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good . Tell me what you're doing in

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Iraq who you're with and what you're up

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to . Well , the Secretary of Defense

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arranged for an airplane to take us

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over here . Uh we spent the last

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probably 30 hours in uh in Iraq

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visiting various cities , Baghdad

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visited . Probably the highlight was

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visiting the Texas National Guard in

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Tikrit , uh the hometown of Saddam

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Hussein , also the town where he was

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captured . And when I'm taking away

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from this trip , it's really the

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positive , optimistic attitude of the

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troops . Uh they believe what they're

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doing is the right thing to do and they

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deserve our support . And one other

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thing I'd like to mention that I found

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him um very reassuring . It was

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when we were driving flying in Black

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Hawk helicopters between Baghdad and to

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treat we found him . So I've got many

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villagers out there with Children uh

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and adults and they're all plotting uh

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and waving at us with hospitality .

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This is not the what you guess would

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expect and some 100 in the paper . But

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again , I found it for them to be

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greeting us with that kind of

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hospitality as we're flying in a

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Blackhawk helicopter . I thought that

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was a great thing . Who are you there

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with jim marshall uh

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from Georgia and Cathy McMorris from

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Washington State . We have a member

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from the Majority Leader's office with

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us as well and several staff members .

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But this is a Start to finish military

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code L we've been on over the last 30

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hours . I haven't really slept And

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we've been on the C130s . Find the

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Baghdad and Black Hawk helicopters . Uh

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And we talked to a lot of the generals

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in Baghdad Saddam Hussein's Palace

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where they're currently located about

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this struggle . one thing I took away

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from that is that ultimately this

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conflict will be decided on whether

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they can form their own government ,

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Shia and Sunni and and really go

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forward in a constructive way and if

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they can do that , I think will prevail .

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But ultimately this is up to the Iraqi

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people and I think they need to stand

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up to these insurgents and say enough .

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And when you say stand up to the

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insurgents , you're talking about just

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the average joe on the street . Or are

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you talking about the policeman that

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we've been training and who are not yet

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combat ready ? Well , you know ,

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another great demonstration I got to

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see . It was the actual a demonstration

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by the Iraqi security police force

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which is modeled after our FBI hostage

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rescue team . And it was very

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impressive . Uh They , you know , shot

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at targets and they're very uh well

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equipped . I think they're standing up .

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They have about 300,000 members trained

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now . They have 30,000 people on the

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border . Uh so this is all I think

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we're encouraging news because as their

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numbers rise , our numbers can come

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down . But an example of what you're

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talking about is when I was in to treat

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the uh the forces there , the texas

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National Guard , many of whom were from

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the Houston area , by the way . It was

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good to see him . But they told me that

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they have received a lot of human

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intelligence from the local neighbors

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who are fed up with these outside

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insurgents coming into their area . And

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so what they're doing is they're

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communicating with our military about

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where these people are uh which led to

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this operation uh swarming which was

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conducted about three weeks ago , which

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is a very successful operation . I'd

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like to see more of that in the future .

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And I think given the fact we didn't

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have a lot of good human intelligence

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before the war , uh I can tell you on

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the ground now it looks like we've uh

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dramatically improved the situation .

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Well , there continues to be sectarian

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violence . You had mentioned that you

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were impressed by what you saw the

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local troops uh seem to be improving .

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When do you think will be at a point

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where they can start taking over some

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of the policing and we can start

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bringing the U . S . Troops home ? Well ,

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I think I think the er er of course the

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day before we arrived , the Shiite

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mosque was bombed , suicide bomber , 79

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people dead . But I think it's

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important that they integrate these

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forces . Both Sunni and Shia . Uh the

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more they can do that and the more the

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government is Sunni and Shia uh then it

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will symbolize unity and stop these

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warring factions , the sectarian

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factions that we see today . But until

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that happens , it this is going to be a

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struggle . Uh this is not going to go

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away overnight . And I think the

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american people need to be prepared for

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that . That is gonna be a long term

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struggle . But I have seen dramatic

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improvement . I wanted to see it

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firsthand myself to see how we're doing .

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And I have to say I was I felt

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reassured by this this visit . And if

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you had to come away with like one

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point that really struck you your

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observation , what would that be ? Well ,

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of course , the arrogance of Saddam

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Hussein's empire with these palaces was

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unbelievable . The amount of money he

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put into idolatry of himself .

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It's amazing . But I think the thing

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that the warmest thing I walked away

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with seeing these Children and

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adults waving at us as we're

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flying over in the helicopters , just

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shepherds , villagers , little Children

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looking up to us . We're flying over

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the treetops so we can see him very

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well , smiling and waving to us .

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They're glad we're there , they're very

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happy that we're there . We're glad we

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got rid of this dictator . What are you

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going to do with your observations ? Um

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Once you get back to Washington . Well ,

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what I want to make sure that

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the probably talk to the Secretary of

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Defense after this trip and make sure

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that we're doing a lot of the things

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I've outlined with Respect to the

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integration of the government uh of the

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security forces . I think that's all

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very important . And I also think the

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$80 billion dollars we appropriate

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recently needs to go into rebuilding

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the infrastructure in Iraq to get the

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economy going because without jobs

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you're going to have a training ground

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for for terrorism . So I think that's

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very important . But you know , in

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addition they have a great natural

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resource that they have yet to tap into .

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That . We were told was going to pay

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for a lot of this . And I have walked

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away with some ideas on that as well .

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And what are some of those ideas ?

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Because uh billions of dollars that

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were earmarked for rebuilding Iraq have

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been diverted to fighting the

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insurgency . So where's that money

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going to come from ? To rebuild Iraq ?

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I think the dividends would pay

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astronomically if we could get the

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infrastructure in place to to refine

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the natural resources , the energy

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resource that they have , which would

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again pay off dividends if we could

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just get that up and running , you've

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got a lot of corruption in Iraq with

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regard to that . But you just don't

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have the adequate infrastructure to uh

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to get that out of the ground . And

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again , they could make an enormous

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amount of money off that they would pay

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for a lot of a lot of these operations .

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All right . When are you coming home ?

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Well , I think I'm gonna get some sleep

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and then we're going to fly to Germany

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and visit one of the hospitals there uh

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and visit the wounded . Um And then we

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fly back tomorrow night . All right .

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Anything else you'd like to add ? Yeah ,

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That's just great to see all my all

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those Texans in Iraq . They're doing

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great and they're looking forward to

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coming home . And uh many of them were

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in the Houston area . Yeah . Do you

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have any numbers on the number of texas

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national guards that are there ? Or

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texas troops ? I don't I don't but I

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visited was probably about 200 .

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Yeah , but I can certainly get that

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number two . Yeah . That's alright . I

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can find it too . All right . Listen ,

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thank you so much . I appreciate I

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appreciate your time with us today .

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That's great start . All right . Thank

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you . Congress . Okay . Bye . Bye .

