WEBVTT 00:04.240 --> 00:06.184 um Okay , so if you could just say 00:06.184 --> 00:09.930 you're careful , name and 00:09.930 --> 00:12.980 rank and your position . Uh Sorry , 00:12.980 --> 00:15.320 first class Michael Landsberg with 23 00:15.320 --> 00:17.042 sapper company , third platoon 00:17.042 --> 00:20.850 breaching break from California and 00:22.140 --> 00:24.307 my guys , they're in there right now , 00:24.307 --> 00:26.690 but introducing them to them too , but 00:26.700 --> 00:28.811 they're all the other things . So can 00:28.811 --> 00:31.240 you explain what the breach and break 00:31.570 --> 00:33.570 you guys ? What the breach of break 00:33.570 --> 00:35.626 does that we come into a rubble pile 00:35.626 --> 00:37.626 and you see that you have different 00:37.626 --> 00:36.940 crews like ropes , crew . And showing 00:36.940 --> 00:39.162 through our jobs , you ever come across 00:39.162 --> 00:41.410 an obstacle concrete steel ? Would our 00:41.410 --> 00:43.521 job is to reach through that obstacle 00:43.521 --> 00:45.577 using tools that we provide to us or 00:45.577 --> 00:47.688 tools that we can request in order to 00:47.688 --> 00:49.743 get to the other side so that we can 00:49.743 --> 00:49.660 continue to monitor the atmosphere , 00:49.740 --> 00:51.962 get medics in any other kind of support 00:51.962 --> 00:54.073 that we need to do . So they continue 00:54.073 --> 00:56.296 on with the search mission and what are 00:56.296 --> 00:58.518 they doing right now ? Right now all my 00:58.518 --> 01:00.573 guys are doing uh in this scenario , 01:00.573 --> 01:02.740 they have to go to the fourth story to 01:02.740 --> 01:04.907 get a victim that is believed to be up 01:04.907 --> 01:06.962 there . So what they're doing now is 01:06.962 --> 01:06.700 what we call a confined space entry . 01:06.710 --> 01:08.821 So they're going through culverts and 01:08.821 --> 01:11.043 tunnels and going through rubble and if 01:11.043 --> 01:13.210 they come across an obstacle that they 01:13.210 --> 01:15.432 have their breach , they'll call out to 01:15.432 --> 01:15.330 me , I'll send them the tools that they 01:15.330 --> 01:17.330 need and we'll get another team are 01:17.330 --> 01:19.330 here to assist them to finish their 01:19.330 --> 01:21.608 mission and aside from the bricks guys . 01:21.608 --> 01:24.550 So what what do you guys know about 01:25.340 --> 01:28.600 when they're laughing equipment ? Um I 01:28.610 --> 01:32.260 guess Like the 4th word question . All 01:32.260 --> 01:35.270 right . Um One of the things they do 01:35.270 --> 01:36.881 and they don't have all this 01:37.250 --> 01:39.610 jackhammers and stuff at their at their 01:39.620 --> 01:41.787 fingertips . Knowing what happens when 01:41.787 --> 01:43.842 you guys don't have the equipment is 01:43.842 --> 01:45.953 well , we initially we do request and 01:45.953 --> 01:47.953 then until that request is filled , 01:47.953 --> 01:50.231 we'll work with what we have in common . 01:50.231 --> 01:49.460 Engineers were pretty resourceful . We 01:49.460 --> 01:51.627 have guys on the civilian side that do 01:51.627 --> 01:53.182 a lot of different types of 01:53.182 --> 01:55.293 construction trades . Although we try 01:55.293 --> 01:55.160 to build our teams around guys that 01:55.160 --> 01:57.216 have different types of skill assets 01:57.216 --> 01:59.216 and superior world up will apply to 01:59.216 --> 02:01.104 their s and job . So when we come 02:01.104 --> 02:03.216 across situation , we don't have that 02:03.216 --> 02:05.438 tool to request it . Wait for that tool 02:05.438 --> 02:07.604 to get there . It doesn't happen . And 02:07.604 --> 02:07.360 we have to find a way to improvise . 02:07.360 --> 02:09.770 You know , we have the ability to hire 02:09.770 --> 02:11.770 FC . Well , I would go in the local 02:11.770 --> 02:14.048 economy and purchase that or borrow it , 02:14.048 --> 02:16.103 That sort of thing . So sometimes it 02:16.103 --> 02:18.270 could be a weight game . But most time 02:18.270 --> 02:20.381 we ever happen to improvise , Pause , 02:20.381 --> 02:22.550 pause for two seconds . Mhm . 02:24.440 --> 02:28.060 All right . And continue . Okay , so 02:28.240 --> 02:31.300 you deploy a place in Afghanistan in 02:31.310 --> 02:34.540 2009 . Can you talk about how this is 02:34.550 --> 02:36.560 different from your comment ? A 02:36.570 --> 02:38.681 competition . What we did was kind of 02:38.681 --> 02:40.681 one and the same combination here . 02:40.681 --> 02:42.626 Your job is to remove obstacles in 02:42.626 --> 02:44.792 Afghanistan . We did route clearance . 02:44.792 --> 02:46.959 Our job was remove IEDs and you know , 02:46.959 --> 02:49.070 enemy combatants from the battlefield 02:49.070 --> 02:48.140 here . What we're doing is we're 02:48.140 --> 02:50.362 removing rocks from the battlefield and 02:50.362 --> 02:52.529 different types of obstacles . So they 02:52.529 --> 02:54.640 go hand in hand , removal obstacles . 02:54.640 --> 02:56.870 That's the primary mission . And what 02:56.870 --> 02:58.926 kind of training did they have to do 02:58.926 --> 03:01.148 this ? Um , everybody has to go through 03:01.148 --> 03:03.370 the rig course in Oklahoma , that's the 03:03.370 --> 03:05.537 base and then there's advanced courses 03:05.537 --> 03:05.470 you can take after that . There's 03:05.470 --> 03:07.470 another of course you can take with 03:07.470 --> 03:09.526 fire fires and we've had guys go out 03:09.526 --> 03:11.748 and we got with local fire fires in our 03:11.748 --> 03:13.748 community and get hands on training 03:13.748 --> 03:15.970 with different type of road to rescue . 03:15.970 --> 03:15.750 Another type of breaching . Thanks . Uh , 03:16.040 --> 03:18.262 the use our teams , the fire teams have 03:18.262 --> 03:20.429 different capabilities than we do . So 03:20.429 --> 03:22.596 it's nice to be able to go train these 03:22.596 --> 03:24.651 other guys in order to see what they 03:24.651 --> 03:26.596 have and they see that we have and 03:26.596 --> 03:28.762 everybody knows the type of assets are 03:28.762 --> 03:28.530 available and then we can request what 03:28.530 --> 03:31.420 they have and we'll hopefully we'll get 03:31.420 --> 03:33.642 it , you know , that's that's yet to be 03:33.642 --> 03:35.753 said . But uh , I guess the ability . 03:35.753 --> 03:35.700 So yeah , everybody gets that based 03:35.700 --> 03:38.033 training and we go , it goes from there . 03:38.033 --> 03:39.867 It only goes up and when you say 03:39.867 --> 03:41.867 everybody all come back in here and 03:41.867 --> 03:43.922 there are 2 30 to everybody who's in 03:43.922 --> 03:45.930 the to 35th and the deacon guys , I 03:45.930 --> 03:47.930 can't speak for them . I think they 03:47.930 --> 03:49.930 have a different type of training . 03:49.930 --> 03:51.986 They have to go through all the guys 03:51.986 --> 03:51.740 and their two or 3/5 Sapper company , 03:51.740 --> 03:53.796 all the guys that are required to go 03:53.796 --> 03:55.851 through that training . And that's a 03:55.851 --> 03:57.960 one week course in Oklahoma . And 04:00.040 --> 04:03.910 sorry , just like a hand right on 04:03.910 --> 04:07.630 man . Um , and 04:07.640 --> 04:10.070 it is , can you talk about how you guys 04:10.070 --> 04:12.181 are performing out here ? My guys are 04:12.181 --> 04:14.181 pretty well that the key to this is 04:14.181 --> 04:16.237 motivation . You guys got to get out 04:16.237 --> 04:18.459 here and were expected to be hot . It's 04:18.459 --> 04:18.240 not hot . It's cold in its way , which 04:18.240 --> 04:20.129 is like it is for us at home . So 04:20.129 --> 04:22.462 that's the situation normal for us . So , 04:22.462 --> 04:24.629 I mean guys have good morale . They're 04:24.629 --> 04:26.573 well fed our sleep cycles . Little 04:26.573 --> 04:28.462 screw up right now . But actually 04:28.462 --> 04:28.040 that's a good thing to train for 04:28.040 --> 04:30.151 because you get the guys and at least 04:30.151 --> 04:31.984 you have a chance to see how the 04:31.984 --> 04:34.040 soldiers going to react in the world 04:34.040 --> 04:36.950 war situation . And how do you feel ? 04:36.960 --> 04:38.960 Have you ever done any type of bill 04:38.960 --> 04:41.182 Walton quick . Now , the only time uh , 04:41.182 --> 04:43.238 with the two third girl , we've only 04:43.238 --> 04:44.960 done just training scenarios , 04:44.960 --> 04:44.550 different type of , you know , we've 04:44.560 --> 04:47.380 gone to Guam hawaii Wisconsin here in 04:47.380 --> 04:49.300 other States to do training , but 04:49.310 --> 04:52.310 nothing real world . But you how do you 04:52.310 --> 04:54.000 feel this ? Yeah , 04:56.740 --> 04:59.360 it's as close as you can get . The one 04:59.360 --> 05:01.416 thing you're lacking of course is uh 05:01.416 --> 05:03.700 actual human contact and , you know , 05:03.710 --> 05:06.030 you know fatalities . that changes 05:06.030 --> 05:07.808 everything , fatalities changes 05:07.808 --> 05:09.752 everything . That's the way we can 05:09.752 --> 05:12.030 simulate fatalities as much as you can . 05:12.030 --> 05:11.590 But you know , until you have to deal 05:11.590 --> 05:13.646 with that , I mean , that's that's a 05:13.646 --> 05:15.812 that's the biggest difference . And um 05:15.812 --> 05:18.034 what's the biggest challenges head on ? 05:18.034 --> 05:20.034 I think our biggest challenge is uh 05:20.140 --> 05:23.510 barbie , our equipment goes down and 05:23.510 --> 05:25.677 getting it fixed right away or getting 05:25.677 --> 05:27.788 new stuff feeling right away . That's 05:27.788 --> 05:30.010 probably the biggest challenge . But my 05:30.010 --> 05:32.177 guys are good at what they do and they 05:32.177 --> 05:34.399 just they it up and they still we still 05:34.399 --> 05:34.280 we had tools break over here and they 05:34.280 --> 05:36.169 still were able to accomplish the 05:36.169 --> 05:38.391 mission . So what's the best part about 05:38.391 --> 05:40.558 being out here ? The best part working 05:40.558 --> 05:42.669 with my men , definitely , you know , 05:42.669 --> 05:44.836 and uh leading them and they handed up 05:44.836 --> 05:46.836 to my junior leaders helped develop 05:46.836 --> 05:46.700 them and their leadership skills and 05:46.700 --> 05:48.922 see how they don't develop and grow and 05:48.922 --> 05:51.033 they hand up to their guys . So , you 05:51.033 --> 05:53.311 know , even though it's not , you know , 05:53.311 --> 05:52.800 we're not on the battlefield , still 05:52.800 --> 05:54.467 everything that we're using a 05:54.467 --> 05:56.689 battlefield type of leadership skills , 05:56.689 --> 05:56.500 we still apply it out here . So that's 05:56.500 --> 05:58.640 that's the best part and can do this 05:58.640 --> 06:01.000 walk . It's a really quick when the 06:01.010 --> 06:03.390 disaster just called in . What is the 06:03.390 --> 06:06.000 lead up and then like the time when 06:06.000 --> 06:08.056 search and extraction team gets on , 06:08.240 --> 06:11.140 The way it works for us is we'll get a 06:11.150 --> 06:13.317 an incident happens and then we'll get 06:13.317 --> 06:15.594 a call sometime . All right . You know , 06:15.594 --> 06:17.817 it depends on when you were required to 06:17.817 --> 06:19.983 be there . And our unit has a six hour 06:19.983 --> 06:22.206 recall , you know , being in California 06:22.206 --> 06:24.317 and being a long state , we have guys 06:24.317 --> 06:26.539 that are 4-5 hours away from our actual 06:26.539 --> 06:25.990 units . It actually takes them that 06:25.990 --> 06:28.212 long to get there . So then after a six 06:28.212 --> 06:30.157 hour recall , we assembled , we go 06:30.157 --> 06:32.157 through our pre combat checks , pre 06:32.157 --> 06:34.268 combat inspections and uh , make sure 06:34.268 --> 06:36.268 things are going to our equipment , 06:36.268 --> 06:38.490 final plan , any final stuff we have to 06:38.490 --> 06:38.440 get them away from higher up to tell us 06:38.440 --> 06:40.329 when they're ready for us to make 06:40.329 --> 06:42.551 movement . And while that's happening , 06:42.551 --> 06:44.551 there's other plans being conducted 06:44.551 --> 06:44.450 above us . But our level , it's just 06:44.450 --> 06:46.672 basically we do a lot of good prep like 06:46.672 --> 06:48.728 after this , we'll go back and we'll 06:48.728 --> 06:50.783 reset so that if something happens , 06:50.783 --> 06:52.894 all we gotta do is come in , grab our 06:52.894 --> 06:54.950 gear and go . So and when you get on 06:54.950 --> 06:56.880 site that about how long America 06:56.880 --> 06:59.158 yesterday , there's a lot of your here , 06:59.158 --> 07:01.324 but you can get on . Yeah , it depends 07:01.324 --> 07:03.547 on this site . If you have a small foot 07:03.547 --> 07:05.658 footprint like this and there's a lot 07:05.658 --> 07:07.824 of congestion , a lot of people here . 07:07.824 --> 07:09.991 It could it could uh slows things down 07:09.991 --> 07:11.991 because this organization has to be 07:11.991 --> 07:14.047 here first quarter part . Say you're 07:14.047 --> 07:13.930 gonna go here , you're going to go 07:13.930 --> 07:16.097 there . If it's a larger footprint and 07:16.097 --> 07:17.986 then it's really easy to organize 07:17.986 --> 07:20.041 everybody because you have different 07:20.041 --> 07:19.570 places , you can segregate everybody 07:19.580 --> 07:21.580 and also depends on how big the hot 07:21.580 --> 07:23.802 zone is right now . Typically they were 07:23.802 --> 07:25.691 in the hot zone . It's a chemical 07:25.691 --> 07:27.858 environment would be all suited up and 07:27.858 --> 07:27.810 that sort of thing . So that's what 07:27.820 --> 07:29.653 that's that's gonna drive that . 07:29.653 --> 07:31.764 Ultimately they're gonna cut mine off 07:31.764 --> 07:33.760 now . Yeah . Actually I think even 07:35.540 --> 07:38.060 anything you'd like to add mean 07:38.070 --> 07:40.760 anything when asking . No , you do you 07:40.760 --> 07:42.760 have any questions ? No , I don't . 07:42.760 --> 07:44.982 Yeah , I think I'm going to do you have 07:44.982 --> 07:47.890 anything you know , that's good to ask 07:47.890 --> 07:49.050 all the questions .