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- Hey, guys, apologies for running a little late.

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(speaking off microphone)

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Yes, but I was early yesterday.

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Anyway, let’s get started.

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I’m happy to make this as quick as you want.

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So let’s start off with the end of the Brussels conference

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today, Secretary Kerry is, of course,

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on route back to the United States.

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He concluded his participation in the Brussels Conference

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on Afghanistan earlier today.

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He reiterated the U.S.’s commitment to Afghanistan’s

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stability, progress, and prosperity.

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The conference reaffirmed the international community’s

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steadfast support for Afghanistan’s continued development,

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and at the conclusion of the conference, the international

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partners confirmed their intention to provide $15.2 billion

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in support of Afghanistan’s development

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priorities from 2017 to 2020.

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Also wanted to note today the United States joins more than

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40 nations to issue a Joint Declaration for the Export

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and Subsequent Use of Armed or Strike-Enabled UAVs,

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unmanned aerial systems.

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The declaration’s a political commitment by its signatories

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that underscores growing international consensus that UAVs

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are subject to international law and stresses the need for

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transparency about exports and represents, we believe,

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an important first step towards comprehensive international

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standards for the transfer and subsequent use of UAVs.

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This joint declaration will serve as the basis for

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discussions on a more detailed set of international

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standards for the export and subsequent use of armed

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or strike-enabled UAVs, which the United States

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and its partners will convene in the spring of 2017.

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These discussions will be open to all countries,

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even if they chose not to join the joint declaration.

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- [Matt] Mark--

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- Yes, sir, of course.

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- [Matt] Are you physically unable to

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pronounce the word “drone?”

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- (chuckles) Drone.

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- [Matt] There you go, okay, thank you.

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- As a world leader in the development

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and deployment of military UAVs, the United States

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seeks to promote efforts to ensure the responsible

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export and subsequent use of this

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rapidly developing technology.

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Finally, I know many of you were on the call earlier today,

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but regarding the effects of Hurricane Matthew,

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we obviously continue to track its path very closely.

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President Obama spoke to the impact of the hurricane this

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morning, and as I noted, we held an on-the-record call.

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The, earlier today the U.S. Agency for

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International Development announced an additional $1 million

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in humanitarian assistance, including food vouchers,

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food rations, cash transfers, and meals at evacuation

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shelters for communities in Haiti that were affected by

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Hurricane Matthew.

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This brings the total USAID humanitarian assistance

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for regional Hurricane Matthew relief

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efforts to 1.5 million.

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This new funding comes the day after USAID activated its

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Disaster Assistant Response Team in the Central Caribbean.

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This team has deployed to Haiti, to Jamaica, and to the

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Bahamas, where they’re continuing, with the governments of

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the affected countries and the humanitarian organizations on

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the ground, to bring vital humanitarian assistance

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to those in need.

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We continue to advise U.S. citizens in affected areas to

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make preparations immediately to shelter in place in a

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secure location and to follow the emergency instructions

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provided by local authorities.

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Matt, I don’t know if you got up-to-date information

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about the embassies that you’d asked about yesterday.

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- [Matt] I did.

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- You’re good?

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Okay, if anybody else is interested,

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Embassy Nassau closed for routine consular services

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October 5th through 7th.

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The airports in Nassau and Freeport remain open.

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In the Dominican Republic, Embassy Santo Domingo is open

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with limited operations October 4th,

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and American Citizen Services has officers present to assist

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any U.S. citizens.

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And finally, Haiti, Port-au-Prince is closed for routine

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consular services October 4th and 5th

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and has advised U.S. citizens to shelter in place.

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I think that’s all I have, so over to you, Matt.

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- All right, let’s just start with Syria first.

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So the Russian foreign ministry says that Secretary Kerry

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and Foreign Minister Lavrov spoke again today about Syria.

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Is that correct?

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- They did, earlier today.

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- All right, I’m very, very confused, I thought--

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- [Mark] Don’t be confused.

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- Just two days ago you said that they, that this bilateral

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contact had been suspended.

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That’s a quick suspension unless the situation

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on the ground has changed.

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- No, look, Matt.

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- [Matt] I mean, do you guys actually do

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anything that you say?

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- Come on, Matt.

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- [Matt] What?

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- No, I mean, look.

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Engagement remains, so what we talked about the other day

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was bilateral engagement with regard to Syria.

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That remains suspended, but it certainly doesn’t preclude

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the two foreign, the two, well, the Secretary of State

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and Foreign Minister Lavrov from talking.

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- [Matt] That’s, you don’t consider that to be engagement?

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- That’s not, and we’ve been very clear--

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- [Matt] Well, what did they do, then?

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Yell at each other?

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- Well, not at all but look, first of all,

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it would be irresponsible for us, given what’s happening in

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Aleppo, not to touch base with Foreign Minister Lavrov

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periodically but also I can say in the last 24 hours

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Secretary Kerry has spoken to his counterparts in the UK,

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in Germany, in France, or not France, rather,

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in Germany, Turkey, the EU, and Qatar.

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And as you know, Under Secretary Tom Shannon

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is in Berlin today attending that meeting.

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I would say the conversation, which also touched on Ukraine,

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I’m talking about the conversation he had with

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Foreign Minister Lavrov, also touched on Ukraine

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and North Korea, but it was part of those multilateral

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efforts now that are going to continue because we recognize

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they’ve got to be part of the conversation.

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What happened the other day, the suspension, had to do with

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that particular bilateral cooperation that we had thought we

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had reached a conclusion on on September 10th in Geneva.

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That effort is suspended,

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but that doesn’t preclude us from talking.

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- [Matt] Well, okay, then I--

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- What’s your, go ahead.

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- I mean, usually when a government comes out

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and says that it’s not going to talk to another government

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anymore about something, that means you don’t

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talk to them anymore, so--

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- That’s not true, Matt, and in fact, I would argue,

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I would argue to the contrary, that it would almost be

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irresponsible for us not to have any conversations with

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Foreign Minister Lavrov and with the Russians going forward

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about the situation on the ground in Syria.

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- [Matt] Well, yeah, but what, but Victoria

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was in Moscow today.

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- Of course.

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- Yeah, I know, but I mean, this is the big one.

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- [Mark] To talk about Ukraine.

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- Right, but the big thing here,

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the big bilateral engagement that was going on was

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between the Secretary and the foreign minister.

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So if you, when you come out and you say two days

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ago that you’re going to suspend the engagement,

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and then 48, less than 48 hours later the engagement has

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resumed without any change in the situation on the ground,

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it just looks kind of odd, no?

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- No, because--

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- [Matt] Okay, it does to me.

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- It doesn’t change the facts on the ground, as you note.

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We don’t have a cessation of hostilities.

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We don’t have humanitarian access.

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We don’t have any of the elements,

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the core elements of that September 10th agreement

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in the process of being implemented or implemented.

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There’s no, going to be no Joint Implementation Center.

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None of the, if you will, carrots either for Russia

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or at least what Russia proclaimed to want,

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that Joint Implementation Center is moving forward as well.

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But I think, and I tried to stress this yesterday,

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while that particular bilateral channel is now suspended,

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we’re not going to just walk away from what’s happening in

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Syria, we’re going to try to, on the multilateral front,

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try to coordinate with likeminded partners and allies

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and stakeholders, and that includes Russia and Iran.

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Unfortunately, that does include them.

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- All right, so this, then, you would characterize

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this conversation as a bilateral engagement

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in a multilateral setting?

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Is that what you’re trying to say?

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Kind of like--

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- In a multilateral effort.

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- Kind of like the way you used to talk to the

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North Koreans?

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Bilaterally, as part of the Six-Party Talks?

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Is that, I mean, I’m just trying to figure it out,

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because it’s very--

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- No, no, no, I understand it.

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- I just don’t understand if you,

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you tell the Russians one thing and then you turn around

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and don’t follow through on it.

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I mean, that’s what it looks like to me.

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So I appreciate your argument that that’s not what it is,

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but I just think it’s very confusing.

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- Well, optics aside, what it is was simply a call.

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They talked about a number of issues.

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They did talk about the situation on the ground in Syria.

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My argument back to you would be it would be irresponsible

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for Secretary Kerry not to raise what’s happening

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in Syria and make our concerns clear

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about what’s happening there but that doesn’t mean that--

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- Right, yeah, it may be irresponsible

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but it’s not a suspension.

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That means that the contact hasn’t been suspended.

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So that’s what I’m saying.

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I’m done, so--

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- [Journalist] French Foreign Minister Ayrault

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is going to Moscow.

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Is he going there bilaterally as part of this multilateral--

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- (Laughing) Look, all right, I get it.

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But I mean, Foreign Minister Ayrault is trying to pursue

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a French proposal.

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I’ll leave it for them to talk about the details of it.

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But I think in the wake of the failure of us to implement

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in any meaningful way the December, or the December,

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the September 10th agreement, other options need to be

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looked at, both internally, by that I mean within the

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interagency in the U.S. but also externally

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with all of our multilateral partners.

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So we’re talking to the ISSG and we’re talking to other

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likeminded partners and allies, and that’s pretty much the,

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what’s happening today in Berlin.

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- But we shouldn’t expect there to be fewer calls

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between the Secretary and the foreign minister?

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- I can’t predict the frequency of their contact.

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- [Man In Navy Shirt] So around about three or four a week?

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- Again, how I would characterize this is we’re not going

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to stop talking altogether.

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We were very clear about this is a suspension

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of bilateral cooperation with regard to Syria.

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But the--

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- [Matt] But then they were on the phone talking about

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bilateral cooperation in Syria just today.

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- That’s not at all, that’s not at all true.

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They did talk about Syria briefly,

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the situation on the ground.

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Again, the Secretary would be remiss, frankly,

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not to raise our concerns about what’s happening there.

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But let’s go back to what we were talking about with

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bilateral cooperation.

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It was a nationwide, credible, cessation of hostilities.

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It was this Joint Implementation Center,

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which would have had us working with Russia to carry out

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strikes against Nusrah and Al-Qaeda.

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All that’s suspended right now.

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- [Journalist] But, Mark, you’ve been talking

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to the Russians for four years

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and we’ve seen the results this week.

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- I can’t argue that the Russians seem intent on

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carrying out the strikes they continue to carry out in

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support of Assad against, or yeah, against the civilian

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population of Aleppo, and we’re going to continue to raise

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our serious concerns about it.

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- Why the timing now to talk about Ukraine

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and North Korea?

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I mean, is there something urgent?

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- I mean, with regard to Ukraine, certainly as Matt stole

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my thunder, but Assistant Secretary Victoria Nuland,

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is in actually Moscow I believe today.

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She may be wheels up.

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I’m not sure, but specifically there--

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- [Matt] The embassy in Moscow stole your thunder not me.

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- Just joking but she’s there specifically to work

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on what we’ve made a priority,

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which is implementation of the Minsk Agreements.

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- Did you talk about the harassment of the U.S. diplomats?

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- I don’t know, I don’t know if that came up.

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- [Journalist] And on Berlin meeting,

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do you have any readout?

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- I don’t, I tried to get a readout.

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It’s just wrapping up, frankly, so I’ll try to get it.

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If we have something meaningful to say about it later today,

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we’ll get that to you guys.

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- And Secretary Kerry when he comes tomorrow,

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he will receive the French foreign minister.

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He will see him here or--

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- I’m not sure if we’ve confirmed that

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or announced it yet, so.

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- Russia today announced it’s suspending or terminating two

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more cooperation agreements with the United States

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as follows the decree by Vladimir Putin on Monday.

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What do you have on that?

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And what does this say about the deteriorating state of

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U.S.-Russian relations right now based

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on everything else we’ve discussed here today?

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- Yeah, I think you’re talking about some of these reports

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we’ve seen, we’ve just seen, frankly,

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media reports on this so far, so we’ve yet to receive

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official notification from the Russians about the

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suspension of an agreement on cooperation in nuclear

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and energy-related scientific research.

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If they’re accurate, we would regret the Russian decision to

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unilaterally suspend cooperation on what we believe is a

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very important issue that’s in the interest

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of both of our countries.

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- And how do you assess the current state of

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U.S.-Russian relations?

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- How do we assess it?

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I think our assessment is while we have failed to cooperate

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meaningfully in this recent effort on Syria,

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we continue to disagree where we disagree with Russia,

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and that’s on Ukraine, certainly with what’s happening in

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Syria right now, and in other areas.

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But where we can cooperate constructively,

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such as nuclear agreements, and in fact,

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the other day they suspended this Plutonium Management

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and Disposition Agreement, that’s a real tragedy,

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because these are areas that we had successfully

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cooperated in the past.

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And again, it’s in the interest of our both our

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countries to continue those efforts.

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Please.

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- On Syria, regarding the options that U.S. Government

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is discussing, are you getting close to the decision?

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Any meetings that you can talk about?

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- I don’t want to necessarily preview some of our internal

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U.S. Government meetings.

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I’ll just say that we continue our efforts to look at

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different options in the range of

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what I talked about yesterday.

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Yeah, please.

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- The pro-Kurdish party in Syria, the PYD,

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now controls significant areas of northern Syria,

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and they’re going to hold a conference, they’ve said,

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this weekend to announce the establishment of a federal

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system in the three cantons that they’re now administering.

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What’s your position on this?

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- Well, our persistent, position rather, excuse me,

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has been that the future of Syria should be decided by

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Syrians consistent with the political transition

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and election process that was outlined in the UN Security

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Council Resolution 2254, and that resolution states that

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the Syrian people will decide the future of Syria

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and that the Geneva Communique should be the basis of a

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Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political transition.

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Put more simply, we support the territorial integrity of

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Syria and we also support a unified,

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democratic Syria in which the rights of

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all groups are protected.

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So in direct response to your question,

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we’d urge Syrian parties, all Syrian parties to work

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together in a manner consistent with UN Security Council

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Resolution 2254 in order to advance that political process.

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So what we don’t want are groups working on the margin

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creating their own systems or their own de facto states.

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This all needs to be worked out to a political transition

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that’s enshrined in UN Security Council Resolution 2254.

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- That sounds like you don’t support this.

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- I said what we do support.

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I tried to be affirmative in my description.

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Please, in the back, Michael.

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Sorry.

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One more Syria.

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- Did you see this report by experts that were working with

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the ISSG about the strike on the aid convoy?

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Their claim, the report is claiming that it was a

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well-prepared stage, refuting reports

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that it was an airstrike.

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- Yeah, Michael, I did see those reports,

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and we’ve been very clear laying out what we know occurred

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in that strike against a humanitarian convoy,

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and that any bogus reports to the contrary

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don’t refute that.

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- [Man In Black Suit Jacket] Have you received this report,

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analyzed it?

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- We’ve actually seen no signs of any kind

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of report like this.

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I have no idea where that came from.

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Again, what we have said has been based on our best

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intelligence estimates of what, assessments, rather,

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of what happened and I just would strike down

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any kind of bogus reports to the contrary.

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- On, just one more on this, on Aleppo.

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Have you seen reports or are you aware of certain groups

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from either side preventing civilians from leaving

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the city or, the eastern part of the city?

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- By any groups, I have not.

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- Well, I mean either by the moderate rebels

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that you support, by Nusrah, by the government, by--

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- That are actually preventing Syrian, citizens, rather,

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civilians, rather, from leaving?

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I’ve not, no.

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Please go ahead.

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- I don’t know if you’ve already spoken about this,

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but what is the U.S. perspective on the idea of the

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UN Security Council adopting criteria to restrain members

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from using a veto when there are concerns about

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them having committed war crimes?

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I haven’t actually seen that and I don’t want to necessarily

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preview how we would vote, but certainly,

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we take those, it’s an important issue.

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We take those kind of questions into consideration,

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but I don’t have anything to kind of preview.

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Are we, yes.

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- [Matt] This will be quick, I think.

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- Yeah, sure, go ahead.

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- I just wanted to ask you about the

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statement on the settlement.

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- [Mark] Oh, yeah, of course.

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- It’s pretty clear that you’re unhappy about

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this announcement, both what the announcement was

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and the timing of it, timing of it for two reasons.

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So my question is one that’s been asked many times before,

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but if, in fact, you feel this strongly about settlements

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and if, in fact, all of your previous denunciations

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and condemnations of them have gone to, have gone unheeded

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or un-listened to, what is the point of coming out

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with these statements repeatedly

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and expecting a change in behavior?

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When, if you think it’s this important,

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is there actually going to be a,

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even a threat of a consequence?

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- Sure, first of all, you’re talking about the statement

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we issued a short time ago.

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I do want to condemn, though, the fact that we’ve seen

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reports of rocket file, fire, rather, from Gaza into Israel.

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We would strongly condemn rockets and other attacks from

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Gaza into Israel and urge all parties

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to avoid any escalation.

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I think with respect to your question, Matt,

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starting from the fundamental principle that our commitment

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to Israel’s security is unshakeable, and we just concluded,

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obviously, the memorandum of understanding that was alluded

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to in the statement, and that commitment stands,

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but when we see Israel carry out this kind of action,

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new settlement activity, announcement of new settlement

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activity, that, frankly, contradicts its stated goal

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to have or to achieve or pursue a two-state solution,

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it raises serious concerns and we have to publicly

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and privately convey those concerns to

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the Government of Israel.

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I recognize your question and the,

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is that our comments have no effect.

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We still believe it’s important to make clear how we view

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the situation on the ground and the effects of these kinds

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of actions are having on Israel’s long-term viability

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as a democratic state in that region and a Jewish state

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in that region.

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This stuff only sets us, sets back the two-state

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peace process, a two-state solution, and makes it harder.

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- Okay, so your comment just now, does that,

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that’s an acknowledgement from the Administration that you

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have no leverage with Israel, despite the fact that you give

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them billions of dollars every year?

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- Again, we believe, we believe,

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well, no, first of all--

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- That your words have no effect.

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So is, are you acknowledging or is the Administration

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acknowledging that it doesn’t have any sway,

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any pull with Israel?

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- What I would say is, and it’s important that we continue

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to convey to Israel, when we see actions that we believe

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are counter to Israel’s long-term security interests

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and counter to their stated goal of

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pursuing a two-state solution.

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And when we see that, we’re going to call it like we see it

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and we’re going to convey that.

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- [Matt] But you don’t actually expect them to do anything

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about it, is that--

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- I can’t speak for what, whether their behavior is going

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to change or how their behavior is going to change.

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- No, I mean the Administration.

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You say these things but you don’t actually expect

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them to act on them?

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- Well, of course.

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We wouldn’t say them unless we were mindful

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and hopeful that they would absorb them and act in a way

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that was consistent with, as I said,

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their long-term interests and, frankly, in the long,

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in the even short to midterm goal of creating the kind of

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climate on the ground that is, would even lead to the

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possibility of negotiations and a two-state solution.

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- Well, since you, since you started,

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since the United States starting, started opposing

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this kind of activity decades ago--

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- [Mark] And you’re right, decades ago in--

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- Yeah.

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- Republican and, as I’d say.

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- Yes, yes, I know, you read through the whole thing.

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Has it ever, have you ever seen,

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have you ever had any success?

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- Well, yeah.

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- I realize there have been short-term freezes,

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but it just seems to me that if you feel

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this strongly about it to come out with a statement

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like this that talks about the MOU that was just signed

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and President Peres’s death, if you come out with

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a statement that strong, don’t, I mean,

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don’t you expect it to have some kind of an effect?

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- [Mark] Yes, we do.

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- You clearly feel strongly about it.

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But you, you do expect it to have some kind of effect,

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but you know that it won’t?

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- You’re saying that, I was simply responding to your

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question that we don’t have, we’re not going to take

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any action.

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What I was trying to make clear--

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- [Matt] Is that correct?

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You’re not going to do anything?

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- Well, again, we, our action is that--

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- [Matt] Other than trying to make them feel bad?

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- No, but our action is that we convey to them both publicly

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and privately and to the world when we see Israel conducting

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itself in a way that runs counter to its security interests.

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- Mark, I’m curious, with respect to yourself and to the

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podium, you issued this statement from a spokesman.

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Now, your language has got tougher over the past few months,

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but isn’t it time for Secretary Kerry or for President Obama

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to be using the kind of language that you’re using

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from the podium today?

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- Well, there have been times in the past when it has come,

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these kinds of words have come from either Secretary Kerry

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or President Obama, and the message is always the same,

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which is we view settlements as counterproductive

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and counter to Israel’s interests.

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We’re going to keep up with that message

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and we’re going to keep conveying it to the Israeli

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Government when they take these kinds of actions.

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I think this one was, as we noted in the statement,

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particularly exceptional in the fact that it came mere days

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after we had concluded this memorandum of understanding,

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and also in the wake of one of Israel’s leading statesmen,

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Shimon Peres’s death.

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- Let me just press the point that Matt did

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a bit further, because you tie it, you say,

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you talk about the memo of understanding,

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you talk about the largest deal you just concluded.

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And in fact, again, towards the end, you say how this will

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only draw a great deal of criticism and, basically,

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condemnation from the international community

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and distance Israel from many of its partners.

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Why not, then?

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Why not go to the Security Council or the United Nation,

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where you can have an international, some sort of a decision

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that can impose sanctions.

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I mean, you’ve imposed sanctions on others that, basically,

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do not adhere to international law by any measure.

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- I mean, look, with regard to the UN Security Council

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and any action at the UN, our position hasn’t changed.

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We’re always concerned, frankly, about one-sided resolutions

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or other actions that could be taken within the UN,

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and we’re always going to oppose those kinds of resolutions

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that we believe delegitimize Israel’s, Israel

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and undermine its security.

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But we’re going to carefully consider our future engagement,

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if and when we reach that point, and determine how to most

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effectively pursue and advance the objective that we all at

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least claim to share, which is that of achieving a

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negotiated two-state solution.

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That work is going to continue with our international

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partners and we’re going to continue to make clear when we

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have concerns, such as we do today,

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with regard to Israel’s actions.

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We’re going to make those concerns clear

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to the Israeli Government.

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- But you have done that time and time again.

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I mean, obviously, you believe that Israel is addicted to

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the expansion of settlements.

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Isn’t that in a way, and you keep pumping money,

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isn’t that in a way like someone giving their son

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drug money to continue doing what they’re doing?

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Don’t you want to stop at one point and say,

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“Enough is enough?”

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Because you’re saying when you get to that point,

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it’s been 50 years since this occupation has taken place.

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- Said, so let’s just separate the two issues.

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So our ironclad commitment to Israel’s security is both in

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Israel’s security, national security interests,

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but it’s also in the U.S.’s national security interests.

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The U.S. is safer when there is a safe

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and secure Israel in the region.

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But that’s particularly why we find its actions

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so befuddling, when it takes actions such as continued

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settlement activity that run counter to what we’re all

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trying to achieve here.

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And so we’re going to continue to press that case to them.

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We have a very close and very frank

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and candid relationship with Israel.

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We’re going to continue to call it like we see it,

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and when we see this kind of activity that we believe is

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counterproductive, we’re going to say so.

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- Is it because it feels good?

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Because you feel that you would like to say it

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or because you--

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- No, I mean, said, we, you know this around the world.

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There are issues that we constantly raise,

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whether it’s in the realm of human rights or whatever.

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It doesn’t preclude us from having cooperation with any

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government in any other area, but we’re also frank when we

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see something that we believe runs counter to their

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interests and our interests, that we make that clear.

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- I appreciate you indulging me, but you keep saying that

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the UN is a forum that is somehow inherently opposed to

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Israel, while in fact,

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it was created through that UN organization.

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But let me ask you this, I mean, if it’s,

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this is in occupied territory, which you acknowledge,

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and there are laws that pertain to what is,

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what is the occupying power’s rights and privileges

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or obligations under international law,

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why not push forward, put your weight behind what is

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internationally lawful in this case,

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and bringing Israel to bear on these issues,

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holding it to account?

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- Look, I’m just going to say we’re working

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on this bilaterally.

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We’re working with other international partners.

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We’re just not convinced that the UN is the right

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venue for that.

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- My last one.

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You said that when the time comes.

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When will the time come?

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When do you, in your opinion?

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When no longer there is any kind of land to

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establish a Palestinian state on?

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Is that, like, maybe at 10% more of the land?

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20% more of the land?

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- Well, and, said, we said as much in the statement

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that was issued, that it’s getting to the point,

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especially given the geographic location of this latest

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settlement announcement where a Palestinian,

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a viable Palestinian state becomes increasingly

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difficult to imagine.

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Please, sir, in the back.

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Ukraine.

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- I actually have two questions.

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So the first one is regarding detention of Ukrainian

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journalists in Russia.

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So the international community,

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including European institutions

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and international organizations, concerned about this

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arrest, and two days ago the Department of State said

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that there is no a lot of details to say about it.

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And do you have any statements now?

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- I don’t have much of an update to provide.

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We’re obviously monitoring the situation very closely.

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I’d refer you to Russian and Ukrainian governments

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for the latest on this.

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I don’t have an update to what you just mentioned

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in your question, I apologize.

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- Are you in connection with Ukrainian Government

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on this issue?

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- I’m sure we’re discussing it with them.

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We’re, again, we’re always concerned when any journalist

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anywhere in the world, but certainly Ukrainian journalists

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in Russia, is arrested or detained.

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We’re monitoring it closely, but I’d refer you to the

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Russian authorities for more details.

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- And the second question, you said that Secretary Kerry

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and Minister Lavrov said today about Ukraine,

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they have a conversation on this issue,

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and Assistant Secretary Nuland is in Moscow.

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Could you comment, what is the current position

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of the United States regarding developments in Ukraine?

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- Well, as we noted, or you noted in your question,

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Assistant Secretary of State for European

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and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland was in Moscow.

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She was joined by National Security Council senior

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directors, both Celeste Wallander as well as Charlie,

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or Charles Kupchan, and they did meet on October 5th

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with Russian officials.

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I think the focus of their trip was in making progress

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on Ukraine, what are the next steps that need to be taken in

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order to get the Minsk agreements fully implemented.

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Just because we suspended cooperation in other areas,

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our bilateral engagement or with regard to Ukraine

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is going to continue.

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And let there be no confusion about that.

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The Minsk agreements remain really the only viable way to

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restore peace and stability in eastern Ukraine,

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and we’re going to continue to support and to push for their

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full implementation, which requires, as you know,

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a real ceasefire, full and unfettered access for OSCE

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monitors, elections under Ukrainian law that meet OSCE

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standards, and the withdrawal of foreign forces

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and equipment, and finally, the return to Ukraine,

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and this is an important one, return to Ukraine

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of control of its side of the international border.

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Obviously, a lot of work still needs to be done in this

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regard, but we still believe that this process,

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the Minsk process, represents the best way to get there.

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Please.

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Iraq, I’m sorry, you, apologize, yeah.

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- The AFP, Agence France-Presse, reports that a U.S.-led

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coalition strike, quote-unquote, most likely killed some 20

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pro-government Sunni tribal fighters near the city of Mosul

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as they were mistaken for ISIL militants.

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Considering the fact that the U.S. helps coordinate Iraqi

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forces gearing up for a Mosul offensive,

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how could this happen?

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- I’m aware of reports of that.

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I honestly, I would just have to refer you to the

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Department of Defense.

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I don’t know the specifics and what has been reported.

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I’m sure that there’s an investigation underway

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looking into the--

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- Just more broadly,

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when the U.S. hit the Syrian military on

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September 17th, officials said they didn’t have good

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intelligence, they didn’t know where they were hitting.

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Would you say in Iraq the U.S. has good intelligence,

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especially with partners on the ground?

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- I mean, I’m not an intelligence officer,

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to put it as bluntly as that.

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I really would point you in the direction of someone who can

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speak about the level of our intelligence cooperation

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with Iraq or, and certainly I would make the assessment,

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though, that our cooperation with the Government of

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Iraq militarily is obviously much closer than what we have

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on the ground in Syria.

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While we have a de-confliction mechanism in place with the

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government of, or the ministry, between our Pentagon

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and the ministry of defense of Russia,

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that only pertains to de-conflicting our operations in order

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to protect the safety of our airmen and airwomen.

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But with regard to intelligence on the ground,

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Syria’s a difficult case because of a lot of factors that

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we’ve talked about on numerous occasions.

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That said, when we assess our intelligence, we make every

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effort to ensure that it’s valid and credible before

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we would carry out any airstrike.

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If that airstrike mistakenly targets the wrong individuals

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or hits civilians, we own that and we conduct a thorough

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investigation and we’re as transparent

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as we possibly can be about it.

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- About these reported mistakes, given several apparent

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mistakes within the past month, including a strike in,

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strike last week in Somalia where the U.S. targeted

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Al-Shabaab militants but ended up reportedly killing 22

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Somali soldiers, would you say U.S. targeting in these

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anti-terrorist operations is precise?

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- We have taken out numerous members of Al-Qaeda

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and ISIL’s senior leadership in both Iraq and Syria

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and elsewhere, Libya as well, and so I think that speaks

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somewhat to the precision of our strikes.

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We’re not barrel bombing civilian targets, hospitals,

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schools, civilians, infrastructure.

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So while on any battlefield errors do occur,

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I would hold our record up with anyone.

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Please.

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- Yesterday Iraqi parliament passed a motion to ask Turkish

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forces to remove from Iraq, and today Iraqi Prime Minister

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Abadi also called on Turkish forces to leave the country,

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and the Turkish foreign minister again said basically Iraq

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parliament does not represent all of Iraqi people.

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And it looks like it’s going to stay there,

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Turkish forces, what’s your position on that?

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- In general, with regard to Iraq, we’ve said this before.

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All of Iraq’s neighbors need to respect Iraqi sovereignty

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and territorial integrity.

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That’s the premise of the counter, the global counter-ISIL

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coalition that it operates under in Iraq,

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and we expect all of our partners to do the same.

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- So Turkey argues that they, Turkish forces are there

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to help the upcoming Mosul operation.

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Do you think that the Turkish forces are helpful there?

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Do you have any recommendation on that front?

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- Well, again, I think part of our ongoing dialogue with

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Turkey, with Iraq, with other forces on the ground,

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with Kurdish forces with regard to Mosul

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and the upcoming operation is coordination

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and making sure that we’re all focused on the same goal here

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and that everyone’s working in strong coordination with

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everyone else to achieve the objective, which is, obviously,

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liberating Mosul and driving Daesh out of Iraq.

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- So in that context, Turkish forces are helpful

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in the coordination, or they are coordinating--

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- I would refer you to, so no, I’m not trying

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to be coy here.

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I’m just trying to say I think it’s up to the Iraqis

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and the Iraqi Government to speak to Turkey’s role in Iraq.

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And it’s important, as I said, that whatever Turkey’s role

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is in Iraq, that it’s coordinated with the Iraqi Government.

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Yeah.

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- [Journalist} I wonder if I could just ask you a Question

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about the UN, seems that the Security Council--

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- I didn’t hear what you said, Iran?

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- [Journalist] I said, no, not Iran.

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I’m sorry, the UN.

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- Oh, UN, okay.

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- It seems that the Security Council just,

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may have just chosen Portuguese diplomat Antonio Guterres

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to succeed Ban Ki-moon.

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Do you have any comment on that?

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- I do.

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We can confirm that today’s straw poll exercise

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in the UN Security Council resulted in the clear

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identification of Antonio Guterres as the preferred

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candidate to be the next UN general, secretary-general.

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We anticipate that the Security Council will hold a formal

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vote tomorrow to confirm his nomination.

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So that’s the next step, and then, obviously,

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after that would be for the full UN membership in the form

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of the General Assembly to consider that nomination.

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So there’s a few steps remaining.

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We would expect the full membership to approve the Security

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Council’s actions, but we’ll wait and see.

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But we’re very pleased to have been a part of this new

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selection process that gave member states and civil society

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opportunity to engage directly with the candidates

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in open fora.

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We welcome the opportunity to be part of these discussions.

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So--

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- Are you in any way disappointed that, there were 12

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candidates, six were women.

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Are you in a way disappointed that not, a woman was not

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chosen for this post?

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- Well, look, the United States as a matter of longstanding

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policy does not make its voting preferences known on secret

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ballot elections.

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We are, however, well acquainted with Mr. Guterres

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for his many years working on the international stage

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and can state with confidence that he possesses the

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leadership qualities that’ll be crucial to serving

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in this vital post.

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This was an election, and so as such, in the selection

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process, I think what’s always important is that there is a

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number of candidates, a diverse set of candidates,

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there were, in this case, and that there was an open fora

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to discuss the qualifications of each one.

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- [Matt] Well, wait a second.

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- Yes, sir.

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- How can you say you clearly supported him.

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I mean, all 15 Security Council ambassadors

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came out and said they had a consensus.

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If you had not supported him then there wouldn’t

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have been a consensus.

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So what, I mean, what is this?

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Plus, the General Assembly vote, isn’t that public?

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- That is.

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- Yeah, they all go to their little buttons

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and push the, and then push them,

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and so what is this, you don’t make a practice of talking

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about your voting preferences?

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- We don’t make a practice of talking about

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our voting preferences.

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- [Journalist] So if it had been eight seven,

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you wouldn’t say which you were coming down?

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- Well, it is said or alleged that you opposed Bulgarian

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diplomat Irina Bokova very strongly.

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Is that true?

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- I’m not going to speak to our voting preferences, Matt.

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Please.

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- [Journalist] Different subject?

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- Yeah, please.

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- [Man With Beard] I just have one, last one on that,

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just for fun.

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(laughing)

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- Because we don’t have enough fun in here.

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- Well, because you mentioned his broad

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international experience.

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Is this the first time you’ve backed the chairman

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of the Socialist International for an international post?

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- You’ve caught me out.

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I don’t know.

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- [Matt] How many other have there been?

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(mumbles) It probably is the first time, isn’t it?

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- I’d have to Google that one (laughing) sorry.

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- Do you have any information you’re able to share about any

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Americans who were injured

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or directly affected by Hurricane Matthew?

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- I do not.

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I don’t know if we talked about this

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in the call earlier today.

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My apologies if it was brought up.

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I don’t think we’ve got, but again,

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this is the kind of assessment that’s going to take,

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not we don’t have an initial,

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we do have an initial assessment,

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but as we’ve seen in the past, natural disasters like this,

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we may not have a full picture for some time.

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I don’t believe, let me quickly look through here

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and see if we have any.

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Well, there you go.

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I’ve got to start listening to those calls.

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(talking over each other)

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- [Mark] Call me out again, that I didn’t read the

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transcript of this morning’s call?

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- It wasn’t in there.

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I don’t, I was on the call.

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I didn’t hear anything directly about that.

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- All right, we’ll have this out afterwards.

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- We’ll have it out after.

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Do you have any intention of creating a working group

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similar to the one that existed after the earthquake

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in Haiti with regards the hurricane?

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- How so?

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In terms of prevention or for future events, or kind of--

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- The State Department had a, they had a working,

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yeah, to look at the effects after.

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I didn’t know if there, had been discussion of

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creating a similar--

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- I mean, honestly, it’s a fair question.

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I’m pretty sure that given the frequency of hurricanes

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and tropical storms in that part of the world,

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that a lot of research and a lot of examination’s already

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been done and evaluation.

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I think in the days and weeks to come we’ll have a better

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assessment of probably steps that can be taken

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to avoid damage.

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And again, it’s going to be country to country,

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because some of these countries don’t have the kind of

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preparations you might see in some of the other countries

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with regard to materials available to protect them

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and et cetera.

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- It’s probably too early for this as well, but Haiti,

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as a result of the hurricane, has abandoned its attempts

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to hold a presidential election next week.

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- [Mark] Suspended is what I heard, yeah.

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- Suspended, yes.

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And they have been suspending their presidential elections

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or canceling them fairly frequently over the past three

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or four years.

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You’ve regretted, in the past,

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suspensions of their elections.

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This obviously is a natural cause.

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- I think we’ll give them the benefit of the doubt here

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that they’re recovering from a natural disaster.

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Sorry?

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- [Matt] That was in the clause.

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- That was a, (laughing) Matt, you had one more?

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- Yeah, I did.

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And I don’t know if you’ve seen this warning that Iran

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has given to the Saudis about its ships approaching Iranian

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waters or territory.

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It’s quite similar to, or I believe it’s similar to ones

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that they have told the Fifth Fleet or you guys,

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as well, and I’m just wondering if you see this as any kind

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of an escalation.

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They say that they will intercept, board, whatever,

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the Saudis in particular.

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- So I haven’t seen the actual statement.

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We’ll take a look at it.

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But certainly, if it is as you appear,

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as you have stated it to be, I don’t know if we’d view it as

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an escalation, but it’s certainly unhelpful,

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and we support freedom of navigation in that part

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of the world as we do everywhere.

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- Just one question on Turkey, Mark.

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I know this question was asked two days ago, but since then,

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there are several more media outlets shut down.

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There are about 121 journalists in Turkey right now.

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There are very few critical media outlets left in country.

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I am wondering, as ally of Turkey, what’s your assessment of

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the two and a half months since the coup about the Turkish

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administration’s policies regarding freedom issues?

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- Well, I think our concerns remain the same,

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which is we obviously saw the Turkish Government

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react strongly to what was a coup attempt and conduct,

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carry out an investigation into the causes

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and who was behind that coup attempt.

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But we’ve been very clear from the early hours afterwards

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that that should not directly affect Turkey’s democratic

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institutions, freedom of the press, freedom of expression,

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and kind of the core tenets of Turkey’s constitution.

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So that’s a message that we continue to convey

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to the Turkish Government.

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Thanks.

