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european banks or haven't made up
my name is mike to browse the

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I am the market director for a military
grade fiberoptic amphenol

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today to talk about regularized
by brought the connectors for

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ground tactical. Applications

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area so the first question is why
fiber optics a fiber optics

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offer a variety of benefits over
copper and or of cable's first

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first and foremost certainly lower
system weight you'll find

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that a four fiber strand of fiber
optic cable weighs less than

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a quarter of a similar spread a
similar screen role of cat five

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cable also higher bandwidth when
using stick out if using single

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mode fiber optic cable through a
fiber optic cable is essentially

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ban with unlimited as fast as you
can much later electronics

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that's how much data you can push
down your fiberoptic stream

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you can go longer distances with fiber
optics with a italy working

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with smith with the special forces
community too remote a small

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aperture at satellite antennas so
that the operators can be farther

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away from their from the from the
emitter so that it increases

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the safety of the operator in the
field most importantly fiberoptic

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cynthia my immune they're both impervious
electromagnetic interference

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and they also don't emit electromagnetic
interference which allows

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linkages between satellite antennas
communication shelters network

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vehicles and even individual soldiers
without having a n e m

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I a mating pathway between the system
elements thus increasing

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the safety and survivability of
your systems and finally fiber

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optics are inherently secure you
can tap fibre optics once you

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have a fiber a break in a fiber
cable that cable ceases to be

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useful and there is no way to go
into that table and steal the

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information you have an inherent security
level the copper doesn't

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offer so intense connectivity there
are three global standards

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when it comes to fiber optic connectors
which evoke a two is

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the us army standard and has been
for the better part of 15 years

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it is the backbone of the wing
t system and it is widely used

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at today not only in the us army for
the canadian army the israeli

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army and a number of armies in asia
as well although at a smaller

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scale typically of four fiber connector
type you're typically

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looking at a a very raw to the
side of the vehicle and use it

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like I said as a climbing rope the
second connector of the second

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global standard is what employer
calls the tac beam there are

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other names in the market for does
well the u s marine corps

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has recently standardised on this
connector bus connector uses

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what's called expanded beam technology
out what that means is

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when you make the two connector halves
together the fiber doesn't

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actually touch there's alleges
that actually expands the beam

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transfers this knocks on physical
contact connectors like that

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the folk to is that they are sometimes
difficult to clean in

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the field so the tac team up

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the third standard is called the
sea tossing this is a moribund

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michie standard it's a it's the
standard in the french army and

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the belgian army and there's a
fair amount of poland as well

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again expanded beam style connector
but this connector is completely

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stainless steel and features a window
on the end of it so that

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there's no that the end of the connector
bua the community uses

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fiber optics both on the u eight
on the vehicle itself but also

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on the ground control systems again
as linkage between an antenna

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and a shelter uk satellite communications
is becoming a very

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aggressively growing area for fiber
optics as the satellite at

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the systems manufacturers have
learned how to transmit are of

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signals over fiber optics so now again
you can go a longer distance

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with a stronger optical signal and
not have uh any kind of you're

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my leakage so you're you have heavily
supported the tactical

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operating centers in the command
operating centers for the u

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s army of the listed missile defense
we talked about the patriot

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and bad systems that actually the
aegis of both aegis ashore

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and the naval variant of aegis both
utilize fiber optic heavily

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on and then finally just deplorable
command shelters we got a

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lot of work with a shelters at the
brigade and been driven rain

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ah and then blown sand and dust
and you want that connector to

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be easily cleaned the one the one
issue I guess with fiber optic

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cables you do need to keep them clean
in order for them to function

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properly so you want that cleaning
to be easy you want them to

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be easily repaired and you want
a low mean I mean time between

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failures so the key to a whole fiber
that key to any fiber optic

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systems quality cable assemblies
and most most military groups

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and even the primes do not like
building their own fibre optic

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cable I have a very high degree
of skill in terms of being of

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the polish the federals to be able
to terminate the cable and

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capture the kevlar in the cable in
the strain relief effectively

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um most people have had a bad experience
with fiber optics in

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the field are probably the victims of
bad fiber optic cable assemblies

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and there are openings such as minor
expert in the field of building

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fiber optic cables and were starting
to see international standards

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emerged to describe about what a
rugged ice fiber optic connector

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should be I in in the mil standard
community we have borrowed

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up we've borrowed standards from
the telecom community until

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porteous endurance and an itc and
I see him all issued standards

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to enhance and better define what
makes a quality fiber optic

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cable it is a myth that fiberoptic
cables cannot be repaired

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in the field fiberoptic cables
or repaired in the field every

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day worldwide it is simply a function
of training it is a matter

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of training your soldiers to be
able to have the skills and the

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tools necessary to repair a five
drop the cable from splicing

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at a cable back together to actually
installing a new connector

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in the field as I said these are
done every day uk the process

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can be done quickly in efficiently
again it really just comes

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down to training and tooling and understanding
what the environments

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that back prepare a needs to happen

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so leave it with the few final
thoughts on fiber optics have

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been used in military environments
for over 20 years it is a

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very very mature technology people
have been up since the original

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patriot missile systems that was
really the first army field

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system that utilize fiber optics
widely in the market up and

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since that time connectors have a
bald cable assembly techniques

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have a bald and it has become a very
well entrenched and valuable

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a valuable technology in the army
military equipment fields on

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the technology is we are global
standards are available and to

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define what a good cable assembly
is it's not just a matter of

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taking adventures word for it there
are independent empirical

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standards that's up are available
to define what a quality fiber

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optic cable assembly fiber offers
the best pipe band with low

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detection solution for today's battlefield
communicate she challenges

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it is a technology that is saved
many a soldier's life it is

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will continue to save soldiers lives
and we look forward to continuing

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to support all of your
needs in the future

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and that is the end of my talk
about we are about five 16 if

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you had any question I well good afternoon
we're aware this afternoon's

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panel the panel as land forces
and maritime domain awareness

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of and will have a pretty good discussion
I think you have plenty

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of time for questions joe up get
ready and if this was arranged

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the targets will be a 25 metre
stationary daytime if you can

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hit the target you know you're pretty
bad as world will be ready

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for your questions about this sequence
today will go right down

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from admiral montgomery down the
table up for rear admiral mark

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montgomery director of op

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at the smith richardson foundation
is sometimes my boss a show

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highlight of the enduring nature
of war and set the such that'll

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set the stage for a successful conclusions
and sherlock the size

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the maritime domain issues prominent
in the pacific other and

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highlight that they are driven by
the human aspects of war which

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starred in and on the land annexed
the doctor conrad crane as

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scheduled but is not here unfortunately
he's the chief of historical

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services a for the army heritage
and education center luckily

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he forwarded his comments show I
will read them I I won't answer

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any questions we have questions
for conrad you have to option

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as you could either email him in
carlisle or rational but master

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either one will be fine

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a doctor crane I will provide the
a historical perspective and

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he's got some pretty good comments
for cross domain operations

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and the discussions of trends in
a maritime operations annexed

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their major general john wharton
commanding general u s army

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research development in engineering
command a hill disgusts me

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grinded here the engineering of
technology command and he'll

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highlight trends and crossed the
main challenges and issues that

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are bigger than just the pacific and
hill also discuss a deterrence

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as a function of fires and
maneuver in. Expeditionary

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doc each speaker will not each panel
member talked about 10 minutes

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and the game will get right down
to the questions and answers

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will mark overview

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excellent sir the effects are doing
at the time thank you watch

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also than joe brown general thurman
and fellow flag officers

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it it's great to be here with all
you is my second year to speak

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or hear a probably safer navy officer
to one year speaking alam

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paca second you're probably my
signal release the end for me

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at this point out i'm glad i'm
here that I think lam pak is a

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reflection of how joint the us
up military remains if I know

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the guy in here with what pants on
om wie du operator environment

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we must think in and fight jointly
and we think those operations

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now up across all the domains land
sea air space and cyber law

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our operations it had to be fought
in a joint environment in

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the pacific this is particularly
hard because we fight in the

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shadow of a very well equipped fourth
and fifth generation adversary

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one who presents challenges that
we haven't faced in the pacific

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and 70 years since the euro the
victory in the two battles of

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the philippines in the idea of fill
pcm later golf for the navy

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folks and they are the victory in
the philippines for the army

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it's a challenging anti axis environment
on that and I think

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we pay calmly don't have the luxury
of deciding which service

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provides an effect as we find ourselves
service ig gnostic and

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the army in rank organ can provide
that effect from the land

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better than their navy or air force
provided from the seer air

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that's the way we have to go our secure
jars are security environments

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can it insisted that all the components
maritime air ground soften

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now the new cyber components we have
in our thinking about fighting

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it in these domains one other challenges
for us about here is

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that while most wars the cli recent
wars and conflicts the land

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domain has been the center gravity
in the pacific that's not

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the case today our most challenging
threats in the air cyber

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maritime domains this is really where
a decisive effort is gonna

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lie in arca points examining that
their capabilities in effect

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that they bring to this
air maritime fight

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our efforts and in this endeavour
critical because we also think

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the pacific theatre represents the
most robust area for american

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trade investment and engagement going
forward the indo asia pacific

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encompasses the majority of the
world's tdp now and really it's

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the engine that cannot drive future
growth and world xi to be

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in trade in the indian and pacific
ocean ins are the economic

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lifeblood that link southeast asia
northeast asia oceania south

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asian united states together strengthening
that economic ligature

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through diplomatic and security
partnerships is what america's

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strategic rebalancing to asia pacific
is about as about our future

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child sets a few numbers to support
this in the south china sea

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alone there's about five trillion
dollars in annual trade of

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that trade relies on unimpeded
access to sea lanes 20 second

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if I presented this is sea based
trade that goes directly to

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the united states over a trillion
dollars to the vital maritime

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superhighway but thanks in large
part to u s efforts over the

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past 70 years to guarantee access
to trade and shipping and open

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access to shared domains including
air maritime and space this

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region is now home to this region
the pacific is now home to

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the world's three largest economies
as seven of the eight fastest

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growing economies freedom a navigation
is part and parcel a lot

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to all of the succeeding focusing on
ground forces on very specifically

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on the army the region is also home
to seven of the world's 10

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largest armies are and in fact
when we go around of the 35 or

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36 countries here 30 of them about
30 of the military's m r of

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effectively do exhibit a countries
having a larger army eight

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and access to shared maritime spaces
what what would I say the

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u s army's rock taking the shared
domains I think understand

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that you have to understand what
our operational design is an

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unnatural creation resigned for
fighting in the pacific and and

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while there are some uniquely earn
merit air and maritime aspects

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like I mentioned there are aspects
or operational zone I knew

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that if he joined elements in them
a lot of and ones where I

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think the the ground when a granite
can play a critical role

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in the first as establishing air
superiority at the time a place

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of our choosing the second as a
playing surface strike which

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I take his ship and ground ship
and land strike whenever air

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superiority conditions allow and I
think ground forces can contribute

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to this operation design across
four critical areas the first

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one is the development of maritime
fires are I think on the army

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referred to as cross domain fires
but in the navy will come into

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a maritime fires out from the land
to the sea the second is creating

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an integrated air missile defense
capability of the fens are

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land based air assets allows for
temporary air superiority when

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required the third is could coast
artillery missions at night

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not topical structurally like the
old 16 or 19 inch guns it we

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haven't ford island they were only
ported one direction which

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was in length which is unfortunate
19 41 and the and the didn't

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have any any of room for maneuver
but really what i'm talking

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about is this significant says stumps
with range to impact operations

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in a constricted water space like
the south china sea paladin

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m l r s high marsh to name just
three the rangers were seeing

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from these systems could already
reached key land feature what

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already reach key land features in
the south china sea and longer

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ranges are expected in
the immediate future

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additionally the key to building
up the yard this is a successful

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maritime fires that gaps or groundbreaking
radars into the fire

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control processors of those weapon
systems it will speak rover

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have a guidance system and warhead
fuze or optimize for naval

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combat likely you have about five
flourishing naval munitions

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companies who are very interested
in selling this to the army

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right now so in maritime fires a
lot of opportunity there I think

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to impact us whether you're sitting
in the philippines or you're

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sitting in the real goose or eagle
you're sitting in another

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south. China

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doc as I said 70 years of integrated
air missile defense expert

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expertise was in the army I might
mention you been doin' I empty

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longer than the air force has been
on air force but that yet

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that really this is a traditional
up mission and I think when

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we look at it there's two opportunities
for the army here the

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first is. The

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doc begin improvements in our ability
to detect and defeat cruise

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and ballistic missiles the second
job is to contribute to the

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attainment of air superiority in
the maritime domain in other

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words reaching out into the maritime
domain this is can require

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a high level of integration both
with air and naval war fighters

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but also beyond just like sixteenth
or other systems are out

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there that would have to be working
through the get that targeting

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polling data in their both. E

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doc on defense battle command sister
I am the batman system abc

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asked which is tracking gauging
a defeating ballistic missile

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targets. Were

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doc the other thing that we see
arches are lambastes sensors

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which particularly I like ones that
are persistent medium altitude

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air search radars I don't believe
I can say the word j lands

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right here baba yaga yaga can a
persistent medium altitude air

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search radar the provides a fine
fine quality track data will

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significantly improve the aaron
merrick the security of our air

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and maritime forces so its maritime
fires in herbarium as an

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offence the third area of italia as
a matter of the time signature

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of adia leo maritime demanded the
third areas maritime domain

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awareness this is integrated within
the maritime fires mission

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out for me many army systems could
support the navy and air force

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in this and we don't routinely
take advantage of them whether

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it's unmanned aircraft radars links
or again that j lans or persistent

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medium altitude radar system this
will be critical and out I

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wanna think army provides in this is
where their well honed experience

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specially user pack year in the
pacific with our pacific allies

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and partners is at integration with
allies and partners and even

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include the marine corps now with
that marine that maritime domain

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awareness is our third area in the
final one siren space on it's

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not much to be specified in open
form like this this is a growth

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industry for all the functional components
the service to better

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bring those to the battlefield so
I close with this one thought

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I were looking for the ground as
we look for our ground oren

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has got to be able to sink ships
establish air defense zones

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shoot down all types of missiles
in either the enemy the ability

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to communicate or to his own command
control the ground component

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commander needs to be seen by the geoff
mack and the j t f commander

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as is indispensable to the maritime
domain as we see the j facts

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about this aking is invaluable to the
joint force and very specifically

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to pay calm I look for the following
speakers in the q and a

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session thank you

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mcnulty a thank you from the bill
little bit of repetition with

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admiral montgomery but i'm reassured
because repetition must

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mean it's true that it's all as did
the same thing on the maritime

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domain and is obviously a contested
space or we would not likely

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all be in this room this afternoon
like most contestants may

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this is the competition is rarely
reduced to one arena competitions

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do not respect stovepipes regionally
in strategically the united

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states must be able to compete across
multiple domains the strategic

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rivalry that is taking place in the
region is a key characteristic

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of this domain the compact titianus
or the sea as a defect states

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in the region and thus fundamentally
it is a competition over

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an alliance system which is underpinned
regional order for decades

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a strategic rivalry for alliances
is going on in the asia pacific

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and army forces are a critical part
of prevailing in this rivalry

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from the strategic rivalry all identify
four considerations first

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geography as general brown this
morning talked about this on

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roman cumbria just talked about the pecan
anwar encompasses approximately

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half the earth's surface and more
than half of its population

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is 36 nations include two of the
three lock if the united states

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to maintain a robust presence in the
space we need to have partners

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and relationships among states
that border the region

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most of the season a calmer also
potentially close to seize if

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you count and controlled the land
around it access to the seas

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depends upon control of land and
thus for the united states on

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its allies and partners

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the army of kita bolstering alliances
and relationships in the

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region especially as other powers
are seeking to fragment these

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relationships in addition on order
to develop a common operating

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picture as admiral montgomery pointed
out a key goal of the recently

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announced maritime security initiative
we need relationships

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among allies on the ground they're
part of the development of

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the sclera operating. Picture

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rival seek to undermine existing
international order and as they

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do so they choose activities that
remain below the threshold

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of a us war partner military response

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at the strategic rivalry is the need
to consider the requirements

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of deterrence and what role armies
play in this role deterrence

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demands that we present our adversaries
with multiple dilemmas

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it involves complicating their
calculations and not censoring

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that strategically we maintain our
multiple strains are system

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of alliances as where the united states
as one of several competitive

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advantages we must maintain
that advantage

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assisting with the development of
partnership capacity as noted

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also contributes to deterrence and
as well as increasing on the

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strength of allies and regional partners
it dissuading potential

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adversaries all these aspects as
well as the aspect that admiral

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montgomery talked about ad to deterrence
as well and as gentleman

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master and others have noted once
you begin to degrade the turn

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such much harder to
restore over time

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and finally a fourth consideration
is that of conflict should

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break out our adversaries will likely
operate across all domains

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as conrad crane has pointed out
in the past and I think it's

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part of his remarks since ancient
times war is rarely if ever

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confined to one. Domain

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um as I conclude I point out that
the maritime domain illustrates

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really well from the lively debates
regarding the changing character

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of war here in this domain especially
we see debates about the

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relative weight of technology versus
other instruments of war

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especially the political relationships
that are necessary to

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prevail in long term competitions
and as long as the strategic

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rivalry in the region remained
sustained and I think it will

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competing in the political domain
in which the army and other

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services play a key role will be essential
to maintaining regional

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stability thank. You

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actually you know I must be going
as if I were a doctor drain

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i'm not a few I wondered but these
are his remarks in iowa in

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19 43 general hap arnold's army
air forces a wrestler with a

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letter from a mother concerned about
the morality of the bombing

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operations her son was executed

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I came up with the reply describing
the challenges of restraining

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warfare in the modern age which included
the statement that said

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quote law cannot limit what physics
makes possible unquote now

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as a moral philosopher eye trouble
with that but that's not the

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doctor grange point is point is
that military doctrine cannot

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defy gravity either the importance
of land power in cross domain

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that dominance is ensured by both
physics and by biology what

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goes up must come down but leaves
the land where people dwell

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must eventually return to it it
should not be surprising that

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among the the armies many war time
executive agency requirements

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is the requirement to run
theatre port facilities

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historically there are been many ways
that land power has influenced

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the other domains

25:35.090 --> 25:39.280
eventually alexander the great
realized that the best way to

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eliminate the superior persian fleet
was simply to capture all

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of its ports

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after months of brutal but futile
bombing a pardon submarine

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pens in the cities along the coast
of brittany what finally ended

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the u boat threat there in 19 44
was the third army seizing those

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bases after the breakout

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almost every major coastal city
in america boast of some old

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fortifications that remain from the
intricate systems of defences

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was designed to deny the enemy access

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such denial also applies to air
bases in 19 44 for example the

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army air force launched operation
matterhorn in amphibious planned

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to bomb japan with an ambitious
plan to bomb japan with b 29

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very heavy bombers from china general
curtis lemay labored to

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get his twentieth bomber group moved
from india to china including

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flying supplies over the fearsome
hung across the himalayas and

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building new airfields with rocks
and peasant laborers in china

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attack started from these chinese
bases in the summer but did

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not really start to become bothersome
for the chinese until the

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fall then the chinese conducted operation
ichi go a land campaign

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to eliminate the troublesome airfields
negating the threat in

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invalidating the immense logistical
efforts by early 19 45 as

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will be discussed throughout this
symposium ground based defences

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can also restrict access to the
arid domain in 19 73 fully one

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quarter of the israeli air force
was downed by the egyptian air

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defence built early in the unc implore
war however when the overconfident

27:40.080 --> 27:44.060
egyptians moved their major land
forces deeper into the sinai

27:44.674 --> 27:49.250
the israeli army was able to get
behind and drive through and

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destroyed the bells thereby freeing
up the israeli air force

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for normal operations and there's
no more efficient way to take

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out a radar set into shooter tank
round through it there is also

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many examples of ground attacks to
take out your defense to allow

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greater access of the sea and often
the easiest way to destroy

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ground based air defence systems
had been simply to overrun them

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with land forces either special
operations or conventional

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land power can also be used to
expand the range and power of

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the air force's general delbert
douglas macarthur new guinea

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campaign is a fine example of that
his concept of try it gives

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up on warfare involves progressing
shore assaults along the coast

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of an island to seize ground ground
and to build airfields those

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new bases would then provide the
air support for the next advance

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similar relationships will play
out in new domains like space

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inside the best locations for space
based platforms are still

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determined by where people live
on the ground there actually

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is key terrain in space the most
dangerous geo synchronous orbits

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to reach maxim love sex on the targets
on land this is catering

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doctor crane spent about six months
working with cyber command

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and operational guidance and from
that experience he learned

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that the surest way to deal with a
computer hacker remains shooting

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a bullet through them and their computer

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I suspect that future operations
will ensure access to the cyber

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domain will include very familiar
targeted raids to eliminate

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key enemies with the precise violence
that only a soldier can

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deliver though that
was a doctor crane

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john well i'm i'm john were numb
from the us it's arms researched

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all mentioning command on I j t
I probably get the best job in

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the army is one that we don't grow
it's one that you stumble

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into I got called in by the chief
staff said here's your mission

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and he told me said that you have
the mission to ensure the size

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of a match for the army the joint
enters our nation by sending

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an agent from now to 20 40 and
beyond so in an early that he

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has a mission statements come like
a history paper write the

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history of mankind from beginning
to the end but um i'm italia

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the rubble we do here um I own 75%
of the army's institute budget

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you have engineers to medical out
there and have some personnel

30:37.013 --> 30:40.330
we get about five point four billion
dollars a year that comes

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from them the base budget and then
add on to a congressional

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analysts we have over a thousand
different collaborative research

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and development agreements with
industries all talk to some of

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you out here about the work that
we do with industry we have

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over 15 hundred different to agreements
with universities around

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the world where we're funding research
at universities um we

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also have over 500 partnerships
of the formed from slabs and

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things that nature so that one of
things that I I thought here

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when I heard some the discussion
here and I heard that you know

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presence is very important in this
theater and right now you

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may not know it but we're in 13
of the 36 countries usually 12

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or 12 I think of the 36 countries
here with our in agreements

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with partnerships bilateral agreements
that we're sharing technology

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sharing information out in the in
the pacific area will get your

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mom around reading on that but what
you know that we integrate

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or indeed the searched all the
technology arm to enable joint

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forces and improve cross domain
capabilities um before I start

31:45.357 --> 31:49.060
talking about technology and talk
about that soldiers are always

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or keep their or cornerstone of
our army that will never change

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and you heard john brown talk bell
to the human domain we spent

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a lot of time on the human domain
and what we need to do to humans

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to augment capability in if you
read the papers and you hear

32:05.310 --> 32:08.730
what's going on and sportsworld and
enhanced performance enhancing

32:08.730 --> 32:12.566
drugs I can assure you that adversaries
are given the same time

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and are they staying just with
performance enhancing drug or

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are they using biotechnology to
increase their performance so

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so what we do have a wheel meant
area socially calling intensely

32:25.570 --> 32:29.447
physically in a huddle we do bring
to brain transfer raina machine

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censored unnerve technologies and
hosting sound far out there

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but i'll tell you were done that
now and uh so those are all

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things a workman's we inform the human
domain and optimize capabilities

32:41.310 --> 32:45.680
for our jobs for our soldiers in
that in the future we take the

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science we translate technology
and we deliver capability so

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the technology alone has to be
used in terms of an army were

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fighting challenge and operational
sapped of how we're gonna

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use that technology the technology
alone will geddes there's

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how we use it in operating concept
of that conference so he helped

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incorporate the don't know p f into
the work that we do so we'll

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be down here to get that cross the
main we've lined all r s and

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t tests that we are funded with
allying them to the army were

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fighting challenges allowing them
to the key technology imperatives

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so that we know what we're spending
on what we're getting on

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wee eck getting across the main
relieved the department defense

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and uh for a different committees
a practice out whether its

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autonomous systems weather sensors
weapons or technology we lead

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deal de in all the other services
in the many practices the results

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we bring back we bring back and
we share with the services the

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autonomous systems will share will
rotate out the shirts for

33:45.585 --> 33:49.529
mark charnock it'll go to another
service from that standpoint

33:49.886 --> 33:53.770
it offered little to talk on cyber
hino and cyborg you know it's

33:53.770 --> 33:57.484
a domain but only with a question
here or it's a domain but if

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used as an edge of its war fighting
concept right so I say cyber

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operations and went severally about
it's really about protecting

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the network right had we defend
the network because we're gonna

34:08.600 --> 34:12.460
put more than just cyber on the
network is an informal warfare

34:12.833 --> 34:17.500
or input humans a young mechanic
warfare if I look inside and

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I look at the different capabilities
we have violent this room

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what can I do in the cyber realm
or do I have any missions that

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I can control I can probably do
something this microphone I can

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probably do something to those speakers
over there I can produce

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on those computers to get a cyber
effect occurring on so what

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is the neck it's that we've heard
about the use of the network

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the next step we gotta do is we
gotta protect our platforms so

34:44.200 --> 34:48.281
how do you make your platform cyber
resistant right and how do

34:48.281 --> 34:53.450
you ashore and an inshore a short
position navigation and timing

34:54.180 --> 34:56.030
you know when you're out there
and make sure that what you're

34:56.030 --> 34:58.134
looking at is where you're going
what you're firing ends which

34:58.176 --> 35:01.440
are going ahead because it for
not developing the counter to

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the counter to the counter and
were already behind or ad the

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series so had we use atomic clocks
would we put layers on to

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disrupt that and deny that and
how do we get after that it's

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all these things are some things
it will work on it all right

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now here don't wanna leave you with
a thought here there's couple

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thoughts here so in already come
the easy engineers ok so we

35:21.800 --> 35:24.780
look at everyone things were doing
the research the deep futures

35:24.780 --> 35:28.696
which we do there's also occur not
part of that and the colonel's

35:28.702 --> 35:31.981
parties were all those engineers
come in so you're concentrating

35:31.981 --> 35:36.427
all the engineering and the engineering
part is getting at innovations

35:36.427 --> 35:39.940
or how to re purpose different equipment
having to take the field

35:39.940 --> 35:43.040
artillery system and turner field
artillery system into an air

35:43.040 --> 35:47.637
defense system and into account or
u s system right and encounter

35:47.807 --> 35:51.700
us system I don't wanna just you
know I wanna manage the traffic

35:52.290 --> 35:56.022
on a nowhere it is by one of the
ima get control that county

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without you I guess I won either
be able to destroy yet on either

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wanna be able to send it turn it
and use it back so it's working

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for us and I want you there be able
to bring up facts and understand

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where that us came from sonic sample
current ops when he heard

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that the countered the a the wavy
landed on the white house who

36:14.040 --> 36:17.610
gets a call we get that call we
get that call to figure out how

36:17.610 --> 36:21.500
you fix that call and how do you
put up some sort of defense

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and configure some some sort of
capability to get out and um

36:27.460 --> 36:30.384
so that e l met one of things that
we've done the people know

36:30.384 --> 36:33.513
about if those you cover your hear
an oculus you're here at home

36:33.513 --> 36:36.521
and you're hearing in earlier apple
iphone weave developed a

36:36.521 --> 36:40.280
law that technology that has been
used in conjuncture with industry

36:40.480 --> 36:45.450
that has turned into a product we've
had 23 nobel laureates that

36:45.450 --> 36:48.279
we have funded research for you
know they may have been working

36:48.279 --> 36:51.690
on super lattices supercomputers
they may have been working on

36:51.690 --> 36:55.580
quantum physics quantum effects and
and then what is that translate

36:55.580 --> 36:59.720
into knowledge terry application
so we talk about two id we talk

36:59.720 --> 37:03.350
about you know mexico we talk about
around the world how do we

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take quantum sensing and turn into
a capability so what's the

37:08.130 --> 37:11.980
capability while we can detect tunnels
and we can detect tunnels

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to a certain level we can do it from
the air so if we can detect

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tunnels from the air then what can
we do in the water zone across

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the main capability the technology
the science translates in

37:24.563 --> 37:28.460
a capability so I can detect tunnels
you know maybe I can detect

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metal and I can now determine what
I can do underwater and I

37:32.730 --> 37:36.381
can see clearly what's in the water
and I can see and ensure

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there janelle hiding below the water

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we just recently opened up the
army research lab out west but

37:42.821 --> 37:46.470
we came to the conclusion was that
60% of all the scientists

37:46.470 --> 37:50.198
engineers on the east coast sword
not attracting the westcoast

37:50.228 --> 37:55.278
scientist chale army research lab
is the open campus its forget

37:55.410 --> 38:00.390
at artificial intelligence general
knows him very well um we

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were doin' out there it's part of
the the third officer strategy

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that you hear from that the secretary
defense the first offset

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strategy you know was nuclear weapons
the second offset strategy

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was cheap yes were precision guided
munitions third offset is

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getting at artificial intelligence
autonomous systems robotics

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big data so that's what we're focused
now from future nets across

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domain capability that we bring
back to bring back here that

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will give us um a lot of the artificial
intelligence that we

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will use in it you know in our
formations we run four of the

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six president innovation initiatives
are open campus and consortium

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between industry academia and the
department defense we lead

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those were competing for robotics
right now and if we can link

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those centers with our research
about mentioning centers are

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labs and he's now we've created this
global assam tea apple system

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so we're trying to do is in the
deep is get out and to global

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scouting because we know that the
army has certain capabilities

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but were dependent upon industry
and academia to bring other

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capabilities to us so that's a
key thing that were donors had

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we go al and don gain information
so so you we talked about the

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third all such strategy in an indo
one account just a couple

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more one liners here I am so much
beyond the third option strategy

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ok so much a think about that we
talked of third offset strange's

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mansion to autonomous systems a
hide all that so what's beyond

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them on the deep futures had we
fight and what I tell everyone

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it's really the convergence right
it's really convergence is

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the future so you saw the movie divergent
and tong its conversion

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so so I knew when you think about
what happens when our when

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we converge quantum effects via
technology nano technology big

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data on the internet of things
altman and reality and we put

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that all together at some point
in the future all that's going

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to come together and it's gonna
change the way we fight and the

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way we fight it what we call that
changes the way we fight the

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doctrine is a disruptive technology
or a revolutionary technology

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so as we look to the future of the convergence
of that nano technology

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that biotechnology the big data on
the battlefield the augmented

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reality it hits a point where it's
been maximized and it changes

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the way we fight and we have to
be ready for that so that's in

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the deep future as we look at that
the current future and what

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i'll do is all all stop right there
and and in directly answering

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questions craig thank you what a real
privilege to be with everybody

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in a water tank a usa and and thank
you sir pac in particular

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for putting on this conference I think
it a critical time a critical

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time because I think that we may be
at the at the period of greatest

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risk of a major international military
crisis that we've been

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at it in the past 70 years a course
we all know that it's important

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for us to understand how to defend
our nations because all buster

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are facing this threat of transnational
terrorism of against

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that of the destruction of really
represented by enemies of all

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civilized people but what we're
seeing increasingly now is I

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think a return of geopolitics where
you have revision its powers

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were surrounded by states who were are
becoming competitive battlegrounds

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in an effort by these regional
powers to collapse the postwar

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war to surly the post cold war political
economic and security

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order and replace it with a new
water that is more sympathetic

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to those revisionist powers interests
and so it's important I

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think for us to have this conference
and recognize how we work

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together and support in particular
their allies are here in our

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thank all of you traveled all because
this is a problem all the

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space and it highlights the importance
of was cooperating together

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on this rhett to international. Security

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when elected to talk about is is
obviously the land forces role

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in preventing conflict and in the
case of war responding to and

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resolving crises in a recent in
a recent speech admiral harris

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asked a great question he said
what role does land power play

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in ensuring access to shared domains
of the pacific and I think

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our pounced on a great job answering
the core that question as

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well like the summit open and really
is very consistent with

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water palace a separated I think
our army's answer is that army

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forces in short access to shared
domains by first providing found

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visual capabilities to the joint
force second cooperating and

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forging relationships with
allies and partners

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third competing with rivals below
the threshold of our open armed

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conflict and fourth and when necessary
prevailing in armed conflict

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through joint combined arms maneuver

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and as we look at the threats to
national international security

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it puts a premium as rare montgomery
of as already said on joint

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operations all of us recognize especially
journal wharton that

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the elements of are differential
advantage over future enemies

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that is most transferable to our
enemies is technology were r

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differential advantage comes from
his combining as joe browne

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said this morning technology with well
trained soldiers and cohesive

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teams they're able to combine multiple
technologies to seize

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retain it and exploit the initiative

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and it's also that this is it also
relates to joint power that

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american military power is joint
power and we need to view our

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military power as joint power today
more than ever because it

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is it is our military's ability
to employ all services together

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in a synergistic way which each service

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compensate for the weaknesses of
and accentuates the strengths

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of the other that will again give
us that differential advantage

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wife joy port power more important
than ever I think because

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our enemies are going for fundamental
things that will ensure

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that there is not a single service
along mission to the complex

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problem of future war first our enemies
will take action to evade

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what they see is our strikes for a
for example a long range strike

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capabilities writer especially on
land not as as conrad cranes

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papers and wrote all these problems
originate on land and was

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return to land for enemies on land
will try to avoid being classified

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as targets that you have to recognize
it will take joint capabilities

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to address those threats that and
that emanate from the land

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the second our enemies will to try
to disrupt our capabilities

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as john board has already said
we have to adjust a paid enemy

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countermeasures and then to understand
how to build resiliency

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and r four so we can quite degraded
so we can have redundant

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capabilities and deny our enemy the
ability to disrupt what they

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perceive as are strikes and joint
power can do that if you compose

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the enemy with multiple dilemma
is the third we see an image

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of the as alluded to this already
our enemies will emulate our

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our capabilities they will adopt
our technologies or steal or

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technologies as china has already
engaged in the largest theft

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of international affairs of intellectual
property in history

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and then fourth our enemies will
expand on to other battlegrounds

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as I mentioned what we see these
revisionist powers doing is

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really waging a form of limited war
for limited objectives trying

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to achieve objectives through sophisticated
campaigns the combined

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military operations or are unconvinced
cooperations under the

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cover of conventional military power
with economic action actions

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and and and the informational active
propaganda disinformation

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and awe as I mentioned are also
theft of intellectual property

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cyber activities and and and operations
to the expanding onto

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onto these other battle rounds and
it's why we need a joint response

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to these kind of this conference
so so as I mentioned what is

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army during fourth and fees for areas
we have to we have to establish

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that foundation for the joint force
and I had a list of things

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what were abnormal gummy aki are
already mentioned most of these

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are highlight is well communications
intelligence two wing aviation

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logistics engineering and walk alright
already mentioned a theater

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ballistic missile defense we should
just we should know the globally

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9000 active duty army soldiers are
committed to theater missile

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defense alone georgia foundation
capabilities in the second area

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cooperating with allies and partners

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of course we truly engaged in forward
positioned army forces

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are critical to building relationship
enhancing our awareness

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of security problems and assuring
our partners and this kind

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of cooperation deters our adversaries
and helps maintain collective

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resolve against the strategic behavior
that I think is best characterized

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as probing probing our allies and
partners at the far reaches

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of american power

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in the third area competing below
the threshold of armed conflict

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at the nadia covered this extremely
well but I think we should

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not undervalue the important the
importance of ford position

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army soldiers along the frontier
we should wrecking guys that

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since 19 53 four positioned army
forces on the peninsula have

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prevented a prevented a return
of large scale conflict on the

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korean. Peninsula

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and then finally prevailing in armed
conflict we already mentioned

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cross domain fires I would recommend
that we consider really

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calling that joint combined arms
maneuver what's important is

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fires to achieve a certain effect
against the target but we war

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is more than a targeting exercise
wheel originates on land because

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it is a political competition because
it is driven by human beings

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and unless you can control the land
in the territory you cannot

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impose an outcome without the cooperate
tion of your enemies

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so it's more the cross domain fires
its cross domain fires and

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maneuver maneuver is often important
to get your fires in an

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advantageous position

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and fires then are used to create
opportunities for for further

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maneuvering dr crane's paper actually
talked to some historical

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perspective about that kind of synergy

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so I think we have to focus on not
just effects on targets but

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outcomes but we want to achieve
short of war and in war

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so the what should we do what we
focus on our army to make these

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can a contributions to the joint
force three thinks readiness

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because I think the risk is increasing
we must be ready as our

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chief of staff for milian said
we must be ready to fight the

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second is we have to develop new
capabilities those capabilities

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are rear admiral montgomery mentioned
I think or can be particularly

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critical in the pacific but also have
application in other theatres

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as well crossin made fires the
radar capabilities situational

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where's the ability again to flight
as an integrated joint force

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the third is capacity there's been
this idea that we can trade

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capacity or size of forces

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for a narrow range of exquisite technologies
I believe personally

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that trend has bottomed out and
we are risk of not having the

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capacity or size of force necessary
to deal received growing

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threats in this region and elsewhere

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so I think overall that the well
known quotation by the british

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naval historian julian corbett still
adheres to the to the situations

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today which is that our navy announced
their air force as well

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as important not only because what
they do in their domains but

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because what they allow land forces
to do on land and that army

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record special operations forces
but I think today we should

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also say that are the capabilities
are important not only because

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of what they should muster one
land to protect our nation our

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vital interests but because of
what they allow our air force

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and our navy to do in the aerospace
and maritime and they called

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us in the in the cyberspace domains
so what should we all do

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together our allies partners are
services trade off working as

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so wells we had without with user
pack we have to do for things

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first we have to think clearly about
the problem of future war

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we have to lay a strong conceptual
foundation of how we fight

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together as joint team the second
which is we have to learn in

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a focused sustained and collaborative
manner over time and lord

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through an appropriate for a a work
or free work we believe is

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working well for us of the war
fighting challenges the third

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is we have to analyze what we're
learning so we can prioritize

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our efforts to become more effective
as a joint and multinational

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force to deter conflict and accomplish
it fail to prevail in

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war and then fourth we have to implement
we have to deliver these

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capabilities to the joint force
so thanks for the up to be part

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of this great panel in it look forward
to hearing what your questions

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are thank you

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title thank you to everyone on the
panel that preciate ya your

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initial comments we have several
questions i'll start their major

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general wharton now with with you
know the question is this of

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the assault breaker program in the
late seventies and eighties

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produced many doctrinal material
innovation was between the army

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of the air force is there a similar
multi domain material he'll

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program that may drive doctrine and
material innovations he five

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domain anti axis aerial denial environment

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now is it so that's a great question
and done and that's where

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that we talk about those khamenei
or practices that relate to

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a federalist de there's about 12 to
13 different means of practice

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and we leave those wolves once
I mentioned to you and it's a

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cross services to inner governmental
at sega i'm a joint picture

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and and what happens is the results
from that or translated over

53:59.340 --> 54:03.260
into doctrine and doctrines like
there if I were to talk to right

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now I talked about the 20 25 forces
to give an example 20 25

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forces 95% built materially you know
so so we were workin' through

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trade aachen archaic on the dot
nokia solutions and how one of

54:17.229 --> 54:21.030
these operating concepts or tonight
or delist the levels of the

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form that the takes it and then integrates
said is you know used

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to have a joint operating concepts
you know the job sees what

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used to be known on the joint staff
and joint forces command

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and material solutions showed that
the four arms are used to

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do that to take the cross domain
platforms are the committees

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a practice are done at the iowa
state level and his committee

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to practices that we do internally
within the army to get specific

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capabilities everything that you
see with research development

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engineering centers we are talking
to those 500 and those 500

54:53.236 --> 54:57.310
department hms aquatic research
agreements with the odi labs

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is getting at that sharing that
information proliferated that

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technology or open arms on the technology
and all that and and

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there's parts where we have to stop
him nancy that senator for

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classification but the bottom line
is those of the forms that

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we we do those of benson

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a package of the one second idea
but also say I think long term

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not me I think it the joint level
what we're a very specific

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office for those eight to aid the
developments we had the air

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see that officer is often a couple
often from the air force of

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the original of the founding members
of that about seven years

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ago it's been renamed to include
the army now in a now has an

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impossible acronym and names on
one attempt to get at it but

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I I the idea there is something along
the lines of air land battle

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that produced about 83 initiatives
procedures or products that

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I think the final one that find
the last one to deliver it was

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j stars and not in the late nineties
was the last of the product

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from the air land battle delivered
if we think about what made

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a successful 19 91 in 2001 2003
where the products of that air

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land battle despite the fact that
the war were the wars we're

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fighting then had very little in
common with the words we were

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planning for their land battles I
think the air sea battle office

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with its new joint name which are
members of secular members

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roy concept for operational access
to maneuver in the global

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commons hence now stand by my by
my thought that possibly air

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sea battles a better name idea if
you put landed there it would

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be no air seal have been assessed
it is the where the people

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are and so I put my thought process
is this that what what i've

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seen most out of that air sea battle
office was the capturing

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of unique technologies developed
within one service being applied

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either retrofitted on fourth generation
navy or air force or

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vice versa or individualized programs
and I think that's why

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think there's fantastic opportunity
for the army know where you

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can take a traditional land based
uk no either army marine corps

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owned a fire system apply a navy
or marine corps and navy or

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air force research product on the
top of it whether to censor

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a few to india a warhead a se two
system or on your radar those

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could all integrate back of what
I really think will see the

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kind of success that we've seen
in like interviewed them and

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empty is modest at a great cost
and in a greater mass of the

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trial site there's real opportunity
and I think you've hit on

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a great points so i'm just one more
common to that is edits are

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engineers were working for him to
be a better design it if you

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know them da doesn't have a research
development sharing center

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cecil already common generic term
is when I say that because

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we sometimes we mix of site in a
few take future vertical lift

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right that's an army were the executive
agent lead service the

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other services are there but that will
have cross service applications

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right so one of those those technologies
jewelry ears rather

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see which one was you know the age
one innovation not those are

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all you know breaking on new technologies
and are destructive

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and change the way we fight so so
a lot of that happens in those

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forms there too and down in the
missile defenses down at r r

58:16.210 --> 58:19.820
m r check that we support for
engineers and. Researchers

58:21.980 --> 58:27.220
k admiral montgomery we had to
actually for you so the first

58:27.220 --> 58:32.230
one you mentioned using systems
like paladin to engage maritime

58:32.230 --> 58:36.330
targets can you share in his unclassified
audience about what

58:36.330 --> 58:40.900
ranges and the kinds of targets
you would like to see engaged

58:41.421 --> 58:46.271
checkup secular also another thing
yes check it what here or

58:46.313 --> 58:47.208
is the

58:48.910 --> 58:53.310
with the pending arbitration with
the un tribunals regarding

58:53.310 --> 58:57.701
the territorial dispute between
china and the philippines what

58:57.701 --> 59:03.020
do you anticipate china might do
if the tribunal does not rule

59:03.020 --> 59:07.150
in their favor additionally how
do you think we would we would

59:07.150 --> 59:08.850
react to their actions

59:10.656 --> 59:14.916
i'll do the first one first possesses
lot easier a on the yacht

59:15.061 --> 59:18.898
on the systems and managed in a
sit here and not in a put out

59:18.898 --> 59:22.600
a jewel on zero five or a on ios
encounter janine requester but

59:22.600 --> 59:28.520
I will tell you that I um it long
range amino 300 climbers or

59:28.520 --> 59:32.560
more why not a main the truth is
i'm sure that our ability to

59:32.560 --> 59:37.209
deliver on surface projectiles
is increasing dramatically in

59:37.209 --> 59:40.690
all if you think about the increase
in the last 50 years and

59:40.690 --> 59:43.970
then in the last five in the city
up to five years ago the last

59:43.970 --> 59:48.760
five years a phenomenal research
development success and irony

59:48.760 --> 59:52.430
is there's difference excesses any
service isi sermons successes

59:52.430 --> 59:57.750
in the army on a speed on round species
as to the navy on a censor's

59:57.750 --> 01:00:01.300
ability to survive the mock in
then dublin and act in a very

01:00:01.790 --> 01:00:07.480
intelligent way you see i'm out
to different areas of growth

01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:11.290
across the services so what like
I really like to see as a long

01:00:11.290 --> 01:00:15.210
range weapon that goes out thanks
and then strikes whatever target

01:00:15.210 --> 01:00:18.610
I told it to and I can't find it
comes back to me and asked what

01:00:18.610 --> 01:00:22.580
should I do next and we get a bit
that did as far as i'm concerned

01:00:22.580 --> 01:00:26.710
faster more accurate and longer
range or the book or the crime

01:00:26.710 --> 01:00:31.040
or the day and that no man of uk
intellectual gain of richard

01:00:31.101 --> 01:00:35.290
about began last five years obv
double or triples would happen

01:00:35.290 --> 01:00:39.010
in the 50 years before I think that
says a lot about what happens

01:00:39.220 --> 01:00:44.210
when we put the hour when we focus
our service aren't the entities

01:00:44.560 --> 01:00:47.650
on these really challenging problems
and that you know there

01:00:47.650 --> 01:00:50.790
is no other but no better product
in these lush products are

01:00:50.790 --> 01:00:54.880
come outside I can give you as mrs
the grange I say long range

01:00:55.060 --> 01:00:57.370
if you wanna measure from one into
the south jersey the other

01:00:57.709 --> 01:01:01.580
as in the rain for you and I and
eight in any tar anything that

01:01:01.580 --> 01:01:04.970
in the south china sea area gobineau
secundus and united with

01:01:04.971 --> 01:01:08.260
the south I say you can bake the black
sea you can pick the mediterranean

01:01:08.260 --> 01:01:11.250
sea that's what we need to do if
you wanna have that can impact

01:01:12.069 --> 01:01:14.780
a second questions when it has not
thing to do with the discussion

01:01:14.780 --> 01:01:18.720
we had on a maritime domain ama hare
sabina tomorrow and I fully

01:01:18.856 --> 01:01:24.053
suggest you ask him and die and i'd
be interested in years answer

01:01:26.001 --> 01:01:27.565
i'm an all american hero

01:01:28.793 --> 01:01:34.155
so doctor shadow though both history
and the current problem

01:01:34.155 --> 01:01:40.320
set a confirmed the necessity of joint
are now cross domain approaches

01:01:41.510 --> 01:01:46.042
in your opinion what makes a single
domain approaches so seductive

01:01:46.042 --> 01:01:51.760
or so resilient is inside a washington
phenomenon just budget

01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:55.502
phenomenon just naive t I
do you are you a. Shift

01:01:58.620 --> 01:02:02.190
I think it is it's it's very much
a I mean it's not probably

01:02:02.190 --> 01:02:05.560
just a washington phenomenon I think
probably not in the corporate

01:02:05.560 --> 01:02:08.510
world many of you in the audience
know more about that than I

01:02:08.510 --> 01:02:13.700
do but essentially it's yes it it's
budgetary amidst the complexity

01:02:13.700 --> 01:02:17.831
of the environment overall so and
increasing tendency towards

01:02:17.831 --> 01:02:23.323
best specialization on its culture
are still on display obviously

01:02:23.340 --> 01:02:26.580
goldwater nichols than the joint
fighting environment there still

01:02:26.580 --> 01:02:30.271
very strong cultural attributes
of every service and i'm sure

01:02:30.271 --> 01:02:33.470
the same is true in other countries
as well so I think all these

01:02:33.470 --> 01:02:37.040
things contribute to wanting to
see where you can prevail in

01:02:37.040 --> 01:02:41.050
your domain that your expert on
and the problem is how you the

01:02:41.050 --> 01:02:44.500
problem of integration which which
on general wharton alluded

01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:49.320
to as well even and in the technical
world world so I think it's

01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:52.980
also very applicable to the domestic
domain to write its budget

01:02:52.980 --> 01:02:58.980
driven on appropriations driven
on the way a title 10 works but

01:02:58.980 --> 01:03:03.180
warfare in competition as we see
it on doesn't really conform

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.970
to um to those attributes of
the policy making. Process

01:03:09.330 --> 01:03:14.390
thank you a jelly nash a question
here's for you a land based

01:03:14.690 --> 01:03:20.770
anti ship missiles or four m l r
ashton high marks are scalable

01:03:20.770 --> 01:03:25.150
flexible deterrent option that could
be deployed to counter naval

01:03:25.150 --> 01:03:29.559
aggression in disputed sea lanes
of the community cation what

01:03:29.560 --> 01:03:33.480
are your thoughts on this innovation
and the capabilities that

01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:38.840
it would provide a geographic combatant
command while these tremendous

01:03:38.840 --> 01:03:41.808
capability and I think it's not
just those systems but it's all

01:03:42.175 --> 01:03:44.920
of the systems that we wanted to
help him beyond the systems

01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:48.940
to be able to have crossed the main
fires capabilities so what

01:03:48.940 --> 01:03:53.760
we think is it in the future a fire's
unit or maneuver unit that

01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:58.750
has a fire unit integrated into it
will have the ability to conduct

01:03:58.750 --> 01:04:03.330
surface to surface surface to air
and shorter ship and will have

01:04:03.330 --> 01:04:07.010
their conflicts ability to to do
all three were endeavoring to

01:04:07.010 --> 01:04:12.220
do is to pose an enemy with multiple
dilemmas and and especially

01:04:12.220 --> 01:04:15.720
in this in this theater you can
see of so the application with

01:04:15.720 --> 01:04:19.331
long range systems however montgomery
mentioned that the amount

01:04:19.331 --> 01:04:23.270
of shipping the concert it through
comes through the other region

01:04:23.980 --> 01:04:27.470
and that shipping has to move through
checkpoints for example

01:04:27.470 --> 01:04:30.811
chokepoints for example and so
as it would be much easier to

01:04:30.811 --> 01:04:35.570
control the maritime domain and
a lot of ways it's easier to

01:04:35.570 --> 01:04:39.290
do it from the land because the
persistence of those systems

01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.300
if there is an anti access problem
it's not anti axis problem

01:04:44.590 --> 01:04:48.044
if you're already there in a source
of therefore position capable

01:04:48.044 --> 01:04:52.020
is already there you could have those
kind of affects and course

01:04:52.020 --> 01:04:55.630
you have the ability on where to
conceal systems to use deception

01:04:55.890 --> 01:04:59.721
and so forth so what we've already
we've already done a demonstration

01:04:59.721 --> 01:05:03.530
of this capability we know we can
do it now and I were doing

01:05:03.530 --> 01:05:06.740
everything we can to excel rate that
capability across the force

01:05:07.305 --> 01:05:10.590
that is acid with the technology
the doctrine we have a draft

01:05:10.590 --> 01:05:15.580
concept that we can sherif secure
pretty soon on on off on cross

01:05:15.580 --> 01:05:20.970
domain of fires and maneuver and so
we have a conception a conceptual

01:05:20.970 --> 01:05:24.920
foundation building and then also
its organizational as well

01:05:25.300 --> 01:05:28.770
we think not only in this theater
but in others we need long

01:05:28.770 --> 01:05:33.515
range in a near terminal rocket artillery
capabilities even within

01:05:33.548 --> 01:05:36.720
arbor gates we think there may
be other organizational things

01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:40.920
we could do as well for example
were exploring this idea of a

01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:44.730
reconnaissance and security strike
group other could be a four

01:05:44.730 --> 01:05:49.261
position unit that could conduct a
security operation in a theater

01:05:49.261 --> 01:05:54.550
where where a a revisionist powers
to reckoning allies of this

01:05:54.550 --> 01:05:57.329
would be an organization can conduct
a security operation and

01:05:57.329 --> 01:06:01.080
have all the kind of enabler he would
wanted to have a long range

01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:03.950
radar capabilities electronic and
signal intelligence capabilities

01:06:03.950 --> 01:06:08.450
electronic warfare long range precision
strike capabilities and

01:06:08.450 --> 01:06:12.730
so that's easily a unique easily reinforce
I should appoint forces

01:06:12.730 --> 01:06:17.890
in times of crisis so at the short
answer is yes we were pursuing

01:06:17.890 --> 01:06:21.850
it or try to excel rated edwards
everyone integrated doctrine

01:06:21.850 --> 01:06:25.698
organizational out a solution
to this. Problem

01:06:28.265 --> 01:06:32.167
john senden one you know one thing
here is is that i'm going

01:06:32.281 --> 01:06:35.140
on to join messrs comment there
which really trying to do here

01:06:35.140 --> 01:06:38.280
and having two tours in this area
in oh you're you're really

01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:42.510
trying to maintain phase zero operations
right and and provide

01:06:42.510 --> 01:06:46.600
you know deterrent options and we do
that from technology standpoint

01:06:46.600 --> 01:06:49.400
but but you really you know you
know if there's a difference

01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:53.070
between you know cooperation there's
a difference between competition

01:06:53.520 --> 01:06:56.540
a difference between confrontation
and difference between conflict

01:06:57.050 --> 01:07:00.650
right so we all tend to go to the
conflict because royal military

01:07:00.650 --> 01:07:04.548
and things about nature but there's
degrees of all that the church

01:07:04.549 --> 01:07:08.164
of must and enter in or what we are
were demonstrating atmosphere

01:07:08.164 --> 01:07:11.390
is part of pacific pathways for general
brown organ into a mobile

01:07:11.390 --> 01:07:15.760
land based anti ship demonstration
in oh we're working with a

01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:20.930
west d allen in a some strategic capabilities
of you know hypersonic

01:07:20.930 --> 01:07:25.560
weapons an end re purposing again
some of the systems we have

01:07:25.688 --> 01:07:29.440
that are used for chiller systems
to get further ranges and to

01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:32.670
take down different types of targets
so there's a technology

01:07:32.670 --> 01:07:37.150
to that um I just wanna keep going
back to the phase zero heidi

01:07:37.245 --> 01:07:42.010
maintain phase zero and die and and
and provide you know deterrent

01:07:42.060 --> 01:07:45.400
options and in our case had we
leverage technology bring that

01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.982
here so that we can provide the those
multiple dilemmas to adversary

01:07:49.982 --> 01:07:53.511
so that you're not wanting to get
to regional conflicts and things

01:07:53.511 --> 01:07:54.065
that nature

01:07:55.677 --> 01:07:58.180
I just wanted to make one more comment
that was related to the

01:07:58.180 --> 01:08:00.800
question that was addressed to me
but also to the to the phase

01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:05.000
zero point on a thin probably part
of the problem with the term

01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.510
phase zero is that it doesn't capture
the elements of competition

01:08:08.510 --> 01:08:11.959
going on in that phase and maybe
we need a better term to capture

01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:15.890
that nature of the competition
it sort of is a neutral phrase

01:08:15.890 --> 01:08:19.110
and I don't think it captures what's
going on i'm in and second

01:08:19.140 --> 01:08:23.550
a problem which i'm with talked
about in the past is that few

01:08:23.550 --> 01:08:27.107
other entities in the united states
maybe we have a lot that

01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:29.450
mediates different internationally
and many of you can speak

01:08:29.450 --> 01:08:32.960
to that here but few entities other
than the military in the

01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:36.980
intelligence communities think
competitively so all of our we

01:08:36.980 --> 01:08:40.230
talk about other instruments of
national power if you identify

01:08:40.230 --> 01:08:43.990
those other instruments few think
and operate in a competitive

01:08:44.030 --> 01:08:48.440
way and that's a key problem in
a key problem also in dealing

01:08:48.440 --> 01:08:51.622
with them the nature of war today
and actually the nature of

01:08:51.622 --> 01:08:54.800
war in the past in the past we
had a lot more flexibility in

01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:58.046
some ways post world war two a people
could do different things

01:08:58.046 --> 01:09:03.090
some in a more flexible way like
iraq or sea which may be on

01:09:03.240 --> 01:09:06.760
and maybe maybe it overcame some
of the problems of not thinking

01:09:06.760 --> 01:09:08.250
competitively banks

01:09:09.480 --> 01:09:13.390
well i'll get away position made
their commodore after the next

01:09:13.390 --> 01:09:17.510
question so the average for you
I do see a role for the defence

01:09:17.540 --> 01:09:21.900
industries in helping to educate
us political leaders and the

01:09:21.900 --> 01:09:26.370
american people on both the strategic
competition that we're

01:09:26.370 --> 01:09:32.411
facing an appropriate u s responses
that me here I am and get

01:09:32.411 --> 01:09:35.380
probably general morton would would
have comments on that an

01:09:35.708 --> 01:09:38.980
ordinary I mean yes I think so
in the sense it probably be a

01:09:38.980 --> 01:09:41.890
you're on the ground you're talking
to interlocutors all the

01:09:41.890 --> 01:09:46.070
time at all different levels seeing
what's going on on when you

01:09:46.070 --> 01:09:48.770
look at the size of our country
teams in many countries around

01:09:48.770 --> 01:09:52.440
the world am certainly probably
some defense industries are in

01:09:52.440 --> 01:09:55.180
other countries are comparable to
what state department country

01:09:55.180 --> 01:09:58.690
team has available is usually one
economic officer right in an

01:09:58.690 --> 01:10:02.030
embassy so I think yes I think you
probably have a lot to offer

01:10:02.380 --> 01:10:06.380
on i'm sure again the bureaucracy
in the channels for communicating

01:10:06.380 --> 01:10:09.750
your knowledge are probably hampered
in lots of ways because

01:10:09.750 --> 01:10:13.189
of our system but those might be
useful to think through in what

01:10:13.190 --> 01:10:15.860
are the kinds of things you wish
you would like to say to improve

01:10:15.860 --> 01:10:19.400
communication and exchange of information
a gentle warm public

01:10:19.401 --> 01:10:22.760
seizes the lapse of the way and that's
why we said that in others

01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:25.840
over a thousand different corporate
research and development

01:10:25.870 --> 01:10:29.220
agreements with industry i'm we're
counting on industry to give

01:10:29.220 --> 01:10:32.730
us that decisive over match you
know there's niche capabilities

01:10:32.730 --> 01:10:35.870
we just don't do or were not at
the forefront within the army

01:10:35.870 --> 01:10:39.800
over the within the joint or within
the o d so the dependence

01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:43.680
upon industry is very high in the
reliance we're counting on

01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:48.013
you we're counting on with the academic
cfd a universe she leaves

01:10:48.013 --> 01:10:51.550
to get us the basic and applied
sciences as we translate that

01:10:51.566 --> 01:10:57.580
capability so so we certainly are
dependent upon non upon industry

01:10:57.930 --> 01:11:01.680
and that we know that you really
don't make money in the r and

01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:05.950
d land from an industry standpoint
until it hits the production

01:11:05.950 --> 01:11:09.640
line so we're very well aware of
that it's it one in only that

01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:12.380
interstate that technology translates
into production line you

01:11:12.380 --> 01:11:16.370
go on a production of a platform
is when you make money so so

01:11:16.370 --> 01:11:18.960
that's why we're trying to get
more that proto typing dollars

01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.898
right and there's concern will try
to do is get more prototype

01:11:21.898 --> 01:11:26.450
into demonstrate test but that prototype
being is to share more

01:11:26.450 --> 01:11:29.500
with industry and for weather its
components with its platforms

01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:34.160
as much as within the organic cotton
desha lace or in our case

01:11:34.160 --> 01:11:37.430
of the army so it's a bouncer to
trade off what is optimal we

01:11:37.430 --> 01:11:41.310
don't know it informs us informs
requirements we can save money

01:11:41.610 --> 01:11:44.580
we know that industries were were
dependent on industry for the

01:11:44.580 --> 01:11:47.200
future and work out money
it's that simple

01:11:48.522 --> 01:11:52.882
john wharton reed actor comic about
two very short easy questions

01:11:52.896 --> 01:11:57.690
for you so first what is what's the
army doing to feel capabilities

01:11:57.690 --> 01:12:03.300
faster to meet emerging and current
threats in the cross domain

01:12:03.300 --> 01:12:09.134
environment 20 40 may be too late
and the second question is

01:12:09.134 --> 01:12:15.230
a working we leverage joined arent
de ayer in dot html pdf to

01:12:15.230 --> 01:12:20.200
empower the people that are engaged
in conducting human to human

01:12:20.200 --> 01:12:22.450
interactions that shape. Outcomes

01:12:24.230 --> 01:12:27.730
ok so I think I understand those
questions for a moment let me

01:12:27.730 --> 01:12:32.810
talk about this listen to 20 40 I
have to work based on the army

01:12:32.810 --> 01:12:38.170
operating concept I work near mid
and long term and support an

01:12:38.170 --> 01:12:41.320
understand that so when you have
a current roh world operational

01:12:41.320 --> 01:12:45.330
problem right now in a week get
the call depending on what the

01:12:45.330 --> 01:12:49.095
subject is we get the call on the
white house on the way these

01:12:49.095 --> 01:12:52.533
landing there of us as we get the
call for syrian weapons de

01:12:52.537 --> 01:12:57.160
mille we get the call for anthrax
we get the call for libyan

01:12:57.280 --> 01:13:01.140
chemical weapons right and what
we do and how do we get after

01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:05.210
that we have to have a current roh
world ops issue we have the

01:13:05.210 --> 01:13:08.130
institutional processes we work
a trade awkward looking at 20

01:13:08.130 --> 01:13:11.760
40 were lookin' at 20 25 are lookin
at you know near mid and

01:13:11.760 --> 01:13:15.520
far so so don't think that we don't
have the capability to respond

01:13:15.810 --> 01:13:18.970
that's that innovation that's that
re purposing to make her roll

01:13:18.970 --> 01:13:23.438
world threats counter uys is a
prime example actor protection

01:13:23.466 --> 01:13:28.060
for are a heavy equipment or tanks
in europe is another thing

01:13:28.100 --> 01:13:31.610
we can't just stand by and not do
that silly thoughts were all

01:13:31.610 --> 01:13:34.920
those engineers come into play
to get after it and figure out

01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:39.040
how do we innovate and had we re
purpose existing equipment to

01:13:39.040 --> 01:13:42.130
get out and protect our soldiers
that's that's that's point one

01:13:42.570 --> 01:13:45.685
so eat you talk about out the joint
don't know p of an again

01:13:45.685 --> 01:13:49.550
a one emphasize that we have many
relationships with all the

01:13:49.550 --> 01:13:52.921
other services were sharing technology
whether it's sensors whether

01:13:52.921 --> 01:13:57.860
it's a portfolio lethality sensors
ground systems air systems

01:13:57.860 --> 01:14:02.594
where start where we're out working
hand in hand and and and

01:14:02.594 --> 01:14:06.160
my part of it is the technology
lane and howard inserts into

01:14:06.160 --> 01:14:08.958
the dock no creeper or construct
celled inserts into the journal

01:14:08.958 --> 01:14:12.532
mcmasters and and the work that's
going on at cac and other folks

01:14:12.532 --> 01:14:16.780
like that so how do we take that technology
bringing into a capability

01:14:17.090 --> 01:14:20.004
and then adam of unanswered or you
have one more questions her

01:14:20.110 --> 01:14:25.221
on them but I think those are the
result 31 or I may have answered

01:14:25.221 --> 01:14:30.636
them the murine ovary or have not
have closer one of every donor

01:14:31.954 --> 01:14:36.140
time it was the hockey a lever guardian
dot html p f activities

01:14:36.140 --> 01:14:40.103
to empower people and involved with
the human to human the idea

01:14:40.109 --> 01:14:43.671
it's all about the human domain
I mean it's about the human and

01:14:43.671 --> 01:14:46.732
we're not gonna build technology
to the hip and mina the ill

01:14:46.744 --> 01:14:48.900
the human to the technology around
militant knowledge into the

01:14:48.900 --> 01:14:52.570
human in a we still have the best
trained in a quick army in

01:14:52.570 --> 01:14:56.100
the world and works cannot continue
to have the best trained

01:14:56.100 --> 01:14:59.420
and equipped army in the world and
whether we're looking at the

01:14:59.420 --> 01:15:02.760
work or dome was so calm on the
tail of suit whether it's the

01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.060
work or dewan on iron man as you
may do it whether it's manned

01:15:06.060 --> 01:15:09.630
unmanned teaming once all tonal
systems were working on that

01:15:09.630 --> 01:15:12.620
but we gotta bring it back into
an operating we have to bring

01:15:12.620 --> 01:15:17.600
it back into had we employ that
an adult male p f construct in

01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:22.220
a joint partnership world album
and now dance with. Them

01:15:27.464 --> 01:15:32.585
doc so we. Talked

01:15:35.766 --> 01:15:42.692
doc. Doc

01:15:45.430 --> 01:15:49.712
yes barton. Springs

01:15:53.201 --> 01:16:00.731
doc and indeed the

01:16:02.140 --> 01:16:03.610
in it in the other for their. Question

01:16:05.898 --> 01:16:08.770
was how the speed of the acquisition
process an unlimited talk

01:16:09.100 --> 01:16:11.818
just one line around it hears the
research development work on

01:16:11.818 --> 01:16:15.534
a demonstrable prototype were handed
over the fenced to a pmp

01:16:15.539 --> 01:16:19.170
yelled to them field so what you're
seeing now is the chief is

01:16:19.170 --> 01:16:23.690
making you know that a rocket commander
focused a rock and it's

01:16:23.690 --> 01:16:27.470
not just amongst the staff so you're
hearing and what you're

01:16:27.470 --> 01:16:31.200
seeing in the building now is getting
after a lot of those mechanisms

01:16:31.200 --> 01:16:34.059
that have been slowing it down
there's a deal d component to

01:16:34.059 --> 01:16:38.540
that a joint component in the deity
5000 but internally within

01:16:38.540 --> 01:16:41.040
the army there is a lot of process
and procedures we have to

01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:45.300
fix and make better and to speed
up that process and that's song

01:16:45.300 --> 01:16:45.866
going out

01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.601
but we've got several questions
and only five minutes on the

01:16:50.601 --> 01:16:55.299
take one it was said that sent both
to admiral montgomery entered

01:16:55.300 --> 01:16:59.930
john mcmaster it has to do with
the comparing our approaches

01:16:59.930 --> 01:17:04.970
to art some of our low tech enemies
first bar the question is

01:17:04.970 --> 01:17:09.769
said to john mcmaster are we ballin
developing all of our capabilities

01:17:09.769 --> 01:17:13.770
are costing or sells out in overspending
especially role to the

01:17:13.770 --> 01:17:17.270
low cost enemies to then second
in current operations how do

01:17:17.270 --> 01:17:21.820
you how do you balance our reaction
time in the forces that we

01:17:21.820 --> 01:17:28.425
use in order to not develop at
least some long tech solutions

01:17:28.430 --> 01:17:30.541
to low tech proposal by gash

01:17:31.841 --> 01:17:35.406
and the montgomery started in a
jar and then you can close them

01:17:35.406 --> 01:17:36.918
with the stun gun

01:17:38.487 --> 01:17:41.850
versus thanks for sites and the reaction
partners answering that

01:17:41.899 --> 01:17:45.924
you know the a in the I argue the
previous surfers lay inside

01:17:45.925 --> 01:17:49.680
the joint staff the most important
thing we can do is be forward

01:17:50.050 --> 01:17:53.040
in the kind of with a con adversaries
angus is true in europe

01:17:53.040 --> 01:17:56.522
and in the pacific began a fight
with what you haven't you're

01:17:56.525 --> 01:18:00.973
on the ground in 96 hours in bli
only the air force it was god

01:18:01.256 --> 01:18:05.791
that little bear latitude about
conus based forces being non

01:18:05.792 --> 01:18:10.120
relevant in a 96 hour conflict
I i'd known in obviously some

01:18:10.120 --> 01:18:13.846
socks some saw forces the reality
is if we're gonna fight it

01:18:13.847 --> 01:18:17.500
for good or react quickly I to whatever
the threat is it's gonna

01:18:17.500 --> 01:18:20.740
be based on what we have ford stationed
saw given example the

01:18:20.740 --> 01:18:26.110
navy keeps about 10% of its forces
for a station in the pacific

01:18:26.110 --> 01:18:30.638
and about the 4% ford stationed in
europe so that it has organized

01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:34.700
have gone on game day and I think
I that I you know it's kind

01:18:34.700 --> 01:18:38.180
of a joke we have inside pakenham
but you know we don't think

01:18:38.180 --> 01:18:41.010
anymore there we don't have a surgeon
to give us a call and say

01:18:41.010 --> 01:18:44.090
hey could you mean is on a street
corner in six months and see

01:18:44.090 --> 01:18:47.860
what happens if we were fortunate
to a three times in a row now

01:18:48.179 --> 01:18:51.990
have someone do that we can we can
predict the timing tempo as

01:18:51.990 --> 01:18:54.690
knockin happening there for what
you have for stations critical

01:18:54.910 --> 01:18:58.062
I think for the army this is very
hard to get the bat a warrior

01:18:58.076 --> 01:19:01.129
the navy has a a bit more inherent
maneuver built in its forces

01:19:01.129 --> 01:19:03.740
in the air force has a lot more
inherent maneuver built in his

01:19:03.740 --> 01:19:07.390
forces of the army second about
what you wanna have ford what

01:19:07.390 --> 01:19:11.935
critical capabilities do you need
right away and die and that's

01:19:11.936 --> 01:19:15.367
sensible work on and then there is
for all of us as the challenge

01:19:15.367 --> 01:19:18.860
of the hill everyone a move something
it's very hard the navy

01:19:18.860 --> 01:19:22.350
has as an advantage air force to
a lesser degree as the same

01:19:22.350 --> 01:19:26.128
advantage of arm in the navy we
have a lot of ships in one home

01:19:26.128 --> 01:19:30.810
port you move one ship you don't
get to senators vowing to hold

01:19:30.810 --> 01:19:34.720
up all three and four star nominees
idea that night the army

01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:39.120
suffers a little more from when they
try to move up italian brig

01:19:39.120 --> 01:19:42.500
and within that contract to my point
on this is it what you have

01:19:42.500 --> 01:19:46.820
fort station and so when it comes
to reaction it to expel side

01:19:46.820 --> 01:19:49.280
of the air force I think the race
was a good and wanting out

01:19:49.317 --> 01:19:52.490
added I cannot tell you how many
number one priorities I hear

01:19:52.770 --> 01:19:56.159
for the first thing to get shipped
it when there's a time point

01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:59.404
when you've gone past a hundred
is no longer number one for I

01:19:59.404 --> 01:20:02.840
already and so are notes that for
me it's really critical that

01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.750
we have the right equipment and
the and people forward at on

01:20:06.750 --> 01:20:12.331
day one at least by our 96 anna
ajar mcmaster turned back over

01:20:12.331 --> 01:20:16.647
to you re organic first all just
on the on the purported for

01:20:16.658 --> 01:20:19.963
position forces a rethink the laws
of physics just top flight

01:20:19.967 --> 01:20:23.240
warfare it also I think we made some
bus from flawed assumptions

01:20:23.480 --> 01:20:26.055
in the nineties in particular that
they're really effective in

01:20:26.094 --> 01:20:29.573
some of our our defense treasures
in later years of the is it

01:20:29.573 --> 01:20:32.821
really good time to reassess especially
your sins will be seen

01:20:32.821 --> 01:20:37.080
in the last couple of years in terms
of a reaction we we depend

01:20:37.080 --> 01:20:39.730
on our air force and maybe I mean
there is the other the the

01:20:39.730 --> 01:20:43.365
army should be a huge advocate
for air force and in maritime

01:20:43.365 --> 01:20:46.351
and naval capabilities because we
recognize the connecticut to

01:20:46.360 --> 01:20:49.850
the fight without the navy and the
air force on all the question

01:20:49.850 --> 01:20:55.540
about the about cost and ando considering
low tech no enemy a

01:20:55.540 --> 01:21:00.460
reactions or capabilities out I
think we are shattering that

01:21:00.600 --> 01:21:05.630
based on our realistic wargames in
experimentation and army were

01:21:05.630 --> 01:21:08.900
fighting assessment we go against
making enemies were looking

01:21:08.900 --> 01:21:12.298
in our in our scenarios for temperament
taishin wargaming and

01:21:12.299 --> 01:21:15.690
real problems in real project graphic
errors against real enemies

01:21:16.014 --> 01:21:19.111
and were taking into consideration
enemy counter measures to

01:21:19.111 --> 01:21:22.340
limit the effect is of a high tech
capabilities and what we're

01:21:22.340 --> 01:21:28.188
seeing now is a is indeed to win
in close combat and area that

01:21:28.188 --> 01:21:31.966
we can not neglect because our enemy
through traditional countermeasures

01:21:32.070 --> 01:21:35.710
dispersion concealment in army was
of a populations and deception

01:21:36.331 --> 01:21:38.840
an enemy that will now possessed
more destructive weapons with

01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:44.530
longer range will often be in urban
areas will require us to

01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.730
to develop situational understanding
conduct reconnaissance in

01:21:48.730 --> 01:21:53.205
close contact with an enemy civilian
populations and then be

01:21:53.259 --> 01:21:56.400
able to defeat that enemy in close
combat and then by the way

01:21:56.720 --> 01:22:00.862
control the terrain to deny its use
to the enemy or to consolidate

01:22:00.862 --> 01:22:04.260
gains to get the political outcomes
reaction time is important

01:22:05.470 --> 01:22:10.230
but how much would it mattered if
we got to afghanistan a couple

01:22:10.230 --> 01:22:14.340
weeks earlier or we got to a rack
a couple weeks earlier we got

01:22:14.340 --> 01:22:18.490
to libya pretty fast look at it
now so that we have to consider

01:22:18.490 --> 01:22:22.580
is you need land forces to consolidate
gains to get the sustainable

01:22:22.580 --> 01:22:26.340
outcomes consistent with your interests
in terms of low cost

01:22:26.790 --> 01:22:31.220
its low cost and I think also simplicity
we've created exquisite

01:22:31.220 --> 01:22:35.950
systems that not just cost too much
but are so complex that they

01:22:35.950 --> 01:22:40.403
could feel catastrophic or even
without the enemy now the soul

01:22:40.722 --> 01:22:44.440
in the areas where we have to drive
costs down and simplify I

01:22:44.440 --> 01:22:49.428
was a put a priority on networking
communications first was art

01:22:49.429 --> 01:22:53.493
or the first partisan to simplify
but then a tragic most combat

01:22:53.494 --> 01:22:56.407
initiative the john brown started
at the maneuver center we're

01:22:56.420 --> 01:23:01.070
following up on which a squad foundation
of decisive force and

01:23:01.070 --> 01:23:04.310
what we don't what we want we don't
want any fair fights sword

01:23:04.310 --> 01:23:07.500
developing central great technologies
now the wall that was in

01:23:07.500 --> 01:23:11.570
close combat in a counter actions
with the enemy to be able to

01:23:11.570 --> 01:23:16.169
defeat that enemy his combat with
better optics better ability

01:23:16.180 --> 01:23:20.040
for target location and bring in
a direct fires better better

01:23:20.080 --> 01:23:25.750
firepower within the squad lightening
the load but most importantly

01:23:26.240 --> 01:23:30.690
training or soldiers advance training
advanced cognition building

01:23:30.690 --> 01:23:36.120
cohesive resilient teams that can
identify and act on opportunities

01:23:36.380 --> 01:23:40.170
they can defeat that enemy close
combat and can also operate

01:23:40.170 --> 01:23:44.529
effectively intimate populations
so uh I think that I think that

01:23:44.529 --> 01:23:47.810
we have to drive costs down with
the simplified systems but I

01:23:47.810 --> 01:23:51.230
think we also have to recognize
that because of those low tech

01:23:52.176 --> 01:23:56.320
is low tech um responses to what
our capabilities we have to

01:23:56.320 --> 01:24:00.050
be prepared to fight and win a close
combat we talk a lot about

01:24:00.050 --> 01:24:03.600
long range capability which is important
but every time we say

01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:06.770
that we are also talk about
close combat over match

01:24:08.750 --> 01:24:13.141
so thank you of taking it to the
panel for your remarks here

01:24:13.150 --> 01:24:16.160
forthrightness in answering the questions
there are two questions

01:24:16.160 --> 01:24:20.810
that I didn't get to I apologize
and you know who you are and

01:24:20.810 --> 01:24:24.620
I know the questions were allowed
or targeted it one member of

01:24:24.620 --> 01:24:28.080
the panel and I was stayed at member
the panels not going anywhere

01:24:28.080 --> 01:24:32.106
our shoulders a long hallway here
the ambushing get you answer

01:24:32.113 --> 01:24:37.740
your question before he leaves dia
holy and he's wearing white

01:24:37.991 --> 01:24:41.290
yet not so much

01:24:43.102 --> 01:24:44.562
bill thank you very much to. Tell

01:25:00.083 --> 01:25:04.740
doc. Doc

01:25:07.605 --> 01:25:11.877
history include

01:25:13.136 --> 01:25:18.970
doc okay gang the ira kutler
cranes swear I am

01:25:20.300 --> 01:25:24.090
that tape is a tape right
there on that. Machine

01:25:26.070 --> 01:25:27.950
the tail end of this tape

01:25:29.260 --> 01:25:33.850
not be it's worth it's gonna be
worth watching where they work

01:25:34.050 --> 01:25:38.799
where they were going back and forth
on the role of joint nests

01:25:39.721 --> 01:25:43.900
joining us I regret that the
air force wasn't here

01:25:45.351 --> 01:25:48.480
that it may be somebody in the room
here from the air force but

01:25:48.939 --> 01:25:54.600
appealed i've been doing this stuff
for about 25 years listening

01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.650
to panels made up of talented people

01:25:58.873 --> 01:26:00.008
very solemn

01:26:01.390 --> 01:26:07.569
do I get the depth given take on
a very important subject joining

01:26:07.754 --> 01:26:11.980
us it's only by joining us that
we're gonna get all of this put

01:26:11.981 --> 01:26:17.490
together and it's really complicated
because we're now seeing

01:26:18.470 --> 01:26:23.534
isis in kosovo crisis in. Kosovo

01:26:26.720 --> 01:26:29.110
I don't know the technology
is gonna do it

01:26:31.010 --> 01:26:35.150
I don't know what's gonna save
us from all of this stuff but

01:26:35.310 --> 01:26:38.449
what you heard there is sure a. Start

01:26:40.500 --> 01:26:45.880
um and I meant when I said about
the constraints of lawyers on

01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:49.750
ideas we have to break out of that

01:26:51.430 --> 01:26:57.310
my last word is an italia since the
end of the cold war the grand

01:26:57.310 --> 01:27:03.720
strategy of the united states has
been to save money take money

01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:04.924
from the. French

01:27:07.464 --> 01:27:10.570
gonna pay a price for that
take it to the bank

01:27:12.430 --> 01:27:18.150
okay gang now there rosa what about
one of my doing here or we

01:27:18.150 --> 01:27:19.000
get a reception

01:27:20.414 --> 01:27:23.369
if anybody need to stipulate
the next. Door

01:27:26.050 --> 01:27:29.255
I don't know how step it's gonna
be achieved gonna be coca cola

01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:34.930
rose anyway erica thanks a lot to
all of your thanks for those

01:27:34.930 --> 01:27:40.020
of you who might not be here tomorrow
who for one reason rather

01:27:40.020 --> 01:27:45.190
other duties and the I hope you got
something out of this I know

01:27:45.190 --> 01:27:49.450
I did i'm not sure what i'm gonna
do what the fuck thanks a. Lot.