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thank you to Keio University for all

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the work you have put into hosting this

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event in particular , Professor and say ,

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okay and professor , I'm culpable

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as a former university president , I

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always look forward to visiting the

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academy and hearing from students .

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One large similarity between my current

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responsibilities as US Defence

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Secretary and my previous job as

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president of texas A and M . University

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is that in both instances I have been

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responsible for the well being of large

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numbers of college age men and women .

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It is a responsibility . I have taken

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very seriously and continue to take

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seriously today , especially with so

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much at stake for our young men and

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women in uniform and for our country .

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This is my third visit to Japan as

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Secretary of Defense and my fourth trip

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to Asia over the past eight months . It

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is a privilege to be the latest in a

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series of US senior leaders who have

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visited Japan over the past 12 months ,

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including President Obama , Secretary

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of State Clinton , Treasury Secretary

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Geithner , Commerce Secretary Lock and

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Energy Secretary chu . This past year

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we marked the 50th anniversary of the

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treaty of mutual cooperation and

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Security between the United States and

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Japan , As well as 150th anniversary of

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the first Japanese diplomatic mission

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to the United States , notably one of

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the younger members of that first

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japanese delegation , that's because

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our Yukiji , the founder of this

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university , as you know , Fukuzawa

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drew on his experience and subsequent

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visits to the United States to become

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Japan's preeminent expert on the

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institutions and values of american

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democracy and to shape this great

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institution of learning , writing more

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than a century ago , Fukuzawa saw

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extraordinary promise in the future

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bilateral relationship between Japan

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and the United States . This promise

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was tragically interrupted by war But

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fulfilled 50 years ago when our two

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nations forged a partnership that has

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fostered stability , prosperity and

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growing political freedom in Asia for

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most of the last half century , ours is

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an alliance based not just on economic

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and military necessity , but on shared

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values with respect to how governments

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should treat their own people and deal

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with other nations in the conduct of

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international affairs , a belief in

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democratic ideals and the pursuit of

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peace and prosperity through

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international norms and organizations

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rather than through militarism and

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coercion . I think it is important to

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remember those basic truths . Indeed ,

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the wide deep and rich array of values

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and interests that bind our two

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countries together , especially since

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news headlines about our alliance are

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often dominated by difficult issues

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such as host nation , support the

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futenma relocation and funding for Guam .

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So what I'd like to do this morning

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before taking your questions is to

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provide some strategic context to the U .

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S . Japan defense partnership . First ,

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I want to discuss the complex array of

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regional security challenges we face

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together and the benefits of addressing

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those challenges between and among

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nations of shared interests and second ,

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I want to explain the ways the US to

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Japan defense relationship and

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partnership must adapt to meet those

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challenges to include modernizing the

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alliance's military capabilities and

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basing arrangements over the course of

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its history . The U . S . Japan

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alliance has succeeded at its original

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core purpose to determine military

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aggression and provide an umbrella of

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security under which Japan and the

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region can prosper . Yeah , today our

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alliance is growing deeper and broader

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as we address a range of security

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challenges in Asia . Some like north

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Korea piracy or natural disasters

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have been around for decades ,

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centuries or since the beginning of

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tongues . Others such as global

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terrorist networks , cyber attacks and

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nuclear proliferation are of more

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recent vintage . What these issues have

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in common is that they all require

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multiple nations working together and

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they also almost always require

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leadership and involvement by key

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regional players such as the U . S .

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And Japan . In turn , we express our

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shared values by increasing our

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alliances capacity to provide

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humanitarian aid and disaster relief ,

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Take part in peacekeeping operations ,

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protect the global commons and promote

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cooperation and build trust through

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strengthening regional institutions .

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Everyone gathered here knows the

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crippling devastation that can be

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caused by natural disasters and the U .

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S . And Japan along with our partners

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in the region recognize that responding

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to these crises is of security

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imperative in recent years . U . S .

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And Japanese forces delivered aid to

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remote earthquake stricken regions in

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Indonesia and U . S . Aircraft based in

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Japan helped deliver assistance to

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typhoon victims in Burma . We worked

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together in response to the 2004 Indian

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Ocean , tsunami , earthquakes in Java

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Sumatra and Haiti and most recently ,

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following the floods in Pakistan .

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These efforts have demonstrated the

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forward deployment of U . S . Forces on

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Japan is of real and lifesaving value .

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They also provide new opportunities for

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the U . S . And Japanese forces to

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operate together by conducting joint

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exercises and missions furthermore .

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Us and Japanese troops have also been

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working on the global stage to confront

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the threat of failed or failing states .

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Japanese peacekeepers have operated

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around the world , including the Golan

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Heights and East Timor and assisted

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with reconstruction in Iraq . In

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Afghanistan , Japan represents the

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second largest financial donor , making

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substantive contributions to the

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international effort by funding

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salaries of the Afghan national police

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and helping the Afghan government

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integrate former insurgents .

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Furthermore , Japan and the United

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States also continue to cooperate

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closely to ensure the maritime commons

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are safe and secure for commercial

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traffic . Our maritime forces work hand

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in glove in the western pacific as well

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as in other vital sea passages such as

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the strait of malacca between Malaysia

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and Indonesia , where more than a third

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of the world's oil and trade shipments

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pass through every year around the Horn

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of Africa . Japan has deployed surface

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ships and patrol aircraft that operate

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alongside those from all over the world

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drawn by the common goal to counter

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piracy in vital sea lanes

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participating in these activities

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thrust Japan's military into a

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relatively new and at times sensitive

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role as an exporter of security . This

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is a far cry from the situation of even

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two decades ago when as I remember well

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as a senior national security official ,

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Japan was criticized for so called

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checkbook diplomacy , sending money but

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not troops to help the anti Saddam

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coalition during the first gulf war .

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By showing more willingness to send

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self defense forces abroad under

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international auspices consistent with

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your constitution , Japan is taking its

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rightful place alongside the world's

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other great democracies . That is part

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of the rationale for Japan's becoming a

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permanent member of a reformed United

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Nations Security Council . And since

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these challenges cannot be tackled

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through bilateral action alone , we

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must use the strong U . S . Japanese

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partnership as a platform to do more to

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strengthen multilateral institutions

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regional arrangements that must be

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inclusive , transparent and focused on

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results . Just a few months ago , I

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attended the historic first meeting of

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the Asean plus eight defense ministers

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meeting in Hanoi and I'm encouraged by

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Japan's decision to co chair the

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Military Medicine Working Group and as

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a proud pacific nation , the United

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States will take over the chairmanship

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of the ASia pacific Economic

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Cooperation Forum this year following

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Japan's successful tenure . Mhm

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Working through regional and

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international forums puts our alliance

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in the best position to confront some

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of ASIA's toughest security challenges .

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As we've been reminded once again in

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recent weeks , none has proved to be

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more vexing and enduring the north

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Korea , despite the hopes and best

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efforts of the South korean government ,

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the U . S . And our allies and the

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international community , the character

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and priorities of the North korean

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regime sadly have not changed . North

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Korea's ability to launch another

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conventional ground invasion is much

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degraded from even a decade ago . But

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in other respects , it has grown more

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lethal and more destabilizing today .

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It is North Korea's pursuit of nuclear

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weapons and the proliferation of

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nuclear know how and ballistic missile

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equipment that have focused our

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attention developments that threaten

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not only the peninsula but the pacific

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rim and international stability as well .

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In response to a series of provocations ,

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the most recent being the sinking of

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the Cheonan and North Korea's lethal

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shelling of a South korean island .

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Japan has stood shoulder to shoulder

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with the Republic of Korea and the

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United States . Our three countries

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continue to deepen our ties through

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defense trilateral talks . The kind of

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multilateral engagement among America's

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longstanding allies that the US would

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like to see strengthened and expanded

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over time . When and if North Korea's

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behavior gives us any reasons to

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believe that negotiations can be

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conducted productively and in good

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faith , we will work with Japan . South

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Korea Russia and china to resume

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engagement . Dialogue with North Korea

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Through the six party talks . The first

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step in the process should be north

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south engagement . But to be clear ,

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the North must also take concrete steps

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to honor its international obligations

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and comply with UN Security Council

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resolutions . Any progress toward

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defusing the crisis on the korean

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peninsula must include the active

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support of the people's Republic of

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China . Where as you probably know , I

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just finished an official visit , China

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has been another important player whose

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economic growth has fueled prosperity

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in this part of the world . But

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questions about its intentions and

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opaque military modernization program

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have been a source of concern to its

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neighbors . Questions about china's

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growing role in the region manifest

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themselves in the territorial disputes .

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Most recently , the incident in

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september near the Senkaku islands , an

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incident that served as a reminder of

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the important and the importance of

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America's and Japan's treaty

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obligations to one another . The US

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position on maritime security remains

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clear . We have a national interest in

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the freedom of navigation , in

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unimpeded economic development and

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commerce and in respect for

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international law . We also believe

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that customary international law as

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reflected in the UN Convention on the

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Law of the sea , provides clear

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guidance on the appropriate use of the

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maritime domain and rights of access to

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it . Nonetheless , I disagree with

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those who portray china as an

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inevitable strategic adversary of the

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United States . We welcome china that

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plays a constructive role on the world

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stage . In fact , the goal of my visit

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was to improve our military to military

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relationship and outlying areas of

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common interest . It is precisely

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because we have questions about China's

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military , just as they might have

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similar questions about the United

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States that I believe healthy dialogue

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is needed . Last fall , President

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Obama and President hu Jintao made a

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commitment to advance sustained and

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reliable defense ties , not a

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relationship repeatedly interrupted and

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subject to the vagaries of political

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weather . On a personal note , one of

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the things I learned from my experience

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in dealing with the soviet union during

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my earlier time in government was the

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importance of maintaining a strategic

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dialogue and open lines of

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communication . Even if specific

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agreements did not result on nuclear

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weapons or anything else . This

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dialogue helped us understand each

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other better and lessen the odds of

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misunderstandings and miscalculations .

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The Cold War is mercifully long over

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and the circumstances with china today

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are vastly different . But the

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importance of maintaining dialogue is

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as important today . For the last few

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minutes I've discussed some of the most

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pressing security challenges along with

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the most fruitful areas of regional

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cooperation facing the United States

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and Japan and Asia . This environment

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in terms of threats and opportunities

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is markedly different than the

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conditions that led to the forging of

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the U . S . Japanese defense

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partnership . In the context of a

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rivalry between two global superpowers

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But on account of the scope ,

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complexity and lethal 80 of these

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challenges , I would argue that our

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alliance is more necessary , more

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relevant and more important than ever .

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And maintaining the vitality and

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credibility of the alliance requires

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modernizing our force posture and other

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defense arrangements to better reflect

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the threats and military requirements

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of this century . For example , North

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Korea's ballistic missiles along with

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the proliferation of these weapons to

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other countries , require more

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effective alliance missile defense

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capability . The U . S . Japan

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partnership and missile defense is

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already one of the most advanced of its

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kind in the world . It was American and

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Japanese Egypt ships that together

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monitored the North Korean missile

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launches of 2006 and 2008 .

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This partnership , which relies on

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mutual support , cutting edge

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technology and information sharing in

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many ways reflect our alliance at its

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best . The U . S . And Japan have

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nearly completed the joint development

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of a new advanced interceptor , a

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system that represents a qualitative

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improvement over in our ability to

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thwart any North korean missile attack .

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The co location of our air and missile

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defense commands at Yokota and the

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associated opportunities for

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information sharing . Joint training

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and coordination in this area provides

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enormous value to both countries . As I

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alluded to earlier advances by the

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Chinese military and cyber and anti

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satellite warfare . Suppose a potential

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challenge to the ability of our forces

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to operate and communicate in this part

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of the pacific cyber attacks can also

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come from any direction and from a

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variety of sources state , non state or

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a combination thereof in ways that

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could inflict enormous damage to

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advanced network militaries and

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societies fortunately United States and

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Japan maintain a qualitative edge in

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satellite and computer technology . An

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advantage we are putting to good use in

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developing ways to counter threats to

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the cyber and space domains . Just last

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month , the government of Japan took

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another step forward in the evolution

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of the alliance . By releasing its

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National Defense Program guidelines , a

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document that lays out a vision for

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Japan's defense posture . These

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guidelines envision a more mobile and

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deployable force structure , enhanced

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intelligence , surveillance and

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reconnaissance capabilities and a shift

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in focus to Japan's southwest islands .

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These new guidelines provide an

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opportunity for even deeper cooperation

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between our two countries and the

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emphasis on your southwestern islands

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underscores the importance of our

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alliance force posture . And this is a

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key point because even as the alliance

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continues to evolve in strategy posture

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and military capabilities to deal with

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this century security challenge is a

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critical component will remain the

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forward presence of US military forces

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in Japan without such a presence ,

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North Korea's military provocations

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could be even more outrageous or worse

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china might behave more assertively

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toward its neighbors . It would take

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longer to evacuate civilians affected

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by conflict or natural disasters in the

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region . It would be more difficult and

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costly to conduct robust joint

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exercises such as the recent keen sword

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exercise that home , the U . S . And

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Japanese military's ability to operate

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and if necessary , fight together and

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without the forward presence of US

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forces in Japan , there would be less

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information sharing and coordination

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and we would know less about regional

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threats and the military capabilities

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of our potential adversaries . Given

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its importance to our alliance , we are

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pleased to have come to an agreement on

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host nations support Japan's

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contribution to the financial cost of

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our shared defense efforts . This

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support is a tangible sign of Japan's

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commitment to our security relationship

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and it enables the US to continue

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deploying our most advanced military

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capabilities in your defense . We are

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committed in return to using these

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funds efficiently effectively and

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transparently . As part of our Green

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alliance agenda , we will together

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explore ways to make the U . S .

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Military presence more environmentally

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friendly . The realignment roadmap

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issued five years ago was designed to

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modernize our presence by updating US

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basing arrangements , the most

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significant being the relocation of the

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air station . Futenma communities that

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host our bases make critical

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contributions to Japan's security and

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peace in the region . But we are

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constantly seeking ways to reduce the

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impact the U . S . Military activity

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imposes on local populations . The

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futenma relocation plan will return

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land and facilities to the Okinawan

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people , move thousands of US troops

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and their dependents out of the most

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densely part of populated southern part

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of the island and move the air station

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to the less populated north . As a

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result , after the relocation is

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completed , the average citizen of

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Okinawa , we'll see and hear far fewer

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U . S . Troops and aircraft than they

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do today . Finally , as our alliance

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grows and deepens further still , it

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will be important for Japan to take on

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even greater regional and global

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leadership roles that reflect its

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political , economic and military

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capacity in the United States . We are

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engaged in a robust debate about the

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size , composition and cost of our

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military . Even as President Obama has

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committed the US to a strategy of

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engagement and cooperation with special

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emphasis on Asia , we will continue to

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maintain the military strength

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necessary to protect our interests ,

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defend our allies and deter potential

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adversaries from acts of aggression and

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intimidation . To do this . We need a

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capable and committed security partner

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in Japan . I would close by noting that

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the world has changed to a truly

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remarkable extent since our partnership

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was first forged Just as no one in 1960

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could have predicted the need for

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cybersecurity or the challenges of a

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truly global economic order . We can't

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know with certainty what next threats

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and opportunities our nations will face .

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Shortly after it was signed at the

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White House , President Dwight

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Eisenhower hailed the treaty of mutual

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cooperation and Security as the

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fulfillment of a goal to establish an

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indestructible partnership between our

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two countries . I would say that over

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the past 50 years we have been faithful

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to that vision And whatever the next 50

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years old , I'm certain that our

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alliance will remain an indestructible

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force for stability pathway for

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promoting our shared values and a

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foundation upon which to build an ever

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more interconnected and peaceful

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international order . Thanks ,

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We uh ,

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we

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still have like 20 minutes and we're

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going to take a few questions from the

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floor . Uh , those of you who want to

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ask questions microphone

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Okay , so you need to look there

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forest and yeah , there

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second their

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third forces over

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there and I closed my

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fifth and if by some luck you may have

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another loud . All right , so please

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come to the microphone immediately and

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ran up there and without wasting time

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you can please identify yourself why

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you ask questions please thank you very

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much for today's speech . I'm our third

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grade student carry diversity . See

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um , so which case

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would be more threat fel to US policy

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first Japanese re mobilization without

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US alliance or two

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Chinese further development in major

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technology ? Well , I think

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that first of all we will we will see

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china further developing technology

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both for economic purposes but

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also for military purposes . We

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just seen earlier this week a

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demonstration of advances in In Chinese

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technology and the test flight of their

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J 20 stealth aircraft . So I think this

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is inevitable and the truth is most ,

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most countries will continue to advance

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in their technology as well , including

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the United States . I think that

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The experience of the past 50 years has

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demonstrated the value of the

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partnership between the United States

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and Japan and were too , we're

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just among other things were to Japan

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to decide to go . it alone , believe me ,

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the costs of its defense would rise

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dramatic because of our alliance ,

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Japan has been secure against

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foreign threats for over half a

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century At a cost of less than 1% of

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its GDP . I would say in economic

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terms this alliance has been a very

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good deal for Japan and I

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think that I think there are also

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larger strategic issues than make clear

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that our partnership yeah , makes the

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two of us far stronger together than

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either of us would have would be

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operating independently . So I think

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that for a variety of both strategic

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and economic reasons , this alliance

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makes a lot of sense . Thank you very

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much . The second question do you speak

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in english and they should give us , I

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missed you guys , thank you very much

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for today's lecture . I have three

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questions which I would like to get to

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answer . You have mentioned that its

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loan for America to take hostile

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attitude throughout china . My first

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question is in what concrete aspects

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would it be possible to let cordial

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agreement with the chinese authorities ?

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But psychologists is at what point

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would be impossible for the United

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States to compromise . Uh since the

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United States and china are quite

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different to each other in terms of

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particle system sense of values and

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governance , it has been pointed out

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that harmonization is very much limited

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now . Final first show is how well they

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are impractical . So I'm sorry what was

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the third question First ?

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Second , third ,

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uh since the United States and china

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are quite different to each other in

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terms of political system , sense of

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values and governance . It has been

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pointed out that howl incision is very

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vital limited of all the questions

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hospitalization may be practical .

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Well , first of all , I think there

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already have been a number of

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agreements between the United States

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and china over the years . Going back

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to the time of normalization , we have

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cooperated in certain security arenas ,

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particularly when the soviet union was

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still in existence . Clearly , we have

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a very close and huge economic

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relationship . There are

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an extraordinary number of chinese

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students studying in the United States

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and there are very close ties between

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many United States universities and

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their counterparts in china . So I

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think there's a wide arrange a wide

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array of relationships between the

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United States and china , that that

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underpin the relationship between the

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two countries and provide opportunities

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for us to get to know each other better

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and also to cooperate in a number of

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areas . When I was in china , we looked

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at areas where we could work together

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where even our military's could work

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together and agreed that we would

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pursue joint efforts in

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humanitarian assistance and disaster

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relief in counterterrorism and counter

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piracy and in dealing with some of

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these other challenges that these

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nations all face and common and while

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we don't have a formal agreement . I

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think it is apparent , as I said

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yesterday that the United States and

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china along with Japan and South Korea

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and Russia very much have in common the

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need for stability and peace on the

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korean peninsula and have worked

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together to bring about that goal and

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will continue to do so areas where

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it's impossible to compromise . I would

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say one area that has been a

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fundamental principle for the United

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States of America virtually since its

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founding is the freedom of navigation ,

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the freedom of the global commons for

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commerce and trade and for shipping .

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And we feel very strongly about this .

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This is a common principle that is

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enshrined in the UN law of the sea

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treaty and it is an area where I think

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there is very broad agreement among

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nations . So I would give that as an

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example where it would be very

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difficult for us to compromise . I

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think there are always opportunities

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for nations that have different

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economic and political systems

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to cooperate and to work together .

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Yeah , I think that We saw a

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lot of areas of cooperation ,

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particularly in the 1980s and 1990s ,

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even between the United States and the

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Soviet Union in trying to deal with

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common problems and trying to reduce

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the level of nuclear weapons and get

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better control of regional conflicts .

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So I think that there is the fact that

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two countries have different political

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and particularly different political

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systems is no obstacle . Two

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harmonious relationship and I think

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what we all work for is to ensure that

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those kinds of relationships are

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strengthened and expanded to the extent

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we possibly can . Alright ,

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next time you've got to ask three

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questions just well , okay , thank you

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for today's opportunity . My name's

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cassia Nagano from Faculty of Law . Um

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since you mentioned about outlining

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common interests and sustaining and

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constructing relationship with China ,

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I would like to ask you how you are

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looking at the current situation of

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china's civilian control over its army .

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And I ask this question because if

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truly the civilian leaders , including

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president who had no prior intel on the

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test flights of the self fighters ,

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then doesn't that represent the

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apartness and the prominence of china's

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military military even within its own

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country as it is the world . Would you

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mind sharing your perspective ? This is

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an area where over the last several

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years we have seen

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some signs of

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I guess I would call it a disconnect

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between the military and the

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civilian leadership . We

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think that the civilian leadership was

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not aware of the aggressive approach by

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chinese ships to the U . S . Navy ship

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impeccable two or three years ago , we

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think that our information is that

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the civilian leadership may not have

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known about the anti satellite test

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that was conducted about three years

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ago . And as I indicated

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yesterday there were pretty clear

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indications that they were unaware of

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The flight test of the F 35 of the of

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the J 20 rather . And

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I think that part of this ,

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based on my experience , very long

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experience in government is

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can be explained by , yeah ,

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bureaucratic mistakes . There

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have been more than a few occasions

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when the United States military was

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conducting an exercise or carrying out

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an activity and

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not sensitive to the fact that a

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foreign visitor might be in Washington

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at the same time . But on the whole , I

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do think that this is something that

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that is a worry . And

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one of the reasons why I have pressed

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so hard for there to be a

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deeper senior level civilian military

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dialogue with both civilian and

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military representatives from both

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sides from both countries is that we

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have no forum right now on security

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issues of our military

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issues that includes senior civilians

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and military . And and I think

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that one of the questions I was asked

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by the chinese is how do you

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differentiate this from all of the

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other mechanisms for dialogue and the

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military to military arena ? And my

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argument back was this would

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be this is this would be the only one

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where senior civilians and military are

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sitting together . And I think that has

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great benefit . And I think that

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I don't I don't question the party's

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control of the LA military or

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of the LA I have no

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doubts about the fact the president hu

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jintao his in command and in charge ,

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but but I just know from our own system

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at times , there are disconnect between

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military information flowing to to our

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civilian leaders frankly , this has

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been one of the benefits over the

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decades for the United States of the

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National Security Council , the

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National Security Council staff where

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the civilian and military sides of the

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government are brought together

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routinely and where information about

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military operations is shared in detail ,

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not just with the White House but also

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with the State Department . So we are

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tied closely together . So I think

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there are opportunities in this

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dialogue to advance that kind of

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civilian military cooperation and

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and I think it would also enhance

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military to military relationships .

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Thank you very much . Next time . My

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name is Watanabe from Faculty of Policy

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Management . My question is

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considering the Japan's new defense

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strategy that was published last year

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on , I want to know what is the

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role of Japan and what do you exactly

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expect from Japanese government about

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air sea battle ? Cause it , thank you .

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Well , first of all , we are

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fully cognizant of the terms of

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Japan's constitution and that that

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imposes limits in terms of what the

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self defense forces can do . By the

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same token as I mentioned in my remarks ,

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one of the things that we have

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applauded has been a growing

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willingness of the Japanese government

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to employed its military

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capabilities under international

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auspices for peacekeeping and counter

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piracy and dealing with some of these

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other issues . These these are the

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kinds of responsibilities great powers

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must assume . I think

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that are close working relationship ,

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the exercises we do together clearly

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are in the framework of the defense of

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Japan and allowing us to be able to

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fulfill our obligations under the

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mutual security , treating clearly over

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the years . We have a

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discussed on many occasions with the

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Japanese whether the limits of the

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constitution extend for example to if

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U . S . And Japanese forces are

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exercising or operating together and

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the U . S . Forces are attacked . Do

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the do the Japanese forces come to

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their assistance and frankly we're

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still working through some of these

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issues but I think this is the value of

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the dialogue we have . Um our

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relationship with the Japanese self

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defense forces has gotten better and

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better every single year and frankly

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has I think improved fairly

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dramatically in recent years and we'll

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continue working together . So our

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expectations of Japan is first of all

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that they will do what is necessary in

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terms of their own interests to defend

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Japan . But we also welcome their

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broader interpretation of Japan's

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international responsibilities as well .

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Thank you . I am afraid that this is

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going to be a christian right out . So

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I'm sorry for the rest of us are us .

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Okay , thank you , thank you partner up

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for sure .

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The I want to ask you about the gap

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between the chinese military

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to and political leaders

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and there's some arguments about that .

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Mhm . The Americas , United

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States foreign strategy calls the gap

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and some people believe that the

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America is one of the main causes of

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the creating the gap . I would like to

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ask how you think about this .

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Well I wish we had that much influence .

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Right ? The I think the United

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States that has

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to the degree yeah that there is some

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kind of a gap I can assure you that we

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have had no role in creating it and see

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it in our interest to close it . But

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this is a matter . This is an internal

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matter for the chinese and as I

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indicated earlier , although

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on some specific operational issues

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there we think there have been some

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communication gaps in the larger sense

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of who controls the chinese

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military and who has the ultimate

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authority . There is no doubt in my

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mind that it is President hu jin town

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and night civilian leadership of

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that government . So , but I

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think that the dialogue that I'm

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talking about and that I propose to the

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chinese has the potential to reduce

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the chances of miscommunications

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as well as deal with some of the larger

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issues that we've been talking about ,

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whether it's for navigation or

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technological developments in

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capabilities . But I just

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want to underscore , I believe we've

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seen instances where specific events

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took place where the chinese civilian

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leadership may not have known about

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them in advance . But in terms of

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overall control of the chinese military

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forces . I have no doubt whatsoever

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that President hu and the civilian

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leadership are fully in command . Thank

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you very much . Thank you very much .

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I found everybody . I was also ,

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Can you get peaceful ?

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Thank you . We're preserving something ,

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Yeah .

