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we have time for a few questions and we

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have uh for McConnell scholar alums

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in the audience . It's a little bit

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dark to see up here . There should be

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we're always balanced here , Mr

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Secretary , so there should be two on

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the right and two on the left and I see

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two right here . So put up your hand ,

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please , if you have a question now

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let's go quickly to the right . I don't

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see I see one right here .

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Um My name is MEREDITH lip . And you

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said it was our duty as americans to

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serve our country during your time in

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Washington . What you believe has been

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the greatest difference you have made

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in service to our country . What mark

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have you left for future generations ?

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Thank you . Thank you for the question .

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Um I I've always believed , I mean ,

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look , the joy of public services to

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get things done . I've never thought

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that people are elected to office . You

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just sit on their rear end uh and try

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to survive in office . I think the

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purpose of being elected is to get

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things done . And I had the good

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fortune of being in the Congress at a

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time when both parties work together

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and you have the opportunity to get

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some things done . Probably the one

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thing that , you know , I mean , Well ,

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there's there's several things , but

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let me just say , the one thing that

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I'm proud of is the work that I did on

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the budget . I was chairman of the

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budget committee . I had the

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opportunity to work on budget summits .

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It was it was involved in the first

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budget summit with President Reagan and

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he again sent up his Secretary of

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Treasury , set up his Chief of Staff .

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We gathered in a small room in the

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capital with the leadership and we

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worked through and developed a deficit

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reduction package . It was tough to do .

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It was not easy , but we did it . Uh

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Next opportunity was I sat in a summit

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at Andrews Air Force base For almost

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two months working again with

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bipartisan leadership and

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representatives from President Bush's

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Cabinet developing a deficit reduction

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package was a deficit reduction package

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Of about $500 billion . And it was

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tough and it was it was tough

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politically , but it was the right

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thing to do . That combined with

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when I was oh and be director putting

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together the budget plan for President

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Clinton , That also brought the deficit

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down by about $500 billion dollars and

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having the opportunity to work on that

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and get that through the Congress . I

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think it was the result of each of

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those plants plus obviously an economy

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that uh , that was able to move forward

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as a result of Washington showing some

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fiscal discipline . And the consequence

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of that was we balanced the federal

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budget and not only balanced it , but

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it had a surplus . And so that I

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I look back on that as an important

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achievement . And I regret that we're

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now back in the same hole and having to

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be able to come out of it again . But I

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do think that if the same kind of

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leadership comes together on the issues

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that had to be confronted , we can get

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that done . Obviously the other thing

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that I'm most proud of is obviously at

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the C . I . A . Having worked with some

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great men and women at the C . I . A .

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To uh not only develop the information

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on bin laden but to help put together

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the operation that finally brought him

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down . That's not bad , you know .

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Mhm . Uh My

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name is jesse lee thomas , I am a

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student here at Yeovil in the Political

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Science Master's Program and my

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question is a bit more specific . It

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pertains to um the dictatorship of

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Belarus Americans in general are

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bombarded with media reports on the

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Middle East , but if you even know the

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country of Belarus exists and and I

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find that a little bit worrisome given

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that millions of dollars from Russia

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have just been invested in the country

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for a nuclear energy program . Um and

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Secretary Clinton said that she

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supported this program um if belarus

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would adhere to international standards

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and regulations . However , the country

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does not seem to be ? Um Dude , I mean

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from past actions doesn't seem like

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that is a possibility . So what are we

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doing for our defense to

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make sure that this threat doesn't Come

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about ? I mean we're worried about

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nuclear power in Iran developing in the

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next 2-3 years . Is there any

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possibility that the Belarussian

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dictator could partner up could develop

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something that's not uh not important

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for us interest or something we don't

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want to happen . No . As I said in my

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speech , one of the concerns we have is

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obviously uh the proliferation of

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weapons of mass destruction . And I

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think we always have to be very very

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conscious of of the danger

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uh of that happening . Obviously that's

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what concerns us about Iran . Uh it's

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what concerns us about North Korea and

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it's what concerns us about other

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nations as well . Specifically with

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regards to belarus . Uh I have to say

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that uh I leave I leave that issue in

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the hands of the Secretary of State .

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But as Secretary of Defense , I want to

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make sure that we are taking the steps

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necessary to make sure that we are

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doing everything possible to try to

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limit any proliferation of weapons of

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mass destruction . And that means

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ensuring that no country uses nuclear

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power as a vehicle to develop nuclear

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weapons . That's something we have to

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stop

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Sarah . So what kind of Louisville ? My

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name is robert Rivas . So as the former

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D . C . And now Secretary of Defense ,

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what is the problem set that keeps you

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awake at night ? Yeah . Yes

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I got a hell of a lot to keep me awake

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at night . That's part of the problem .

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There are obviously a number of issues

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and concerns that are out there . I

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have to tell you that . I I do worry

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however about this new area , I talked

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about cyberwar . Uh

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we are literally getting hundreds of

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thousands of attacks every day that

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try to exploit information in various

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agencies and departments and frankly

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throughout this country . And

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there is obviously

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growing technology , growing expertise

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in the use of cyber warfare . And

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the danger is that cyber could I

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think , I think the capabilities are

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available in cyber to virtually cripple

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this nation to bring down our power

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grid system to impact on our well

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our governmental systems to impact on

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our but on Wall Street , on our

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financial systems uh and literally

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bring paralyzed this country

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and I think it's it's very important

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for us to understand that we not only

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have to defend against that kind of

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attack , but we have to develop the

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intelligence resources to understand

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when those that those possibilities are

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coming and to develop greater , greater

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capabilities in the cyber arena . So

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the one thing that I worry about the

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most right now is knowing that this is

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possible and feeling that we have not

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taken all the necessary steps to

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protect this country from that

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possibility . Yeah ,

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thank you so much for being here

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tonight . Secretary Panetta . My

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question is about the arab spring and

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the situation in the Middle East for

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over a year now we've been watching

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people in Syria and Egypt struggle for

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freedom and democracy . How do you feel

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that the events taking place in those

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countries impacts America's national

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defense ? Well , this is

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uh you know , we are going through a

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very historic time in in the Middle

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East , I guess the last time we

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encountered anything like this , that's

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close to this was the fall of the

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soviet union . And suddenly a number of

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nations uh going on their own and

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trying to develop what their system of

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governance would be . How to how to

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basically uh put together the

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institutions of govern , of governing ,

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how to be able to develop the kind of

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reforms that uh that they need and put

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it to put in place in order for people

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to be able to participate in their

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government in their governing , ah

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what's happening in the Middle East or

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what happened in Tunisia and Egypt ,

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what's happening and what happened in

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Libya , the turmoil that we now see in

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Syria , uh that we're seeing

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a Middle East that is truly in

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a in a changing state uh in which

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people are are are in fact trying

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to achieve a chance to be able

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to have a better life and to be able to

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govern themselves . And so we've seen

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these dramatic changes . I think the

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important thing is to try to do what we

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can to make sure that these changes

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move in the right direction when that

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kind of literal revolution takes place ,

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There are all kinds of forces that come

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into play . And there are those that

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would like to take advantage of those

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changes that that oftentimes

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represent uh extremism that represent

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the views that we don't concur in . Uh

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and so those begin to come into play as

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well . I think the greatest challenge

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for the United States and for the

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international community is to do what

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we can to ensure that these countries

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as they go through these changes can

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develop the institutions of government ,

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can develop the reforms that are

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important to developing a country that

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can truly represent greater freedom and

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greater opportunity to govern

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themselves for the future . That is not

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easy . That's a tough challenge . But I

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really believe that we have a chance

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now to be able to guide these countries

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in that direction and as this happens ,

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my view is that in fact it further

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isolates Iran , Iran is an influence

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that tries to undermine stability in

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these nations . The more these changes

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take place , the more isolated Iran

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will be . And I think ultimately uh

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the greatest , the greatest challenge

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we have in the Middle East region is to

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try to do what we can to promote

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greater stability and greater democracy .

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Mhm . Mhm .

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Yes . Hi , good afternoon , thank you

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all for speaking to me . Um 2000 and

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eight . Department of Defense Report

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noted how climate change will impact

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current and future U . S . National

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Security . The Department of Defense

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has been progressive in transitioning

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bases around the world , solar panels

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etcetera . But the noted climate

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patterns in Somalia have led to some

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difficulties with Al Shabaab there .

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And so first I was wondering if you

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could comment on the unusual topic of

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climate change with regard to the

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future of the Department of Defense .

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And then second , if you could help

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Senator mitch McConnell , except that

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science and stop blocking that

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legislation . Thank you .

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You know , I learned a long time ago ,

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don't don't mess around with people ,

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you know , uh state what you think is

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right and hope that uh you know that

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others will uh will will follow and be

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able to incorporate those thoughts and

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whatever whatever they do . Uh And I

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have tremendous respect for for mitch

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McConnell and I I think that , you know ,

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I've always enjoyed the opportunity to

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discuss with him not only this issue ,

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but other issues as well with regards

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to climate change . Uh the uh actually

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what I what we developed at the CIA was

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an an intelligence branch of the CIA

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that focused on that issue actually for

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for intelligence purposes because of

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the implications that these changes

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might have with regards to national

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security . Uh for example , when we

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incur greater droughts when we incur

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uh areas that uh that in fact have

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less rain uh and uh are incurring

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unusual climate impacts . Uh it

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creates obviously an impact in terms of

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the population , it's something we have

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to be aware of because that can create

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chaos . We've seen that happen in

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Africa , we've seen that happen in

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other parts of the world . So we need

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to have that kind of intelligence in

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addition , because of of the ice melt .

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Uh there is uh there are indications of

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rising ocean , we've already seen that

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take place . And there are concerns is

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how will that impact on ports ? How

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will that impact on facilities ? How

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will that impact on low lying levels

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that could be impacted by that ? So ,

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we continue to try to get intelligence

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on that as well . Uh In addition ,

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obviously , we we do look at the polar

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ice cap and are able through imagery to

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determine what's happening with the

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polar ice cap and just how quickly

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isn't melting . Uh and what that impact

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will be . I can tell you as the polar

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ice cap melts . What the national

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security implications are that

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countries like Russia and others are

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going to be looking for the opportunity

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to go into those areas and try to go

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after the resources in the arctic .

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They've already made claims to that

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effect . So clearly , as as it melts .

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And as those opportunities increase ,

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then there are countries that are going

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to they're going to assert themselves

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to try to gain access to the resources

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that are there , that also constitutes

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uh an issue that relates to national

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security . So , from an intelligence

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point of view , it's important for us

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to keep to keep track of those trends .

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Uh you know , this this isn't about the

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battle of , you know , uh climate

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change and and and and the issues

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related to that . This is about what we

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are seeing happening and the

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intelligence that flows from that , and

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that is important for us to consider ,

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as we look at issues that could

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threaten our national security .

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Mhm . Sorry .

