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- Alright, good morning, ladies and gentlemen.

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General Townsend, just want to make sure you can hear us

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and we can hear you before we get started.

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- Yup, I have you loud and clear from Baghdad.

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- Ladies and gentlemen, good morning,

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and we're pleased to be joined today

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by Lieutenant General Steven Townsend,

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who's the commander of Operation Inherent Resolve.

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He's coming to us live today from Baghdad

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to give us an update on the counter-ISIS operations

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that are taking place there.

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General, we'll turn it over to you,

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and then take questions from here.

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- Thanks.

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Good morning.

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I'll start with a quick overview of our main effort in Iraq

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at the West side of Mosul.

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Then I'll move on to Syria.

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On the 19th of February, Iraqi Security Forces,

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including the Iraqi Army's 9th Division

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and the Iraqi Federal Police,

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as well as the counterterrorism service,

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started operations to liberate West Mosul

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from ISIL's brutal control.

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They attacked North along the Tigris River,

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and they captured high ground,

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which enabled them to move quickly

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onto Mosul International Airport.

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The airport's now under their control

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after a couple of days of hard fighting.

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Now they've begun breaching into the outskirts of the city

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with the Iraqi Counterterrorism Service,

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federal police, and army,

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moving along three axes of advance

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that clear the enemy from neighborhoods

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inside the city,

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but also enveloping the city to the West.

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As you recall, this tactic of presenting the enemy

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with multiple dilemma has proved effective.

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When the Iraqi Security Forces employed it

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in the second phase, their operations

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on the East side of Mosul,

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it overwhelmed the enemy's command and control.

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So far, this method is showing promise

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in the early stages of fighting on the West side,

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but we expect very tough fighting,

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as the Iraqis move deeper into the dense urban terrain

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of West Mosul.

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This enemy's been preparing for this battle for some time,

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and they've done an extensive amount of work

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to dig and build barriers, to complicate

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the Iraqi advance.

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We've seen them use berms,

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T-walls, tunnels, shipment containers, and vehicles

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in the streets

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to slow the ISF down.

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And they've rigged many of these barriers with explosives.

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We strike these barriers with our precision fires

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to help the Iraqis advance.

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We'll also continue to remove leadership figures

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from the battlefield, attack their command and control

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and logistics nodes,

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any weapons caches and fighting positions.

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Our coalition advisors are also

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with the Iraqi command elements.

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Their support accelerates the Iraqi advance even more.

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In Syria, the recent liberation of al-Bab,

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our coalition partner, Turkey,

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and the vetted Syrian opposition has dealt ISIS

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another significant blow.

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Liberating the last significant ISIS-held

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population center in the Aleppo district.

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Also closing the door to both of its supply line

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of new fighters and its ability to export terrorists

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around the world.

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al-Bab is an important crossroads to several major cities

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in Northern Syria.

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Since the liberation of Dabiq in October,

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ISIS has used al-Bab as a logistics

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and command and control center in Northwest Syria.

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Cutting off ISIS supply lines and disrupting its leadership

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further isolates fighters in Raqqa

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and the Euphrates River Valley,

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making it harder for ISIS to move reinforcements into Syria

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and export terrorists to Europe.

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The coalition supported Turkey

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and their partner force efforts in al-Bab

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with more than 50 airstrikes,

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taking fighters off the battlefield,

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destroying VBIEDs, mortar, and artillery pieces,

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and denying the enemy use of dozens of vehicles,

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buildings, escalation equipment,

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and weapons caches.

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With the liberation of al-Bab,

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Turkey has now secured its border from ISIS.

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The coalition is encouraged by the progress

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against ISIS in al-Bab by the Turkish military

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and their opposition forces.

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We encourage all forces to remain

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focused on the counter-ISIS fight

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and concentrate their efforts on defeating ISIS and not

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towards other objectives that may cause the coalition

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to divert energy and resources away from Raqqa.

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US, Turkey, and coalition partners are working together

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to support stabilization

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and local civilian governance in Manbij.

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The coalition is committed to the security of Turkey

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and will continue to work in close coordination

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with partner forces and allies

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to deliver a lasting defeat to ISIS,

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which remains the greatest terrorist threat to the region

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and the world.

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We continue planning for the eventual liberation of Raqqa,

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ISIL's self-proclaimed capital.

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We are confident that the SDF forces

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that are isolating Raqqa will continue their recent

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successful clearance operations

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and set the stage for the liberation of the city.

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This would be a major setback for the enemy.

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With coalition support, they have cleared more than

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6,000 square kilometers of territory

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in the countryside of Raqqa

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since they started their operation November 5th.

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We have continued discussing how Turkey

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and their partner forces might contribute

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to the liberation of the city.

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The liberation of Raqqa will bring an end

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to the enemy's mythology that they were ever more

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than a brutal, murderous terrorist group.

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And then we will continue working with our partners

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to deal them a lasting defeat.

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Coalition efforts, by, with, and through our partners

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in Iraq and Syria have made significant progress.

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I continue to be encouraged by the bravery

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and commitment of our partner forces,

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who have fought hard and made many sacrifices

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in their efforts to liberate their land.

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Their efforts protect the people of Iraq,

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Syria, the region, and the world

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from the threat that needs to be eliminated

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for the good of all.

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I'm proud of our coalition troopers,

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who are supporting our partners,

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for making a huge difference here.

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Without stopping, I'm happy to answer your questions.

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- We'll start with Bob Burns from the Associated Press.

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- General.

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Question for you about Raqqa.

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Your comments about

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still talking to Turkey about how they might participate

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in Raqqa.

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How long are you willing to wait

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for the Turks to come up with a proposal that's acceptable

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to you, and can you elaborate a little bit more on

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whether you are ruling out

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or you would rule out Turkish forces participating

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directly?

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- Okay.

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Forgive me if the audio is a little shaky.

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Bob, I heard your name and I think I got your

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question there

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about Turk participation in Raqqa.

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So, right now, we're in the approach to isolation.

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Our Syrian Democratic Force partners have not yet closed

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to a siege around Raqqa as of yet.

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They are still moving in that direction.

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So we've got some time yet

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to examine fully all the options

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and consider all the options for

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the forces that will eventually

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liberate Raqqa.

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So, nothing's off the table.

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We still have time to look at these things and plan,

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and we're doing that with all of our partners.

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- Next one, Tom Bowman from National Public Radio.

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- If we could stay in Raqqa for a second.

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First of all, do you expect Turkish forces

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to take part in the Raqqa operation

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and you're just sort of discussing numbers?

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Number one.

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And also, one of the last times we saw you,

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you said you've trained roughly 3,000 Syrian Arabs

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and you would need two or three times that

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to take Raqqa.

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Can you give us a status on those efforts?

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And lastly, do you expect some number of Kurdish fighters

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to take part in the Raqqa operation?

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- Okay.

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Thanks, Tom.

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So there were a number of questions there.

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Do I expect Turkish forces to participate?

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And then what numbers.

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I think that was your first question.

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So, like I said before,

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we're engaged in discussions with the Turks

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on how they might participate

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in the liberation of Raqqa,

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and I don't know what the numbers

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of their participation might be.

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As far as training Syrian Arabs goes,

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yes, I said before that we had trained

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over 3,000.

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I think the number now is probably over 4,000.

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Right at that.

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We just graduated some here recently.

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I think there are a large number of Syrian Arab forces

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already in the field.

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So it's not

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necessary or possible for us to train all of them.

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We are training more Syrian Arab forces

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to thicken the force that's in the field now.

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And as I said, that number is over 4,000.

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Quite honestly, I think you asked another question here, but

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I didn't get it written down.

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So if you would, please repeat.

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I think there was a third part to your question,

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and I don't remember what it was.

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- As far as the Kurds go, what number of Kurds do you expect

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to take part in the Raqqa operation?

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- Okay.

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So, do I expect Kurds to take part in the Raqqa operation

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and what number?

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I'm not gonna talk about numbers.

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Mainly because the enemy watches,

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probably watches this show as well,

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so I just don't want to go to numbers.

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Yes, I expect Kurds will participate in the operation

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in one form or fashion.

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The facts are there are Kurds from Raqqa

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and larger Raqqa district and province.

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So there are Kurds from there,

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local Kurds who will participate.

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And I think it's probably likely that other Kurds.

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Now these are Assyrians,

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these are Arabs,

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these are Kurds,

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these Turkmen, and others are Syrians,

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and they're liberating Syria from ISIS.

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So, yes, I expect there will be some Kurds

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that will participate.

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I don't think we're gonna change the demographics of Raqqa

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by Kurds or Turkmen or any group

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participating in the operation,

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but I expect that probably all types of Syrians

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in Northern Syria will participate

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in the liberation of Raqqa.

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- Next, to Jennifer Griffin from Fox News.

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- General Townsend, what was the reaction from the Iraqis

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that you deal with daily when the executive order

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temporarily banning citizens from Iraq from coming to the US

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was signed?

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Did it make your job more complicated?

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- Well,

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so how that played out, actually,

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the reaction of the Iraqis that I deal with

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to the executive order was actually

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pretty muted

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and pretty level-headed

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and sophisticated.

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So, for example,

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I deal with Iraqis in the Iraqi Security Forces.

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They are a military people, like me,

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or they're in the police forces,

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and, by and large, they said,

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"Hey, we have a war to fight.

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"That's political business.

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"Not our concern, let's keep focused on the fight."

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So I appreciated that reaction.

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The Iraqi political leaders

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and civilian leaders I dealt with

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actually took a very measured approach,

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and you can see that in their public statements

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right after the executive order was announced.

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Prime Minister Abadi refused to take any reciprocal action

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until he saw how this played out,

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and his main point was,

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"We have important work to do here,

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"the United States and Iraq,

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"in the fight against ISIS in this region,

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"and we can't let anything disrupt

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"or distract us from that."

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So that was the initial reaction,

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which I found to be helpful.

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They were relieved

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when the executive order was suspended.

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Now they are waiting to see

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how that may play out here in the future,

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and we're waiting to see how that plays out ourselves.

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- Did you personally have any concerns that

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if Iraq is included in the next executive order,

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that it could pose problems for US forces on the ground?

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- I'll say this.

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Iraq is our partner

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and ally.

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If not a treaty ally, they are an ally

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in the fight against ISIS.

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This nation is fully mobilized in this war

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alongside of us.

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They've invited us into their country to help them.

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They are protecting us here.

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And we're fighting this enemy

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that threatens all of our countries together.

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So, I would prefer,

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personally, not to see anything that would

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reflect on that,

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except that we have a very strong partnership.

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I think I'll just leave it at that.

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- And next, we go to Kasim Ileri with Anadolu News Agency.

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- Hi, General.

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I'm going to ask about the new Syrian Arab recruits

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for the fight for Raqqa.

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CENTCOM has posted some pictures of the new recruits

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in Northern Syria, and

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the fighters seem to be girls and boys at their fifteens.

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Do you have a specific condition in place

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for those groups not to recruit underage

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fighters for the fight against ISIS?

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- Okay.

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Thanks.

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You were kind of hard to understand,

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but I think I got the gist of your question.

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It was about underage fighters,

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and I think you were asking me about

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Syria and Raqqa, but I'm not really sure about that.

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I'll just say this:

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all of the forces that we operate with,

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the United States and the coalition,

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are vetted forces.

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We don't allow

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child fighters, underage fighters.

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If we see that, we bring it to their attention,

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and, actually, I haven't seen any examples of that,

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or none of them have come to my attention in Syria.

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So, again, we lay out the rules to our partners,

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and they are vetted and expected to follow those rules.

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Now, where we have seen a couple of instances like this,

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we were with some tribal resistance forces here

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in Iraq a few months ago,

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and it turned out to be,

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in a couple of cases, it turned out to be

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a commander's son, who was wearing army fatigues

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and going with dad to work.

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Dad's work happened to be

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with a tribal resistance unit, fighting,

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but not unlike some of our

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children wearing our army suits

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and going off with their parents.

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So we brought this to the attention of

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the tribal resistance leaders and said,

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"Look, you can't have your son here.

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"He's underage, he can't be here

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"at the unit where we're doing our business with you

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"in uniform.

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"And he can't be here."

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So, we made that clear to them.

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Those couple of instances were cleared up.

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And we haven't heard any reports of that or seen any

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accounts of that on the battlefield here,

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but I am familiar with

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the press reporting that you mentioned.

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- What I'm talking about are not the tribal forces,

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rather, these are the Syrian Arab Coalition's new recruits

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in Northern Syria that the CENTCOM has posted.

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And, to what extent you are sure that there are not

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any underage fighters among the Syrian Arab Coalition's

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new recruits?

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Could you say, with 100% sure,

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surely that there are no underage fighters

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amongst Syrian Arab Coalition that has been trained

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by the United States or by the Syrian Democratic Forces?

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- Okay.

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Sounds like you're trying to box me into an answer here, but

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of course, I can't say with 100% certainty anything.

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There's a war going on here,

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and it's the most complicated environment and situation

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I've been in in my life.

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So, could there be something going on?

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Maybe, sure, it's possible,

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but I'll tell you this.

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We don't train underage fighters.

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Period.

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And if we find anything that looks like an underage fighter,

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we get them removed from the premises and from the formation

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and from our operations and activities.

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And I don't know how to say it any clearer than that.

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- Alright, the gentleman from the Daily Sabah.

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- Ragip Soylu with Daily Sabah.

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General, you told US media that

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you believe Kurdish fighters are not a threat to Turkey,

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but YPG fighters and commanders

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repeatedly told a set of publications last year that

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they are planning to take the fight to Turkey

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once they are done with Syria.

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In the light of these statements,

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what makes you so sure that YPG is not a threat to Turkey?

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- Okay.

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I think I heard your question, which was,

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why do I think the YPG are not a threat to Turkey?

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I didn't quite hear the middle part of your question, so

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I'm not really sure how you prefaced that question.

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I'll say that

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we have watched and operated alongside

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the Syrian Democratic Forces,

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of which about 40% are composed of YPG, Kurds,

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The People's Protection Units, YPG,

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and about 60% now are

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composed of the Syrian Arab Coalition.

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Of those YPG fighters,

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I mean, I've talked to their leaders

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and we've watched them operate,

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and they continually reassure us

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that they have no desire to attack Turkey,

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that they're not a threat to Turkey.

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In fact, they desire to have a good working relationship

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with Turkey.

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And I have seen absolutely zero evidence

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that they have been a threat to or have supported

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any attacks on Turkey from Northern Syria

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over the last two years.

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- Okay, next, Lucas Tomlinson with Fox News.

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- General, are you concerned that any increase in US forces

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troops into Iraq or Syria

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will be seen as an occupying force and draw more

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foreign fighters into the region?

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- In my opening statement, I talked about our strategy

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of by, with, and through our local partners,

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and that's still the right way to go.

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It's working.

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Our local partners are fully invested.

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They are leading the fight,

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and we're just here helping them.

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Would I be concerned if we brought in a large number

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of US or coalition troops

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without coordinating that with our local partners?

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I would.

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I won't comment on the likelihood.

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I don't foresee us bringing in large numbers

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of coalition troops mainly because what we're doing is,

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in fact, working.

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But, in that event that we bring in any additional troops,

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we'll work that with our local partners,

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both here in Iraq and Syria, to make sure that

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they understand the reasons why we're doing that

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and to get their buy-in of that.

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So, yes, I think if we showed up with a large number

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of coalition troops unannounced and uninvited,

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I would be concerned that that would cause a problem here.

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I don't think that's the way we'll go about it.

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I think we'll be smarter than that.

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Any additional forces that we decide to bring here,

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the coalition does, we'll work it with our

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partners, particularly here in Iraq,

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and make sure that they understand it and agree.

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- These US forces, but used with local partners

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in sabotage operations behind enemy lines?

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- I'm sorry,

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I think the question was,

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would US forces be used with local partners

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and sabotage operations behind enemy lines?

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Was that what you asked?

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I thought that's what I heard.

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I'm not sure.

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- [Lucas] Correct, against ISIS.

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- Okay.

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Okay, that's just not how we're fighting this war.

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As I had described before,

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the coalition provides, essentially, five things

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to our partners.

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Before combat, we equip and train our partners.

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Once combat is joined, we provide intelligence,

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precision fires, and advice.

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The United States does have the capability to do sabotage

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behind enemy lines,

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but we're not doing that kind of activity over here.

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We might support, with fires and intelligence,

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our partners as they

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decide to do a raid or something like that

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behind enemy lines, and we have,

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but I think it's not likely that

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US forces or coalition forces will

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go with our partners, as you say, behind enemy lines

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to perform sabotage.

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That's just not how we're operating here.

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Our partners are doing the fighting on the ground,

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and we're helping them with standoff capabilities.

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We're just not closing with the enemy, and we're not

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going with sabotage, parties raiding behind enemy lines.

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- Next, to Paul Shinkman from US News and World Report.

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- Good morning, General, thank you for doing this.

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I wanted to ask you about some reports that we've heard

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of ISIS fighters hiding in the migrant flows

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as they come out of Mosul.

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Can you confirm that that's happening?

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And on what kind of scale are you seeing that if so?

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How many ISIS fighters?

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- Okay.

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Yes, I think it's happening.

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I don't think it's happening on a large scale.

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So are there ISIS fighters

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concealing themselves in the flow of

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displaced persons coming out of Mosul?

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Yes.

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In fact, our Iraqi Security Forces have

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caught some of those.

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They're doing screening.

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The refugees, the internally displaced persons can't flow

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through screening points,

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and the Iraqi Security Forces screen those,

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and the Muslawis themselves are very

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free to point out who they suspect

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as being an ISIS fighter,

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and we have captured,

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our Iraqi partners have captured some small numbers

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of fairly low-level fighters, who I think are probably

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from the local area and had just had enough

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and just decided to get out

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and try to conceal themselves in the flow.

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So is that happening?

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Yes, probably at a fairly low level.

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I'm not greatly concerned by that,

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and the Iraqis are acting on it.

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- And do you have any sense of how many ISIS fighters remain

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throughout all of Iraq, not just in Mosul?

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And do you track the extent to which they might be hiding

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in civilian populations elsewhere?

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And if so, do you have any sense of that number?

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- So our current estimates,

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the best the intelligence community can give us right now

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are that there are somewhere between 12,000 and 15,000

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ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria.

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We assess right now that there's somewhere between

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2,000, plus or minus, in and around Western Mosul,

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including the area out to Tal Afar.

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So that pocket there that's isolated from the rest of Iraq,

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probably 2,000, plus or minus a few hundred.

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So, are they hiding amongst the civilian populations?

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Certainly, they are.

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They're doing that in West Mosul.

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They're doing that in Raqqa.

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They are hiding amongst the civilian population.

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Then they're doing that in other places, too,

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in Iraq and Syria,

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and that's what our partners are all about.

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We're focused on their twin capitals,

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Mosul and Raqqa, right now,

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but it's our intent, with our partners,

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to go root them out of the other population centers first

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and then chase them into the valleys, and river valleys,

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and palm groves in the rural areas

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after they've been chased out of the city.

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So, yes, they are hiding amongst the civilian population

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all over Iraq and Syria, and we're

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focused on chasing them out

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in a sort of sequential campaign.

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- One quick followup, sir, if I may.

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You said 12 to 15 thousand in both Iraq and Syria.

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Do you have an estimate for just Iraq?

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Or perhaps is that number too difficult to attain

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because ISIS can traverse the border?

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- Well, I would agree with you that...

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I'd probably say about half,

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but as you just correctly surmised,

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that number is a little bit difficult to obtain because

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ISIS can

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transport across the border.

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We currently don't have presence nor the ability

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to pressure the area in the Euphrates River Valley

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along the Syrian-Iraq border.

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There's an Iraqi town there, a sizable one called Al-Qa'im,

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and a Syrian town just across the border called Abu Kamal.

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And the enemy has freedom of movement in there.

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We only have the ability to watch and strike

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when we see something that is definitely

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visible from the air to be enemy.

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So until we get down there, the enemy can move

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back and forth across the border, in that region at least,

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fairly freely.

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And so it's kind of hard to know.

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For lack of a better number, I'd say roughly half.

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- Next, to Corey Dickstein with Stars and Stripes.

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- Thank you, General.

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There's some reports that, within Western Mosul,

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a lot of the more senior leadership within ISIS has fled.

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I don't know how true those reports are.

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Have you guys seen any shifts in tactics

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or anything that would suggest that

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the high leaders aren't really running the fight there?

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And then can you kind of characterize what

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the morale among ISIS is in West Mosul?

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Do you expect a real fight to the very end,

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every ISIS fighter killed kind of situation?

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- Okay.

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So, as far as senior leaders go,

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yeah, the senior leaders rarely

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put themselves at risk in any place for very long.

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Now they're not willing to share the risks

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that they demand of their fighters

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to fight to the death.

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They'll tell their fighters, in a heartbeat,

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"You stay here and fight to the death.

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"Meanwhile, I'm going to Raqqa.

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"You stay here and fight to the death.

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"Meanwhile, I'm going to Abu Kamal or Al-Qa'im."

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So that's fairly common.

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So, it's not a surprise to us that

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there aren't probably

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that many senior leaders left in Mosul.

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If there are, they're kind of stuck

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because we've isolated Mosul

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from the rest of Iraq and Syria.

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And it won't surprise me if they don't linger very long

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in Raqqa; they'll slip away.

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We have a specific campaign to hunt them and kill them,

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and we've killed an extraordinary number of leaders.

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In fact, almost all of

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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's inner circle has been killed

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in the last six months,

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six to nine months, have been killed

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with precision strikes by the coalition.

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So that's senior leaders.

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And then as to the morale of the fighters.

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We see reports that are all

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along the spectrum of enemy morale.

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You have to remember that the enemy ranks

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are composed of several types of fighters.

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So, at one end of the spectrum,

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you have foreign fighters.

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Most of those foreign fighters, you will recall,

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on TV a couple of years ago,

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them burning their passports.

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They're committed to this.

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They're hard cases.

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They've got nowhere else to go.

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We expect to kill them.

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They'll fight to the death.

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Typically.

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Then, in the middle,

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you have your average ISIS fighter,

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and he's probably willing

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to follow the orders of his leadership.

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If they tell him to stay, he'll stay.

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If they tell him to go, he'll go.

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And then at the other end of the spectrum, probably...

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The foreign fighter percentage, those hard case guys,

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are probably

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only about 10% in the enemy's ranks,

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and there's probably another 10 or 20 percent

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that are very hardened local fighters and regional fighters.

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And then at the other end of the spectrum, you've got

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fighters that have been pressed into service

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because they feel like they have no other choice

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or they've been actually threatened.

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Their families have been threatened

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or they've been personally threatened,

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or they just don't think they can say no.

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And those fighters will

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vote with their feet at the first opportunity.

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So, it's kind of hard to know what the enemy's morale is.

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Personally, having watched ISIL now for its

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two-plus years of existence, I don't expect ISIL

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to suddenly collapse from a lack of morale.

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Like I said, there is a portion

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that will break and run.

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The rest of them will fight as ordered

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or fight to the death.

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- Next, to Carla Babb from Voice of America.

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- Hi, General, thank you for speaking with us.

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You talked a little about

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the fighting's

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capabilities that we'll have in Raqqa,

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who's going to be making that up.

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Mentioned the Kurds, mentioned the

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Syrian Arab Coalition.

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What would more US military involvement

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in Syria look like?

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And then my second question is,

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should more resources

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come to you for the counter-ISIS fight,

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where would you like to see...

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Oh, he can't hear anything I'm saying.

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- Carla, can you try again and speak up really loud?

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- I can't understand her.

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No, not loud.

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Get her closer to a microphone or something.

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I hear the moderator great.

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I heard most of the earlier questioners pretty good.

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I can't hear her at all.

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- [Carla] Hi, General, thank you so much for doing this.

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- Clarity issue.

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- [Carla] Can you hear me now?

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- I hear you great now, go ahead.

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- So, my question is,

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what would greater US military involvement

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look like in Syria?

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And then, also, second question,

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should more resources come to you,

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where would you like to see those resources diverted

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in the counter-Islamic state campaign.

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Thanks.

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- Wow.

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So I'm just really kind of sorry that we went

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to all that trouble to get that question,

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because I don't think I can answer it.

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So, as far as greater US involvement in Syria look like,

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I've submitted some recommendations

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through my chain of command to the new administration.

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The new administration is weighing

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those recommendations and options,

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and I prefer not to discuss them further here,

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while my leaders make decisions.

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And then I'm really not sure what your...

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Your second question was along the same lines.

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I'm just not gonna talk about what our plans might be

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for whether we have additional forces

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and what they might do, sorry.

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- Next, ma'am from, sorry, Bloomberg.

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- A quick followup to the executive order.

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White House officials told us that

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in the revised version, Iraq won't be included

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in the countries that are banned from entering into the US.

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I'm just wondering if you have

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kind of any reaction to that

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and what that might mean for what you're doing.

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- Yeah, I've heard the same thing

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about the revised executive order,

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but I really don't want to comment on it because,

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actually, I've heard just as much

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that says they will be included again as says

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that Iraq won't be included again.

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So until...

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I don't know where our government is on that,

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but maybe you have some special insight, but

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until I see the executive order

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in its coming out, I just assume not

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comment on it, 'cause I don't know

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what it's gonna say.

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- Next, Michael Gordon from The New York Times.

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- General, you said earlier on in your

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presentation that you would encourage all forces

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to stay focused on the counter-ISIS fight

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and not become diverted away from Raqqa.

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Are you seeing specific preparations

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or actions on the part of the Turkish military, or

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are you concerned by certain statements they may have made

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that lead you to think that perhaps

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their next objective might be Manbij and not Raqqa?

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Why did you feel the need to make that assertion?

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- Well, actually,

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I think I was referring to the area around al-Bab.

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And Michael, as you know,

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and many of you in the room here probably know,

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that around al-Bab, all the forces that are acting

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in Syria have converged, literally,

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within hand-grenade range of one another.

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Just this week, we have seen...

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Last week, we saw Turk and Turk proxy forces fighters

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converge with Syrian regime and Syrian proxy fighters.

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ISIS being in the mix there.

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We have

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YPG, Syrian Democratic Force fighters

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and Syrian Arab Coalition fighters also

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right bumping up against each other there.

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And then here in the last 48 hours,

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we've seen Syrian regime forces advance

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through ISIS-held villages to,

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essentially, rifle range or hand-grenade range with

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Syrian Arab Coalition fighters

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holding the area around Manbij.

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Meanwhile,

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yesterday, we had some Russian aircraft and regime aircraft

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bomb some villages that

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I believe they thought were held by ISIS,

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yet they were actually on the ground

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where some of our Syrian Arab Coalition forces.

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They had seen ISIS move out of the area

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as the regime and the Turks advanced.

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The ISIS fighters withdrew, and the Syrian

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Arab Coalition fighters advanced into those villages.

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So, I just described, tried to describe,

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a very complicated battlefield situation where, essentially,

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three armies and an enemy force

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have all converged within the same grid square.

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It's very difficult and complicated.

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And so I'm just trying.

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That was my attempt to say,

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everybody should keep their sights

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focused on ISIS,

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and that's what we ought to keep our

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efforts focused on, and not fighting

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deliberately or accidentally with one another.

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That's what I meant.

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- A quick followup.

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Sir, what were the villages that the Russians bombed?

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Were there any US or coalition advisors

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with the Syrian Arab Coalition

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in that vicinity when they were bombed?

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And had there been communications

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with the Russians about this?

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- I don't really recall off the top of my head.

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I think you maybe asked me

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what the name of the village was.

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I don't remember the name of the village.

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They're just a bunch of little villages in the area there.

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South and East of al-Bab.

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There were US forces in the area.

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Not that close.

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They were four or five kilometers away.

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Because remember, we're not fighting,

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we're not at the front.

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We're advising at command echelons

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a little bit farther back.

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So they were back.

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They observed these strikes.

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It became apparent that the strikes were

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falling on some of the Syrian Arab Coalition positions.

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And some quick calls were made

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through our deconfliction channels,

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and the Russians acknowledged and

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stopped bombing there.

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And so we worked out an arrangement, a deconfliction.

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This is something that goes on daily in the air.

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Not everyday on the ground, but daily in the air,

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there is a deconfliction arrangement with the Russians.

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And we used that mechanism, and it worked.

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- Any Arab Coalition, Syrian Arab casualties

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as a result of the Russian bombing?

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- I think...

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You were sort of cut off.

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I think you asked if there were casualties.

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There were some casualties from that bombing, there were.

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- Among the SAC, among the SAC forces,

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among the Syrian Arab Coalition forces,

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they took some casualties?

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- Yes.

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- Next, we'll go to,

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I'm sorry, Laurent.

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May want to give him a microphone since he's further back.

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- About these Russian bombings,

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can you say how far the villages were from Manbij?

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- I think your question was how far were these villages

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from Manbij.

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I don't know.

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A good number of kilometers.

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In fact, I have a map here in my pocket.

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I'll pull it out and see if I can figure it out here.

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I don't know, probably

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15 or 20 kilometers, or more, I think,

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but I'm not really sure.

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Just roughly, looking at my map,

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it looks like they were about,

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like I said, 15 or 20 kilometers from Manbij city.

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- Thank you.

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I have another question.

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I would like to ask you,

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should the SDF lead the assault against Raqqa?

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Do they have enough equipment, weapons to do it?

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Or will they need to be given

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additional equipment or weapons?

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- Okay.

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I think I understood your question.

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Should the SDF lead the assault on Raqqa?

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Will they need additional weapons and equipment?

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I believe that they will.

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I think we're still in decision-making stages

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as to whether or not

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we will assault Raqqa with the SDF

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and what equipment they might need.

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But I would just say this.

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I've watched.

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For more than four months now, I've watched the Iraqi

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modern combined arms army attacking Mosul.

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The Iraqis have

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all of the modern types of body armor,

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armored vehicles, tanks, artillery,

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fighter jets, helicopters,

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and they're having a hard time.

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It's a challenging fight, taking Mosul.

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So I think if I transpose that to Raqqa,

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the Syrian Democratic Forces are

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in your regular light infantry force, mounted mostly

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in pickup trucks.

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So they have very few heavy weapons.

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So if I compare these two forces

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and I envision

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the Syrian Democratic Forces assaulting Raqqa,

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a not unsubstantial city,

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I think that they'll probably need additional combat power.

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But those decisions have yet to be taken.

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- Next, to Jim Michaels of USA Today.

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- General, in your conversations with the Iraq officials,

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have they indicated to you a desire to have continued

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training beyond the current fight?

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- Okay.

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So, yes, I have heard Iraqi officials

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express a desire to have a continued US presence here

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after the ISIL fight.

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I think that probably both of our governments,

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the government of Iraq and the US government,

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are interested in that,

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but both those governments have yet to make that decision.

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We're just not there yet,

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if or what that might look like.

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We're kind of focused on the current fight right now

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that I still think has a ways to go.

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But both governments have expressed an interest in that.

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- Just a quick followup.

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The current training of Iraqi forces,

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is that mostly involved with police now

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to provide a follow-on security force?

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Or are there still training going on

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of Iraqi army combat formations as well?

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- We do have a particular focus

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on training Iraqi police right now,

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particularly for Ninawa province where Mosul is.

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Because we're trying to train and field

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the Ninawa hold force.

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The long-term solution for security in these

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towns, and villages, and cities are Iraqi police.

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So we're very focused on that.

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That said, we're still training

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all types of Iraqi Security Forces.

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Just today, I was out in Anbar,

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visiting some of our partner capacity building,

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partner capacity sites,

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our training sites out there,

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and I saw Iraqi Army soldiers training,

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and I saw Iraqi border guard troops training as well.

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Training border guards for when they eventually secure,

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resecure their sovereign border with Syria.

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So, we're training all types

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of Iraqi Security Forces currently.

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We have a special emphasis on police from Ninawa

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because that's a current need.

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But we're looking down the road

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and training all types of them,

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and, in fact, we've

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building a program with the government of Iraq

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to start retraining forces after

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ISIS is defeated.

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We'll start retraining those forces to secure

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Iraq into the future.

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- Next, we'll go to Paul McLeary from Foreign Policy.

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- Hi, General, thanks for doing this.

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There's been a lot of talk about safe zones

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in Syria recently.

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Given the situation in al-Bab,

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I mean, it shows how complicated it is,

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what would you need to create a safe zone?

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And would the North or the South be better

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in order to do something like this?

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- Okay.

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I think your question was about safe zones

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and what would I need.

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We're considering what it might take to do safe zones.

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We haven't been directed to establish any safe zones.

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I guess my first question would be

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safe zones for who, from what?

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We are building safe zones right now

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for all Iraqis and all Syrians to be safe from ISIS.

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Those are the safe zones we're building right now.

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We're building them not just in the North or the South,

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but all over Iraq and Syria, safe from ISIS.

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We haven't been directed

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to create any safe zones beyond that.

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We're focused on our current fight to defeat ISIS.

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So I'll just leave it at that.

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- Next, to Luis Martinez with ABC.

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You should give him a microphone.

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- Hi, General, thank you for doing this.

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Just a quick followup on the Syrian Arab Coalition

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casualties that you mentioned in al-Bab.

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Were there fatalities among those fighters?

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And what numbers are we talking about?

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And then I have another question, sir.

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- Okay.

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We don't announce casualty figures for our partners.

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We let our partners do that.

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So, I don't care to

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go into the characterization of the casualties

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or the number and type.

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What was your followup question, or your second question?

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- Sir, thank you.

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I've heard you mention now,

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Abu Kamal and Al-Qa'im,

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talking about their freedom of movement there and how the

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ISIS leaders seem to gravitate there.

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Is that their next safe haven in the area?

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And is it safe to assume

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that will be the next focus of your

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operations after the conclusion of

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Raqqa and Mosul, whenever that happens?

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Or is it more timely to go at them right now?

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- Okay.

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I think anywhere we're not attacking

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is sort of a safe haven for the enemy and their leaders,

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and we know they like to go there

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because they can transit the border

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with relative ease in the Abu Kamal-Al-Qa'im area.

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We're hunting down there, hunting for leaders,

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and we strike them with some regularity down there.

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But it's a bit out of our reach right now.

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Our partners' reach, really.

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It's out of our partners' reach right now.

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They're focused on Mosul,

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and they will turn their attention

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to Al-Qa'im and Abu Kamal in due course.

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So, for now, right now,

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I think the Iraqi,

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or the ISIS leaders

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probably do gravitate to areas like that

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and anywhere else where we're not currently pressuring.

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I don't care to talk about when we might get

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to Abu Kamal and Al-Qa'im.

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I'd prefer to have the enemy surprised

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to learn that information.

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So I won't talk about that.

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- And next, this is last here, to Idrees Ali from Reuters.

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- Two quick followups.

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Firstly, on the Kurds participating in Raqqa.

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You said they would take part in the Raqqa operation

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in one form or another.

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They're obviously already a part of the isolation phase.

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So are you saying they could go into Raqqa

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to clear it out?

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- Okay, I heard the second part of the question.

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Could Kurds go into Raqqa to clear it out?

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I did not understand the first part of your question,

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which I think is related to the second.

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Could you repeat the first part of the question over?

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- I was just saying you said they would take part,

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that the Kurds would take part in the Iraq operation

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in one form or another.

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And since they're already taking part in the isolation,

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are you saying that they're gonna go into Raqqa?

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- Well, no, I'm not saying that.

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I'm saying they're taking part in the isolation.

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They are moving on that.

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They will isolate Raqqa.

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We're still going through

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various planning iterations to determine exactly

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what the composition of the assault force

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for Raqqa will be.

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Do I anticipate that there will be some Kurds in that force?

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Yes, I do.

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First of all, because there are Kurds from Raqqa.

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That's predominantly an Arab area,

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but there are Kurds from there.

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There are gonna be Kurds assaulting Raqqa for sure.

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The number, the size of them,

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and how many Kurdish units are participating,

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I can't really say right now.

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So, will Kurds go into Raqqa?

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Yes, I think if they're Raqqawis,

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they will go

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into Raqqa with all of the Arabs and all the Turkmen,

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and everybody else.

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Raqqa is a significant majority of Raqqawis,

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as we refer to them, or Arabs.

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But they're like just about any other city in this region,

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and our own country, as a matter of fact,

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who've got a mix of peoples, right?

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Definitely a religious mixing in Raqqa, in the city,

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and in the larger province around it.

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So, yeah.

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There'll be Kurds attacking Raqqa,

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and there'll be Kurds in Raqqa.

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The size of that force, I don't know.

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That's still being considered.

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- A quick followup.

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Earlier on, you said that you don't foresee

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any large number of coalition forces,

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additional coalition forces being brought

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into Iraq and Syria.

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Given that the plan was just submitted on Monday

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by the Pentagon, I guess,

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what else do you need, if not additional troops,

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in the region?

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- As I said when that question was asked earlier,

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I submitted my recommendations and advice

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to my military leaders,

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and they submitted that

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to the secretary of defense, who's submitted it

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to the president,

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and I don't care to comment any further

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while our leadership makes these decisions.

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- [Michael] Could we just clarify?

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When did the Russian strike take place?

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What day did the Russian strike take place, sir?

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General? Was it yesterday?

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- I'm sorry?

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- [Michael] Just a point of clarification.

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When did the Russian airstrike take place?

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- Yesterday.

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- Okay, General, thank you very much for your time.

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I don't know if you had any further

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closing comments for us, otherwise, we will sign off.

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- No.

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Thanks for your questions tonight.

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Sorry I couldn't be more forthcoming about

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some of our future plans.

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You have to understand that,

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first of all, I want to give our leaders

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a chance to consider

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the recommendations they've received

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from the whole chain of command

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and not pressure them one way or the other.

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So I couldn't be that forthcoming on that.

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Sorry about that.

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Also, I really don't want the enemy to know what our

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future plans are.

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I prefer the enemy to find out about them

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as they are unfolding.

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So, thanks for being patient with that.

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I know several of you asked those types of questions.

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I couldn't really answer them.

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Also, as far as the makeup

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of the force that's going to Raqqa,

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here's what I think.

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They're Syrians.

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That's who's going to Raqqa.

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Syrians are gonna go liberate Raqqa.

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When Raqqa is liberated, whatever force it is,

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we're all very focused on turning it over to local control.

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In fact, there's an international effort

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that's looking at the post-liberation governance

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and stabilization of Raqqa,

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and that effort is designed to turn it over to local

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control for security

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and local control for governance.

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So, I'm not really sure it really matters what the

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composition of the force that goes there to liberate it.

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What matters, really, in my mind,

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is the composition of the force that stays there

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and governs and secures Raqqa

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after its liberated from ISIS.

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I think, probably, most Syrians and most Iraqis

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are welcoming of anybody who's coming

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to help liberate them from ISIS.

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That's what I've seen.

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They're not that picky.

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But who sticks around matters,

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and that ought to be local folks

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who stick around, and govern, and secure

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Raqqa, and Mosul, and Al-Qa'im, and Manbij,

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and any of those places that have been

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liberated from,

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or will be liberated from ISIS.

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And last, I'd just like to say again

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how proud I am of the troopers,

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the US and our coalition partners here,

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some 30 nations contributing troops here

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in our coalition against ISIS,

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and they are helping our partner forces,

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and they are keeping this region and our own

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countries, our homeland safe

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from the threat that is ISIS.

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I would like all Americans

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to keep them in their thoughts and prayers.

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Thanks.

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- Thank you, General.

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We look forward to seeing you again soon.

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Thank you, everybody.

