WEBVTT 00:02.690 --> 00:07.700 No. A very distinguished presenters allied policies practices 00:07.700 --> 00:11.300 and prevention of retaliation within the military services arbor 00:11.300 --> 00:15.790 said is our miss monique feral director us army essay J. R Kate. 00:19.280 --> 00:21.120 Somebody. The human. 00:21.710 --> 00:25.810 But girls crack best Jensen branch had us green core ahead korea's 00:26.130 --> 00:27.650 brain core and say PR. 00:28.500 --> 00:30.930 Mister jay and rude tonight. 00:31.770 --> 00:32.580 But most of them. 00:33.470 --> 00:36.790 Well close enough is now right when it comes to name we all agreed 00:37.190 --> 00:39.990 on on Rubin of armored of can keep. 00:41.300 --> 00:43.450 For where we get away from. French. 00:45.470 --> 00:50.830 Made big trouble for the deputy to expect headquarters us therefore separate. 00:51.440 --> 00:55.140 Rear admiral rigid to ease the Snyder director 20 first century 00:55.140 --> 00:56.360 sailor. Office. 00:58.070 --> 01:02.760 Well I'll and Welcome to or be you and I will start was. 01:03.330 --> 01:04.640 Um is monique carole. 01:06.140 --> 01:09.320 It out to the afternoon in thank you so much old you for coming 01:09.350 --> 01:11.370 and sharing your expertise with us. 01:13.250 --> 01:15.760 Get out to them. Thank you chairwoman. 01:16.670 --> 01:19.510 And members of the panel for inviting me here today to discuss 01:19.510 --> 01:21.300 the critical issue of retaliation. 01:22.200 --> 01:25.240 I monique for out and um the deck director of the army sexual 01:25.240 --> 01:29.180 harassed in that stop response intervention known a sharp program 01:29.180 --> 01:29.760 a fits. 01:30.440 --> 01:33.340 I've been in the jack for a little less than two mines and I'm 01:33.390 --> 01:36.470 honored to have been selected by senior army leadership to the 01:36.470 --> 01:39.660 the program but both the secretary of the army and the chief 01:39.660 --> 01:43.720 of the chief of staff of the army has identified us a top priority. 01:45.110 --> 01:48.150 As important as my professional life is to me I feel compelled 01:48.150 --> 01:50.870 to share with you a little about my personal life. 01:51.570 --> 01:55.580 I'm proud to say that I'm an army wife of 31 years. I am Austin 01:55.580 --> 01:58.700 army Ma I'm to when the fry starting in our great army. 01:59.680 --> 02:01.030 I'm extremely proud of. 02:01.610 --> 02:04.860 An extremely proud of and protect about my two soldiers. 02:05.660 --> 02:10.220 These issues that sexual harassment sexual afoul retaliation 02:10.450 --> 02:13.530 and all the related discussion point a very personal to me. 02:14.640 --> 02:17.640 As an army wife and army my and I'm just like a the members of 02:17.640 --> 02:18.680 the American public. 02:19.310 --> 02:22.440 Having trusted my family members to the great institutionally. 02:22.440 --> 02:23.640 No was the us army. 02:24.240 --> 02:27.350 And expected whether they're starving at home stationed or deployed 02:27.350 --> 02:31.170 to some outpost in a foreign country detentions bedfellows dargis 02:31.170 --> 02:33.870 members to treat them with dignity and respect. 02:34.460 --> 02:36.150 Not violate them in any weight. 02:36.680 --> 02:39.320 And if they UBS are someone attempting to violate them about 02:39.320 --> 02:41.310 observe a will into bean and protect them. 02:42.530 --> 02:45.610 I shared this person a bit of information which you because I 02:45.610 --> 02:48.550 believe they were give you some insight into the Nexus between 02:48.550 --> 02:50.470 my personal life to my professional life. 02:51.030 --> 02:54.600 And how this feels my interest in army programs that uh focused 02:54.600 --> 02:56.860 on taking care of and protecting soldiers. 02:57.690 --> 03:01.180 Although I have been the sharp director for a short time. I bring 03:01.180 --> 03:04.300 a level of passion and commitment and I believe is essential 03:04.300 --> 03:05.840 to enhancing the sharp program. 03:06.560 --> 03:09.320 It is easy for me to come to work every day because I know that 03:09.350 --> 03:12.410 army leaders a committed to the prevention of sexual assault 03:12.410 --> 03:13.420 and. Retaliation. 03:15.000 --> 03:19.040 The army like the other surface stairs has seen a promising trend. 03:19.970 --> 03:23.380 We sent survey data sing data indicates that the army's problems 03:23.380 --> 03:27.920 of sexual us all has decreased last simultaneously reporting 03:27.920 --> 03:30.000 has increased over the past two years. 03:30.640 --> 03:33.430 We believe this is a sign of growing trust and confidence in 03:33.430 --> 03:35.630 our response accountability systems. 03:36.720 --> 03:40.550 We recognize that continuing to eliminate retaliation real or 03:40.550 --> 03:45.430 perceived against victims witnesses bystanders and first responders 03:45.830 --> 03:49.860 is key to building a part of the successors and ultimately achieving 03:49.860 --> 03:51.410 the change in concert. We seek. 03:52.620 --> 03:54.790 Retaliation producer barbers. 03:55.360 --> 03:58.230 Dieter's bystanders and divides units. 03:58.780 --> 04:01.590 And in the past as destroys the trust that is the foundation 04:01.590 --> 04:02.520 of our readiness. 04:03.290 --> 04:05.190 We know about retaliation israel. 04:05.770 --> 04:09.350 That it impedes reporting and that is most prevalent at the pier 04:09.350 --> 04:11.060 an immediate improvise a lap up. 04:12.410 --> 04:16.060 The army continues to address the issue of retaliation practically 04:16.380 --> 04:20.720 including adapting policies X. But I expedited transpose the victims. 04:21.350 --> 04:24.350 The implementation of the special victim council program. 04:24.920 --> 04:27.010 Greater protection as a victim privacy. 04:27.690 --> 04:31.380 Prevention in training initiatives that seek to educate all service 04:31.450 --> 04:35.280 members are the unique aspects of this crime and the devastating 04:35.280 --> 04:36.330 effects on victims. 04:37.230 --> 04:41.620 The department of the army inspector general da. I G complaint process. 04:41.940 --> 04:45.910 I'm sexual a star review boards bicarb omar starts a tools we 04:45.910 --> 04:50.210 use to receive complaints and respond to allegations of retaliation. 04:51.240 --> 04:54.930 The da ici executes a complaint system for retaliation an reply 04:54.930 --> 04:58.510 was out in accordance with the military was to blow was protection act. 04:59.420 --> 05:03.600 For other a first responder service key advisors to command teams 05:03.600 --> 05:07.760 in victims reporting amazed retaliation to assist intervention 05:07.760 --> 05:12.290 efforts and ensure all I informed of right policies and procedures 05:12.290 --> 05:13.360 related to this day shit. 05:14.310 --> 05:17.920 The first responders conclude our sexual a stop response coordinator 05:17.920 --> 05:22.490 source arcs victim advocates become nbas special that some prosecutors 05:22.490 --> 05:23.450 and it's PC's. 05:24.560 --> 05:28.190 Our analysis of the most recent survey data shows us but we have 05:28.190 --> 05:29.170 made some inroads. 05:29.840 --> 05:33.080 There were promising we saw spun command climates are based in 05:33.080 --> 05:37.100 to indicating that over 90% of soldiers across the army believe 05:37.100 --> 05:39.900 that the chain of command took sexual assaults seriously. 05:40.420 --> 05:44.120 In cards reporting and would take appropriate action on reports. 05:44.650 --> 05:46.330 But we do believe that we must do better. 05:47.370 --> 05:51.530 The chief of staff and the sect which are the army have identified understanding. 05:52.110 --> 05:56.300 Brining a dressing and preventing retaliation as critical to 05:56.300 --> 05:57.570 our readiness as an army. 05:58.600 --> 06:02.040 First we must work to understand retaliation all formations. 06:02.680 --> 06:04.900 As major general snow told you this morning. 06:05.500 --> 06:08.780 Retaliation as an umbrella term that encompasses a wide range 06:08.780 --> 06:10.910 of conduct professional and social. 06:11.780 --> 06:15.290 The army like the of the services will rely on the back from 06:15.290 --> 06:18.640 multiple store sitters to include commanders and noncommissioned 06:18.640 --> 06:22.690 officers that care for their soldiers and a working to enhance trust. 06:23.690 --> 06:26.930 We will also use data from the Rand military workplace study 06:27.190 --> 06:30.540 and a survivor experience or Brady to gauge the prevalence of 06:30.540 --> 06:31.870 procedures valuation. 06:32.570 --> 06:36.540 Far to perceived retaliation and attached a retaliation proceed 06:36.540 --> 06:37.280 by victims. 06:38.240 --> 06:41.670 Data from combat climate surveys and focus group research from 06:41.670 --> 06:45.130 army research institute will provide for of understanding of 06:45.130 --> 06:48.910 because sections of command support and of consequences for reporting 06:48.910 --> 06:50.690 a sexual lust on a cost the army. 06:52.040 --> 06:56.280 This data provides useful information. But has inherent limitations 06:56.340 --> 06:59.910 and cannot replace the value of speaking with survivors directly 06:59.910 --> 07:01.210 about their experiences. 07:02.000 --> 07:05.360 To truly understand the new one says and affects of retaliation. 07:05.620 --> 07:09.570 We must listen to those victims and engage an open ended conversations 07:09.570 --> 07:10.660 about retaliation. 07:11.640 --> 07:15.340 To this and we have expanded our capabilities to attain first 07:15.340 --> 07:18.210 time in current I how we can reduce retaliation. 07:19.120 --> 07:22.030 The chief of staff of the army the starburst of victims advisory 07:22.030 --> 07:26.110 panel to me but survivors and first responders twice annually 07:26.410 --> 07:29.400 in in a tent seven wide-ranging magritte discussion. 07:30.430 --> 07:33.740 Additionally the chief of staff bought a perilous survivors to 07:33.740 --> 07:38.380 the shark summit. We hosted in february to discuss their individual experiences. 07:38.380 --> 07:42.280 But retaliation with an audience of abi armies to start above 07:42.280 --> 07:43.140 command teams. 07:44.120 --> 07:47.770 These and valuable conversations happening across the army 's 07:47.770 --> 07:51.290 commanders me personally but victims and with first responders 07:51.290 --> 07:52.900 such as SCC nbas. 07:54.110 --> 07:58.770 In 2014 the army began a pilot program to establish 14 shocked 07:58.770 --> 07:59.770 resource centers. 08:00.590 --> 08:05.130 He's center toast shock. First responders from prevention atticus 08:05.130 --> 08:10.600 seeing recall law enforcement investigation medical and Chapman 08:10.600 --> 08:11.470 says derek says. 08:12.250 --> 08:16.270 These batches when sadness to enhance multi disciplinary collaboration 08:16.500 --> 08:20.450 and start is a one stop shop for commanders victims and shot 08:20.480 --> 08:21.030 person now. 08:22.250 --> 08:25.170 Second the army has more to define retaliation. 08:25.760 --> 08:29.710 The secretary of the army issued a canada directive in 2014 that 08:29.710 --> 08:33.660 prohibits retaliation Oster says um and acts of mouse treatment. 08:34.920 --> 08:38.230 So professional was Halle mission violate both existing articles 08:38.230 --> 08:41.760 of the uniform quote of military just this including maltreatment 08:41.760 --> 08:45.760 and objection of justice and cute of provisions on army regulations 08:45.990 --> 08:47.660 that prohibit gazing and bully. 08:48.920 --> 08:52.900 Social retaliation more complex and was primarily be addressed 08:52.900 --> 08:56.870 through prevention training and commander far 80 that demands 08:56.870 --> 08:59.540 and reinforces the cost of dignity and respect. 09:00.160 --> 09:03.730 We fully expect that our emphasis on a command of ardi having 09:03.730 --> 09:07.020 the conversation were pop was a dress social retaliation. 09:08.090 --> 09:12.110 Up for you one march 2015 the sergeant major of the army lines 09:12.150 --> 09:17.960 that not in my sporadic not enough army we a chest it professionals campaign. 09:18.760 --> 09:22.070 This initiative ledger says the gap the army has identified in 09:22.070 --> 09:26.130 the knowledge experience and actions in first line leaders in 09:26.130 --> 09:27.680 the guards to the army profession. 09:28.880 --> 09:32.460 Time came in a grass roots approach is mentor reinforced the 09:32.460 --> 09:36.350 climate of dignity and respect founded on good order and discipline. 09:37.280 --> 09:40.130 This effort highlights the critical role of on noncommissioned 09:40.130 --> 09:44.420 officer Couric in relieving and sustaining a bow use based organization 09:44.720 --> 09:47.860 where every soldier can fulfill their full potential in in in 09:47.860 --> 09:50.730 farm and of dignity and respect founded on trust. 09:51.680 --> 09:54.750 Fired the army has put in place procedures to ensure appropriate 09:54.750 --> 09:57.170 accountability for those who retaliate. 09:57.880 --> 10:03.080 In 2015 secretary the army directed that all allegations of retaliation 10:03.080 --> 10:07.430 against victims bystanders and first responders be investigated 10:07.430 --> 10:10.670 by you the law enforcement brecht the all five command level 10:11.160 --> 10:14.750 and at all investigations be monitored by the senior in insulation 10:14.750 --> 10:18.360 commander program lead at the monthly sexual assault reviewed 10:18.360 --> 10:19.120 board meetings. 10:19.800 --> 10:23.350 These a sage procedures in shard transparency from victims and 10:23.350 --> 10:24.920 visibility for senior leaders. 10:25.850 --> 10:29.990 In addition by offices developing is that of metrics to be implemented 10:29.990 --> 10:31.720 at a sharp resource centers. 10:32.260 --> 10:35.650 These match eggs will provide data on allegations of retaliation. 10:35.840 --> 10:39.210 I can be used to inform future policy in training enhancements. 10:40.430 --> 10:43.090 Forest the army has moved toward improving chinese. 10:44.270 --> 10:47.060 The curriculum of the lego straining for commanders and command 10:47.060 --> 10:48.080 sergeant major as. 10:48.600 --> 10:51.550 A preacher man course taught at Fort leavenworth to all incoming 10:51.550 --> 10:55.110 Brigade commanders and local installation fee command courses 10:55.110 --> 10:58.630 for incoming company commanders of first ardennes had been Levi's 10:58.630 --> 11:01.370 to directly inch chest facial retaliation. 11:02.160 --> 11:05.550 Additionally the judge advocate general provided a block of instruction 11:05.550 --> 11:09.810 at the sharks Simon on the complexities of retaliation the available 11:09.810 --> 11:13.360 to all sweat dressing retaliation and the procedures set forth 11:13.360 --> 11:15.430 in the new secretary army direct X. 11:16.340 --> 11:19.460 A large a scale of the army's revising its officer an amnesty 11:19.460 --> 11:24.090 training curriculum by defining retaliation providing instruction 11:24.090 --> 11:27.980 on recognizing signs of possible retaliation and incorporating 11:27.980 --> 11:30.020 scenarios in to supervisor training. 11:30.920 --> 11:35.190 Recently develops army elite training provides interactive avatar 11:35.190 --> 11:38.840 may straining solicits junior leaders in developing them mentoring 11:38.840 --> 11:42.190 and counseling scales focus on soldiers and crisis. 11:43.340 --> 11:46.570 Carrot piece for to focused on developing be new to read light 11:46.570 --> 11:49.860 sharp training application that will support training of army 11:49.860 --> 11:52.740 command teams on the roles and responsibilities of the command 11:52.740 --> 11:56.980 team in implementing the our army sharp program in organizations. 11:57.690 --> 12:01.400 Finally the army's developing training to enhance the capabilities 12:01.400 --> 12:06.010 of starts nbas in preventing and responding to retaliation allegations. 12:07.000 --> 12:09.940 This training will be incorporated in all initial and annual 12:09.940 --> 12:11.740 refresher certification training. 12:12.860 --> 12:15.530 Throughout a lot of these efforts the army recognize this some 12:15.530 --> 12:19.080 of coral on my site essential to reinforce a concert of dignity 12:19.080 --> 12:22.570 and respect we must enable commanders at the lola slab will. 12:23.110 --> 12:27.070 Empower victims and bystanders to come forward and provide victims 12:27.070 --> 12:29.920 with a voice I look for to answering questions. 12:31.130 --> 12:35.620 Thank you very much miss Sparrow a will now here from crowned Jensen. 12:36.530 --> 12:37.840 Trial thank you very much. 12:38.800 --> 12:41.740 I'd like to take care of thank the up they'll for the upper to 12:41.770 --> 12:45.170 discuss victim retaliation prevention and response in the morning core. 12:45.980 --> 12:49.510 My goal today is to provide an overview of our policies and practices. 12:50.030 --> 12:53.450 The distressor absolute commitment to addressing all of the negative 12:53.490 --> 12:57.860 experiences reported by victims to include professional and personal 12:57.860 --> 12:58.850 chug retaliation. 12:59.750 --> 13:03.110 During core take delegation djs in acts of retaliation seriously. 13:03.660 --> 13:07.000 We recognize a detrimental impact retaliation has are victims 13:07.000 --> 13:08.230 in a more unit readiness. 13:09.200 --> 13:11.800 In order to protect our nation's interests any we're in the world 13:11.800 --> 13:12.870 at a moment's notice. 13:13.380 --> 13:15.690 We must remain faithful to our selma arrange. 13:16.260 --> 13:19.930 For tell a tory behavior negatively impacts unit cohesion and 13:19.930 --> 13:21.660 detract from our combat readiness. 13:22.190 --> 13:23.670 And it has no place in our core. 13:24.810 --> 13:28.100 To address retaliation a marine corps empower SUV or not leaders 13:28.210 --> 13:31.470 by providing them with resources in the formal policy training 13:31.470 --> 13:32.160 and guidance. 13:33.010 --> 13:36.460 While marines of all ranks are responsible for preventing retaliation 13:36.890 --> 13:39.790 are small unit leaders are ultimately the center of gravity. 13:40.600 --> 13:43.500 And our service white campaign to address retaliation. We will 13:43.500 --> 13:47.110 continue to provide unit leaders with the tools needed to accomplish 13:47.110 --> 13:47.710 their. Mission. 13:49.820 --> 13:52.960 Fours ron acknowledge retaliation as a destructive behavior. 13:53.480 --> 13:58.720 In 2006 san in 2000 and can retaliation was incorporated or modified 13:58.720 --> 14:02.190 and poor in our marine corps orders as well as a related died 14:02.190 --> 14:05.850 and so the dress misconduct criminal behavior and inappropriate 14:05.850 --> 14:07.090 social media usage. 14:07.740 --> 14:10.810 We continue to release new and revise policy the specifically 14:10.810 --> 14:12.330 speaks to. Retaliation. 14:13.860 --> 14:16.850 Commanders are expected to foster an environment that encourages 14:16.850 --> 14:19.760 reporting of sexual assault without the fear of reprisals. 14:20.590 --> 14:23.730 Recent survey data shows commanders have been successful on mishra 14:23.730 --> 14:26.240 guard with 87% of marine survey. 14:26.960 --> 14:29.440 Indicating that there are you in a provided a safe environment 14:29.470 --> 14:30.650 against sexual assault. 14:31.550 --> 14:34.220 Doubt also shows our efforts are working to boast prevent. 14:34.220 --> 14:36.950 There's crimen increased confidence in our response system. 14:37.760 --> 14:41.040 Approximately 1000 fewer marines were victims of unwanted sex 14:41.040 --> 14:44.540 will salt and that's why for team compared fy twelfth. 14:45.320 --> 14:48.660 A risk represents a decrease of approximately 30 percent. 14:49.370 --> 14:52.950 In the same time to hear timeframe reports of sexual assault 14:52.980 --> 14:54.660 increased by 94 percent. 14:55.390 --> 14:58.070 This means a fewer marines are being assaulted in the more marines 14:58.070 --> 14:59.500 are comfortable coming forward. 15:00.780 --> 15:04.080 When cory is taking a median long-term steps to further address 15:04.080 --> 15:08.400 retaliation uh. We recognize a retaliation does not just occurred 15:08.400 --> 15:11.170 in the context of one issues such a sexual most all. 15:11.820 --> 15:14.830 Therefore to requires a multi disciplinary approach. 15:15.980 --> 15:18.970 Our comprehensive approach consists of six focus or is a but 15:18.970 --> 15:20.700 like to go over briefly which you know. 15:21.500 --> 15:24.290 First she and this is in an area. We are saying and having the 15:24.290 --> 15:27.600 most immediate impact is communications el reach. 15:28.280 --> 15:31.290 With the gall of meeting all ranks and ages of marines were ever 15:31.290 --> 15:35.210 they made be on duty on liberty or on line. 15:36.080 --> 15:39.200 Our diverse communications strategy ensures that we reaches wide 15:39.200 --> 15:40.440 an audience is possible. 15:41.080 --> 15:45.180 I lever inch print publications info-graphics another public 15:45.180 --> 15:48.490 service announcements and personal face to face interactions. 15:49.310 --> 15:52.730 For example we of integrated topic of retaliation and were face 15:52.730 --> 15:56.450 to face we'd engagements were a and other team members traveled 15:56.450 --> 15:59.420 installation to crossed the quarter talked marines about our 15:59.420 --> 16:00.500 syrup or initiatives. 16:01.320 --> 16:05.060 Additionally. Retaliation team service announcements have been 16:05.060 --> 16:07.490 prepared from one core social media. 16:08.620 --> 16:11.770 Where we have been able to reach upwards of a a a 400 thousand 16:11.770 --> 16:15.470 people with a single post our a social media let's. 16:16.770 --> 16:20.700 Second weren't using retaliation prevention response majors into 16:20.700 --> 16:24.260 all of our training efforts capital E it lies in on our established 16:24.540 --> 16:26.100 SAP or training continuum. 16:26.650 --> 16:30.720 That educate jar marines according to their specific grades in. Responsibilities. 16:31.970 --> 16:35.040 All SAP or training for leaders is being expanded to integrate 16:35.040 --> 16:37.130 recent retaliation policy changes. 16:37.870 --> 16:41.310 Outline additional strategies for prevention and response. 16:41.820 --> 16:44.340 As they become work that we awesome to become more sensitive 16:44.340 --> 16:46.560 deter interaction with the victims and their commands. 16:48.170 --> 16:51.000 Finally we are also providing Arce Chapel. Professionals are 16:51.000 --> 16:54.590 sexual assault response coordinator. Shen civilian and uniformed 16:54.590 --> 16:58.300 victim advocates was critical training to expand their knowledge 16:58.300 --> 17:00.480 and the ability to respond to. Retaliation. 17:01.830 --> 17:04.600 A comprehensive look a prevention and response protocols are 17:04.600 --> 17:05.810 certain area focus. 17:06.530 --> 17:09.900 Ring core version the sexual assault incident response oversight 17:09.900 --> 17:13.930 report which is designed for commanders to complete within eight 17:13.930 --> 17:17.530 days of an unrestricted report of sexual assault is being brought 17:17.530 --> 17:21.700 and be on the duty requirements to include fields that will ensure commander. 17:21.700 --> 17:25.860 She discuss retaliation with victims. Informing them of their 17:25.860 --> 17:27.970 rides and all available resources. 17:28.500 --> 17:31.780 In addition the Czech place used by starched and victim advocates 17:31.780 --> 17:35.540 during their monthly check cans with victims is being revised 17:35.570 --> 17:37.820 to include questions about. Retaliation. 17:39.470 --> 17:42.700 Forces in order to increase or understanding of the situation 17:42.700 --> 17:46.250 on the ground. We're developing research projects of we'll we'll 17:46.380 --> 17:49.615 tell them to retaliation identifying the questions needed two 17:49.615 --> 17:53.540 trillion completely defining issue and future iterations of surveys 17:53.540 --> 17:57.310 given to the services such as a specific types of retaliation 17:57.360 --> 18:00.330 tory behavior the people are experiencing in our ranks. 18:01.440 --> 18:04.830 Our fifth area focusing balls continued collaboration with the 18:04.830 --> 18:06.200 inspector General's office. 18:06.770 --> 18:10.300 And the judge advocate general division to clarify and refine 18:10.300 --> 18:11.620 policy in pursuit hirsch. 18:12.270 --> 18:14.940 We're also working with local judge etiquette to are aware of 18:14.940 --> 18:17.180 the legal issues surrounding retaliation. 18:17.770 --> 18:19.520 And 10 assists commanders according. 18:20.120 --> 18:23.060 Way eagle training courses have banning will continue to be updated 18:23.060 --> 18:26.840 to address types of retaliation and strategies for responding. 18:27.920 --> 18:31.670 Our sixth and final area focuses preventing online retaliation 18:31.700 --> 18:32.810 and cyber boring. 18:33.470 --> 18:36.240 Which creates hostile command climates of presents of very or 18:36.240 --> 18:36.980 to reporting. 18:37.590 --> 18:40.930 Demoing core has existing social media guidance and directives 18:40.930 --> 18:44.750 that enables commanders to take action against lorraine's reengage 18:44.750 --> 18:46.120 an online retaliation. 18:46.970 --> 18:50.420 Work but we're working to develop additional and more effective 18:50.450 --> 18:54.070 tools for leadership to identify and address what's going on 18:54.070 --> 18:55.610 on line within their units. 18:56.830 --> 19:00.260 To the six areas of focus our goal was to affectively raise awareness 19:00.260 --> 19:01.000 of this issue. 19:01.580 --> 19:05.080 Provide the toils for commanders and all know aims to identify 19:05.110 --> 19:09.030 and correct any instances of retaliation. No matter where it 19:09.030 --> 19:12.750 occurs and to prevent retaliation from occurring in the first place. 19:13.760 --> 19:18.110 Leadership is critical to our fight against sexual salt and retaliation. 19:18.670 --> 19:21.550 Or separate campaign plan was built around the central rolled 19:21.550 --> 19:25.110 the commander and the principle that decisive in engaged leadership 19:25.150 --> 19:26.750 as our greatest weapon in them about all. 19:27.370 --> 19:29.940 Commanders have always been responsible for looking after the 19:29.940 --> 19:33.290 safety and well being of their marines this includes effectively 19:33.290 --> 19:36.090 a dressing and ultimately preventing retaliation. 19:36.690 --> 19:39.560 A thank you again for the opportunity to to be with you today 19:39.560 --> 19:43.290 and look for your questions. Thank you very much curl Lowell 19:43.290 --> 19:45.980 next year from rear admiral richard the Snyder. 19:46.530 --> 19:47.320 And roll welcome. 19:47.940 --> 19:50.590 A thank you and good afternoon Madam chairman postman members 19:50.590 --> 19:54.250 of the paddle uh I to appreciate the Apache that talk of the 19:54.250 --> 19:58.170 this afternoon about the navy sexual salt a a prevention em response 19:58.170 --> 20:01.330 efforts and protec raid issue retaliation against victims of 20:01.330 --> 20:02.160 sexual or so all. 20:02.910 --> 20:06.310 It is making progress in our sexual Saul prevention a response efforts. 20:06.960 --> 20:10.490 Uh but more can and will be gone weary swing arm from the random 20:10.640 --> 20:12.920 motor workplace gender relations survey. 20:13.480 --> 20:17.450 About 62% of dod women experienced are reported experiencing 20:17.450 --> 20:19.520 negative actions after sexual also all. 20:20.120 --> 20:23.320 These report actions included professional or social retaliation 20:23.730 --> 20:26.720 administrative actions. They did not want and or punishments 20:26.720 --> 20:30.010 for any infractions are violations as a result of their sexual assault. 20:30.840 --> 20:34.640 All these actions as described above could be retaliation they 20:34.640 --> 20:38.290 could also be non rick talent tory negative professional social 20:38.320 --> 20:42.350 or administrative actions or bingo are properly accountable for misconduct. 20:42.850 --> 20:46.190 That said anything that discourages victims from reporting a 20:46.190 --> 20:50.060 sexual salt or creates a barrier to reporting is a concern. 20:50.630 --> 20:53.940 Can turn our core values when victims don't come forward. 20:53.940 --> 20:56.800 We can't give them the helping needy and we can hold offenders 20:56.800 --> 20:57.950 are pulp really accountable. 20:58.730 --> 21:01.390 Whether it's victims experts in retaliation are experiencing 21:01.390 --> 21:04.950 other negative consequences of reporting we must concert me bust 21:04.950 --> 21:07.810 addressed the issue. So we can eliminate better mitigate and 21:07.810 --> 21:09.730 properly responded these actions. 21:10.470 --> 21:14.410 Maybe S three main lines of effort to brushes problem understanding 21:14.410 --> 21:17.620 and education communication and response. 21:18.510 --> 21:20.660 Awareness and understanding of the problem is critical. 21:21.230 --> 21:25.070 Elements a retaliation are described in the 2014 SEC. Matt instruction 21:25.070 --> 21:28.250 on was so bore protection as taking more threatening to take 21:28.250 --> 21:31.110 an ad burst personnel action or withholding are threatening to 21:31.110 --> 21:34.410 withhold of from favorable personnel action was respect. 21:34.410 --> 21:36.990 Remember the armed forces because the member reported a criminal 21:36.990 --> 21:37.590 of fetch. 21:38.310 --> 21:41.320 Includes posture says him acts of maltreatment committed by appears 21:41.320 --> 21:44.570 of a member or by other persons when it's done with the intent 21:44.570 --> 21:47.840 to discourage reporting of rick ramallah french or interfere 21:47.840 --> 21:49.310 with the judicial process. 21:50.610 --> 21:53.420 The re survey indicated a high percentage of sexual assault victims 21:53.420 --> 21:57.130 expereince saying retaliation or some other negative action it 21:57.130 --> 21:59.790 results from the the parma defense climate survey shoes by a 21:59.790 --> 22:02.880 all maybe commands indicate that sailors have a strong trust 22:02.880 --> 22:06.870 and confidence in the command climate the leadership and of retaliation 22:06.870 --> 22:08.410 would not occur within their unit. 22:09.200 --> 22:12.150 To better understand this disparity between the perception and 22:12.150 --> 22:15.470 the experts of those who report a sexual or Saul chard one-issue. 22:15.470 --> 22:16.210 It's are underway. 22:17.500 --> 22:20.480 We vastly units and others about reports of retaliation from 22:20.480 --> 22:21.850 sexual salt victims. 22:22.360 --> 22:26.020 Or sexual Saul case management groups were sacked mix were directed 22:26.020 --> 22:29.740 to ask about retaliation against victims witnesses bystanders 22:29.900 --> 22:31.050 and first responders. 22:31.610 --> 22:33.890 Misinformation walk-up was better understand the problem. 22:33.930 --> 22:36.900 So we can refine our efforts to address and respond to it. 22:37.960 --> 22:41.210 We'll continue to use the survivor experience survey and begin 22:41.210 --> 22:44.320 using the upcoming military justice expereince server to get 22:44.320 --> 22:48.050 additional expert information on the expereince of victims to 22:48.050 --> 22:51.100 include retaliation another negative consequences of their or salt. 22:51.920 --> 22:54.540 The sack maxwell continued their monthly assessment of victim 22:54.540 --> 22:58.190 and first responder retaliation notifying commandos appropriate. 22:58.190 --> 22:59.550 Sure action can be taken. 23:00.770 --> 23:03.840 Formal communication to the fleet on issues of retaliation included 23:03.870 --> 23:07.450 feedback on dod's december report on sexual salt to the president. 23:07.950 --> 23:11.230 Including the issue of retaliation an information campaign to 23:11.230 --> 23:13.920 better increase awareness and understanding of. Retaliation. 23:15.350 --> 23:18.540 Maybe has taken steps to mitigate retaliation to revise training 23:18.830 --> 23:22.230 updated instructions and policy tool kits for commanders and 23:22.230 --> 23:24.080 media campaigns to raise a were notch. 23:24.610 --> 23:28.330 Maybe use revised art may be revised the admiral SAP irks. 23:28.850 --> 23:33.110 Training senior later pleading gauge. Hansen me our retrawl focusing 23:33.110 --> 23:34.320 more on retaliation. 23:35.090 --> 23:37.700 Well first live supervisor training in command training are being 23:37.700 --> 23:40.830 enhance with modules one how to prevent recognize and respond 23:40.830 --> 23:42.450 it retaliation monitor purge. 23:43.630 --> 23:46.440 We're also working with duty separate a develop fall one survey 23:46.440 --> 23:49.220 question's to better identify the actions are avenge that are 23:49.220 --> 23:50.620 reported as retaliation. 23:51.290 --> 23:53.870 These responses will allow us to better understand the problem 23:53.870 --> 23:55.460 and focus our efforts to address it. 23:56.150 --> 23:59.250 As we were more are we will continue to provide relevant information 23:59.280 --> 24:02.270 through a number of media sources and direct indication with 24:02.270 --> 24:03.190 sailors and the fleet. 24:04.060 --> 24:07.230 Of note april a sexual salt awareness and prevention month. 24:08.370 --> 24:11.590 And the were edition anyone retaliation as a part of many activities 24:11.590 --> 24:14.500 and events taking the taking place throughout the fleet. 24:15.780 --> 24:18.560 Recourse is to respond retaliation are described in the sector 24:18.560 --> 24:20.600 in a V was so bore protection instruction. 24:21.230 --> 24:24.700 It defiance retaliation and provides commanders and victims with 24:24.700 --> 24:27.800 a clear path to reporting and responding to both reprise all 24:27.910 --> 24:28.770 and retaliation. 24:29.470 --> 24:32.540 It makes it a violation of the you see MGA to commit reprise 24:32.540 --> 24:33.530 or retaliation. 24:34.810 --> 24:37.720 Actions were responses to other perceive negative consequences 24:37.720 --> 24:38.510 are not is clear. 24:39.210 --> 24:42.220 And we're working across the department defense and with or maybe 24:42.220 --> 24:45.010 jeju tickets an inspector general to better understand. 24:45.010 --> 24:46.610 What means are legally available. 24:48.230 --> 24:51.430 Having additional unnecessary negative actions occurred to victims 24:51.430 --> 24:54.150 of sexual salt or any traumatic event is world. 24:54.930 --> 24:57.070 They need our support not arcs collusion. 24:57.870 --> 25:01.470 This effort to better understand and recognize and respond appropriately 25:01.470 --> 25:04.710 to make it of action each subsequent to a sexual salt including 25:04.710 --> 25:06.340 retaliation is pretty important. 25:07.020 --> 25:09.590 I believe it's also very important to broaden the show effort 25:09.920 --> 25:13.900 to reprise all retaliation. Another net and other negative actions 25:13.900 --> 25:16.960 for victims of any traumatic of and not just those of sexual 25:16.960 --> 25:17.430 or soul. 25:18.200 --> 25:19.260 They hurt the victims. 25:19.820 --> 25:22.820 The scourge reporting a brother crimes and they reduce navy's 25:22.820 --> 25:26.720 ready match. It's an important effort for our sailors and our navy. 25:27.490 --> 25:30.020 Thank you again for the opportunity to speak with UNICEF to I 25:30.020 --> 25:31.550 look forward or dressing and a question. 25:32.060 --> 25:35.810 Thank you very much a role for next I'm chris center will be 25:36.030 --> 25:37.540 missed huge a on rude. 25:38.490 --> 25:42.040 Sir. Alternate distinguished their membership. 25:42.630 --> 25:45.660 For expressed where crawley to appreciate the chance to share 25:45.660 --> 25:48.390 some I use of you assure portions prior arms. 25:48.980 --> 25:52.110 From trials was re continue or legacy of beijing differ call 25:52.110 --> 25:53.100 challenges head on. 25:54.600 --> 25:58.030 The core star worse or or some effort in combating sexual salt 25:58.030 --> 26:01.770 is focused on ensuring every are many lives and works a healthy 26:01.770 --> 26:04.710 environment for the year. She is treated with dignity and respect. 26:05.720 --> 26:08.700 Like also all those inconsistent were far poorer our ears. 26:09.330 --> 26:13.210 And 30 first check surest before self and excellence in all we do. 26:14.090 --> 26:17.090 Fresh or salting year porsche degrade the very nature of mission 26:17.090 --> 26:19.920 accomplishment impacting your readiness to protect and defend 26:19.920 --> 26:22.010 freedom at home and abroad. 26:22.800 --> 26:25.860 There's no place in in infirmary which is spouses didn't indian 26:25.860 --> 26:29.070 respect for the degradation of individuals to racks a special 26:29.070 --> 26:30.140 harassment assault. 26:30.710 --> 26:34.430 And there's no place for professional or social retaliation against 26:34.430 --> 26:36.940 the victims were responder for calling. 26:38.540 --> 26:41.650 We is rose rather searches are making progress from are gaining 26:41.650 --> 26:42.500 ground in the fight. 26:43.640 --> 26:44.830 Or the past three years. 26:45.410 --> 26:50.440 Progress decrease 25% in reporting increased 61% and therefore 26:50.440 --> 26:54.590 14 approximately. One me into part four or one works creates 26:54.620 --> 26:56.680 a more research will contact reported. 26:57.320 --> 27:01.510 As opposed to one in five or four airmen fy twelfth. 27:02.150 --> 27:04.340 Eased our tranche. While positive. 27:05.390 --> 27:06.390 Me to be accelerated. 27:08.090 --> 27:10.990 Forced leaders are all letter led all the bowls are pursuing 27:10.990 --> 27:15.030 gazing exploring executing new frontiers in breaking down barriers 27:15.060 --> 27:18.020 to shoulders complex incentive issue. 27:18.620 --> 27:22.790 The results of our defense equal opportunity management ish jim 27:22.930 --> 27:25.930 institute organizational clever usher izart. The arcs. 27:26.600 --> 27:29.330 The ship parts are light on our command climate much like you've 27:29.330 --> 27:30.630 heard from a Kosher research. 27:31.420 --> 27:34.780 I like to syria to door will makeup finished that are air minch 27:34.780 --> 27:38.310 chain of command fiction issue report ritual soul rip were Searcey. 27:38.870 --> 27:42.580 But they take steps to protect the cp of individuals making a report. 27:43.190 --> 27:46.110 The to support those in the riddles or take corrective action 27:46.110 --> 27:49.560 to address the factors that may have laid to this special shawl. 27:50.630 --> 27:53.640 As important it is stated competition. The chain of command. 27:54.310 --> 27:57.890 Mirror literally no airmen were reported that their chain of 27:57.890 --> 28:01.240 command would not all be likely to catered or stirs story. 28:02.400 --> 28:05.360 Taken in ed and it was other respond to within the surveying 28:05.410 --> 28:08.720 the dea archers all three or four center ehrman believe respect 28:08.720 --> 28:12.080 interests are prominent factors in their command climate. 28:13.070 --> 28:16.280 At the same time one of the mini challenges in our for major 28:16.280 --> 28:21.590 response severs is that a victim retaliation presage sir by rich 28:21.590 --> 28:25.400 branch survey data administered is loosely trigger forced victims. 28:25.400 --> 28:29.410 Especial Saul asked about the extent of either professional or 28:29.410 --> 28:30.720 so for retaliation. 28:31.280 --> 28:35.070 Or a half of the fema air erinma reported a special salt experienced 28:35.280 --> 28:37.050 some form of retaliation. 28:37.590 --> 28:41.000 A proxy a further few might ever reported professional retaliation 28:41.000 --> 28:43.810 all more than half rashid social. Retaliation. 28:45.640 --> 28:49.070 To retaliation if pressure year for says all store complex problem 28:49.070 --> 28:53.020 to categorize or identify within the context of a search will shawl. 28:53.770 --> 28:57.380 Large morgan's rider driven by small sample size often inhibit 28:57.380 --> 28:58.670 conclusion the now also us. 28:59.400 --> 29:01.760 It doesn't form the problem identification. 29:02.340 --> 29:05.520 In addition heirs will definitions for retaliation a broad in 29:05.520 --> 29:09.550 scope the protest reopen for mission interpretation. Purge Apple 29:09.550 --> 29:13.050 depending on one's perspective investigation which fine arrays 29:13.050 --> 29:17.550 drinking or drug usage and subsequently result in clad or a punishment 29:17.580 --> 29:20.780 maybe perceive its in surrey is our of in focus group pre upsurge 29:21.230 --> 29:22.650 a retaliation in general. 29:23.810 --> 29:27.360 RSS are commander supervisor may make work workplace decisions 29:27.780 --> 29:31.740 regarding location for ships are commie to victims' medical legal 29:31.770 --> 29:35.050 or other skater a coral ups and we'll we'll intended. 29:35.660 --> 29:39.340 This administrator action may be perceived are reported as retaliation. 29:39.450 --> 29:42.780 Right facts such action ears like I mentioned. Well intended 29:42.780 --> 29:46.810 for the airman the unit or the mission ming or task at hand chilies 29:46.810 --> 29:50.280 to urge app over simply offered to highlight the well or surveys 29:50.280 --> 29:53.550 of retaliation have improved rip more precise definition shame 29:53.550 --> 29:58.390 pounding to gather more acted in actionable data we still need 29:58.390 --> 30:01.040 to improve our continue their first trip are prepared to enter 30:01.040 --> 30:03.270 five the problem categorizing cowering. 30:04.460 --> 30:08.220 A recession forced related to sexual salt concession caress. 30:08.220 --> 30:10.100 But are also captured amid the ox. 30:10.880 --> 30:13.370 The responses from abby ox indicate that are but two thirds of 30:13.370 --> 30:16.670 the forced perceive you members in general are not all like the 30:16.670 --> 30:20.220 to reach far dairy cow tory way when you're the one happen any 30:20.220 --> 30:23.770 spies perceive that the alleged offender were associates war 30:23.770 --> 30:27.380 to have some level of likelihood retaliate against a victim. 30:27.930 --> 30:31.260 The bottom lying ish. Retaliation is occurring. 30:31.850 --> 30:34.770 Sold for retaliation appeared to be more prevalent than professional 30:34.770 --> 30:38.950 retaliation and the perceptions of the problem differ between 30:38.950 --> 30:40.380 victims and the forcing general. 30:42.240 --> 30:43.390 Therefore police. 30:43.900 --> 30:47.680 That retaliation a new form is unacceptable and we are dressing 30:47.680 --> 30:48.660 in in several ways. 30:49.490 --> 30:52.440 Or force destruction a sexual saw prevention response program 30:52.440 --> 30:56.360 is been recently re written and expanded to incorporate and codified 30:56.360 --> 30:57.900 numerous per financial lolling. 30:58.400 --> 31:00.550 And of 2010 to 2004 team. 31:01.370 --> 31:04.850 Are policy pieced owner this document is down Russia's commander 31:04.850 --> 31:08.550 super ryder roles and requirements during a program execution 31:09.020 --> 31:12.300 it did to cure commanders are cast to protect sexual sold victims. 31:12.540 --> 31:16.680 Witnesses bystanders to intervene responders or all the parties 31:16.680 --> 31:21.220 to an incident from worsening Oster says him maltreatment discrimination 31:21.250 --> 31:23.020 reprisal and retaliation. 31:24.110 --> 31:27.830 The case for group is a venue for deliberate plan review. 31:28.470 --> 31:32.060 Every part retaliation complain discretion in of victims commanders 31:32.470 --> 31:34.750 planting you'd be addressed retaliation. 31:35.580 --> 31:39.480 In a report of portion retaliation doctor says um el kramer prize 31:39.480 --> 31:43.150 all from asia and the a gender for status updates until it victims 31:43.150 --> 31:46.680 cage as reach final disposition or have been are perp really 31:46.680 --> 31:50.760 addressed according to the integration specter general his chain teacher. 31:52.000 --> 31:56.160 Form true grit. You accountability to peak of orange and the 31:56.160 --> 31:59.060 future roller form debtor called tracking at first potentially 31:59.060 --> 32:00.950 to write a leader inter session or perch. 32:01.990 --> 32:04.990 Or policies doubter says the position of retaliation and prepare 32:04.990 --> 32:08.150 that session native behavior were also record training. 32:08.710 --> 32:13.380 The Former victims first-last several ushers commanders are ehrman 32:13.380 --> 32:14.030 a large. 32:14.720 --> 32:18.860 Mystery begins in a session should iraq basic training in specialty 32:18.860 --> 32:22.110 training at the installation level for first term heirloom. 32:23.180 --> 32:26.770 Right all bras rim listed professional military education and 32:26.770 --> 32:28.600 scored or group and wing commander training. 32:29.390 --> 32:33.110 Our and your training includes programmer views standards expectations 32:33.110 --> 32:35.210 and small group marvel trainee many apps. 32:35.780 --> 32:39.880 Or a model for assessed labels ever fee. Matters is or discretion 32:39.880 --> 32:44.100 intended to assessed wingers our commanders for starvation supervisors. 32:44.670 --> 32:48.540 What's aggression forms retaliation it asia. Cage air men about 32:48.540 --> 32:52.050 the posture facts that demand that the have sent promoting respect 32:52.390 --> 32:55.720 alter working permits and reducing potential for retaliation. 32:56.580 --> 33:01.320 Wrist larger share. Oh and others provide flexible pinard opportunities 33:01.320 --> 33:04.920 to commanders educating our modems crimen general and an old 33:04.950 --> 33:08.330 policy in a tent to counter retaliation. Specifically. 33:10.210 --> 33:13.240 Therefore recognizing their retaliation existing is determined 33:13.240 --> 33:16.040 to compare could order and discipline in mission a copper front. 33:17.020 --> 33:19.680 Established paul Shane train refer to are provided to leaders 33:19.680 --> 33:23.730 at every level of supervision. To combat this may be a consequence 33:23.730 --> 33:27.720 than reduces prevalence initially and winning session behavior 33:27.720 --> 33:28.400 all together. 33:29.190 --> 33:33.140 Recognition paul training are priory tools provide into our leaders 33:33.140 --> 33:37.090 and commanders are critical component in year forces prevention 33:37.090 --> 33:40.390 response to perch and a Robie update a reviewed tracked their 33:40.390 --> 33:43.370 forced accordingly to continue such a their progress. 33:44.020 --> 33:44.720 But very much. 33:46.140 --> 33:46.560 Thank you. 33:47.820 --> 33:48.510 This to Taylor. 33:49.960 --> 33:53.200 Restore boxlike day nature view for your are many years of public 33:53.200 --> 33:57.500 service servers to the military a certainly appreciate the testimony 33:57.500 --> 33:59.910 to the strength of the army family. Thank you very much for your 33:59.910 --> 34:00.850 family services. 34:00.850 --> 34:04.980 Well. I would like for each review to answer. This question just 34:04.980 --> 34:07.670 in turn will start with the army and just go down the panel. 34:08.320 --> 34:11.890 What is your rack what do your record show about the all office 34:11.890 --> 34:16.240 all the person to whom retaliation comply inch are most often made. 34:17.040 --> 34:19.540 Who'd normally get stuff. First purport to be you have. 34:20.200 --> 34:21.650 Evidence or records of. That. 34:24.950 --> 34:29.530 We have said wreck grows wheat on top right. Exactly who would 34:29.530 --> 34:32.500 beat the person. Most popped into the sea. 34:33.090 --> 34:37.780 Um. Claims of retaliation side of the to recapture statistics 34:37.780 --> 34:41.450 on that we can and does anyone have an answer to that. 34:42.270 --> 34:47.330 Or an intuitive feel for how this works for back I guess out offered. 34:47.540 --> 34:50.590 No evidence. But un-intuitive Co that as we do as we took to 34:50.590 --> 34:54.620 the instruction the two elements to your a reprise or. A and 34:54.620 --> 34:58.990 retaliation are I G business and so certainly are inspector general 34:58.990 --> 35:02.270 was a spoke they come through the process keep track of the complaints 35:02.270 --> 35:06.240 made to the edgy that the issues of Oster says I'm a maltreatment 35:06.240 --> 35:09.930 are really commanders business uh or or legal business to our 35:09.960 --> 35:13.760 major come grow investigative offices are commanders those would 35:13.760 --> 35:18.130 be more difficult. I think to to sense broadly because you know 35:18.270 --> 35:21.190 they're all handled in differ matters depending on the accusation 35:21.190 --> 35:24.080 on the findings but but intuitively I'm in those are sort of 35:24.080 --> 35:27.000 the two areas that i've that I can a look at these complaints 35:27.000 --> 35:30.680 and peter the reprise a retaliation. I G piece or the offices 35:30.680 --> 35:32.140 and maltreatment command be. 35:33.050 --> 35:36.740 Would right why didn't take a shot of does a well-liked from 35:37.020 --> 35:40.410 the informal side were saying the ticket or is we shine more 35:40.410 --> 35:41.600 light on this topic. 35:42.170 --> 35:46.070 That the the reports met and maybe not for size see what your 35:46.070 --> 35:49.830 asking it tore tory are asking are going to do to sexual. 35:49.830 --> 35:53.500 So response court Nader's that victim advocates where the victim 35:53.500 --> 35:56.990 legal councils the that new establishment that soften times. 35:56.990 --> 35:59.550 I think where we first are gonna get an indicator because they're 35:59.550 --> 36:01.350 trusted agents with the was victims. 36:01.910 --> 36:05.070 And then the advice they get from any one of those in a decent. 36:05.590 --> 36:08.780 Um well culp steer them um. 36:09.440 --> 36:13.090 Torch if there is an informal made four inch were also fighting 36:13.090 --> 36:16.510 in many cases that they're dispel in a perception that a factor 36:16.510 --> 36:18.130 was in a case of retaliation. 36:18.680 --> 36:23.490 And just last week we had to le examples of a two young ladies 36:23.490 --> 36:25.600 to stop they were being retaliated against. 36:26.180 --> 36:30.380 Um when date conveyed that to they're us saarc. 36:31.070 --> 36:34.110 And they look into led to that those that they thought were retaliating 36:34.110 --> 36:36.650 against him one even aware that they had reporter no. 36:37.170 --> 36:42.510 Cry. But because day word raw low-level leaders. They were questioning 36:42.670 --> 36:43.810 their absence to work. 36:44.360 --> 36:48.030 And sosa's question's up relating so by resolving that conflict. 36:48.750 --> 36:53.540 Um the retaliation was eliminated from the table and and better 36:53.540 --> 36:56.710 accommodations could be made for the victims of was a misunderstanding. 36:57.230 --> 36:58.690 Standout will never be recorded. 36:59.480 --> 37:04.050 In any formal record of a of a potential retaliation war resolution 37:04.050 --> 37:08.040 to it but I but we're seeing more and more at that level of old 37:08.090 --> 37:09.580 sickly as we shy more light on it. 37:10.250 --> 37:13.370 But that like you can just onion admitting to that mr. On rebecca payback. 37:13.400 --> 37:16.540 One piece on that imagine a I'm assuming you're be the same thing 37:16.540 --> 37:20.440 that the star poured died that per bed individual to use factor 37:20.440 --> 37:23.470 general for for that discussion piece from the same with their 37:23.470 --> 37:27.070 commander most cases make identity the camera never the inspector 37:27.070 --> 37:31.500 General's role to solve that potentially or as much as the short 37:31.620 --> 37:34.620 of doing it themselves sold the other professional refresh or 37:34.620 --> 37:38.790 train to make a determination a dolphin editor of may she determined 37:38.790 --> 37:41.580 to remain at the start level. They don't they wouldn't have the 37:41.580 --> 37:45.620 opportunity to for bent somebody from going forward to to report 37:45.620 --> 37:48.350 retaliation to director joe and that's really what an getting 37:48.350 --> 37:50.190 to because what I'm wondering goes. 37:50.960 --> 37:55.070 Inkwell there each service has a particular methodology about 37:55.070 --> 37:59.040 which watch the complaint is made you the and a company that 37:59.040 --> 38:03.400 person to the ici send the person to the adjaye conduct some 38:03.400 --> 38:06.910 sort of preliminary investigation judas crop courage and some 38:06.910 --> 38:11.270 but satisfies the victim but in fact he or she has not been the 38:11.270 --> 38:15.940 subject of retaliation. So could each of you comment on how you 38:15.940 --> 38:17.140 see your service. 38:18.020 --> 38:22.090 Played in this I'll over appeared of time and the extent to which 38:22.120 --> 38:26.440 your office monitors or tracks this information another war to 38:26.440 --> 38:30.180 watch a goes into the I GE's channel arguing hands off or B. 38:30.180 --> 38:33.740 You're continued to monitor of the situation to see what actually 38:33.740 --> 38:34.950 happens at the end of the bag. 38:35.960 --> 38:38.460 The pete's starburst the just answer that. Sharon. 38:41.350 --> 38:44.880 That that the first touch going would be a sharp professional 38:44.880 --> 38:48.970 speak can rise and those are the individual set up victims feel 38:48.970 --> 38:51.900 comfortable speaking to sometimes they feel comfortable speaking 38:51.990 --> 38:55.380 someone with the neck command to date in that chain of command 38:55.610 --> 38:59.490 and said they'd would go and our report that they're feeling 38:59.520 --> 39:03.190 that they're being retaliate if it gets I'm asking previously 39:03.190 --> 39:07.530 said it could be resolved. I'm in the command chain but if not 39:07.530 --> 39:10.610 what I think is that it really gonna be successful within the 39:10.610 --> 39:14.240 army as the fact that we have these 14 every east on resource 39:14.240 --> 39:20.290 centers where we have combined all all our service to is and 39:20.340 --> 39:23.650 and sharp professional such as a starkly the victim advocate 39:24.070 --> 39:27.080 if they believe it's a situation of retaliation they can buy 39:27.080 --> 39:30.860 and to wreck the victim to the ici who would capture and then 39:30.860 --> 39:34.790 proceed with the investigative. I'm tired of things in a car 39:34.790 --> 39:39.050 start to your question as to whether my office tracks this information 39:39.270 --> 39:41.150 we have not done so in the. Past. 39:43.400 --> 39:46.350 Yes or you know I can hear question points to the importance 39:46.350 --> 39:49.510 of the that education and awareness piece of the action and the 39:49.650 --> 39:52.630 the at and we do it and we can to we will continue to do with 39:52.790 --> 39:56.330 of notifying and informing and educating the folks that could 39:56.330 --> 39:59.400 be that first touch point whether it's one of the resources available 39:59.470 --> 40:03.060 specific of door sexual solve victim a warbeck a man leadership 40:03.060 --> 40:07.130 team uh that they understand that one that uh allegation is made 40:07.130 --> 40:10.960 they've gotta take action um and that action is typically gonna 40:10.960 --> 40:14.090 be refer to the inspector general command to him at an initial 40:14.090 --> 40:16.950 investigation to determine whether this hedge down though reprise 40:16.950 --> 40:20.200 a retaliation bath or whether this is down the Oster says I'm 40:20.200 --> 40:23.800 out treatment path uh and and white army is um you know the the 40:23.800 --> 40:27.590 I G runs their process whittle necessarily fall walk. But clearly 40:27.590 --> 40:30.430 the results of those investigations are important to us. 40:31.770 --> 40:35.520 Grown Johnson dry take care about the appeal westy lovelace help 40:35.520 --> 40:38.040 to sell with that too but a fighting the requirement that that 40:38.040 --> 40:41.310 was mentioned and no one of the other member statements to ted 40:41.360 --> 40:45.270 must we case management groups will mal asking monitor a any 40:45.270 --> 40:49.160 were tell a tory a accusations ever made on behalf of a victim 40:49.570 --> 40:52.430 and that the guidance today and will be the de that case will 40:52.430 --> 40:56.180 be tracked by the yeah chair of like a Spanish from group until 40:56.210 --> 40:59.840 conclusion the hat a quick conclusion has been addressed whether 40:59.840 --> 41:01.690 that's in the in a a command. 41:02.290 --> 41:05.800 A level a depending on the type of the accusation whether it's 41:05.800 --> 41:09.060 at the I G levels soak the oversight becomes to case management 41:09.060 --> 41:13.750 group chair I'm by the by westy policy for that to occur attacked. 41:13.890 --> 41:16.470 I believe that apply stalls or service to show. 41:17.410 --> 41:21.520 Um EMC weakened. We it does point do not monitor the I G activities 41:21.520 --> 41:24.290 but that's the out most of the outcomes would certainly be of 41:24.290 --> 41:25.430 importance to us as well. 41:27.500 --> 41:31.040 That I was eight where opera last Colonel can times a climate 41:31.220 --> 41:33.500 stirred in place of a wing commander there is a distillation 41:33.530 --> 41:37.080 winter and raid early in the inspector general a report for me 41:37.080 --> 41:41.820 to stash orly some number of of our complain to regard tory retaliation hm. 41:42.380 --> 41:46.490 It's your assertion former or a boxed up were named gemma retaliation 41:46.490 --> 41:49.790 back candice beer elected investigation him. I would know law that. 41:50.320 --> 41:53.530 And Mandela no other where was close to or how we're drizzle 41:54.020 --> 41:57.680 form in the in that was it whether he was a search was or retaliation 41:57.680 --> 42:01.270 or or any other kind of a formal depression retaliation. 42:01.840 --> 42:05.370 Shoulders aid eve feedback loop for then where does curran inspector 42:05.370 --> 42:06.190 general system. 42:06.740 --> 42:09.660 That is tracked and regularly briefed up to the escalation commander. 42:10.290 --> 42:13.900 All will it rich we could share the same words reverse our centers 42:13.900 --> 42:15.510 of gravity in there's in this pepper. 42:16.290 --> 42:19.130 One of the problems order. We're bringing tears to try to do 42:19.130 --> 42:24.740 to map and for that is it victims the have the air 51% of the 42:24.740 --> 42:29.480 vote when they're deciding how much of the uh resources to use 42:29.850 --> 42:33.440 hall a hallmark truly their utilize the it's feces to stop or 42:33.440 --> 42:37.660 re a so sharks to help them cruelly walk through this process 42:38.040 --> 42:42.330 to report retaliation to get a that the representation may need 42:42.330 --> 42:44.750 to help stop retaliation editors. 42:45.340 --> 42:48.590 To their perhaps per sheaves but to there's also over real. 42:49.250 --> 42:53.240 So. There is a problem with that because that they choose not 42:53.240 --> 42:57.180 to use those resources you and all of us are are shows all put 42:57.180 --> 42:57.890 them forward. 42:58.430 --> 43:02.990 That search warrants and they mean reporters retaliation that 43:02.990 --> 43:06.890 is room for real to them when the survey data likely described. 43:07.600 --> 43:11.980 It through rather change. But may very willingly for of they're 43:12.040 --> 43:13.690 for personal reasons not. 43:14.290 --> 43:17.470 Use a re. Sure she's really have stood up to walk them directly 43:17.470 --> 43:19.670 to get the help they need to stop every year. 43:20.590 --> 43:23.960 Thank you so just to close a loop owned us round of questioning. 43:24.740 --> 43:29.400 I know that some services do published a for command wide consumption 43:29.400 --> 43:32.320 for service. Why consumption the results of courts martial. 43:32.870 --> 43:37.460 The does any service publish any results of these retaliation 43:37.460 --> 43:42.240 complaints in terms of being founded unfounded outcomes has anyone 43:42.240 --> 43:42.690 do that. 43:44.220 --> 43:46.520 No sir I don't believe that we do in the army to. 43:47.360 --> 43:50.430 These would you see in it vanished into in that in terms of having 43:50.430 --> 43:54.390 some better transparency to build trust among the people that 43:54.780 --> 43:58.980 if I make a complaint um that will probably be dealt with appropriately 43:59.010 --> 44:01.110 or PC. It has not helpful. 44:02.880 --> 44:07.920 Act I would offer if if we do about a very clearly defying um it. 44:08.180 --> 44:11.940 It manner in other words will we're or specific about what be. 44:12.580 --> 44:17.010 What was accused of what was found um men their bit back to see 44:17.010 --> 44:20.100 some value in and mixture people or where that we we take those 44:20.100 --> 44:23.370 actions sirs. Well about what expected perhaps to be up that 44:23.560 --> 44:27.770 I'm a prayer probably anonymized just like these fudgy reports 44:27.770 --> 44:31.350 the semi annual. I G reports that the deity I geed makes on the 44:31.350 --> 44:36.180 issue of retaliation that that would then be at least one indication 44:36.180 --> 44:39.260 to people in the system but if I do mike a complaint and if there 44:39.260 --> 44:42.750 is retaliation something will happen and acas are just if I could 44:42.750 --> 44:45.830 that i've been of course you know as of as a violation the you 44:45.830 --> 44:49.660 see in day. If founded and and could very well go to a court 44:49.660 --> 44:52.520 martial which the navy does publish the results from show it 44:52.520 --> 44:52.850 would not. 44:54.210 --> 44:57.430 Clearly if if there isn't a or an accusation mistaken a court 44:57.430 --> 45:00.630 martial enough finding is made that will be published right that 45:00.630 --> 45:04.560 just to be clear on destroyed. What the dod. I G reports is not 45:04.590 --> 45:07.900 those but people receiving fortune Apple a memo for concern or 45:07.900 --> 45:12.630 counseling or reprimand or some other action regarding the retaliation 45:12.700 --> 45:15.300 that they inflicted upon someone else. So that was when I was 45:15.300 --> 45:16.820 getting a thank you all very much. 45:17.900 --> 45:18.570 And retreat. 45:19.430 --> 45:24.460 Here I'm a feat feature be spoke about on the army a talk about 45:24.590 --> 45:28.020 tools for dressing retaliation and I think clamoring quark talk 45:28.020 --> 45:31.870 about strategies for responding to retaliation. I think maybe 45:31.870 --> 45:34.690 an air force talked about responses to retaliation could any 45:34.690 --> 45:38.570 Chevy so talk a little bit about what those are specifically 45:38.600 --> 45:43.190 in particular with regard to your ability to help people a dress 45:43.540 --> 45:45.080 cop social with cabbage. 45:46.570 --> 45:48.280 It's just No in man. 45:49.590 --> 45:54.700 One of the things to me are are meat and from terminology perspective 45:54.700 --> 45:58.500 than not in my ice lotta were calming it campaign. But the and 45:58.500 --> 46:02.530 sergeant major of the army although with us fars a campaign it 46:02.530 --> 46:04.110 really gets back to. 46:04.610 --> 46:09.810 Um. Fact that in the army backed first line level of leadership 46:10.150 --> 46:15.480 and back to our leader is the one backs responsible for on. 46:16.130 --> 46:21.710 Creating a culture of trust dignity and respect in the unit and 46:21.710 --> 46:25.130 we believe that this really is going to be the key to help us 46:25.290 --> 46:29.120 get after particularly the social retaliation we've done a lot 46:29.120 --> 46:35.630 of things in terms of issuing direct is a policies and Top down 46:35.630 --> 46:39.790 approach and we believe this grass roots approach from the bottom 46:39.790 --> 46:42.960 up will help the suggest that in that first of all. 46:44.090 --> 46:48.360 We're gonna make sure that those wide leaders understand how 46:48.360 --> 46:54.060 we D fine retaliation. How do they go about recognizing retaliation 46:54.480 --> 46:57.190 their responsibility to intervene. 46:57.740 --> 47:00.320 If they see and what they can do to help. 47:01.010 --> 47:01.840 Correct back. 47:02.570 --> 47:04.850 And I'm report it. 47:05.670 --> 47:08.310 When bonds when that's necessary. 47:09.120 --> 47:12.980 We're gonna start in she in the starch a major the army is pulling 47:12.980 --> 47:15.460 in about forty. It's clot later it's. 47:16.070 --> 47:20.240 Across our commands all components of the army reserve components 47:20.240 --> 47:23.920 as well as active components and they're being very deliberate 47:23.970 --> 47:27.820 about the selection of peace quiet leaders these a proven squad 47:27.820 --> 47:32.750 leaders when you look a class their units on dairy of responsibility 47:32.980 --> 47:37.450 that be have success in a culture of chonsp dignity and respect. 47:37.970 --> 47:41.480 And we're going to poles then man and talk to them about what 47:41.480 --> 47:43.600 a what is it that a huge you. 47:44.150 --> 47:47.080 How was it that you in sheriff that you have that climate. 47:47.660 --> 47:52.040 And how can we share the space practices and get them to owned 47:52.040 --> 47:55.640 this and develop away the head that we can share pasta forces. 47:55.830 --> 47:59.160 So we really believe this is a powerful concepts and we're very 47:59.160 --> 48:00.080 excited about it. 48:02.690 --> 48:04.100 The spam um. You know. 48:04.790 --> 48:08.340 Been interesting thing is that we enact in our navy instruction 48:08.340 --> 48:10.310 social retaliation is not to five. 48:10.880 --> 48:13.560 The elements that would contribute to what social retaliation 48:13.560 --> 48:16.520 says sorts of term mitchell that we use often that's used often 48:16.990 --> 48:20.820 that ethic when that's said we have to make sure educate enough 48:20.820 --> 48:23.610 to asked for the next question which is are we talking about. 48:24.110 --> 48:28.170 Retaliation which used the professional or the the withholding 48:28.200 --> 48:31.520 of a something positive or imposing something negative as a result 48:31.520 --> 48:32.510 a reporting a crime. 48:33.020 --> 48:37.110 For debt foster says I'm now treatment which use in in some cases 48:37.110 --> 48:40.560 oscar says images what people think of as so for retaliation 48:40.560 --> 48:44.760 but again it's very specific softer system is is the XP is the 48:45.090 --> 48:49.150 oscar citing um because they reporter crime with the intent of 48:49.150 --> 48:52.390 discouraging the reporting are fern with just a show that's why 48:52.430 --> 48:55.300 the again back to the education effort years. We've as we talk 48:55.300 --> 48:59.350 about this and better understand what's going on to to understand 48:59.350 --> 49:02.430 there's a there's a legal side of this are matched of retaliation 49:02.430 --> 49:03.460 matched reprise or. 49:04.070 --> 49:07.900 Um that's foster says him and that smell treatment with those intent. 49:08.600 --> 49:12.880 Goes up I think fit into a pretty well defined response processes 49:12.880 --> 49:15.900 as you asked because it's pitch to potential violation of the 49:15.900 --> 49:19.410 U.S CM jerry and it goes to the I G for investigation the men 49:19.440 --> 49:22.410 were for pro poor really were coast of the commander for investigation 49:22.410 --> 49:24.660 depending on the fitch author says more maltreatment. 49:25.170 --> 49:28.430 So that apartheid but I think we understand the response to. 49:29.140 --> 49:32.020 We're other piece of minutes which is dust the spot. I would 49:32.050 --> 49:35.600 caucus their social may get of consequential so where are are 49:35.890 --> 49:38.150 being a victim of sexual salt and reporting that. 49:38.750 --> 49:42.500 I'm that's where we broaden the scope and start talking about 49:42.950 --> 49:47.270 a treating each other with dignity and respect um relies debt 49:47.300 --> 49:51.750 me to what you do a it it around a victim of sexual salt. 49:51.750 --> 49:56.000 We may be perceived as retaliation roster search um uh and and 49:56.000 --> 49:58.980 in fact you have no idea. It's perceive that way. I I acquitted 49:58.980 --> 50:02.800 a little bit too uh perhaps a shipmates who's lost a loved one 50:03.260 --> 50:07.020 a a traumatic event and ends chum folks of just not comfortable 50:07.020 --> 50:10.070 having a conversation with someone who's been in those circumstances. 50:10.070 --> 50:10.760 So they avoid. 50:11.670 --> 50:14.930 I'm back from the uh from the person in that case was lost a 50:14.930 --> 50:18.250 lot one that that's that's negative them in that's not a good 50:18.250 --> 50:22.380 thing op same with a victim of sexual solomon that that their 50:22.380 --> 50:26.050 shipmates some of them may just be uncomfortable uh in avoiding 50:26.280 --> 50:30.590 a ensued this goes back to treat you know the the idea of embrace 50:30.590 --> 50:35.230 those victims um. Yes it may be difficult but but what you do 50:35.230 --> 50:36.690 maybe perceive negatively. 50:37.490 --> 50:40.600 To the other side. We asked educate that victims as well that 50:40.760 --> 50:43.740 are much was owed to rosier. What what is happening to you the 50:43.740 --> 50:45.640 you may perceive as retaliation. 50:46.280 --> 50:50.570 Uh it it's bad and we wanna stop it. But man not in fact the 50:50.570 --> 50:53.450 we're actually retaliation but let's talk about what it it was 50:53.790 --> 50:57.870 a and and try to help you get through that help you shipmates 50:57.870 --> 51:01.970 understand what they're doing and and put those two pieces together. 51:01.970 --> 51:06.240 So the that part of the responds to what would not fall in the 51:06.240 --> 51:09.590 legal definitions of retaliation reprisals Oster says are maltreatment. 51:10.160 --> 51:13.190 Is is a broader effort and it's not just sexual sold it's for 51:13.240 --> 51:17.390 any victims um to to understand what each being gonna much being. Pursued. 51:19.680 --> 51:24.160 There we have very similar answers idea with dean from one element 51:24.160 --> 51:27.020 than I would say as we cast our light on the us. 51:27.550 --> 51:30.710 The formal side of reporting and who are you report to and how 51:30.710 --> 51:33.800 you handle when you are when your chin or beastie use that you 51:33.900 --> 51:37.420 have someone say had been retaliated against making sure that 51:37.420 --> 51:42.450 we have defying the tools to the commanders to those local people 51:42.680 --> 51:47.900 did get to that report into the right playing and the right action 51:47.900 --> 51:52.050 is taken and I don't think we've had that right to um it's very 51:52.120 --> 51:55.390 either did depending on the type of reporting who's making it 51:55.790 --> 51:58.790 the can going a multiple lands and we haven't done a good job. 51:59.300 --> 52:02.480 In the past of defining that to the decision maker. 52:03.110 --> 52:04.440 At the point of impact. 52:05.040 --> 52:08.360 To open get that victim of the right recourse of that that's 52:08.360 --> 52:12.250 kinda the formal side. But is the admit points out the harder 52:12.250 --> 52:15.660 part is a dress seem. I'm human dignity. 52:16.250 --> 52:20.600 How to we interact with each other sense of Thai zing our young 52:20.600 --> 52:25.540 people to um understanding the consequences of that there are 52:25.540 --> 52:29.220 actions around other people on bats where we're targeting in 52:29.220 --> 52:32.220 our leadership areas with where we're action leveraging some 52:32.220 --> 52:33.610 of the leadership uh research that. 52:34.470 --> 52:37.680 It's made nude to it now but with some of the people who've been 52:37.680 --> 52:40.090 on your bel-air if the rest of the day. 52:40.610 --> 52:45.250 I'm just to help them understand the repercussions of those personal interactions. 52:45.790 --> 52:49.780 That's that's a that's a hard task to get to to get young people 52:49.780 --> 52:53.690 to understand the impacts of what what they're doing and how 52:53.690 --> 52:57.120 that affects to those around them. And helping them understand 52:57.120 --> 52:59.260 that there are forming. Perceptions. 53:00.510 --> 53:03.510 The thing you'd be sensitive to as a relates to anyone else whether 53:03.510 --> 53:06.970 it's a victim or just someone else's down and out to work or 53:07.060 --> 53:10.350 or anything like that that's where we're targeting our our tools 53:10.740 --> 53:14.710 um we sign in many cases where do we just are making the known. 53:15.310 --> 53:20.060 Where these issues are so by asking in the sian geez. We're able 53:20.060 --> 53:23.600 to start dating stories that we can handle leaders and say. 53:24.140 --> 53:27.300 When you talk your victims are you aware of how it's been communicated. 53:27.890 --> 53:31.110 And uh and we're trying to standardize that in all of our training. 53:31.640 --> 53:35.050 Um to get the word out to a ticket to all those different elements 53:35.050 --> 53:38.340 of leaders from the very senior ones banda were surgeons are 53:38.340 --> 53:40.330 a and our core punch foreign Co GE. 53:44.420 --> 53:48.180 Yeah. That's true JuJu leaders loose gravel national efforts 53:48.180 --> 53:51.640 to rehab. I would describe go. What warmer fire air for choose 53:51.640 --> 53:56.510 to hp its aggression Cielo will first fly to barge level on a 53:56.510 --> 53:58.220 guy mentioned important of empathy. 53:58.990 --> 54:02.320 I'm a teacher it positive trait to discretion we near forced 54:02.420 --> 54:06.190 dish private with for masters as he classes or worse talking 54:06.190 --> 54:10.280 about making our airmen more resilient and shells but this separates 54:10.280 --> 54:13.580 the concept is robert trains mole train models that we're just 54:13.580 --> 54:17.640 going after that drew dresses turn on the social business concept 54:17.640 --> 54:19.450 of of us or for charge issue. 54:20.310 --> 54:24.230 I'd like to bring up for a process tricia thing them me the For 54:24.230 --> 54:27.960 different prickly. One we doing about that or bend it for a while 54:27.960 --> 54:30.480 and and eddie izart us for the transfer process. 54:31.040 --> 54:34.200 That is 85 grip process that allows the victim. 54:34.730 --> 54:38.200 Who in their perceptions being retaliate against to request that 54:38.230 --> 54:41.810 the transfer all made that i've i've worked those on the other 54:41.810 --> 54:44.180 end of of the spectrum as well to. 54:44.700 --> 54:48.710 Buy provide dead victim it too old to groom shelford from met 54:48.740 --> 54:53.650 rashid or rio retaliation. Sure stroll uh in detectors and she 54:54.130 --> 54:57.830 collector bear trump start over or stir with a a a a new nation 54:57.830 --> 55:00.810 ariel and in stirred struck issuing processing of place. 55:01.400 --> 55:04.810 That I think is proven to be an effective tool for this complex 55:04.810 --> 55:08.360 problem on an image opinion lives are cross church. Punch. 55:11.460 --> 55:14.460 Up some of that you've Paolo not your old enough to remember 55:14.460 --> 55:19.060 that when we began our anti drug activities. It wasn't enlisted problem. 55:19.060 --> 55:20.200 And that's how we treated. 55:20.800 --> 55:23.610 I'm I'm hearing that we're doing some really great things that 55:23.650 --> 55:27.420 the first line supervisor level in the enlisted ranks is there 55:27.420 --> 55:29.770 and bubbling program for now have its. 55:31.440 --> 55:34.630 In the air force tourists a letter sent every love all appear 55:34.630 --> 55:36.260 me in particular show are. 55:36.920 --> 55:40.440 Uh for foreman in the a session should crawl through or commission. 55:40.440 --> 55:41.030 Sure shoes. 55:41.610 --> 55:43.900 A bachelor perp armor for training. 55:44.750 --> 55:49.770 Arctic mission in Maine in our on every level or arm beginning 55:49.850 --> 55:50.870 mid senior level. 55:51.700 --> 55:55.220 Fresh motor station. We grow socially we teach. I'm not always 55:55.460 --> 55:58.570 overdress at their level. But what to expect that russia to next 55:58.570 --> 55:59.920 level of commander supervision. 56:00.980 --> 56:04.330 Ma'am over the last two years we've been very heavily focused image. 56:04.330 --> 56:06.340 I'm sure you're aware and commanders. 56:07.040 --> 56:11.380 And I seen one of the side effects of that was perhaps that we 56:11.380 --> 56:12.350 admit collected. 56:12.880 --> 56:17.080 Some of the younger in listed to first or a leader so it's not 56:17.080 --> 56:17.950 that to the 56:19.310 --> 56:22.950 To ignored the officers. We've spent quite a bit of time addressing 56:22.950 --> 56:24.790 at the have a command climate mobiles. 56:25.520 --> 56:29.870 Um and as we review back. We question if we've given the right tools. 56:30.720 --> 56:34.460 At the same time to the to the goes first white leaders highways 56:34.460 --> 56:37.380 it that we can have an 87 to 90 percent. 56:37.980 --> 56:41.150 Confidence our survey that my commander will do the right thing 56:41.530 --> 56:43.720 but still have such high levels of. 56:44.300 --> 56:49.610 Um barriers and and concerns over retaliation those numbers don't 56:49.610 --> 56:50.550 seem to line up. 56:51.080 --> 56:52.940 And as he has you know for the marine corps. 56:53.550 --> 56:58.430 Um we did it up a very effective job of training for nco's. 56:58.950 --> 57:02.090 I'm in a in a program of that's that's been recognized. 57:02.780 --> 57:05.830 But as we look back on it one of the things we didn't include 57:05.830 --> 57:10.170 in the training for them was how to use a leader have a discussion 57:10.460 --> 57:12.640 on a very difficult topic. 57:13.380 --> 57:17.500 With your near peer blanche core polls encore polls um and we 57:17.500 --> 57:20.840 felt like we owe them that type of training them and how to be 57:20.840 --> 57:24.500 a leader and and it and an instructor and not she arrests. 57:25.070 --> 57:29.080 And the intervened are and uh and and a personal don't do this 57:29.080 --> 57:32.520 type of type of fangs soak. So we've that's why we shifted our 57:32.520 --> 57:35.500 tension um in some of those areas because we felt like we can 57:35.500 --> 57:36.240 shorten that. 57:38.010 --> 57:43.350 The First ones are worldly enough that they don't have the same 57:43.380 --> 57:47.070 can say saying concerns we get the same training today to the 57:47.070 --> 57:51.470 same beauty and we we look at them as As almost a call wheat 57:51.470 --> 57:54.130 corn there a development and education. 57:54.160 --> 57:58.870 Yeah. Act yes ma'am cracked from atop down. So the vice chicken 57:58.870 --> 58:01.850 ev operations said art maybe flight officer a suggestion post 58:01.850 --> 58:05.880 in this morning on talk to us about retaliation a and so from 58:05.880 --> 58:09.600 the top one down command. Leadership course a a it ever seen 58:09.600 --> 58:13.320 enlisted academies um and then on down through to parma division 58:13.320 --> 58:16.600 offer courses and then down into the a petty officer training 58:16.600 --> 58:18.660 as well so uh across the board instead. 58:19.290 --> 58:23.160 And similarly in the army and the chief of bath rubble for the 58:23.160 --> 58:26.410 last several years east helps um. It's with the two three and 58:26.410 --> 58:30.730 four-star commander was and it's illiterate down um as well as 58:30.910 --> 58:35.120 we found in all of our educational programs to include um. 58:35.300 --> 58:38.540 This is the titular topic can now are really trying to get at 58:38.580 --> 58:41.150 the grass look that's efforts to bring it from the bottom. Up. 58:44.030 --> 58:45.290 Thank you to um. 58:46.190 --> 58:48.910 In a said some question will so I'm a little puzzled. 58:49.800 --> 58:51.510 I uh I'm. 58:52.300 --> 58:57.120 I acted like the an idea of the timeframe a takes to deal with these. 58:57.800 --> 58:59.860 But a complaint that goes to the I'd. She. 59:02.390 --> 59:03.170 I mean no. 59:03.740 --> 59:06.970 Does a bureaucratic issue because it's am. 59:08.020 --> 59:13.310 And that was a violation of a nap you see engine also generally 59:13.350 --> 59:15.450 retaliation professional retaliation. 59:16.620 --> 59:18.470 I justices and I guess to a. 59:19.130 --> 59:21.250 Are handled by the I cheese. 59:23.180 --> 59:27.210 Complain is made up most forget tomorrow where its main goes 59:27.210 --> 59:31.530 to the I G helen to take for to come back or to be reese opt suppose. 59:31.530 --> 59:32.300 The I G says. 59:33.710 --> 59:37.810 The us wry retaliation jail a social retaliation or it's something 59:37.810 --> 59:40.090 else helms that process take. 59:41.270 --> 59:43.030 A benyamin ants in ma'am. 59:43.540 --> 59:45.990 I can't answer that question. I have to take that back and get 59:45.990 --> 59:49.520 a response to you. Okay because what I'm concerned that it is. 59:50.080 --> 59:54.450 Up I am so maintained is completely we're on a takes at least 59:54.850 --> 59:55.660 a few months. 59:56.420 --> 59:57.670 What happens to as the 59:58.970 --> 01:00:03.400 Victim is complaining about to retaliation during that time. 01:00:04.710 --> 01:00:07.860 A issue now to people to ask but that's what worries me about 01:00:07.860 --> 01:00:11.260 a by for katie process. This really weren't going. 01:00:11.860 --> 01:00:12.820 Yeah the victim. 01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:16.550 Here she doesn't really care what pigeonhole uniform. 01:00:16.710 --> 01:00:17.500 That's that's it. 01:00:18.030 --> 01:00:22.200 She once there he won a resolution to the problem some old the 01:00:22.200 --> 01:00:23.330 concerned a bat. 01:00:24.200 --> 01:00:25.650 Shall we deal ways. 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:27.530 The. Complaint. 01:00:28.590 --> 01:00:29.330 Right away. 01:00:29.870 --> 01:00:35.130 Okay so that's one issue. I had secondly. What. I know that when 01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:39.840 that them military started really focusing on nation sexual us all. 01:00:40.790 --> 01:00:45.180 They need developed a halls see Aires of ways of reporting. 01:00:46.220 --> 01:00:48.940 Anonymous reporting restricted reporting. 01:00:49.470 --> 01:00:52.340 Any can report to you trap when you can report to your command 01:00:52.340 --> 01:00:55.710 even report to saarc a halt variety people. 01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:00.690 Is it as coolly you're a blue where you can report. 01:01:01.460 --> 01:01:02.340 A tally nation. 01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:05.210 Just a question. 01:01:06.240 --> 01:01:09.100 Or did do we me have more clarity in that. 01:01:11.180 --> 01:01:14.280 Then winter I can I see quick ice ingredient in to have more 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.060 clarity in what we're will we're working on that them. 01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:21.070 As I said earlier use it to take you to the down at the debt 01:01:21.070 --> 01:01:24.150 plagued mobiles where the leadership Lewis's make intruder aware 01:01:24.150 --> 01:01:27.130 of post processors. I don't mean in any of these questions to 01:01:27.130 --> 01:01:30.780 be critical. I think military is undertaken enormous caskets 01:01:30.780 --> 01:01:34.420 made many many important strides but to be job this and finish 01:01:34.420 --> 01:01:39.800 it scientists china spam star gotta ride. So many areas of concern 01:01:39.800 --> 01:01:41.340 least to me I'm. 01:01:41.910 --> 01:01:46.460 So is anybody agree or disagree that in B useful. 01:01:47.090 --> 01:01:47.750 I have. 01:01:48.860 --> 01:01:53.790 More defying earn recording options story clarified the reporting 01:01:53.790 --> 01:01:55.140 actions retaliation. 01:01:56.050 --> 01:01:59.120 And it's it's also are question to the I gees but I'm asking 01:01:59.120 --> 01:02:00.230 it to him. 01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:04.080 Uh I would agree mehmet part of our education effort here is 01:02:04.080 --> 01:02:07.230 to reinforce what what is available and and make it more clear 01:02:07.230 --> 01:02:08.780 in a certain clarity um. 01:02:09.630 --> 01:02:13.870 Nick better like creatures. I'm just come to mind on the what 01:02:13.870 --> 01:02:17.630 are we do during that time and look at that pace is as was mentioned 01:02:17.670 --> 01:02:20.610 be expedited transfer certainly one cool that we have to. 01:02:21.210 --> 01:02:23.550 Move the victim. So more awesome at least where there were rip 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:27.210 into the alleged reprise a retaliation to current not dare. 01:02:27.590 --> 01:02:30.970 I also think I'm the victim legal counsel special victim council 01:02:30.970 --> 01:02:35.490 we come peel season. The navy is another a of of educate tools 01:02:35.490 --> 01:02:39.600 for the victim to help them right from the beginning to understand 01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:43.260 what's going on and an advocate for them straw in the legal process. 01:02:43.260 --> 01:02:46.090 But a they could server Ronnie ici process as well. 01:02:47.090 --> 01:02:50.780 And MIT that when the report goes in that doesn't eliminate as 01:02:50.810 --> 01:02:51.940 as long as the victim. 01:02:52.700 --> 01:02:56.110 I asked for it support from their sharks victim advocates. 01:02:56.420 --> 01:03:00.950 So it's it's not the dead victim doesn't have a access to support. 01:03:01.470 --> 01:03:06.340 From the men had that reporters moon is made to make accommodations 01:03:06.340 --> 01:03:10.630 it work that again assuming that as was pointed out the victim 01:03:10.630 --> 01:03:13.170 has 51% of voters who knows about. 01:03:13.850 --> 01:03:17.800 Um the case um but it's in that she dad victim is not sitting 01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:21.600 on an island waiting for the I G to combat what's up a response 01:03:21.600 --> 01:03:24.930 a have access to support from day one right I think that the 01:03:24.970 --> 01:03:29.400 other issue in and uh it's a something that mr. Taylor race earlier um. 01:03:30.020 --> 01:03:34.930 This um for away today as a really important going and I think 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.880 it's been raised a little bit Iran's paddle which is. 01:03:39.080 --> 01:03:43.310 A having better data about what the problem relates. 01:03:44.270 --> 01:03:47.820 And the nature of the problem leak stand of the problem and really 01:03:47.820 --> 01:03:48.870 what you doing that. 01:03:50.090 --> 01:03:53.920 So I know you mention de crone jenson and you were keeping track 01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:55.860 of that incident rich. 01:03:56.580 --> 01:04:01.080 Two. Victims complained about retaliation. It was resolved. 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.510 But resume seems to me I get very good outcome. 01:04:06.260 --> 01:04:09.850 Crop seems to have been happening handled in a good apc. 01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:17.030 But It would be great if you could keep track of a Tsang said that. 01:04:17.610 --> 01:04:20.060 After six months or after you you could say no. 01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:21.170 We had. 01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:23.550 Hundred complaints. 01:04:24.120 --> 01:04:28.040 Terror about 25 is them or misunderstanding to resolve them right 01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:28.720 away in. 01:04:29.500 --> 01:04:34.040 Ten of them we went to into the I jean nine dad convict him. 01:04:35.120 --> 01:04:38.740 Still in prison july for something to secure ma'am. I may have. 01:04:39.250 --> 01:04:42.930 Been like you know I it to the don't you think that it be a really 01:04:42.930 --> 01:04:45.120 good idea to have some kind of um. 01:04:45.720 --> 01:04:48.570 In some way of keeping track of the data what's happening here 01:04:48.570 --> 01:04:51.310 because I think one of the early a pass the reason I at the to 01:04:51.310 --> 01:04:54.230 some the occurred to me today from during the early one of the 01:04:54.230 --> 01:04:55.110 early a pals. 01:04:56.150 --> 01:04:58.200 Talking about Halle it and 40 days. 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:04.220 In terms of fighting retaliation to show people I'm that when 01:05:04.220 --> 01:05:09.330 you have retaliation acts taken really seriously in their results 01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.790 sell at a just throw this out to you and mama what I meant is 01:05:12.790 --> 01:05:16.610 that what madness are we going to a formal. I G report none that right. 01:05:17.370 --> 01:05:20.740 I was acting critical. I I just went out how you capturing this 01:05:20.770 --> 01:05:23.360 into the that'll be down through the case management group just 01:05:23.390 --> 01:05:27.250 as defined new recently and policy that the will begin to track 01:05:27.250 --> 01:05:30.570 that I'm in that's for use I can be trusts amy has a worse as 01:05:30.600 --> 01:05:33.380 the same thing man the army the secretary of the army issued 01:05:33.380 --> 01:05:37.480 a directive and beginning in march um and directed by biggie 01:05:37.570 --> 01:05:41.240 believe it was in january and so march was the first month back 01:05:41.540 --> 01:05:44.550 and Arce arms and a college case management group to. 01:05:45.100 --> 01:05:50.050 The pacific questions about retaliation back and way top showing him..