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- [Interviewer] Say your name.

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- Allan Donaire.

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- [Interviewer] One more time.- Allan Donaire.

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- [Interviewer] One more time.- Allan Donaire.

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- [Interviewer] All right, just put this on your belt.

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Yeah, just leave it like that.

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Can you hold it, what I want...

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Because you're tapping the table and I don't want

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your tapping the table to disrupt the sound.

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- Do you want me to just keep my hands over there?

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- [Interviewer] No, I don't want to stop you from doing what you're doing.

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A lot more (audio cuts out) like this.

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Okay, so,

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again, it's Monday afternoon.

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Storm's coming in, stuff's flying off the building.

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And what happens from there?

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- Like I said, once we started to

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see the debris flying off the building, we wanted to make sure everyone else

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was aware, so we went inside the building and told everyone

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hey, you know, don't go outside.

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There's metal flying all over the place.

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So if you do go outside, make sure you have flak and Kevlar.

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But we didn't want anyone...I wanted to be in control and make sure everyone was safe.

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and I knew where they were.

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We had everyone get their vehicles from outside

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and put it inside the building because there wasn't that many of us.

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So it was easy to keep the vehicles inside the building.

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At that point, when we went inside the drill deck,

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we started to notice a lot of the drill deck flying off.

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We have some of it on video.

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That's how we knew it was started to get really, really bad.

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And that's when the storm was picking up.

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At that point, shortly after that,

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that's when Detective Frank Pinto showed up.

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And he showed up to the front requesting for assistance.

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He was asking us if we had any vehicles that help him,

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because none of the vehicles they had could make it through the water

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that they had already had over there

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in the Rockaways.

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So at that point, I contacted the people up my chain of command,

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let them know the rescue team was looking for assistance.

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And they were specifically

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requesting 7-ton vehicle support.

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- [Interviewer] Now what did you know about

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what was going on out in the Rockaways?

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- I just knew geographically that it was a really bad place.

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You know, I had looked earlier and saw that

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it was a mandatory evacuation site.

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And if you looked at it, it was just such a skinny piece of land.

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And it went from the ocean to the bay.

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So I knew if there was

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if the conditions were starting to worsen, that that was going to be a really bad place to be at.

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I knew that.

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And then when they came looking for assistance

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and we saw how bad it was getting at the battalion at that point,

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like the waves from the bay,

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were now on the compound.

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So we had water really high, a couple feet of water already

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in the battalion as it was.

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- [Interviewer] Describe where your battalion is,

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on Long Island or at the end of Brooklyn.

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- It's right across the bay, so it's

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the bridge between Queens and Brooklyn.

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And the compound itself is several hundred yards

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between the actual bay and our compound building.

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And it still made it all the way up there,

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all the way to the front

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in a couple feet of water.

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- [Interviewer] And were you expecting it to be bad?

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Or what were you expecting to see at the battalion?

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- To be honest with you, I didn't know what to expect.

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I'd been there all morning and I saw the winds.

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And I never saw any winds that bad.

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You know, it was legitimately throwing us left and right.

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Because I had to keep watch on the compound,

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so I kept walking and touring the area.

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I didn't expect it to be that bad.

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And they kept telling us the storm was coming.

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It wasn't even there yet.

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So I figured, all right, when it gets bad, I expected rain.

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And it wasn't any rain at all.

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So what happened is all the water from the bay and the ocean,

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that's when it started to come over.

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And that's when I got the real picture

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of how much damage this was going to do.

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At that point, it was already too late.

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- [Interviewer] So Detective Frankie, where is he from?

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- Detective Frank Pinto is from the (inaudible) Bayfield area

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from what I understand.

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- [Interviewer] And so he came asking for help, asking for your 7-tons.

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What did he need help with?

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- From what he told us, they had rescued people that were down

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and no one could get to them.

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So I guess, from what I understand, they had people

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that were out there rescuing people that were stranded out there,

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and they ended up getting stranded themselves.

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And their own vehicles couldn't get out there to help them.

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Because the water was already starting to swell up.

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Because this was getting towards the height of the hurricane.

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So he specifically requested if we had vehicles

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that were capable of getting through that.

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And we did.

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He knew it, we knew it.

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- [Interviewer] And so your boss signed off on it and

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so what did you guys end up doing?

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How'd you get up there and what did you guys do out there?

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- Well after I contacted the chain of command and let them know

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this is the situation, there was no hesitation.

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The colonel

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authorized us to go out there.

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Once he gave us the go ahead, we made sure we set up communication,

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in the right way.

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And we started to head out there.

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We had to make a couple stops real quick, you know,

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get in touch with their people.

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And then once we did that we made our way across the bridge.

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As soon as we got over the bridge, that's when

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everything set in.

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As we were leaving the battalion, we were crashing through waves at our battalion.

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But it was nothing compared to what was on the other side.

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Once we actually got to the Rockaways, that's when we started noticing.

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Because we had to go right underneath the bridge.

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As soon as we got underneath that bridge, that's when it got really scary

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because the water was really high.

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I mean, like, dangerous levels in a 7-ton.

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So once we went underneath that bridge and, you know,

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it just got worse and worse.

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It progressively got worse and worse

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to the point where I didn't feel safe in the 7-ton at that point.

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- [Interviewer] And so what does the area look like?

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It's nighttime but anyone else on the road?

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It's two 7-tons going out there

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is the place just abandoned, or what do you see out there?

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- Since I know the area, I used to run out there during the morning,

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you couldn't recognize it really.

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It's complete darkness, there's no streetlights.

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So it's really eerie when you go over there because

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there's nothing out there, all you see is darkness.

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The wind was out of control, so it was hard to hear anything or see anything.

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And then with the waves that were so high up.

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It was kind of covering our lights.

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So even the lights we had on the 7-ton, it was hard to see anything.

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So with no power in the whole city, it was really, really difficult

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to see or get a picture of what it was.

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- [Interviewer] So how long did it take you to get to the Rockaways?

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And how's that compare to normally trying to get out there?

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- We got over there really quick

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just because it's probably a two minute, three minute drive with no problems.

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Obviously there was no one on the road, so we got over there really quick.

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There was no one in our way, so we got over there really quick.

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It was just once we hit the Rockaways,

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that's when a mile probably took an hour.

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- [Interviewer] So you get out there, you get your 7-ton,

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what happens, what do you guys do and

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what do you see out there, the people that need to be rescued?

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- When we first got out there, as I said, we see

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cars just floating in the water.

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And by cars, definitely not regular cars. SUVs.

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We saw the tops of SUVsjust bouncing up and

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down in the water so all youcould see is the top of the roofs, the color.

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And then they would disappear.

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So we saw a lot of that.

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There was nothing else thatwe could see at that point.

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No trees or anything.

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The guides that we hadwere the two lampposts.

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We knew that we were on the highway

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and if we stayed in between thetwo lampposts that we were good.

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So that was our main goal.

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The first 7-ton was way in front of me.

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He ended up getting too far in front of me,

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I would say probably about half a mile in front of me.

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And at that point we werehaving a whole lot of resistance.

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The waves were crashing against the 7-ton.

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The water level at this pointwas on top of the hood.

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Not a whole lot, you know,

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just on the top of the hoodwhich was pretty scary.

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But the water wasn't gettinginside of the cab at this time.

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But then because the beach wasto the right and the bay was on the left,

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the waves were coming from the right.

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So every time a wave would come,

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it would completely cover the windshield,

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you couldn't see anything for three to six seconds.

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So at that time, you know,

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I realized we were in a lot of trouble.

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And the vehicle in front of me is way too far.

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And the police had radios.

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So we were in constant contact with them.

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At one point they called us totell us, hey, you know,

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we're stuck, you've got to come get us.

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But the situation for us was getting the same,

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was getting dangerous, it was getting really scary.

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And I didn't feel comfortable, I didn't feel safe.

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Neither did anyone in the vehicle.

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To include Sergeant Negron and Detective John Kenny.

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So at that time we had to make a decision

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of either going out there and saving them right away,

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or standing by until we knewthat it was okay to get out there.

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So we made the decision tofind a high road, which we did,

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thank goodness it was right there.

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We waited there until probablyabout three hours later, which we

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decided we'd wait here until the water went down and we'll go in and rescue them.

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- [Interviewer] So you guys are juststaying...You guys are off to the side

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three hours, waiting to get into the Rockaways?

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- No, we were already inthe Rockaways at this point.

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- [Interviewer] You were outsideof where the folks needed to get rescued from.

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And you're watching that area for three hours?

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- Right, so we're in the truck three hours,

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the wind is crazy, the water is still pretty bad.

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Can't see anything, the only thing we can see at this point

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are transformers blowing up left and right.

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Lighting up the whole sky.

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We've got a fire to the left,which at that point was Breezy Point.

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And to the right of us was the fire

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that we ended up rescuing the other people at.

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At that point it was just asmall fire, we didn't even really know

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it was a fire, but after three hoursit just kept getting bigger and bigger.

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And we didn't know what it was.

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We heard on the radio that thepower plant, which was on 100th Street,

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that that was on fire.

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We thought it was that, but it was actually another fire

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which was the one at 130th.

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- [Interviewer] So what are youthinking then about the folks?

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Because you went out there to rescue people

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and now you're sitting there waiting.

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An hour goes by, two, three hours go by.

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You're waiting to go get to them.

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What are you guys in the vehicle thinking about?

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- At that point, myself,I'm sure Sergeant Negron

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and obviously John Kenny,

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we were really concerned with the Marines

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and the Sailors and the police that we

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originally had gone out there with.

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That was my main concern

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because at that point we didn'tknow that they were safe.

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And we were on the radio with them,

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so we kept hitting them up on the radio.

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We didn't know how bad their condition was

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so we just wanted updates.

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So there was a time where I was worried that they were gonna get washed away.

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Just because I knew how bad the water was.

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And that's why we didn't go out there.

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If I had felt safer going out there, I would have driven out there and got them.

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But it would have made nosense for us to go out there

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and try to rescue them andget stranded ourselves.

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So I was definitely worried about their well-being.

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And making sure they were all right.

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And at one point they told us that theyhad to get up on top of the 7-ton

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because the water was coming too high.

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So we were really worried at that point.

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- [Interviewer] Hold on one second.

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So three hours go by

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and you guys can get into the Rockaways

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and you can go out and getthe people you went out to go get.

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What was that scene like?

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- That was a little better thanwhen we first got out there.

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Now, we had a...

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Me and Sergeant Negron kept running down the hill

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to see where the water levels were.

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Once the water levels were, we could see that they were going down a little bit,

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that's when we were like, let's go try.

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We were on the radio with those guys and we were like, hey, did the water go down?

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They weren't saying that the waterwas going down drastically but

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they said it had gone down a little bit.

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So we were like, screw it, we've been out here long enough.

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I know those guys are freezing cold right now.

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So we decided to just truck it.

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So we started to get out there and ata certain point, they could see us now.

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They could see our lights.

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They were guiding us as well.

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They were letting us know how far we were

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and they could see our lights.

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Sometimes we would be driving to them

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and our lights would go out, the water would cover our lights and they would tell us to hold on.

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And if we waited, maybe the

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swells from the waves would go down

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and they could see our lights again,so that was their guide for us.

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So when we finally got out there, it took a while.

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They guided us, we ended up seeing signs that they couldn't.

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Particularly that the road split.

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That road sign they didn't see.

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And that caused a problem because that's probably why they got stuck in the first place.

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- [Interviewer] Just a couple more questions and then we'll get out of here.

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- [Donaire] No problem.

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- [Interviewer] What was it like when

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you got to them and you got the first

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person that was stranded out there into the back of your 7-ton?

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What was that like?

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- You're talking about the Marines?

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- [Interviewer] No, when you got out to

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the Rockaways, you're being guided out there

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and after you grabbed (inaudible),

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you're out there in the Rockaways and

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you're finally getting close tothe folks that need help.

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What was it like when you first got thefirst person into your 7-ton?

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When you were finally pulling them up.

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- It was awesome because it feels like

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we didn't waste a trip and that we actually

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could provide something to help.

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You know, we didn't want to feellike we were going out there

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not accomplishing anything.

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We wanted to help the cops out as much as they wanted to help out everyone else.

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So it felt really good.

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And it was good because we didn'tknow who was getting saved.

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So it put a face to the people we were saving.

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So that was pretty cool.

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- [Interviewer] Do you rememberseeing their faces or hearing them

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say anything as you were...

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Were you on the bed of the 7-ton pulling them up?

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- Absolutely, at that point they...

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Everyone was in the shock, you could see it on everyone's face.

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They were a little reluctant toget on the truck because

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they were leaving their home.

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They just watched their house burn down.

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It was covered in water at the same time.

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If you can imagine seeing that.

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They definitely didn't want to leave their home.

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They wanted to see it through.

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And they didn't get that opportunity.

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So they were a little concerned with that.

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Not all of them had warming layers.

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So thank goodness the police had blankets and things like that.

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So there was that too.

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- [Interviewer] You were telling meon the way to the barbershop about

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the dad and the kid.

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Tell me about that.- That was the last group that we saved.

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We saw the flashlights in front of the truck.

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Let the police know there's someone right there.

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And then as they started getting to the headlights of the 7-ton,

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we saw this gentleman who had the flashlight

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had his daughter on his shoulders.

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And then his wife had another daughter on her shoulders

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and another daughter in her hand.

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And you could see in his face, he was just in complete shock.

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And he was just like a walking zombie.

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- [Interviewer] How high is the water?

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- At that point, it's probably waist-high for him.

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Maybe a little bit more.

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So as soon as they see him,they went right away, grabbed him up,

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and brought him in the 7-ton, no questions asked.

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- [Interviewer] What was it like when you got them there, back to safety?

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What was that feeling like?

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- I dunno, I'd say that I have a whole lot of feelings but it felt good if anything.

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Everything felt like

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we were doing something.

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I can't really rememberto be honest with you.

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I just know that it just felt like it was

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part of what we were supposed to do.

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- [Interviewer] Thinking back on it,was there a specific moment

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from that whole experience that really stuck out in your mind as a memory

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from what you guys did and what happened?

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- Just riding around with the police officers.

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They had a really good attitude about them.

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So they kept the mood up,

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because you could tell it was a huge disaster.

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No one was sugarcoating that.

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Everyone knew it was pretty badbut the fact that they had positive

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mental attitude about it and

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they kept reassuring us that hey,

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you guys are really a big help.

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Even though I didn't feel like we were.

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That felt good too.

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If they felt like we were helping them,

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then it felt good for us.

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And that's probably it.

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- [Interviewer] Why didn't you feel likeyou guys were being a big help?

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- I don't know, I think you always do more.

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- [Interviewer] Looking back on it, what surprised you the most about

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everything that happened that night?

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- I guess the way the policemen

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and the firefighters were so relentless.

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No hesitation, no caution

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in regards to themselves.

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Just relentless in wanting to

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keep going on there and helping everyone out.

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- [Interviewer] You were helping some firefighters and some other rescue folks out there.

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What do they look like?

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- In the zone.

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They were in the zone.

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- [Interviewer] Had they been in the water for a while?

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Like were they drenched from being in the water?

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- Yes, they had some good gear with them

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so they were covered head to toe in rubber.

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But I'm sure they were freezing wet, cold.

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But it didn't affect them.

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You couldn't tell that they were affected, if they were.

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I'm sure they were hungry, cold, wet, tired,

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but you could just see it in their eyes,

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they were just relentless and ready to keep going.

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- [Interviewer] Last thing is

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give me your rank, your first and last name.

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- Sergeant Allan David Donaire.

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- [Interviewer] And where are you from?

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- Elizabeth, New Jersey.

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- [Interviewer] And your unit.- 6th Communication Battalion, Brooklyn, New York.

