WEBVTT 00:15.650 --> 00:20.680 He no I do not has of the and opener today that was my open. 00:21.860 --> 00:24.550 So we Fiji's that we get right to wear request. 00:25.970 --> 00:26.450 One does. 00:26.990 --> 00:31.060 A the I'm used to. Correct that the Um. 00:31.580 --> 00:35.930 Us master to turkey has been summoned by the turkish foreign 00:35.930 --> 00:39.100 ministry what with the circumstances and what is your Q1 they're 00:39.510 --> 00:42.710 called that's why I can confirm that the ambassador bass to meet 00:42.710 --> 00:43.930 with the uh. 00:44.620 --> 00:48.340 A senior turkish officials so today zhu no we don't talk about 00:48.340 --> 00:52.350 the the details or specifics of our diplomatic pick conversations 00:52.380 --> 00:55.930 that the policy there's plenty to talk about the given. 00:56.430 --> 01:00.670 Um the complexity of the fight against a ins IO and in syria. 01:01.190 --> 01:04.090 Um so yes there was a conversation today but I wouldn't go in 01:04.090 --> 01:07.630 a more detail the vinegar. Let's run on this you do stick you or. 01:08.160 --> 01:11.950 Previously expressed fear that BYD's monitors group in the especially 01:11.980 --> 01:12.700 us curbing. 01:13.280 --> 01:17.040 It that's correct officials about the the are our policy me on 01:17.040 --> 01:21.580 the however we do the consider the peak a cave form terrorist 01:21.580 --> 01:23.140 organization and continue to. 01:23.690 --> 01:27.600 Them to be very firm about a art is I receive their terrorist 01:27.600 --> 01:30.550 attacks on turkish citizens a cease. 01:31.360 --> 01:32.960 We'll see what can. 01:33.680 --> 01:38.960 A joke foreign minister being the best as stated that as time Kate. 01:39.620 --> 01:43.200 Preside did all the that can months. So weiss president Biden. 01:44.480 --> 01:47.500 During his recent visit about the july de. 01:48.090 --> 01:50.420 And all the peelite the these. 01:51.010 --> 01:53.920 If leaked into the could pay the peak AKA. 01:54.500 --> 01:56.340 Widget corn farmer that you've seen. 01:56.900 --> 01:57.770 In it that promotes. 01:58.270 --> 01:58.860 If you have. 01:59.380 --> 02:03.050 I have not yet I certainly can confirm reports that documents 02:03.050 --> 02:05.300 from doing to the vice president you get stuck to the white house 02:05.300 --> 02:05.640 about that. 02:06.840 --> 02:11.440 Again for me to sit teenage and Said that to go. 02:13.370 --> 02:21.460 He is not easy pay to seek aid pete. Why de am to op ed is cool 02:21.500 --> 02:25.850 about knows. I am the cloak of raising. As the it in in for their 02:25.850 --> 02:30.040 comments made these comments came just yesterday it today. 02:31.030 --> 02:32.440 It what was it common. 02:33.080 --> 02:36.560 Uh no foreign minister coach floating assists ace. The is a procession 02:36.560 --> 02:37.430 P wide beat. 02:38.070 --> 02:39.210 Hey it wouldn't that be. 02:40.180 --> 02:44.830 It we approach the P right. I'm starved central that we approached 02:44.880 --> 02:47.360 you are what will be the one he is what. 02:47.930 --> 02:51.660 Related. O'clock I uneasiness gowns man. 02:52.400 --> 02:56.680 And all I'm gonna say is what I say. Yeah should um that we continue 02:56.680 --> 02:59.590 to have power stations in turkey about the about their concerns 03:00.050 --> 03:03.970 we understand those concerns. We appreciate these systems and 03:03.970 --> 03:07.460 uh the turkey continues to provide and the contributions that 03:07.460 --> 03:10.260 they continue to make him in the coalition against dash. 03:10.880 --> 03:13.430 Um and we're gonna continue to have these discussions and look 03:13.430 --> 03:17.190 for ways that we can to improve our partnership that we turkey 03:17.220 --> 03:21.680 and to a as a coalition intensify our efforts against the I'm 03:21.680 --> 03:24.930 not gonna respond to every comment that's may certainly comments 03:24.930 --> 03:28.450 and I have seen the stew will pose seen a seeding quote dish 03:28.450 --> 03:34.190 for soas as Crow seeing paid to listen. That folk from the Sri 03:34.370 --> 03:38.740 fishing and to lessen our post the that no meant the men men 03:38.740 --> 03:42.050 beach a real hot I'm not gonna speak to specific operational 03:42.050 --> 03:45.860 matters and I think you know I won't do that do on at every a 03:45.890 --> 03:48.830 everybody's contributing in the fight against Ashi a. 03:49.490 --> 03:53.760 Um. Uh has a role player sometimes naval supply and we're gonna 03:53.760 --> 03:58.880 conji had discussions with everybody a about how we can all put 03:59.140 --> 04:03.680 the proper amount of intensified pressure on this crew um but 04:03.680 --> 04:05.310 how that manifests itself a. 04:05.900 --> 04:07.200 The wouldn't be. 04:07.880 --> 04:11.400 Wise for me to talk about a publicly from the podium and began 04:11.400 --> 04:14.470 work if you're talking about the on military issues that that 04:14.760 --> 04:18.650 the pope he comes from this podium is the city of forces suppose applied. 04:18.650 --> 04:23.120 That's a a machine that risha moped singing. So that it spent 04:23.180 --> 04:27.640 only look then log in syria editing dead. They us up quote. 04:27.640 --> 04:29.190 That's the rebels. 04:29.750 --> 04:31.220 On the ground in clothing. 04:31.730 --> 04:35.890 A a us allied charges. So quote teach rebels' owned the grunts 04:35.930 --> 04:41.010 they'd be in the bottom of the date does it look us up the kirk 04:41.490 --> 04:46.700 and I'm relying reliable the main comes to supporting its allies 04:46.700 --> 04:47.400 on the grounds. 04:48.650 --> 04:52.290 Do it do any good graces. Look weaker because the russians to 04:52.290 --> 04:56.870 Geneva bonn medicines to the same opposition groups that no I 04:56.870 --> 05:00.640 don't quite frankly. I'm and this is an oboe. 05:01.200 --> 05:04.170 In each case. Not about the reputation. 05:04.850 --> 05:07.580 It's never been about that he can't be about that has to be about 05:07.580 --> 05:08.380 the Syrian people. 05:09.140 --> 05:11.830 I'm in about finding ways to stop the suffering. 05:12.380 --> 05:16.400 I'm finding ways to stop the flow of refugees out of the country. 05:16.700 --> 05:20.840 So that they can stay home have long home and that's why the 05:20.840 --> 05:24.580 working so hard here to stay department on that diplomatic track 05:24.580 --> 05:28.260 here to trying to find a political solution to the conflict in 05:28.260 --> 05:31.720 syria the United States has been a leader in that effort as we 05:31.720 --> 05:36.050 have been the leader in the military effort against dash us us 05:36.050 --> 05:38.600 is led that coalition now 66 nations. 05:39.110 --> 05:42.180 Um and we're leader in the political process to in terms of trying 05:42.180 --> 05:46.030 to find a diplomatic solution. This isn't about reputation or engage. 05:46.610 --> 05:48.790 In the moment it starts to be combat. 05:49.370 --> 05:52.740 Uh then you start to lose focus on what really matters and you 05:52.740 --> 05:56.470 say yourself up for failure. What secretary kerry is focused 05:56.470 --> 06:01.230 on very very hard is about trying to get to a political solution 06:01.340 --> 06:05.210 and key above all others understands how hard that to canopy 06:05.520 --> 06:09.060 I how complicated that that this is and that's why in today's 06:09.380 --> 06:12.410 we're gonna actually tomorrow were flying to Munich for meeting 06:12.410 --> 06:14.180 on Thursday with the eye esa's gee. 06:14.750 --> 06:18.180 Um that to try to to try to sell some of the story problems the 06:18.180 --> 06:20.960 good of the solution that matters for the Syrian people. 06:21.590 --> 06:26.000 Right. The hopefuls associations a Fiji's art that will will 06:26.000 --> 06:29.040 be we need to a key then McConnell to death in. 06:29.870 --> 06:33.390 Impulsive getting good astonishing. Good golfers home and will 06:33.390 --> 06:37.100 border with CD optical that the seafood you know this again yesterday 06:37.300 --> 06:40.310 the my answer is gonna be the same today is a was yesterday is 06:40.310 --> 06:44.540 a wasn't days past that that there continue to be discussions 06:44.540 --> 06:48.190 about all manner different options and um that shows that we 06:48.190 --> 06:50.940 can take to try to improve the condition on the ground for the 06:51.050 --> 06:53.240 for decree for the Syrian people. 06:53.830 --> 06:57.580 And um we have hand and we will continue to have discussions 06:57.610 --> 07:00.090 inside the quotation it inside this government about. 07:00.600 --> 07:04.690 Um no fly zones buffer zone say sums calman every Wall but there's 07:04.690 --> 07:08.690 been no decision to eight to pour wine place. Right now has had 07:08.690 --> 07:12.180 a commander in chief and leaders the Pentagon have pointed out 07:12.180 --> 07:15.470 that doing. So is its resource intensive and there are some issues 07:15.470 --> 07:19.850 that need to be completely borrowing a very good doctor before 07:19.850 --> 07:22.610 you can implement something like that but there's been no season. 07:22.610 --> 07:24.720 If you like in its 50 decision the 07:26.250 --> 07:29.610 We continue that discussions about this a your question pre suppose 07:29.610 --> 07:32.640 is that we're riding is some sort of decision point about assaf 07:32.640 --> 07:35.940 vacation is all mobile you know nobody some of them. 07:36.540 --> 07:39.770 The pelton thinking nobody's disputing that nobody stating that 07:39.770 --> 07:43.160 what I'm saying is that there hasn't been the decision that that 07:43.550 --> 07:47.360 leads us to believe that that over a zone of some kind is the 07:47.360 --> 07:47.890 right answer. 07:48.780 --> 07:51.550 I'm nobody's disputing that the situation is getting worse. 07:51.880 --> 07:55.060 It would be a lot less worse. If the russians were continuing 07:55.060 --> 07:58.840 to bomb opposition troops and civilians and civilian infrastructure 07:59.300 --> 08:02.610 have that would be a bank help to try to alleviate this problem 08:02.610 --> 08:05.990 along the border. That's a real meeting neck it up and a ceasefire 08:05.990 --> 08:09.050 would do wonders to help alleviate that can sour. 08:09.580 --> 08:13.100 Um. As for buffer zones. Yes we continue to talk about that but 08:13.100 --> 08:15.910 your question presuppose is that we're it advancing to some of 08:15.960 --> 08:19.180 the decision point out that and and I just don't see that right 08:19.180 --> 08:23.600 now on the horizon bear there continue to be a again consideration 08:23.600 --> 08:26.790 of all kinds of options here. But the one that needs to happen 08:27.240 --> 08:32.340 first and foremost is a seaside in the poses a liz cheney that 08:32.340 --> 08:34.750 you'll use said the two locals of the importance of because of 08:34.750 --> 08:35.070 the in. 08:35.610 --> 08:39.800 Different option weekends we will always consider all the fractions 08:39.800 --> 08:43.810 any nobody wants to rule anything in around here and I'm that 08:43.930 --> 08:46.970 I can tell you get these these to take an ideas have been discussed 08:47.340 --> 08:51.050 um and There had been no decisions to implement them. 08:51.620 --> 08:54.490 Therefore you can say that they're been is is is not to implement 08:54.490 --> 08:56.920 them and therefore that's a decision but it doesn't mean the 08:56.920 --> 08:59.560 beach that the idea shut down forever doesn't mean that there 08:59.560 --> 09:01.480 will still be consideration of it that well. 09:02.150 --> 09:06.400 Um but What the secretary firmly believes is the that the best 09:06.400 --> 09:10.270 way to alleviate that suffering and the for refugees is a cease fire. 09:10.790 --> 09:14.860 A little you can carefully betting this and not making a decision 09:14.860 --> 09:17.950 about it for that they're part of five years of situations go 09:18.030 --> 09:20.760 home from you know for run this to even more Caracas. 09:21.590 --> 09:25.770 Um so it and it is a tiny keeps a meager duck-egg ever made an 09:25.770 --> 09:29.230 incision you're not a big decision point that why not. 09:30.010 --> 09:33.000 I mean I don't know if you've been seeing what's people we've 09:33.000 --> 09:35.510 been writing they're saying over. The course of the past couple 09:35.510 --> 09:36.910 of days. But there comes a really. 09:37.570 --> 09:42.160 The elite devastating all despite foreign policy experts and 09:42.240 --> 09:47.160 former officials in this administration about a lack of coherent 09:47.290 --> 09:50.780 policy here. I mean the latest one today says that good that 09:50.780 --> 09:53.980 the you was paul see as well as the rest of the west is morally 09:53.980 --> 09:57.020 bankrupt and that a leaped low is the new straight renewed search 09:57.020 --> 10:00.870 surrey of. Yeah I study responded to me why our shoe at decision. 10:01.500 --> 10:05.500 We have to her. The week we are at decision points that matte 10:05.500 --> 10:08.750 wedded decision play on and in terms of trying to get to a ceasefire 10:09.070 --> 10:11.100 with certainly at a decision point where we need to get that 10:11.100 --> 10:14.000 humanitarian access a to people that are in me that's why we're 10:14.000 --> 10:18.240 going to Munich tamale um that we were decision point in december. 10:18.930 --> 10:21.070 When the un security council. 10:21.570 --> 10:25.010 Passed a resolution 20 to 54 which quote of but that the enough 10:25.010 --> 10:28.980 huge prices and marian dated that cease fire and may invaded 10:28.980 --> 10:32.300 that humanitarian access would still hasn't occurred your question 10:32.450 --> 10:35.930 pre suppose is the idea of that as an essay so a buffer zone 10:35.930 --> 10:40.210 no-fly zone is the engine is the right answer. I can assure you 10:40.210 --> 10:43.420 that we have looked at it from all different sides across Sierra 10:43.420 --> 10:47.870 agency and that if it was believed to be the anti joke that some 10:47.870 --> 10:51.050 say it is up we probably would've executed by now. 10:51.570 --> 10:55.940 But there are legitimate concerns about that alternate effectiveness 10:55.940 --> 10:59.570 of those kinds of of zones now that doesn't mean any and some 10:59.570 --> 11:03.330 adoration going 40 could still be considered a a viable option. 11:03.330 --> 11:06.340 I'm not ruling anything in or out today. I'm just saying that 11:06.620 --> 11:09.830 we have looked at it very very hard very very stringently and 11:09.830 --> 11:13.890 have decided thus far that he isn't the evident that some say 11:13.890 --> 11:16.470 it would be what is clearly. 11:16.990 --> 11:20.480 Is a is that a cease fire that when no one nobody be unbearable 11:20.550 --> 11:22.750 right that that requires the cooperation. 11:23.770 --> 11:25.280 Of countries who. 11:25.930 --> 11:30.030 Gold to what they will to cooperate this that group the other 11:30.060 --> 11:33.980 the discarded auction was when you say there's been decided against 11:34.260 --> 11:35.580 is something that could be garden. 11:36.590 --> 11:39.930 But if with difficult people unilaterally if it would be something 11:39.930 --> 11:44.050 we pick produce and that production that than pushing for this 11:44.050 --> 11:45.570 for four years. 11:46.120 --> 11:46.720 Could do. 11:47.310 --> 11:51.070 A a just by your cells in berlin impressions of well tomato if 11:51.070 --> 11:53.190 NATO assistance you or solution. 11:54.470 --> 11:58.020 What are your pushing a ceasefire the brain carrion AIG requires. 11:58.650 --> 12:01.200 The agreement of russia which you're not you haven't gone. 12:01.200 --> 12:04.680 So far iran which it had a doctor even though they they sign 12:04.680 --> 12:07.180 on to the principle of it of what's happening on the ground be 12:07.180 --> 12:10.850 wise they're interested with a and the assad regime itself. 12:11.290 --> 12:13.660 Well I think that questions about whether this is because the 12:13.700 --> 12:16.440 the rebels and dripping fat for the person was sadie's a really 12:16.440 --> 12:17.730 interesting should okay. 12:18.440 --> 12:21.590 Alive they're not one question but I think I know what you trying 12:21.590 --> 12:22.220 to drive that. 12:23.030 --> 12:26.140 First all the hasn't been discarded as an ideas a city continues 12:26.140 --> 12:29.090 to be an option that we continue to start discussing the and 12:29.090 --> 12:30.590 to think about two it's not to score. 12:31.340 --> 12:34.610 There's been no decision as of yet to implement it because there's 12:34.610 --> 12:39.660 been a lot of careful study this and I mean deep steady about 12:39.760 --> 12:42.860 the kinds a resources an intense effort that would be required 12:42.860 --> 12:46.780 to do debt over a sustained period of time and there's it and 12:46.820 --> 12:50.030 we haven't come to a conclusion that it is the edit that some 12:50.030 --> 12:53.340 say this was not the discarded number two you set your solution 12:53.340 --> 12:56.050 is not the not to say solution is the international community 12:56.050 --> 12:58.670 solution to this to the situation in syria. 12:59.210 --> 13:02.710 Signed up to into cumin case and the un security council resolution. 13:02.710 --> 13:05.480 That's not as the United States the were position. That's the 13:05.480 --> 13:08.740 international community you and position and we believe it's 13:08.740 --> 13:12.350 important to keep working through the international community 13:12.380 --> 13:13.950 to try to get at a solution. 13:14.810 --> 13:18.300 Um and what we said is we want everybody who signed up to that 13:18.660 --> 13:21.090 to include russia to me all we want them to do is meet their 13:21.090 --> 13:24.920 own connects that I'm an agency that unilateral so take in the 13:24.920 --> 13:29.040 United States military enforcing. No fly zone by self ass whoopi 13:29.040 --> 13:33.740 can but not without cost around just mean dollars and and but 13:33.740 --> 13:37.480 not without risk and not and not necessarily the so far we've 13:37.480 --> 13:41.150 not been able to show that it would have the kind of effectiveness 13:41.520 --> 13:45.300 and out a and a sustainable way that some say it would be good. 13:45.500 --> 13:46.490 It doesn't mean that. 13:47.320 --> 13:49.250 It's been discarded or to off the table. 13:49.850 --> 13:53.150 And is saint thus far hasn't been viewed as the and it it doesn't 13:53.150 --> 13:56.120 seem as I mean communique is whether there are from the Geneva 13:56.150 --> 14:00.330 were be an hour. So mother a european city un resolutions from 14:00.330 --> 14:03.750 the you wear or elsewhere are just pieces of paper. 14:04.580 --> 14:07.940 They don't actually do anything on and you know on their own 14:07.980 --> 14:12.350 and particularly when people are unable or unwilling to fulfil 14:12.350 --> 14:14.680 the of with the commitments that that are a lot of them. 14:15.550 --> 14:19.740 So I go play to these what can the people who are complaining 14:19.740 --> 14:23.400 are criticizing the the of the policy what they see is a white 14:23.400 --> 14:24.460 lacked the rubble calls. 14:25.120 --> 14:28.400 This is that you haven't gotten pieces of paper that you could 14:28.400 --> 14:31.760 waited inside use and up to this russia you signed up to the 14:31.760 --> 14:35.790 us around the you have to follow through and it's not that this that. 14:36.440 --> 14:38.820 Nothing is actually being going on the ground. 14:39.520 --> 14:43.020 Not that that I again I would disagree two things first all pieces 14:43.020 --> 14:43.990 of paper do matter. 14:44.510 --> 14:46.890 I mean there's a little couple pieces of paper is a few blocks 14:46.890 --> 14:50.160 where the constitution declaration independence fan important 14:50.160 --> 14:53.680 pieces of paper cayenne matter these jimmy Kay's matter more 14:53.680 --> 14:57.280 importantly that un security council resolution matters because 14:57.280 --> 15:00.030 it isn't just about a piece of paper. It's about commitments 15:00.030 --> 15:03.590 that these countries have signed up to do and all we're asking 15:03.740 --> 15:04.600 is that they need. 15:05.330 --> 15:08.390 Their commitments I'm in if they would simply just meet their 15:08.390 --> 15:12.660 commitments and um then we wouldn't be dealing with with the 15:12.770 --> 15:15.450 whole complexity of the Prom that we have a saying it was on 15:15.450 --> 15:18.890 everything that certainly get is to a better a position and use 15:18.890 --> 15:21.510 it nothing's happening on the ground. I I I couldn't disagree 15:21.510 --> 15:25.000 more and also what's happened to the the pose about the full. 15:25.550 --> 15:29.270 Yes you wind up what that is why is it wise about the format. 15:30.310 --> 15:34.970 Uh so would say because of you us and western ian action. 15:35.470 --> 15:39.370 Or inability to do that they want to say because every gene continues 15:39.370 --> 15:42.590 to surrounding travel a sitting would support from russian aircraft 15:42.590 --> 15:45.330 and the as well I think that they would but the reason exact 15:45.330 --> 15:48.440 that's happening and zig-zag allegedly per se from because of 15:48.440 --> 15:52.020 the perception that you guys to store you meaning do when your allies. 15:52.550 --> 15:55.660 Aren't willing to do what's necessary to to study was conducted. 15:56.360 --> 15:57.090 It's necessary. 15:57.680 --> 16:00.720 Down the pieces of paper international that the history of valuable 16:00.720 --> 16:04.450 in means open because people actually acted on the aches that 16:04.450 --> 16:06.900 filler commitment couldn't agree more. So these commute. 16:07.430 --> 16:10.290 Solutions right now to be nothing because no one of them what 16:10.320 --> 16:13.680 we want them to and they need to and that is what you're exactly 16:13.680 --> 16:16.250 like that's what makes the constitution or declaration matter 16:16.280 --> 16:18.860 and that's why we want these documents to matter the same way 16:18.860 --> 16:21.350 for people to me dip moms couldn't agree more with the and a 16:21.530 --> 16:24.190 lot more it was all the allegations. 16:25.320 --> 16:29.080 That assemble me denominations uh. We it. We answered this every 16:29.170 --> 16:32.080 few days ago. I'm not gonna get and a hypothetical sear week we'll. 16:32.670 --> 16:35.520 Just handling the knowing that you're asking the what's gonna 16:35.520 --> 16:36.350 happen if. 16:36.880 --> 16:39.930 What's gonna happen. If ok so well he's a hypothetical one more 16:39.930 --> 16:43.700 time what happens if they don't yet more refugees you have more 16:43.700 --> 16:48.120 violence more what should have in syria falls further and further 16:48.150 --> 16:52.600 in the yeah in this debt spiral let's on that's what happens 16:52.830 --> 16:56.510 is there's no there's no other alternative out of it there's 16:56.510 --> 16:59.660 no there's not is indeed there's not gonna be a military solution 16:59.660 --> 17:02.680 to this conflict we set it time to get past. We sell politically 17:03.070 --> 17:06.560 and more importantly it has to be sell by Syrians. That's why 17:06.560 --> 17:09.800 this political process matters. So that it's not legislating 17:09.800 --> 17:14.010 from a third country or or from the west but actually decided 17:14.010 --> 17:16.740 by series. That's why those talks in Geneva more important. 17:16.740 --> 17:20.110 You don't understand that they pod that's why we wanna seen resume 17:20.110 --> 17:23.460 by the animal that has set its it just to continue to a place 17:23.840 --> 17:25.490 that the secretary just said today. 17:26.070 --> 17:29.130 That the russian actions on the ground. We're not creating the 17:29.130 --> 17:32.810 climate where the Syrians do what you're asking them to do which 17:32.810 --> 17:37.430 is this a negotiated the diseases in a of it and When you're saying. 17:38.170 --> 17:41.210 They'd like russian said me that is commitments. 17:41.810 --> 17:42.450 It's not. 17:42.980 --> 17:46.900 So the question is am will lead to it's not some hypothetical. 17:46.930 --> 17:49.330 It's what are the consequences for russia. 17:50.810 --> 17:54.250 For not if for not stopping the bombing for not doing anything 17:54.280 --> 17:59.420 are you going to commit to um what the secretary said that he's 17:59.420 --> 18:01.610 been tried to well on its change to cap. 18:02.150 --> 18:05.930 Changed addresses calculus and how do you do that and just asking 18:05.930 --> 18:10.100 them to stop insane you need to meet your commitments clearly 18:10.100 --> 18:11.270 is not doing the job. 18:11.870 --> 18:14.030 I would like them to meet their commitments was that we need 18:14.030 --> 18:17.500 to meet the opens I'd say consequences for russia on we talk 18:17.500 --> 18:21.920 about this they are the first of all they'll get dragged into 18:21.920 --> 18:25.810 a conflict that won't and which I don't think that anybody Gleeson 18:25.810 --> 18:29.150 be good for the russian people on the russian country and they 18:29.150 --> 18:32.230 will inspire the attraction of foreign fighters in jihadis not 18:32.230 --> 18:33.850 just not just to syria but even. 18:34.550 --> 18:37.320 The press in their own country which I don't think is in the 18:37.320 --> 18:40.610 interests the russian people on the russian government and I'm 18:40.950 --> 18:44.130 in when we continue to see them act as if they believe there 18:44.130 --> 18:46.980 is a military solution to this conflict when. 18:47.580 --> 18:50.790 Both communications surgery cast resolutions. Certainly our policy 18:50.790 --> 18:53.620 or the United States is there isn't one the minute the a military 18:53.620 --> 18:57.730 solution solution to the pot that but clearly these actions are 18:57.760 --> 19:02.520 aimed at changing the equation on the ground. So that that strengthens 19:02.520 --> 19:04.970 their have that the negotiate planets us or russians for the 19:04.970 --> 19:07.960 motivations about what exactly they're doing and clearly that 19:08.020 --> 19:11.700 the practical affect is it's bolstering you signed regime making 19:11.700 --> 19:14.000 it less likely for the regime to what. 19:14.540 --> 19:17.570 To sit down and discuss political solutions. The secretary of 19:17.610 --> 19:21.200 those said that quite clearly today um and it's really make it 19:21.200 --> 19:23.950 harder only making it harder on the opposition to represent the 19:23.950 --> 19:26.970 people that they're trying to represent a in those kinds of top 19:26.970 --> 19:31.170 so it is certainly without question. A prolonging the conflict 19:31.200 --> 19:34.310 and it's hard for us to imagine howl. 19:35.470 --> 19:38.330 The re shaking think that that's in their interest to have a 19:38.330 --> 19:42.810 conflict in syria pro law police that he that we have um we interviewed. 19:43.500 --> 19:46.770 Uh an adviser to us up with initial been. 19:47.450 --> 19:49.090 Who said that. 19:49.660 --> 19:52.260 The reduced there the whole too. 19:52.850 --> 19:56.910 Continued their offensive until they get to the turkish border. 19:57.440 --> 19:59.810 Uh do you have an a reaction to that. 20:00.410 --> 20:02.910 Consumers commons so I'm I'm 20:04.720 --> 20:06.620 As the los did to comment to it in. 20:07.160 --> 20:10.610 Them and when Ukraine's to this starts without having seen them 20:11.030 --> 20:13.540 and uh again what we wanna see is a political solution. 20:14.230 --> 20:17.530 No. The rooms is that the that thin. 20:18.230 --> 20:21.580 Spoke pulls a Conti and piece over the seated closest. 20:22.280 --> 20:26.390 Uh to limit and States. He added that the washington was studying 20:26.390 --> 20:26.990 a proposal. 20:27.990 --> 20:31.110 Can you say anything a multiple pulling that you see the complete 20:31.340 --> 20:36.240 than from about oceans of of the solution. I think a were outdated data. 20:36.240 --> 20:38.170 I can't say that the. The 20:40.410 --> 20:44.270 Certainly for michelle out Ross and and the russians are have. 20:45.070 --> 20:47.760 Uh as they participate in the process. 20:48.290 --> 20:51.930 Do show have by offering views um. 20:52.550 --> 20:53.570 May continue to do that. 20:54.410 --> 20:58.970 Um. And frankly that's why we're going to Munich to what. 20:59.680 --> 21:02.360 And to sit down with all the members of the international siri 21:02.360 --> 21:04.310 support group and talk about. 21:05.210 --> 21:10.090 Proposals plans perspective is where you I calm for trying to 21:10.090 --> 21:13.690 get it too big things a cease fire and the delivery of humanitarian 21:13.690 --> 21:16.220 assistance and aid we're it's most needed and so. 21:16.730 --> 21:21.180 Uh. Without getting into specifics of what the foreign minister 21:21.270 --> 21:24.180 believes you send fall work to the United States. What I can 21:24.180 --> 21:27.330 tell you is we're very much looking forward to having these meetings 21:27.360 --> 21:32.820 in in Munich a into that and to hearing a a whenever proposals 21:32.820 --> 21:36.420 the russians might have to get in a political solution as we 21:36.420 --> 21:39.500 are willing and interested in hearing the proposals plans are 21:39.500 --> 21:42.590 perspectives of every other member of the national sears for 21:42.680 --> 21:47.060 lastly secretary said that I'm he has an indications from the 21:47.060 --> 21:48.770 russians that they were prepared. 21:49.300 --> 21:51.140 To accept a cease fires this. 21:51.950 --> 21:55.250 Is is on the way this visited zealot they you know for missile 21:55.250 --> 21:58.560 out rough. You speak to the whatever always models will might 21:58.630 --> 22:02.100 be a specific set that the secretary seem to think that he had 22:02.100 --> 22:04.770 an understanding for the russians about the way forward and we're 22:04.770 --> 22:08.710 just asking at that understanding is based on some proposals. 22:09.290 --> 22:12.840 Um without getting into specifics that the foreign ministers. 22:12.840 --> 22:16.060 Certainly is his understanding at that at the time that he said 22:16.060 --> 22:19.730 it was based on conversations did he had would form still modify 22:19.730 --> 22:23.320 wussies angry. Why do I ask you for like bullet points of the 22:23.730 --> 22:28.070 I get purple. I mean I know you're not gonna get into a so light. 22:28.890 --> 22:32.700 We're just asking whether the russians have submitted a proposal 22:32.700 --> 22:35.770 or a pink are something for consideration one of the have offered 22:35.770 --> 22:39.420 throughout this process. Many views and sometimes in writing 22:39.420 --> 22:43.480 sometimes not and I'm simply not gonna. I'm layout what another 22:43.480 --> 22:47.490 nation state is propose tansania layout that have they have a 22:47.490 --> 22:50.420 offered ideas about moving forward Nestle Hanna. 22:50.960 --> 22:54.010 I'm not that is the to this specific proposal that for mr. 22:54.010 --> 22:55.900 Lau froth is dressing. He good. 22:56.720 --> 23:00.440 You know people of the old likes to call it whatever it likes 23:00.440 --> 23:03.570 as for him to speak to what I'm saying is we're looking forward 23:03.570 --> 23:07.040 to having these discussions with for menstrual out Roth and the 23:07.040 --> 23:10.060 rest of the international siri support group in Munich and that 23:10.090 --> 23:14.930 and as a secretary also said this this week that that that Thursday's 23:14.930 --> 23:18.190 meeting will be very telling in terms of how far we can get on 23:18.190 --> 23:22.380 both those fronts of the series all the players are to arriving 23:22.380 --> 23:25.940 it real solutions. So I mean just adjust if it it's just rush 23:25.940 --> 23:27.730 to use the one point start. 23:28.340 --> 23:29.260 So one of the town. 23:29.930 --> 23:31.880 So based on what it tells you. 23:32.630 --> 23:35.540 The where you go from the police let's see what that's a of things 23:35.540 --> 23:37.600 look on Thursday before we try to answer that question. 23:38.370 --> 23:43.220 Jarring and the state whether up the russians have put forward. 23:43.750 --> 23:47.530 A is helpful in to the process were with the U.S. 23:47.530 --> 23:52.200 considered a diversion from the terms of 20 to 54 fun not gonna 23:52.200 --> 23:55.890 get into it again it in a details here and that this would be 23:55.890 --> 23:59.480 for foreign minister lab rough to speak to a uh but. 24:00.560 --> 24:03.550 Like like why did the criticism is that the secretary insult 24:03.830 --> 24:09.220 put four today up bell russian military action essentially stalling 24:09.260 --> 24:10.610 the peace talks for. 24:11.550 --> 24:17.130 Would it be fair to say that what the minister lab role has suggested. 24:17.650 --> 24:21.330 Is helpful to the process of trying to get those peace talks 24:21.330 --> 24:25.590 we started or art or is simply another diversion by type who 24:25.590 --> 24:28.840 dared to ask me great be a great all market. I'm not gonna do 24:28.840 --> 24:31.050 that what what what we wanna get too. 24:32.100 --> 24:33.740 It is a sustainable. 24:34.600 --> 24:35.950 Executed ceasefire. 24:36.500 --> 24:38.760 That. That everybody signs up to. 24:39.540 --> 24:42.710 And so that the suffering can stop the second thing we really 24:42.710 --> 24:45.450 wanna get to see manager and access so that the suffering that 24:45.450 --> 24:47.760 already has occurred can be alleviated some degree. 24:48.290 --> 24:52.380 And so meaningful proposals plans calm whatever you will make 24:52.380 --> 24:55.530 you guessed it that the international community can get I think 24:55.990 --> 24:59.130 we will we will support and will contribute and be a part of 24:59.130 --> 24:59.820 that discussion. 25:00.380 --> 25:03.620 Um but I'm not gonna get ahead of discussions it in Munich that 25:03.620 --> 25:06.600 haven't happened yet and I can't predict how things are gonna 25:06.600 --> 25:09.640 go on Thursday. We're gonna have to get there and and see one 25:09.640 --> 25:15.590 more is there a sense going into Thursday that getting the peace 25:15.590 --> 25:19.930 talks started before the 20 fifth of this month is a more realistic 25:19.930 --> 25:23.570 possibility or are we still way to have to wait until the end 25:23.570 --> 25:25.690 of them up for these talks to risen it's. 25:26.780 --> 25:29.450 Too soon to say with any specificities or raza me honesty we 25:29.450 --> 25:33.360 go out the results of the stocks to occur before the animal. 25:33.950 --> 25:37.860 And I think in a a special envoy mr. As a target date of their 25:37.860 --> 25:40.650 20 fifth february odyssey. They could happen sooner than that 25:40.650 --> 25:45.620 that would be a that would be a valuable but I think a um I think 25:45.770 --> 25:48.790 Thursday's discussions going to give us a little bit better perspective 25:48.790 --> 25:52.840 on the um on where that's gonna sit. I just I just can't predict 25:52.840 --> 25:55.900 it right now but clearly want them to come back to the tables 25:56.300 --> 26:01.050 you want them to come back to discussions and um because that 26:01.080 --> 26:02.320 is really mean that. 26:03.050 --> 26:06.420 Really is the heart of this issue of trying to get a political 26:06.420 --> 26:09.930 solution eight you gotta have the parties sit down and enemy 26:09.930 --> 26:12.370 signing opportunity got a dialogue even if it is. 26:13.060 --> 26:17.430 By proxy um and we wanna see the process restored. Exactly. 26:17.430 --> 26:22.530 What would happen. I I I justin bieber. I identified proximity talks. 26:22.530 --> 26:25.400 The fact that when they met in Geneva the TV watch sedan the 26:25.400 --> 26:28.800 on the table last week you have proxy I think dough you think 26:28.800 --> 26:32.170 it's kind of ironic feel like you're talking about Syrians meeting 26:32.170 --> 26:35.520 to figure out the way fell word for Syrians themselves. But yet 26:35.520 --> 26:38.710 you're talking about a meeting in Munich were no Syrian is gonna 26:38.710 --> 26:41.880 be there about adjusts icing factor in whether the talks are 26:41.880 --> 26:45.590 gonna resume. Tell others that the first of all that we always 26:45.590 --> 26:48.160 said that that that the talks in Geneva this started we're gonna 26:48.160 --> 26:50.710 be proximity talks that they wouldn't be sitting across from 26:50.710 --> 26:55.650 one another going on when I are said with it. Mr. Diva store uh. 26:56.340 --> 27:01.710 The Unique aided hard all their vast them that was the first 27:01.710 --> 27:04.350 start of the suit venture you're gonna wanna get to a point where 27:04.350 --> 27:06.690 they are sitting across from table. One another we're just not 27:06.690 --> 27:10.940 a stage than anything the in Munich that international siri support group. 27:11.490 --> 27:16.140 Um has a to date included members of of the opposition or the 27:16.140 --> 27:20.340 regime um and it's been about creating enough. 27:21.320 --> 27:24.560 The and our share in the international community to try to make 27:24.560 --> 27:26.010 things happen and 27:27.720 --> 27:32.280 It's no secret anybody that there are nations or entities there. 27:33.020 --> 27:35.950 In that roman will be in that room and meaning that have inflict 27:35.950 --> 27:39.310 significant influence over the regime significant influence over 27:39.310 --> 27:43.030 the opposition groups um and those those discussions will continue 27:43.030 --> 27:43.610 in that vein. 27:44.590 --> 27:50.190 Yeah. The timing is it true key will be shamed a local just as 27:50.190 --> 27:53.610 a level of one time defended turkish cities during world war one. 27:54.460 --> 27:58.090 He said to opposed will move we came out with his story get that 27:58.090 --> 28:00.800 this they can suggest some kind of military action that the navy 28:00.940 --> 28:04.300 finding does the lasted by Street teach move forward with a sport 28:04.300 --> 28:05.040 not to. 28:05.630 --> 28:10.210 And that I'm not gonna speak to a military matters intentions 28:10.210 --> 28:14.500 are statements by a another form don't have the fantasy those 28:14.500 --> 28:18.630 comments I'm into the turkish government can can speak to that 28:18.980 --> 28:21.240 have that what we continued. 28:21.830 --> 28:23.730 To the to believe two things. 28:24.390 --> 28:26.910 One there's not any military solution. There's conflict. 28:27.410 --> 28:29.970 That's not gonna change that our view that is not gonna change 28:29.970 --> 28:34.180 and turkey has been a key player in the political process. 28:34.280 --> 28:37.120 They are member of the one of the founding members. If you will 28:37.150 --> 28:40.700 of the international siri support group and have like the russians 28:40.900 --> 28:46.720 signed up to this to cumin a case and side out the the is to 28:46.840 --> 28:50.330 them the decisions and the un about the what about the way forward 28:50.330 --> 28:53.000 which is that there's gonna be a political solutions gotta start 28:53.000 --> 28:56.210 with a cease fire and humanitarian access and use a flow so that 28:56.370 --> 28:59.420 the church is signed up to all those principles to based agree 28:59.420 --> 29:01.730 that the issue that this is gonna be solved politically. 29:02.150 --> 29:05.590 I'm the second thing I would tell yet is that we do look for 29:05.590 --> 29:09.030 turkey's systems on the military front line comes the fighting dash. 29:09.590 --> 29:12.720 I'm in syria and they have been a contributor and uh and they 29:12.720 --> 29:16.240 have helped him or any continue look for ways to to improve the 29:16.270 --> 29:19.900 mistaken suggest implies that it would be um military action 29:19.930 --> 29:24.010 against a asaf not the irishman teach us approve of charges to 29:24.010 --> 29:27.580 monitor you indicated implications in somebody else's state and 29:27.580 --> 29:30.260 she should talk to you she talked of Turks about what they're 29:30.260 --> 29:34.960 implying or inferring or or and a war suggesting in that statement 29:34.960 --> 29:36.120 that's for them just the do. 29:36.980 --> 29:40.000 I'll go back to what I said point one we still believe that there's 29:40.000 --> 29:45.230 not going to be a military solution to the To the civil war in syria. 29:45.900 --> 29:48.660 Nothing's changed about our viewers here in the United States. 29:48.730 --> 29:51.550 It doesn't mean they do would not approve of turkey's tomato 29:51.550 --> 29:54.600 live in such a machinery and answer the question is are it's 29:54.740 --> 29:58.880 very easy for the little ones analogies there. We just wanted 29:58.880 --> 30:01.540 to Afghanistan whipping interviewing to interpreters that were 30:01.620 --> 30:05.610 us military they are hiding all the Taliban is actively hunting 30:05.670 --> 30:09.780 in killing them. I'm beats congresses directed. First-aid are 30:09.780 --> 30:13.430 made to consider there 's pieces within a nine month period in 30:13.430 --> 30:17.200 the Afghan allies protection at the 2009 but beet processing 30:17.200 --> 30:20.240 the ministry to processing these these is is taking far for longer 30:20.240 --> 30:23.030 than the ones for everyone that we've interviewed here back here 30:23.030 --> 30:24.690 which wanted sock you got back in. 30:25.260 --> 30:27.280 This fairly because he was murdered by the fall of a. 30:27.820 --> 30:30.630 Wall waiting for him is that the use of to be in the share with 30:30.630 --> 30:34.420 processed it's still being the church we process to pay this women. 30:34.420 --> 30:35.510 So super with three years. 30:36.390 --> 30:37.670 When someone like that is kill. 30:39.230 --> 30:42.740 Does the U.S. Dicksons have a responsibility for their beyond 30:42.740 --> 30:46.620 that nine month period relieving these guys were the fresh. That's. 30:49.060 --> 30:51.230 Well first of all 20 saying oh. 30:52.600 --> 30:56.510 Was that we're grateful for the systems and services them that 30:56.510 --> 30:58.210 these inter Parisian given a. 30:58.740 --> 31:03.450 Huge seeing that upfront. I know you have a not just in Afghanistan 31:03.450 --> 31:04.860 that in and rock as well. 31:05.740 --> 31:09.500 Um I certainly seen it up close and personal and it's it's it's 31:09.500 --> 31:13.290 a vital servers um and more grateful for. Requires more than 31:13.290 --> 31:16.840 just translation skills is you know it requires more own physical 31:16.840 --> 31:20.040 courage is. Well so we're very grateful for the the more mindful 31:20.040 --> 31:21.940 of and uh and uh. 31:22.910 --> 31:26.520 The concerns the some of them have about about that and getting 31:26.520 --> 31:31.270 easy says I'm camel mindful of our obligations the to them in time. 31:31.880 --> 31:38.030 Um. I had it there is some legislation now that that the codify 31:38.030 --> 31:40.640 some of the process here in terms of waiting that you know an 31:40.640 --> 31:46.580 application period and time frame and I'm a We work with converse 31:46.800 --> 31:49.180 and On that and um. 31:49.870 --> 31:54.020 In that we get we still we understand that they're still concerns 31:54.020 --> 31:58.550 about that and um and but we also have to wrestle to fall law 31:58.550 --> 32:01.960 land here and it is legislation now that to that we have to fall 32:02.330 --> 32:06.580 and um but a don't want to have that in any way beacon Street 32:06.580 --> 32:11.100 is uh you know lack of our sense of a of can it and an obligation 32:11.100 --> 32:13.810 to these individual cinema was killed yesterday kandahar. 32:14.120 --> 32:17.680 No one seems to be in serious and emitted enough threat to get 32:17.680 --> 32:20.540 the translators out of the country it back to making all the 32:20.540 --> 32:22.760 embassy there to say hey I I'm under threat. 32:23.310 --> 32:25.420 The response to get is a form letter it. This is saying is the 32:25.420 --> 32:26.640 last time that they somebody. 32:27.340 --> 32:29.730 Well okay I'm not from a with this to take medication take you 32:29.730 --> 32:33.740 can understand that our embassies impose shout equipped to conduct. 32:34.160 --> 32:38.480 You know rescue missions or to you know I'm a she shelter individuals 32:38.480 --> 32:43.020 on an emergency patients. I'm just that's just not on our function. 32:43.020 --> 32:47.410 We don't have that capability and um but again we're we're not 32:47.410 --> 32:50.650 an mindful of the physical danger that these individuals have. 32:51.680 --> 32:56.240 I have a are are facing with me. We know that I'm in we know 32:56.240 --> 32:59.400 that the U.S. military knows them and. Out. 33:01.790 --> 33:05.790 Mm wheat VC have a commitment and we know and and we we know 33:05.790 --> 33:06.180 we do. 33:07.320 --> 33:09.620 But here's a departed our commitment should try to make sure 33:09.620 --> 33:11.590 that we're working with members of congress to make sure that 33:11.590 --> 33:12.300 does this. 33:12.860 --> 33:16.650 Processing of these pieces is done the is fairly and is evenly 33:16.650 --> 33:20.190 as possible and again would go we got legislation now we have 33:20.190 --> 33:24.740 to follow this lull and Um and and we will and um. Yeah there 33:24.740 --> 33:26.970 are there for years there are. 33:27.660 --> 33:31.000 You know in a situation like this a dire situation like that 33:31.000 --> 33:32.610 you're scrubbing. I mean our. 33:33.380 --> 33:37.230 There are other options available to individuals aside from a 33:37.260 --> 33:38.850 heat you know of from just EMC. 33:39.700 --> 33:43.610 They can I thought I mean the Spanish analysts ace and they have 33:43.610 --> 33:47.110 in place now that this guy's talking about stuff people of waiting 33:47.110 --> 33:50.380 for visas for three years for alleged station was in place. 33:50.560 --> 33:54.390 I can speak to a past cases Italy's I just don't have that the 33:54.440 --> 33:57.350 moved up the detail here that we have a long now that we have 33:57.350 --> 33:59.600 to execute in a mouse and we will. 34:00.500 --> 34:03.420 Sitting waiting for over three years in the turning the tragedy. 34:03.420 --> 34:05.650 I didn't like what he said that there was for the guys are getting 34:05.650 --> 34:10.240 murder now Wall waiting over three years with a VC I can't speak 34:10.240 --> 34:12.010 deech chase hat and I. 34:12.590 --> 34:14.130 That again. Well. 34:15.340 --> 34:19.770 We're. We're mindful of the danger they've taken on and the danger 34:19.770 --> 34:20.690 that they faced now. 34:21.440 --> 34:26.260 Um. And even the poem that uh I understand that pat and I can 34:26.260 --> 34:29.320 assure you that that's not the case had to. 34:29.890 --> 34:34.740 We We told them very close as their families and their families 34:35.160 --> 34:40.030 um and that the for those that have unfortunately been harmed 34:40.500 --> 34:44.690 or killed that certainly are tossing condolences go out to them 34:44.720 --> 34:48.680 and to their families that. Absolutely am I I can just tell you 34:48.680 --> 34:52.750 that we're we're focused on this very very keenly them have that 34:53.080 --> 34:57.670 again we also have an obligation to follow us law um. He was 34:57.670 --> 35:01.270 so we're gonna have to do that and but the but I can take it 35:01.270 --> 35:04.950 will woo the inside the bounds of the law will do everything 35:04.950 --> 35:07.880 we can to try to help these in victims who have given that so 35:07.880 --> 35:10.010 much of the answers to our country yet. 35:11.010 --> 35:15.110 He goes to halt many out and posse to so wiki for the such units 35:15.490 --> 35:18.630 and anything discussion. I'll take it. I don't know if we got 35:18.630 --> 35:19.610 that kind of the yet. 35:20.570 --> 35:24.830 He. Sixty inmates with visit foreign ministers senate show cree. 35:24.940 --> 35:28.640 Yeah as sick of this said dead evasive challenges and issues 35:28.980 --> 35:33.160 that egypt and in iced isn't walking on together. So what kind 35:33.160 --> 35:37.570 of features easy war on terror that you're my right eats eve. 35:37.570 --> 35:39.470 Yeah now. We know that this is like. 35:40.100 --> 35:43.640 The the golfing about with how to compete with that mediation. 35:44.030 --> 35:47.930 Yes yes and yes as well as Without the about all those things today. 35:48.300 --> 35:50.190 Yeah. And three. 35:51.620 --> 35:56.190 From. That the surgery may praised we have routinely raise the asian. 35:56.190 --> 35:59.840 No question that the human rights concerns with many different 35:59.840 --> 36:01.710 nations um and uh. 36:02.230 --> 36:06.030 We we've been the very open and candid about that the with egypt. 36:06.670 --> 36:11.480 That the secretary that began raise our concerns about I'm certain 36:11.480 --> 36:15.640 human rights issues in the in egypt though today and um and we'll 36:15.640 --> 36:20.380 continue to do so cute he patriots raise the case and the italian 36:20.410 --> 36:22.170 tradition who was found. 36:22.800 --> 36:26.870 A tortured and killed the good that figure in the conversation 36:26.870 --> 36:32.360 up all action it in the issue came up. Yes you can you elaborate 36:32.360 --> 36:36.310 on what the SEC trader said to the call for a two to one investigation nor. 36:36.980 --> 36:40.380 Uh not elaborate on the details of the discussion that the study 36:40.580 --> 36:41.560 but it it became a. 36:44.080 --> 36:45.160 Sarin in the via. 36:45.760 --> 36:48.860 What kind of corporation between egypt and United States. 36:49.400 --> 36:52.430 I don't speak to the specifics here um. I can Teddy they did 36:52.430 --> 36:57.620 discuss that libya. Obviously it's series in the egypt's interest 36:57.760 --> 37:01.580 to see beauty a more stable more secure donna's see our interest 37:01.750 --> 37:02.770 to see the same outcome. 37:03.330 --> 37:08.610 Um and uh that there was a healthy discussion about the Finding 37:08.610 --> 37:12.060 a political way fall word in libya to a government of national 37:12.060 --> 37:16.140 record and that we now need you know all the representatives 37:16.140 --> 37:20.160 in libya uh and to adopt so there was a general discussion about 37:20.160 --> 37:21.080 that a she might each. 37:21.830 --> 37:22.750 Yeah yeah. 37:23.280 --> 37:25.140 Yeah. Uh I wasn't looking at you. 37:26.120 --> 37:28.240 Party had you are you don't want uh. 37:28.350 --> 37:33.080 Oh. Uh it in use worldwide threat assessment that the and I pepper 37:33.080 --> 37:35.410 said new sesame with creators called you on it. 37:35.930 --> 37:39.660 And then and you don't know you nick griffin facility and that 37:39.770 --> 37:42.740 he could begin to recover plutonium from reactor spent fuel within 37:42.740 --> 37:43.950 a matter of weeks and months. 37:44.520 --> 37:48.140 The state ever commit to live in because this increasing the 37:48.140 --> 37:51.320 speed at which sanction should be placed an upgrade or starting 37:51.320 --> 37:55.550 out to be a position to a good to defer all with them. 37:56.900 --> 37:59.000 Reckon clappers assessment and uh. 37:59.670 --> 38:04.560 Uh and the fed three my speech yourself. I'm eight underscores. 38:05.380 --> 38:10.340 Tons. And is a very strong sense of urgency that we have here 38:10.340 --> 38:15.090 at the state department that the to see that the north this held 38:15.090 --> 38:15.630 to account. 38:16.210 --> 38:19.490 Um and that tougher measures are put in place to the international community. 38:20.260 --> 38:23.460 In just a told what's left distinction. I'm north korea. I mean 38:23.510 --> 38:25.760 we've sanctioned prayer much everything tree. 38:26.380 --> 38:29.940 Practically everything that's well what's left of I'm not gonna 38:29.940 --> 38:32.540 Gannes sanctions in and unwritten um. 38:33.260 --> 38:37.080 The EU is taking this up and many let the process a move forward. 38:37.110 --> 38:38.700 I will say is a say yesterday though. 38:39.740 --> 38:43.590 That. In the past not all sanctions have been evenly applied 38:43.590 --> 38:47.150 are enforced while parties and so part of this is. 38:47.690 --> 38:50.540 Not only coming up with tougher measures but making sure that 38:50.540 --> 38:53.890 there's a strong enough in fortunate regimen places are everybody's 38:53.890 --> 38:55.280 appalling them in the same manner. 38:56.250 --> 38:56.690 It was. 38:57.430 --> 38:59.070 Yeah sure. Good. 39:01.260 --> 39:04.680 These. That the rest of the senate is expected to take at the 39:04.680 --> 39:07.640 bill tomorrow that would um tighten sanctions on north korea 39:07.640 --> 39:11.360 who losers I'm astonished. Yeah and these are cannolis that would 39:11.360 --> 39:15.830 largely target chinese interests and that work with the country 39:15.830 --> 39:19.580 um first of all what use your response and secondly would this 39:19.580 --> 39:23.960 be a sufficient us response to north korea's to recent tests. 39:24.380 --> 39:25.210 I'm not getting. 39:25.760 --> 39:26.890 Certainly get ahead of. 39:27.410 --> 39:32.130 Um legislation pending or being discussed on capitol me nicky 39:32.130 --> 39:35.820 that the uh with a free to members of congress for what they 39:35.820 --> 39:39.810 may or may not be considering and uh to do obviously the United 39:39.810 --> 39:40.590 States has. 39:41.150 --> 39:45.940 As we always have had a the ability to unilaterally apply sanctions 39:45.940 --> 39:52.250 to meet certain ups um um and The secretary certainly the is 39:52.250 --> 39:55.160 willing to continue to consult and communicate with members of 39:55.160 --> 39:55.860 congress about. 39:56.510 --> 40:01.620 About potential unilateral actions as well but we doesn't change 40:01.620 --> 40:04.590 anything about. The fact that we still firmly believe that the 40:04.590 --> 40:07.810 international community has got to apply more pressure on the north. 40:08.760 --> 40:11.940 And a second and that I think rods issuers smoked meats yo el 40:11.940 --> 40:12.990 cable sunscreen at. 40:13.550 --> 40:17.490 And I just were defined else's you keeps saying that san denise 40:17.490 --> 40:18.230 to be a. More. 40:20.330 --> 40:21.280 What's the expression. 40:21.920 --> 40:24.410 Applying the sanctions regime and forcing it's. 40:24.950 --> 40:28.920 Equally and you know as a fairly as possible. 40:29.990 --> 40:32.470 Even when evenly guest that's the work. 40:33.320 --> 40:37.850 What is the us prepared to do to persuade china in particular 40:38.310 --> 40:41.250 see we'll hold up its end of the bargain what's a prepared to 40:41.280 --> 40:44.720 offer was it prepared to do and. Retaliation. 40:46.730 --> 40:49.720 And he's he's not about 88 the it's not about. 40:50.400 --> 40:52.690 That trying did that. 40:53.600 --> 40:57.770 And And most old man one where the other here that one of the 40:57.770 --> 41:00.680 reasons we went to beijing homesick were you know. 41:01.200 --> 41:02.200 Sleek persuasion. 41:03.420 --> 41:06.440 Cream one of the reasons we went to beijing. Great frankie was 41:06.440 --> 41:09.720 so that we get have a serious and sober discussion with chinese 41:09.720 --> 41:13.260 leaders about the norse reason actions and about trying to enact 41:13.290 --> 41:18.770 tougher measures them in even the jenny's said publicly after 41:18.770 --> 41:21.430 that mean that that's a great that the north needs to be held 41:21.430 --> 41:25.640 to account now that doesn't mean that there's necessarily uniform 41:25.640 --> 41:29.500 agreement between a nine seats in china on what that means um 41:29.530 --> 41:31.780 the chinese have influence. 41:32.360 --> 41:35.460 But they also have interests and we recognize that when it comes 41:35.460 --> 41:37.510 to that when it comes to. 41:38.030 --> 41:40.720 Uh that border them but. 41:41.610 --> 41:43.930 The we believe that all nations. 41:44.660 --> 41:45.390 Caned you more. 41:46.160 --> 41:50.690 And uh to hold the north to account and we believe that all nations 41:50.690 --> 41:54.170 have a responsibility when sanctions are put in place to applied 41:54.170 --> 41:57.560 in evenly and stringently. So that they can have effect. 41:57.560 --> 42:00.250 It's intended that that that they're it'd intended to have that 42:00.250 --> 42:04.690 has always been the case this isn't about strong army that he 42:04.690 --> 42:08.580 china it's about trying to seek a the international consensus 42:08.580 --> 42:09.570 on away for a. 42:10.190 --> 42:14.140 Yeah. It topics yesterday's several. 42:14.750 --> 42:18.240 Ethiopian American groups demonstrated outside of the state department 42:18.240 --> 42:20.900 they are asking for the obama administration to. 42:21.500 --> 42:24.900 Press the Ethiopian government to open an independent probe into 42:24.900 --> 42:25.590 the killing of. 42:26.090 --> 42:31.370 Opposition demonstrators and or Romeo um does the us believe 42:31.410 --> 42:35.350 there should be an independent investigation into the spot. 42:36.890 --> 42:40.090 I can say about that that that we remain I was seen deepened 42:40.090 --> 42:44.740 concern about the situation and are only a Critically following 42:44.840 --> 42:47.880 the recent why spurred protests many of which escalated into 42:47.880 --> 42:50.680 violent clashes between security forces and protesters. 42:51.300 --> 42:53.930 The government's heavy-handed response resulted in the death 42:53.930 --> 42:56.820 of numerous protesters' any arrests of many others including 42:56.820 --> 43:00.420 journalists and political party leaders. We've raised our concerns 43:00.420 --> 43:03.820 both publicly and privately with the government of Ethiopia others 43:03.820 --> 43:06.870 universal agreement that the loss of life including police officers 43:06.870 --> 43:08.610 and local officials was unnecessary. 43:09.560 --> 43:13.390 Um the get the system secretary linda towns greenfield assistance 43:13.390 --> 43:16.980 or victory for democracy human rights and labor Tao now now skis 43:16.980 --> 43:19.780 are visit to ice a Baba the engineering. 43:20.360 --> 43:23.690 As part of a us delegation to the African union such meetings 43:23.690 --> 43:25.840 with Ethiopian government leaders and members. 43:26.380 --> 43:28.200 Of the the a romo community. 43:29.050 --> 43:30.270 There was general agreement. 43:30.930 --> 43:33.860 And that they needed to be better communication with that community 43:33.890 --> 43:36.740 and politically with the young people the letter recognition 43:36.740 --> 43:38.380 of the root causes the protests. 43:39.410 --> 43:42.560 I think we all understand that piece of the protests are about 43:42.590 --> 43:46.230 more issues than just the plan note that the government of Ethiopia 43:46.230 --> 43:49.870 is decision to cancel on january fourteenth the master plan that 43:49.870 --> 43:52.850 that that this was a this was an important first at this is an 43:52.850 --> 43:53.470 important first. 43:54.700 --> 43:57.380 Um so we're concerned that a continuing stifling even if their 43:57.380 --> 44:01.240 voices there in Ethiopia the and the arrests they have a chilling 44:01.240 --> 44:05.450 effect on much the much-needed public consultations resolve legitimate 44:05.690 --> 44:07.270 political grievances there. 44:07.800 --> 44:09.440 Have we reaffirm our call. 44:09.970 --> 44:13.050 On that Ethiopian government to refrain from silencing dissent 44:13.080 --> 44:16.660 and to can protect the constitution and shrine rights of all 44:16.660 --> 44:20.200 citizens including the right together peacefully to write to 44:20.200 --> 44:23.750 speak freely that as forces of a diverse nation. 44:24.620 --> 44:29.360 Yeah yeah on a again um and I could use the out but to be doing 44:29.360 --> 44:33.570 this in infiniti that the musicians of the union fox tied remains. 44:33.600 --> 44:38.250 Then smuggle I'm and is said duck Indiana's in geller talk a 44:38.250 --> 44:43.180 boxed on defense on a box style sweetness to take action against 44:43.180 --> 44:44.760 the pecan pope innocent back. 44:45.300 --> 44:48.310 So I had to push its one due to be with is as this man. 44:49.930 --> 44:52.990 That's the situation between india Pakistan's tens of a serious. 44:53.510 --> 44:58.180 I knew about the second up about assessment evolve to a new Indians 44:58.180 --> 45:03.100 some box in pakistan defense on ex-cons a willingness to buck 45:03.100 --> 45:06.700 deck action against what can go to sleep to cut the Pakistanis. 45:06.700 --> 45:10.630 It's it themselves publicly that and not to discriminate amongst 45:10.840 --> 45:15.490 dear groups um and We know that this is a threat they face as well. 45:16.220 --> 45:19.930 And what I said before still stands that the that we want Bosu 45:19.930 --> 45:24.460 to this to continue the dialogue that has started with understanding 45:24.460 --> 45:27.340 that is still a tense situation. But we wanted to continue the 45:27.340 --> 45:30.550 dialogue that they started to try to get it. It. What is very 45:30.550 --> 45:31.710 of a very common. 45:32.230 --> 45:35.560 And I challenge to to both countries but I would point you back 45:35.560 --> 45:37.980 to a Pakistani leaders themselves a said that they're not gonna 45:37.980 --> 45:40.670 discriminate between good that has included welcomed month was 45:40.700 --> 45:44.050 more than a month the so do seem pack started taking action against 45:44.150 --> 45:45.030 these make looks. 45:45.970 --> 45:49.950 That we think it's important for everybody facing these has a 45:49.950 --> 45:53.120 dress to take the actions that they need to do to to to protect 45:53.120 --> 45:56.660 of us either their own people on their borders. But also to eliminate 45:56.660 --> 45:57.990 this very trams. 45:58.640 --> 46:05.800 And a trans national fret that that terrorism is not in the Pakistanis 46:05.800 --> 46:10.490 have taken the additional steps uh in the recent past can they 46:10.490 --> 46:15.090 do more every nation fighting terrorism cannot VC do more because 46:15.090 --> 46:16.770 it's still a very real. 46:17.350 --> 46:21.080 A threat out there are many parts of the world um but again what 46:21.080 --> 46:24.660 we one is for india pakistan to continue work together opposite 46:24.690 --> 46:29.760 inching bikini and box. I'm the affect Cod interest in. Afghanistan. 46:31.420 --> 46:35.100 That's asian trade dressed in effect that. Well I was the both 46:35.350 --> 46:39.780 countries have the Interest in regional stability and security. 46:41.050 --> 46:42.970 And they ve wage Afghanistan. 46:43.580 --> 46:47.320 Is not stable and we all recognize that have that Afghanistan 46:47.320 --> 46:49.150 store dangers for a sunny seed effects. 46:50.150 --> 46:53.490 The calculations of india pakistan with respect in the national 46:53.490 --> 46:55.580 security concerns and we recognize that. 46:56.090 --> 47:00.260 Um india has played a a hell for role in Afghanistan the in the 47:00.260 --> 47:05.100 past that in terms of mostly of the training capacity an hour 47:05.100 --> 47:08.300 or will you stupid participate in the than pakistan has played 47:08.700 --> 47:09.870 a a. 47:11.080 --> 47:13.590 Yeah in ways has played a useful will. 47:14.210 --> 47:15.660 But in terms of that. 47:16.320 --> 47:20.210 Gazed across the across borders right there in the border regions. 47:21.200 --> 47:22.080 Um so. 47:23.090 --> 47:26.900 What matters most go to the United States in terms of our interests 47:26.900 --> 47:31.000 in Afghanistan is making sure that from a military perspective 47:31.000 --> 47:34.570 we're continuing to support Afghan nationals of security forces. 47:35.110 --> 47:38.970 Improving their capability in their confidence um a to secure 47:38.970 --> 47:42.810 their own people and then diplomatically to try to get the relationship 47:42.860 --> 47:45.850 on a more normal basics. What we want with Afghanistan is the 47:45.850 --> 47:50.080 kind of and that in normal bilateral relationship that we have 47:50.080 --> 47:53.400 with nations all over the world that so far it's been very heavily defended. 47:54.030 --> 47:57.200 The security component and nobody's arguing that that does is 47:57.200 --> 47:57.920 still matters. 47:58.660 --> 48:02.180 Um but we'll we'll we wanted to duties of for present ghani and 48:02.210 --> 48:05.760 chief executive of do a as date make the necessary are forms 48:06.100 --> 48:10.160 that must be made in Afghanistan as they continue to foster the 48:10.160 --> 48:13.340 growth and development of Afghan national security forces and 48:13.340 --> 48:16.780 the eyes adjust one one will fund the budget to civic say it 48:16.780 --> 48:20.000 has that was a tentative to six million folk rock star and one 48:20.000 --> 48:22.900 of the reasons he sees the senate is this farce giving money 48:22.900 --> 48:27.080 to boxed uh why he's cp say is about improving relations to be 48:27.080 --> 48:29.150 jeanine again faxed a and man. 48:29.780 --> 48:33.090 Looking without spending will that naked Nectars security and 48:33.090 --> 48:36.230 isn't it that goals of the six million fall five minutes DC is 48:36.230 --> 48:38.960 what the foreign the same simply too polite to that we never 48:38.990 --> 48:42.960 talk in advance of form alters cells before they and the foreign 48:42.960 --> 48:45.690 aid and finally decided to execute when I'm just gonna sunday 48:46.070 --> 48:50.030 it on kicking and this is a more guilt was encouraging yesterday 48:50.030 --> 48:54.500 ending is for one Kyra is that I'm that germany and turkey will 48:54.500 --> 48:55.510 call on NATO. 48:56.120 --> 48:59.490 On Thursday to help the or a pope within refugee crisis. 48:59.990 --> 49:02.660 This away-day the prime minister added wouldn't have said that 49:02.690 --> 49:06.980 taken sir honey will present tomato is in the nhs and I can make 49:06.980 --> 49:09.950 the sit stepping regarding the results of the refugee flow from 49:09.950 --> 49:13.250 syria and in part due to lack a common netflix. So the Lakers 49:13.250 --> 49:16.760 lonely during mechanism singing use effectively on the border 49:17.190 --> 49:19.440 with syria and then being DMC. 49:19.980 --> 49:23.500 As far as the us is concerned do you believe that could be a 49:23.500 --> 49:26.720 role for NATO to play in the aegean sea and maybe even of the 49:26.720 --> 49:31.120 Syrian to just order first of all that many european nations 49:31.120 --> 49:36.010 are dealing with this heavy and refugee flow them and we recognize 49:36.010 --> 49:39.760 that the sector it was in london just the last week the the donor's 49:39.760 --> 49:43.450 conference to try to him not just increase our commitments but 49:43.450 --> 49:46.660 to encourage increase in the midst the other nations to deal 49:46.660 --> 49:51.140 with this crisis. I'm a to so why one to Munich tomorrow. 49:51.140 --> 49:54.010 So we can try to resolve the crisis from the heart of it which 49:54.010 --> 49:56.600 easy in syria get a political solution. So that doesn't need 49:56.600 --> 49:59.660 to be this refugee flow. I won't get ahead of decisions that 49:59.880 --> 50:03.050 NATO is taken up are not taken up. Oh we're seizes that NATO 50:03.320 --> 50:07.210 may make that's that's from the leaders of the ill lines to speak 50:07.210 --> 50:11.210 to understand there's a defense minister was week um and that 50:11.210 --> 50:14.210 to the degree to which this is an agenda item uh is really for 50:14.210 --> 50:18.570 NATO to speak to um and the defense ministers not not here to 50:18.600 --> 50:21.530 at the state department what we do believe in Jiabao. 50:22.100 --> 50:26.530 That. All nations have as the secretary said in london all nations 50:26.530 --> 50:29.590 have a responsibility to tried to come together and deal with 50:29.590 --> 50:33.130 this crisis in ways that are most appropriate United States is 50:33.160 --> 50:33.730 a leader. 50:34.390 --> 50:37.150 On this the degree from the financial perspective we're going 50:37.150 --> 50:41.570 to a stale leader of this animal to stay involved and again for 50:41.570 --> 50:44.940 our part here. That's why the than being in the is so important 50:44.940 --> 50:48.610 that's why it's a word driving so hard try to get a political resolution. 50:48.610 --> 50:49.750 That's thanks right..