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- Good morning, everyone.

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Joining us today from Baghdad is Colonel Christopher Garver,

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who is the spokesman and public affairs officer

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for Combined Joint Task Force Operation Inherent Resolve.

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Sir, would you like to start with an opening statement?

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- I do, thanks, Adrian.

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And good morning to Pentagon press corps.

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Good to see everybody today.

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As per usual, I have an opening statement,

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and then we'll take your questions.

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I want to start today in Iraq, and then I'll move to Syria,

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and then come back to Iraq at the end.

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First, I'd like to start with the environment here.

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The last three days here in Iraq

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have seen temperatures reaching 120 degrees Fahrenheit.

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The government of Iraq has declared

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the last two days as heat days

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and minimized the number of officials here at work.

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But despite the brutal heat and the increased dust

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in the air, the Iraqi security forces

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have continued offensive operations

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in both the Euphrates and Tigris River Valleys.

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And while the ISF continues operations against Daesh,

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the coalition continues support with strikes,

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with training and equipping, with advice and assistance.

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In the last seven days, the coalition

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has conducted 73 strikes inside Iraq

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in support of the Iraqi security force operations.

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In the Tigris River Valley in Northern Iraq,

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shaping operations in preparation

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for the eventual liberation of Mosul continue.

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Iraqi security forces continue clearing operations

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in the vicinity of Qayyarah, which is star one on the map.

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The 71st Brigade recently isolated the town

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of Aswaja Gharbi on the east side of the Tigris

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and has commenced clearing the town.

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Daesh still control, on the Western side

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of the Tigris River, the two largest being Qayyarah itself

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and Sharqat, which is just to the south of Qayyarah.

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The ISF continues offensive operations in

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and around the area.

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To date, we have conducted more than 450 strikes

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in support of the operations along the Tigris.

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Moving South to the Euphrates River valley, at star two,

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the Seventh Iraqi Army Division completed clearance

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of the Dulab peninsula.

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The Dulab peninsula is the area on the South side

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of the Euphrates River, approximately 15 miles north of Hit

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and approximately 10 miles east of Al Asad airbase.

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Pockets of Daesh fighters controlled the peninsula

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until the Seventh IAD and the counterterrorism service

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cleared the peninsula and gained control

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of all the terrain South of the river.

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The area North of the river is still controlled by Daesh.

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The ISF is now consolidated and holding defensive positions

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in Dulab and the surrounding villages.

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Moving now to Syria, at star three, on the Mara line,

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the vetted Syrian opposition

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continues counter-Daesh operations,

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while retaining their line of resistance.

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VSO forces recently captured the town of Dutyan

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with the support of coalition airstrikes.

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During that operation over the past 72 hours,

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the coalition provided five strikes in support of the VSO.

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At star four in Manbij, the Syrian Arab Coalition

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and other members of the Syrian Democratic Forces continue

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to push the fight forward slowly and deliberately.

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The Syrian Arab Coalition captured a Daesh headquarters

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on July 17th in Western Manbij.

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The Daesh headquarters was located in a hospital

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on the West side of the city and was being used

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as a command center and a logistics hub.

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The SAC has also seized just under half

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the city so far during the operation.

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Daesh continues to fight hard within the center of Manbij

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with machine guns, well-placed snipers,

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and improvised explosive devices.

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We have seen Daesh collapsing back

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into the center of the city.

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Daesh is also mounted local counterattacks

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against SAC forces and used civilians as human shields

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and as bait by sending them into range of SAC weapons,

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trying to draw the fire of the SDF towards the civilians.

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In spite of these tactics,

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the SAC is maintaining their deliberate forward momentum

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with support from coalition strikes.

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Since the beginning of the offensive on May 21st,

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the coalition has conducted more than 500 strikes

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in support of this operation.

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We've mentioned recently the significant amount

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of intelligence about Daesh that has come out

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of the Mara operation so far,

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or the Manbij operations so far.

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More than 10,000 items, including more than four terabytes

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of digital information, have been seized

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and are being examined to exploit the information.

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We are learning more about Daesh at all levels from this.

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On a broad scale, we see Daesh has plans

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to insert their personnel into every facet

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of people's lives, as one would expect

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a totalitarian state to do.

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We have learned about how they organize

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their governance structures to ensure

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they can completely control all aspects of daily life,

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from religious practice, to education to tax collection

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and management of central services.

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We also see indoctrination of the young

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by rewriting text books with the language of hate

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for those not following

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the prescribed Daesh way of life written into it.

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Finally, we have a better understanding

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of how Daesh facilitates foreign fighter movements into

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and out of Syria and Iraq, which gives us valuable insight

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into stopping the flow of foreign fighters into the region.

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The exploitation of all that information continues.

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Additionally, you are all aware of the amount of attention

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that has been given to the allegations

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of civilian casualties caused by

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a coalition strike near Manbij.

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The incident is being looked into to determine

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what we can about that strike.

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During that portion of the fight,

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our SAC partner force observed a large group

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of Daesh fighters in a convoy who appeared to be readying

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for a counterattack against SAC troops in the area,

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and a strike was called in on Daesh.

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The strike was against both buildings and vehicles.

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Afterwards, we received reports from several sources,

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both internal and external,

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that there may have been civilians in the area

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who are mixed in and among the Daesh fighters.

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As per our procedure, we are reviewing

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all available evidence to determine

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if the information we have is credible enough

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to warrant a formal investigation.

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As we have discussed many times,

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we apply an extraordinary amount of rigor

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into our strike clearance procedures

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to do everything possible to avoid civilian casualties

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or unnecessary collateral damage

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and to comply with the principles of the law

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of armed conflict.

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We will update you as more information becomes available.

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I'd like to move back to Iraq to discuss

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our building partner capacity line of effort,

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as we call it, the training and equipping we do

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to make our partner forces better.

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To date, we have trained

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more than 23,750 Iraqi Security Force troops,

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which includes Iraqi Army,

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counterterrorism service and police.

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On Wednesday, we completed the first class

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of the border guard police training program.

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The first battalion of six planned, comprised by,

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of approximately 300 border guard police officers

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completed the inaugural four-week course

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that is focused on tactical defensive training

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at the individual and collective task level,

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all the way up to the platoon level.

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Additional iterative training courses are planned

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to provide forensic police training to these officers.

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The training was conducted at Al Asad Airbase,

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which is star five on the map,

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and is primarily conducted by Danish trainers.

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The government of Iraq will deploy these forces

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along their borders in order to protect

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the country once Daesh has been defeated within it.

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The border guard police training complements

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our national and local police training efforts,

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led by the Italian Carabinieri

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and supported by several other nations.

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Finally, you've heard us say repeatedly

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that we want to keep the pressure on Daesh

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by attacking them across the breadth and depth

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of their territory and formations in both Iraq and Syria,

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and that is important to break this idea

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of the so-called caliphate as we defeat them militarily.

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We also strike against the functional elements of Daesh,

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their ability to generate revenues through illicit oil

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and gas activities, their ability to bring foreign fighters

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into Syria and Iraq, their ability to finance

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their activities, their ability to plan operations

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and their ability to communicate,

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including the propaganda they send out to the world

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and use to influence and control their own people.

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We have seen Daesh use media kiosks throughout

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the so-called caliphate as platforms

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to push out their propaganda.

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On July 19, we targeted and destroyed

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a number of these media kiosks inside Mosul,

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star six on the map.

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These kiosks were used by Daesh to distribute propaganda

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to the local population.

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The last time we did strikes like this were back in April

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of this year, and it demonstrates our dedication

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to defeating Daesh, not just physically,

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but defeating the message and the idea as well.

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And with that, I'll be glad to take your questions.

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- And we'll start with Lita Baldor, Associated Press.

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- Hi, Chris, it's Lita.

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Can you give us a little bit of more detailed update

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of Qayyarah, how many US forces are there now?

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And have additional teams gone in to evaluate the runways

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and the condition of the, of the base?

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And can you give us a better sense

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of what shape it's in now?

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Have any improvements or any repairs begun?

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- Well, that's a great question, Lita, thanks.

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The air field, the air strip itself is damaged

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and many of the buildings have been damaged in

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and around the site.

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Now, we've done an initial assessment and I think we've,

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we've talked about that recently and we've got

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a more detailed assessment is going on right now.

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There are, there's at least one Iraqi battalion sitting

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on that, that base right now.

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And there's multiple Iraqi brigades in and around the area,

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both the East and the West side of the, of the Tigris River.

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But what's important to realize about that base

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is the base itself is more important to us right now

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than the air strip is.

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We will repair the air strip and we will get that, that,

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that back working, and the 560 additional troops

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that the Secretary of Defense talked about

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a couple weeks ago will be a part of that effort

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to repair that, that air strip.

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But more importantly is the build-out of that base

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as a logistical hub to support the Iraqi security forces,

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just as we used Makhmur for when we were

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on the East side of the Tigris.

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So we will prepare that for Iraqi forces

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to live and train and rehearse and plan.

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We will, we'll prepare that as a logistics hub

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to bring in supplies and push 'em back out.

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We don't need the air strip to be able to do that.

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We can do all that with, with what we have available now.

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But eventually, they will complete that air strip,

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repair that air strip, and that will be used as well.

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But the base itself is more important right now

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than the air strip itself.

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That's why it's the first priority

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and the air strip is the second priority.

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- That there's an assessment going on right now,

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that's a US, another US team that's in there,

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and when I asked General Votel the other day

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if any US troops have started to flow in,

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he said the, the large groups of troops haven't gone in yet,

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suggesting there are some there, can you say how many?

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- There are no US forces there today.

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I don't want to talk specifically about when they will,

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but there is another assessment team that is part of all

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of that, of kind of building out the base.

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And when we get folks in place and doing their mission,

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we'll be in a better position to kind of talk

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about what's going to be there

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from a coalition perspective,

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not just the Iraqi Security Forces perspective.

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- Dave Martin, CBS.

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- Could you talk a little bit more about the airstrike

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and the claims of civilian casualties up around Manbij?

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You said that you now have I think you said internal

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and external sources that some civilians

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may have been mixed in.

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One, do you have any estimates of the numbers

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of civilians who may have been mixed in?

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And two, was that possibility known before the strike,

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and a decision made that, you know,

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a military objective was worth the risk

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of civilian casualties?

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- In terms of the size, David, I've seen different estimates

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in the initial reports that came in.

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I think the largest we've seen in a while,

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in the open press, it was kind of a wild speculation

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towards 73, I think was the number that I saw in one report,

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all the way down to perhaps, 10 or 15

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in different reporting as well.

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So that's part of what the investigation is going to be

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because the estimate was pretty wide.

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The range was pretty wide in terms of

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who we think might have been a civilian in that strike.

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And secondly, that's the part about whether or not

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somebody made a decision to hit that target.

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I don't know, that's part of the investigation.

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They're going to figure that out.

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And so, I can't talk about that yet,

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that'll be part of the investigation process.

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- Everybody has seen the estimate of civilian dead

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from the external sources.

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What do your internal sources estimate

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the number of civilian dead?

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- I'll just say that it was much less than

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the high end like we saw.

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Like I said, 73 was the high end of what I saw

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in the open source.

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It was much less down, down lower toward

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the left end of the scale, the lower end of the scale.

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Approximately, you know, in the, in the,

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what they were concerned about was somewhere

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between 10 and 20 but I can't be specific

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and that's part of what the investigation is.

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- Can I just clarify with you, are you now saying

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that the US military, separate from open source information,

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separate from press statements made by outside groups,

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that the US military, itself,

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does have internal information suggesting to you,

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in fact, there were civilian casualties?

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You seem to be saying that.

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- What I specifically said Barbara,

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was there was internal and external reporting.

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The internal reporting may encompass some

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of the external reporting

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That we saw where people were suddenly concerned

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because of external reporting that we saw.

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The specifics of an internal report that says,

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yes, we think there were civilians on, in that strike,

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I haven't seen that.

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And that's again, part of the investigative process

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that we need let work through.

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But there were reports that come into the command

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both internally and externally, that said,

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we may have cause for concerns,

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there may have been civilians involved in the strike.

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And some of that was generated from, internally,

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we saw some of the external reporting that was going on.

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- In a minute, I'm even more confused.

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Do you have any US military information, intelligence,

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that suggests to you there may have been civilian strikes,

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or is your only source of reporting essentially

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still outside open source reporting?

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- I have nothing to give you today on whether or not

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there was any internal coalition military information

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that said there may or may not have been civilians

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in that, in that strike.

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I just don't have anything to give you on that right now.

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I don't know, and it's with the unit

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that's conducting the investigation.

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- Could I also just clarify, I'm very sorry,

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are we talking, there were multiple numbers,

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but there were also strikes in Manbij over two days,

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and some suggestion that there were civilian strikes in,

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on both, civilian casualties on both days.

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Are you simply talking about the first day of strikes

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against that convoy?

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What missions exactly are under investigation review?

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- That, that strike is the one I'm talking about right now,

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the one on the convoy.

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That's the strike that we're talking about.

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- Chris, good morning.

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There's a report out this morning that suggests

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the June 16th bombing of a garrison at at-Tanf

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in Southeastern Syria, that there has been US

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and British troops there within 24 hours potentially.

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Can you confirm that?

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And I guess in light of that, can you shed any light

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on where the coalition is and where the commanders are

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in terms of Russian intervention,

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Russian involvement in that area,

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and how the communication is at this point?

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It sounds a lot more potentially troublesome

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than we had heard previously.

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- All right Corey, I'm not going to discuss the specifics

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of either US or other coalition SOF operations.

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So I'm not going to confirm that one way or another.

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As for the negotiations with the Russians in regard

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to operations inside Syria, I can tell you

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that today we are doing exactly what we've been doing.

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We're not cooperating in any way other than communicating

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through the one channel for safety of flight

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through the memorandum of agreement that we have.

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The negotiations are being conducted at a higher level

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than the Combined Joint Task Force.

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You can ask the folks in the building there

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if there's been any change.

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But where we are today as we're conducting operations,

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it's the same way we have been.

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And there's no cooperation with Russian forces at this time.

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- Lucas Tomlinson, Fox News?

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- [Voiceover] Colonel, there's a report

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that an American vigilante fighting ISIS

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was killed in Syria, do you have anything on that?

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- I saw the headline, Lucas, just on Twitter,

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but I haven't gotten any other information on that.

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I saw some open source reporting,

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but don't have anything specific about that.

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- [Adrian] Carla Babb, VOA?

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- Hi, Colonel Garver, thanks for doing this.

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Back on Manbij, you were saying,

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and I think Secretary Carter had said on Wednesday

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that you were still seeing if it warrants,

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the civilian potential killing warrants an investigation.

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Where are you?

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Are you still in the review to see

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if it warrants an investigation?

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Or is the US military actually

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in the investigative stage right now?

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- So we're in the first phase, which is we determine

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what we call a credibility assessment.

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Does the information we have warrant a formal investigation?

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The unit is conducting that credibility assessment

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right now.

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At the end of that, the commander will either say,

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you know, as the unit completes that,

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the unit will say either we don't think it warrants

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a formal investigation, or we do,

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and then they'll launch a formal investigation.

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So they've got some time to complete that.

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It's less than a week and a half now to complete

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that internal, that review.

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And then they'll recommend to a higher commander that says,

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yeah, we think we need to do a formal investigation, or not.

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And I don't want to get in front of that investigation,

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in front of that review process,

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in front of the credibility assessment,

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to figure out one way or another or predict one way

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or another where it's going to go.

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- And just so I'm clear on the timeline,

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is it less than a week and a half from the reporting

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of the incident, or less than a week and a half

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from today that you're referring to?

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- It's less than a week and a half from today.

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The standard within CENTCOM and within Central Command

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is you have 14 days to complete the assessment

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from being told to do it.

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The unit was told to do it a few days ago,

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and they're in the middle of doing that now.

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- Corey Dickstein.

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- Yes, sir, can you, just following up on Carla's question,

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after these 14 days, if it, if they do recommend a,

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a formal investigation, can, can you talk at all

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as to how long that kind of investigation would take?

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And can you talk at all about what goes

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into that investigation, how that's,

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how that's done from, from your side?

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- Well, I could tell you that the time it takes

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is the time it takes.

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They're in our timelines and what,

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it's what we call an Army, an AR 15-6,

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which is a command investigation.

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You can look it up in the Army regulations

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about what that is.

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There are timelines that are built-in.

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I'm certainly not a lawyer, so I would, I would say,

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I think they have a short amount of time to get back

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to their commander who assigned them that report.

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In this case, General MacFarland is interested,

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General Votel clearly is interested in this,

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in this as well.

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But I don't want to talk to specifics,

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because I don't have it off the top of the my head,

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and I get, I said I think it's a couple of weeks

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to complete the investigation.

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You can apply for additional time if you need it

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as the investigating officer.

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Or you take the credibility assessment information,

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and then that becomes part of the evidence.

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And then you'll go forward to,

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the investigating officer would go forward

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to figure out what, what can we determine, you know,

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in this instance, the determination will be,

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do we think we killed civilians accidentally in this strike?

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And that is the end result of, of this.

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And then any recommendations towards what,

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was it a procedural error?

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Did somebody not do something right?

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Was it fog and friction of war?

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Was it something that Daesh had done as a tactic that,

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that we were not paying attention to, and therefore,

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we need to inform our units in the future

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to watch out for this tactic.

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The investigating officer's recommendations

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go to the commander, the commander can makes changes

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to our procedures along the way.

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And at the end of all of that, we would at some point,

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publish a release from either CJTF or Central Command

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that said that we acknowledge that we killed civilians,

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if that was the end of the result.

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- Paul Shinkman, US News.

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- Ah, yes, good morning Colonel Garver,

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good to see you again.

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There is a, a news report yesterday afternoon,

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I think it was from Reuters that the forces

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on the ground surrounding Manbij had given

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the Islamic State fighters 48 hours to leave.

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Can you talk about what, what that plan is,

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what happens after 48 hours?

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And have you seen any indication

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that there are Islamic State group fighters

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leaving that area?

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- Yeah, I saw that report from Reuters.

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I don't have anything from, our advisers

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with those units are from the chain of command

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on the ground, the SAC chain of command on the ground

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that, that confirms that.

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So, as of right now, I'm not confirming that.

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I don't, I haven't talked to anybody who, who saw what,

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saw, you know, any kind of ultimatum like that.

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I, I can't confirm that it even exists,

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and the, the attack is still going forward today.

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So, I don't know, you know, what somebody thought

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they were going to, to buy with that.

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But the, the SAC is fighting inside the city,

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and actually moved a little bit more towards

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the center of the city after they had seized

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that hospital, they're still moving forward.

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So, I can't confirm that report.

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- And can you talk about, we've heard about

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with previous towns in, of Iraq

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that have been liberated that there is some sort

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of formal process, some sort of formal plan

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that goes into it to allow for the fact

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that people will likely be fleeing from the town

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that could include fighters who were based there

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and there's need to be some sort of avenue

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to allow them to do that so the coalition forces

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can focus on the fighting.

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Is the same true in Syria, where there are sort

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of fewer coalition fighters on the ground

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and it's more about grouping local fighters together?

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Is there a plan in place to, to allow for the movements

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of people when, when campaigns like this begin?

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- So the short answer is yes.

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And now, I'll give you the long answer.

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The long answer is that there is a plan.

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They initially had a plan, the Syrian Democratic Forces,

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the SAC, Syrian Arab Coalition, as part of the SDF.

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All these forces had a plan to leave

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a corridor out towards the West

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so if anybody was escaping, they could go out that corridor.

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But what we had seen in Iraq and what seemed to work well

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was instead of leaving a corridor open

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which Daesh potentially could, could capitalize on,

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could exploit, is that as, as long as your troops

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are aware that people are going to be fleeing the area

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and as they come to the forward lines,

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if you identify what you think is a civilian and, and,

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not a member of Daesh, we pass those, those civilians back

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through the lines.

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The people in the back of the formation take them

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and move them to safety.

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And so based on recommendations from the coalition,

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that's what the Syrian Arab Coalition

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and the SDF have been doing, and we have had people

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coming out of the city and we think there are still

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a couple thousand more in there.

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I've seen some, some wide range, again,

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wide range of estimates of how many civilians

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we think are still inside Manbij.

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But we have had several thousand that have come out

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and have been moved through the lines

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and sent back to a more secure area.

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- Back to Lucas Tomlinson, Fox News.

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- Is this new tactic of ISIS putting civilians in vehicles,

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is, does that slow down the air war?

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- Well, as we saw, Lucas, on the strikes

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that we did on the convoys a couple weeks ago,

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if we're not sure what's inside those vehicles,

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we will not pull the trigger until we know.

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And so there was a portion of the convoy

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that was North of Fallujah that, as that started to form,

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we thought a portion of that convoy may have civilians,

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may have family members or may have women and children.

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So we did not initially strike that portion of the convoy.

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But as we watched it with ISR

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and with our intelligence platforms

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and we developed an intelligence picture,

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we got to a point where we think that they had left.

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We were able to kind of check to see yup,

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everybody's holding a weapon

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or everybody's manning a machine gun

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or looks like Daesh and we were able to then go in

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and strike those portions of convoys.

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So it doesn't hold up the air war any more than

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we already hold ourselves up in trying to ensure

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that we're, we're not hitting anything but Daesh

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when we shoot at it.

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Those are the same normal procedures that we go through.

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Now clearly, if we know they're operating that way

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inside a certain area, as we see inside Manbij,

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the fight inside Manbij has been very intense.

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And as, as it collapses in, it gets, it gets more intense,

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which is sort of different than what we saw

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in Ramadi and what we saw in Fallujah.

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And I talked kind of before about punching through the crust

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and into the gooey center.

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The gooey center's getting, there is no gooey center yet.

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The gooey center is still a tough crust

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as it collapses back in on itself.

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So we're, so we, yes, as you're about to strike a vehicle,

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you want to make sure you know what's inside it,

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and if you're not sure, you're not going to pull

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the trigger until you're absolutely sure.

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- Are you concerned the command,

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following the successful strike

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outside Fallujah against those hundreds

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of vehicles that ISIS has adopted this new tactic

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of putting civilians in vehicles when travelling.

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- We actually saw their use of civilians in Manbij

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this way prior to that strike, outside of Fallujah.

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So the Daesh leaders in Manbij were using the civilians,

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we talked about human shields, but using them as bait

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trying to draw us into shooting civilians as well,

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trying to draw the SDF into shooting civilians as well.

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But that was happening before the convoy strike.

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So that was clearly, whoever was in charge of Manbij,

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that was a decision that they made to use those civilians

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in that way before they saw the results

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of what happened in Fallujah.

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- Over to Incirlik Air Base, how many soldiers were lost

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in the week when the coup was over

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and the power was turned off externally?

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- I would tell you, Lucas, I want to let the specifics

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of that go to the CAOC,

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Contact Lieutenant Colonel Chris Karns,

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or to the base itself is run out of EUCOM,

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Captain Danny Hernandez at the EUCOM public affairs.

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What I can tell you is that the impact on the ground

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was exceedingly minimal because we were able to shift,

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there's enough flexibility built into the air plan,

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and airplanes and can fly from one point to another

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if you need 'em to.

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They can fly as long as they need to

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because we just give them more gas in the air.

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So that just becomes more of a logistical problem

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to get them to point a to point b.

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Before we were flying out of Incirlik,

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we were flying from other parts of the region

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and we had to give them more gas to get them up

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in the Northern edge of Syria and the Northern edge of Iraq.

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So we can do that again.

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And they started doing that again.

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Then we had kind of gone back and forth with whether the,

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the, the, we were gonna be allowed to fly

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when all of military flight was stopped inside Turkey.

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We were able to shift responsibilities

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and air plans around to make sure

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that it was absolutely a minimal impact

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to the fight on the ground.

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And now, we are flying again,

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and they're allowing it, and there's power again.

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So we expect the operations to get back

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to normal at Incirlik.

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And I'd like to just say, we want to thank everybody

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who was involved in getting this resolved,

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getting the power turned back on.

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The troops there have been, they have been eating,

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they've had showers, they've had WiFi,

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but things are starting to get uncomfortable

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so it came back on just at the right time.

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So everybody who was involved in that from the Turks,

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the other coalition partners, up to the folks

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in the building where you are right now,

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and Department of State, everybody who was involved in that,

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you know, we appreciate that, that's turned back on.

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As the end user of the strikes in Northern Iraq

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and Northern Syria, but the actually airplane stuff,

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I would ask you to talk to Chris Karns

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or to one of the other folks over there.

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- And finally, this purge of Turkish officers

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from the military inside Turkey,

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did the US military lose some allies

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in the fight against ISIS as a result?

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- Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to talk to that, Lucas.

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I'm not going to talk about what's going on

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inside Turkey right now.

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Clearly, they've got some internal issues

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that they're dealing with right now.

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I can't imagine if it happened in our, in our own military.

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I don't know how I would react personally either.

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But I can't talk to what's going on up there

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in Turkey about that right now.

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We are focused on fighting Daesh here.

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We're gonna stay focused on fighting Daesh here.

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And we may have been able to keep doing that

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in spite of our Turkish allies' issues,

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they had over the weekend.

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- Over to Dan Lamothe.

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- Chris, Dan with the Washington Post.

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One follow-up and one question,

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on the American who was fighting with the YPG,

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I spoke with his mother yesterday, and they said,

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they had no idea how they were going

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to get his remains home.

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Is that something that the US military in light

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of the relationship with the Kurds

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could potentially assist with?

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- Dan, that's a great question.

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I will push that back into our chain of command

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to kind of see if, if there is a way

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that we could potentially assist in that.

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Eventually, if remains were returned to us,

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we certainly have the ability to do things like that.

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I can't sign us up for anything yet

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until we know some details, but,

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and I'm way outside of my lane here as it is.

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Certainly, we have the, the capacity to do that,

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the capability to do that.

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But I'll, I'll address that to the chain of command,

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and see if that's something that we can assist with.

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- Did the, the secretary mentioned earlier this week

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that the JIDA director had been in country this week

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in Baghdad, probably with some of his staff,

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discussing the bombings in Baghdad,

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how to present, prevent that sort of thing in the future.

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Do you have an initial readout on what happened?

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There any equipment or anything

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that was discussed during the agreements that were reached?

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- Lieutenant General Shields is here in Baghdad, in fact.

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And I don't want to talk about the specifics

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of his travel plans.

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But he has been meeting with leaders,

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both coalition and Iraqi leaders.

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He's gonna need to get back to, to back to JIDA,

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and give a readout to his chain of command.

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And then they're going to have to look at

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what types of solutions they can offer the Iraqis.

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And remember, in the end, the Iraqis have to agree

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to whatever support we offer.

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My boss, General MacFarland is, is, has said on, you know,

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in the past, you can't inflict support on somebody.

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And so, even if we come up with potential solutions

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to help with the, the bomber network issue here in Baghdad,

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the Iraqis have to agree with it.

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So, there's going to be some negotiations along the way.

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But I know General Shields' team.

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I talked to him yesterday, as a matter of fact.

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They're, they're here.

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They're doing what the Secretary of Defense told them to do.

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And then he's gonna get back,

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he's gonna out-brief his chain of command there.

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And then his team has got to do some,

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some thinking about what they can do to influence that

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and then help out the Iraqi Security Force,

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because ultimately, JIDA's mission is to stop people

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from being blown up, be it coalition forces

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or Iraqi civilians.

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So, if they're able to help with that,

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I know they'll be glad to do that.

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But there's still some negotiations

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that will have to take place before we get JIDA help in here

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to help the Iraqis.

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- All right, go to Carla Babb, Voice of America.

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- Hi, just a quick follow-up on Manbij,

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how much does the SAC forces control in the city?

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Is it more than half, two-thirds?

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- It's, it's just about half.

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It's, again, tough to, tough to kind of parcel

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it out specifically.

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But it's different than the fight,

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the fight in Manbij is different than what we've seen

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in Fallujah, what we've seen in Ramadi,

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what we've seen in some of the small towns in Qayyarah,

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in that area.

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This is the SAC, or excuse me.

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This is Daesh falling back in on itself,

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and reinforcing its positions and making it tougher

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to fight in towards the city, to, to fight into towards

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the, the center of the city.

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Now, we talked before, when this started,

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about the importance of Manbij to Daesh,

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that open corridor from Raqqa to the outside world,

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out through Turkey, out into Europe,

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out into the rest of the world,

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both in and out through Manbij.

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And they are fighting like it is

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of that strategic importance to them.

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So, they also control, like I said,

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we think at least a couple of thousand civilians

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inside the city as well, which was why the fight

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is being very slow and very deliberate,

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and moving forward very specifically and very deliberately.

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It is not a fast rush into the city.

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They're being very careful about how they fight this.

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And when you, when you realize Daesh

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is sending civilians out towards the lines trying

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to draw fire, so that they can use that either

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as a propaganda tool, or in some way get a benefit

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from the SAC accidentally killing civilians,

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that, that keeps that very deliberate.

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That keeps it very, very specific

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and very, very deliberate as you're working

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through the city.

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So there, about half is what I think the reports

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from the command on the ground has said.

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It's generally, I think the Western half,

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but the circle is tightening around the entire city itself.

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But as Daesh falls back in, this is a fight

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like we haven't seen before.

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One could be a tough fight and take a while longer

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to clear everything out.

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- Jim from NBC.

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- Push back to Baghdad, what specifically

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could the U.S. military offer the Iraqis

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in terms of combating the bombings

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and would it require a visible US military presence

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there in Baghdad?

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- Well, Jim, I'm not the spokesperson for JIDA

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and I don't want to talk about what,

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what they can bring to the table.

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They bring technological solutions,

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they bring intelligence, they bring information,

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they bring tactics, techniques and procedures.

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All of those would be something that General Shields

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looks at when he gets back to his headquarters

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and he figures out what they can offer.

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I don't want to get out in front of that.

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He's still, as I said, he's still right

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in the middle of his trip.

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He's still kind of formulating his ideas

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and he's going to have some time to do that,

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go back and talk to his chain of command.

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And as I said, it's going to have

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to be a negotiation back to the Iraqis

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for them to approve whatever it is that we do

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to support them.

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So it's a wide range options.

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I would direct you toward JIDA about what some of those are.

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Clearly, you know we don't talk too often

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about what we're doing in the counter-IED fight

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because we're very careful about informing our enemy

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about counter-IED operations,

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counter-explosive operations.

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But there's a wide range of possibilities available

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to the coalition, specifically to JIDA

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to offer back to the Iraqis.

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- Any more questions?

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Thank you very much.

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Colonel Garver, sir, would you like

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to make a closing statement?

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- Well, I appreciate everybody's attention today.

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Like I said, the, the Iraqi Security Forces,

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in spite of the heat, in spite of everybody else

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getting the heat day or two heat days here in Iraq,

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they are out still fighting in the front lines.

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They are out still clearing.

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They are out still conducting simultaneous major operations

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in both the Euphrates and the Tigris River Valley.

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We talked about progress and we talked

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about the Iraqi Security Forces developing

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as a force, developing in its ability to beat Daesh.

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And they're demonstrating that right now.

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And of course, we're continuing to provide the things

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that we do to make them better,

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to help them with that fight.

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But in spite of the challenges here,

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they're driving on and they're continuing that fight.

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Thank you.

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- Sir, thank you, everyone.

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Have a great weekend.

