WEBVTT 00:13.000 --> 00:16.920 Than a good morning here washington them good enough is enough 00:16.920 --> 00:19.750 against them I would like to welcome to the Pentagon briefing room. 00:19.750 --> 00:23.940 Brigadier general roger mobile austrian army. He is the deputy 00:23.940 --> 00:28.640 deputy chief of staff for operations for rice south this is general 00:28.980 --> 00:32.620 laws second tour in Afghanistan. He previously served as the 00:32.620 --> 00:36.350 first joint operations officer in the austrian national headquarters 00:36.350 --> 00:40.110 supporting the anti shock australian operations in Afghanistan 00:40.110 --> 00:41.160 in two thousand two. 00:42.000 --> 00:44.820 Is other operational deployments include serving as the team 00:44.820 --> 00:47.990 leader in the chemical buskirk destruction group supporting the 00:47.990 --> 00:50.880 un special commission in iraq in nineteen ninety two. 00:51.500 --> 00:55.130 Commanding the first almost on a task group in southern iraq 00:55.160 --> 00:58.570 in two thousand five and and he's team or in two thousand one 00:58.570 --> 01:02.600 and two thousand two as the operations officer sector west operating 01:02.600 --> 01:05.270 on the border between east and west team or. 01:06.110 --> 01:08.900 Genner normal joins us today for my serve headquarters in kabul 01:08.900 --> 01:10.800 to provide an Apple operational update. 01:11.540 --> 01:14.860 You make some opening comments and then take your questions but 01:14.860 --> 01:16.340 that just roll. 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Two. 01:19.500 --> 01:20.100 Anc's back. 01:20.820 --> 01:24.500 Today I'm brigadier roger novel on the deputy operations officer 01:24.710 --> 01:27.750 here in kabul at the headquarters of the international security 01:27.750 --> 01:29.360 assistance force in Afghanistan. 01:30.150 --> 01:33.930 I have twenty nine you say this in as an officer news tram an army. 01:35.060 --> 01:38.710 I with the impending recovery liu research forces on ready to 01:38.710 --> 01:42.640 rates your questions on the impact of the surge the overall progress 01:42.640 --> 01:43.850 of the arts have can panic. 01:44.700 --> 01:48.400 The bottom line is that beneath the noise in turbulent says day-to-day 01:48.400 --> 01:52.430 operations and events the cabana campaign reminds on track to 01:52.430 --> 01:53.730 achieve its objectives. 01:54.280 --> 01:57.100 In accordance with the lie down lisbon time-line. 01:58.170 --> 02:00.930 The search has effectively calving and an eyeball the training 02:00.930 --> 02:03.450 and fielding or the Afghan national sturdy force. 02:04.040 --> 02:06.530 And is an amazing outcome in iraq that self. 02:07.590 --> 02:10.530 And the blood sweat and tears in many coalition soldiers. 02:11.110 --> 02:14.490 Especially many brave americans historically delivered the time 02:14.490 --> 02:18.740 and space the ins if to stand up and a sheena laid for the security 02:18.740 --> 02:19.610 of Afghanistan. 02:20.550 --> 02:23.640 Relentless pressure on the enemy has increasingly puts the fighting 02:23.640 --> 02:27.920 an insurgency away from the marriage of population sentiment centers. 02:28.570 --> 02:32.090 A particularly heavy toll as been levied on the insurgent ladyship. 02:32.730 --> 02:36.010 Entrance national terrace organizations such as o'connor. 02:37.000 --> 02:41.550 Seventy six% of the Afghan population. Now lives in areas in 02:41.550 --> 02:43.380 transition or entering transition. 02:44.200 --> 02:47.750 In these areas Afghans have delayed for their own security and 02:47.750 --> 02:48.780 their own lives. 02:49.760 --> 02:53.500 And the future of Afghanistan eased day by day increasingly in 02:53.500 --> 02:56.560 Afghan hints as it must be ensured that. 02:57.380 --> 02:59.540 This is the plan and it's on track. 03:00.670 --> 03:03.660 Ryan make IDC talking. I think it would be more productive to 03:03.660 --> 03:07.550 get a questions. I had dating there the state of the ten months 03:08.030 --> 03:11.470 and as a debt the operations over so I'll try arranger any operational 03:11.470 --> 03:13.120 questions that you might have. 03:14.000 --> 03:17.110 You now more than welcome to ask about the inside a trick challenge 03:17.110 --> 03:21.260 in our response. The matron impact of civilian casualties in cuba. 03:22.000 --> 03:25.840 There is an attack on bastion or recent collective responses 03:25.840 --> 03:29.640 to the heightened tensions generated by the innocence of wasn't stadia. 03:30.620 --> 03:34.270 The very man violate see your questions is about ice F coalition 03:34.270 --> 03:37.510 officer who clearly is an American Pawn merit to one. 03:38.150 --> 03:41.010 So I'm ready fee questions of and fire. Why. 03:46.000 --> 03:49.010 I Don't know all of of over-exaggerate eight. 03:50.000 --> 03:53.200 Was very very good all they are profile of the individuals were 03:53.200 --> 03:58.120 carrying us is innovate these insider fats in it for the event. 03:58.720 --> 04:01.390 That you've been developing a profile of individuals or going 04:01.390 --> 04:02.800 out these insider attacks. 04:03.500 --> 04:07.610 On and so on radio the joao distinction of the use of being tell 04:07.610 --> 04:11.500 the other being legitimate that get security force members. 04:12.170 --> 04:15.670 If you give us a more new laws to the description or view of 04:15.670 --> 04:16.510 the whole file. 04:17.110 --> 04:18.620 And related issue for. 04:19.170 --> 04:22.130 Us to look into the camp bastion attack. If you've got any indication 04:22.130 --> 04:22.730 at this point. 04:23.540 --> 04:27.180 That anybody inside the cavity Afghans play the role and you 04:27.180 --> 04:29.130 are helping plan or execute it. That. 04:33.310 --> 04:36.050 Okay the first question Anna prior far. 04:36.660 --> 04:40.560 Powwow they are mm asia's or and they put a high priority is 04:40.590 --> 04:41.260 used to. 04:42.170 --> 04:46.980 Conducted did tell the massless this of every tack and the background 04:47.040 --> 04:47.910 of the shooter. 04:48.630 --> 04:51.490 How one of the problems. So we had these aren't mies to this 04:51.490 --> 04:55.860 should is back killed in the attacks or or scarecrow the heart. 04:56.720 --> 04:59.330 But that doesn't stop you still digging into the background using 04:59.330 --> 05:02.560 a multiple mains and actually did during the ones that we did tack. 05:03.500 --> 05:05.980 I the why are described it is a bit like. 05:06.620 --> 05:08.010 Watching for suicide. 05:08.650 --> 05:12.650 Tea can watch and is a sit profile for certain characteristics 05:12.650 --> 05:16.340 of the person whom. I E be in danger of causing self-harm. 05:17.030 --> 05:19.980 We so they're looking hard at all issued a profiles and simply 05:19.980 --> 05:23.840 can identify certain traits or characteristics the conservative 05:23.840 --> 05:27.570 servers warnings to the troops or they can now be clued aren't 05:27.570 --> 05:31.520 for potential risk said it with that guy in all aspects of the 05:31.520 --> 05:33.410 PRI far because I don't reveal. 05:34.310 --> 05:37.390 All that and it's a work in progress. It's not canary. 05:38.240 --> 05:42.240 Tin on a television show or or be amply standard profile yet 05:42.620 --> 05:46.560 the types of things that how long the person has been in the 05:46.560 --> 05:51.370 Afghan national security forces what they've been doing immediately prior. 05:51.960 --> 05:55.280 To the attack had they been in the unit or they've been a why. 05:55.950 --> 05:57.530 On where they from. 05:58.190 --> 06:02.460 Out what they're they're having any personal or ministry of problems wanted. 06:02.490 --> 06:06.150 What's the personal domain earn conduct clark. So we're working 06:06.150 --> 06:09.190 on that so that's our first the ins if. 06:09.710 --> 06:12.340 And a coalition forces can have their. 06:13.120 --> 06:16.500 It the system when they're looking it up and die today and in 06:16.500 --> 06:19.810 the field as to where a threat might be counting from so we're 06:19.810 --> 06:20.960 gonna keep doing that. 06:21.500 --> 06:25.170 And we're doing it handing hammond Afghans. I mean they didn't 06:25.170 --> 06:27.240 because they have the cultural. 06:28.170 --> 06:31.430 Understanding and that the tell understanding of their own society 06:31.570 --> 06:35.130 which helps us get an insight into that top of the Second thing 06:35.130 --> 06:38.450 is on bastion the attack a bastion is still under investigation. 06:39.100 --> 06:43.250 Anna they is the one of the questions the investigations cannot 06:43.300 --> 06:47.340 answer is whether there was any insight assistance in allowing 06:47.340 --> 06:50.340 you sock forced a bridge to promote out and conduct keep track. 06:50.830 --> 06:54.830 How prison it's still going and that have no indication either 06:54.830 --> 06:57.680 way whether there was insider support or. Not. 07:04.000 --> 07:07.410 The Other day martin with she beers newt. 07:08.500 --> 07:13.940 I'm sure the is a couple weeks ago go allen says that ten% of 07:13.940 --> 07:18.480 the insider attacks were the work of job in infiltrators. 07:19.000 --> 07:24.210 And that if you included the tax on which of the Taliban insisted 07:24.210 --> 07:25.940 the Persian after the attack. 07:26.500 --> 07:28.250 In one up to twenty five percent. 07:29.500 --> 07:34.560 Um a lot of people are skeptical of that number including former 07:34.560 --> 07:35.960 investor ryan crop. 07:36.780 --> 07:38.800 Am because it seems like. 07:39.690 --> 07:41.470 It has become a deliver. 07:42.380 --> 07:43.820 Tactic of the town of. 07:44.540 --> 07:48.040 So why are there was still the numbers ten percent. Tell man 07:48.040 --> 07:50.220 infiltrators twenty five percent. If you. 07:50.760 --> 07:53.360 Count fell away. And assistance after the. Fact. 07:57.070 --> 07:58.010 I guess that it. 07:58.650 --> 08:01.450 General alan stig is come from looking at all the attacks from 08:01.450 --> 08:04.450 two thousand and seven through two until today. 08:05.300 --> 08:08.620 An actor off our percentage of twenty five percent. 08:09.170 --> 08:10.530 Insurgent went. 08:11.050 --> 08:13.250 Will or is any insurgent action. 08:13.770 --> 08:17.920 One of the principal problems with numbers and an assessment 08:18.200 --> 08:19.230 of motivation. 08:19.790 --> 08:23.830 Easy that fifty three% in attack as a with cac. We don't know. 08:24.530 --> 08:27.210 Are what cause him animation because we have no access to them 08:27.210 --> 08:28.070 because they did. 08:28.670 --> 08:31.260 Or did not again custody sarah. 08:31.870 --> 08:35.670 To us any stain or numbers will be subject to that question Mac. 08:36.330 --> 08:40.150 And what we say nice inside their twenty five percent. 08:40.790 --> 08:44.110 There or at different levels of conference inexact corey. 08:44.630 --> 08:46.950 Out what the motivation was for the individual. 08:47.570 --> 08:50.800 And and in some cases age us links to the insurgency got now 08:50.800 --> 08:51.920 actual proof. 08:52.530 --> 08:55.800 That link to the insurgency was the man of action for the attack. 08:56.620 --> 09:00.810 Always down a set down with the Afghan and ask them and i've 09:00.810 --> 09:01.540 gone through. 09:02.150 --> 09:06.710 The a records of each attack in their understanding of the perpetrators. 09:07.230 --> 09:10.380 And I russell you have the same figure. 09:11.260 --> 09:14.480 You know I remember the beginning. I said that was a bat two 09:14.480 --> 09:16.040 thousand and seven until non. 09:16.840 --> 09:19.990 I over that that until today. So either that period. 09:20.620 --> 09:24.110 I did number the taxes by sickly kit pace. 09:24.820 --> 09:28.150 Have proportion in with the growth of the ins here. 09:29.180 --> 09:32.300 The question map for asset prison use. What's happening now. 09:32.910 --> 09:35.430 What's happened in the last couple of months because we had had 09:35.430 --> 09:36.740 a spike in attacks. 09:37.280 --> 09:41.220 And we also have the in any signed it began or export this tactic. 09:42.000 --> 09:45.720 About my Judy in any came responsibility for many things that 09:46.000 --> 09:47.300 and I actually do it. 09:48.050 --> 09:52.430 So we're looking really had a Eck Co option. And youthful try ocean. 09:52.960 --> 09:55.240 In twenty twelve we only have one. 09:56.050 --> 10:00.080 Definitely example of in filtration which we go out in one of 10:00.080 --> 10:03.500 the thirty seven attacks was a deliberate plan to it'll tried 10:03.500 --> 10:04.140 an attack. 10:04.890 --> 10:05.790 On out so. 10:06.500 --> 10:12.270 By march twenty five% rough guide twenty three% personal motivations 10:12.270 --> 10:15.010 and reasons and the best looking backward. 10:15.530 --> 10:18.810 For we need to look for to mature and then had now at the recent 10:18.810 --> 10:22.350 ones is to say whether there's a growth in youthful traction 10:22.670 --> 10:24.080 or or call option. 10:24.860 --> 10:25.590 Anorak back. 10:26.500 --> 10:28.930 And I guess that's probably the summary of where I. Can. 10:36.320 --> 10:40.520 Referee requiring I guess the question is a doubt the implementation 10:40.550 --> 10:42.530 of these trading change on. 10:43.420 --> 10:47.300 Various descriptions of it had a year in response to the innocence 10:47.300 --> 10:52.060 of Muslim of Muslims video said others harris talking more generally 10:52.060 --> 10:55.860 that redouble expats. He would seem like the innocence of Muslims 10:55.860 --> 10:59.740 video protest would subsided white quicker than agree on from 10:59.740 --> 11:04.170 provinces the shed any light on to how long you anticipate having 11:04.170 --> 11:08.400 a uniform at this stage gun related we for the troops who have 11:08.400 --> 11:13.040 to that you know company put to level out of fossil weeds Co 11:13.040 --> 11:16.730 located with the a and S S what's going to be the impact of this 11:16.730 --> 11:21.330 change on how they operate the the day had the isn't there the 11:21.330 --> 11:25.620 danger of having trustee wrote it. It's all this on the trolls 11:25.620 --> 11:29.690 and that sort of operations have to be approved by higher. Courts. 11:33.130 --> 11:34.370 Okay I think kat. 11:35.140 --> 11:38.980 When china cup always the first thing is that changing the way 11:38.980 --> 11:39.720 the business. 11:40.500 --> 11:44.950 Now when and what you do on a Delhi prices is jest normal military 11:44.950 --> 11:46.790 business and common sense. 11:47.550 --> 11:51.560 I waited at all the time. It's just not necessarily you don't notice. 11:52.140 --> 11:55.730 I what we've got is two separate issues. One is in a sense of Muslims. 11:55.730 --> 11:57.700 So are short term. 11:58.420 --> 12:01.410 I incident that is creating heightened tensions. 12:02.060 --> 12:05.850 Next to that you've got what is it actually a long term in any 12:05.850 --> 12:08.810 tactic which easy inside and that threat. 12:09.580 --> 12:14.060 I'm if it so it's in any tactic but it's also a injuring trip 12:14.060 --> 12:16.190 to wrestle there's whether from oddity union are. 12:17.030 --> 12:18.430 So what's happened is. 12:19.160 --> 12:23.100 When ops stupid we can learn from previous experience and we 12:23.100 --> 12:27.780 remember well back what happening fair very with the are piece 12:27.780 --> 12:31.340 handling of that crimen at the colour denis of Koran. 12:32.000 --> 12:34.640 It sector and the response from the local population. 12:35.230 --> 12:38.450 And potter that was in increasing tide of threats or the two 12:38.450 --> 12:39.140 are linked. 12:39.880 --> 12:44.200 In that manner. So what general islands down is I think pretty sensible. 12:44.920 --> 12:45.740 He saved. 12:46.330 --> 12:50.940 Our committee's job is razor force protection level. Prior reduce 12:50.940 --> 12:55.040 your profile be sensible live in this period of heightened tension 12:55.430 --> 12:59.620 in in ongoing review that day boy dead or die so. 13:00.220 --> 13:03.520 Just because we tyne show of force protection limits are doesn't 13:03.520 --> 13:06.650 mean we can't change Indiana went down that many times there 13:06.650 --> 13:09.180 could done is quite a few times previously. 13:10.000 --> 13:11.390 I E question and that. 13:12.310 --> 13:15.980 And we take eerie on after the cops and why from platoons in 13:15.980 --> 13:17.020 companies etcetera. 13:17.670 --> 13:21.570 By can still do that it's just the authority to make that decision 13:21.840 --> 13:23.050 re set a high level. 13:23.750 --> 13:27.160 So their original c'mon c'mon as can direct that to happen. 13:28.000 --> 13:31.890 And and then they will and do so when they think it's safe and appropriate. 13:32.580 --> 13:35.830 At one of the case to the insider threat and why meaning the 13:35.830 --> 13:36.320 likes of. 13:36.850 --> 13:39.640 You because the whole purpose is to a road trust. 13:40.420 --> 13:42.060 And our we. 13:42.720 --> 13:46.010 Are can tear right now that we understand that has side of the 13:46.010 --> 13:48.860 soldiers are always our interest for now the day. 13:49.600 --> 13:53.780 I spoke to the blokes who detect these trial into a killed up 13:53.870 --> 13:58.310 in late august the die after they were killed on their car whether 13:58.310 --> 13:58.760 were killed. 13:59.500 --> 14:01.260 And I E were pretty unhappy. 14:02.030 --> 14:06.240 Our and but the one thing they clearly understood because a professional 14:06.240 --> 14:10.580 soldiers and that's the great benefit of a out western professional armies. 14:10.920 --> 14:11.760 I get to. 14:12.500 --> 14:16.150 Tell a now what the enemies tried to paint they live in parades 14:16.180 --> 14:19.980 with Afghans and then animosity Afghans it with I think that 14:19.980 --> 14:21.720 sort of conducts a poor as well. 14:22.240 --> 14:26.080 So. Yeah and he's got a tough task in actually driving. 14:26.620 --> 14:28.610 A wedge between us because we know. 14:29.430 --> 14:32.340 What what the people who do this are trying to do and will will 14:32.340 --> 14:33.550 stand firmly against. 14:34.260 --> 14:39.170 So. Are I think in on turn you guess each and erosion what you 14:39.170 --> 14:43.800 say though is increase will wear a nest or our soldiers are really 14:43.800 --> 14:44.730 really careful now. 14:45.290 --> 14:47.090 And we have a range of our. 14:47.720 --> 14:51.030 Mm asia's richard probably now that what the guardian angel just 14:51.030 --> 14:55.130 to watch and be careful. I don't myself I spend most days talk 14:55.130 --> 14:55.910 and Afghans. 14:56.630 --> 15:01.000 And now I pressed the ones. I speak to but I always take a weapon 15:01.000 --> 15:04.550 and we make sure we have somebody watching what's happened so. 15:05.130 --> 15:08.820 I I think it's gonna smash it their trust bond interfere. 15:09.530 --> 15:10.930 How between aston name. 15:11.500 --> 15:15.650 And and I think it sued the active cream asia's in the buttocks 15:15.650 --> 15:19.460 are pretty prudent response to a heightened period threat is financed. 15:19.960 --> 15:24.210 Change or damage. The out model that was adopted for the can 15:24.210 --> 15:28.110 pack in fact sisk lying common dog where it sank.. Have. 15:28.870 --> 15:39.000 Have. Of art restorer from sea and then understanding everything 15:39.000 --> 15:43.850 you just said defense secretary leon panetta says that the insider 15:43.850 --> 15:48.010 attacks in his words are the last gasp. 15:48.670 --> 15:52.320 Of the toll of on all at the same time general terms he says 15:52.630 --> 15:56.730 in his words you can't white wash it something has to change. 15:57.530 --> 16:01.050 Seems like we're getting conflicting signals about all of this 16:01.050 --> 16:05.310 what what really is the bottom line that I sat is this the last 16:05.310 --> 16:07.810 gasp of the total bond to do agree with that. 16:08.370 --> 16:10.300 And everything you've described. 16:11.090 --> 16:15.440 Is it possible. It's a symptom of a deeper issue within the Afghan 16:15.440 --> 16:18.660 military structure that needs to be resolved. 16:19.830 --> 16:24.420 For the air force is to trust their own commanders to look after. Our. 16:29.130 --> 16:33.160 Fair saying is are the U.S. agree a defense and chairman out ragni. 16:34.040 --> 16:38.040 Hansel gonna be very careful about saying that if you wanna nowadays ticketed. 16:38.040 --> 16:41.120 You should ask him but I'll give you what what what were you 16:41.120 --> 16:42.510 thinking that this trading he. 16:43.240 --> 16:45.070 And ninety via. Birthright. 16:47.640 --> 16:52.170 EDS say yeah last gas it was an article the washington post today. 16:52.770 --> 16:55.480 And it took to bat the insurgents in their. 16:56.380 --> 16:59.890 Capacity understand out worse political and have a using the 17:00.050 --> 17:02.220 mere information it and attacks. 17:02.820 --> 17:05.110 To sell limited and undermine. 17:05.650 --> 17:09.960 El resolve that both in the coalition and and in Afghanistan. 17:10.820 --> 17:15.650 App I'd expect italy profound deaths Karen stages. She one-on-one. 17:16.400 --> 17:20.170 And so the problem with the insider taxis. It strikes right at 17:20.170 --> 17:21.730 the heart of our resolve. 17:22.310 --> 17:25.840 And is one thing to be killed in action fighting insurgents quite 17:25.840 --> 17:26.730 another to be shot. 17:27.280 --> 17:31.750 In the back of a hated had not by your friends and are saying 17:31.750 --> 17:33.730 that myself and this trial of the most. 17:34.410 --> 17:36.680 Part the most sort of. 17:37.920 --> 17:41.700 Emotional response to death in Afghanistan has been around inside 17:41.700 --> 17:42.090 a threat. 17:42.690 --> 17:46.790 Sorry eight might saints from the insurgent perspective to try 17:46.790 --> 17:50.620 and Do that drive a wedge between us and the Afghans. 17:51.170 --> 17:54.050 Out by fiat. So the theater and inside athena. 17:54.610 --> 17:58.080 Is it a las gas and is our come back to that washington post article. 17:58.760 --> 18:01.560 Are at a funny feeling out of a could get into pickup trucks 18:01.560 --> 18:03.430 and driving the tender how they would. 18:04.060 --> 18:05.330 But they can't do that. 18:05.890 --> 18:10.050 And the search help do that is now not just a coalition's denis 18:10.050 --> 18:13.820 in the wire them but our and UNICEF of about three or a fifty 18:13.820 --> 18:18.550 thousand who say you can't do that you cannot come back. 18:19.070 --> 18:22.710 And most of the people of Afghanistan don't want to back eva. 18:23.290 --> 18:26.130 So what are you doing your insurgent in another country and you 18:26.130 --> 18:29.930 too fearful to come back and you can come back you resort to 18:29.930 --> 18:31.190 extreme tactics. 18:31.710 --> 18:36.110 So now eighty one% of civilian casualties in this country are 18:36.110 --> 18:40.820 because by the insurgents using wide east and Sasha mentioned 18:41.210 --> 18:45.390 and and in less strain of mass casualty attacks against civilians 18:45.560 --> 18:47.990 whether they they're written waiting bombing. 18:48.530 --> 18:53.460 On salmon den them of the tune bombing in coast when I first 18:53.460 --> 18:57.020 got here last year. Sure a bombing in kabul which I think to 18:57.020 --> 18:58.010 up to eighty people. 18:58.610 --> 19:00.980 So yeah if he is if your only option. 19:01.540 --> 19:06.320 Used to ride conference and will through extremism and violence. 19:06.910 --> 19:10.790 Packing the insider threat methodology fits right into that box 19:10.790 --> 19:11.680 of things to do. 19:12.430 --> 19:13.640 And so that's where I think. 19:14.380 --> 19:18.920 Their act than I have a lot of options other than to do that. 19:19.450 --> 19:23.760 And and you probably the bad news is old probably expect they'll 19:23.800 --> 19:25.220 probably try to do that. 19:25.740 --> 19:29.820 The good news. He said every day that goes by the Afghans a better 19:29.820 --> 19:34.150 position to actually be I would are halted and manage it themselves. 19:34.850 --> 19:38.900 It's a pretty tough thing to stop amp it. Someone is willing to. 19:39.500 --> 19:41.940 Driver suicide carrying to you. 19:42.500 --> 19:47.050 About or attack a by saying has no interest in surviving the attack. 19:47.630 --> 19:48.910 The second point was a bat. 19:49.530 --> 19:52.040 I think about the Afghan nationals truly forces and what they 19:52.040 --> 19:52.550 need to do. 19:54.500 --> 19:58.890 Yet we were you think one of the fundamental reasons and one 19:58.890 --> 20:03.950 a stark focus is between me and for any use the road blast functioning 20:03.950 --> 20:06.200 of the institutions of the security force. 20:06.760 --> 20:13.430 So things like pie personnel promotion will leave rest training 20:13.480 --> 20:17.770 or vice things need to be in place to support a professional army. 20:18.280 --> 20:20.120 Now by grown. 20:20.660 --> 20:24.750 And on in a police force really rapidly and part of the cost 20:24.750 --> 20:25.150 of that. 20:25.660 --> 20:29.200 He's our perhaps they haven't done the vetting of individuals. 20:29.840 --> 20:34.360 As well as anybody would of liked and it's Afghanistan bonnet 20:34.390 --> 20:36.500 nobody's gonna social security number he. 20:37.040 --> 20:40.960 Private alignment nouns go. Driver's license. Knowing who people 20:40.960 --> 20:44.990 are is a difficult issues. So there's a lot of work to be done. 20:45.590 --> 20:49.350 The Afghans understanding and actually my my jobs is sitting 20:49.380 --> 20:53.620 with them work. Yeah never gonna go back tight. Not fitting tighten 20:53.620 --> 20:54.330 up taking. 20:54.850 --> 20:58.610 And in what we do here are cefas try and help them with cdos 20:58.610 --> 21:02.080 institutional long term fixes that mike. 21:02.600 --> 21:06.130 These institutions like the army robust and resilient. 21:06.690 --> 21:10.700 Because after twenty four a Nene stacey Delo Corbett's gonna galway. 21:11.210 --> 21:14.340 They'll probably still pushy this sign tactic said it's doing 21:14.340 --> 21:18.090 now and the Afghans need to be on a handle that can weather the storm. 21:18.620 --> 21:21.960 So we've got the pace is they've got the equipment they got the 21:21.960 --> 21:26.670 people and I just in a really robust system and on a working 21:26.670 --> 21:30.030 every die with us to try and develop that to try and strengthen 21:30.030 --> 21:32.470 that any food we think if you do that. 21:33.150 --> 21:35.570 He also cut back on the insider threat. 21:36.170 --> 21:40.090 Heart attacks both against game and mass because it's a problem. 21:40.640 --> 21:41.870 That plagues him. 21:42.500 --> 21:43.740 Are up until. 21:44.750 --> 21:48.060 Most managed user there from our text and wanted it and they 21:48.060 --> 21:51.540 just the ones that we number so they need to grip the problem 21:51.540 --> 21:54.470 as well than this dinner and if we do it together will do a quick 21:54.470 --> 21:55.660 and there are. About. 22:00.760 --> 22:04.590 Of the general tone of all avoid tempe are I wanted to ask you 22:04.590 --> 22:09.180 again about these profiling. Well profiles of the Shooters the 22:09.180 --> 22:12.670 green and blue a tax. Is or anything you can share with those 22:12.670 --> 22:16.260 anything you've learned any common themes to jump out at you 22:16.710 --> 22:18.560 it when I was over there in day. 22:19.190 --> 22:22.690 And there was a particular concern about Afghan soldiers and 22:22.690 --> 22:26.280 please going on leave. That when they go on leave. They cannot 22:26.280 --> 22:31.490 be radicalize by the Taliban or force by the Taliban to kill 22:31.520 --> 22:34.710 allied soldiers. If you could address that in. Particular. 22:37.560 --> 22:40.940 Yeah I I down one anecdotes Raleigh elements. The profile for 22:40.940 --> 22:42.500 the obvious reason. That. 22:44.890 --> 22:48.210 Elected we're now what the profile is when all the elements us. 22:48.210 --> 22:49.900 We don't do that ladies in a shift. 22:50.870 --> 22:55.920 And it's our has eased a will to absence without leave to timespan 22:55.920 --> 22:58.370 away from a unit and then returning. 22:59.000 --> 23:01.640 What the Afghans would tell you is that. 23:02.370 --> 23:05.270 The on like gas always families live in Afghanistan. 23:06.000 --> 23:06.960 About so. 23:07.870 --> 23:10.840 They are concerned about the safety of their families and pressured 23:10.840 --> 23:15.160 it to be put on families etcetera that my ain't huge individuals 23:15.160 --> 23:19.480 to conduct an insider attacks who that's part of the things that 23:19.480 --> 23:20.260 we're looking at. 23:20.780 --> 23:23.350 Trying to track and understand pressure. 23:23.870 --> 23:27.060 And probably that fundamental fix for that. 23:27.610 --> 23:33.280 He's our Simple to say harder to do which is good ladyship and 23:33.280 --> 23:36.770 understanding the soldiers sour practically right down at the 23:36.770 --> 23:41.650 small unit level. So who ally where they're from what are they 23:41.650 --> 23:43.410 problems getting paid. 23:44.040 --> 23:45.540 Where families leaves everything. 23:45.540 --> 23:50.890 Okay. I we do that for us all this Blizzard on art and our pain 23:50.890 --> 23:54.610 a to do it today soldiers said they they focused on. 23:55.340 --> 23:58.620 That issue in in holding people to account. 23:59.130 --> 24:02.630 To dry and I understand and the take guys problems though it. 24:03.040 --> 24:06.550 Well would rather to ease that make sure they're all. Well looked 24:06.550 --> 24:09.820 after and then those problems are detected and stopped tenor 24:09.820 --> 24:10.740 and and fixed. 24:11.340 --> 24:17.010 On the other side of the korean ease Henninger constant vigilance 24:17.040 --> 24:21.240 to watch for those sort of indicators to to take that problem 24:21.270 --> 24:25.210 and only. And is another sada Kong which is actually counter intelligence. 24:25.710 --> 24:27.290 And iraq carefully. 24:28.040 --> 24:31.130 About monetary who's moving where and when etcetera so it is 24:31.130 --> 24:31.970 a whole suite. 24:32.640 --> 24:38.440 Of things that come together to try and I detect a problem only 24:38.930 --> 24:42.010 and as even if you believe is it issued in. 24:42.590 --> 24:46.050 Rid people returning from boys is an issue and there are a number 24:46.050 --> 24:49.940 of reprisals were talking to the Afghans adapt then anime might 24:49.940 --> 24:51.260 be able to our. 24:52.360 --> 24:54.950 I deal soldiers coming back and make sure the when they get back 24:54.950 --> 24:56.710 to the unit the higgs aren't straight. 24:57.260 --> 24:58.990 Relating for them and now they're. Doing. 25:04.500 --> 25:08.620 Of course where you so revisit issue how many years there are 25:08.620 --> 25:10.390 many of these attacks occurring. 25:10.940 --> 25:14.470 Was soldiers employees either in a Walt we're coming back from 25:14.470 --> 25:15.940 leave your these address. That. 25:19.190 --> 25:23.500 Yeah I had the thing is aren't exactly what percentage is flavor ladder. 25:24.000 --> 25:33.420 We're dismantle a there's been issuing a number of attacks and By. 25:34.380 --> 25:38.770 The general might from the times london times and Rightly or 25:38.770 --> 25:42.660 wrongly fairly or unfairly the impression about that they're 25:42.660 --> 25:47.120 all outside Afghanistan is a decision by Journal alum to change 25:47.120 --> 25:52.000 the joint patrols of these strikes out the at the very heart 25:52.040 --> 25:55.970 of what's ice out is doing and trying to do over the next two 25:55.970 --> 26:00.060 years to hand over to the facts of that it's you've already talked 26:00.060 --> 26:02.860 about trust but that it really does strike at that we. 26:04.620 --> 26:07.370 I we ventured too much of this or is this too said that this 26:07.370 --> 26:11.310 was a sort of a sensible thing to do but the impression is that 26:11.430 --> 26:13.610 it's fundamental to this whole. 26:14.450 --> 26:19.240 Campaign that if you contrast the guys and and parts of the You 26:19.240 --> 26:23.440 are the other sixty seventy% of these insider attacks that cubicle 26:23.440 --> 26:26.720 for differences personal problems whatever and and not that not 26:26.720 --> 26:31.200 that said that so that also is an element of perhaps. What seems 26:31.200 --> 26:35.230 to be missing trust between the iPad's an adviser about cut off 26:35.230 --> 26:38.890 just one question about camp. Bastion is it any indication yet 26:39.090 --> 26:42.920 how it was possible for fifteen talent that you all the first 26:42.920 --> 26:45.900 an American uniforms could've approached. 26:46.530 --> 26:50.030 A camp bastion which as we all know he's in the middle of nowhere. 26:50.610 --> 26:53.740 In the does that's how it's possible they could impressive without 26:53.770 --> 26:54.180 use. Of. 26:58.050 --> 26:59.700 Okay so our. 27:01.200 --> 27:03.800 Rightly or wrongly that the tonight he too much of it. 27:04.720 --> 27:05.590 The app. 27:06.800 --> 27:08.170 Tehran has not said. 27:08.870 --> 27:12.810 That when never going to speak to an Afghan the load kandak level again. 27:13.430 --> 27:17.580 And is not what's happening what he's done a smack as the commander 27:17.920 --> 27:18.910 today the heightened. 27:19.450 --> 27:22.260 Threat and ran the innocence of Muslims video. 27:22.900 --> 27:27.460 Which are You would have to admit has had any impact caller Billy 27:27.780 --> 27:32.420 and the track record in Afghanistan of response to things that 27:32.420 --> 27:36.360 are perceived is entities lamb make in and adding from the west 27:36.360 --> 27:37.400 or from the feeder. 27:38.040 --> 27:43.420 I E be crazy not to heightened force protection. So I think. 27:44.000 --> 27:46.770 Bet's logical he's also not preventing. 27:47.410 --> 27:52.310 Partnership patrols Paula kandak level. He's just reinforcing 27:52.310 --> 27:56.110 a requirement dramatic conceded decision have doubt when we're 27:56.110 --> 28:00.500 and how that happens any reserves the right. Of course to change 28:00.500 --> 28:02.720 of policy in response to what's happening. 28:03.310 --> 28:04.960 So as I said there. 28:05.500 --> 28:09.900 I'm issue business happens from the very last of all to the top level. 28:10.500 --> 28:14.850 At hetero the minute that jury nick at incidents in february. 28:15.400 --> 28:18.340 Where she pulled out all the advisers from the ministries he. 28:19.000 --> 28:21.200 For a ivor mark and our. 28:21.880 --> 28:24.820 Happy because of the threat of inside a straight to available 28:24.820 --> 28:28.070 likes was shot actually americans was shot in the yeah. 28:28.670 --> 28:29.880 Ministry the interior. 28:30.500 --> 28:33.350 So we're act for months and I went back and now are. 28:33.910 --> 28:37.240 Actually what the families that distance makes the heart grow 28:37.240 --> 28:41.580 fond of because some of those relationships we realise we need 28:41.580 --> 28:44.690 to talk to each other it's absolutely fundamental. So I think 28:45.040 --> 28:47.450 from my lie early positions. The ops officer. 28:48.120 --> 28:51.810 It's prudent and sensible to make the decisions that ten allowance my. 28:52.690 --> 28:56.360 And fact we did it automatically was started to write the tourists 28:56.360 --> 28:57.080 try to work. 28:57.670 --> 29:00.860 And the ford told us too many had a discussion with all his commanders 29:00.860 --> 29:04.420 about what's the best response that's his job but she's Perot 29:04.420 --> 29:06.460 good eve and it seems to make sense to me. 29:07.200 --> 29:10.620 On the Afghans under standard to the we talk to them. 29:11.130 --> 29:14.950 Are also new ones a bear hairy needed a threat. What Conway dewar. 29:15.500 --> 29:19.650 To help make sure that violence doesn't explode across the country. 29:20.150 --> 29:23.800 And one of the things is when escape alive profile particularly 29:23.800 --> 29:27.950 in periods of tension. So I think it's sensible this night change 29:27.950 --> 29:29.900 to the security force assistance model. 29:30.680 --> 29:34.740 There is no change to have a product that can panel progress. 29:35.300 --> 29:39.010 And now we're in a to do missions settle things. We do mission 29:39.010 --> 29:39.970 a central thinks. 29:40.580 --> 29:45.320 Ho's her opponent. I think he are personal opinion is it's probably 29:45.320 --> 29:48.310 in fact we've been surprised by their response. 29:48.830 --> 29:51.790 Because the sort of prevent millet tree business. 29:52.680 --> 29:54.380 I as for bastion. 29:55.090 --> 29:58.990 What's clear that the attack and a man quite honest to god. 29:59.030 --> 30:01.750 I never read it in investigation or are. 30:02.340 --> 30:05.140 Because it's not done yet on moneyray the initial reports the 30:05.140 --> 30:07.820 ticker it's pretty clear that was well planned. 30:08.500 --> 30:12.180 It's pretty equally that reconnaissance was down prior to. 30:12.850 --> 30:16.520 And like any good attacked its selected an approach looking for 30:16.520 --> 30:18.020 a week is for a vulnerability. 30:18.550 --> 30:19.920 In a particular position. 30:20.530 --> 30:23.360 And it's six boarded those things what we dining Zachary Nan 30:23.360 --> 30:24.960 to get the investigation is. 30:25.580 --> 30:28.690 You know exactly how that happen away the vulnerability was and 30:28.690 --> 30:29.920 what the weakness what. 30:30.680 --> 30:34.010 I what we've done number and that again we do this all the time 30:34.260 --> 30:37.600 that after an attack like that it causes you to go. 30:38.320 --> 30:42.800 And look real hot air all of the base is all of the force protection 30:42.800 --> 30:44.880 measures across the whole country. 30:45.460 --> 30:46.650 Cozy any attack. 30:47.290 --> 30:51.650 At tactical infrastructure caught and very really a successful. 30:52.170 --> 30:54.720 How this is more successful than normal. 30:55.340 --> 30:57.520 And we don't tackle lessons erasing. 30:58.040 --> 31:00.590 Check around the whole country to make sure that they can't be 31:00.590 --> 31:04.730 your fate will minimize the chance repay sedans. Nitty question. 31:05.090 --> 31:07.750 That's because I don't ninety eight to two questions. About. 31:14.070 --> 31:17.680 In general john carter with the asahi shimbun had any of the 31:17.680 --> 31:21.400 guardian angels actually it's awarded an insider attack the poor 31:21.400 --> 31:25.700 casualties were incurred or have been yearly served as a response force. 31:25.730 --> 31:28.910 You know shooting the guys we've party carried out. Attacks. 31:32.380 --> 31:35.030 I dismissive beginning and that was the first batter who. 31:35.780 --> 31:36.710 For of the. Attack. 31:39.540 --> 31:43.900 Has any of the guardian angels actually supported and insider 31:43.900 --> 31:47.870 attacks the forests casualties were incurred or have they merely 31:47.870 --> 31:51.570 served as a response force keep shooting that guys have carried 31:51.570 --> 31:54.570 out attacks after the attacks of are you. Heard. 31:59.330 --> 32:01.040 Yes you question is our. 32:02.030 --> 32:04.860 Hello my is absolutely certain growth ordered. 32:05.530 --> 32:07.300 A taxi dennis early nine of our. 32:08.140 --> 32:13.160 Because our in the day dine in the Casey's trautmann's for example. 32:14.680 --> 32:17.520 The actual shaded did a reconnaissance. So he walked around a 32:17.520 --> 32:21.890 number of times watched in art retain tried to see what was happening 32:21.890 --> 32:23.490 he actually what the guardian angel. 32:24.160 --> 32:28.330 And what cleanest any and picked a position a why from patents are. 32:29.000 --> 32:30.870 I at the answer is has there. 32:31.650 --> 32:34.740 Needed tack a guardian angel start someone particles because 32:34.740 --> 32:37.800 you're not sure that's happened. But don't think that's happened. 32:38.610 --> 32:42.570 Have got a nine chills our responded to me lane killed the attacker 32:42.570 --> 32:46.410 before aching compact because anymore because it is yes. 32:47.050 --> 32:51.100 On a number of occasions have a deterred added tack. I think 32:51.130 --> 32:52.270 almost certainly. 32:53.000 --> 32:55.130 Our endowment because. 32:55.870 --> 32:59.040 Handle it because the way it's done that's the purpose to to 32:59.040 --> 32:59.720 the attack. 33:00.500 --> 33:01.670 I N ain't. 33:02.270 --> 33:05.750 There otherwise is the Afghans a been pretty successful particularly 33:05.750 --> 33:08.290 lightly in now a pickup prize. 33:09.000 --> 33:11.960 You up potential risks before baby counterattack. 33:12.560 --> 33:15.370 And he do it a position and I think I could probably do attacks 33:15.370 --> 33:18.060 that had a bit a success with that whiteley. 33:18.580 --> 33:20.260 Toby bit hard to. 33:21.000 --> 33:23.570 Measure the true effectiveness a guardian angels because of the 33:23.570 --> 33:24.530 deterrents very. 33:25.060 --> 33:29.470 By Alice alienate the damage women in tech stocks doing this breaking. 33:30.060 --> 33:32.690 Sometimes directly victims in new tack back. 33:33.210 --> 33:33.550 At. Our. 33:40.150 --> 33:44.280 BerkShare irises I entered show of military time. So I'd like 33:44.280 --> 33:47.940 to ask you about the impact of general Allen's out restrictions 33:47.940 --> 33:52.960 on joint patrols are on life and operations inside the wire in 33:52.960 --> 33:56.500 a lot of for operating base is you have you as NATO troops and 33:56.500 --> 34:01.750 Afghan troops and Living side by side and are wondering if there's 34:01.780 --> 34:02.660 any all. 34:03.500 --> 34:07.800 Players to move people around fundamental changes to force protection 34:07.800 --> 34:10.030 measures on those spaces. I mean you know. 34:10.850 --> 34:13.120 How are you how to handle situations. 34:13.790 --> 34:15.010 In inside the. Wire. 34:18.100 --> 34:22.440 And One of their chinese with my direct air hasn't made in response 34:22.440 --> 34:23.240 to the recent. 34:23.940 --> 34:27.450 Insider said set saving from quite a lot will fall but. 34:28.400 --> 34:32.390 What you need to look at very closely ease the set up inside both. 34:33.370 --> 34:35.110 Sara and it's often. 34:35.740 --> 34:39.130 For small tactical infrastructure might lead kelly's eruptions 34:39.130 --> 34:42.950 and women in that way vast was sorry general our has directed. 34:43.740 --> 34:47.540 That everybody go back to look on the set up inside tactical 34:47.540 --> 34:49.350 infrastructure and by six are. 34:50.030 --> 34:54.460 Are our soldiers and Afghan soldiers positioned in such a way. 34:55.030 --> 34:58.950 That and they can be protected ken their daddy in for a devil 34:58.950 --> 35:02.050 very simply can't a guardian angel. What yummy while the all 35:02.050 --> 35:06.490 women of Wall there are sleeping or aiding inter protector and 35:06.490 --> 35:09.350 on old bikes is a constructed like that so there's a there's 35:09.350 --> 35:13.230 plane are pretty heavy emphasis on dying back and looking hot 35:13.230 --> 35:16.710 at the actual conditions on the ground and making sure that we're 35:16.710 --> 35:18.670 not place you've got the right security. 35:19.250 --> 35:23.950 Outsell the Afghans. How weapons managed how weapons handed out 35:24.040 --> 35:25.730 had as a guard system work. 35:26.330 --> 35:28.260 Are fitted critic so. 35:29.000 --> 35:32.350 But that sarah and it happens all the time. But I think arisen 35:32.350 --> 35:34.460 attacks plus attention. 35:35.040 --> 35:38.100 And Placid specific orders from jerryh on a go back and do it 35:38.280 --> 35:38.860 yet again. 35:39.590 --> 35:41.870 How is just making us do that. 35:42.550 --> 35:46.130 And general a good thing. No understand is you do it with Afghans 35:46.210 --> 35:50.350 in are doing it quietly in a corner or etcetera. It's done a 35:50.350 --> 35:54.360 hand in glove say Garay and and look at and applies to set up 35:54.360 --> 35:56.450 his on picket who's doing what etcetera. 35:57.000 --> 36:00.780 As I said the vast majority of Afghan soldiers and policemen. 36:01.530 --> 36:03.390 Are loyal hard working. 36:04.090 --> 36:04.850 Had committed. 36:05.430 --> 36:09.210 And manic you realize and regular price for Afghanistan and my 36:09.210 --> 36:11.620 some of our we get on well with. 36:12.540 --> 36:15.160 You you Knicks point. I think it took to their culture. 36:16.040 --> 36:17.740 And there's. Definitely. 36:18.630 --> 36:22.780 I'll cultural interaction problems and you wouldn't you of course 36:22.780 --> 36:26.350 you don't expect that would come from the west part of a our 36:26.780 --> 36:27.960 soldiers a young. 36:28.630 --> 36:30.610 I mean income is assessed time. 36:31.170 --> 36:34.870 Becoming out as our western culture stride into what is a pretty 36:34.870 --> 36:37.050 different culture and our brain to iraq. 36:37.780 --> 36:41.600 And iran or the peak age team on this is probably as as different 36:41.630 --> 36:44.920 as it gets to one allocating scarce brain. 36:45.690 --> 36:48.500 What can we do because really cultural when it's kind of can 36:48.500 --> 36:49.380 we do more. 36:50.070 --> 36:54.180 And now we're trying to on the coalition side and or a the U.S. 36:54.180 --> 36:59.220 system U.S. sammy sexy turning itself inside out to do everything 36:59.220 --> 37:02.800 a possibly can to prepare soldiers before they get he. 37:03.340 --> 37:06.860 On now are all lessons learned in it it's pretty simple things 37:06.860 --> 37:07.880 like swearing. 37:09.000 --> 37:12.210 Psp western sold us. We're striving towards never sway. 37:13.250 --> 37:16.950 I'd mites for a bit but that western style this way. 37:17.640 --> 37:21.780 And our the word sais when literally translate it can be extremely 37:21.780 --> 37:22.430 of its you've. 37:22.960 --> 37:26.240 To someone who thinks that it's a personally directed insult. 37:26.240 --> 37:29.550 So that's a very simple example where we're gonna tell our buck 37:29.550 --> 37:30.940 stops wherein. 37:31.860 --> 37:35.480 And we go tell Afghans that when we swear. 37:36.090 --> 37:38.800 It's done tech a person it might in it is trial in case. 37:38.800 --> 37:40.320 It's probably a term of the demon. 37:41.040 --> 37:45.060 So. We talked a long and I had with the Afghans about it. 37:45.060 --> 37:46.700 So acts even the president. 37:47.350 --> 37:51.840 Was briefed on it and he has a grave ed to give religious and 37:51.840 --> 37:56.070 cultural affairs offices to support our staff pre deployment 37:56.070 --> 38:00.880 training to counting as an Afghan on the ground and tell us. 38:01.530 --> 38:05.250 About the do's and don'ts and to reinforce some of this messaging. 38:06.030 --> 38:09.610 And we're also trying to push it back into the Afghan system. 38:09.610 --> 38:12.190 So that Afghans than it to understand last. 38:12.810 --> 38:17.500 Night I think joanne is a pretty smart guy he the way he describes 38:17.500 --> 38:21.670 it is and we've got a very excellent ds in this country. 38:22.190 --> 38:26.740 To be a good guest here the Do what's done in the home here in. 38:27.500 --> 38:32.710 I but also he calls on the Afghans to be good harris said I have 38:32.710 --> 38:36.260 to understand it destined try and our steer us in the right direction. 38:36.760 --> 38:41.580 So. It's a big challenge because you live chicken gel for you. 38:42.290 --> 38:45.290 With each other you get to say what each other really like that 38:45.530 --> 38:48.250 we've got to do everything. We possibly can that's our plan. 38:48.870 --> 38:52.060 To a listing former soldiers on both sides. 38:52.630 --> 38:56.760 Are what the dues in downtown what the red lines are. At. 39:03.420 --> 39:06.460 General judicious fewer than they see a talked earlier about. 39:07.350 --> 39:12.640 In the increased wear a nest on the part of ice out forces and 39:12.640 --> 39:14.110 you yourself mentioned that. 39:14.680 --> 39:16.650 You become increasingly wary. 39:17.330 --> 39:22.780 In terms of a mingling with some of the Afghan forces. So that 39:22.810 --> 39:23.710 in a sense. 39:24.530 --> 39:27.310 Haven't the attackers whatever their motive. 39:28.110 --> 39:31.790 Already succeeded in some respect in driving a wedge between 39:32.260 --> 39:35.790 the Afghans and The ice that. Forced. 39:40.370 --> 39:43.740 The lance there is. Yeah we're all professional soldiers creak 39:43.740 --> 39:46.680 in fight NATO hell freezes over so. 39:47.320 --> 39:48.230 Men are still. 39:49.050 --> 39:51.530 I truss appeared for deal with ponders careful. 39:52.230 --> 39:54.250 And that that's only sensible. 39:54.930 --> 39:57.220 So I mean are on a practical level. 39:57.800 --> 40:01.710 Heart. Really it struck an attention came panel. What's happened. 40:01.710 --> 40:05.280 He probably the bigger impact he's back where you are. 40:06.000 --> 40:07.880 And now the perception and hyman. 40:08.640 --> 40:12.590 Had a payout what is it mainly new friends in shady. So our. 40:13.210 --> 40:17.560 And the better risk at the strategic level. But here on the ground 40:17.560 --> 40:21.220 the gonna keep doing what we do and about we're gonna be really 40:21.220 --> 40:22.030 careful about. 40:23.000 --> 40:24.430 That because that's sensible. 40:25.030 --> 40:28.600 And we've won it that you can't necessarily say the tech commancer yet. 40:29.200 --> 40:31.200 When all wary yes. 40:31.810 --> 40:33.780 There's more care definitely true of. 40:34.500 --> 40:38.400 But downer fob in if you been a victim of one of these attacks. 40:38.900 --> 40:43.200 And you certainly gonna be more wary and you trust astronomy 40:43.200 --> 40:43.700 how they're going. 40:44.230 --> 40:46.720 To be dying. But then I stopped doing what they're doing. 40:47.290 --> 40:50.360 The salt assaulted going and the marines and then chairman. 40:51.050 --> 40:53.110 And and all of us. So our. 40:53.820 --> 40:58.060 It but I'd I think it in any real sense threatens the campaign execution. 40:58.740 --> 41:01.810 Inside Afghanistan as it is now. 41:02.600 --> 41:06.890 And but it is a different league does have an effect it's a negative effect. 41:07.500 --> 41:11.980 And it does straight truck back to home where our obviously you know. 41:12.740 --> 41:15.840 The victims the families of victims of insider text. 41:16.640 --> 41:20.680 I Oliver that forever Enam as each drawing the difficult to understand 41:20.680 --> 41:23.000 why it being shot by dies you've been sent to. Help. 41:25.540 --> 41:28.720 I fully that commissioning time running it's a simple. Yes man. Ever. 41:33.590 --> 41:36.670 And I just a quick follow up by which is so the very beginning 41:36.810 --> 41:40.610 in your opening remarks. You talked about the pending recovery 41:40.960 --> 41:44.680 of the surge forces up what spending how many more have to come 41:44.680 --> 41:46.590 out and how single. Epee. 41:49.610 --> 41:55.310 And This CEO at the Suez said recovery is his are upset not many not. 41:56.500 --> 41:57.270 Pretty soon. 41:58.000 --> 41:59.890 What can the next couple wakes. 42:00.640 --> 42:03.020 Iraq is a americans. 42:03.810 --> 42:07.020 Has watched the numbers down to the last individual human. 42:07.760 --> 42:10.950 Hannah and they're on track to be and in accordance with the 42:10.950 --> 42:12.530 and died of one or tie that so. 42:13.130 --> 42:15.000 What happens walk-on to leave. 42:15.640 --> 42:18.110 I wouldn't tell you and you are probably the exact numbers back 42:18.110 --> 42:20.900 because I want people to know that that I don't know them as 42:20.900 --> 42:21.470 up to die. 42:22.500 --> 42:26.000 A very depending on man strategically if we're tough. 42:26.840 --> 42:28.950 And they change daily by. 42:29.710 --> 42:32.180 It's where the hundreds if you know what I mean but the actual 42:32.180 --> 42:33.830 glide path down has an app. 42:34.380 --> 42:38.530 And the search back on time poorer. One october. So your effectively. 42:39.180 --> 42:40.830 Very very close. About. 42:45.660 --> 42:47.500 That's where you say this surges. Oh. 42:51.620 --> 42:55.140 Yeah our on I'm dennis iraq because ominous trial and one spare headquarters. 42:55.140 --> 42:59.540 I tax panel of so what I just sit if which is it's pretty because 42:59.570 --> 43:00.590 it's on track. 43:01.200 --> 43:05.340 Park and that's the U.S. surge recovery of forces that. Are. 43:11.260 --> 43:11.770 He might not. 43:13.000 --> 43:17.090 There is or when reserve soon and that is why go back to something 43:17.090 --> 43:18.110 your saying of. 43:18.780 --> 43:22.940 A recurring guardian angels. It said that there have been cases 43:22.940 --> 43:23.800 where are they know. 43:24.350 --> 43:27.800 How until the attackers before anyone else was killed. 43:28.330 --> 43:32.700 And I just wanted to say to quantify that in terms of the to 43:32.700 --> 43:36.680 have any statistics on how many cases papain they're gonna have 43:36.680 --> 43:40.030 those been reported out publicly-owned as part of the overall 43:40.030 --> 43:41.360 stats that we get when. 43:41.890 --> 43:44.640 We we asked you know I mean agreeable attacks. 43:45.380 --> 43:48.310 On. Have happened and X amount of. Time. 43:52.500 --> 43:57.220 I have to de back take exactly how many times a guardian angel fired. 43:58.080 --> 43:59.410 And are presented. 44:00.000 --> 44:00.600 Third out. 44:01.500 --> 44:04.410 Iran insists it it further injury to us holders. 44:05.160 --> 44:09.960 Op art I know one happen just recently where a American also 44:09.960 --> 44:13.510 was killed and a guardian angel fighting killed. The shooter. 44:14.500 --> 44:15.610 Immediately following. 44:16.140 --> 44:19.430 So that I would be guessing. If I gave you. 44:20.220 --> 44:23.830 Correspond statistically we might better do that offline it with 44:23.830 --> 44:26.200 attitude actually go back to everyone and check. 44:27.000 --> 44:28.810 Our actually doing that at present. 44:29.630 --> 44:32.350 I think the important thing wine point things are doing is a 44:32.350 --> 44:37.320 each insiders for it has now a joint casually assessment thing. 44:38.200 --> 44:41.840 What that means he is we go with the Afghans. 44:42.550 --> 44:43.920 To the axle incident. 44:44.680 --> 44:48.950 Then we go through being great do talon provider prepared joint. 44:49.680 --> 44:52.360 Do a join investigation then we share the data. 44:52.880 --> 44:55.460 Between us and them about who the shooter is. 44:56.060 --> 44:59.180 And and the circumstances of the particular attack. 44:59.830 --> 45:01.460 So at 45:02.960 --> 45:06.250 For a the best answer. I can give you off the cuff sitting in 45:06.250 --> 45:07.320 his chair and. Up. 45:12.140 --> 45:13.250 The. Poet. 45:15.170 --> 45:17.030 Sure in clerizo and did. 45:17.640 --> 45:21.020 You did say that there have been cases where guardian angels 45:21.020 --> 45:22.030 have stored in. 45:22.750 --> 45:25.540 An incident before anybody was killed the correct. 45:26.040 --> 45:28.620 Quote. Now I didn't say that. 45:29.250 --> 45:33.110 I didn't sack we're pretty sure that tad a deterrents belly was fine. 45:34.220 --> 45:40.720 Are we on our aware of any instance where we've shot someone 45:40.930 --> 45:44.410 in the middle of an attack but the four they've heard anybody 45:44.460 --> 45:45.480 but I have to take that. 45:46.210 --> 45:49.890 Have I know plenty of time. So fired during the tack. 45:50.500 --> 45:53.140 And on a number of occasions that killed the shooter. 45:54.000 --> 45:55.970 I'll orange of the shooter. 45:56.650 --> 46:00.290 And helped in the attack it can on a main but I cannot say. 46:00.810 --> 46:04.190 With certainty about have to take their funds in the fiber for 46:04.190 --> 46:05.150 anybody's been injured. 46:05.710 --> 46:06.670 When you think about it. 46:08.000 --> 46:11.610 That sort of makes sense because a lot of the attacks are short range. 46:11.690 --> 46:13.010 They conducted rapidly. 46:13.670 --> 46:14.640 In iran. 46:15.450 --> 46:18.950 Where they conducted in the dark can make an earth unexpected. 46:19.330 --> 46:19.630 I've. App. 46:24.890 --> 46:27.770 Visceral turn it back over to you for your final. Remarks. 46:31.030 --> 46:35.010 Yeah oak by than really got nothing more ted are just say. 46:35.570 --> 46:37.930 That are one of the things about RSS. 46:38.740 --> 46:41.660 Is that what we try and look forwards and backwards. 46:42.190 --> 46:43.210 In context. 46:43.800 --> 46:45.560 And try and keep the day-to-day. 46:46.450 --> 46:48.380 Activities in perspective. 46:49.090 --> 46:52.330 And that our all we think we're pretty much on track for the 46:52.330 --> 46:53.240 twenty four during. 46:54.030 --> 46:57.940 And being Afghanistan everyday teresa prior a different challenge. 46:58.620 --> 47:01.850 And you know me out if nothing if not you know the leave and 47:01.850 --> 47:06.430 committed star when the day he with the insider threat problem. 47:07.030 --> 47:10.310 Or any new tactics will they've narrows down and turn to try 47:10.310 --> 47:11.710 and keep out people sacked. 47:12.390 --> 47:16.040 And when are gonna starlight from that commitment to be successful 47:16.040 --> 47:16.810 when it can pack.. Up. 47:17.370 --> 47:23.350 Up. Thank. You. 47:26.800 --> 47:27.760 Crack thanks right..