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sir there , there was this article in

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the Huffington Post that talks about

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all the equipment that we're going to

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leave behind in Iraq . Can you try to

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put into perspective for us how much

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equipment is going to be left behind

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and what kind of equipment ? Well

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actually , thanks jennifer for having

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me on your show . And actually uh yeah ,

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I can talk about the uh , what are

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missions are with respect to the

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drawdown ? Our transfer of bases are

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redeployment of equipment and personnel

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and then what is actually saying here ,

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if you'd like ? That sounds great .

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So , so what are we leaving behind and

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why ? Well , a lot of the equipment

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that is , most of the equipment that is

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being left behind are things like air

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conditioners . Let me give you an

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example , you know today in Baghdad ,

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the high was 102 degrees and it's

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nearly october and obviously it's over

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1 20 or 1 30 sometimes in the summer

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time . So air conditioners have been

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pretty important to , to keep our

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troops able to sleep at night over the

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last eight years , whether they're

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sleeping in tents or or trailers .

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These air conditioners that we brought

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here and we've been using for the last

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eight years . We've got to do something

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with them as we transition the basis .

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So we really , it seems to me we really

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have three choices . We can either

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leave the equipment to whoever may find

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it basically abandon it as we

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transition the base or we can pay the

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millions of dollars it would take to

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move this equipment back to the United

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States or we can maintain complete

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accountability of it and transfer it to

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the government of Iraq who might be

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able to still get some use out of it

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given that we choose to take the most

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responsible route which is to transfer

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this equipment so to date . And

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although the numbers change a little

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bit , We've transferred 347 million

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pieces of equipment worth about $313

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million dollars to the government of

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Iraq . Things like trailers , old

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generators , what we call containerized

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housing units , which are trailers . Uh

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and we've saved in transportation cost

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the us taxpayer more than $600 million .

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And that's just as of today , How much

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is left to be transferred in the next

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three months ? We still have , we have

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redeployed or transferred about

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Uh more than 1.5 million pieces of

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equipment in the last year . And we

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have about 800,000 left to go before

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the , before the year is over . We're

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on track completely to transfer or

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redeploy all of that equipment . And

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it's it's an extensive logistical

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effort . Let me just give an example .

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Last week we had 571 convoys on the

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road coming into and going out of Iraq

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including more than 17,000 trucks . All

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of this has planned , coordinated with

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the Iraqi security forces synchronized .

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And uh it's really it's really a mark

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of our responsible stewardship of

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the U . S . Taxpayers dollars . What do

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you mean by those convoys those are

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trucks that are leading , what are they ?

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They're just transferring equipment .

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Now . Those are trucks that are

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actually both coming into the country

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and going going out . You know , we

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still have about 44,000 troops in Iraq .

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And of course we're on track to

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redeploy all of those troops by the by

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the end of the year honoring our all of

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our commitments to the government of

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Iraq under security agreement . But we

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still have to provide food and fuel for

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our equipment and our troops that are

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here . So some of the convoys come in

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with with supplies like food and fuel

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uh and all of them leave with equipment

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headed out of the country . Sir , if we

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do go down to zero US troops by the end

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of the year , as called for by the sofa ,

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um how many security contractors will

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be required next year ? How many to

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for instance secure the embassy ? How

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many what are the plans for ? How many

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contractors will be left ? Well ,

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currently I'll give you a scope of it .

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We have uh and for the most of this

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past year we've had slightly more

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contractors in Iraq than we had

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military personnel . Right ? As of last

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week we had about 52,000 contractors

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and 44,000 troops . Those numbers of

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course are going down so from a

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military perspective the military

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contractors that work for Department of

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Defense will go down to zero , just

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like the just like the troops will .

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Now we have contractors here that work

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for the embassy for example those that

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perform security around the perimeters

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of the embassy itself in Baghdad or the

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two consulates general in uh Air Bill

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and basra are contractors . The

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majority of the people who will be

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flying aircraft and supported the

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embassy will be contractors . Many of

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those missions have been performed by

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the by the military over the past

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number of years and those are

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transitioning the contractors , I can't

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give you an exact number but it will be

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a fairly significant number in that the

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embassy here in Iraq is ah

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commensurate with our largest embassies

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in the world . And when you talk about

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those 52,000 contractors , those are

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all security contractors . Uh no

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jennifer only about 15% our security

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contractors , many of them drive trucks .

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In fact the majority of them before

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missions as as we call life support .

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So they might be uh they might be

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driving trucks or working in the dining

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facilities , uh working in laundries ,

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these kinds of things I've seen quoted

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that there would be 8000 security

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contractors needed to secure the

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embassy . Is that accurate ? I don't

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know the exact number . I'd have to

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refer you to the Department of State

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for numbers that they're looking for on

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securing the embassies , but again ,

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it's not just the , I'm sorry , it's

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not just the embassy in Baghdad to

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consulates General in Air Bill and

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basra and a diplomatic security

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presence or a diplomatic presence in

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Kirk cook as well . Okay . How many

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bases did we have at the height of the

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war and how many do we have now ? We

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had the greatest number of bases that

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the US military were responsible for

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actually peaked in 2008 or early

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2008 . bases . We

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had transitioned the majority of those

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before the start of operation new dawn

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last year . And so at the start of

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September of 2010 , we were down to 92

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and as of last night we're down to 34 ,

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We're on track to go to zero by the end

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of the year . Now explain to me a

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little bit more about some of the

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materials that are being uh that are

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being transferred to the Iraqi

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government are left behind . Are any of

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them tanks or Humvees or anything that

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one would consider a weapon ? No ,

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actually all the military equipment and

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the weapons are being redeployed uh to

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be either reconditioned uh in kuwait

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and for use on word in another area ,

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for example , Afghanistan if they need

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them or redeployment for future

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missions back in the United States over

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the years . We have transferred in the

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past . Some of this equipment To the

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Iraqi government to get the Iraqi

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security forces up and running really

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started in about 2004 To the point

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where they are now . But the 140 M1

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tanks that the Iraqi Army now has .

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They actually bought all of those from

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the United States , the seven uh

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patrol boats that are still due to come

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in for the rest of year . They have now

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five . Those were bought by , the

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majority of those were bought by the

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Iraqi government . They were not

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transferred To the Iraqi government

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from the United States at free of

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charge . And using the what we call the

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foreign military sales program .

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Currently right now , Iraq is paying

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for more than 90% of its military

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equipment and hardware that comes in .

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Okay . And so if we're leaving ,

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I I I understand that we're leaving a

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large number of SUVs behind because

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it's cheaper than shipping them , is

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that correct ? Actually , the majority

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of the SUVs are being transferred to

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the State Department or to the U . S .

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Mission in Iraq . Um As you know , so

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what we really have to do with the SUVs

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uh is we check first and we worked with

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any government agency inside Iraq that

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may have used for this equipment . And

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if so we have a process where we

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maintain accountability and transfer

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the responsibility for maintaining and

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operating the equipment over to another

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government agency , if there is no need

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for the for the U . S . Government to

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use this equipment . We do have the

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option of transferring it to the

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government of Iraq . These are things

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like what we would call unarmored non

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tactical vehicles . The non tactical

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vehicles that are armored are , you

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know , the more expensive ones and

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those that would protect our diplomats

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are all being transferred to the

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government of our the U . S .

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Government agencies in Iraq . I see .

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So this article sounds like it was

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somewhat misleading in terms of the

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stuff that's being left behind . Well ,

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you know , from my perspective , I I

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think that uh I can't address the

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article specifically , but but I think

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that there's this idea that there's

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been a lot of money spent in Iraq . And

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uh and certainly early on in this

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conflict , much of it was was found

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by various agencies , not the least of

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which is Department of Defense or

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Department of State to have been wasted

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and said what we've been doing is

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working very very hard to implement

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controls all along the way so that we

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ensure that we take care of our great

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partners we have in the Department of

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State , we take care of the Iraqi

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security forces and that we take care

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of the US taxpayer , so we don't want

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to abandon equipment or anything like

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that . Now , some some uh some things

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that we have learned along the way , we

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have changed how we do things how we

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approach contracting , for example ,

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there's been a commission stood up on

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the it's called the Commission on

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wartime contracting . That has helped

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us learn a lot and so that we've been

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able to implement controls , ensure

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that everybody is getting actually what

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they pay for , what kind of should not

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implement as a result of the commission .

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Well , for example how we

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control how we provide oversight

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of each contract and ensure that that

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the contracts are specific for exactly

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what we need , what sort of checks and

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balances that we put into place to

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ensure that the person who has who has

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won the contract actually delivers what

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they're supposed to deliver , whether

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it's a service or a product . And then

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uh as well how do we terminate the

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contract if the person is not

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delivering along the way ? You know , I

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think it's it is important that we that

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we take care and we serve as

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responsible stewards for for what the U .

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S . Taxpayer has spent on

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uh the U . S . Involvement in Iraq .

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Clearly there's been a tremendous

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amount of sacrifice and I don't I don't

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want to I don't want to overshadow the

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sacrifice of individuals , those who

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have served here over the years , but

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you know , there are there are ideas

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that we have been spending money on

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things that is frivolous . I know that

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I've seen articles that say , well we

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have we have built up large bases with

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swimming pools actually those bases

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were in the Iraqi security forces

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before we came , we occupy them , they

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had swimming pools on them . And yes

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our troops have been using them , but

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we didn't build swimming pools on these

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basis . You know , I'm not gonna

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apologize for ensuring our soldiers can

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sleep at night when it's 120° outside

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by bringing in air conditioners . Those

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are examples of things that have been

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cited by some people have seen as

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frivolous and these these troops who

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have served here for three or four

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tours , you know , deserve all that we

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can to take care of them At the same

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time . The us taxpayer deserves to

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ensure that their investment is being

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wisely managed and and that's a that's

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a perfect example of you know , we've

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saved more than $600 million dollars in

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not shipping unnecessary things like

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old air conditioners or old trailers

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back to the United States , yep .

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Excellent . Now one last question about

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the if we transition to security

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contractors to protect the embassy for

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instance or to do missions that that um

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soldiers would have done perhaps in the

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past , what is the difference in cost

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to the taxpayer of having a security

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contractor guard the embassy as opposed

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to a U . S . Marine . Well we we are

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going to still have a marine security

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detachment here as part of the embassy

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like we do in every embassy around the

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world and of course they , those

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marines perform a tremendous service

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and we owe them a great amount . But

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even today we have security contractors

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that are manning the outside perimeter

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of the security of both consulates

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general and the and the embassy in

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Baghdad itself . I can't answer your

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question directly about the difference

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in cost , but but we in the military

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right now use security contractors to

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protect the perimeters of our basis .

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And that's so that we can get the best

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possible use of our troops who are out

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there actually still going on missions

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still advising , training , assisting

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and equipping the Iraqi security forces

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conducting missions like clearing

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routes to ensure that our convoys can

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in fact redeploy equipment . So there

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are some things that only the military

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can do and that's what we use the

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military for transitions are I think

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it's also important to understand that

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many of the missions that the military

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has been performing over the years are

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or have transitioned already to the

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embassy . A great example is police

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professionalization that has been a

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military mission since 2003 . And next

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month , the U . S . Mission in Iraq

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under the State Department's Bureau of

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International Narcotics and Law

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Enforcement will take complete

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responsibility for police

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professionalization . So there's still

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a need for it . And if you think about

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it , the experts that we in the

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military have been employing are mostly

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civilians Anyway . The guys who are

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teaching the Iraqis how to work a

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forensics lab . There are civilian

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contractors that have been working for

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us . But now they'll work for the

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Department of State . Great General

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Buchanan , Thank you so much for your

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time today . This is very informative

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and , and we'll try to uh , we'll try

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to put something together soon so that

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we can sort of give people an

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understanding of what's happening . Um ,

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what is the best way for me to uh , to

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reach you directly in the future ?

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Uh , probably the best way is to uh ,

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is to contact either the our commanding

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generals , public Affairs officer ,

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Colonel Barry Johnson , I have a public

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Affairs officer , Captain Jaime Dobson .

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And we will ensure that you have the

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good contact information . And uh , and

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you can feel free to contact me anytime .

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That would be jennifer . Uh , if I

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could just one last thing . Hey look ,

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thanks for thanks to all of the viewers

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out there for their tremendous support

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regardless of their political

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persuasion , regardless of whether they

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agreed with decisions uh , to begin

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operation Iraqi freedom or not , we in

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the military have enjoyed tremendous

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support from every american and we

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really do appreciate it makes a

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tremendous difference in our morale .

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Wonderful . Thank you . Thank you

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sir . We'll talk soon . Okay , thanks

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jennifer . Okay , bye bye .

