WEBVTT 00:01.880 --> 00:02.850 Fold freaking. 00:03.500 --> 00:05.940 And when members of those who were killed on nine eleven. 00:06.670 --> 00:09.620 Uh you given a strike this week you've helped us remember of 00:09.620 --> 00:11.810 the eight of you came down. 00:12.680 --> 00:13.410 I made the trip. 00:14.030 --> 00:17.990 You've given us the or use of those you've loved and lost. 00:18.780 --> 00:21.100 And through your where you are memories. 00:21.980 --> 00:24.430 Of their Determination. 00:25.030 --> 00:27.160 Their strength and their sacrifice you. 00:27.800 --> 00:28.710 Inspired us. 00:29.310 --> 00:32.920 Um and then I also wish to greet those who may be up and the 00:32.960 --> 00:36.350 the fit in family member sites in the continental United States. 00:36.980 --> 00:37.950 Course also welcome. 00:38.600 --> 00:42.960 Of the media and the Different a private group to are here. 00:43.730 --> 00:47.630 Um all i've given you know of my notes from the session this week. 00:48.590 --> 00:50.950 In the Open it up for questions. 00:51.620 --> 00:53.990 Uh after final comment this we talk about. 00:54.610 --> 00:57.840 This case an which I anticipate we will uh. 00:58.640 --> 01:01.930 The accused are presumed innocent must until proven guilty and 01:02.020 --> 01:04.670 the charges against them or merely. Accusations. 01:06.410 --> 01:08.430 Can I take a question. About. 01:10.860 --> 01:13.200 Just Yeah in. That. 01:16.940 --> 01:17.710 That's my office. 01:18.830 --> 01:20.130 If a hundred thousand. 01:20.790 --> 01:24.780 Yeah about one five for the thing out to the house. 01:26.750 --> 01:32.210 Yeah. The that this is all covered under a a bee can't there's 01:32.210 --> 01:35.730 a communications management moreover that was issued by the judge. 01:36.820 --> 01:38.740 Which Builds upon. 01:39.480 --> 01:43.000 Regulations that the facility commander has in place. 01:44.330 --> 01:47.450 In every important respect. 01:48.800 --> 01:49.500 These are. 01:50.550 --> 01:54.310 Why the special administrative measures that are used in our 01:54.310 --> 01:55.290 bureau of prisons. 01:55.850 --> 01:56.930 And why and detaining. 01:57.440 --> 02:00.550 Individuals deemed by the attorney general to require. 02:01.170 --> 02:05.120 Such special administrative measures and includes communications management. 02:06.160 --> 02:08.140 Uh you will not see letters from. 02:08.890 --> 02:09.750 A bowl Rosman. 02:10.610 --> 02:12.020 In immediate you won't see them. 02:12.690 --> 02:13.840 I'm leaving here so. 02:14.610 --> 02:18.000 Of those are in every important respect the the regulations here. 02:18.140 --> 02:19.370 There is litigation over them. 02:20.190 --> 02:22.040 Uh and all the that that that. 02:22.610 --> 02:24.390 This is now what are. 02:24.890 --> 02:27.200 Those. That's good. 02:31.280 --> 02:34.220 He. We all that's it. 02:37.840 --> 02:41.770 Right. Yeah you the communication for careful. We manage. 02:42.460 --> 02:45.970 There's communications management units and terra haute Indiana. 02:47.220 --> 02:49.410 Uh and and those restrictions. 02:49.920 --> 02:52.040 Balanced very important. Concerns. 02:53.400 --> 02:55.710 Of Security. 02:57.110 --> 03:00.260 Fair guess access to counsel lee's. There's there are things 03:00.260 --> 03:02.340 that worked here are that have to be balanced. 03:03.060 --> 03:06.690 And the special administrative measures recognize that the judges 03:06.690 --> 03:07.300 were in. 03:08.180 --> 03:11.880 A couple of exhibiting team recognizes that we just muesli that 03:11.880 --> 03:14.930 the As for. 03:17.150 --> 03:17.880 Right yeah. 03:18.440 --> 03:19.560 Yeah you're going. 03:21.800 --> 03:25.220 The on just pointing out the special administrative measures 03:25.220 --> 03:27.160 within the bureau prison system include. 03:27.840 --> 03:31.370 Ways of in shoring that. Communications. 03:32.020 --> 03:35.450 Are managed it's called a communications management unit this 03:35.450 --> 03:36.160 seeing you. 03:37.110 --> 03:41.870 Um. To in sure of that that's security concerns are balanced 03:41.870 --> 03:44.760 appropriately with all those other settings are confinement must 03:44.760 --> 03:48.580 that none of which is to ensure people have access to counsel. 03:49.320 --> 03:50.240 And representations. 03:51.440 --> 03:54.950 So no I wasn't saying that but I'm saying in every important respects. 03:55.700 --> 03:57.140 The restrictions here. 03:57.960 --> 04:01.110 Matched those in special administrative measures and if you read 04:01.110 --> 04:05.060 the litigation and that and the submissions of both sides will 04:05.060 --> 04:09.210 see that that of a lot of people are taken painstaking care tried out. 04:09.810 --> 04:13.280 And sure all of these important values are reflected. 04:14.110 --> 04:17.060 But but security is an gonna be dispense worse. 04:17.660 --> 04:19.270 Um as result a loose. 04:20.270 --> 04:20.680 The show. 04:22.880 --> 04:25.630 Successful with emotional release earlier this week were you 04:25.630 --> 04:28.120 surprised about the judges of me. 04:28.710 --> 04:29.800 Expected to visit shoes. 04:31.610 --> 04:34.260 Surprises in the uh do surprise. 04:35.120 --> 04:36.850 Idea take one day at a time. 04:37.550 --> 04:38.220 We you know. 04:38.860 --> 04:43.520 We Dedicated a position mr. Play true that prison and I believe 04:43.550 --> 04:44.340 our position. 04:45.110 --> 04:46.250 Forcefully and well. 04:46.780 --> 04:49.040 Uh it's a sharply adversarial process. 04:49.730 --> 04:51.660 And the judge made ruling and will. 04:52.710 --> 04:54.370 Um will deal with. 04:55.130 --> 04:58.590 A every day ahead under the rules Wall and in accordance with 04:58.590 --> 05:01.910 those rulings doesn't mean we won't sometimes challenge shrinks 05:01.910 --> 05:04.920 because those are the rights of the government just as they are 05:04.920 --> 05:09.100 of the It's used to boast parties all parties are entitled to 05:09.100 --> 05:10.300 solace representations. 05:10.860 --> 05:11.410 But to 05:13.100 --> 05:16.580 But as of now that the results like announces the mister be no 05:16.580 --> 05:17.310 shade was. 05:18.050 --> 05:20.240 Back with the other foreign. Litigation. 05:22.750 --> 05:23.230 This song. 05:25.200 --> 05:25.460 This is. 05:27.840 --> 05:29.140 A letter to.. Muted. 05:30.200 --> 05:37.530 Muted. And it's too soon to say how you know this crime shows 05:37.720 --> 05:40.050 and on this show but maybe it's. 05:40.690 --> 05:45.520 Just so I'm really to for for the whole to 90 to litigation. 05:46.630 --> 05:50.210 And I'm happy to talk a little bit about discovery and access 05:50.210 --> 05:52.650 to information. I know that so an interesting. 05:53.310 --> 05:54.940 Burn interest the use of. 05:55.850 --> 05:57.700 Cheered by members of the medium. 05:59.250 --> 06:03.190 We have discovery obligations in every way again that we're those 06:03.190 --> 06:07.520 of prosecutors riled or just cyst prosecutor has and working rolled. 06:08.270 --> 06:10.090 Of Turning over. 06:11.180 --> 06:12.960 Information all information. 06:13.700 --> 06:14.520 That views. 06:15.130 --> 06:17.840 That is within the possession custom controlled. The government. 06:19.340 --> 06:20.770 Uh and that is. 06:21.440 --> 06:24.290 Either material to the preparation of the difference. 06:24.970 --> 06:27.430 You're were intended for use by the prosecution. 06:27.980 --> 06:28.920 In its case and she. 06:29.720 --> 06:30.400 The letter. 06:30.950 --> 06:34.450 My in the marrying over indian art person of that has been turned 06:34.450 --> 06:35.530 over there a few. 06:36.150 --> 06:39.070 Things that are still working their way through the final the 06:39.070 --> 06:41.800 classification and some things we actually. 06:42.480 --> 06:45.950 Come across we have a continuing duty of discovery but. 06:46.480 --> 06:52.080 Um that's your we've we've turned over 200 90000 pages of discovery. 06:52.660 --> 06:54.880 That some clout that the use of plus phone. 06:56.010 --> 06:58.430 That we're also have the obligation movie turnover. 06:59.700 --> 07:02.750 Uh and solos to under 90000 a good deal of it relates to this 07:02.750 --> 07:04.730 material to the preparation with the fans. 07:06.390 --> 07:09.550 Uh and let me just say with regard to intended for use by a trial 07:09.550 --> 07:11.280 council and the government's case in chief. 07:11.990 --> 07:16.760 That is a that will all be they'll have all of that and our case 07:16.760 --> 07:18.050 is gonna be on classified. 07:18.810 --> 07:20.420 We're committed to allowing. 07:21.580 --> 07:22.800 The People. 07:23.330 --> 07:24.730 To see the case. 07:25.760 --> 07:28.970 Nevertheless I mean that which it may be material. So the preparation 07:28.970 --> 07:30.190 with offense may be. 07:30.950 --> 07:36.630 So let maybe class for and we have of a process of very highly regulated. 07:37.490 --> 07:39.360 Process in which congress. 07:40.340 --> 07:44.300 In an inter branch dialogue with the executive has devolved rules. 07:44.300 --> 07:46.480 This is the classified information procedures. 07:47.010 --> 07:51.700 So. They still get everything that is non cumulative relevant 07:51.730 --> 07:52.380 and helpful. 07:53.150 --> 07:56.040 And the judge most see the original. 07:57.350 --> 08:00.880 See what is proposed to go to the you uh to the fans. 08:01.490 --> 08:02.360 And determine. 08:03.340 --> 08:07.130 That everything that is non cumulative and relevant margin overall 08:07.130 --> 08:07.880 than helpful. 08:08.560 --> 08:09.930 To the. Defense. 08:11.930 --> 08:12.770 Is there get it. 08:13.760 --> 08:19.840 So uh and that process is is fair it again balance is very important interests. 08:20.930 --> 08:24.180 A prosecutors don't just open their files to the world because 08:24.180 --> 08:26.810 that's the government's information. It's the people's information 08:26.810 --> 08:30.180 the don't turn over private medical records the don't turn this 08:30.180 --> 08:32.540 is we don't turn over national secrets. 08:33.180 --> 08:35.080 Only take it very seriously. 08:35.720 --> 08:38.860 And there is a process of people think they're not getting something 08:38.860 --> 08:41.650 where the should've gotten something they to make requests. 08:42.220 --> 08:44.600 Those things go to made judge. 08:45.190 --> 08:46.150 Who is independent. 08:47.030 --> 08:50.050 And uh and this everything we do. 08:50.670 --> 08:51.520 Can be appealed. 08:52.430 --> 08:55.850 In the case of these classified information summer use that was 08:55.850 --> 08:57.300 a well preserved on the record. 08:58.670 --> 09:02.600 All and the stuff that is very secret stays animal but it's there 09:02.630 --> 09:04.620 for a fellow judges going all the way out. 09:05.450 --> 09:06.480 As necessary. 09:07.070 --> 09:09.500 Through the DC circuit to the supreme court. 09:10.420 --> 09:13.650 They're all accountability mechanisms in this process. 09:14.250 --> 09:17.070 And they are important and the big one of. 09:17.810 --> 09:22.300 An important part of the the system to is though this prosecutions 09:22.300 --> 09:24.600 duty professional duty to do this. 09:25.230 --> 09:29.460 Appropriately. So the sometimes that that can get lost in the 09:29.460 --> 09:30.310 discussion but. 09:31.000 --> 09:34.160 Um. Discovery is a big part of the system. 09:38.870 --> 09:44.470 Right. Some believe that the defendants all genetic in the Housley 09:44.470 --> 09:46.200 all of them space one time. 09:46.810 --> 09:48.840 So. The the right that one. 09:49.520 --> 09:53.550 That gretchen but that that is beginning to do that that to name 09:53.680 --> 09:54.550 going the other. 09:55.130 --> 09:59.920 It is there any possibility all agree and CA there uh the government 09:59.920 --> 10:04.740 may be interested in one of the net so more proper trial in just 10:04.740 --> 10:05.680 a plea agreement. 10:06.210 --> 10:10.200 Thursday when they don't know that you can always go to the we'll 10:10.200 --> 10:14.630 turn a truck that talk about that kind of thing that can entertain 10:14.630 --> 10:18.690 hypothetical us about the future and what kinds of crossed for elections. 10:18.720 --> 10:19.410 We might take. 10:20.240 --> 10:23.690 Um so when it won the He declined to. 10:24.400 --> 10:25.560 Sir david are. 10:26.060 --> 10:30.340 You. Already been extended to be the best known for that. 10:31.700 --> 10:35.100 The on the us uh and and I can talk about things that happened 10:35.170 --> 10:35.900 mean those. 10:36.760 --> 10:40.490 On an old darby and magic on the two most recent examples of 10:40.490 --> 10:41.230 individuals to. 10:41.960 --> 10:45.530 Who has a pleaded guilty a and there's been a. 10:46.370 --> 10:48.900 Um. It's an agreement. 10:49.920 --> 10:51.580 Between the government in the shoes. 10:52.490 --> 10:54.090 So there are there is a of. 10:55.010 --> 10:57.290 And avenue within a system for. 10:57.840 --> 10:59.030 Cooperation for. 10:59.650 --> 11:01.170 Pleading guilty to. 11:02.220 --> 11:05.150 Was it in as part of an agreement with the government. 11:06.080 --> 11:08.750 Okay so I mean that's that's passed that's on the record we can 11:08.750 --> 11:10.970 give you all of those things you can read the stick relations 11:10.970 --> 11:15.790 of fact that are the basis for them the you know the the terminations 11:15.790 --> 11:16.340 of the core. 11:17.350 --> 11:18.010 And though you know. 11:18.860 --> 11:19.730 The proceedings there. 11:20.730 --> 11:22.960 And Sure you earlier. 11:23.630 --> 11:25.340 First yeah that's for us. 11:26.600 --> 11:29.790 A little baby earlier of. 11:30.500 --> 11:32.130 First go away with missions. 11:32.900 --> 11:35.530 Let me he's a date head. 11:36.780 --> 11:41.840 Okay so and more than with that in my wife it and the nhs. 11:42.440 --> 11:45.740 Move. We're a defendant's to you. 11:46.500 --> 11:47.820 For festival on one. 11:48.820 --> 11:49.490 Mark mark. 11:51.000 --> 11:51.470 This was. 11:52.820 --> 11:56.120 Aspects of the punishment that we see these cases are referred 11:56.120 --> 11:59.220 to military commissions and power to judge the that's about that 11:59.310 --> 12:01.590 I can does confirm that that's the the case. 12:02.100 --> 12:03.990 And they were they were properly referred to. 12:04.500 --> 12:05.470 To trial after. 12:06.320 --> 12:10.250 A prosecutions for the charges they were endorsed by the chief 12:10.250 --> 12:14.080 prosecutor and then went to the It's of the referrals foreign commuting. 12:14.080 --> 12:14.420 It's. Hard. 12:17.360 --> 12:18.490 To was so good. 12:19.520 --> 12:22.920 Okay. What's the also was a remote so but. 12:23.640 --> 12:24.770 With respect to. 12:25.390 --> 12:27.570 A party would do with. 12:28.160 --> 12:31.540 Does it work in this system saying into the spaces where ginger 12:31.660 --> 12:36.030 that the renovation of the other one so that all the simmons 12:36.030 --> 12:39.020 for isn't guilty. Good vision of all of the best. 12:39.770 --> 12:42.640 Two. Yeah and room for you to. 12:43.160 --> 12:45.640 Rule rules 1000 and one. 12:46.790 --> 12:50.270 Millett rules for military commission 1001 and the DVD that we 12:50.270 --> 12:54.200 made available to you it has the for manual for military commissions 12:54.200 --> 12:56.670 the first part of that is the new rules from altered mission. 12:56.670 --> 12:58.100 So when 1000 and one. 12:58.940 --> 13:04.560 And then of 1004 is the one relating to capital cases this and 13:04.560 --> 13:06.940 that have that should have a lot of eerie and you'll see a lot 13:06.940 --> 13:10.340 and they're chop it will be familiar the requirement for akbar 13:10.340 --> 13:11.960 beating circumstances. 13:12.590 --> 13:14.680 The different gates that are necessary. 13:15.470 --> 13:19.170 Through which a case must go before you ever get to be a judgement. 13:19.730 --> 13:21.180 Of a capital sons. 13:21.780 --> 13:26.670 And then within our system and you'll see this of they're to be. 13:27.560 --> 13:30.540 Other is that the canadian 40 has a clemency function as well. 13:31.410 --> 13:35.190 So the case then goes to the commuting a foreign who has a power 13:35.190 --> 13:35.970 supply mincing. 13:38.000 --> 13:40.120 But there's of their cygnets there are many. 13:40.920 --> 13:43.360 Of procedures and steps to insurers been. 13:44.440 --> 13:47.960 I carefully and that the Reasons moral judgment of the 13:49.270 --> 13:51.310 Paddle of injury has been. 13:51.970 --> 13:53.850 A fully engaged in the process.. That. 13:54.400 --> 13:59.050 That. I olive. 14:00.830 --> 14:04.060 Me. No one. 14:05.230 --> 14:07.380 And I don't I don't see in him to. 14:08.220 --> 14:08.550 Be. You. 14:12.260 --> 14:13.600 There are some things that. That. 14:16.970 --> 14:21.660 He there you write prose and then it's a hit the eyes of the 14:21.660 --> 14:24.740 soviet use a pencil can receive a letter. 14:26.600 --> 14:27.660 Our problem with that. 14:29.980 --> 14:30.530 The voting booth. 14:31.640 --> 14:34.730 But I mean that that what every in every important respect. 14:35.360 --> 14:37.480 Again these these restrictions. 14:38.300 --> 14:41.800 Past the balance security they have to balance access to the 14:41.800 --> 14:43.630 courts access to ones council. 14:44.390 --> 14:45.680 But it is not. Just. 14:47.880 --> 14:51.380 Any communication goes that's not the way it is with regard to 14:51.380 --> 14:53.390 any similarly situated with. Them. 14:57.740 --> 14:58.730 Yeah for these. 15:00.760 --> 15:02.370 Well I was on this. 15:03.090 --> 15:06.630 There's a a shade of correspondence between the then president 15:06.660 --> 15:09.900 of the American bar association and the commander of United States 15:09.900 --> 15:13.690 southern command and that I think it at loeffler a show freezer. 15:14.510 --> 15:16.850 And it was mr. Robinson's debut prison. 15:17.570 --> 15:20.690 And it's it's a lengthy correspondents just a coveted. 15:21.450 --> 15:22.950 It takes use Rue. 15:23.830 --> 15:28.410 Um. You know the that that the difficult balance that's going all. 15:29.020 --> 15:34.350 And the and why there is the a management of these issues and 15:35.070 --> 15:39.340 Uh we the vote letter from the self come commander back to the 15:39.340 --> 15:40.940 American bar association president. 15:41.830 --> 15:45.680 The has many of fantasies that show it and explains this relationship 15:45.680 --> 15:48.770 between these rules on special was from the measures. 15:49.610 --> 15:52.650 And how the of the right to counsel another incorporates are 15:52.650 --> 15:53.660 still being. Perspective. 15:56.820 --> 15:59.550 We're so proud that they're just. 16:00.650 --> 16:05.290 It's on the DVD de if you looking like mint resources or that 16:05.290 --> 16:08.050 we references so it's gets the same place where you'll find a 16:08.050 --> 16:10.790 matter for millimetre commissions images for for chuck to its 16:10.790 --> 16:13.140 in that side and also find the statute. 16:13.930 --> 16:18.830 Um. Beloved again another topic becomes opens discussion of of 16:18.860 --> 16:21.670 access to the two of material both by the lawyer. 16:22.910 --> 16:26.270 And it did in involves the communications thing indirectly because 16:26.500 --> 16:29.260 they wanna communicate with their clients away from her case. 16:30.010 --> 16:31.670 Very important right inability. 16:32.510 --> 16:38.390 So there's the discussion of of the To 13 in the indian do discussion. 16:39.460 --> 16:45.270 Um. The memorandum of understanding is another. Standard. 16:46.990 --> 16:51.160 In. The practice in the federal district courts and that's important 16:51.420 --> 16:53.140 because they the statute. 16:53.790 --> 16:55.520 The says section four of or. 16:56.540 --> 17:00.330 Classified information procedures actually do wrecks the judge 17:00.420 --> 17:02.740 says the judge cannot authorize. 17:03.400 --> 17:05.830 Access to classified. Information. 17:07.660 --> 17:10.060 Up except in accordance with the standards. 17:11.430 --> 17:13.690 Generally practiced in federal district court. 17:14.470 --> 17:18.950 And And we can provide uni there sort team of the most recent. 17:19.760 --> 17:23.550 Of international terrorism cases involving classified information 17:23.990 --> 17:27.670 and all of whom use demo use a bit of a protective were that require. 17:29.210 --> 17:33.520 Um council to sign a memorandum of understanding. So that's a standard. 17:34.070 --> 17:36.820 In general it so that so if you wanted to do that if you look 17:36.820 --> 17:40.250 in the statute. That's also when your references section military 17:40.250 --> 17:41.690 commissions act ten. 17:42.220 --> 17:43.460 United States quote. 17:44.060 --> 17:46.950 You're not really get down so nothing there's huge 10 United 17:46.950 --> 17:49.090 States cold nine 40 mine. 17:49.920 --> 17:50.840 P for. 17:51.620 --> 17:54.240 Bravo. Standard generally. 17:54.770 --> 17:58.030 Excepted in federal district courts and that is a standard. 17:58.280 --> 18:00.920 So I just wanna pointed out that these things are. 18:01.770 --> 18:05.620 Although ways we balancing very important about its to consorted together. 18:07.620 --> 18:08.000 And it. 18:08.630 --> 18:10.580 He said that the and for so it's. 18:13.220 --> 18:17.790 So he Did begin those two categories the of. 18:19.160 --> 18:21.950 The that which is which are of preparation that offense. 18:22.850 --> 18:26.410 She of the things that are non cumulative relevant helpful to 18:26.410 --> 18:26.930 the fans. 18:27.970 --> 18:29.160 Either its goal of tory. 18:30.010 --> 18:32.990 Right well could could provide the basis for mitigation. 18:33.630 --> 18:38.040 Of And then the other the second category is intended for use 18:38.040 --> 18:40.810 by the truck outs from the governments to sochi. 18:42.550 --> 18:46.360 And and and that that materials all gonna be an event material 18:46.390 --> 18:48.640 or our jason chief is gonna be on classified. 18:49.700 --> 18:52.550 And so that's all bets nodded issue in any of this discussion 18:52.550 --> 18:54.050 over what they've got knocked out. 18:56.190 --> 18:57.250 In the past that. 18:57.840 --> 19:04.770 Person. No but uses of the Evades she was going to prep prepare 19:04.770 --> 19:05.540 their defense. 19:06.140 --> 19:08.110 If they if they've got our. Case. 19:10.070 --> 19:14.960 We've got our it's. Right. 19:17.340 --> 19:19.890 Right. The time. Yeah.. Business. 19:22.340 --> 19:27.030 Business. Oh I'd like to awful. 19:28.130 --> 19:32.570 Well difference first have to hit the action and that her working. 19:33.770 --> 19:35.570 Yeah you know it out. 19:36.110 --> 19:37.450 It's too much. 19:38.980 --> 19:40.730 So the Right to it. 19:41.270 --> 19:42.320 And that's it that's. 19:42.830 --> 19:46.060 Right. Yeah that was a really. 19:47.110 --> 19:50.580 Thirteen here but what what I will say is I am not in any way 19:50.580 --> 19:53.510 disparaging their right to challenge these protective orders 19:53.510 --> 19:55.990 and raise it there's been significant litigation over it. 19:56.630 --> 20:02.900 Um all I'm saying is these are standards generally accepted. Here. Faso. 20:03.400 --> 20:08.300 Was. The people's side and other council members of the defense team. 20:08.850 --> 20:10.030 And it's the prime. 20:11.070 --> 20:14.470 The people were side or the council members. That's. 20:17.500 --> 20:21.780 And he And and that's what protect affordable and points. 20:23.150 --> 20:25.120 A Now nobody can. 20:25.860 --> 20:29.200 Participate in something their clients doing that's that maybe 20:29.200 --> 20:32.350 against the Wall that that's not to prepare for a watched the ball. 20:33.320 --> 20:33.850 The young. 20:34.700 --> 20:37.060 And in jet the judge in issuing his. 20:37.880 --> 20:41.010 Memorandum of understanding last december are slated to the go 20:41.010 --> 20:44.700 wine case and I reckon I commend to use the perfect of ordering 20:44.700 --> 20:46.960 people on a case. I think it is in a. 20:48.070 --> 20:51.740 We we have the have that it's it's cited in the record so. 20:52.300 --> 20:53.250 It's a it's will. 20:54.010 --> 20:56.490 Capable of being a found on public. 20:57.110 --> 20:59.240 Uh. Databases says. 20:59.980 --> 21:04.100 The judge in that case required animal you require all the difference 21:04.100 --> 21:04.920 comes with the sun. 21:05.580 --> 21:07.030 It's just part of practice. 21:07.910 --> 21:09.020 Uses virginal. 21:09.700 --> 21:13.730 It's a very good medicine for me to go the No what. 21:14.810 --> 21:18.500 No yens partly and it we have thousands of pages ready to go 21:18.950 --> 21:19.950 and um. 21:21.570 --> 21:23.770 And that you know they're choosing to continue to. 21:24.450 --> 21:27.340 The debate and so forth and that that is the right but. 21:27.920 --> 21:31.350 No that's the They they we believes that. 21:31.890 --> 21:35.370 That's when some of that material good deal of the time we're 21:35.370 --> 21:36.450 on the side of inclusion. 21:37.110 --> 21:40.280 Because we're making some of these in what is relevant requires 21:40.280 --> 21:43.470 and judgment calls it requires anticipating. What how this might 21:43.470 --> 21:44.850 fit into a defense theory. 21:45.500 --> 21:50.230 So. We or I'm ready to turn over thousands. Bridge. 21:52.600 --> 21:54.990 When does he did uh. Uh. 21:57.590 --> 21:58.280 All that. 21:59.120 --> 22:00.940 This case can be important in. 22:01.560 --> 22:05.940 This guessing economy talking that trial in aviation will turn 22:05.940 --> 22:11.160 to wikis sub a witness and testified when when did he. 22:11.700 --> 22:14.460 When he favored room with us we get that. 22:16.280 --> 22:16.970 The matter. 22:17.740 --> 22:21.830 This one uh it the we have requested the trial early next year. 22:22.280 --> 22:25.660 But the this with the delays that of occurred. 22:26.210 --> 22:29.490 We realize the the church using gonna find that to be a nature 22:29.490 --> 22:32.430 suggestions but we don't have a specific try also that. 22:33.120 --> 22:36.480 Um. Just this is not about a time more. 22:38.200 --> 22:38.900 It's about. 22:39.590 --> 22:41.140 Justice under the rule Wall. 22:42.050 --> 22:43.490 And the pork maybe Wall. 22:45.680 --> 22:50.060 And And it will bend toward justice that will be here as long 22:50.060 --> 22:50.810 as it. Takes. 22:54.470 --> 22:55.130 The show. 22:56.990 --> 22:57.960 Yes it. 22:58.940 --> 22:59.540 The thing. 23:01.360 --> 23:02.550 One for me to what. 23:03.280 --> 23:06.520 Insert in the prestige use that time compress that workers. 23:07.250 --> 23:10.400 Uh in the region be enough to what he sees the baby she's to work. 23:12.090 --> 23:14.830 You just into us today on the record and we got thick in their 23:14.830 --> 23:16.480 mean the the a. 23:17.540 --> 23:21.505 Severs order seldom Beyonce. He's gonna take about these two 23:21.505 --> 23:23.540 90 tuesday ninty two series. 23:24.070 --> 23:25.890 And and those things that are connected to it. 23:26.420 --> 23:30.360 So uh to spit that will be the first order business until it 23:30.360 --> 23:30.950 gets to that. 23:32.360 --> 23:33.770 Thank you to think you're good..