28:29.185 --> 28:33.029 Remember, this is the boat that's designed to be survivable 28:33.029 --> 28:35.685 if it's rolled completely over by surf. 28:35.685 --> 28:37.985 Well, the team found out that the helm 28:37.985 --> 28:40.038 isn't lined up with the coxswain's chair, 28:40.038 --> 28:41.706 and the driver is seated in 28:41.706 --> 28:45.777 an uncomfortable, semi-crouched position to reach the helm. 28:45.777 --> 28:49.896 Now, that's bad enough at your desk in your office, 28:49.896 --> 28:52.272 but we're expecting these boat drivers to sit here 28:52.272 --> 28:55.272 for hours on end in high seas state. 28:55.763 --> 28:58.021 So of course, after seeing this, we're looking for 28:58.021 --> 29:01.688 a much more ergonomic design of the cockpit. 29:02.248 --> 29:03.695 The result of all this engagement 29:03.695 --> 29:06.293 is a much more optimized, safer, 29:06.293 --> 29:09.460 more effective search and rescue asset 29:10.198 --> 29:14.365 to achieve a higher degree of operational excellence. 29:14.673 --> 29:15.506 Slide. 29:17.267 --> 29:20.464 Okay, so here's our head of contracting activity 29:20.464 --> 29:22.003 deciding to take a look at 29:22.003 --> 29:24.777 one of the most important procurement functions, 29:24.777 --> 29:28.531 the Contracting Officers' Representative Program. 29:28.531 --> 29:30.343 Now, I know writing policy 29:30.343 --> 29:34.510 isn't as exciting or glamorous as optimizing a surfboat, 29:34.994 --> 29:38.022 but it's work that touches every single mission 29:38.022 --> 29:39.984 and every Coast Guard function. 29:39.984 --> 29:43.272 So we sent it out all to the contracting officers, 29:43.272 --> 29:47.439 specialists, program managers' corps, over 3,000 people, 29:47.519 --> 29:51.686 and we got tremendous amount of response to the question of, 29:52.511 --> 29:55.232 how do you make the program better? 29:55.232 --> 29:57.474 So through this wealth of discussion, 29:57.474 --> 30:00.142 we're gonna totally revamp the core policy, 30:00.142 --> 30:03.259 and the department is eagerly waiting for us to finish 30:03.259 --> 30:06.627 so they can implement it department wide. 30:06.627 --> 30:07.460 Slide. 30:10.369 --> 30:12.953 When we're talking about creating a culture of innovation, 30:12.953 --> 30:17.120 the most important thing must be recognizing and fostering 30:17.461 --> 30:20.628 creative problem solving in the fleet. 30:21.719 --> 30:23.500 We want our folks to know 30:23.500 --> 30:25.507 that innovation is part of their job 30:25.507 --> 30:29.674 and that we need their creativity and their initiative. 30:30.506 --> 30:32.454 Admiral Zukunft talks about 30:32.454 --> 30:34.490 our greatest qualities as a service, 30:34.490 --> 30:36.490 its on scene initiative. 30:37.691 --> 30:40.113 Well, innovation is all about on scene initiative 30:40.113 --> 30:42.258 for problem solving, as well. 30:42.258 --> 30:44.492 So look at the picture on the left. 30:44.492 --> 30:45.933 Imagine all that creativity, 30:45.933 --> 30:48.487 all that brainpower, we're leaving on the table 30:48.487 --> 30:52.654 if we treat that group of young people as cogs in a machine 30:52.778 --> 30:55.906 rather than original, intuitive thinkers. 30:55.906 --> 30:57.465 You heard earlier from the Admiral. 30:57.465 --> 31:00.575 Admiral Zukunft talked about folks in our boot camp. 31:00.575 --> 31:04.283 Well over 25% have a degree entering boot camp, 31:04.283 --> 31:08.450 and at least one if not many of them have masters degrees. 31:10.739 --> 31:12.601 That picture on the right is a buoy deck crew 31:12.601 --> 31:15.526 from one of our ships that maintains aids to navigation. 31:15.526 --> 31:18.443 Work on buoys is hard, honest work. 31:18.696 --> 31:21.280 It can be punishing, but the crew loved it. 31:21.280 --> 31:22.557 Of course, maintaining those 31:22.557 --> 31:25.772 aids to navigation is vitally important 31:25.772 --> 31:28.523 for the trillions of dollars in commerce 31:28.523 --> 31:30.233 that move on our waters. 31:30.233 --> 31:31.066 Slide. 31:35.411 --> 31:38.245 Work on the buoy deck requires two primary tools, 31:38.245 --> 31:40.222 simple tools that go all the way back 31:40.222 --> 31:42.260 to the dawn of human history, 31:42.260 --> 31:46.427 a big hook to drag a thousand pounds of chain around, 31:46.502 --> 31:50.669 and a maul or sledgehammer to get your point across. 31:51.802 --> 31:54.473 Well, the problem with needing two big hand tools 31:54.473 --> 31:56.720 is that you can't use them together. 31:56.720 --> 31:58.540 You can't hold them at the same time, 31:58.540 --> 32:01.756 and you're cluttering up your workspace with two tools. 32:01.756 --> 32:03.253 Safety might be compromised 32:03.253 --> 32:04.935 when you've got to take your eye off the job 32:04.935 --> 32:07.551 to put one tool down and pick up the other one. 32:07.551 --> 32:10.192 We've been doing this job for almost 100 years, 32:10.192 --> 32:14.359 and then of our first class petty officers gave us this. 32:15.037 --> 32:15.870 Slide. 32:17.885 --> 32:19.218 The hammer hook! 32:19.845 --> 32:22.095 Seems kinda obvious, right? 32:22.216 --> 32:23.892 Well, if it's obvious, 32:23.892 --> 32:27.013 somebody would've thought of it 100 years ago. 32:27.013 --> 32:29.436 Folks in charge of training our buoy deck crews 32:29.436 --> 32:32.264 were blown away, and we're working to get this innovation 32:32.264 --> 32:35.431 out to the fleet as quick as possible. 32:35.461 --> 32:39.628 Now, in the Marine Corps, every marine is a rifleman. 32:39.998 --> 32:43.596 That is part of what makes the Marine Corps so lethal. 32:43.596 --> 32:46.142 If we do this right, with help, 32:46.142 --> 32:49.452 every coast guardsman will be an innovator, 32:49.452 --> 32:52.236 and that's what will make the Coast Guard so relevant 32:52.236 --> 32:54.153 for the next 226 years. 32:55.038 --> 32:55.871 Thank you. 32:55.936 --> 32:58.936 (audience applauds) 33:03.692 --> 33:04.765 - Well, good afternoon. 33:04.765 --> 33:05.598 My name is David Hahn. 33:05.598 --> 33:06.674 I'm the Chief of Naval Research. 33:06.674 --> 33:07.639 First of all, Emily, 33:07.639 --> 33:10.491 thank you for hosting this panel, or moderating the panel, 33:10.491 --> 33:12.459 and to the Navy League, thanks for hosting. 33:12.459 --> 33:16.201 To the fellow panelists up here, thanks for your thoughts. 33:16.201 --> 33:18.962 I'm gonna take a couple themes that you've heard 33:18.962 --> 33:21.545 and add some reinforcing fires. 33:22.939 --> 33:26.966 The Office of Naval Research was stood up back in 1946, 33:26.966 --> 33:29.224 and we had learned some pretty hard lessons 33:29.224 --> 33:33.391 in the run up and execution, the conduct, of World War II. 33:33.403 --> 33:35.046 I come from a submarine background, 33:35.046 --> 33:38.251 and we spent the first two years of that war 33:38.251 --> 33:40.790 not realizing we did not take advantage 33:40.790 --> 33:43.221 of the interwar period as we should have. 33:43.221 --> 33:46.521 So like our amphibious experience in the Pacific, 33:46.521 --> 33:49.652 our submarine experience was not quite as successful 33:49.652 --> 33:51.152 right off the bat. 33:51.517 --> 33:54.039 We did not wanna repeat those mistakes, 33:54.039 --> 33:56.701 and so in 1946, the Congress stood up 33:56.701 --> 34:00.475 this The Office of Naval Research to do one thing, 34:00.475 --> 34:04.275 plan, foster, and encourage scientific research 34:04.275 --> 34:08.282 so that we could maintain a competitive advantage 34:08.282 --> 34:11.695 in the maritime domain for our naval forces, 34:11.695 --> 34:13.204 the Navy and Marine Corps. 34:13.204 --> 34:14.454 That's our job. 34:16.647 --> 34:20.673 We took the magic of the people who had been operating 34:20.673 --> 34:23.664 in this space during that wartime period 34:23.664 --> 34:25.165 and we formed a network. 34:25.165 --> 34:26.503 And that network is made up 34:26.503 --> 34:29.670 of academia, industry, and government. 34:29.689 --> 34:33.856 And that network over the intervening 70 plus years 34:34.179 --> 34:36.550 since the completion of World War II 34:36.550 --> 34:39.883 has done a tremendous job of innovating, 34:40.146 --> 34:44.313 and that network has turned over a couple of times. 34:44.539 --> 34:47.698 So as I took this job a couple of months ago, 34:47.698 --> 34:50.413 I mainly looked at, where are the areas 34:50.413 --> 34:53.000 where our network is operating well 34:53.000 --> 34:54.757 and our network is not operating 34:54.757 --> 34:58.500 as well as it needs to operate to get the job done? 34:58.500 --> 34:59.686 And if you step back and look at 34:59.686 --> 35:03.718 the landscape that we're operating in, it is accelerating, 35:03.718 --> 35:05.487 and it continues to accelerate, 35:05.487 --> 35:09.654 and it's moving exponentially in many areas of technology. 35:09.716 --> 35:12.049 So you'd expect the Chief of Naval Research 35:12.049 --> 35:15.778 to spend a little time up here talking about technology. 35:15.778 --> 35:17.250 Not gonna do that. 35:17.250 --> 35:18.672 I'm gonna talk about process, 35:18.672 --> 35:21.427 because like the Second Sea Lord pointed out, 35:21.427 --> 35:24.997 that process will either help us or it'll hurt us. 35:24.997 --> 35:26.914 And my hypothesis today 35:27.153 --> 35:30.570 would be that that process is in our way, 35:30.766 --> 35:32.450 and many of the pathways 35:32.450 --> 35:35.518 by which we get this wonderful innovation 35:35.518 --> 35:38.648 from that secret sauce that we've got, 35:38.648 --> 35:40.034 this network of people 35:40.034 --> 35:43.403 across industry, academia, and government 35:43.403 --> 35:45.522 into the hands of sailors and marines, 35:45.522 --> 35:48.439 those pathways are at worst broken, 35:49.073 --> 35:51.490 at best, they're inefficient. 35:52.227 --> 35:55.744 In either case, it's not the result that we are after. 35:55.744 --> 35:58.726 There is an innovation being left on the table. 35:58.726 --> 36:02.421 For us to have to establish a website and a conversation 36:02.421 --> 36:06.486 to come up with the hook hammer after 100 years of doing it, 36:06.486 --> 36:08.011 I think that tells us something about 36:08.011 --> 36:09.967 the systems that we are in charge of, 36:09.967 --> 36:12.023 the processes that we are in charge of, 36:12.023 --> 36:16.028 and that we all participate in, everybody in this room. 36:16.028 --> 36:18.294 We've gotta rethink the way we're doing this, 36:18.294 --> 36:19.247 because the old ways 36:19.247 --> 36:22.474 are not gonna solve the problem going forward. 36:22.474 --> 36:25.017 This is where the naval research enterprise 36:25.017 --> 36:26.434 has an advantage. 36:26.773 --> 36:28.515 As you look at this continuum 36:28.515 --> 36:30.556 of what historically has been looked at 36:30.556 --> 36:34.723 as science and technology investments in projects, 36:35.181 --> 36:36.980 and then you do a handoff 36:36.980 --> 36:40.260 to the research and development side of the business, 36:40.260 --> 36:43.303 and then they do a handoff to some program office 36:43.303 --> 36:45.220 to deliver the product, 36:45.713 --> 36:49.130 that continuum has turned very Byzantine, 36:49.996 --> 36:52.913 very cumbersome, and not effective. 36:53.219 --> 36:55.490 So this is where we can help. 36:55.490 --> 36:57.936 And we can help in a very simple way. 36:57.936 --> 37:01.063 In advance of the requirement that most 37:01.063 --> 37:04.782 of our program managers and program officers work to today, 37:04.782 --> 37:06.766 in advance of that requirement, 37:06.766 --> 37:09.703 we can do all the exploration that we need to do 37:09.703 --> 37:12.620 in terms of technology feasibility. 37:13.177 --> 37:15.270 Does it fit the environment? 37:15.270 --> 37:17.801 Can the marines use it the way they need to use it? 37:17.801 --> 37:20.715 Can the sailors use it the way they need to use it? 37:20.715 --> 37:24.669 And before we put a dollar against a big R requirement, 37:24.669 --> 37:26.975 we can do all the exploration we need. 37:26.975 --> 37:29.283 We've just chosen not to do it that way. 37:29.283 --> 37:30.116 Why? 37:30.241 --> 37:34.408 Because it's been easy that way, and it's been okay. 37:34.672 --> 37:37.422 So that pace does not work today. 37:37.847 --> 37:40.254 That process does not work today. 37:40.254 --> 37:42.995 Those old methods don't work today. 37:42.995 --> 37:46.711 The contracting, the requirements establishments, 37:46.711 --> 37:50.878 the resourcing, none of that fits with today's environment. 37:52.545 --> 37:55.662 So we are embarking inside of my space 37:55.662 --> 37:57.705 in the naval research enterprise 37:57.705 --> 37:59.917 on different ways to do that. 37:59.917 --> 38:03.237 Innovation, in this sense, is not about technology. 38:03.237 --> 38:06.766 It's about process, and it's about putting into evidence 38:06.766 --> 38:09.752 the methods that can work for tomorrow, 38:09.752 --> 38:12.933 because my specific charge as the Chief of Naval Research 38:12.933 --> 38:15.715 is not to worry necessarily about today's Navy, 38:15.715 --> 38:17.453 though I have to worry about that. 38:17.453 --> 38:19.753 Nor is it to worry about tomorrow's Navy. 38:19.753 --> 38:22.226 It's to worry about the Navy after next. 38:22.226 --> 38:24.269 So if we're gonna get to a place 38:24.269 --> 38:28.436 where a directed energy or a hypervelocity projectile 38:28.470 --> 38:32.614 or some other thing is going to help solve our problem, 38:32.614 --> 38:34.752 and it's gonna be merged into the on ramp 38:34.752 --> 38:37.226 of this huge capital investment that we have 38:37.226 --> 38:40.059 in ships and airplanes and people, 38:40.405 --> 38:42.481 we've gotta figure ourselves out, 38:42.481 --> 38:46.525 otherwise we're gonna find that our broken processes 38:46.525 --> 38:48.939 don't allow us to even get there. 38:48.939 --> 38:50.770 So that's where we can come in, 38:50.770 --> 38:53.752 and we're gonna be continuing to work with you 38:53.752 --> 38:55.932 to take a look at how we're doing work 38:55.932 --> 38:59.652 inside of our own house, how we communicate with you, 38:59.652 --> 39:01.963 what are the ways you communicate with us? 39:01.963 --> 39:04.252 And then what I'd like to see 39:04.252 --> 39:08.227 is you communicating with each other in a different way. 39:08.227 --> 39:11.180 There's too many times that we're forced to 39:11.180 --> 39:13.924 deal in a one-on-one conversation with you 39:13.924 --> 39:17.174 because you are looking for the answer. 39:17.467 --> 39:19.417 What do you need, Admiral? 39:19.417 --> 39:20.897 What do you need, General? 39:20.897 --> 39:24.738 What is the requirement that you want us to go satisfy? 39:24.738 --> 39:27.033 Well, the one thing I would guarantee you is that 39:27.033 --> 39:31.200 we will get the articulation of that exactly wrong. 39:31.389 --> 39:32.222 All right? 39:32.398 --> 39:34.706 And that puts us in a bad position, 39:34.706 --> 39:36.529 it puts you in a bad position, 39:36.529 --> 39:38.446 because we're both gonna be disappointed 39:38.446 --> 39:41.703 when we're at the end of that long and windy trail 39:41.703 --> 39:44.177 that's costed taxpayers a lot of money. 39:44.177 --> 39:47.391 So what I'd like to see is this conversation about 39:47.391 --> 39:49.442 what we're doing, how we're doing it, 39:49.442 --> 39:52.011 and why we're doing it, get a lot more robust 39:52.011 --> 39:53.965 on the left hand side of the problem. 39:53.965 --> 39:56.498 And there are some great vehicles to do that, 39:56.498 --> 39:59.419 and great methods that you've heard about today. 39:59.419 --> 40:01.883 I think what the Marine Corps does across the board 40:01.883 --> 40:05.435 is they stitch together this opportunity to innovate 40:05.435 --> 40:08.352 by listening to their war fighters, 40:08.460 --> 40:11.194 to put into practice in an experiment, 40:11.194 --> 40:14.611 to get the 3, 5 out and deploy with gear, 40:15.489 --> 40:18.822 and with CONOPs and with TTP to explore. 40:18.968 --> 40:21.940 That's exactly the kind of thing that we ought to be doing. 40:21.940 --> 40:24.008 We need your help in figuring out, 40:24.008 --> 40:26.982 how do we populate those experiments, 40:26.982 --> 40:29.702 those deployments, those opportunities, 40:29.702 --> 40:31.319 with the right stuff? 40:31.319 --> 40:33.486 And if we do it in eaches, 40:33.971 --> 40:36.459 then we're gonna miss a great opportunity. 40:36.459 --> 40:38.292 Unmanned Warrior 2016, 40:39.409 --> 40:41.703 which the Admiral put in evidence 40:41.703 --> 40:43.953 on the video there earlier, 40:44.166 --> 40:47.083 that was an exceptional opportunity 40:48.440 --> 40:51.474 for industry and war fighters to come together. 40:51.474 --> 40:53.474 And I will tell you that 40:53.494 --> 40:56.827 ONR participated robustly in that event. 40:57.739 --> 40:59.469 And it was wonderful to see 40:59.469 --> 41:02.234 industry sitting next to each other, 41:02.234 --> 41:05.198 plugging their gear into an operational network, 41:05.198 --> 41:09.365 providing real time data from their individual vehicles, 41:09.433 --> 41:13.232 and populating a common operating picture that those folks 41:13.232 --> 41:15.458 under the auspices of an operational exercise 41:15.458 --> 41:16.875 were acting upon. 41:17.170 --> 41:21.337 I don't think anybody sitting in any of those rooms, 41:22.705 --> 41:25.038 command centers, work sites, 41:25.198 --> 41:27.544 not one of 'em was worried about, 41:27.544 --> 41:30.951 "Hey, how is my IP getting treated today? 41:30.951 --> 41:33.490 "Hey, what's my fee look like today?" 41:33.490 --> 41:34.704 None of that happened. 41:34.704 --> 41:36.707 Those people were working together 41:36.707 --> 41:39.342 and put all of that in evidence, 41:39.342 --> 41:42.755 and they get those things wet, and we learned a lot. 41:42.755 --> 41:45.052 That's the kind of behavior that we need to have 41:45.052 --> 41:48.765 across all of the teammates that are in this room. 41:48.765 --> 41:50.502 And that's not just here in the United States. 41:50.502 --> 41:54.252 That's across all of our allies and partners. 41:54.470 --> 41:57.751 And if we do that, there's nobody who can stand in our way. 41:57.751 --> 42:00.433 Our challenge is, how do we do that enough times 42:00.433 --> 42:02.764 so that our muscle memory changes 42:02.764 --> 42:05.243 and we're not doing the things we do today 42:05.243 --> 42:07.024 the way we do 'em today? 42:07.024 --> 42:08.995 So that's my challenge to you. 42:08.995 --> 42:10.915 I am your teammate in this. 42:10.915 --> 42:14.475 My organization at the The Office of Naval Research 42:14.475 --> 42:15.730 and through the Naval Research Lab 42:15.730 --> 42:18.483 and across the whole extended NR&DE, 42:18.483 --> 42:21.898 that's the Naval Research and Development Enterprise, 42:21.898 --> 42:25.741 all the warfare centers, we're all in this with you. 42:25.741 --> 42:27.261 We're not in competition with you. 42:27.261 --> 42:28.524 We're on the same team. 42:28.524 --> 42:30.161 So use us as you need to. 42:30.161 --> 42:31.362 Reach out to us. 42:31.362 --> 42:33.470 If we're not paying attention, 42:33.470 --> 42:36.288 take the hook hammer and beat us over the head with it 42:36.288 --> 42:39.704 until we pay attention to you, because you have the answers. 42:39.704 --> 42:42.867 We're just not communicating well enough with you. 42:42.867 --> 42:44.306 And I do look forward to your questions, 42:44.306 --> 42:45.984 and thank you very much. 42:45.984 --> 42:48.984 (audience applauds) 42:52.513 --> 42:55.422 - Well, as the hook for this panel, 42:55.422 --> 42:59.529 I wanna once again just thank Emily and the Navy League 42:59.529 --> 43:01.743 for hosting this great opportunity 43:01.743 --> 43:04.414 for us all to talk about innovation. 43:04.414 --> 43:06.063 Innovation sometimes means 43:06.063 --> 43:07.548 different things to different people, 43:07.548 --> 43:08.817 and you may have heard a little bit 43:08.817 --> 43:12.204 of nuance and difference about that as we all talked, 43:12.204 --> 43:15.341 but I hope one of the common themes that you heard in this, 43:15.341 --> 43:17.224 a little bit of it, you may have heard that word, 43:17.224 --> 43:18.939 the Byzantine process or whatever, 43:18.939 --> 43:21.415 but I hope you didn't concentrate too much on that 43:21.415 --> 43:24.216 and concentrated more on the opportunities. 43:24.216 --> 43:27.696 And I would recast the opportunities as a simple phrase, 43:27.696 --> 43:28.946 catch the wave. 43:29.215 --> 43:31.754 And I hope that's what everyone is sensing from this, 43:31.754 --> 43:35.217 is that there is a lot of inertia in this lane, 43:35.217 --> 43:39.235 and we are moving, and we want you on board with the wave. 43:39.235 --> 43:43.402 And to me, that's what this is very much really all about. 43:43.975 --> 43:46.755 I think we're on an exciting transformational journey, 43:46.755 --> 43:49.719 and it's beyond merely enabling the war fighter 43:49.719 --> 43:52.224 to one of providing new capabilities 43:52.224 --> 43:54.474 to war fighting commanders. 43:54.511 --> 43:57.539 And I think the Navy, and I'd say the Navy Marine Corps, 43:57.539 --> 44:00.777 the maritime team, teams, because I'd classify that 44:00.777 --> 44:04.944 as all the folks that are working together as partners here, 44:04.977 --> 44:08.982 that we are well on the way to offering a secure logistics. 44:08.982 --> 44:09.976 Now, I'm gonna talk 44:09.976 --> 44:13.788 a little bit about the logistics piece of innovation, 44:13.788 --> 44:16.298 because that is part of what I do, 44:16.298 --> 44:18.778 but I'm not gonna exclusively talk about that. 44:18.778 --> 44:20.044 It's really in three areas. 44:20.044 --> 44:22.039 You can see it up there on the slide. 44:22.039 --> 44:24.033 I think that the three aspects 44:24.033 --> 44:26.783 are people, ideas, actualization, 44:27.415 --> 44:29.292 and you should have picked up 44:29.292 --> 44:31.237 through everyone else talking about it, 44:31.237 --> 44:33.217 everyone else is centering on 44:33.217 --> 44:36.291 much of the same three big areas on it. 44:36.291 --> 44:39.513 So let me first focus on the people piece, 44:39.513 --> 44:43.680 and that's, you see, too, the pictures off to the left. 44:43.730 --> 44:47.230 I think there's no monopoly on good ideas. 44:47.901 --> 44:50.637 Everyone has an inherent responsibility 44:50.637 --> 44:52.887 in all of the sea services, 44:53.731 --> 44:56.031 and that's government, industry, and academia, 44:56.031 --> 44:57.990 all the way down to the deck plate. 44:57.990 --> 45:00.745 And the hammer hook is a great example of 45:00.745 --> 45:02.751 that has to go all the way down 45:02.751 --> 45:04.599 to those who are on the deck plate, 45:04.599 --> 45:07.599 because, in maritime nautical terms, 45:07.812 --> 45:11.216 if you're closest to the problem, closest to the deck plate, 45:11.216 --> 45:13.563 you're also closest to the solution. 45:13.563 --> 45:15.926 So we do need to listen to those things. 45:15.926 --> 45:18.270 In fact, actually that picture that's up there at the top 45:18.270 --> 45:20.139 and you see everybody in civilian clothes up there, 45:20.139 --> 45:23.483 but that was actually a high velocity learning event 45:23.483 --> 45:26.933 that we just ran 10 days ago up in Boston. 45:26.933 --> 45:29.722 It was focused on reinventing the shipyards. 45:29.722 --> 45:33.889 And we brought together a team of 32 different participants. 45:34.427 --> 45:36.235 We call that high velocity learning event, 45:36.235 --> 45:37.977 you might call it shark tank, 45:37.977 --> 45:39.041 because at the end of the day, 45:39.041 --> 45:43.192 what we did is those four teams that they put together, 45:43.192 --> 45:46.665 we had a competition, and the runoff of that competition 45:46.665 --> 45:48.807 to see who had the best ideas. 45:48.807 --> 45:51.550 And I can tell you that there were thousands of ideas 45:51.550 --> 45:54.043 that were created during a two day event, 45:54.043 --> 45:55.428 two and a half day event. 45:55.428 --> 45:57.284 And only the best from each of the teams 45:57.284 --> 45:59.617 was presented to the judges, 45:59.686 --> 46:02.514 as we had to do this rapid fire final presentation, 46:02.514 --> 46:04.456 and then judging of that. 46:04.456 --> 46:05.764 It was pretty neat and exciting 46:05.764 --> 46:07.930 that what I thought came out of that 46:07.930 --> 46:12.097 is that we have the potential to have a new era of, 46:12.147 --> 46:14.463 and I'll paraphrase this to the way 46:14.463 --> 46:16.731 Tom Friedman talks about innovation. 46:16.731 --> 46:18.932 He talks about innovation from the top down 46:18.932 --> 46:21.515 as orderly, but not very smart. 46:21.989 --> 46:24.313 He talks about innovation from below 46:24.313 --> 46:27.428 as being chaotic, but actually pretty smart. 46:27.428 --> 46:29.432 So if you meet in the middle, 46:29.432 --> 46:32.432 you end up having smart and orderly, 46:32.773 --> 46:35.001 and you can move forward pretty dramatically. 46:35.001 --> 46:39.084 I think that is in essence what we saw with that. 46:39.473 --> 46:43.492 I'm gonna brag a little bit actually about Admiral Hahn's, 46:43.492 --> 46:46.307 one of his folks, at the Naval Research Labs, 46:46.307 --> 46:48.226 who has done some absolutely great work. 46:48.226 --> 46:50.984 She's a research chemist, and what did she do? 46:50.984 --> 46:52.711 She actually figured out 46:52.711 --> 46:55.710 how to take hydrogens out of seawater, 46:55.710 --> 46:59.518 carbon out of the atmosphere, put those things together, 46:59.518 --> 47:03.138 and actually you can see those two little vials there. 47:03.138 --> 47:04.763 These are the vials. 47:04.763 --> 47:06.680 Seawater into jet fuel. 47:08.006 --> 47:09.020 It's like alchemy. 47:09.020 --> 47:10.713 Seawater into jet fuel. 47:10.713 --> 47:13.261 Now, we're still working on it, but just think about 47:13.261 --> 47:16.594 how that changes the nature of logistics 47:16.736 --> 47:18.687 for us and for the Navy. 47:18.687 --> 47:21.269 And to me, that is a perfect example 47:21.269 --> 47:23.295 of what we call the purple line of effort 47:23.295 --> 47:26.533 about partnerships for the Navy, Navy-Marine Corps team, 47:26.533 --> 47:29.012 where that purple line of effort is about the partnerships, 47:29.012 --> 47:32.275 whether it's about academia, whether it's about our labs, 47:32.275 --> 47:35.253 whether it's about our sister services, 47:35.253 --> 47:38.753 and or with our friends and partner navies 47:39.246 --> 47:42.163 that we work with every single day. 47:42.486 --> 47:44.744 So let me shift gears a little bit to ideas, 47:44.744 --> 47:46.494 the second big thing. 47:47.192 --> 47:49.859 The picture on the top up there, 47:49.896 --> 47:51.464 it's the artist formerly known as 47:51.464 --> 47:55.131 the Joint High Speed Vessel, now called EPF, 47:55.215 --> 47:57.914 a ship that the way I would describe it is, 47:57.914 --> 48:00.831 it has a tremendous amount of cube. 48:01.706 --> 48:03.244 Cube is volumetric volume 48:03.244 --> 48:05.896 that actually isn't necessarily filled with anything, 48:05.896 --> 48:06.946 but it can be. 48:06.946 --> 48:10.482 It can transport goods from one place to another, 48:10.482 --> 48:14.649 and it certainly helps us out from a logistics standpoint. 48:15.266 --> 48:16.986 But just imagine if you could be able to put 48:16.986 --> 48:18.241 a hospital inside of that, 48:18.241 --> 48:19.877 or you could be able to put all sorts 48:19.877 --> 48:22.533 of different adaptive force packages inside. 48:22.533 --> 48:25.487 Think about how that changes our agility, 48:25.487 --> 48:29.154 maneuverability, and potentiality lethality. 48:29.734 --> 48:33.901 So in some measure, that short cycles that whole thing 48:33.907 --> 48:36.745 that we were talking about Byzantine process, 48:36.745 --> 48:39.553 because we can be able to experiment 48:39.553 --> 48:43.020 with those different adaptive force packages, as we have. 48:43.020 --> 48:44.744 And you can see on the bottom there, 48:44.744 --> 48:46.499 that's another example of it. 48:46.499 --> 48:49.220 That's the ESD-1, the Montford Point. 48:49.220 --> 48:51.477 And initially, that ship was designed 48:51.477 --> 48:54.542 to just be a part of the preposition force. 48:54.542 --> 48:57.423 Now, it has a mission to do with regard to preposition, 48:57.423 --> 48:59.469 and we will always do that mission, 48:59.469 --> 49:01.998 but think about what else it might be able to do. 49:01.998 --> 49:04.779 You can see LCACs there are going off the deck of it. 49:04.779 --> 49:08.946 So what does that do for the potential future of sea basing? 49:09.257 --> 49:13.424 I would suggest that it changes the nature of the game. 49:14.003 --> 49:15.492 So let me shift gears and go over 49:15.492 --> 49:18.947 to that final category over there on actualization. 49:18.947 --> 49:22.512 And right now, I'm gonna do a very shameless advertisement 49:22.512 --> 49:25.095 for our booth down there, 1453. 49:25.460 --> 49:27.610 Go to your brochures and everything, 49:27.610 --> 49:30.501 and go take a look at what we're talking about 49:30.501 --> 49:31.736 in terms of the actualization, 49:31.736 --> 49:34.686 because remember what I said about catching the wave? 49:34.686 --> 49:38.853 It's gotta go beyond ideas into actualized advancements. 49:39.009 --> 49:41.058 And I'm not waiting for the Byzantine process. 49:41.058 --> 49:42.905 We are not waiting for the Byzantine process. 49:42.905 --> 49:43.820 And I think you can see 49:43.820 --> 49:46.972 across all the services represented here, nobody is. 49:46.972 --> 49:48.475 The Royal Navy is not waiting. 49:48.475 --> 49:49.709 We're not waiting. 49:49.709 --> 49:51.837 And that allows us to actually, I think, 49:51.837 --> 49:55.420 move pretty fast in areas like 3D printing, 49:55.494 --> 49:58.782 commonly known more broadly as additive manufacturing. 49:58.782 --> 50:00.719 And we're doing a number of things there 50:00.719 --> 50:03.802 that I think are very, very exciting. 50:04.459 --> 50:07.280 They're exciting because it puts us on a journey 50:07.280 --> 50:10.517 potentially towards a much more self sustaining ship, 50:10.517 --> 50:13.544 and to me, that's part of a quantum leap forward. 50:13.544 --> 50:16.683 And I think that unleashes logistics operations 50:16.683 --> 50:18.092 in a very different way. 50:18.092 --> 50:20.745 It rewrites our supply chain management. 50:20.745 --> 50:22.328 And we've actually, 50:22.689 --> 50:24.504 as you can see in the bottom right there, 50:24.504 --> 50:25.953 and this is part of the partnership 50:25.953 --> 50:28.422 between the Royal Navy and the United States, 50:28.422 --> 50:30.750 for those that were of the naval audience here, 50:30.750 --> 50:33.923 I see a number from the fellow navies that we work with, 50:33.923 --> 50:36.721 and I know a number of you probably saw 50:36.721 --> 50:38.726 up at the International Seapower Symposium, 50:38.726 --> 50:41.287 we flew some unmanned aerial vehicles up there. 50:41.287 --> 50:43.651 that was a great partnership, not just a partnership 50:43.651 --> 50:46.225 between the Royal Navy and the United States Navy, it was, 50:46.225 --> 50:48.217 but, oh by the way, between universities, 50:48.217 --> 50:51.661 universities in England, in Great Britain, 50:51.661 --> 50:53.934 and universities in the United States of America, 50:53.934 --> 50:55.728 working together, working with sailors, 50:55.728 --> 50:58.895 working with trying to be able to have 50:59.914 --> 51:03.499 unmanned aerial vehicles that were partly produced with US 51:03.499 --> 51:05.984 and partly produced with Royal Navy parts all put together. 51:05.984 --> 51:08.456 And voila, we were able to fly it. 51:08.456 --> 51:11.234 So that's a step forward into the future 51:11.234 --> 51:13.959 that you can potentially imagine on things. 51:13.959 --> 51:17.675 So I hope what you see in this in closing is that 51:17.675 --> 51:19.508 we need to foster three things, 51:19.508 --> 51:22.686 good ideas, innovation, and collaboration. 51:22.686 --> 51:24.984 I think those are the things that, 51:24.984 --> 51:26.955 whether it's the public sector, private sector, 51:26.955 --> 51:29.975 academia, or international partnerships 51:29.975 --> 51:34.142 that will get us to that new ground, that new land. 51:34.181 --> 51:36.971 I don't think we need to fear failure. 51:36.971 --> 51:39.466 Now, obviously, failure shouldn't be our objective. 51:39.466 --> 51:43.176 Sometimes when you do do prototyping, things like that, 51:43.176 --> 51:44.757 it doesn't always turn out, 51:44.757 --> 51:47.270 but we must be tolerant when a well thought out plan 51:47.270 --> 51:48.972 doesn't meet our prediction. 51:48.972 --> 51:51.286 And frankly, that's what learning is all about. 51:51.286 --> 51:53.450 That's what high velocity learning is. 51:53.450 --> 51:55.808 And we must be willing to try, 51:55.808 --> 51:57.473 and our cycle of learning must be 51:57.473 --> 52:00.479 rapid enough and tight enough that we don't have to say, 52:00.479 --> 52:04.068 "We're locked into a Byzantine process," 'cause we're not. 52:04.068 --> 52:07.818 So early failures are on the road to success. 52:08.205 --> 52:12.122 It's true that you won't fail if you don't try, 52:12.591 --> 52:15.000 but it's equally true that you can never be 52:15.000 --> 52:19.011 a successful, positive disruptor if you don't try at all. 52:19.011 --> 52:21.565 So I'll leave you with one more quote that I often cite. 52:21.565 --> 52:23.275 It's actually from Mark Twain. 52:23.275 --> 52:24.964 And he said, "History doesn't repeat itself, 52:24.964 --> 52:26.580 "but it sure does rhyme." 52:26.580 --> 52:29.976 And we should all be good students of history. 52:29.976 --> 52:33.773 Be mindful of the mistakes and successes of our ancestors. 52:33.773 --> 52:35.493 You go back to, and when we were on the deck 52:35.493 --> 52:37.699 of the Constitution up there in Boston, 52:37.699 --> 52:39.669 that's where we did our presentations 52:39.669 --> 52:42.295 for that learning event, I was struck with the fact that 52:42.295 --> 52:45.488 when we had an extraordinarily nascent Navy, 52:45.488 --> 52:46.821 we did not fear. 52:47.744 --> 52:49.704 We did not fear to dare. 52:49.704 --> 52:50.734 We were daring. 52:50.734 --> 52:52.396 Well, we're still a very young nation. 52:52.396 --> 52:53.463 We're only 200 years old. 52:53.463 --> 52:55.653 There are a lot of navies a lot older than us. 52:55.653 --> 52:57.545 And I think that daring still 52:57.545 --> 53:00.628 is in our character to be able to do. 53:00.758 --> 53:03.508 And with that, I think that if we 53:05.740 --> 53:07.930 don't place too much confidence 53:07.930 --> 53:10.253 in the constancy of the lessons of history, 53:10.253 --> 53:12.900 but look to the potential that we have out there 53:12.900 --> 53:15.766 and what changes we can make, and I think you saw some 53:15.766 --> 53:19.933 from the deck plate, that hook hammer, incredible, 53:20.253 --> 53:23.524 but let's unlock and unleash that, and I think we are, 53:23.524 --> 53:26.281 and we're on that journey, and catch the wave. 53:26.281 --> 53:27.114 Thank you. 53:27.514 --> 53:30.514 (audience applauds) 53:32.878 --> 53:33.711 - Okay. 53:33.711 --> 53:35.115 Let me just make sure my mic is on. 53:35.115 --> 53:35.948 Okay. 53:35.948 --> 53:37.961 So while we wait for some folks, 53:37.961 --> 53:39.928 I know that you have questions, 53:39.928 --> 53:42.013 so while we wait for someone to come up to the microphone, 53:42.013 --> 53:45.675 we have microphones on the sides of aisles there, 53:45.675 --> 53:46.983 I just wanted to let you know that 53:46.983 --> 53:50.210 sometimes I know when you hear senior leaders 53:50.210 --> 53:52.933 talking about how we need innovation, 53:52.933 --> 53:54.571 some of the challenges that we have, 53:54.571 --> 53:56.604 sometimes it's hard, especially for small businesses, 53:56.604 --> 53:57.541 to figure out, "Okay, well, 53:57.541 --> 53:58.732 "how do I get my foot in the door? 53:58.732 --> 53:59.766 "I've got a great idea. 53:59.766 --> 54:00.619 "How do I get to them? 54:00.619 --> 54:02.006 "How do I tell them?" 54:02.006 --> 54:04.002 Small business professionals, 54:04.002 --> 54:07.222 for the Department of the Navy, are your foot in the door. 54:07.222 --> 54:08.519 That's how we can help. 54:08.519 --> 54:10.017 And there's a small business professional 54:10.017 --> 54:13.472 at each of the Department of Navy's 10 buying commands. 54:13.472 --> 54:14.972 And you can come in and talk to us, 54:14.972 --> 54:18.281 and we can help match you up with a customer, 54:18.281 --> 54:21.539 or help get you in to see the right folks, 54:21.539 --> 54:23.752 and we can help make sure that you're ready 54:23.752 --> 54:27.919 for that presentation, because you typically have, 54:29.505 --> 54:32.043 the first impression that you wanna create is a good one, 54:32.043 --> 54:34.674 and we can help you with doing that. 54:34.674 --> 54:36.942 So especially if you're a small business, 54:36.942 --> 54:38.887 go see your small business professional. 54:38.887 --> 54:40.497 And the way to find us is just google, 54:40.497 --> 54:43.007 "Department of Navy small business," 54:43.007 --> 54:44.750 and our website will come up. 54:44.750 --> 54:46.224 And I will also leave some cards 54:46.224 --> 54:48.253 here at the table at the end of this. 54:48.253 --> 54:49.836 So, first question. 54:50.447 --> 54:51.280 - [Sydney] Hi. 54:51.280 --> 54:53.730 Sydney Freedberg, Breaking Defense. 54:53.730 --> 54:57.509 A question wide open, although I think the logistics aspect 54:57.509 --> 55:00.092 is probably a very fertile one. 55:00.987 --> 55:04.985 Distributed operations has been a theme that's emerged 55:04.985 --> 55:06.509 in naval thinking, generally, 55:06.509 --> 55:09.234 but been mentioned a bunch at this conference. 55:09.234 --> 55:13.401 What are some of the hammer hooks of distributed operations, 55:16.445 --> 55:19.768 low hanging fruit things that you guys are looking at 55:19.768 --> 55:21.778 that could make it potentially easier 55:21.778 --> 55:24.442 for a small unit to communicate, to move, 55:24.442 --> 55:27.951 to keep itself sustained, in these new concepts 55:27.951 --> 55:31.201 which tax a lot of our current systems? 55:33.104 --> 55:34.271 - Does anyone? 55:34.290 --> 55:36.447 - I'll take a first stab at that one. 55:36.447 --> 55:40.016 So at the end of the day, I think that when you look at 55:40.016 --> 55:43.213 the responsibilities of the forces represented up here, 55:43.213 --> 55:46.464 the Navy, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, and our allies, 55:46.464 --> 55:48.725 we've got a global responsibility. 55:48.725 --> 55:51.275 There's not enough ship to go around. 55:51.275 --> 55:52.370 So the notion that we're gonna 55:52.370 --> 55:54.559 be distributed and interoperable 55:54.559 --> 55:58.142 across all these stewards of those vessels, 56:00.647 --> 56:02.230 it's not a new one. 56:02.972 --> 56:06.889 The specific methods by which we exercise that, 56:08.020 --> 56:11.687 I think we need to spend a little more time, 56:12.485 --> 56:14.723 maybe 80% of the time, not 20% of the time, 56:14.723 --> 56:17.687 thinking about it and doing it and not talking about it. 56:17.687 --> 56:20.429 Because every time we turn around, 56:20.429 --> 56:24.033 if you know how a spiderweb constructs their web, 56:24.033 --> 56:25.757 it's a lot easier for you to cut it down. 56:25.757 --> 56:28.986 So I would say just leave it at the fact that 56:28.986 --> 56:33.057 we are gonna be distributed, we are gonna be lethal, 56:33.057 --> 56:36.780 and how we do that, we'll keep that inside the family. 56:36.780 --> 56:37.613 Thanks. 56:40.479 --> 56:41.456 - [Emily] Sir? 56:41.456 --> 56:42.289 - [Zach] Thanks. 56:42.289 --> 56:44.206 Zach Biggs with Jane's. 56:44.474 --> 56:45.470 So a couple years ago 56:45.470 --> 56:48.694 when Al Shaffer was still OSD's R and D head, 56:48.694 --> 56:50.751 he cut funding to the service labs 56:50.751 --> 56:52.051 and instead gave it to DARPA. 56:52.051 --> 56:53.205 And his explanation was, 56:53.205 --> 56:56.202 "Until the service labs learn how to take more risks, 56:56.202 --> 56:58.312 "I'm gonna give it to DARPA." 56:58.312 --> 57:00.457 A lot of what you're talking about is acceptance of risk, 57:00.457 --> 57:03.993 accepting some of the potential for failure. 57:03.993 --> 57:07.249 Do you think there is a broader cultural need 57:07.249 --> 57:11.416 to change the thought process within the institution? 57:11.721 --> 57:12.731 Do you think you're already there? 57:12.731 --> 57:14.302 Do you think that change has already occurred 57:14.302 --> 57:16.971 and innovation has taken root to some degree? 57:16.971 --> 57:17.975 Or do you think there's something else 57:17.975 --> 57:22.142 that needs to come from top down to cause an adjustment? 57:23.930 --> 57:26.513 - Again, I'll jump at that one. 57:27.251 --> 57:31.418 My sense is, it's already here, so catch the wave, right? 57:31.894 --> 57:33.561 We don't suffer from 57:33.652 --> 57:36.980 lack of imagination and lack of innovation. 57:36.980 --> 57:37.813 It's here. 57:38.701 --> 57:39.778 It's pent up. 57:39.778 --> 57:42.274 We have a pent up supply of this stuff. 57:42.274 --> 57:46.206 And our ability to get it out there is what's hurting us. 57:46.206 --> 57:49.930 So I think some of the 806 and 804 authorities 57:49.930 --> 57:51.454 that the Congress has provided 57:51.454 --> 57:53.194 as the General indicated earlier, 57:53.194 --> 57:55.270 that provides some of the pathways. 57:55.270 --> 57:57.057 It's up to us to go exercise that. 57:57.057 --> 57:58.292 So it's behaviors, 57:58.292 --> 58:00.102 and we just need to get at those behaviors 58:00.102 --> 58:02.439 and put in evidence the fact that 58:02.439 --> 58:04.473 there's another hundred hammer hooks standing by. 58:04.473 --> 58:06.037 We just gotta figure out how we get 'em out there. 58:06.037 --> 58:07.979 So that's up to us, but thanks for the question. 58:07.979 --> 58:08.941 - [Emily] Admiral Woodcock? 58:08.941 --> 58:09.774 - Yeah. 58:09.774 --> 58:12.906 I think there's an intellectual thing. 58:12.906 --> 58:15.438 Defense is fundamentally an introvert organization 58:15.438 --> 58:17.193 which is to begat itself. 58:17.193 --> 58:19.776 So it's all about doing itself. 58:19.978 --> 58:23.395 The challenge for us is to set behaviors, 58:23.965 --> 58:25.249 and therefore processes, 58:25.249 --> 58:28.707 and reward that which operates differently. 58:28.707 --> 58:30.469 If we do today what we did yesterday, 58:30.469 --> 58:32.802 tomorrow, today will arrive. 58:32.921 --> 58:34.749 We've gotta change the loop, and to do that, 58:34.749 --> 58:36.508 we have to remember that we can't always be 58:36.508 --> 58:38.425 an introvert organization. 58:38.425 --> 58:41.671 History is a great thing as long as it's not an anchor. 58:41.671 --> 58:44.220 It's a great thing as long as it doesn't determine 58:44.220 --> 58:45.053 what you will do. 58:45.053 --> 58:46.914 So things like branch structures, for instance, 58:46.914 --> 58:50.423 are things which are innate in our organizations in here. 58:50.423 --> 58:53.004 We have fixed branch structures that go back forever. 58:53.004 --> 58:54.732 Change those, the system collapses. 58:54.732 --> 58:57.017 Don't change those, and the system will collapse. 58:57.017 --> 58:58.339 You have to change. 58:58.339 --> 58:59.463 We have to have engineers now. 58:59.463 --> 59:00.988 We used to have sailing masters. 59:00.988 --> 59:01.821 Change it. 59:01.821 --> 59:03.247 Gunners, missile techs. 59:03.247 --> 59:04.324 It all changes. 59:04.324 --> 59:05.914 We have to understand that. 59:05.914 --> 59:07.245 So I think the important bit 59:07.245 --> 59:09.733 in terms of delivering innovation, truly delivering it, 59:09.733 --> 59:10.991 is to remember that we're a system 59:10.991 --> 59:12.769 which likes to invent itself. 59:12.769 --> 59:15.218 Therefore, put in things which stop it inventing itself, 59:15.218 --> 59:18.720 and you will start to change the innovative process. 59:18.720 --> 59:21.015 - I would add that history doesn't repeat itself, 59:21.015 --> 59:22.182 but it rhymes. 59:24.001 --> 59:26.251 It was Mark Twain's saying. 59:26.688 --> 59:28.855 But I'll tell you, I think 59:29.271 --> 59:33.438 there is a responsibility of senior leaders to inspire. 59:33.447 --> 59:34.952 But along with the inspiration 59:34.952 --> 59:36.304 that the senior leaders provide, 59:36.304 --> 59:38.462 we have to provide opportunities and venues 59:38.462 --> 59:40.712 for those who are out there 59:40.751 --> 59:42.964 with great ideas at the deck plate 59:42.964 --> 59:44.923 to be able to bring those to the fore. 59:44.923 --> 59:47.195 So again, that's how you'd meet in the middle. 59:47.195 --> 59:50.460 And I'll tell you, there's a lot of pent up ideas 59:50.460 --> 59:53.237 that really can, I think, take us to the next level, 59:53.237 --> 59:55.627 and it's just a matter of finding the opportunities, 59:55.627 --> 59:57.316 and then help guiding the people 59:57.316 --> 01:00:00.649 to be able to then have that hammer hook 01:00:00.822 --> 01:00:03.403 or something else like a Tru Clip 01:00:03.403 --> 01:00:06.445 that was invented by a second class petty officer, 01:00:06.445 --> 01:00:07.695 digital thread. 01:00:08.491 --> 01:00:10.758 That solves a problem with walkie talkies. 01:00:10.758 --> 01:00:12.762 This is the actual one, but nobody can see it, 01:00:12.762 --> 01:00:14.429 so I have a big one. 01:00:14.954 --> 01:00:17.412 But this actually saves $2,000 01:00:17.412 --> 01:00:20.742 every single time that a radio doesn't break 01:00:20.742 --> 01:00:23.325 because the antenna breaks off. 01:00:23.462 --> 01:00:25.697 Invented by a second class petty officer. 01:00:25.697 --> 01:00:27.617 Needless to say, her idea 01:00:27.617 --> 01:00:30.617 is working its way around the fleet. 01:00:31.733 --> 01:00:32.983 - [Emily] Okay. 01:00:33.136 --> 01:00:33.969 - [Matthew] Hello. 01:00:33.969 --> 01:00:35.416 Matthew Cole, Naval Service Worker Center, 01:00:35.416 --> 01:00:36.975 Port Hueneme Division. 01:00:36.975 --> 01:00:38.201 So when you start talking about 01:00:38.201 --> 01:00:40.751 innovation and operational excellence, a lot of the systems 01:00:40.751 --> 01:00:42.290 that you're talking about or wind up talking about 01:00:42.290 --> 01:00:43.445 are software systems. 01:00:43.445 --> 01:00:45.447 And when you start using innovative software systems, 01:00:45.447 --> 01:00:49.458 a lot of times you're relying on large aggregated data sets, 01:00:49.458 --> 01:00:52.677 which in turn presents major information security problems 01:00:52.677 --> 01:00:53.764 and things like that. 01:00:53.764 --> 01:00:55.886 So my question is, to the panelists, 01:00:55.886 --> 01:00:57.430 what do you think, or to what extent, 01:00:57.430 --> 01:00:59.250 will our traditional notions of data security 01:00:59.250 --> 01:01:01.517 have to change or give way in order to unleash 01:01:01.517 --> 01:01:03.229 some of that innovation that you're talking about 01:01:03.229 --> 01:01:06.229 with software systems in particular? 01:01:08.420 --> 01:01:09.933 - Well, I'm happy to start. 01:01:09.933 --> 01:01:11.487 I think we need to be really careful. 01:01:11.487 --> 01:01:12.467 We have to understand, 01:01:12.467 --> 01:01:15.531 the volume of data that can be processed is almost infinite, 01:01:15.531 --> 01:01:18.462 so the less security you have in understanding that data, 01:01:18.462 --> 01:01:19.978 the more risk you take. 01:01:19.978 --> 01:01:24.145 So we have to be really careful that we understand precisely 01:01:24.992 --> 01:01:27.422 where the data is and who manages that data. 01:01:27.422 --> 01:01:28.997 And therefore, you can then start to focus 01:01:28.997 --> 01:01:31.232 on delivering from that data which you have available 01:01:31.232 --> 01:01:32.440 to you what you need to know. 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:34.521 But you should be harvesting others' data. 01:01:34.521 --> 01:01:36.189 It's the harvesting of other people's data 01:01:36.189 --> 01:01:37.940 that will give us our operational edge. 01:01:37.940 --> 01:01:40.011 So we should be very tight on our securities. 01:01:40.011 --> 01:01:42.242 We should be really clear on what information we give. 01:01:42.242 --> 01:01:44.193 We should work less in the open domain 01:01:44.193 --> 01:01:46.443 and more in closed domains. 01:01:46.478 --> 01:01:48.953 Why would tell people the answer to the question? 01:01:48.953 --> 01:01:50.536 We should not tell the answer to the question, 01:01:50.536 --> 01:01:51.902 but the answer to the question exists. 01:01:51.902 --> 01:01:53.666 If you want to know when the Russian Navy is deploying, 01:01:53.666 --> 01:01:54.752 go to Facebook. 01:01:54.752 --> 01:01:55.679 It tells you. 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.015 If you wanna know what we're doing, go to Facebook. 01:01:58.015 --> 01:01:58.848 It tells us. 01:01:58.848 --> 01:02:00.252 So we need to get off Facebook ourselves 01:02:00.252 --> 01:02:04.002 and go to Facebook and look at everyone else. 01:02:04.192 --> 01:02:05.109 It's there. 01:02:05.871 --> 01:02:06.930 Data is amazing. 01:02:06.930 --> 01:02:08.272 If we can start to analyze it 01:02:08.272 --> 01:02:09.732 and then apply machine learning 01:02:09.732 --> 01:02:11.497 to data information that flows, 01:02:11.497 --> 01:02:13.156 we should be able to answer our risk questions 01:02:13.156 --> 01:02:14.453 and we should be able to understand 01:02:14.453 --> 01:02:16.048 our opponent's risk questions. 01:02:16.048 --> 01:02:17.548 It's all in data. 01:02:20.021 --> 01:02:21.675 - Anyone else wanna comment? 01:02:21.675 --> 01:02:22.719 - Who could top that? 01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:25.094 (audience laughs) 01:02:25.094 --> 01:02:25.927 - Yes, sir. 01:02:25.927 --> 01:02:26.760 - [Patrick] Thanks. 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:28.694 Patrick Tucker with Defense One for Admiral Hahn. 01:02:28.694 --> 01:02:30.746 I wonder if you could discuss very briefly 01:02:30.746 --> 01:02:33.749 what you talked earlier about, the exponential rate 01:02:33.749 --> 01:02:35.623 of technological development and improvement, 01:02:35.623 --> 01:02:38.484 and I wonder if you could tell us what area of technology 01:02:38.484 --> 01:02:41.164 you'd really like to focus on now at ONR 01:02:41.164 --> 01:02:45.331 where you see the most potential for beneficial disruption. 01:02:45.499 --> 01:02:48.414 And Lieutenant General Walsh, on that, 01:02:48.414 --> 01:02:51.129 what area of technology do you see 01:02:51.129 --> 01:02:53.975 as potentially the most disruptive to war fighting 01:02:53.975 --> 01:02:55.979 in the years ahead as you get together folks 01:02:55.979 --> 01:02:59.154 to actually war game out how they interact with things. 01:02:59.154 --> 01:03:00.537 Where is the biggest minus sign 01:03:00.537 --> 01:03:01.683 and where is the biggest plus sign? 01:03:01.683 --> 01:03:02.516 Thanks. 01:03:03.642 --> 01:03:04.475 - So, great question. 01:03:04.475 --> 01:03:05.308 Thanks. 01:03:05.433 --> 01:03:09.516 I think there is certainly much to be gained from 01:03:11.451 --> 01:03:15.618 big data analytics, both offensively and defensively. 01:03:17.449 --> 01:03:21.262 Those things that can unlock our own data for our purposes, 01:03:21.262 --> 01:03:24.012 and then create advantage for us. 01:03:24.963 --> 01:03:26.711 Those are areas worth exploring 01:03:26.711 --> 01:03:28.508 and worth dedicating some of our, 01:03:28.508 --> 01:03:32.508 at least our 20% to go back to Joe's point. 01:03:32.696 --> 01:03:35.202 Directed energy has also been a focus, 01:03:35.202 --> 01:03:37.231 and I think that as you look to the future 01:03:37.231 --> 01:03:39.741 and I look to the Navy after next, 01:03:39.741 --> 01:03:43.273 there are some significant advantages there. 01:03:43.273 --> 01:03:46.674 For us to be able to achieve that as a reality 01:03:46.674 --> 01:03:49.817 with the capital intensive investments 01:03:49.817 --> 01:03:51.125 that we have in ships, 01:03:51.125 --> 01:03:53.218 we need to go at the enabling capabilities, 01:03:53.218 --> 01:03:54.968 which revolve around, 01:03:55.172 --> 01:03:58.448 how do you create the right kind of cube space? 01:03:58.448 --> 01:04:01.941 How do you create the right kind of power requirements? 01:04:01.941 --> 01:04:03.524 And then the distribution of those, 01:04:03.524 --> 01:04:05.857 of that power, around ships. 01:04:06.249 --> 01:04:09.187 And then if we're trying to do stuff in single domains, 01:04:09.187 --> 01:04:11.473 we're probably doing it wrong. 01:04:11.473 --> 01:04:13.286 So our ability to work cross domain 01:04:13.286 --> 01:04:15.666 and across a series of partnerships 01:04:15.666 --> 01:04:18.083 so that on day one we show up 01:04:18.192 --> 01:04:20.431 and our stuff all works together 01:04:20.431 --> 01:04:23.172 and we don't have to think real hard about it, 01:04:23.172 --> 01:04:25.293 then we know we've focused on the right things. 01:04:25.293 --> 01:04:26.251 So those are some areas 01:04:26.251 --> 01:04:29.502 that we're gonna be driving some investment. 01:04:29.502 --> 01:04:31.502 - I think from our side, 01:04:32.007 --> 01:04:35.757 I think the Marine Corps coming from the sea, 01:04:35.929 --> 01:04:39.766 being a lighter force than, say, the United States Army, 01:04:39.766 --> 01:04:43.523 that we don't always bring all the firepower with us 01:04:43.523 --> 01:04:45.788 in a large scale like the Army can bring. 01:04:45.788 --> 01:04:49.955 So we always think more expeditionary and maneuver warfare. 01:04:51.189 --> 01:04:54.743 One of the things that maneuver warfare we've got to do, 01:04:54.743 --> 01:04:56.435 and you look at the Navy's concept 01:04:56.435 --> 01:04:59.663 of distributed lethality and distributed maritime operations 01:04:59.663 --> 01:05:02.922 is to be able to move fast and hit where the enemy is not, 01:05:02.922 --> 01:05:04.733 find the gaps and seams. 01:05:04.733 --> 01:05:06.495 That's always been who we've been all about. 01:05:06.495 --> 01:05:10.141 What I find I think is, our advantage today is, 01:05:10.141 --> 01:05:12.240 it always come back to people, 01:05:12.240 --> 01:05:14.627 today's young sailors and marines 01:05:14.627 --> 01:05:18.414 that know how to think and act in that environment today. 01:05:18.414 --> 01:05:21.433 They grow up completely different than my generation, 01:05:21.433 --> 01:05:24.183 thinking and acting on their own. 01:05:24.914 --> 01:05:25.872 I tell the story 01:05:25.872 --> 01:05:29.218 when I go to the airport and I get stuck in the airport 01:05:29.218 --> 01:05:33.006 and we're delayed for a few hours and I'm with my daughter, 01:05:33.006 --> 01:05:35.914 I go to the newspaper machine, put a quarter in, 01:05:35.914 --> 01:05:39.049 and get a newspaper out and sit down and start to read. 01:05:39.049 --> 01:05:40.533 She disappears and she's with 01:05:40.533 --> 01:05:42.695 six or eight of her friends at a coffee shop 01:05:42.695 --> 01:05:43.977 that they've got together with 01:05:43.977 --> 01:05:47.644 in just a matter of minutes on social media. 01:05:48.019 --> 01:05:51.464 So to me the advantage is getting that information 01:05:51.464 --> 01:05:53.439 down to the lowest levels. 01:05:53.439 --> 01:05:54.749 Where before we had to have 01:05:54.749 --> 01:05:57.499 large combined operations centers 01:05:58.254 --> 01:06:00.775 to get that information in and process it 01:06:00.775 --> 01:06:03.935 and pass it to the colonel down at the end of the line, 01:06:03.935 --> 01:06:05.689 now we're trying to get that information 01:06:05.689 --> 01:06:06.797 down to the lowest levels. 01:06:06.797 --> 01:06:09.453 When we really talk about distributed operations, 01:06:09.453 --> 01:06:10.809 we're talking about getting it 01:06:10.809 --> 01:06:12.745 down to the squad leader level 01:06:12.745 --> 01:06:14.529 so they can make decisions, 01:06:14.529 --> 01:06:17.489 keep the tempo up on the battlefield and move fast, 01:06:17.489 --> 01:06:19.486 and put the enemy at a disadvantage. 01:06:19.486 --> 01:06:22.460 The technology that we have today that we're talking about 01:06:22.460 --> 01:06:25.717 is an advantage to us because of this free thinking society 01:06:25.717 --> 01:06:27.467 our youth grow up in. 01:06:27.624 --> 01:06:29.323 You can give that same technology 01:06:29.323 --> 01:06:32.240 to authoritarian armies and navies. 01:06:32.258 --> 01:06:34.153 They're not gonna use it the same way we are. 01:06:34.153 --> 01:06:36.927 So the ability to get things smaller 01:06:36.927 --> 01:06:38.689 and push that down to lower levels, 01:06:38.689 --> 01:06:42.189 I think, is where we have to keep pushing. 01:06:43.627 --> 01:06:44.539 - [Jeff] Hi. 01:06:44.539 --> 01:06:46.198 Jeff Schogol with Marine Corps Times. 01:06:46.198 --> 01:06:49.781 This question is for Vice Admiral Woodcock. 01:06:49.958 --> 01:06:50.791 Yes. 01:06:51.484 --> 01:06:55.291 You had mentioned the Royal Navy was making some changes 01:06:55.291 --> 01:06:57.521 in how it recruits cyber operators. 01:06:57.521 --> 01:07:00.453 I'm interested in if the Royal Navy has had to wave 01:07:00.453 --> 01:07:02.814 weight requirements, tattoos, 01:07:02.814 --> 01:07:05.000 drug convictions, and other things. 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.227 And based on those results, 01:07:06.227 --> 01:07:08.249 what would you recommend to your American cousins 01:07:08.249 --> 01:07:11.519 when it comes to finding cyber operators? 01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:12.477 - Okay, yeah. 01:07:12.477 --> 01:07:13.310 Absolutely. 01:07:13.310 --> 01:07:15.477 So we've waved pretty much 01:07:16.543 --> 01:07:18.544 all of the classic military requirements. 01:07:18.544 --> 01:07:20.066 We don't expect them to wear uniform. 01:07:20.066 --> 01:07:21.515 We don't require them to cut their hair. 01:07:21.515 --> 01:07:23.739 We don't mind thick glasses. 01:07:23.739 --> 01:07:25.776 What we need is cyber operators 01:07:25.776 --> 01:07:27.983 and people who can do cyber warfare. 01:07:27.983 --> 01:07:29.788 And we're predominantly recruiting to the reserve. 01:07:29.788 --> 01:07:31.278 The reserve force is where we place 01:07:31.278 --> 01:07:32.548 most of our cyber operators. 01:07:32.548 --> 01:07:35.048 But we are not constrained by, 01:07:36.219 --> 01:07:38.527 we are refusing to be constrained 01:07:38.527 --> 01:07:40.743 by the standard requirements in order that we do this. 01:07:40.743 --> 01:07:43.326 And I think my advice would be, 01:07:44.032 --> 01:07:47.028 it depends how big the pool of available labor is. 01:07:47.028 --> 01:07:48.234 But if you want the best people, 01:07:48.234 --> 01:07:50.356 you've got employ the best people. 01:07:50.356 --> 01:07:52.726 Don't employ the worst people because they fit your mold. 01:07:52.726 --> 01:07:54.230 Don't be an introvert organization. 01:07:54.230 --> 01:07:56.647 Be an extrovert organization. 01:07:59.909 --> 01:08:00.742 - [Hope] Hi. 01:08:00.742 --> 01:08:02.209 Hope Seck with Military.com 01:08:02.209 --> 01:08:04.711 My question is for Admiral Collum. 01:08:04.711 --> 01:08:06.902 Really, I was just hoping you could expand further 01:08:06.902 --> 01:08:10.215 on some of the things you were saying about 01:08:10.215 --> 01:08:14.382 these sea basing platforms like the EPF and the MLP 01:08:15.210 --> 01:08:19.127 and ways that they could be used in the future, 01:08:19.358 --> 01:08:22.941 and also with that medical use for the EPF, 01:08:23.672 --> 01:08:24.767 what does that take? 01:08:24.767 --> 01:08:28.850 What are the next steps to making that a reality? 01:08:29.034 --> 01:08:31.302 - Well, let me answer your question 01:08:31.302 --> 01:08:33.885 probably with a broader answer. 01:08:34.181 --> 01:08:38.348 What I would say is that, basically, there is no limit. 01:08:39.248 --> 01:08:41.631 If you think about that cube, that open cube, 01:08:41.631 --> 01:08:43.956 in the back of any of those kinds of ships 01:08:43.956 --> 01:08:47.123 or below the main deck of those ships, 01:08:47.717 --> 01:08:49.214 there is no limitation as to 01:08:49.214 --> 01:08:51.272 what we can potentially do with those. 01:08:51.272 --> 01:08:54.751 So it's open to the creativity of lots of folks, 01:08:54.751 --> 01:08:56.745 as long as we make sure we understand 01:08:56.745 --> 01:08:59.189 what those ships also have to do 01:08:59.189 --> 01:09:02.220 in terms of being able to have those auxiliary ships 01:09:02.220 --> 01:09:04.720 be able to add much more profoundly 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.272 than they have in the past 01:09:06.272 --> 01:09:09.439 to the total solution of what the Navy 01:09:09.952 --> 01:09:13.949 and the Navy-Marine Corps and the Coast Guard team can do. 01:09:13.949 --> 01:09:16.445 So it's a little bit of an oblique answer, 01:09:16.445 --> 01:09:18.862 but it's much broader to say, 01:09:19.428 --> 01:09:21.975 we're experimenting with anything and everything 01:09:21.975 --> 01:09:25.251 and different options of things that we can put in it. 01:09:25.251 --> 01:09:26.452 And we have a full plate 01:09:26.452 --> 01:09:29.952 of different things to go experiment with. 01:09:30.690 --> 01:09:32.523 - And I think Admiral, 01:09:34.408 --> 01:09:37.292 the application of that as a medical facility, 01:09:37.292 --> 01:09:39.252 that's already been put in evidence, right? 01:09:39.252 --> 01:09:40.085 - Yeah. 01:09:40.085 --> 01:09:43.510 We actually already did that in a smaller scale. 01:09:43.510 --> 01:09:46.067 The EPF is a relatively small ship, 01:09:46.067 --> 01:09:48.484 so she's not a hospital ship. 01:09:48.490 --> 01:09:50.200 But that certainly gives you an idea 01:09:50.200 --> 01:09:53.431 of a kind of ambulance, if you will, capability. 01:09:53.431 --> 01:09:55.711 But then just think about what else we can do 01:09:55.711 --> 01:09:58.563 with some of the larger auxiliary ships that we have, 01:09:58.563 --> 01:10:02.645 as we call 'em, the Black-Hulled Navy, USNS type of ships. 01:10:02.645 --> 01:10:03.794 And can you expand that? 01:10:03.794 --> 01:10:04.627 Of course. 01:10:07.988 --> 01:10:12.155 - Are there any other questions from the audience? 01:10:12.979 --> 01:10:14.533 Would any of the panel members 01:10:14.533 --> 01:10:16.999 like to make any closing remarks? 01:10:16.999 --> 01:10:17.832 No? 01:10:18.010 --> 01:10:19.779 I think that we had a really good panel, 01:10:19.779 --> 01:10:23.029 and I'm very optimistic for our future. 01:10:25.219 --> 01:10:26.204 Thank you all for coming. 01:10:26.204 --> 01:10:29.069 Thank you to the Navy League for putting this panel on. 01:10:29.069 --> 01:10:31.200 I wanna highlight one more thing. 01:10:31.200 --> 01:10:33.226 For those of you who may not know, 01:10:33.226 --> 01:10:35.956 the Department of Navy is having a forum 01:10:35.956 --> 01:10:39.206 for small business innovation research, 01:10:40.136 --> 01:10:42.969 and we have several, 99, actually, 01:10:43.746 --> 01:10:47.209 small businesses that are in SBIR Phase II 01:10:47.209 --> 01:10:48.267 that are exhibiting. 01:10:48.267 --> 01:10:50.752 And they're exhibiting at the Woodrow Wilson Ballroom, 01:10:50.752 --> 01:10:52.260 which is just down the hall. 01:10:52.260 --> 01:10:54.045 They're showcasing their technology, 01:10:54.045 --> 01:10:56.036 so that's a great opportunity to walk through, 01:10:56.036 --> 01:11:00.195 see the kinds of technology that the Navy is sponsoring. 01:11:00.195 --> 01:11:03.050 And also, they're putting on tech talks. 01:11:03.050 --> 01:11:06.697 And this afternoon, there's a couple of tech talks, 01:11:06.697 --> 01:11:09.712 technology talks, that are related to 01:11:09.712 --> 01:11:11.725 operation and maintenance, cost savings, 01:11:11.725 --> 01:11:13.788 and platform life cycle improvements, 01:11:13.788 --> 01:11:16.912 one today on antennas, RF technologies, 01:11:16.912 --> 01:11:19.259 and another one on energy technologies. 01:11:19.259 --> 01:11:21.266 So I encourage everybody to go through, 01:11:21.266 --> 01:11:22.513 take a look at those exhibits. 01:11:22.513 --> 01:11:26.680 Those are in addition to the Sea, Air, Space exhibit. 01:11:26.922 --> 01:11:28.237 So thank you, everybody. 01:11:28.237 --> 01:11:29.464 Thank you to our panel members. 01:11:29.464 --> 01:11:30.737 Thank you for coming today. 01:11:30.737 --> 01:11:33.737 (audience applauds) 01:11:36.896 --> 01:11:39.896 (people chattering)