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Ladies and gentlemen , thank you very

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much for coming this afternoon . We're

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grateful for your time and we're

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grateful for your spending some time

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with us today . At approximately 9:30

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a.m. Afghan and coalition forces once

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again defeated an attempt an attempt by

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the insurgents to push back the

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progress of the Afghan people and their

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security forces and the government and

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the progress that they're making in

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Afghanistan . The attacks beginning

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yesterday afternoon were designed to

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derail transition , whereby the Afghan

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security forces will assume

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responsibility for security of the

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Afghan people during the next several

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years . Countrywide , By the end of

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2014 , the insurgent attack did not

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succeed . It failed . Uh this attack

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had no operational impact whatsoever ,

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resulting only in the brutal and savage

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taking of innocent Afghanistan Afghan

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life now throughout the indiscriminate

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insurgent RPG and small arms attack . I

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once again , I was impressed by the

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courage and the ability and the

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fighting spirit of the Afghan forces .

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They responded quickly and capably

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containing the insurgents and

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systematically eliminating the threat .

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Our reports indicate seven insurgents

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were killed in the clearing operations

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and for insurgents served as suicide

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bombers . Further reports indicate that

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five Afghan national police and 11

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Afghan civilians were killed . More

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than half of them Children . Another 19

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Afghan civilians were wounded . A small

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number of coalition forces were injured

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in the attack , but at this time no

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ISAF personnel have died as a result of

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the attack . We honour those brave men

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and all of the innocent afghans who

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lost their lives in the cause of Afghan

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peace and security and we express our

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sincere condolences to their families

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for their tragic losses . We will

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continue working with our afghan

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partners towards transitioning security

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responsibility throughout the country .

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They have demonstrated their

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determination and ability to respond to

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insurgent attacks and to mitigate the

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impact of these vicious acts . This is

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not the first such attack by the

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insurgents and we do not expect that it

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will be the last the insurgents are on

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the defensive . They're losing

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territory , they're losing support ,

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they're losing the confidence in their

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leaders who choose to give orders from

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the comfort of foreign lands to

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compensate the insurgents seek to

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frighten the afghan people into

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submission through spectacular or high

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profile attacks . It's not working and

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it will not work . The insurgents will

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not win . They will lose . We will

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prevail . I'd like to introduce my

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colleague here NATO and the ISIS

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headquarters , Ambassador Simon Gass ,

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a senior civilian representative . So

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well , thank you . Uh let me begin by

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joining General Allen in his

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condemnation of yesterday's attack and

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in offering my condolences to all of

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the Afghan citizens who lost their

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lives and their families and their

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loved ones . Yesterday's attack was a

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serious incident and that is shown by

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the number of afghan citizens who were

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killed , including a number of Children

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and of course attacks like these are

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designed to cause fear and

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uncertainty , but we need to put

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yesterday's events into perspective

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this attack was a fleeting event . It

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came and it went , it disrupted

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life in parts of Kabul for a number of

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hours but afghans are resilient people .

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The city is quickly returning to normal

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people are going about their business .

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The government , the government is

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getting on with the job of governing

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the country . The real effect of these

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attacks is to remind Afghan citizens

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why they are so determined to continue

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to fight an insurgency which

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deliberately kills innocent afghan men ,

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women and Children . As general Allen

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has said , the Afghan national Security

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forces responded quickly and

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effectively mhm . That illustrates why

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we have confidence in the transition

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process which will transfer the

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security lead to those afghan security

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forces . We are doing transition

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because we can not because we must

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Afghanistan is a little like a boxer .

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It's going to take some blows along the

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way , but it will keep coming forward

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and it will prevail over its enemy and

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the international community will stay

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in Afghanistan's corner , Not only up

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to 2014 , but afterwards as well ,

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we are Afghanistan's partners for the

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long term at the bonN conference in

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december . The international community

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will renew its commitment to stick with

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Afghanistan after transition is over .

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Thank you and I think now we are ready

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to take questions Yes sir , please .

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Yeah , you say that the

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insurgents who were on the defensive

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many afghan , many couples , not

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laughable after what we had to endure

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over the past 20 hours . You step away

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from your military for a moment ,

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explain to us how however the afghan

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population is expected to deal with

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this . This came to the town . Well , I

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think the afghan population can be

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confident in its security forces which

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responded very quickly and effectively ,

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I would tell you that the target which

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ultimately was reduced by the high end

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afghan police units that responded was

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a very difficult target . Actually , it

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was an unfinished building high rise .

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It was cleared largely at night under

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very adverse weather conditions ,

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cleared very deliberately , very

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methodically . The reason being to

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control the amount of fire that was

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being used so as not to endanger

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innocent afghan civilians or property .

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So they can take a lot of have a lot of

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confidence that in the response , the

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afghan units that did respond

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demonstrated a significant capability

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to reduce that target and to eliminate

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the threat . The afghan citizens should

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also know that they can sleep well at

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night . Now , as the ambassador said ,

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this was a complex attack and these

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will happen in Afghanistan . These will

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happen because the enemy seeks to

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terrorize the people and cal the

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population . But what the population

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needs to understand is that for the

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last 30 days , for example , and before

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that as well , Afghan units in

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partnership with coalition forces have

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been going after the enemy networks

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because we have known about these

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threat streams and have been going

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after these networks systematically

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throughout the month of Ramadan . Uh

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indeed , and we knew that the enemy

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intended to attack the population to

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attack Kabul during that period of time ,

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They still managed to get in and they

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only have to be right once . We have to

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be right every single time . And we

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were right an awful lot during those

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last 30 days in the numbers of

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potential Attackers whose plots were

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foiled , suicide attacks were disrupted

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and enemy networks that might have

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provided attacks or opportunity or

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support for others were unsuccessful .

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So the Afghan people should not only be

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proud of how their their units

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performed in reducing this threat .

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They should also be proud that their

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forces were active in disrupting the

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enemy threat networks as well . You see ,

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yes , ma'am ,

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good to meet you . I research

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fingers are big point where which

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price see

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the building under construction .

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Okay , wondering

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what do you think ? Chief ? Yes .

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Mr and Mhm . Bring

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what was once a rule search .

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Yeah , 2nd attack and called ,

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see , well , I think you had two

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questions . One was , is this the

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Haqqanis and the other is the Pakistani

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safe havens . Um We

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believe by virtue of the complexity of

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this attack and the way it was executed ,

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that this probably was Connie

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instigated attack . Uh

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The Haqqanis have been attacking Kabul

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for a long time because Kabul for so

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much of this country represents , not

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just the spiritual Heartland of this

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country , it represents the future and

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the colonies have been attacking the

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government of Afghanistan . They've

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been attacking the institutions of

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Afghanistan , they've been attacking

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the people of Afghanistan . And many of

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the attacks , the high profile attacks

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that have been inflicted upon Kabul in

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the last year or so have been

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perpetrated by the Haqqani network .

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With respect to the safe havens . We

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talked to the pakistanis all the time .

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We desire to partner with them to

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control insurgent infiltration across

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the border on some occasions it works .

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But in particular , we seek to have the

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Pakistani government placed greater

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pressure on the Haqqani network to keep

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them on the east side of the border to

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keep them in Pakistan so that we can

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prevent these kinds of attacks . High

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profile attacks that target so many of

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the Afghan civilians . Well over 200

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have been killed by the Haqqani network

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in this in this city alone . And so

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we'll continue to talk at a national

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level with the Pakistani government

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will continue to ask at a policy level

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for them to restrain the Haqqani

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network , But if the Honey network gets

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across the border , we'll deal with

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them as we find them and we deal with

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them as we find them frequently . Uh

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not just in the Kabul , not just around

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Kabul , but in other places of Afghan

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Afghanistan as well . And I'll defer to

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my ambassador and colleague if you have

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anything you'd like to offer . Well ,

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I'd simply like to add that there is of

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course , an intensive diplomatic

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dialogue with Pakistan on this subject .

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Of course , the government of

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Afghanistan is involved in talks with

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its neighbor . There are trilateral

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talks and a number of other key players

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are talking to Pakistan and trying to

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make the case for greater Pakistani

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action to diminish attacks

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from the safe havens in Pakistan . Of

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course we shouldn't forget also that

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Pakistan itself has an extremely

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dangerous and difficult insurgency to

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deal with on its side of the border .

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The case we make is that that should

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strengthen Pakistan's wish to ensure

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that that does not spill over into

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Afghanistan as well . Thank you . Yes ,

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ma'am . I've never

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had a voice . Yes , we've been told

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by yes , people in

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Peter this is also that was the ground

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has conceived okay . And you

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mentioned basically it's succeed . But

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a lot of people that see projecting our

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own idea of success military gold

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on them . Whereas in fact , if you look

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at what's happening Yeah , back in

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Kabul and headlines around the world

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dominated by oh , siege .

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That speech afghans that should

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the rocket planted . Uh I was bought by

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the Taliban Houston example of massive

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publicity . They made a lot of his

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heart will feel that they're not safe

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in their homes . So I just wanna

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difficult responsible . Yeah , Well ,

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I'll offer the ambassador of the

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opportunity as well . It's how you

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measure success . And let's just put

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the attack aside for a moment and

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measure success by so many of the

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things that are going right in

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Afghanistan today , We just celebrated

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or acknowledge the 10th anniversary of

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the anniversary of the attack on the

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United States . The day before that

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attack . Uh There were no female

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Children in any school in Afghanistan .

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There has been so much progress in that

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area . Just alone , there has been

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progress in governance , there's been

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progress and economic opportunity ,

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there's been progress in power , there

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has been progress throughout the

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country . If you measure it purely in

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military terms and let me finish what

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I'm gonna say if you measure it purely

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a military terms of the growth of the

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NSF , what they do every single day

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throughout Afghanistan to provide

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security to the population to keep the

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insurgents out of the population . That

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have given large numbers of afghans in

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the south . Large numbers of afghans in

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the north and in the west . An

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opportunity for a relatively stable

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life that is real progress and their

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military has come a very very long way

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in just two years now , the enemy's

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desire is to get inside the population

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periodically because they don't have

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the capacity to challenge the A . N . S .

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F . Across the entire country and in a

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high profile attack to terrorize the

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population and I'll grant that they did

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get an I . O . Win on this . But the

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reality is these are few and infrequent

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attacks . By and large , the A . N . S .

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F . In partnership with the coalition

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and increasingly on their own

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unilaterally the A . N . S . F . Is

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achieving a significant capability to

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deal with the insurgency . And as I

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mentioned a moment ago in the period of

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time leading up to this attack , there

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was significant and sf activity

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operating against these networks ,

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operating against these threats streams

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and they reduce them in significant

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amounts . The afghans won't know that

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because those attacks never occurred .

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But there were real threat streams and

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real potential attacks that were

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blunted and were disrupted by the

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activities both unilaterally of afghan

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high end units and afghan units that

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were in partnership with their ISAF

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partners , Mr Ambassador , Anything

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you'd like to add ? Well as I said in

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my opening remarks of course these

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attacks are designed to cause fear and

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to cause loss of confidence and of

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course it was an extremely frightening

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event for the citizens of Kabul who

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were involved in it . But let's ask

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ourselves , what is the effect which it

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has on their opinion . Does this make

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them feel that we should be fighting

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less hard against an enemy which is

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willing to target men , women and

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Children ? Or does it cause them to

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have greater resolve to ensure that the

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country returns to stability without

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the insurgents returning to power ? I'm

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confident that it's the latter . Now of

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course we understand of course we

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understand that this is not a purely

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military campaign as long as there are

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safe havens to which the insurgents can

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return , they cannot be completely

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defeated in a military sense , all

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insurgencies end with a political

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process and that is why so many people

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are working to investigate the

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possibilities of a peace process which

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must be led of course by the government

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of Afghanistan . Now in the end , the

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only people who can decide whether to

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join that peace process are the

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insurgents themselves . But we

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certainly hope that a political process

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which respects the red lines which the

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government of Afghanistan has laid down

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can go ahead at some point in the

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future and therefore lead to a more

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definitive end to this conflict , which

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has taken the lives of so many Afghan

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citizens . Fine .

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Yes , sir . Just

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No . Yes ,

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sir . Yes .

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Yes , point out this is this is it for

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a living ,

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just conciliation , some

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Yes . Mhm .

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Because there is no military Yes ,

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Yes , they are designed to join .

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Mhm . Okay , well , I

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think two things firstly , as you know ,

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in insurgencies of this type , it is

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not unusual to see a surge of violence

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just at the time when people start

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thinking about returning or coming to

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the negotiating table because groups

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tend to try to maximize their leverage

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in those negotiations . That is not to

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predict that we are on the verge of an

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early and substantial negotiation , but

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it would not be inconsistent with that ,

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in my view . The second point I'd like

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to make is that I think if and when uh

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huh negotiations of that sort do take

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place , we will see quite a change in

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the position of some insurgent groups

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as they see that a train is beginning

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to leave the station and they will have

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the choice of either jumping on it or

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being left behind . As I said earlier ,

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this is a decision which only the

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insurgents themselves can make . The

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government of Afghanistan has made

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clear its readiness to talk as long as

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certain basic conditions are respected .

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And I would add that the uh the Taliban

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movement is not monolithic , as you

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point out , there is the Taliban ,

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there is the Haqqanis , there are other

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elements within the Taliban . And while

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the Haqqanis may or may not desire to

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to engage in peace conversations or

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peace talks , there are others that

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probably are . The other end of the

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spectrum of reconciliation is something

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called reintegration and reintegration

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is occurring all over Afghanistan .

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Some of it is formal , some of the some

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of it is informal , but there are

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several 1000 um Taliban fighters who

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have reintegrated again about 2400 or

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so uh formally uh many others that are

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either in the process or who have

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reintegrated informally uh that

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contributes to the peace process as

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well . And when you have enough of the

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fighters who seem to be engaged and

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interested in returning to their

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society , rejoining their communities ,

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ultimately contributing to the long

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term progress of Afghanistan that will

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in fact have an effect upon the senior

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leadership as well and perhaps can

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induce them to look at a reconciliation

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or to have discussions with the Afghan

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government . And I believe we had a

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question over here . Yes , sir .

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So there's so

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much room . What

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America Dennis ,

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you have you never called this ?

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Uh huh . What ?

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But with Yeah .

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Yeah . Yeah . Well ,

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police martin and co director ,

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he said , body the feminine there's

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media market continue . Yes .

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Was explain to them and

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to harm argument story . That's why

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success . Sorry . Yes .

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The A . N . S . F . Has many different

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components . The N . A .

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Has been working very hard around the

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Afghan National Army has been working

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very hard around the outside of Kabul

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has effectively disrupted a number of

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the insurgent networks in particular ,

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some of the Haqqani elements that have

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sought to penetrate the defenses

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of Kabul to penetrate the security

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measures of Kabul inside Kabul . While

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there are some Afghan National Army

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elements , there are Afghan National

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Police , several different types .

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Those elements cooperated as well with

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the DNA and with the coalition In

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addressing the threat stream and

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addressing the threats that have

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emerged over the last 30-45 days . As I

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mentioned that there was a real intent

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by the insurgent elements in particular ,

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the Haqqani network to launch attacks

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inside the city once again , I'll tell

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you that there were a number of these

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attacks that were detected disrupted

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and halted as a direct result of Afghan

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national Security forces working either

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unilaterally on their own , developing

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the intelligence and conducting the

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operation by themselves or doing it in

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partnership with the ISaf forces . This

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attack did occur . The attack was

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quickly isolated in an unfinished

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building where the units that

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responded were highly trained ,

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capable Afghan police units ,

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special weapons and tactics units , you

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will hear them sometimes be called That

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did take a long time to clear that

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building . Any high rise building of

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multiple floors like that is going to

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take quite a while to clear it . They

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ultimately cleared in darkness . They

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have their well equipped with both

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night vision capabilities and also well

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equipped with command and control but

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they cleared it floor by floor , they

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cleared it deliberately . They cleared

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it methodic methodically when they

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applied fires , they applied fires only

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as was necessary to reduce the threat .

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And yes , it took a long time climbing

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16 stories in the dark under both fire

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and heavy weather conditions . Rain is

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difficult for any high end Tier one

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Unit and these Afghan units did it .

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They did it well , some of the members

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were wounded and our condolences go out

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to them and of course to their families .

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But in the end , uh huh . If an Afghan

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citizen had the chance to see in action

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these great high end units that have

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been developed over the last several

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years and are continuing to become more

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professional by the day . I think they

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would be proud of them . This attack

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was a high profile attack . We regret

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that it occurred , but we will continue

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to pressure the enemy's networks in

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partnership with our Afghan partners ,

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with the idea of preventing these in

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the future . But as I said before ,

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they have occurred in the past , one

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occurred yesterday , and we should

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expect that the enemy is going to

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continue to try to get inside this city

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and attack the institutions of

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government and the innocent civilians

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of Afghanistan because that is what

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they do Mr best or anything else .

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Okay , ladies and gentlemen , thank you

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very much for your time this afternoon .

