WEBVTT 00:03.050 --> 00:07.180 Okay. A general appreciate you being here in and all your great 00:07.180 --> 00:08.140 work through the years. 00:08.900 --> 00:13.230 I'm in your testimony right to or you say in and right we recently 00:13.230 --> 00:15.320 gain the authority to strike bunch. 00:15.920 --> 00:18.920 Since the mid have we have had considerable success and dick 00:18.950 --> 00:20.470 to grating their capabilities. 00:21.320 --> 00:24.470 A a lot of us are concerned that about authority was not given 00:24.470 --> 00:26.300 to earlier than it was. 00:26.920 --> 00:30.460 A and clearly that has that that has been a a a challenge. 00:31.040 --> 00:34.880 Um later in your testimony right groups allied with the Taliban's 00:34.880 --> 00:38.060 such as ah pride a and the hope Connie network continued to threaten 00:38.060 --> 00:39.900 our national security interests. 00:40.760 --> 00:44.190 Can you share for us um do you have the of Doherty is necessary 00:44.190 --> 00:47.850 to strike the Taliban applied a and the huh Connie. Network. 00:50.350 --> 00:50.770 The question. 00:51.290 --> 00:52.540 Or to to to protect. 00:53.180 --> 00:57.890 A coalition member shaking of against in interns connock Calvano 00:57.890 --> 01:02.430 can of the for the for posing as a threat to to work cautioned 01:02.430 --> 01:05.970 that the you have the authority to strike the Taliban. 01:06.510 --> 01:08.300 Because they are the. Taliban. 01:12.090 --> 01:12.620 British. Why. 01:15.320 --> 01:18.680 Jennifer tall barnard attacking coalition forces them. I have 01:18.710 --> 01:22.300 everything an aide to do that to attack to tell a bond just because 01:22.300 --> 01:23.260 they're tall bon. 01:23.800 --> 01:27.130 Uh I do not about of ordered. So the president that's of this 01:27.130 --> 01:31.010 is a the 2001 authorization freeze of military force quote the 01:31.010 --> 01:34.470 president is authorized to use all necessary in appropriate force 01:34.470 --> 01:38.280 against those nations organizations or persons. He determines 01:38.280 --> 01:41.920 plan authorized committed or aided the terrorist attacks that 01:41.920 --> 01:46.140 occurred an SUV number 11 2001 or harbors such organizations 01:46.140 --> 01:47.640 wore purple or persons. 01:48.530 --> 01:51.390 Did the Taliban harbor such organizations or persons. 01:53.120 --> 01:57.380 A tall broad and at all can our and the um ali insurgent groups 01:57.380 --> 02:00.720 the networks with i've never really intertwined is very difficult. 02:01.220 --> 02:05.410 Many times so separate who's a kid who's tell been there's ttps 02:05.410 --> 02:08.490 lose im. You lose the according to the authorization free use 02:08.490 --> 02:12.310 of military force you have the authority given to you by congress 02:12.310 --> 02:16.000 sign by the president to use the necessary force and at the president 02:16.030 --> 02:19.130 it seems as saying you can't the talk the Taliban's even though 02:19.450 --> 02:23.500 they were responsible for supply Merlot and China think is we're 02:23.500 --> 02:26.350 jester mission in 2015 the um. 02:27.410 --> 02:31.930 We won away from combat operations work with the Afghans to a 02:31.970 --> 02:34.520 bill their Kate goalie due to the the go after the tall bond 02:34.850 --> 02:37.940 again of a tell by order never attacking or pose a threat to 02:37.940 --> 02:41.400 coalition forces either thing I made provide that force protection. 02:42.260 --> 02:44.200 Laughter tall of on the because are tall von. 02:44.710 --> 02:45.950 Uh I don't do that's or. 02:46.560 --> 02:49.570 So in in when you talk about that train in assists mission that 02:49.600 --> 02:53.840 the T a a mission ezra testimony a talks about um. 02:54.550 --> 02:59.050 That one of the challenges we have is with only 9800 troops makes 02:59.050 --> 03:03.310 it difficult to to do that kind of training and assisting out 03:03.310 --> 03:04.690 lower levels is a correct. 03:05.910 --> 03:08.590 Are we all into trent buys insist that the minister alone when 03:08.590 --> 03:12.800 I'm owed am. Oh why a at the core level and really only on for 03:12.800 --> 03:16.300 the six cores on the other two cores were bride expeditionary advise. 03:16.300 --> 03:19.170 Ring was toward call level one it's not every day is probably 03:19.210 --> 03:22.110 a sporadically and order wide noted. 03:22.610 --> 03:26.320 Tactical level PS to a only a special operating forces and with 03:26.320 --> 03:29.370 here for so we're not down at the kandak ripper time of or not 03:29.370 --> 03:32.410 down a Brigade level would it be beneficial to to be able to 03:32.410 --> 03:35.420 go to those lower levels with training insisting tour and we're 03:35.420 --> 03:37.940 looking that in our session of that would make a difference or uh. 03:37.980 --> 03:40.400 I don't think we can do that every word yet I would that would 03:40.440 --> 03:43.320 them number forces. I would take would be far more the what we've 03:43.320 --> 03:46.230 had in the search many years ago. I think what we have to do 03:46.230 --> 03:49.500 a better job this taken the right units in a providing them the 03:49.500 --> 03:51.520 right necessary equipment training manning. 03:52.100 --> 03:56.450 A And put them in the right places and as we focus on special 03:56.450 --> 03:59.320 operate forces that made a huge difference. I think if they get 03:59.320 --> 04:02.730 after other reform sub we pork with a Mann getting off checkpoints. 04:03.090 --> 04:05.730 No come up with a force generation cycle working off attrition 04:05.730 --> 04:09.250 building leadership the that will probably do a lot more at this 04:09.250 --> 04:12.570 point time form and try to put a whole bunch people down the 04:12.570 --> 04:15.510 kandak but we'd written this purchase unrealistic of as pointed 04:15.730 --> 04:19.150 that the the limited training and assisting that we're currently 04:19.150 --> 04:25.090 doing a we we ought to be doing more if we go down from a 9800 04:25.090 --> 04:29.960 troops to 5500 troops a year from now I I presume that means 04:29.960 --> 04:32.870 we're gonna be doing even less trying and it training and equipping 04:33.330 --> 04:36.070 a is actors are gonna be a good idea ever about idea. 04:37.250 --> 04:40.430 Given where we are right now the think that's even possible interim 04:40.430 --> 04:43.450 a mork and assessment work up to the process bride and the were 04:43.450 --> 04:47.190 re go with a again the from three 50 500 numbers more focused 04:47.190 --> 04:50.600 on the sea to mission has opposed to a tear emotionally what 04:50.600 --> 04:53.480 we won't be able to do Thi a at those numbers are why of a very 04:53.480 --> 04:56.790 limited ability to to and for to 500 none lastly. Mr. 04:56.790 --> 05:00.770 Chairman uh it is astonishing that to um that that we have an 05:00.770 --> 05:04.260 authority to go after the Taliban and the president is preventing 05:04.260 --> 05:05.140 us from doing that. 05:05.710 --> 05:06.580 A ideal. Back. 05:09.140 --> 05:09.750 Mr ushered.. What. 05:11.910 --> 05:18.340 What. The genner campbell won the iraq. I was in them. 05:19.260 --> 05:23.080 Afghanistan blasted or so a year ago and I I which is chime and 05:23.080 --> 05:26.030 by saying that I think that that what i've been hearing today 05:26.030 --> 05:29.160 and their bread is supposed to that that they're been exceptional 05:29.560 --> 05:31.830 things happen last year and that them. 05:32.660 --> 05:36.610 Yeah it's issue a man with a general Connie or insert a president 05:36.610 --> 05:38.480 donnie back in february. We talked about. 05:39.230 --> 05:42.420 The many elements of what has to change in Afghanistan to be 05:42.420 --> 05:44.760 successful and odyssey there's the military side. 05:45.590 --> 05:49.130 Uh but there are other elements that are are critical and I and 05:49.160 --> 05:51.190 I was struck by which you said. 05:51.800 --> 05:53.290 Today in about your uh uh. 05:53.960 --> 05:57.670 In ball but in those other elements of how do you create a stable. 05:58.180 --> 05:58.920 Uh a country. 05:59.970 --> 06:02.720 And I think back to my it even and in omar U-verse to breast 06:02.720 --> 06:04.160 in Omaha poor time to tear. 06:04.760 --> 06:07.360 Uh at the Afghan studies program me your nose been there for 06:07.360 --> 06:12.060 45 years working with upper. And fact pression dowdy mention. 06:12.060 --> 06:13.020 We first met him. 06:13.590 --> 06:17.880 A dad that he had known a time to tear back into tears into a 06:17.880 --> 06:21.670 17 years old so there's been this incredible commitment by the 06:21.670 --> 06:25.030 military obviously and yourself in your team and last of other 06:25.030 --> 06:27.670 people who are of that made this commitment. 06:28.200 --> 06:31.080 Here's my my question really new probably hatch of most of that 06:31.110 --> 06:33.860 that number one is there's a big difference in my mind between. 06:34.490 --> 06:38.890 A sunset sign. We're gonna be gone in a year or run at the Code 06:38.890 --> 06:42.140 is some number two year and will what you're tight talking about 06:42.140 --> 06:43.650 today which is a five year vision. 06:44.320 --> 06:48.140 Um to be here in you talk about a five your vision is a very 06:48.140 --> 06:52.430 refreshing thing. We were just ended NATO away back from a call 06:52.430 --> 06:55.750 States and the we're talking about the were saw conference and 06:55.940 --> 06:59.150 that the need for any of five your vision and Afghanistan. 07:00.710 --> 07:03.670 What what in your view would be those elements many of which 07:03.670 --> 07:06.690 you've already talked about an worked on there would be in a 07:06.690 --> 07:11.330 five your vision of what what would you see a five your vision 07:11.360 --> 07:13.150 and tailing and an optimum sons. 07:14.750 --> 07:17.500 Target and that are talk user just from the stern perspective 07:17.620 --> 07:19.490 and then we would work to. 07:20.140 --> 07:22.960 On different areas on the half castro's forces of build upon. 07:23.540 --> 07:25.600 The years and we knew they would have issues with that would 07:25.600 --> 07:28.250 take years to build on intelligence clusters pork about those 07:28.250 --> 07:30.770 kinds of things we've talked them past. But I think of five your 07:30.770 --> 07:34.950 vision really from from NATO the us are very working others not 07:34.950 --> 07:38.110 just the scattered piece involves a political dimension neck 07:38.110 --> 07:39.030 and amid the mention. 07:39.560 --> 07:42.850 Uh and I think that NATO was behind the broccoli poor working 07:42.850 --> 07:46.230 toward that as well the uprising Connie watch a continue to push 07:46.230 --> 07:47.920 a show of. 07:48.440 --> 07:51.080 Kremlin gone in that darker below Pres obama. 07:51.680 --> 07:54.750 The do pretty out of video teleconferences. I've been honored 07:54.750 --> 07:57.670 to have the up to me said knows with with the president. Uh is 07:57.670 --> 08:01.040 done solos in last 18 months they continue talk through what 08:01.040 --> 08:02.390 they need to do was I go for. 08:02.910 --> 08:05.180 I think those of convert hell for me and a. 08:05.720 --> 08:08.380 In a with present ghani. You did you have a commander-in-chief 08:08.570 --> 08:11.850 and a lot of things that he does again different from previous 08:11.980 --> 08:12.740 folks to order. 08:13.280 --> 08:17.940 Uh is trot a model lot ways to mourn on based on you know a um 08:18.000 --> 08:20.710 what he sees from United States. He considers us a foundation 08:20.710 --> 08:22.560 Parker not like we're gonna continue to provide. 08:23.270 --> 08:25.860 Of the ability to stay with them any understand said. 08:26.590 --> 08:28.030 He's not gonna try to do one thing. 08:28.670 --> 08:32.200 Uh that would didn't the way to do that he is getting after all 08:32.200 --> 08:33.820 thank you wanna get after crr option. 08:34.340 --> 08:37.960 I worked in gender integration issues a build an SUV lillian 08:37.960 --> 08:41.200 leadership bolan melik early perception uh uh think all those 08:41.200 --> 08:45.220 with going top of a strip of the planet before in an irate. 08:45.250 --> 08:47.890 It's exceptional what you'd be a little cup wish I wrote quite 08:47.890 --> 08:50.250 frankly because those are the omen. So we talked about a year 08:50.250 --> 08:53.460 ago and then there certainly are challenge this with with with 08:53.460 --> 08:57.510 action others of aromas here. But every one of those elements 08:57.540 --> 09:02.850 a were challenges and uh that was that to present daddy talk 09:02.850 --> 09:05.320 to us about and you've been able working with him. 09:05.960 --> 09:09.160 Uh and your team working with his team to the dance of all quite 09:09.160 --> 09:11.710 a bit in my view among the get all I can do is look a what I 09:11.710 --> 09:16.150 saw them win present dani. First got there and now and the other 09:16.150 --> 09:19.950 are challenges clearly up easily. But there are significant strides 09:19.950 --> 09:23.430 of the made and I did going down the checklist in and even expand 09:23.460 --> 09:24.070 the on that just. 09:24.590 --> 09:27.420 You know the issues involving the know present gonna talked about 09:27.420 --> 09:32.070 attitudes towards women a and I'm a you'd be you know i've I 09:32.070 --> 09:35.050 take debts clearly been an issue for him and all the same set 09:35.050 --> 09:39.340 that we're on the table needed to be addressed a one year ago 09:39.440 --> 09:43.530 a are being addressed uh and a very pasta fashion to take trevor 09:43.530 --> 09:47.270 a lot al-qaeda's MSN about mader extra yield that texture. 09:49.130 --> 09:52.230 Missed a phonics to thank you mister chairman. Thank you to know 09:52.230 --> 09:54.730 are campbell it's great to see you again. I had the opportunity 09:54.730 --> 09:58.430 to visit with few in november on a congressional delegation. 09:58.430 --> 10:02.130 I was able to visit with soldiers that I represents a leading 10:02.130 --> 10:05.730 a tense about division that for trauma I wanted to talk to you 10:05.730 --> 10:09.570 about its um in your testimony today you discussed. The fact 10:09.570 --> 10:12.720 that terrorist organizations are no longer sigh load that it's 10:12.720 --> 10:14.880 much more of a terrorist network. 10:15.590 --> 10:19.330 What extent is I escape E recruiting current and former members 10:19.330 --> 10:23.660 of the Taliban in your testimony lasts that a couple months ago 10:23.930 --> 10:27.640 USS that I escape E was evolving from a Sin to operationally 10:27.670 --> 10:31.620 a merchant how would she described that progress to day and how 10:31.620 --> 10:34.210 does that impact the security conditions on the ground. 10:35.840 --> 10:38.350 And thanks for the visit thanks for the great druckman vision 10:38.400 --> 10:40.260 you have to continue to ran there today. 10:40.970 --> 10:44.330 Um. Nope dilation um. 10:45.020 --> 10:48.770 Biased Cape eat continues to recruit and really started from 10:48.770 --> 10:49.730 in Afghanistan. 10:50.420 --> 10:53.450 Uh some franchise members of the titi peer the Pakistani tall 10:53.450 --> 10:57.160 of on power for the core and the senior leadership of I escape 10:57.160 --> 10:58.450 eat continue to come from. 10:58.980 --> 11:03.830 A T t-pain they have gained the um other members of a tall bonded 11:03.830 --> 11:05.880 may have become a um. 11:06.430 --> 11:09.800 That's eat the success of happen in the CERN iraq to see more 11:09.800 --> 11:12.330 money stay one to one something like that that they would use 11:12.330 --> 11:16.830 up to the benefit using a social media to recruit present ghani 11:16.830 --> 11:21.190 i7 pest talk about a all kind of being when those one point owned 11:21.190 --> 11:24.710 I spin new no wonder some point and when it comes to a social recruiting. 11:25.340 --> 11:29.920 Um. PS it has made a difference on the battlefield that continue 11:29.920 --> 11:33.390 to grow fed or a march time fram. I did cite nation to operation 11:33.390 --> 11:37.240 amercian is what I said backup probably continue to be about 11:37.240 --> 11:40.180 the same place. I don't think they have the ability today to 11:40.180 --> 11:43.780 attack the europe to attack call more and I think if left unchecked 11:43.780 --> 11:46.650 they would have that ability to have expressed but they one. 11:46.650 --> 11:50.020 Oh tack americans of a one attacked homeland and sure writhing 11:50.020 --> 11:52.550 and we can do the to mantra they can't do that you know we'll 11:52.590 --> 11:56.630 we'll we'll get after that the ability to to go after I sold 11:56.630 --> 11:59.830 was with them in the last we can after so the thing is maybe 11:59.860 --> 12:05.290 a no a significant impact on their leadership and on um the ability 12:05.290 --> 12:08.730 to continue to form and mango architect play auction and that 12:08.730 --> 12:10.050 ball it district of mango art. 12:10.610 --> 12:13.860 Um and we'll continue work that pieced with tall bottom the and 12:13.860 --> 12:17.250 dice fight each other or how far each other that has because 12:17.250 --> 12:19.840 a tall upon the move resources is I mention in the open steak 12:19.840 --> 12:23.140 and away from other is to fight. I swung mango are and that has 12:23.140 --> 12:26.510 an impact on the battlefield but delayed must make no doubt about it. 12:26.510 --> 12:29.560 They have expressed desire to attacked United States to kill 12:29.560 --> 12:31.440 americans contact europe. 12:31.980 --> 12:35.450 Uh uh they wanna do which happen in syria iraq and gain ground 12:35.790 --> 12:38.580 in Afghanistan they wanna take over chill Allah. But told the 12:38.580 --> 12:42.160 mckewan our problems to establish the The course on province 12:42.160 --> 12:45.570 witches Afghanistan part of Pakistan's central self asian show 12:45.710 --> 12:48.700 that knows no doubt. They wanna do that and they're gonna continue 12:48.700 --> 12:49.500 to work toward that. 12:50.090 --> 12:54.270 It is very hard. I think as we move forward a um to see the difference 12:54.270 --> 12:57.470 between the network south of all the terrorists um many of them 12:57.470 --> 13:02.020 provide different types of support the to each other a in many 13:02.020 --> 13:06.050 the uncovered ayers both in pakistan and Afghanistan and I think 13:06.110 --> 13:09.410 pakistan is to a lot of stuff in the last year for courageously 13:09.410 --> 13:12.970 from joel where he'll which you for me to to have techno operations 13:12.970 --> 13:13.820 in pakistan. 13:14.330 --> 13:16.390 Uh but the result of that is true from a lot of that industry 13:16.390 --> 13:19.070 and a Stan the Afghan forces to the deal with that as well so. 13:19.620 --> 13:22.400 The will will continue say after this but I sold no we have to 13:22.400 --> 13:25.850 continue her or I do I escape e-dice with the come to the key 13:25.850 --> 13:29.950 parchment or it will the Wall will grow to where we can I wanted 13:29.950 --> 13:30.240 to that. 13:31.220 --> 13:35.690 Thank you for that answer. I won a shift gears tear to you noted 13:35.690 --> 13:39.030 three capabilities logistics intelligence and close air support 13:39.320 --> 13:42.800 of that at the Afghan security forces need to further develop 13:43.110 --> 13:47.860 to new specifically. I'm discuss metrics in 26 team that you 13:47.860 --> 13:52.780 were looking for to seek improvements. I'm 80 you know what's 13:52.840 --> 13:55.480 civic are you looking for in this three capability serious. 13:56.070 --> 13:58.920 And a simple fines like a milligan were just six while I'm now 13:58.920 --> 14:02.480 they have everett 80 Afghans asked me for more of this more of 14:02.480 --> 14:06.110 that certain leadership down at a lower levels and they have 14:06.510 --> 14:09.150 they have the equipment they have the ammunition it's a matter 14:09.150 --> 14:12.190 of leadership which of matter supply distribution tour taken 14:12.190 --> 14:16.160 a holistic look at the entire supply system on how we can make 14:16.160 --> 14:20.250 it easier for them. The to be applied in the right to logistic 14:20.250 --> 14:23.170 support for all their forces there we'd sometimes what what we 14:23.170 --> 14:26.370 do is we don't window plays when mecca too hard. We impose our 14:26.370 --> 14:29.950 systems and processes and we find out that another just like 14:29.950 --> 14:33.460 capable of having the same type the system to we after just not 14:33.460 --> 14:35.880 everybody in Afghanistan or can read or write not everybody in 14:35.880 --> 14:39.790 Afghanistan has ability to get on a computer have all the religious 14:39.790 --> 14:45.190 six supplies a. And move of religious and spies based on a on 14:45.490 --> 14:48.250 that network that we have that we have earning a States all we 14:48.250 --> 14:51.290 have to adjust my and what I tell our weisz all a time is keep 14:51.290 --> 14:54.740 it simple. You know do everything we can to keep that sample 14:55.050 --> 14:57.710 to many areas are we tell we're doing a good job where to go 14:57.710 --> 15:00.630 back and asked or sell chanel was up right where to do it was 15:00.630 --> 15:02.950 just six is a harder about a thing supple things like. 15:03.480 --> 15:07.100 Taking which issued from point a getting at the point the getting 15:07.100 --> 15:10.020 it to the people on the ground as a pretty simplistic measure 15:10.020 --> 15:13.200 but that much more look another closer. So pork detroit about 15:13.200 --> 15:17.190 gaining the ability to fly uh uh both day and night. We gotta 15:17.190 --> 15:21.610 continue work 2016 as a as a human fly at night is conveyed are 15:21.610 --> 15:24.910 from poor cousins we go for and the intelligence place. I fight 15:24.940 --> 15:26.210 in the intelligence arena. 15:26.740 --> 15:29.850 A having an continue to build upon em odeon allies and ds are 15:29.850 --> 15:32.910 into ensued working together take a look from the strategic love 15:32.910 --> 15:35.190 all would I'm the type of what what that mike a big difference. 15:35.190 --> 15:38.600 If they formed a fusion sell a really the sure that that never 15:38.600 --> 15:41.530 have intel fusion shell of a strategic level and the starting 15:41.530 --> 15:44.290 a record defra spell to take strategic intelligence from all 15:44.290 --> 15:47.470 the different Schuster and pump set out to the special offering 15:47.470 --> 15:50.420 for social like across kicker missed. My finger punch. 15:52.010 --> 15:53.020 Over my camille back. 15:54.210 --> 15:58.930 Molten. Let's say to stirred in and jennifer site is wanna join 15:58.930 --> 16:01.870 mister give since so many others who have thank you for your 16:01.870 --> 16:06.070 service of there are are very few people who have to make daily 16:06.070 --> 16:10.390 life and death decisions and are fundamentally in a very direct 16:10.390 --> 16:15.960 way responsible a four of the survival and success of our nation's 16:16.000 --> 16:18.700 most precious assets young americans to fight. 16:19.280 --> 16:21.990 The from lawrence certainly none of us on this side of the room 16:22.020 --> 16:25.360 have that direct response believe it. You do and I can say it 16:25.360 --> 16:26.250 they you'll we. Messed. 16:29.060 --> 16:32.650 What I go back to a common she made about making sure that a 16:32.880 --> 16:35.720 26teen is not a re run of 20 fifteen. 16:36.920 --> 16:42.650 My personal concern is that a even even more broadly vat a 26teen 16:42.870 --> 16:48.260 or 27 to 28een becomes a re run of the 2010 the 2013 period. 16:48.260 --> 16:52.980 We saw in iraq where things really fell apart and I and I think 16:52.980 --> 16:56.740 of that game the sometimes see in in bars where there's that 16:56.740 --> 16:59.640 it's called jang de and there's a Piles sex. 17:00.460 --> 17:03.560 It will happen in iraq is we had this nice pile the we constructed 17:04.010 --> 17:07.770 at the cost of a lot of time and a lot of American lives and 17:07.770 --> 17:10.780 the enemies a rocket america work steadily pulling out. 17:12.000 --> 17:13.250 Just one stick at a time. 17:14.120 --> 17:17.190 We were standing fart of back there. We could still say look 17:17.190 --> 17:19.420 it looks like a great tower. In fact a steven getting a little 17:19.420 --> 17:22.850 the higher as that holistic out and put back on top but a some 17:22.850 --> 17:24.320 point the whole thing collapse. 17:25.190 --> 17:29.020 And my concern is that there's a lot of evidence out there despite 17:29.020 --> 17:33.020 the the up admirable progress see you've made the things in Afghanistan art. 17:33.610 --> 17:35.990 Getting batter in fact they might be getting older workers. 17:37.170 --> 17:40.340 I'm unconcerned that the a now all due to differences the you 17:40.340 --> 17:43.950 describe between iraq and Afghanistan are really so stark. 17:44.600 --> 17:47.450 A beer an awful lot of are rocky readers who wanted us to stay 17:47.450 --> 17:49.950 in the country. There is just one guy at the top who did not. 17:50.450 --> 17:52.930 That's a very now the situation to that the Prom we have with 17:52.930 --> 17:55.920 car sign. If present danis not there and the future. We could 17:55.920 --> 17:56.890 see that probably get. 17:57.450 --> 18:00.350 A there are a lot of uh there is a lot of sectarian ISM an iraq. 18:00.380 --> 18:04.120 I also knew new army units that were very non sectarian and we're 18:04.120 --> 18:06.000 very committed to the national unity government. 18:07.040 --> 18:11.270 There were also stories a tremendous stories Iraqi army success. 18:11.900 --> 18:15.510 Up despite the well-publicized failures and indeed the same is 18:15.510 --> 18:19.200 true and Afghanistan but what happened in iraq is not that the 18:19.300 --> 18:22.780 that that date dash came in in just over ran the Iraqi armed. 18:23.380 --> 18:26.720 Iraqi army put their weapons data what home because they'll last 18:26.720 --> 18:29.540 face in their government because when they looked at that power. 18:30.230 --> 18:31.130 In a collapse. 18:32.220 --> 18:35.820 Now you mention in Afghanistan today that it's not just our troops 18:35.820 --> 18:38.720 on the front lines but these advisers in the ministries to people 18:38.720 --> 18:41.970 for working on Afghan governments to make sure that that doesn't 18:41.970 --> 18:45.710 happen in Afghanistan but if you look it up the progress with 18:45.710 --> 18:48.170 the Afghan government we've gone from approval ratings in the 18:48.170 --> 18:52.070 seventies to will uh reese insurv away survey that had approval 18:52.070 --> 18:54.140 ratings in a six to 8% range. 18:55.070 --> 18:58.540 Jim very concerned that we're gonna see a repeat of our rock 18:58.730 --> 19:01.010 2010 acute that thousand thirteen. 19:01.760 --> 19:05.320 In Afghanistan over the next three years to what do we need to 19:05.320 --> 19:07.540 do differently. If you Cayman testified. 19:08.190 --> 19:09.840 To us that everything was. 19:10.420 --> 19:13.960 Just five in maintained weird maintain the status quo that it 19:13.960 --> 19:17.950 seems like a good response. So that would be to people are forces 19:17.950 --> 19:18.790 at the same level. 19:19.780 --> 19:22.830 And at the two choices on the table art keeping of the same level 19:22.950 --> 19:25.590 or reducing them. What it seems like an may measures in many 19:25.590 --> 19:28.430 ways things are actually getting worse. So what do you think 19:28.430 --> 19:32.240 that we need to do differently. So that we can make positive 19:32.240 --> 19:35.640 forward progress adjust on the military front but on the political 19:35.640 --> 19:38.920 front with the Afghan government stew would oh see things sliding 19:38.920 --> 19:42.820 back more sticks being told out in someday. We do see the tower. Collapse. 19:44.850 --> 19:46.510 Truth action question um. 19:47.310 --> 19:50.030 I spell autumn approaching gonna darker brolin numb. 19:50.690 --> 19:54.030 Uh has does de and dash mccann like a a from the industry. 19:54.910 --> 19:58.110 Agree partnership together a domonic's or to work with them. 19:58.790 --> 20:02.300 I know that 30 image than a lot of time together they're going 20:02.300 --> 20:05.390 after their jack question talked about talking depression can about. 20:06.080 --> 20:09.950 Um. Things that he could do to help manage better inside the 20:09.950 --> 20:13.870 government working with doctor below and other they both a um. 20:14.600 --> 20:17.490 Understand helm Portman is to keep a national Kermit together. 20:17.610 --> 20:19.340 I do believe a. 20:19.930 --> 20:22.640 They both won a continue to keep the national government together 20:22.640 --> 20:25.850 despite all the other distract as around them despite pretty. 20:26.390 --> 20:29.720 Pretty Nova lock a better come the opposition groups over starting 20:29.720 --> 20:30.810 the form the water. 20:31.350 --> 20:34.500 Wanna take away from the uprising guy your take away a doctor 20:34.500 --> 20:38.200 below a lot of that quite frankly is cheers um. So politically 20:38.200 --> 20:42.360 placed an constituencies in because turn groups haven't had been 20:42.360 --> 20:46.150 given a minister a job or governorship are support that joel 20:46.150 --> 20:49.050 sought out of time. But if you could continue on the on the record 20:49.370 --> 20:52.090 for one we in United States could be doing differently. 20:52.790 --> 20:56.440 To improve the situation to make sure that the progress we make 20:56.440 --> 20:59.740 is greater than the progress. We've seen over the past year a 20:59.800 --> 21:02.740 of very much pre show dash one. Thank you mister radio. Back. 21:05.210 --> 21:05.860 Talk which trip. 21:06.830 --> 21:08.940 A commission chairman Gerald thank-you ul. 21:09.560 --> 21:12.310 Echo with the others it said I think you for your service. 21:12.310 --> 21:14.490 I know know that the most people in the country. 21:15.010 --> 21:18.940 To really understand um. What you have done and what many others 21:18.940 --> 21:22.830 like you have have done to serve this country and it it's appreciated. 21:23.340 --> 21:26.400 You you mention many are we reached the reese liking the authority 21:26.400 --> 21:30.620 to strike it that that dash what we don't before that when when 21:30.620 --> 21:33.980 they were on the move more threat had the G handles backed. 21:35.180 --> 21:38.410 Truth there are a threat man. We knew there for up to attacking 21:38.410 --> 21:41.090 coalition than I would have that miller provide that forced protection 21:41.090 --> 21:41.720 of which try from. 21:43.150 --> 21:46.710 But only in a defensive posture or trawl. If I knew there are 21:46.710 --> 21:47.980 gonna track coalition answer. 21:48.680 --> 21:53.140 Um you mention the capability gap that exists today a it did 21:53.260 --> 21:56.390 and that the deficiencies it to see if they were they need our 21:56.390 --> 22:00.940 help and What do you see as a time frame for those. 22:01.460 --> 22:05.850 Capabilities being fulfilled amino. We tie in 20 years which 22:05.880 --> 22:08.640 you know you mentioned to learn 40 years for us and eight years 22:08.640 --> 22:12.970 for them is a big difference. Right tell a DC them trending towards 22:12.970 --> 22:16.470 that and having the capability those capability someday dropping 22:16.470 --> 22:20.210 eerie every areas different coptic aviation because it's so it's 22:20.430 --> 22:23.850 a museum to look at outside it's from a tight no shot. We won't 22:23.850 --> 22:27.320 even get the last for aircraft that there were working poor to probably. 22:27.830 --> 22:31.030 Two thousand 18 time friend show your work we're talking to three 22:31.030 --> 22:32.160 more years just to get. 22:32.690 --> 22:35.840 The that aircraft and that time frame in aircraft could that 22:35.840 --> 22:39.100 be it have issues with main ince could've belt amazon on an arm 22:39.570 --> 22:42.570 but the human capital of billing or pile us for years and years 22:42.600 --> 22:46.010 your your struck that now on mix for their relies fewer pretty good. 22:46.010 --> 22:49.200 Now you not to see him for another three or four he can be of 22:49.260 --> 22:54.040 a pilot. So aviation is area the skin takers longtime uh a savoy 22:54.040 --> 22:57.210 years to get them to where the their use to you know one one 22:57.210 --> 23:00.670 we won out to as a as a force we show them we would never go 23:00.670 --> 23:05.380 out unless we have a isr us we that the attack helicopters all 23:05.380 --> 23:08.860 the enablers a period has a took over the country dated have 23:08.860 --> 23:11.470 all of those a neighbors all that support short we're working 23:11.470 --> 23:15.180 to that to build a sport for them the but again the taught but 23:15.180 --> 23:17.250 none have a law that either and we gotta make sure that that 23:17.250 --> 23:20.260 on with a tall barbers was 10 feet tall sir talked about in the 23:20.460 --> 23:24.010 next to them. So is that the capability think will take the longest 23:24.010 --> 23:26.930 his aviation uh. I think deviation probably they're a little 23:26.930 --> 23:29.260 Tyco longish. Mr. Bucket. Thank you I go. Back. 23:32.260 --> 23:34.040 The. Sure. 23:36.950 --> 23:40.120 Guinness church lemon a gentle. Thank you for your testimony 23:40.120 --> 23:44.270 for your service and for poston so many of us to add a visitor 23:44.270 --> 23:47.530 you in service members to serve under you and in Afghanistan 23:47.530 --> 23:48.770 and. Um. 23:52.010 --> 23:55.270 The the primary goals. I understand it in terms of our efforts 23:55.270 --> 23:58.830 in Afghanistan is to event that country from ever again becoming 23:58.830 --> 24:03.700 a place. From which Terrorists or those who do us harm could 24:03.700 --> 24:07.030 launch attacks against United States that makes a lot of sense 24:07.030 --> 24:11.620 to me a and again I think you and those who serve under you for 24:11.880 --> 24:13.960 your success a to date. 24:14.750 --> 24:19.920 That the secondary goals are harder for me to to follow a you 24:19.920 --> 24:22.890 mentioned kind of a negative way one of the goals is not that 24:22.890 --> 24:26.340 is not to perpetuate it be stalemate. You don't want to see that. 24:26.900 --> 24:32.260 Continued. Up and yet. I am unclear a at this point. 24:34.000 --> 24:36.220 As to what we will do too. 24:36.950 --> 24:41.660 Prevent that from happening this this uh in definite stalemate. 24:42.490 --> 24:45.760 And what we're willing to do to help the Afghanistan national 24:45.790 --> 24:48.220 governments should it fail. 24:48.730 --> 24:51.130 To prevail against the Taliban. 24:51.800 --> 24:56.360 Um it minor Steny is we're not at war today with the Taliban. 24:57.010 --> 25:01.140 Uh and my understanding is that uh we have a train advise and 25:01.140 --> 25:06.730 assist function. We don't have an active combat function a against 25:06.730 --> 25:08.480 the Taliban um. 25:09.050 --> 25:11.970 You've made a great case as to why of it. 25:12.960 --> 25:16.720 We might want to understand the Afghan national army PS performance 25:16.720 --> 25:18.930 in the perspective a bully having been stood up for the last 25:19.030 --> 25:23.380 seven years that there will me to be some on-going us commitment 25:23.770 --> 25:25.660 to you have any thoughts about what. 25:26.300 --> 25:30.640 We is policymakers should be willing to commit to shoot the Afghan 25:30.640 --> 25:33.480 national army not succeed in. 25:33.990 --> 25:37.470 Holding back talibans advances whether they're in kandahar can 25:37.500 --> 25:40.170 use a or elsewhere in the country. 25:41.990 --> 25:45.310 Sheree are actually right on nowhere to him toward a narrow mission 25:45.310 --> 25:48.620 said it's kinda terrorism under martin more us have the trend 25:48.620 --> 25:51.750 of eyes incest and um I us supply and when NATO that. 25:52.450 --> 25:56.070 And I do believe that we have to continue to build upon the F 25:56.070 --> 25:59.810 can't in the capabilities to get after C T which are one two 26:00.210 --> 26:03.230 and a tramp lies and says to his of are important piece to build 26:03.230 --> 26:04.680 their their their kick bolder. 26:05.630 --> 26:10.900 Um. But I thank you to go for what commerce can do is which you 26:10.900 --> 26:15.680 have done for was 14 15 years is continues pork a campaign by approving. 26:16.250 --> 26:19.000 A money by approving the bill are deferring are great men and 26:19.000 --> 26:22.160 women over Afghanistan by providing equipment for providing. 26:22.790 --> 26:25.850 A um you know the scored the way that that's made a huge difference 26:25.850 --> 26:27.700 an we've always said that continued support. 26:28.340 --> 26:30.960 And a new thing we should look like go. 26:31.830 --> 26:33.580 Unnoticed but a but I do think that. 26:34.210 --> 26:34.750 The um. 26:35.420 --> 26:37.390 Like I go back to this is a generational. 26:38.050 --> 26:42.640 Struggle. Hand too many times we think that we can get this done 26:42.670 --> 26:46.360 very very quick word and number Ahmed telly um and than most 26:46.360 --> 26:47.780 for military commanders were to. 26:48.380 --> 26:51.570 Then we have to have some strategic creations and we have to 26:51.570 --> 26:52.440 have the ability. 26:52.950 --> 26:54.940 To always assess where we're going. 26:55.490 --> 26:58.000 Handy older than the military to lessons learned all time and 26:58.000 --> 27:00.660 then travel earned learn from those in and i've done the base 27:00.660 --> 27:04.110 on me last fighting season and I think are smit justice. We have 27:04.110 --> 27:08.540 to mixture that we propose to but I have proposed a senior leadership 27:08.540 --> 27:11.710 that will move forward and and mixing decisions. I think for 27:11.710 --> 27:15.830 continued modest investment in Afghanistan the second order impact 27:15.830 --> 27:19.110 of not have another nine 11 his book is a pretty victory or to 27:19.110 --> 27:23.080 be will provide deaf can force continued growth mr. To quit it's 27:23.080 --> 27:27.110 a place away to know so little c'est about conditionality about 27:27.110 --> 27:32.010 setting benchmarks that the Afghanistan national government has 27:32.010 --> 27:36.000 to meet in order for us to continue or increase support because 27:36.000 --> 27:39.210 of the primary mission will one we will never allow Afghanistan 27:39.210 --> 27:43.380 began uh uh to become the it launching pad for attacks against 27:43.380 --> 27:46.590 United States. They know be Afghanistan national government an 27:46.590 --> 27:51.250 knows that so that it's it's very hard for us to follow through 27:51.640 --> 27:55.820 a on that you know implied threat that the few do not do the 27:55.820 --> 28:00.710 following thanks a leading in the fight performing and your government's 28:00.940 --> 28:03.240 uh we will not be there for you won't we are going to be there 28:03.520 --> 28:06.680 uh to ensure that we do not have about that threat again. 28:07.250 --> 28:10.580 Um so might my question la goes back to what should we is Paulson 28:10.580 --> 28:12.010 makers which of the American public. 28:12.520 --> 28:15.070 To setter expectations be ready to do if. 28:15.770 --> 28:20.060 The modest changes perhaps a modest increases in funding don't 28:20.060 --> 28:24.130 get the job don and we see it a another significant city fall 28:24.160 --> 28:27.640 even temporarily to tell them or for longer curry to time should 28:27.640 --> 28:30.080 we be thinking about what's um. 28:30.710 --> 28:33.710 Tension going to war again against the Taliban wars are some 28:33.710 --> 28:37.280 other strategy. If the current status quo was summer find the 28:37.280 --> 28:40.030 doesn't work a relies amount of time mister charman. So I may 28:40.030 --> 28:43.400 have to take that for the record to the title record but no one 28:43.400 --> 28:45.810 one to talk about efron as you know what to the killer way out 28:45.810 --> 28:49.110 of the surface disowned for some form a political settlement 28:49.160 --> 28:52.500 reconciliation Afghans want to go that way prison colony is leading 28:52.500 --> 28:55.950 that effort nothing Cairo and all the countries around and talk 28:55.950 --> 28:58.380 about pakistan china has teach poor gotta from. 28:59.090 --> 29:01.330 Uh and and that is a way to go to continue move for. 29:02.030 --> 29:03.750 Ex. Just like sellick. 29:04.730 --> 29:08.170 My name's chairman and my gonna go of what many my colleagues 29:08.170 --> 29:10.640 a seven thank you so much for your service it was also great 29:10.640 --> 29:11.990 to be zero mbeki may. 29:12.560 --> 29:15.520 An seating credible leadership that your providing in any definitely 29:15.520 --> 29:20.030 mummy mast um as we talk about the strategy um that we've had 29:20.030 --> 29:23.910 from a the last several years of your ranting up dannis of capability 29:23.910 --> 29:25.600 and ranting down our capability. 29:26.120 --> 29:28.930 Scenes of happen on the ground. But you've clearly stated them. 29:28.960 --> 29:31.780 It's very obvious that that didn't happen with the air capabilities 29:32.090 --> 29:36.050 so for whatever reason I decisions are made that uh we were basin 29:36.050 --> 29:39.030 and a call back on our air power capabilities to include those 29:39.030 --> 29:41.460 you mentioned it whether that's air strikes in using air power 29:41.760 --> 29:45.170 I E the on its own are close air support nice art. 29:45.770 --> 29:48.480 Before they have the capability rant up and that's creating a 29:48.480 --> 29:51.670 huge gap that you mentioned new testimony today. So I know you're 29:52.090 --> 29:54.790 not gonna do this in to decide on that but let's just imagine 29:54.830 --> 29:58.370 you know should a decision be changes that we would again provide 29:58.670 --> 30:03.240 American our coalition NATO air power air strikes against the 30:03.240 --> 30:06.860 enemy a which she's a laid out the networks of the enemy and 30:06.860 --> 30:11.360 close air support to um that are supporting a coalition partners 30:11.360 --> 30:14.850 on the ground like we did after a nine 11 and like we're doing 30:14.850 --> 30:19.140 other places the world. What would that due to change that dynamics 30:19.140 --> 30:22.860 to create the space. So there could be a political solution and 30:22.860 --> 30:24.880 they in assaf could continue to grow acute. Ability. 30:27.340 --> 30:30.530 Question and not or try to do is Medicaid on the ground. 30:30.530 --> 30:33.670 How we can work work toward the by providing them other ways 30:33.670 --> 30:34.820 ticket after that same. 30:35.490 --> 30:39.380 Um Prom show. So let us a tomorrow we gave you come or squadrons 30:39.380 --> 30:42.390 as as take aircraft in the authorities to be a that actually 30:42.390 --> 30:45.150 strike provide plus escort isr like just but with that but with 30:45.150 --> 30:48.020 that do think which a menace the towns of your get knitwear desert. 30:48.020 --> 30:49.710 Of course just mannam um. 30:50.300 --> 30:53.280 There are we got to really work there titi pays cement through 30:53.280 --> 30:56.200 the weekend the engine a which very Cardona shoe up people on 30:56.200 --> 30:58.060 the ground applied for slice. 30:58.580 --> 31:01.820 A direction that that that torture gonna have to we got to really 31:01.820 --> 31:02.630 work through. 31:03.140 --> 31:06.040 That the techniques tactics and procedures that we would use 31:06.040 --> 31:09.060 and sometimes in some cases the may take more resources of people 31:09.330 --> 31:12.250 in some areas as you train the Afghan to be able to that interact 31:12.710 --> 31:15.710 uh it you could you could reduce step for a so I mean we're looking 31:15.710 --> 31:19.450 hard at that we do continue provide training weisz a setep clove 31:19.450 --> 31:22.180 what a special authoring forces were trying to build who are 31:22.180 --> 31:24.770 billing their jay track capability on the special operations 31:24.770 --> 31:28.120 tiger can a builder jerry tactical it on the conventional side is. 31:28.120 --> 31:29.600 Well modeling interact with. 31:30.260 --> 31:34.060 Of they're closures poor platforms. But if you just needed to 31:34.390 --> 31:36.830 understand other nations' second provides poured. Great. 31:36.830 --> 31:39.810 Thanks you know similarly a talked about the uh uh the network 31:39.810 --> 31:42.380 of the different terrorist organizations and how they're intertwined 31:42.810 --> 31:45.670 on the challenges with authorities. So again less to say tomorrow 31:45.670 --> 31:49.030 there was a decision that you know I have the authority of we 31:49.030 --> 31:51.690 still have the P I'd be in the CD year Carter's. But you had 31:51.690 --> 31:54.230 the authority to strike any those networks and singing a map 31:54.230 --> 31:57.430 as a decree teary at what would that do to change the situation 31:57.460 --> 32:00.520 and brown and strategically. Yeah I know I don't have to make 32:00.520 --> 32:03.790 I called based on resources should appear some up to her target 32:03.790 --> 32:04.450 is written for. 32:05.010 --> 32:09.550 That we're we're able to get the I sold by a shtick up Doherty 32:09.900 --> 32:13.010 and not taking more resources but the same time continued to 32:13.180 --> 32:15.910 to the great that net-net were with of tech are look at how we 32:15.910 --> 32:19.130 would do that the other networks of if we're the changing of order. 32:19.130 --> 32:23.210 So again some some we would have to probably a traditional resources mother's. 32:23.210 --> 32:26.340 We would not the one resource that in bring up another question 32:26.340 --> 32:30.380 asked rulers are sore known every that commander become an undercurrent 32:30.780 --> 32:34.370 as an insatiable appetite for on shore and do we have the same 32:34.370 --> 32:37.600 thing Afghanistan we are billing the Afghan Cape poet. The sheer 32:37.910 --> 32:39.640 to have their own full motion video. 32:40.220 --> 32:44.690 Uh and this can until an Arch our platform sharpness can be like 32:44.690 --> 32:47.560 you're the second time take great of last question is where iraq 32:47.560 --> 32:51.530 98 on the main again. That's just and directed a with the direction 32:51.610 --> 32:55.930 to from a Magician term ran down to 50 500 for 27teen but it's 32:55.930 --> 32:59.180 also stars to be conditions base I'm now sound collection on 32:59.180 --> 33:02.470 our gun every new commander-in-chief I in january uh. I just 33:02.470 --> 33:05.840 pitching china re deploy squadrons that potentially with a new 33:05.840 --> 33:08.210 commander-in-chief there could be change in that direction. 33:08.210 --> 33:11.520 We could be ramping up and Additional resources in order to add 33:11.800 --> 33:14.820 a address said in a strategic long-haul that when you to have 33:14.820 --> 33:19.840 a or a imagining day this sort of a a store term we to claiming 33:19.840 --> 33:23.310 and then the plan back again when it make more sand sad to just 33:23.310 --> 33:25.910 kinda stabilize where we are and that the next commander-in-chief. 33:26.420 --> 33:29.160 Um make their assessments as opposed to ranting down than and 33:29.160 --> 33:31.770 potentially and change in direction to some inefficiencies point 33:31.770 --> 33:34.920 of view of the plea I'd units. It would be modern re. Deployments. 33:37.160 --> 33:40.940 If there was a decision ago from 50 500 back up to whatever number no. 33:40.970 --> 33:43.840 I'm dexter sometime. I actually fewer already on the ground you 33:43.950 --> 33:47.170 you have equipment that I think that the decision october of 33:47.170 --> 33:50.070 was pressure the prison bomb a made forget I talked in terms of. 33:50.740 --> 33:54.890 A non mr. The numbers but the capabilities to what more we uh 33:54.970 --> 33:58.540 that I welcome there was the nation's jukebox orange a lot of 33:58.540 --> 34:02.020 kandahar the kiva see opportunity provide Flex believe options 34:02.020 --> 34:05.400 for a few too efficient. Great. Thanks. Thanks acer a sedan and 34:05.400 --> 34:06.040 the the aback. 34:07.940 --> 34:12.110 To. The famous a chairman uh engine campbell one to ask you specifically 34:12.110 --> 34:14.550 about fia. I'm about to be in a truss fun. 34:15.150 --> 34:20.530 And Power farm to the future. Do you see the U.S. investing a 34:20.560 --> 34:21.950 in buttress cotton. 34:22.680 --> 34:25.910 And then to and and the what level one to ask you like is it 34:25.950 --> 34:27.010 the of the see it. 34:27.650 --> 34:31.210 A gradually ya going down over certain about um or do you think 34:31.210 --> 34:34.610 that as far as as being committed to this fight to make sure 34:34.610 --> 34:38.880 that that we have that we have some stores stability it and uh 34:39.140 --> 34:42.540 and Afghanistan that there be a certain level of of stability 34:42.540 --> 34:43.110 of the funding. 34:44.120 --> 34:47.220 Traffic for all the different funding streams a come in Afghanistan 34:47.220 --> 34:49.260 whether sir and a truss fun loft the. 34:49.830 --> 34:53.630 A pure us money that we provide that all of those were looking 34:53.630 --> 34:56.710 to bring them down over time as we get more for but we have to 34:56.710 --> 34:59.800 make the Afghans kurdish forces more formal more efficient and 34:59.800 --> 35:03.470 more sustainable. And we continue looking ways. We can do that 35:03.470 --> 35:06.520 char see all the money is forces coming and all the donor nations 35:06.520 --> 35:10.090 continue to one credit bring that down I think over time at least 35:10.510 --> 35:14.580 a 2000 some to making 19 and 20 as we do is to move toward Warsaw 35:14.580 --> 35:17.460 wanna keep it up the the funding levels are were about right now. 35:18.720 --> 35:22.930 And to and lois wishing there was a as skew was of about the 35:22.930 --> 35:27.030 draw bound a let as it was stated that earlier acrowley that 35:27.110 --> 35:32.870 word the Jordan by the end of a 2016 what about 50 500 military personnel. 35:33.580 --> 35:38.330 And I was rescued about the place mandy still anticipate placing 35:38.330 --> 35:41.780 a presents in the south and east of Afghanistan. 35:43.120 --> 35:46.560 Puerperal we have a forces in their use in the south when the 35:46.560 --> 35:49.910 under the 50 500 will continue the forces in the nation selfish or. 35:50.540 --> 35:51.930 Thank you mister Mario back. 35:54.190 --> 35:56.720 Russia. But in the german. 35:58.470 --> 36:02.340 Engine trouble tons freer decades and the fence to our republic 36:02.780 --> 36:05.100 do in the hardest things said our nation asks. 36:05.930 --> 36:11.020 Also thank you for your persevere ince when we inadvertently. Obstructed. 36:12.800 --> 36:13.380 I'd like to. 36:13.890 --> 36:18.560 A quote from from some opponents slip them in the American efforts 36:18.590 --> 36:19.180 in the war. 36:20.610 --> 36:24.330 We have got into a masham acquired meyer from which each step 36:24.790 --> 36:27.040 render is the difficulty of extraction. 36:27.620 --> 36:28.590 Immediately greater. 36:29.310 --> 36:31.740 I'm sure I wish I could see what we were getting out of it. 36:33.200 --> 36:34.800 The quote was from 19 hundred. 36:35.360 --> 36:36.280 October sixth. 36:37.130 --> 36:42.170 American efforts in the philippines 14 year issue 40 500 dead 36:42.270 --> 36:43.480 20000 wounded. 36:44.630 --> 36:45.430 This body. 36:46.320 --> 36:50.090 Repeatedly yes military leaders. Why are we there. What are we 36:50.090 --> 36:51.500 doing what is the point. 36:52.230 --> 36:52.740 And yet. 36:53.560 --> 36:57.350 At the end of that another three decades of commitment or we 36:57.350 --> 37:00.960 were willing. To build their infrastructure help their people. 37:01.770 --> 37:05.775 Graft and the main issue have independence and although the 19 37:05.775 --> 37:07.410 44 date of complete. 37:08.030 --> 37:12.100 A independence was an erupted by will more to was restored two 37:12.100 --> 37:13.470 years after the end of the war. 37:14.240 --> 37:15.710 The became a crucial ally. 37:17.210 --> 37:21.150 There to became a vital strategic prediction platform in all 37:21.150 --> 37:24.810 of our efforts in the pacific and today they're a top 50 economy. 37:25.500 --> 37:28.810 The provides much of our clothing and furniture in the United States. 37:29.730 --> 37:30.600 Hard the city. 37:31.600 --> 37:33.730 Hard for these opposed years to see that. 37:34.520 --> 37:38.420 And yet it was a commitment of American service personnel. 37:39.080 --> 37:39.810 Made it happen. 37:41.100 --> 37:45.920 I'd sit here. So what I'm used as a veteran of iraq and Afghanistan 37:45.920 --> 37:50.600 listening to much of the Discussion the debate about Afghan security 37:50.600 --> 37:54.060 forces and their ability to control most of the nation. 37:55.070 --> 37:58.460 My efforts with the Afghan security forces was zero. 37:59.330 --> 38:00.750 When we were chris to para. 38:01.320 --> 38:05.890 Un third special forces in the spring of 2002 to create a vision 38:05.890 --> 38:07.540 in an effort that would give us later. 38:08.240 --> 38:11.630 A from being a delegate in an Afghan the security conference 38:11.890 --> 38:14.570 and getting commitments from partner nations around the world. 38:15.260 --> 38:18.520 So that we can see this day where we were having debates about. 38:18.550 --> 38:22.110 Well they don't use communication very well than they don't have 38:22.110 --> 38:25.050 their logistics to of what a great problem to have. 38:25.620 --> 38:29.110 An thank you surf for your efforts in continuing that in making 38:29.110 --> 38:30.050 so much for that have. 38:31.340 --> 38:35.030 My colleagues us questions about the expensive that. 38:36.150 --> 38:36.780 And yet. 38:37.400 --> 38:40.690 Our us a question how much is a failed state worse. 38:42.170 --> 38:47.170 Section 69 one in 10 where many of my friends are buried than yours. 38:47.930 --> 38:49.070 What about their commitment. 38:49.660 --> 38:50.940 Not their. Politics. 38:52.750 --> 38:56.330 And in iraq was for more costly even head we remain committed they're. 38:57.590 --> 38:59.930 We created a situation where. 39:01.200 --> 39:05.020 Or we failed to laid tie wrenching regional destabilize. Ruse filled. 39:05.020 --> 39:07.600 The void millions have been displaced. 39:08.180 --> 39:09.570 Ices has a standard. 39:10.200 --> 39:13.620 And human suffering one. I barbaric scale hasn't been. 39:14.190 --> 39:15.920 Reintroduced a man time. 39:17.250 --> 39:19.600 So I guess by question to do. 39:20.600 --> 39:22.440 Would be 25 years from now. 39:23.600 --> 39:26.960 What would in your estimation Afghanistan and the regional look 39:26.960 --> 39:28.690 like with our partnership. 39:29.270 --> 39:31.950 And what would it look like with our abandon. That. 39:35.180 --> 39:38.330 Darken former sharpen long term commitment for five years from 39:38.330 --> 39:41.020 now Nakhon tech much and with Afghanistan and those of. 39:41.610 --> 39:44.450 All those places that so members a talk about the word. 39:44.990 --> 39:47.710 That like or shoot bombing and then the mounds of and depression 39:47.710 --> 39:50.310 on and on the third have a government that is for the people. 39:50.840 --> 39:54.180 Uh that have the Afghan people work and that of and all the women 39:54.180 --> 39:57.030 and children them wanted to go dollar mope boys and girls wanted 39:57.030 --> 40:00.120 her school could go to school on an on they have the same vision 40:00.120 --> 40:02.450 that there are pretty here in the us watch for through further 40:02.450 --> 40:05.280 men and women and that will happen. That's three every walter 40:05.280 --> 40:08.590 Pittman that can a miniature talk them. That's free. We don't 40:08.590 --> 40:09.580 continue provide. 40:10.140 --> 40:14.320 Perspiration time for them to grow that ability to sustain a 40:14.320 --> 40:17.620 a poker economy and their gnash purity the they won't get to 40:17.620 --> 40:19.010 that so the um. 40:19.530 --> 40:22.200 You know I'm I'm personal investment or Afghanistan my family 40:22.200 --> 40:25.720 is a men women and inch around with. Plus 14 years and then I 40:25.720 --> 40:29.110 do think you know we gotta talking or our definition time their 40:29.110 --> 40:31.410 definition time of two different things as a bunch of pointed out. 40:31.990 --> 40:33.650 We haven't we gotta stare for the long haul water. 40:34.380 --> 40:36.590 Take a joke able to to miss chairman ideal. But. 40:39.780 --> 40:40.190 It's. Ground. 40:43.190 --> 40:47.240 As chairman I'm kinky general or for sadat had is a lot of it 40:47.240 --> 40:50.150 not to a to were prettier but i've heard such amazing things 40:50.150 --> 40:53.130 about your service. So I wanna. Add to that course. 40:53.940 --> 40:57.490 Um my questions sewed it was a natural Segway was an article 40:57.490 --> 41:00.920 on the washington premiere last from um answer. 41:01.470 --> 41:04.820 There are as an article the washington post today that talks 41:04.820 --> 41:08.100 about the to tear aiding humanitarian conditions in iraq. 41:08.800 --> 41:12.250 Um and we also found five often find that when the people are 41:12.250 --> 41:17.720 struggling um it. It increases the radicalism in a country seing 41:18.010 --> 41:22.660 wondering what and woody see on the ground in terms of the humanitarian 41:22.660 --> 41:24.700 condition of the people in. Afghanistan. 41:28.850 --> 41:29.400 The um. 41:31.010 --> 41:34.020 What what the people of the Kana say anyone who's in his governance 41:34.020 --> 41:37.370 for the district level was fervor tougher than the do that many 41:37.370 --> 41:41.090 remote areas expect to put national Unigo verbal provide that 41:41.090 --> 41:44.030 they're working very hard to put in the place to write leadership 41:44.030 --> 41:44.880 that district level. 41:45.410 --> 41:49.010 The right members of parliament to work work to that I think 41:49.010 --> 41:52.840 are all concerned with uh the humanitarian aspects of bad. 41:53.420 --> 41:57.660 Um. All of ian dash ers from all different countries get together 41:57.660 --> 42:01.300 per out a clear to talk worth the Afghan leadership on ways of 42:01.300 --> 42:03.930 they can move forward and getting afters humanitarian issues 42:03.930 --> 42:06.950 are but I think there is good dialog and you have to be talking 42:06.950 --> 42:08.280 about the vision as you move forward. 42:08.810 --> 42:11.840 Char see continued progress. Although slow but I think as we 42:11.840 --> 42:12.770 continue to. 42:13.310 --> 42:17.690 A talk and make the Afghans a were out of the issues are out there. 42:17.970 --> 42:21.520 They wanna try to make changes to build upon other suffered show 42:21.620 --> 42:24.600 me nothing but I think we'll continue to seek growth matter. 42:26.520 --> 42:32.120 The Not talk about this because I think this really is key to 42:32.120 --> 42:35.200 moving towards a place of peace across a world which is getting 42:35.200 --> 42:35.840 to the youth. 42:36.520 --> 42:41.850 Um across a world of a of a about one one in peace and and wanting 42:41.850 --> 42:43.150 to find a way where we can. 42:43.810 --> 42:44.580 I know it in. 42:46.100 --> 42:49.280 You know find a way to stop all of these wars and conflicts what 42:49.280 --> 42:53.910 do you see with the use and now I'm in Afghanistan and is there 42:53.910 --> 42:58.350 are a social media presence in in Afghanistan and are we doing 42:58.350 --> 42:59.400 any soft power. 42:59.950 --> 43:06.640 I'm a programs to tried in courage um they use of for a a brighter future. 43:08.480 --> 43:11.720 The question for the future Afghanistan in the hope of Afghanistan 43:11.720 --> 43:12.970 is they used to the country. 43:13.610 --> 43:16.270 I'm a pretty out of clay tried monthly with an Afghan applies 43:16.270 --> 43:17.790 reporter bring in different to um. 43:18.380 --> 43:22.220 Segments of the society both the male and female a um. 43:23.060 --> 43:27.290 Publish us economists uh uh members of parliament on an on and 43:27.290 --> 43:30.180 most a mart are younger and and the um I could do one of the 43:30.180 --> 43:32.850 mating very frustrate about other things of happen for up to. 43:33.370 --> 43:36.900 My day earlier when I come out of that needing my mom always 43:36.900 --> 43:38.860 inspired because of the young people. 43:39.530 --> 43:44.020 Of and You know they they understand the problems enabling known 43:44.020 --> 43:47.510 no for the last three seven pretty eight years war have sold 43:47.510 --> 43:51.240 they want to have a better life they they do have a delay because 43:51.240 --> 43:54.370 of freedom of the press which is good attack on the top on which 43:54.370 --> 43:57.780 happen last week but they do have a delay deceit TV to listen 43:57.780 --> 44:01.580 to radio to do a facebook and twitter and all those kind of things 44:01.940 --> 44:04.450 the and more or the built-up theresa suppose outnumber. 44:04.450 --> 44:07.220 Rollers. What they see that there are other things out there 44:07.220 --> 44:09.690 of they wanna have the ability to have those opportunities as 44:09.690 --> 44:12.460 well chart I think the youth the some a number the wanna go to 44:12.460 --> 44:16.410 scroll to know number that no one a better liars or a thickness 44:16.410 --> 44:20.010 of future. And I see that in the army in the places. Well with 44:20.010 --> 44:23.320 the young captains and majors and shard inches come back to nurseries 44:23.320 --> 44:27.130 for training and now go back and bring that that the education 44:27.130 --> 44:30.560 back with them. We have to continue to get them in a right places leadership. 44:30.560 --> 44:33.180 So we can build upon. You know what they've learned and then 44:33.180 --> 44:34.030 they seek got out. 44:36.530 --> 44:39.180 Well I see the same thing here in this country. It's the youth 44:39.180 --> 44:42.140 the kiss me such hope and optimism a better future. So it's good 44:42.140 --> 44:45.270 to know that the Afghanistan use an American use cheer. 44:45.810 --> 44:49.770 About in common. I don't know if it's possible to we have a program 44:49.770 --> 44:52.860 where the American use to reaching out to Afghanistan use and 44:52.860 --> 44:55.590 back and forth. Uh uh. So they can build those friendships and 44:55.590 --> 44:59.150 relationships interesting caring a where where where there's 44:59.150 --> 45:01.280 a desire to stop. 45:01.980 --> 45:06.350 We're the mutual desire to stop the worse um and and have a better 45:06.350 --> 45:07.350 future for a Sol. 45:08.170 --> 45:10.650 Am I know there's a lot of the for musicians from a lot of countries 45:10.650 --> 45:13.320 in the U.S. included that reach out to Afghanistan actor clay 45:13.320 --> 45:16.670 focus on the U.S and come back to a better rancher and initial 45:16.670 --> 45:17.820 azores oceans us all. 45:18.350 --> 45:20.610 In the on inching. They've wealth bonnet carole where that. 45:21.170 --> 45:24.670 No runs taps tragedy assistant program that you're in the States 45:24.670 --> 45:27.590 or saw turn Afghanistan are couple weeks koch this reaching out 45:27.590 --> 45:30.760 to the orphans in the children of love of the martyr's of the 45:30.760 --> 45:34.090 folks of men killed alone it in Afghanistan and Upon isn't a 45:34.090 --> 45:36.980 crumble work for all harsh or are suspected Bonnie and and she's 45:36.980 --> 45:38.430 taken a to Afghanistan though. 45:39.410 --> 45:43.400 Skinny clues pasta sort of good it it gave the pistons tim thank-you bunny. 45:44.000 --> 45:45.530 Thank you general hi-yo back. 45:47.080 --> 45:47.690 His. Duckworth. 45:51.020 --> 45:55.170 Are men from Jerome they get of being here today I'm in the Pentagon's 45:55.200 --> 45:59.020 enhancing security and stability in Afghanistan reports. It says 45:59.050 --> 46:03.060 that I'm given newby and the assets current stage of development 46:03.160 --> 46:06.240 they can't managed insurgency and ensure security and support 46:06.240 --> 46:08.780 the the across of gotta stand without further improvements in 46:08.780 --> 46:10.780 key enabling capabilities. 46:11.370 --> 46:15.960 During your october 20 15 testimony you're very hard to the capacity 46:16.390 --> 46:19.180 than readiness of the day and the assess convention. Oh units 46:19.180 --> 46:21.710 and and you and I actually talked briefly about some of the root 46:21.710 --> 46:26.420 causes of their ineffective nurse as she we call um ear cited 46:26.420 --> 46:30.710 a lack of tactical level train advise and assist tea a men terse 46:31.110 --> 46:34.640 um as one reason for their failures and you contrast it that. 46:35.210 --> 46:39.410 Way at that what the Afghan special forces have um who do have 46:39.410 --> 46:41.340 a prices down at the tactical level. 46:42.050 --> 46:45.610 Now we've been deployed to Afghanistan for a long time and this really. 46:46.120 --> 46:49.530 Of us know in insight in ideally. We could just bring everyone home. 46:49.530 --> 46:53.010 But weeding the made a securities assess men's. I know that's 46:53.010 --> 46:54.100 not a reality. 46:54.660 --> 46:58.000 Car right do what do have an honest conversation about the exact 46:58.000 --> 47:00.220 level of commit meant that we're talking about. 47:00.830 --> 47:03.380 I wanna know it the full extent of what it would take to can 47:03.380 --> 47:07.720 doctor proper th mission. So that they india said can get a on 47:07.750 --> 47:10.870 their bright trajectory and more importantly a sub American people 47:11.340 --> 47:14.030 have a clear understanding of what we're doing here are and how 47:14.030 --> 47:15.610 many troops it will it take. 47:16.490 --> 47:19.920 Given the current trip levels are we able to effectively allied 47:19.920 --> 47:22.940 our advisors at they're pro polite appropriate echelons with 47:22.970 --> 47:26.690 NBA in ds stuff to where we would see a difference in the capability 47:27.080 --> 47:30.320 and how many troops would be required in order to better allied 47:30.320 --> 47:33.560 art prize sirs when I'm day india step to wait they would be 47:33.560 --> 47:37.830 most impactful where we could actually start to see more long 47:37.860 --> 47:39.530 term positive. Trends. 47:42.310 --> 47:46.900 Russian ma'am began um to mission sets are focused on try devising 47:46.900 --> 47:50.740 a show us a have for the ministry that the core level and and 47:50.740 --> 47:54.280 catwalk special offering force teach and then the the counterterrorism 47:54.280 --> 47:58.520 mission under us chat that to build their capacity. I think each 47:58.520 --> 48:00.950 one of those you gotta cut apart because I'm fans is yours you 48:00.950 --> 48:03.080 work work toward that and we made a decision. 48:03.590 --> 48:07.450 Uh oh Wall back to contain you to until they're Cape bill it 48:07.450 --> 48:10.040 with the same time medical I spoke to bring our forces offers 48:10.040 --> 48:13.490 we raise or capability and some instances of depend upon the 48:13.490 --> 48:15.510 unit that that has had a. 48:16.090 --> 48:18.640 Uh that level trying the right leadership. That's put in place 48:18.640 --> 48:21.740 peel halve the track stained and moved out there are places in 48:21.740 --> 48:25.980 Afghanistan a alike the to wolford core were we came off of that 48:25.980 --> 48:29.390 the core level and to the fighting susan fifteen. They continued. 48:29.900 --> 48:33.680 To do pretty good and uh what all it put the expedition advising 48:33.980 --> 48:37.350 down they're for sporadically and they continued operate your 48:37.350 --> 48:40.640 places like hellman with a two fifteen. Well we didn't have applies 48:40.640 --> 48:44.200 at the core level and that they didn't do was well and accepted 48:44.200 --> 48:47.080 move more applies was down there now to build act the sea up 48:47.080 --> 48:49.760 to get ready for the next pitched fighting season. So some owners 48:49.760 --> 48:53.080 to really for me goes back to leadership and of the right leadership 48:53.080 --> 48:54.390 and places opposed to. 48:55.040 --> 48:58.120 Uh you know the numbers of advisors because we see a different 48:58.120 --> 49:00.450 number throughout the country's Afghanistan. 49:01.000 --> 49:04.230 Where they do other right leadership and we do focus and toll 49:04.230 --> 49:06.810 on those capabilities that they continue to get better and better 49:06.920 --> 49:10.880 uh you know I thank. Uh I have to be realistic in an understanding 49:11.220 --> 49:14.810 the the from resources out there and what what we need a throughout 49:15.180 --> 49:18.890 not only Afghanistan but in europe and africa the pacific and 49:18.890 --> 49:22.320 there is a limited number five number of resources. I fight every 49:22.320 --> 49:25.910 date to have all isr to work for it and I'm very force-metre 49:25.910 --> 49:29.940 last of sencom or put me on isr see continues to the fight against 49:29.970 --> 49:33.780 I soul and or act in syria and I have that fight in Afghanistan 49:33.810 --> 49:34.610 I work with them. 49:35.120 --> 49:39.020 A nature we have the right resources and he's he's given me everything 49:39.020 --> 49:42.040 that i've asked for that I know that for hey I'm is a continual 49:42.040 --> 49:43.260 struggle because he has. 49:43.790 --> 49:47.350 Uh cullen a number resourced short by take out in a consideration 49:47.350 --> 49:50.630 as well as we look for to Afghanistan and I think again we're 49:50.630 --> 49:53.100 we're doing us a strong though i've made in the suspended things 49:53.100 --> 49:55.850 we could do one 16 to make a difference or smell like fifteen. 49:56.420 --> 49:59.640 And uh I realistically move the thing that I can make a difference 49:59.640 --> 50:02.860 on his supporters of the film for and that's in the process mal 50:02.860 --> 50:06.730 for working. So mothers and then 17 were party committed to keeping 50:07.080 --> 50:10.130 again as a semi doping statement. You know where 18 months ago. 50:10.130 --> 50:13.680 We're gonna at a thousand owing cobble. Now are 50 500 and many 50:13.680 --> 50:16.760 places yet more still talk about when eight more and more so 50:16.760 --> 50:19.610 I have to take a look at what we do have and we're gonna mix 50:19.780 --> 50:22.580 of the biggest bang for buck for the resources. We have multiplied 50:22.580 --> 50:25.540 all about that that the my leadership as with the because we 50:25.540 --> 50:29.410 go forward but I think it's it's every commander has a continue 50:29.410 --> 50:32.880 assessment as we go down has taught us some paul newman eight 50:33.020 --> 50:36.550 X I'm out of people you can out the forces of Uganda the of stories 50:36.550 --> 50:38.710 of the mecca different should know their forty's bit of it on 50:38.710 --> 50:42.930 of resources much feud of oh so reporters that the make a difference 50:42.930 --> 50:44.540 are you have to the balance of your before. 50:45.080 --> 50:47.710 Well that's exactly what I wanted to touch on which you know 50:47.750 --> 50:49.510 I'm given a. 50:50.390 --> 50:54.380 Ale. To try to pursue more years of laura dish laws are the CIA 50:54.380 --> 50:57.980 as assuming the risk getting flat or even declining trip authorization 50:57.980 --> 51:01.550 levels and and how to mitigate that risk and than what departure 51:01.550 --> 51:05.120 has exist the to recommend an increase in number of us um to 51:05.150 --> 51:08.180 our NATO forces in Afghanistan and I can take a dancer um. 51:08.210 --> 51:11.760 I know I'm over time as chairman of what no on the provider to 51:11.760 --> 51:12.980 a big effort by kick. 51:14.630 --> 51:18.510 Joe one brief claire find questioned if your success Cirque. 51:18.560 --> 51:21.490 That's nothing changes in your successor has to be a 50 fob under 51:21.490 --> 51:26.560 by january. First 2017 and what Roth tom for name do. 51:27.170 --> 51:31.730 Things half of moves a do do decisions have to be made a to get 51:31.730 --> 51:32.380 to that. Level. 51:34.790 --> 51:37.750 German my later strippers lawson up to many in manager michael 51:37.750 --> 51:41.170 small have the ability to the to take a look at what i've recommended 51:41.200 --> 51:44.620 as we go from the nine 800 of the three to 500 honestly would 51:44.620 --> 51:48.240 like to continue to keep the highest number during a increased 51:48.240 --> 51:51.540 fighting in the summer and then all those four search and then 51:51.570 --> 51:55.390 decrease after that uh uh. So no after september october timeframe 51:55.390 --> 51:58.210 you've ever ashore one of our turn to bring that down at some 51:58.210 --> 52:00.680 point is a top before becomes a matter of physics of how you 52:00.680 --> 52:03.790 can move people and around that and but again we we can do that 52:03.790 --> 52:06.810 I think for quickly we can with the on the for years are low 52:06.810 --> 52:09.470 decisions are the best in the world in Burke often for one my 52:09.470 --> 52:10.180 for session of. 52:10.700 --> 52:13.300 But as as I talk about churh contained us. My have to go back 52:13.300 --> 52:16.740 to leadership inserted. No bay some the Afghans what they've 52:16.740 --> 52:20.960 done um they should more where one ago take a look at the rest 52:20.960 --> 52:23.850 of the fortune wrist the mission and her some changes that we're 52:23.850 --> 52:27.190 out American and that I think we're we're do on that mal fell 52:27.190 --> 52:30.490 make sure the Journal nicholson has of building on the NATO peace 52:30.740 --> 52:33.610 for tirana work of are quickly of NATO was gonna make a determination 52:33.610 --> 52:38.350 change numbers advisors enablers a work in the to their process 52:38.350 --> 52:41.180 more try to make those decisions for the summer of that would 52:41.180 --> 52:44.920 enable 2017 to spatial forced generation Chuckle a pair of. 52:45.620 --> 52:50.910 And Well I'm after two and a half hours. I think I'm. 52:51.550 --> 52:54.820 That's the there's a lot a consensus and the charm of a lot of 52:54.820 --> 52:59.770 consensus a of respect and gratitude for you and your family. 53:00.460 --> 53:04.830 Um all recognition that all lotta pronged Afghans have made a 53:04.830 --> 53:06.820 lot of progress with our help. 53:07.500 --> 53:11.690 And and also a sense of unease about what the future holes depending 53:11.690 --> 53:17.920 on the decisions that to a better made their um but um is as 53:17.920 --> 53:22.080 a said at the beginning there's a I saw feel lotta ways you been 53:22.080 --> 53:27.330 walking a tight rope and even and a difficult situation uh have 53:27.330 --> 53:31.640 done an extraordinary job that in making shirt that our security 53:31.640 --> 53:35.690 interests and Afghanistan of been protected. So like you for 53:35.690 --> 53:39.850 didn't and thank you for your service and we all wish you the 53:39.850 --> 53:41.360 best without the hearing stand actor..